Iran Vows to Hit Back at Any Country That Stages an Attack
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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran will target any country where an attack against it is staged, a senior Guard commander warned Sunday, the latest Iranian threat tied to growing tensions over its nuclear program and Western sanctions.
Gen. Hossein Salami, deputy commander of the elite Revolutionary Guard, Iran’s most powerful military force, did not elaborate. His comments appeared to be a warning to Iran’s neighbors not to let their territory or airspace be used as a base for an attack.
“Any place where enemy offensive operations against the Islamic Republic of Iran originate will be the target of a reciprocal attack by the Guard’s fighting units,” the semiofficial Fars news agency quoted Salami as saying.
The Revolutionary Guard started maneuvers in the country’s south on Saturday, following naval exercises near the Strait of Hormuz, a vital oil export route, additional muscle flexing by Iran to ward off the prospect of a military strike against its nuclear facilities. Iran has threatened to close off the strait if Western sanctions limit Iranian oil exports.
The U.S. and its Western allies charge Iran is producing atomic weapons. Iran says its program is meant to produce fuel for future nuclear power reactors and medical radioisotopes needed for cancer patients.
Israel and the U.S. have said that all options remain open, including military action, if Iran continues with its uranium enrichment program. U.S. officials have indicated they are concerned that Israel might launch a strike in the spring.
Israel considers Iran an existential threat because of its nuclear and missile programs and repeated references by Iranian leaders to Israel’s destruction. On Friday, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called Israel a “cancer” that must be removed.
Iran has been enriching uranium to less than 5 percent for years, but it began to further enrich part of its uranium stockpile to nearly 20 percent a year ago, saying it needs the higher grade material to produce fuel for a Tehran reactor that makes medical radioisotopes. Weapons-grade uranium is usually about 90 percent enriched.
Iran says the higher enrichment activities – to nearly 20 percent – will be carried out at Fordo, built underground to protect it from airstrikes. These operations are of particular concern to the West because uranium at 20 percent enrichment can be converted much more quickly for use in a nuclear warhead than uranium enriched to only 3.5 percent.
A high-level inspection team from the International Atomic Energy Agency was in Iran last week but did not visit its nuclear facilities. In November, the U.N. watchdog agency issued a report drawing on 1,000 pages of intelligence. It stated then for the first time that some of the alleged experiments can have no other purpose than developing nuclear weapons.
“The information indicates that Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device,” the report stated.
Iran denounced the IAEA report, saying the agency has discredited itself by siding with “absurd” U.S. accusations. Tehran said the allegations were based on “fabricated documents.”
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red_white_blue2
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:42pmIt’s time to wipe them off the map before they wipe Israel and then us off the map. While we deal with that at the same time we need to start drilling in the USA anywhere we have oil. I don’t give a damn about the environmentalists. We need to be self sufficient ASAP. I think we should be respectful of animals and nature, but there as to be a balance. The left doesn’t get that.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:26pmIran cant lob a watermelon over a fence with the rockets they have. Remember the Iraqi Republican Guard? Remember how they said they were going to run us into the sea? Remember how tough they talked? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa…a bunch of panty waisted sissies! they ran like little girls!
You can be afraid of Iran. It’s all talk and no do. But the warmongering Neocons have you convinced that they are going to kill us all. Bullcrap! You are afraid of the boogeyman, I promise Israel can and will wipe them off the map witout our help. and they will when the time comes.
You are a fool to believe Iran can do anything to us from Iran. You should be worried about the Mosque that is being built down your street instead! You should be worried about thwm getting into your Government! But you think that they are going to do something from there? You are an utter fool if you do!
Wake up America!
Report Post »Dont be a stupid sheeple scared by a warmongering Neocon!
Armed Patriot
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:09pmBaddoggy… “Iran cant lob a watermelon over a fence with the rockets they have. You are a fool to believe Iran can do anything to us from Iran. But you think that they are going to do something from there? You are an utter fool if you do!
My friend, last week Iran put a satellite into space. That launch vehicle is called an ICBM. Iran has missiles that can be launched from tankers, and cargo ships just outside our waters that could be used to explode EMP weapons over the US, a stated goal of theirs. They were training for this within the last few weeks. You are seriously naive l if you think Iran is not the most serious threat on the planet at this point in time. WWIII could be started within days, weeks, or months. Just laying mines and a small skirmish in the Gulf would send oil prices through the roof. What would happen to our current depression, with the real unemployment over 10% and the U6 over 15%, if gasoline and diesel shot up to $10.00 a gallon over night? Iran could do serious damage to us… from Iran.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:13pmBaddoggy, you are thinking in terms of ICBMs. Yes, their missiles suck.
Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
They don’t need ICBMs to attack US. With the gaping holes on the southern border, utilizing services and routes of Zetas, they can smuggle in an elephant without anyone noticing. Break down the components of a few crude nukes, smuggle through, reassemble, detonate. No ICBMs necessary. Advantages: a) plausible deniability, time required to analyze the signature to determine origin; b) taking the battlefield inside an enemy camp.
It’s in our best interest (not only in Israel’s) for Iran not to have nuclear capability.
That is not to say that US and Israel can’t use also “all stratagems of war”. There has been a series of setbacks to Iran’s nuke program. As long as that worked, it bought some time. But that can’t be staved off indefinitely, at some point they’ll get what they want.
It’s not warmongering. It’s a prudent rational assessment of the threat.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:27pm“last week Iran put a satellite into space.”
They did launch a satellite, a small payload. Whether it reached its destination and planned orbit, I don’t know. But if it didn’t, they’ll try again. Trial and error.
India is launching satellites into space regularly. India has even nukes. But no one deems India threat (except Pakistan, feeling is mutual in India) because of it. The don’t make constant pronouncements about anyone “vanishing from pages of time”, nor they chant “death to [favorite enemy]‘.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:36pmIran launches third satellite into space…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/iran-reports-launching-small-satellite-into-orbit-latest-in-its-ambitious-space-program/2012/02/03/gIQANIMAmQ_story.html
Is Iran a threat to the United States?
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/02/02/is-iran-a-threat-to-the-united-states/
Iran’s Nuclear Program is Complete, Its Missiles Can Reach US
Report Post »http://focusonjerusalem.com/newsroom.html
tharpdevenport
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 6:57pmGood points, Armed Patriot.
We should also note IRan is not alone. Other countries are aligning or have aligned themselves with Iran, including more powerful ones. Russia may or may not support Iran in war efforts (hey, WWII all over again), they have after all helped them with one nuclear scientist, provided assistance in contruction of the nuclear works, given jets to Syria twice, threatened the U.S. almost half a dozen times now since the Dictator-in-cheif became Preisdent, and they have been preparing for their currency to take over as the world currency when the dollar fails (how they think they’ll beat other currencies, I don’t know). And of course China is building up millitary forces our millitary recently reported is too large for general defense — they are amassing, as Germany did for ten years leading up to WWII. Just a few months ago, maybe over half a year, they announced a special weapon that was designed, they said, for the newer haul plating on our war ships. Oddly specific, no?
The world is shaping up again like it did leading up to WWII. ONly we have no Patton, no Churchill, an enemy that won’t back down even if struck with a nuclear bomb, and we‘re overrun with Neville Chamberlain’s. And we got a supra foreign national, Marxist quasi dictator in the White House.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 8:19pmI’m not scared.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 9:06pmjustangry… “I’m not scared.”
You should be. Armageddon is at hand.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 10:19pm“Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”
What I am scared of is that the paranoia of my fellow countrymen will lead to the enslavment of my daughter.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 10:53pmThese Chrisians and Jews are blood thirsty.. They just can’t seem to get enough blood. Maybe before long Russia and China will weigh in and we’ll then see how blood thirsty these thugs really are when there is someone there to fight back.
Report Post »waspanglosaxon
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 10:55pmLet’s hope and pray that Iran does indeed wipe Israel off of the map – then ZOG will at last be freed from Zionist control. The Arab world would no longer have to worry about their scientists being assassinated, the Palestinians would get their stolen country back and we Americans would get our own country back as well. It’s truly a win-win-win situation!
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:28amJust angry and Wasp … Maybe you should read what these peace lovers are saying.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ayatollah-kill-all-jews-annihilate-israel/
If this even comes close to happening, the entire middle east will be destroyed and the Apocalypse will have begun. It is on the verge of beginning now and your hatred of the Jew and your ignorance of the true goals of Iran (12th Imam) do not change a thing or make you safer. Just ignorant.
Report Post »Paulbot
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:50amAmericas Middle Eastern Policy:
Report Post »We have nuclear weapons but you are not allowed too. Pakistan is, China is, Russia is, North Korea is….but you are not. If you do produce them without our consent we will have to bomb your country, and invade it. If you attack us back after we attack you we will be really, really upset, and have to attack you more. After we have temporarily beaten you we will leave and let you get back to making nuclear weapons. And now you will be even more determined to make weapons to kill our civilians.
Problem solved!
justangry
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:31amWhoa there, Boss. I don‘t hate anyone who hasn’t harmed me personally nor do I agree with the statement made by Wasp. Don’t even go there.
Report Post »PatriotNAmerica
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:42amwaspanglosaxon
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 10:55pm
Let’s hope and pray that Iran does indeed wipe Israel off of the map – then ZOG will at last be freed from Zionist control. The Arab world would no longer have to worry about their scientists being assassinated, the Palestinians would get their stolen country back and we Americans would get our own country back as well. It’s truly a win-win-win situation!
I believe that you are mistaken wasp. Most of your liberal/Marxist Jews already prefer NYC as their world capitol as opposed to Jerusalem so let’s pray that Israel stands and that all the Jews will make their way home.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:08am@Armed Patriot And like any sovereign nation they would have the right to use those weapons if anyone attacked them. What reference point to you use that Iran should not have the right to defend itself from any attack. The Russians, the North Koreans, etc. made statements that were equally if not more inflammatory, Russia invaded Afghanistan, N. Korea fired on a S. Korean ship. Apply whatever rational you want, just apply it equally. Iran does not have warships 20 miles off our coast.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:21amYou can bet that any ‘attack’ by the U.S. would be very tactical. It wouldn’t be serious enough or decisive enough to do anything more than make them angry. And commit us to another 10 years of pretending to fight a war only those invested in the military industrial complex want to see continue. Senators, congressmen, lobbyists, contractors, career government types.
Israel, on the other hand, I would expect Israel to make a real mess the first time through, disabling infrastructure and command and control and in general helping people see who controls the lights and heat.
Report Post »LIBS-ARE-DINGLEHEADS
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:32pmI have Persian friends – from Iran.
YO! Blaze war mongers! Get your facts straight, and not from the LAME STREAM MEDIA! THAT INCLUDES FOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX News.
They listened to the speech with me. “Baloney! He did not say that!”, they said
Translating it, as we taped it and went over it – what he said was that “the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time.”
BIIIIG difference.
So STOP THIS PANDERING TO WAR.
Some of you Conservatives are dingleheads too!
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:41pmAnd I have Persian friends right in my neighborhood. The exact translation is: “The Zionist entity will vanish from the page of time.” Upon further discussion, they explained that the translation is inexact as it uses Farsi idioms and that yes, it can be conceived of a a threat to wipe out Israel, especially when that above mentioned expression is followed by chants “Death to Israel” — there can’t be any doubt about the meaning.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:15pmYou’re absolutely right!! How silly of me!! It must have be the “Death to Israel!” chants that followed immediately that threw me off. MY BAD! (sarc/off)
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:03pmThe Iranians will not ever nuke Israel. They want to preserve the land of Jerusalem. What they want is regime change. Like what happened to Libya and Egypt. Granted, the Iranians want the State of Israel gone, but that is, the political state, not geographical. They want to do what we did to Iraq, and get their former leaders out, and institute a new Government. The most they’ll ever do to accomplish this is, what the Bible says they’ll do, which is gather all nations against Jerusalem. Of course, God will intervene and defend Israel himself.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 6:02pmcolt1860, they give a rat’s patoot about Jerusalem. If they did what you suggest and succeeded, it would became the same backwater that it was during Ottoman rule.What irks them that there are these uppity Jews and they rule over land that was once conquered by Islam. They like Jews either dead, or as dhimmis.
Report Post »READRIGHTHERE
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 6:19pm@ colt
Not so fast. They don’t care about Palestine. (Before Israel Palestinians were the red headed step child of the middle east.) They just care that Israel be removed, any Palestinians lost will be called Martyrs. Cleansing with fire is a very religious concept and no doubt easily translatable into nuclear fire. Iran has a religious conviction to be intolerant of Israel and any of its friends (read US.) and they have a certain belief that Allah will be at their side in defeating our Goliath. Japan felt their Emporer was infallible and invincible and because they had such “faith” it took a second Atomic Bomb blast to jar their collective will towards surrender. Iran will be no different, but our “Nuclear” approach could be. Let us define Iran as our Enemy (easily defensable as nearly every incendiary device that has taken out a US soldier can be traced back to Iran, not to mention thier inscrupulous support of the insurgency) Then we cut off money and supplies into Iran and anyone that supports them. Let them fend for themselves without any of our capital. They will be brought to their knees. Iranians will see the forest for the trees and the regime will be removed from within. The same goes for Egypt or any other piddle fart little insignificant country that has somehow arrived at the mistaken understanding that we need them and therefore they have the upper hand. It will take awhile, but after a few years the crumbling will be unstoppable.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:34amcolt1860… “The Iranians will not ever nuke Israel. They want to preserve the land of Jerusalem. What they want is regime change.”
Sorry my friend, they do not want regime change. They want to usher in Armageddon the 12th Imam.
Report Post »david3755
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:10pmIt may be hard to hit back when you are on fire and glowing in the dark.
Report Post »randy
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:53pmI say we get about a dozen C-130′s and drop some jack in the box bacon milkshakes on them :)
Report Post »SEPARATENOW
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:14pm@DAVID
Pretty much exactly what I think every time these blowhards and braggarts open their mouths. Anyone remember, “the streets will run with your blood”, from Saddam Hussein in Gulf War 1? These people may live at the site of the cradle of civilization, but they’ve just crapped in it.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:47pmAll the more reason to turn Iran into a Parking lot!
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:55pmAre you serious!? Because Iran says it will defend itself from an attack you say gives cause to turn it into a parking lot? What kind of ignorant, hypocritical, war mongering pathetic fool are you!? Did we not do the same when it came to September 11th? Iran hasn’t attacked anyone, yet are daily threatened by the U.S. and Israel. I‘m not saying Iran hasn’t said some things that could be considered threatening, but then so has Israel and the U.S. have said equally threatening things to Iran. If Iran used Cuba to launch an attack against us, would we not hold Cuba accountable? If we use Iraq to launch an attack on Iran, Iran would be justified in holding Iraq accountable.
Report Post »burke
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:05pmHave you forgot that Iran has said that they will wipe Israel & us off of the face of the earth, Stupid.
robert
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:18pm“World Iran Vows to Hit Back at Any Country That Stages an Attack”
The corrupt demagogues are staging a false flag attack in order to take us to war. Look at the armada of ships in the Persian Gulf by those Washington crooks. They’re going to take us to war AGAIN! As if Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t cause the deaths of enough of our soldiers.
The fat politicians don‘t mind starting wars if they don’t have to fight and die in them and they, instead, send our soldiers to die in their place.
How many on here are falling for their ruse?
Ron Paul is right. The world hates the US because the US attacks nations to further an agenda, not because of any kind of national security concerns.
Why don’t the crooks in Washington do the same to North Korea? After all, they have nuclear weapons NOW, and they help rogue countries with their nuclear programs.
Of course, it is because North Korea poses no threat to Israel, as Iran does, and North Korea can fight back using nuclear weapons if need be. N. Korea poses a far greater threat than Iran.
And what kind of threat does Iran pose to Israel?
Well, if Israel attacks them they could fight back. That’s the threat. And if tIran had nuclear weapons Israel couldn’t bomb them at will without being attacked in return.
The Washington Mafia thinks taking us to war will get us out of this coming depression, as WWII did years ago for the first depression. But it will collapse the system. Wait and see.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:31pmROBERT and CAPTAIN. You know you two with that whining rhetoric could double for the now dead Osama Bin Laden right? Quit apologizing for, shilling for and trying to appease Radical Islam.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:47pmTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:31pm
“ROBERT and CAPTAIN. You know you two with that whining rhetoric could double for the now dead Osama Bin Laden right? Quit apologizing for, shilling for and trying to appease Radical Islam.”
Nonsense. You aren’t able to view the entire picture, either because of a lack of understanding or you aren’t well-versed enough on the suibject.
Don’t allow the control freaks to yank your chain anytime they want, because they know they can manipulate your thinking any way they so desire.
I find it odd you don’t seem to have an objection to millions of radical Muslims this same government imports and houses within our midsts. Do you think these people already here experienced some magical transformation by simply crossing a boundry line and now love us and will fight Islamic aggression?
If we fight, let us fight civil war II and take our country back. I’m for that.
It’s a waste of blood and treasure to attack a country that we could annhilate into a vapor if it really amounted to a national security issue.
The control freaks want to take us to war, hoping to prevent this coming depression.
It won’t work this time. In fact an attack on Iran will cause a global meltdown.
But, don’t take me word for it….or the word of the top analysts in the world today….just wait and you will be able to see for yourself. It’s coming down fast. http://www.trendsresearch.com
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:45pmOh horse crap ROBERT. You pacifist lemmings would sooner jump off a cliff rather than defend yourself here, there or anywhere. Stop with the I’m a homefront resistance fighter BS… you aren’t fooling anyone. I’m all for wiping the floor with Radical Islam here AND there. If you haven’t got the stomach for it… step aside homefront hero. You and CAPTAIN stick to girl’s field hockey and leave the chest puffing to those who can back it up… here, there and anywhere it threatens the U.S. and our interests.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:16pmTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:45pm
“Oh horse crap ROBERT. You pacifist lemmings would sooner jump off a cliff rather than defend yourself here, there or anywhere. ”
Don’t give me the “Oh, horse crap” dismissal, old guy, and dismiss every other point I made. You never addressed them, because you have a limited understanding.
And you allude to “defending yourself.“ Are you so idiotic you think unilaterally attacking a nation is ”defending” youself? Especially when it isn’t necessary. And you‘re so eager to have someone else fighting in an unecessary war as long as it isn’t you, eh? What the Hell does defending oneself have to do with unilaterally attacking another country? That’s the height of cowardice.
I can tell you unequivocally you or these elites wouldn’t want to get close to a fight with anyone who is equal in military power.
Are you so stupid you can’t see that the powers that be are manipulating people? Are you’re too dense to understand that those like you can be molded and manipulated any way someone wants to turn you?
I can see your biggest problem is that you can’t think, and what little that goes through your mind does so in sound bytes, not well thought out ideas.
Surely, you’re a troll. Nobody is that stupid. And if you think I‘m a pacificst you’re an idiot for that as well.
When I fight I fight on my terms, not because somebody suckers me into it.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:52pmROBERT. You assume you had points that needed to be answered to. Sorry, I didn’t see any. I saw anti-war rantings similar to Eugene McCarthy, Ron Paul, Code-Pink and Cindy Sheehan… that’s about it.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 6:38pmTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:52pm
“ROBERT. You assume you had points that needed to be answered to. Sorry, I didn’t see any. I saw anti-war rantings similar to Eugene McCarthy, Ron Paul, Code-Pink and Cindy Sheehan… that’s about it.”
Your lack of response unequivocally reveals your lack of intelligence, plus you bounce back and forth on this board thinking you cut quite a figure when you come across as no more than some out-of-touch bonehead who thinks all he has to do is make unsupported, outlandish statements to make a point.
You want a war with Iran, because you’re probably Jewish and you have some half-assed idea all you have to do is stupidly rant and rave and that will cause it to happen. Probably being Jewish is why you hate Ron Paul, too, because he puts the US first, not Israel, and many US Jews hate him for that…….Like Ben Stein and other US traitors.
If this empire goes to war with Iran, not only will it bring down the West economically, but Israel is going to be closer to ceasing to exist than ever before.
And you can take that to the bank, little guy.
Nothing you say will change a damned thing.
Report Post »onemansthoughts
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 12:57amrobert…….Anti-Jew is how you come across, you may not be, but that is how you come off…..Every country that goes against Israel has lost….and will….To me its not a matter of taking Iran out for U.S. interest alone, but you cant say our government wants war so we don’t go deeper into or to pull us out of a depression and then say if we go to war it will end us….to much of a contradiction…..The clear point is that every country that has been a friend to Israel has been blessed by God….this is not a matter of interpretation, it is a historical fact. Don’t comment on it, I wont respond, it is what it is….We have been a blessed nation because of the God of Israel…period. The day we go against Israel is the day of our death….The year we kick God out of our national conscious is the day we begin the downward spiral into uncontrollable denigration…self-evident isn’t it, look at us now…..
Weather you or anyone wants to accept it, this world is a battle field for the unseen, spiritual warfare….Satan hates you, me and every living person on earth. He is a liar and a thief. Satan used Hitler to try and exterminate the Jews. Satan is using Iran to try and exterminate the Jews. Because it is a spiritual war God will, and has won as he lives not in time, but out side of time. He has told us what is going to happen, and every thing God has ever said has and is coming true…the bible is the only truth we can hold, feel, touch, read and embrace.
Report Post »onemansthoughts
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 12:58amJust for example, the bible says Damascus will be leveled, destroyed in one hour….sure go live in Damascus and say it isn’t going to happen. There will be two witness of God sent from heaven that will be killed in Jerusalem, the whole world will see them lying dead in the streets for three days. The mark of the beast, you will not be able to sell or buy anything with out it. If you take the mark God says you will be cast into the lake of fire, if you don’t take the mark you will die…..No matter what you or anyone says, these will come to pass……..who do you serve..?
Report Post »I stand with Israel and any enemy of Israel is my enemy….
soybomb315
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:06amOneman. If it is as you say, we should have no reason to think God will not protect israel again. The wars israel went through in the 60s/70s were immediate and serious – yet israel won without starting WWIII.
You yourself say we have turned from God and falling apart from within. Attacking iran on israel’s behalf will not fix that. In fact, beause our leaders are godless – we have little reason to trust what our government says and their ability to carry out a war.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:41amONEMANSTHOUGHTS:
“……….but you cant say our government wants war so we don’t go deeper into or to pull us out of a depression and then say if we go to war it will end us….to much of a contradiction…..”
It’s not a contradiction at all. The reason you think it is is because your understanding and reading comprehension are lacking somewhat.
The powers that be have taken us to war before in order to salvage the economy somewhat, as in WWII. It workled them, because our GDP to debt was vastly lower than it is now. It will not work now and will result in a global economic meltdown, but the arrogant elites can’t see that.
And so far as “Anti-Semitic” is concerned, I’m sick to death of listening to people wail about anti-Semitism simply for criticizing Israel. It’s usually a Jew that does that like Ben Stein who outrageously declared Ron Paul an Anti-Semite for criticizing US suport of Israel in too many wars.
You hard right religious figures should wake up and understand that the promotion of Israel in your bible is all disingenuous babble. Any deity we might have is not going to favor one nation over another. Such a thing is contradictory to His supposed claim to be just and fair.,
So, my post was accurate in what it said, and all that is necessary to prove my point is to wait and see. If the US or Israel bombs Iran, we will see the gates of hell opened, because the conflagration will cause the entire world to explode.
Report Post »EWRoss
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:27pmCan the U.S. dissuade Iran from building a nuclear weapon without having to resort to the use of military force? American presidents have a mixed record of success in the post-World War II world of influencing the decision making of our adversaries and avoiding war. Where they have succeeded—the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis is the prime example—it was because they were prepared to use the full force of American power; and the adversary had no doubt that they would do so. When it comes to Iran, Israel’s threat to use unilateral force complicates U.S. decision making, but it should not prevent Washington from taking the lead and doing what is necessary. http://ewross.com/dissuading_iran_from_building_a_nuclear_weapon_the_lesson_of_the_cuban_missile_crisis.htm
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:35pmThey simply would not be able to target any nation because we’ve already planned for their response into the bomb payload amount needed to silence the regime once and for all. These guys are going to look real funny with knives sticking from their rectums after their own people get ahold of them.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:44pm@ EWRoss
We didn’t win the Cuban Missile Crisis.
It would not have happened if JFK had not called off the air support for the Bay of Pigs attack.
When it did happen, JFK betrayed our allies. He traded the USSR the missiles in Cuba for our pulling our missiles from Turkey. We gained nothing from a crisis that didn’t have to happen. We lost some of our deterrent and screwed Turkey.
Part of the agreement was that the US would not try to overthrow Fidel. We severed relations with him and had our allies do the same. Had it not been for JFK’s mishandling of the crisis, Cuba would be the star of the Caribbean. It would be a world wide vacation destination and their exports would have made millionaires, and given the people prosperity. Instead the crisis allowed Fidel to ruin his country and his people.
Report Post »LadyVet
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:25pmWe could wipe out their navy in 24 hours, level their mosques and cripple their ground forces in 48 using no ground troups, what the he11 are we waiting for? These little “napoleons” need to be dealt with before they detonate a nuclear device and believe me, they will detonate a device just as soon as they have one. Then what will Opologiser do? Sorry Iran wiped you off the map Israel but you did refuse to give all your land to the Palestinians so there is nothing we can do now…..
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:57pmYou sound like Hitler. He also used preventive war measures as justifying attacking other nations that had done no harm to Germany.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:24pmCAPTAIN77. Iran by hook and crook has been wantonly killing American Soldiers for years with Iranian made weaponry used by others. Wake-up and save that activist Code-Pink BS for your next rally in San Fran. Don’t forget to wear your pink undies.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:57pmFor the last 3 decades, Iran used a proxyfied assymetrical warfare. Using their Hizbullah buddies, they managed a plausible deniability status quo. Judging from Iran cutting Hezbollah loose and funding as well, it is reasonable presume that they think they are near to switching to a different mode of warfare.
Report Post »Uechi
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:17pmFor all the weenies that say this is just like what led up to Iraq get your head out of your butt. Iran is run by Radical Islamic Fundamentalists who believe in the return of the 12th Imam. They believe that to hasten his return the world has to be washed in blood. These aren‘t my words it’s theirs. If you believe this is political posturing and doesn’t represent a real thread just siit back and wait the world is about to be embroiled in a great war perhaps this year.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:05pmI believe as you do. Ayatollah Khamenei has said as much. War with Islam is coming whether the rest of the world wants it or not. And soon.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:35pm‘For all the weenies that say this is just like what led up to Iraq get your head out of your butt. Iran is run by Radical Islamic Fundamentalists who believe in the return of the 12th Imam.”
Then why does the multicults continue to import hundreds of thousands of Muslims into this country if they pose such a great threat? Are the multicults not creating an inner enemy force within our own borders that will have the advantage of attacking us from within? Why attack a threat from without when the enemy is within our gates and can do far more damage than a country thousands of miles away?
We are now in the midst of a global war that does not so much pit nation against nation, as it pits ideology against ideology. Muslims from within share a transnational allegiance with their brothers and sisters worldwide no matter if they live in the M.E. or Europe or the U.S., and if you think the ones here will not bide their time and strike when they’re ready, you will soon learn differently.
These control freaks in this administration and the Pentagon have an economy that is close to sliding into a full blown depression.
When they can’t find a solution to it they usually take us to war, and this war could WELL spark WWIII, and that is no exaggeration.
That’s what is happening now. But this time it will cause a global financial meltdown.
http://www.trendsreasearch.com
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:56pmRobert…..Yes, there are thousands of Islamist in America now. They have been allowed in on an unprecedented scale. When the trigger is finally pulled America is going to see terrorist attacks in every city.
Report Post »Haven‘t you ever wondered why we have been inundated with Muslims when they really don’t like our way of life?
Rayblue
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:13pmYou so vicious. You hit me with a flower. You do it every hour. You so vicious.
Report Post »smartass
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:08pmHow can you not blame them with the escalating sanctions and pressure. This is how wars begin. What do we do? Do we bully blindly ahead or sit down and find a peaceful solution? We can not afford another war. Another war such as the one in Iraq will destroy our economy in the long run. A war with Iran will not be as easy as Iraq.and could drag out for many many years and could bring nuclear weapons to play when frustrations mount.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:12pmYou sound like you’re intoxicated by the stench of your own breath.
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:13pmLemme guess … Ron Paul ?
Report Post »smartass
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:21pmHow profound, but what can I expect here on the Blaze, the forum for the ignorant one liners.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:24pmSounds to me – directly from Ahmadinejad “I’m-a-dinner-jacket”, the horse’s arse – that IRAN is the country planning to stage an attack – on Israel. So, Iran is therefore vowing to “hit” itself, whidh would be a GOOD thing.
Report Post »THXll38
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:30pmI think that we should put sanctions on THEOBAMANATION’s family. Let’s see how long it takes for him and his ilk to get pissed and attempt to do something about it.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:35pmNegotiations with Iran would play out the same as with North Korea…”Oh…you pay us huge sum of money to stop, OK…we stop!” Then of course once they have the money they start up again.
Iran is not doing this as a bargaining chip. They are doing this (seeking nuclear weapons) to kill a religious enemy. It is not from a sane or rational mind…it is from radical hatred.
I hate to tell you this, but Israel is going to get obliterated. Egypt and other countries going through this “arab spring” are cementing their islamic control and will wind up bowing down to Iran. Iraq will fall again soon into a dictatorship and join “Team Mo” like the rest. Or worse, the attack on Israel will be one of total terrorism with no trail back to any one or two country’s that will stand up to scrutiny in the world courts should we (or anyone else) pull another Bush-attack on the wrong country on faulty intelligence.
And I’m sorry…but my whole life I’ve tried to explain to people about the gift (and curse) of Free Will which our lord gave us…and I don‘t think he’s going to intervene as some seem to think and protect the “chosen” people.
It’s not going to matter if it comes to war and we roll over Iran like a bunch of cutely dressed Nancy-boys. Actual war is not the strong suit in the middle east. TERRORISM is. So go ahead and attack them and watch them make 9/11 look small time.
Our free & open society (and borders) make us easy pickings. Only distance has protec
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:21pmTHXll38: “I think that we should put sanctions on THEOBAMANATION’s family. Let’s see how long it takes for him and his ilk to get pissed and attempt to do something about it.”
Sanctions don’t amount to much. It is largely symbolic. In your example it would be like Obamunist family would be deprived of ice cream. They may be pissed about it and sneak a gallon in the WH through the underground corridor, sure.
I think you confuse sanction with a blocade. The second has been actually threatened by Iran at different times. All they have to do is to blow up several tankers in the Straight of Hormuz, and they will block oil traffic for months.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:05pmJust an observation! Not more then 30/40 yrs ago the world was humming along with no concern with jehad-ies and Muslim violence around the world. That kind of behavior was a bad thing. But this is now and things are much different. It’s as if we simply have lost our collective minds! Is it not? I sit and wonder when will the shot herd around the world, be fired again? couple that with all the resents prophecy revelations and wa-la something bad is about to happen. Now I am not saying that the world will end but what I was thinking of when I wrote this song was that things are getting a little stranger then normal.
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The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:54pmIt’s simple. You go back to WWII and all the riches we raked in with the “lend lease” program, the fear we generated with our nuclear bombings and the US dollar being the world currency for trading. We became “king-of-the-hill”, began flying through our riches, heading down the path to borrowing, started sticking our noses into every country’s business and trying to steer them in the direction we wanted, defended our hill against Russia in the cold war until our wallets were empty…and all along, the rest of the world moved forward in the industrial and tech fields which meant they needed bigger slices of the resources available. We all shake hands with a dagger in the other.
And almost all are slowly turning their ire towards the US…because they are freaking tired of us trying to police and control them. They are tired of our underhanded manipulations.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:48pmRaking riches…
Report Post »No Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP), huh?
The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:23pmWe charged huge sums for arms of all kinds…and even made them come and get it rather than risk having a vessal sunk by U-boats. It made the Marshall plan pocket change in comparison.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:39pm12.731 billion in 1946 dollars ($140.601 billion in 2012). Pocket change. Yeah, right.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 4:00pmAlso, your claim about allies forced to get the stuff…
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_convoys
Convoys to Murmansk are under White Sea moniker.
The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:25pmTransportation and convoys WERE in effect for the Lend Lease Program, I was referring to the Cash & Carry program which preceded the other until our allies were strapeed for cash. The “Cash & Carry“ program went into effect to maintain our ”neutrality” and called for the buyers to come and get it with their own transportation.
“This program also prevented U.S. businesses interests backing the success or failure of any warring nation. Because of the conclusion of the Nye Committee, which asserted that United States involvement in World War I was driven by private interests from arms manufacturers, many Americans believed that investment in a belligerent would eventually lead to American participation in war.”
Though I found no amounts in how much the US made during “Cash & carry”, Wikipedia places the amount of Lend Lease at 50.1 billion (611 billion nowadays) …this does not include the amounts we charged them via loans after the war to retain equipment and continue providing supplies, which was another 1.075 billion POUNDS from Britain and another 4.7 billion dollars from Russia & the United Kingdom…that is “then” dollars and not “todays.”
It also does not include the amounts in “reverse Lend Lease” programs for use of air bases and so on which came to another 7.8 billion (then money) in long term loans payable to the US…6.8 billion of this was from the British and Commonwealth.
140 billion spent for 1/2 trillion gained.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 6:09pmYou mean to say that all the material and labor spent on the production of the goods/weaponry that were a part of the program cost nothing? A manna falling from the sky?
I hope you aren’t working in a field of economy.
Report Post »funwithguitars
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:53pmAll the same type of rhetoric that led up to iraq…now we have 3 carrier groups in the strait of hormuz…Almost makes me believe the theory that usa and nwo people are perpetuating this to cry “war”, then the police state crackdown comes. That would give them everything they want. The opportunity to confiscate guns, round up dissidents for fema camps and indefinite detention. They’re prepared, are you?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:33pmSo, Iran is saying “we‘ll keel ’ya“ and ”death to“ which ever ”satan” big or small, and that’s fine, it’s the media that reports it that are the warmongers.
Paulistinian logic is so amazing.
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:45pmThe Revolutionary Guard needs a quick lesson on Camouflage … In the desert … you don’t want to look like a Christmas tree.
Report Post »UBETHECHANGE
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:43pmWhat the heck does this mean blaze? The blaze is not allowing me to comment on the Newt meltdown story?!? COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.
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momrules
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:01pmAs I was reading thru comments earlier today I got the same message but it was gone by the time I checked again.
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mlukasiewicz
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:41pmIran is threatening to target any country were an attack is targeted against them. Isn’t this the policy of every country. Nice spin job.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:52pmYou are going at it from the middle. Iran has stated it’s plans overtly for years and not so overtly as some details go (some moons back one of the senior IRG defectors brought some interesting info with him regarding what the plans are — it may be called “operation powder keg” or “big bada boom”, based on the content).
For some odd reason, you think they are kidding or not serious.
Report Post »mlukasiewicz
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:20pmI do believe they are serious in defending there country against an attack as would any other country.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:13pmSo assymetrical warfare Iran has been engaged in for several decades is fine with you?
Consider that Israel does not have any margin of error. If someone bombs your embassies via proxies, claims hat you will be history and follows with “death to mlukasiewicz” while upgrading their armament, what would you be inclined to think? That they are just friendly jesting?
Report Post »mlukasiewicz
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:09pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfzrHY1Lywo
Don’t fall for the same propaganda that told us Iraq had chemical weapons. They may have ad them at one time, unfortunately we were the ones who sold them to Iraq for there war with Iran. A little history lesson above of who started the assymetrical warfare.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 5:38pmhttp://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-uranium-cameco?_s=PM:US
500 tons would make an awful bunch of radiological bombs.
Report Post »mlukasiewicz
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 9:20pmhttp://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2009/1002/p04s01-usfp.html
Report Post »mlukasiewicz
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 9:29pmLow grade uranium is not used for radiological bombs. Probably would have been a good idea to read what you post. (It s not enriched and cannot be used without first going through a complicated enrichment process, he said, but because of the unstable nature of Iraq, the United States and the Iraqi government decided it should be moved out of that country. Iraq has no nuclear power generating plants.)
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:36pmYou don’t have to worry about a counter punch if you knock someone out.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:46pmExcept when you miss or over extend
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:34pmLets just hope we dont punch ourselves in the face…Wouldnt be the first time we start a fight like that
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:35pmIran wants to Play… I can hit you… but you cannot hit me, because my Big Brother will beat you up!
Report Post »snyper
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:05pmhis big brother is traitor omama
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:57pmTheir big brother is China…and they can crush us without ever firing a shot. They’ll just foreclose.
You should vote to fire any leader in the US that is not for extreme changes to lead us back to INDEPENDENCE.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:31pmPlease if we bomb them do we then have rebuild everything, build schools, roads , bridges…. Like we always do ? Or can we blast em into oblivion and leave….
Report Post »fukjihad
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:12pmExcellent question that should be answered before we destroy them. The only way to stop Iran from building a bomb is to destroy them and not rebuild and continue to destroy. Trying to make them our friends is insane. The other option is to let them get a bomb. Those are the only 2 options, everything else is a waste of money and time. Nuclear war is in our future, get ready for it.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:31pmLet’s all agree that in order to go to war with iran – we must first get a declaration of war from congress (according to the constitution). That is the best way to avoid getting bogged down into some sort of wasteful nation-building
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:30pmPeople war is coming and soon; under Obama I believe he will order the US Fleet to defend Iran if Israel attacks and if the Iranian govt strikes at the US navy, for them to not defend themseves at all.
Obama will use this as another cut and run story for sacrificing American blood while he cracks down all the harder at home.
Iran strikes – national emergency declared by Obama – dictatorship.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:53pmSnowleopard I agree with your post obama’s never stood with the people of Iran that wanted our help to over throw their insane leader. He jumped right in on Egypt and is going to on Syria he is for the muslim brotherhood.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:06pmHe may use this to suspend the November election as well, there is nothing this idiot wont try or do to make himself our dictator. In his own words he said he was going to fundamentally change our country.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:29pmI do feel for the people who are under the boot of the evil leaders; but they are the ones who need to do something about it. Better now than later, cuz if their leadership picks a fight with us, it might be too late.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:28pmAnd heeeeeeeeere we go…….. Again
Report Post »Grasshopper42
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:26pm“Gen. Hossein Salami” is full of bologna! ;-)
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:42pmhehe, +1
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:26pmi was under the assumption that iran would sit back and let countries attack them…
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:24pmOkay. fair warning. prepare to be attacked.
Report Post »Welcome Black Carter
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 11:51pmIran’s statements remind me of Bagdad Bob.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:23pmHere is your daily iran story – courtesy of theblaze. No matter how trivial the story, they will post one a day until war breaks out
Report Post »TheObamanation
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:32pmPatient: Every time I go to TheBlaze … they have an Iran story I don’t like …
Report Post »Doctor: Quit going to TheBlaze …
CatB
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:23pmUmmm okay .. aren’t they the ones going around and threatening other countries? Wanting to “wipe Israel off the map”? You make threats and people are likely to take you seriously and try to stop you!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:32pmWhat I also wish to know is that according to local newspapers and the radio program – Voice to America/Sunday edition the dictator of Yemen has been a guest here in the US for over a week now and almost no coverage comes out from it.
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