Iran War ‘Doomsday Clock’ Set to 10-Minutes-to-Midnight as Netanyahu Hints Conflict Could Occur Within Months
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On the heels of President Barack Obama’s meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last week, diplomats and pundits continue to try to answer the perplexing question: Will Israel and/or the U.S. launch a military strike on Iran?
Now, one publication is throwing some science into the mix. Or at least political science. Modeled on the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists’ Doomsday Clock showing “how close humanity is to catastrophic destruction,” The Atlantic has assembled a group of former policymakers, journalists and academics to provide their private opinions, which are then combined into a collective prediction.
The clock is presently set at 10 minutes to midnight, or a 48 percent chance of war.
More from The Atlantic:
War or peace in the Middle East amounts to a coin toss. The probability that the United States or Israel will strike Iran in the next year is 48 percent according to a new project that predicts the chances of conflict–the Iran War Clock. And as a result, the clock is set to 10 minutes to midnight.
The magazine explains how it works:
Each panelist makes an individual estimate about the percentage chance of war and we report the average score. Based on this number, we adjust the Iran War Clock so that the hand moves closer to, or further away from, midnight.
If there is a zero percent chance of war, the clock hand is at 20 minutes to midnight. Each extra 5 percent chance of war moves the hand one minute closer to midnight. So, for instance, a 10 percent chance of war would set the clock at 18 minutes to midnight, and a 75 percent chance of war would set the clock at 5 minutes to midnight. We round up and down, so 48 percent is rounded up to 10 minutes to midnight.
The Iran War Clock is not designed to be pro-war or anti-war. Instead, the purpose is to estimate the chances of conflict in the hope of producing a more informed debate. If people hold a very inaccurate view of the odds of war it could be dangerous.
We’re humble about the accuracy of this prediction, which is really a collective “gut-check” feeling. But it may be closer to the truth than the alternative forecasts available.
Shortly after the new clock’s launching last week, Netanyahu made a suggestion that could bring the minute hand closer to midnight. In interviews to Israel’s television news programs which aired Saturday night, Netanyahu hinted an attack on Iran could take place within months:
“We’re not standing with a stopwatch in hand,” he said. “It’s not a matter of days or weeks, but also not of years. The result must be removal of the threat of nuclear weapons in Iran’s hands.”
Ha’aretz reports:
“I hope there won’t be a war at all, and that the pressure on Iran will succeed,” the prime minister stressed, noting that his preferred choice would be for Iran to halt its nuclear program and dismantle the uranium enrichment facility located in an underground site near Qom. “That would make me happiest,” he said. “I think every citizen of Israel would be happy.”
“Making decisions isn’t the problem; it’s making the right decision,” Netanyahu added. “If you don‘t make the decision and don’t succeed in preventing this [an Iranian nuke], to whom will you explain this – to the historians? To the generations before you, and the generations that won’t come after you?”
This as the former head of the Mossad Meir Dagan continues to argue against an Israeli military strike before “exploring all other approaches,” calling the Iranian regime “rational.” In an interview with “60 Minutes” to be broadcast Sunday night, he argues for encouraging regime change instead:
“The regime in Iran is a very rational one,” says the former top Israeli spymaster. And President Ahmadinejad? “The answer is yes,” he replies, but “not exactly our rational, but I think he is rational,” Dagan tells Stahl.
It’s a different kind of rational says Dagan, not rational in the Western-thinking sense. “But no doubt, they are considering all the implications of their actions … They will have to pay dearly … and I think the Iranians at this point in time are … very careful on the project,” says Dagan. “They are not running.”
So he doesn’t advocate a pre-emptive Israeli military strike against Iran’s nuclear industry anytime soon, an attack that he said would have to be against “a large number of targets.” There is time to wait before such dire actions need to be taken. In the meantime, he thinks that to foment regime change is a smarter tactic.
Dagan also believes that the U.S. will intervene if necessary, because “the issue of Iran armed with a nuclear capability is not an Israeli problem; it’s an international problem.”
With all the war talk, you would think Israelis would be anxious. Apparently not so. Times of Israel Editor David Horovitz writes, “We’re not in a state of panic, or anything like it. If relatives or friends from the US phoned up to ask whether it was safe to visit, we’d frankly be baffled by the question.” And The New York Times reports tensions haven’t affected Israelis’ financial planning, quoting Yair Seroussi, chairman of the board of directors of Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s largest bank:
“For Israelis, it is business as usual,” Mr. Seroussi said in an interview, noting that a crisis every few years was part of the Israeli routine. “We were born to it, no?”
The Atlantic notes that even a slight change could tip the balance in favor of war: “Peace is still more likely than war, but only just. And when we next update the Iran War Clock, the odds will favor the hawks if the clock ticks even one minute closer to midnight.”
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lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:53amEver hear of a God of Death? In order to bring this God through the Portal, that separates the Universe from the Abyss, one must initiate Self Destruction of the World.
Cardinals are “Hinge” Keepers… or Portal Guardians… functioning to keep the Portal closed!
Ancient Legend… maybe… but the Iranian Leaders are all in!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:05pmMeds not working today Luke?
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:09pmRead the book of Revelation. It’s all in there. And, guess what? FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST WIN. The battle may be great, BUT WE WIN THE WAR for eternity. Hurrah! I can wait. Can you?
IT’S GONNA BE A WILD RIDE. What I can’t wait for the most is that I, a follower of Christ, will be riding with Christ on a horse to kill all those evil people left, along with millions of other true Christians. Yup, our Lord and Savior will lead us during the end of the great and final battle. YOU LOSE, SATAN AND ALL YOUR EVIL PEOPLE. So, if any country strikes Israel, KNOW THAT THE END IS NEARER THAN YOU THOUGHT. I believe it is 1 minute before midnight because whoever sends that first bomb, will be the beginning OF THE END. I AM READY AND WAITING. I hope all of you are ready to meet the Lord. I hope you have repented and are all prayed up. When is the last time you actually PRAYED?
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:11pmJust for your information:
Report Post »GOD IS PROTECTING ISRAEL. HE WILL THWART ANYTHING THAT COMES HER WAY, NO MATTER WHAT. So, if you believe she will be destroyed, you don’t know your Bible very well.
Israel has THE GREATEST MILITARY FORCE IN THE WORLD. And, what really makes her great is that GOD IS ON HER SIDE. Try beating that.
cuinsong
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:23pmIt is clear to me that if Iran gets a N bomb it will be used on somebody.
Report Post »The Muslims are just to crazy and that is the way it is.
They believe they are acting in gods favor and this is a way to bring about the end times.
They can’t be talked out of it or bought off.
They are fanatics and zealots that are on a mission to save their souls and secure their place in virgin land.
Sadly it sounds like a sexual fantasy that has been preached into their psyches’ and now they will do anything to get to the land of sex!
Bottom line this world is spinning out of control and our government is fiddling on the side smiling at the rich white people with sweet revenge at hand. What else do I need to know in order to see that this world is about to implode!
Where it all will lead to.
“The End Times” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10381143
PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:36pm@BADDOGGY
Report Post »Thank you for the chuckles.
I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:41pmUpdate:
Report Post »OVER 90 ROCKETS HIT ISRAEL IN LAST 24 HOURS
http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/over-90-rockets-hit-israel-in-last-24-hours/
PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:09pmDoesn’t that happen every day?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:11pm@BADDOG…
Report Post »Your really must read more: the Ancient Religion of Iran, Persia, was Zoroastrianism, Mazdeism, with various Gods, served by Portal Keepers, through Mystic Spells… and this has become combined into their Muslim Sect & thinking.
Then look up how Catholic Cardinal came to exist.
saraand
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 5:58pmWhy when you mention the record sources, you use the most left-wing sources. And sometimes those who want Netanyahu’s replacement as Dagan arrogant.
Report Post »He thought he was above the Prime Minister.
Majority in ISRAEL supports and trust Netanyahu. the Majority not willing to live with the Iranian threat.
who’s understanding, understand .
EndTheFedNOW
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:07pmDoes God protect the corrupt government of Israel? Does God endorse the Israelis when they attacked and kiled 35 US saliors on the USS Liberty? They blew one of our ships up and never once apolgized. I am a christian. I know the importance of the state of Israel. But I will not worship a corrupt government. I stand with the people, not with the state. They can fight their own war. I dont wanna see ww3 or a nuclear war.
http://www.gtr5.com/
(check out that link about the USS Liberty)
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:45pmSomewhere this Thread went off track! Oh, well… just watch “Ghost Busters 2”!
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 6:50pmyeah its just a conspicary theroy. just buy hook line and sinker what the MSM and FOX tells you. LAWL
Report Post »Glock31
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:45pmi was wondering the same thing
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:52amI am free in June!!
Report Post »mcmeador
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:26amI don’t think Netanyahu is hinting anything about a war beginning in months. It seems to me that he is simply saying that Israel isn’t counting down to a certain moment. There’s no plan to begin a war at any specific point in time, and that they are still trying to avoid it if possible.
Report Post »IhaveOneToo
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:11amThis is all so ridiculous. A flip of a coin determines war? No, its not as simple as that. Factors such as political ambition, infuential desires, fears, capabilities and so on and so fort determine what is in a man’s/government’s heart.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:05pmThe story went right over your head. The point was that flipping a coin is 50% and the odds of war is 48%. They meant it is even odds. Not that they are going to flip a coin. Had they included the fact that it’s muslims on the other side, the odds for war would be at least 95%.
Report Post »IhaveOneToo
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:02pmNo, it didn’t go over my head. To say its a flip of a coin implies there is no decision. IDIOT
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:29pm@CHIPS!
Report Post »Give up… Hot Girl at 10 O’Clock :)
Paul
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:08pmThe odds of war are %100
Written.
http://theseason.yolasite.com/
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:06amWhether Iran gets a nuke is up to obama, just as North Korea getting theirs was up to clinton… Both have caused great disruption to any prospects of World peace..
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:08pmYou are kidding right? Israel will take care of Iran before they get a nuke. Unless Obama declares war on Israel (which with hin could be possible) Iran will never get a nuke. Israel will take care of business. We just need to stay out of the way.
Ignorant Neocons do not even understand the war they want…Idiots.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:24pmGhandi was NOT a Republican, fool. Even some Republicans are evil. Assumption is the LOWEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:06amI doubt that Iran has a nuclear weapon (unless you consider severe inflation to be a nuclear weapon):
———————–
(WND’s Jerome Corsi from Feb. 3, 2006):
“Today, about 70 percent of the world’s international foreign currency reserves are held in dollars. If the petroeuro begins to challenge the petrodollar, this percentage could diminish drastically.
The United States depends on the dollar foreign-currency reserves in order to sell the Treasury debt that sustains budget deficits. What if foreign-exchange portfolios from oil sales fell to 60 percent being held in dollars – would that cause a crisis in the U.S. economy? Or would it take 55 percent? Most Americans are completely unaware of this threat Iran represents to the U.S. economy.
The Iranians, however, are fully aware of what they are threatening, and so are top economic experts within the administration.”
Report Post »http://www.wnd.com/2006/02/34643/
SoupSandwich
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:07pmKid-
Report Post »How many stars are on your epulats again? Well gee in intramural underwater basket weaving yesterday the prof said… “Shut your pie hole” something your parents ever utter? Smack/find a parent then.
ShadowPlacebo
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:35amBomb Iran. Not a Nuke because that’s never a good idea.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:34amAnother attempt to whip Americans up into a frenzy so that they demand war with Iran. This will result in defense contractors getting more contracts to build more bombs and planes and ships, even as the country goes broke.
Thankfully, the democrats and republicans will be able to reach a compromise, and spend trillions on armaments and trillions on welfare – everyone in Washington can then be happy and content.
Nevermind that we are going broke and selling out our future.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:49amThe D‘s and R’s are identical and we have a one party system in this country and they’re big on starting unconstitutional wars and perpetuating the welfare state.They’ll never get spending under control even after the collapse and our founders are rolling in their graves at the state of our republic,it’s a damn shame what we allowed politicians to get away with for so many years.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:56amIran has always been the next front in this War on Terrorism…they have always been the root of terror in the region and around the world. Make no mistake, its not another War its one in the same War we’ve been fighting just another front is all. All out War will come from this next move though!
Report Post »nuttyvet
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:45amagreed postman
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:31amIran’s leaders believe in the 12th Immam and he will appear when war and strife and catastrophe hit the world. They do not care about the consequences of their actions. I am sure the everyday Iranian does but they don’t run the place. I think we should give them what they want. Make their country a ‘catastrophe’,….get the Immam out of his hiding place….and hang him too.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:00amIts also a choice of whether or not we maintain a state of quasi dentente’ where peace is always just out of reach, the region suffers mini terror attacks daily from Iran supporters like Hamas and Hezbollah or do we finally call it to an end and take Iran out so we can build fresh from there.
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:49pm@The Great Carnac: Everyday Iranians can say the exact same thing about the U.S. if you switched out “12th Immam” with the “Second Coming”. And you are absolutely right, us everyday Americans don’t run the place!
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:26pm@CALM VOICE OF REASON
Report Post »Nice flamethrower you got there son.
There is a vast difference between the Mahdi and Jesus. the Mahdi is a man, Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God. The Madhi will want to conquer the whole world for Islam, any not a believer in the prophet Muhammad will be crushed. Jesus Christ only wants to conquer Satan his minions and followers who reject God, then justly judge all of humankind, but not through violence, for He is The King of Peace.
adeleeeee
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:26amGosh I am not sure, I hope Israel can bomb the hell up of Iran but worry whole world would against it esply from UN. Anyway, I support whatever decision made by Israel. May the grace of the Lord be with Israel forever and ever!!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:16amAgree .. I trust that Israel will do what they must to survive .. and I pray for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu — I believe him to be a very good man.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:49pmIsrale will do what Israel needs to do to survive; the main thing them becomes Obama turning on Israel and seeking to destroy her in support of his radical allies.
Report Post »Paul -Indiana
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:51pmI doubt that Israel would have to bomb all of Iran. Drop one on Mullah-Central and the military bases and on the ENTRANCES of the underground facilities. That would pretty much end the current threat. As far as obama, keep remembering that Obama was elected by only 30% of registered voters. There was a 58% turnout and of the people who actually voted, 52% voted for Obama. Multiply 0.58 and 0.52 and you get 0.30. Just 30% of registered voters saddled us with Obama. Forget about the polls and just vote. He is just another taqiyyah-spouting muslim or muslim-sympathiser.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:07amThe Atlantic, a lefty rag, ripped off a legitimate, and objective ‘barometer’ from the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists and replaced the scientists with their panel of politicians, journalists and academics. There’s some real credibility there. The Atlantic is gonna have to be a little more Spacific.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:05amThe Palastinian terrorists in Gaza have been firing rockets into southern Israel, over a hundred in the past two days. Iran is building nukes for the express purpose of destroying Israel. Muslim hatred wordwide is directed at Israel and the Jews.
War is coming with Iran. Israel will not be helpless. America may not stand behind her but God will.
Yes, Israel will strike back, is striking back and I have their back. I wish I could do more than pray.
Report Post »docmd
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:16amMOMRULES : Prayer is the BEST we can do!!!! REMEMBER __GOD__ can move MOUNTAINS and PRAYER moves __GOD__!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:24amDon’t forget fasting, coupled with prayer moves God even more.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:52am@docmd and pax………..I agree. I know the power of prayer. I know what the Bible says regarding Israel and the nations that do not stand beside her. We are watching the prophecies coming true. I will always stand beside Israel and she is in my prayers daily. God bless you both too.
Report Post »Daddy Hawg
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:05amOver in the mid-east they understand one-another and that is why you see open conflict, Here in the US we are in a covert war most people cannot recognize as islam makes its way into our judicial systems. To think that the prez would interject the US to save Israel is unclear thinking. We need to stand by Israel and their people as best we can.
Report Post »Jubarnes87
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:20pmOur nations leaders may wish for Israel’s destruction under their breath, but God knows the heart of all. He knows of those who pray daily for the peace and restoration of Israel.
…….For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish; it will be utterly ruined” (Isaiah 60:1,9-12). Our nation might not be spared, but God is faithful to those who believe and follow his commands. I do not fear because I know the truth, and I know in the end who will be victorious.
I have the following verse hanging in our house to be a constant reminder to pray and bless Israel. ”Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; may they prosper who love you. May peace be within your walls, and prosperity within your palaces. For the sake of my brothers and my friends, I will now say, ‘May peace be within you.’ For the sake of the house of the Lord our God, I will seek your good” (Psalm 122; 6-9)
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:51pmMOMRULES, thank you and may God’s seal and blessing be upon you.
Report Post »EP46
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:58amGenerations of people around the world have waited for the day that America would have a potus who would be so weak that he would allow WWIII…..that day has arrived.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:51amDo they set the doomsday clock ahead by 1 hour today?
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:26amHa….good one
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:31pmHe who laughs first, WILL LAUGH LAST.
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:46amCould this be the beginning of sorrows? Ohh Jesus come soon father. Help us all to be ready and awake for the troubles to come.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:03amWe are already in the time of sorrows. Wars and rumors of Wars, Great Quakes, Famine, Flood, Epic Tornados, terrible signs, brother against brother, father against son, pride, self indulgence, good is now evil, evil is now good, economic hardship, apostasy church what more does one need to show them that the birth pangs have increased and the times of great sorrow are upon us.
Report Post »KOCHLEFFEL
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:23pmCHILD OF J.
Report Post »I hope you have your diapers ready!
Susie
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:35pmHey KOCKLEFFEL [I hope you have your diapers ready] ??
Report Post »That was not only rude and insulting but totally asinine.
CHILDOFJESUS – don’t pay any attention to dopes like this. They spend their empty hours trolling the internet for spots where they can inject their infantile stupidity into adult conversations.
KOCHLEFFEL
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:06pmSusie,thanks for your kind respond. At least I pissed someone off!
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:28pmKOCHLEFFEL:
Report Post »It doesn’t piss me off. In fact, it makes me smile because I KNOW that the words you said are being recorded by God and you WILL have some explaining to do about what you say AGAINST HIS PEOPLE on Judgement Day, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. I hope your soul is ready.
qpwillie
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:45amNetanyahu knows what 0bama is and that he can’t depend on him. All he can do is look out for the interests of Israel and forget any help from 0bama.
When 0bama says he’s got your back, he means he has a blade drawn to stab you in it.
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:08pmWhen Obama‘s says he’s got (a target on) your back he mumbles the part about the target he’s placed there.
Report Post »mikee1
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:45amIsrael, JUST NUKE IRAN NOW. The big bombs will go off in the MIDDLE EAST. They must hit the muslims or YOU’RE DEAD.
Report Post »TANK3584
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:43amLet the party begin….Got the popcorn ready……
Report Post »justangry
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:27amI wouldn’t call it a party. Families will suffer, living day to day waiting for the next letter to know their loved ones were still alive 2 weeks to a month ago.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:12pmAnd every day more and more Kassams fly into Israel. Enough is about enough already. The poor peoples of Iran will suffer for their leadership sure, but maybe when the dust settles they can have actual choice again. I wouldn‘t poke the Israeli’s with a stick, but I don’t hump goats either so go figure.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on March 12, 2012 at 3:17amAmos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:42amWHAT scares me the most about the crisis in the middle east is that Obama is in control of our foreign policy, and its been a disaster so far….
Report Post »EP46
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:00amobama has succeeded on evey plan he had for foreign policy…that is the danger.
Report Post »PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:16amMCDAVE, why are you so scared? What is happening in the world was prophesized two thousand years ago. The seals are being broken. The Son of The Living God is coming and all that was prophesized to happen before His arrival will happen. That includes wars and rumors of wars. It doesn’t matter who is in office. Only by His followers uniting as one and turning to The Lord through fasting, prayer and repentance can the worst of it be avoided.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:35pmPaxInVeritate:
Yes that is true, BUT, it will come to pass. We may be able to delay it, BUT IF IT’S IN THE BIBLE, IT WILL HAPPEN, sooner or later.
IF ANYONE IS NOT ON ISRAEL’S SIDE IN THIS, THEN YOU ARE NOT ON GOD’S SIDE. Better think good and hard about that. God will mark you as an enemy and destroy you, as well.
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:46pmIn 1948, the world assembled to lift an offering to God, which was the nation of Israel. They carried this present to God of the Jews, to their land, Mount Zion. Though the nations had fallen asleep, they awoke in the face of this great evil. They gasped at piles of bones and ash. As numbness faded, we filled us with sorrow, for we awoke too late for millions.
Our civilised world suddenly looked more barbaric than we could accept. And repentant people from around the world took a bold step, standing as one, to make an offering to God, (in part, for forgiveness of our sins of tolerance towards evil). We had closed our ears when Nazi trumpets sounded. We closed our eyes to the his banner, and ignored the slogans of hatred- because it didn’t concern us. We allowed the shadow under the wings of Nazi oppression to grow, before bold action was taken.
When Hitler built up his navy, and began to send u-boats our as ambassadors of evil to distant land, we took note from across the Atlantic. But a Japanese surprise to wake us up fully. But once it was over, a repentant people of the world returned to God what was His. And in 1948, the Jews were united with their land once again.
Now, almost 70 years have passed, and memory fades. A growing culture of God-haters resent both Christ and the God’s covenant. Christians know the correct side in this, just as the Christian nations so many years ago had presented this gift to God, we must protect it.
Report Post »Texas.7
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 4:47pmIs 18:1 Woe to the land shadowing with wings (Nazi Iron Eagle)
Report Post »Which lies beyond the rivers of Ethiopia (or far away),
2 Which sends amb by the sea,
Even in reed vessels (or vessels that drink, gome’) upon the oceans.
Go, swift messengers, to a nation scattered and cast about,
To a people fearful from their beginning,
a nation meted out and trodden down,
Whose land the rivers (peoples) have divided.
3 All you inhabitants of the world and dwellers on earth,
As soon as a standard is raised on the mountains, see it,
And as soon as the trumpet is blown, hear it!
4 For thus the LORD has told me,
“I will look from My dwelling place quietly
Like dazzling heat in the sunshine,
Like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.”
5 For before the harvest, when the bud is complete,
And the flower becomes a ripening grape (Isreal),
He will cut off the sprigs with pruning knives
And remove and cut away the spreading branches.
6 They will be left together for mountain birds of prey,
And for the beasts of the earth;
And the birds of prey will spend the summer feeding on them,
And all the beasts of the earth will spend harvest time on them.
*********7 At that time a present will be carried to the LORD of hosts
of a people scattered and cast about
Even a people fearful from their beginning,
a nation meted out and trodden down,
Whose land the rivers divide—
To the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, even Mount Zion.
progressiveslayer
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:42amSince Netanyahu said an attack is imminent the speculators will seize this as an opportunity to raise the price of oil,it’s funny how anything that would make the price go up happens so fast,anything that would cause the price to go down is very slow,weird isn’t it?
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Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:40amIs that before or after daylight savings?
Report Post »TANK3584
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:41amLmao
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:38amWar is peace
Report Post »Anyone who is against the war in Iran is against the troops
Anyone who is against the war is against America
Anyone who is against the war is your enemy
War is peace
Its ok to let the government spy on you. The government is here to help.
Its ok to give up more of your freedoms to the government because the government would never abuse them.
The government would never lie to you.
If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about.
Those who support the war are the real patriots.
Those who oppose the war are dangerous.
War is peace.
PaxInVeritate
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:46amDISSENTNOW, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:49amRon Paul as president and a congress that has integrity and governs within the bounds of the constitution would be the answer and go a long way in saving our republic,unfortunately we’ll never see that happen.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:10am“Ron Paul [...] unfortunately we’ll never see that happen.”
Fortunately for us “we’ll never see that happen”, and thank God for that.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:17amYou really do hate the constitution you claim to have taken an oath to defend,so vote for your progressive with an R next to his name.He’ll keep us in debt to the tune of trillions and trillions and keep us in undeclared wars and not take care of the returning vets.You don‘t want to take care of the vets medical needs don’t start unconstitutional wars.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:28amNah, i woke up on my usual side of the bed this morning.I’m just calling it like it is. These are the same war drums that were beating during the build up to the war in Iraq. I just think its funny that the same people who are now running around with Gadsden flags while name dropping the founding fathers and singing the praises of the constitution were the same people who supported the patriot act, domestic spying, and gutting the 4th amendment.
Report Post »And while we are talking about hypocrites, hey, fiscal conservatives, how are we going to pay for the war in Iran?
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 10:29amSLAYER. You’re a lost cause when it comes to Paul, but have no fear… he’s a lost cause too. And just like Shake and Bake Chicken? “And I helped”, lol.
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:00amWe are not going to war with Iran.Obama will lead from behind as always.If Israel is succesful,O will say he advised Bibi to dtrike.If Israel is unsussesful,O will say,I tried to talk him out of it.O will also say ,we should not get involved,it is not in our National intrest.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:12amIt wasn’t in our national interest to go to war with Iraq either. We will go to war with Iran in one way or another. If you don’t learn from history then you are doomed to repeat it and when it comes to foreign policy, we NEVER learn from history.
Report Post »Again, i ask, how will we pay for the war in Iran?
resme
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 1:09pmThey will pay with glitter after stoning gays of course.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:38amIsrael must protect her land and people from Iran. I believe it is only a matter of time before something happens. I hope the USA will have Israel’s back but I will not count on it. Good luck..
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:56amIsrael can wipe Iran off the map and everyone knows it, including Iran. I wish that people would stop acting like Israel is some poor, helpless child that can’t defend itself. That being said, if Israel feels that attacking Iran is in its national interest, then more power to them and i wish them the best of luck but i do not feel that it is in OUR national interest to shed American lives or our money, of which we can NOT afford to shed, to defend a country that certainly doesn’t need our help defending itself.
Report Post »Again, i ask, how do we pay for the war with Iran?
SoupSandwich
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 2:11pmWe could defund Planned Parenthood, drop the free phone service for slackers, back off on the lifetime of unemployment, kick 95% of the liars out of public housing, have the house and senate telecommute or ride a mule if a D is affixed. Many, many avenues of approach to squirelling a few nickels. Israel has taken lots of our base/stock weaponry and done wonders in the advancement of what we have given or sold them. So, solely on a military point, we need to see how our advanced weaponry fleshes out and to then dissect their changes in advancing our weaponry on the battlefield, as small or limited as it may be in a conflagration with the towelies. Who doesn’t want to kick Iranian butt into Turkey anyway just on sheer principle? Fire for effect and happy lalalalalalala to you too.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 3:22pmYou are not being realistic, SOUP. We are NOT going to do any of what you have suggested. PERIOD! Sure, a republican administration might push to cut a small fraction of the welfare spending but not enough to balance out the warfare spending. Do you seriously think that president Romney or president Santorum or president Gingrich is going to make even a fraction of the cuts that you have suggested?
Report Post »You can not fix the economy with theoretical tax cuts. What you have suggested is not going to happen even if a republican wins the election ( except for Ron Paul ).
Again, i ask, how are we going to pay for the war with Iran?
IndyGuy
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:38amMore like within minutes…what the hell are we waiting for???? Iran has been the driving force behind terrorism throughout the world since the 70s…
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 11:42amActually, i think that Saudi Arabia has been the real driving force behind most of the terrorist activity over the past several decades……
Report Post »Oops, i forgot. What i really meant to say was the Saudi Arabia is our friend and a trusted ally in the war on terror…..
MidWestMom
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 12:49pmI agree that the Saudis have been and still are the biggest source of funding for terrorist groups.
Heard an interesting theory the other day:
Truth is the Dept of Homeland Security is a joke. Iran & other hostile middle eastern countries could easily launch terrorist attacks in the United States. Think smaller, simultaneous events and the resulting devastation & chaos. But they haven’t (yet). Why? Because they learned from our response to 9/11 and the resulting all out war on Iraq and they don‘t want or aren’t ready to fight a full military assault from the US.
BUT, because of Obama’s lack of support for Israel and the same from other countries, attacking Israel is fast becoming a viable option. If the anti-Israel middle east can push Israel into a first-strike, then they can justify retaliation which will immediately escalate into war. Or they might feel confident enough to attack Israel first. The big question is, if either one of those scenarios happen, will the United States and other nations step in to support & defend Israel or will they let it sink or swim on its own?
Report Post »Edward
Posted on March 11, 2012 at 9:37amWho watches the Watchmen??
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