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Iraqi Christians Forced to Flee in Face of Attacks

BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraqi Christians gathered Saturday to mark Christmas in the same church where less than two months ago dozens from their beleaguered community were killed by Muslim extremists intent on driving them from Iraq.

The walls were pockmarked with bullet holes, plastic sheeting covered gaps where glass windows used to be and small pieces of dried flesh and blood remain stuck to the ceiling.

In front of the alter were photos of the dead parishioners, and twin black cassocks hung from the walls representing the two priests killed in the October bloodbath.

“No matter how hard the storm blows, love will save us,” Archbishop Matti Shaba Matouka told the congregation.

The storm has blown violently against Iraqi Christians this fall.

Gunmen stormed the Our Lady of Salvation church Oct. 31, taking more than 120 people hostage in a siege that ended with 68 people dead. Days later a string of bombings outside Christian homes and in Christian neighborhoods hammered home the threat.

Iraqi church officials canceled many Christmas celebrations like appearances by Santa Claus or evening Mass, out of fear for their parishioners’ safety after al-Qaida this week threatened more violence against them. The toned down celebrations were also a sign of respect for the suffering the community has undergone.

But many of the more than 300 people gathered Saturday at the church, now surrounded by concrete blast barriers and a phalanx of security officers, said they would not be cowed into abandoning their faith or their country. Outside the building hung a homemade sign that said the church would prosper during times of oppression.

“I love my country. I buried my parents here. I can’t leave it,” said Adiba Youssef, a 52-year-old woman who came to the morning service with her family.

“We believe in God, and he will protect us.”

Some of the parishioners said they had not bought a Christmas tree and felt little cause for joy. Laith Amir said he and his family stay home most of the time because they’re too afraid to go out. They did not purchase presents or a tree, but he said the church attack strengthened the will of many Christians.

“The church was baptized by the blood of the martyrs. It gave us more motivation to come to the church and to celebrate Christmas in spite of what has happened to us,” he said.

Christian leaders estimate 400,000 to 600,000 Christians still live in Iraq, according to a recent State Department report. At one time before the war, that number was as high as 1.4 million by some estimates.

U.N. officials estimate that about 1,000 Christian families have fled to the relative safety of northern Iraq following the church siege.

Many Christians have gone to the Kurdish city of Sulaimaniyah, 160 miles (260 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad. The three provinces that make up the Kurdish region are much safer than many other parts of Iraq. Sheat Jubran came with his three children after the church siege but felt little reason for joy Saturday.

“How can we celebrate while Christians are killed on a daily basis in Iraq? They killed our children and worshippers during prayer time, and they keep on practicing the ugliest crimes against Christians,” he said.

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Associated Press writers Bushra Juhi in Baghdad and Yahya Barzanji in Sulaimaniyah contributed to this report.

Comments (103)

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  • Con Armistead
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 4:36pm

    Islam is a totalitarian socio-political system that has intended to destroy everything that is not Islam for 1388 years.

    Read the very bad literature called the Quran and at least the relevant parts of the Sunna and you should be able to deduce that Allah is space debris and Muhammad was (or at least became) a murderously insane rapist whose crimes were covered by ‘revelations’ whether real or imagined. Islam has caused more human suffering than Marxism; and that is an impressive accomplishment of evil.

    I suppose many will now invoke Timothy McVey, who never mentioned any religiosity, or violence in the Bible which is irrelevent to the historical mayhem of Islam and does not contain a standing order to commit rape, torture, enslavement and every imaginable sort of violence against the rest of the world.

    It is the most noble part of man that desires freedom of conscience and rebels against compulsion of belief. Whatever convinces any man that he has the authority to force ideas, even good ones, on another can only be from an evil source.

    Con

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  • Bookworm
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 3:29pm

    The only peaceful Muslim is one that is pushing up grass from the root side

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    • Sledgehammer
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 3:53pm

      I agree, I think I have an idea for killing 2 birds with one stone. We need to burn off something like 4000 old nukes, to meet the standards of this start treaty, so what if we give the little rag head bastards their own mushroom shaped clouds?

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  • Mr.Nick
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 3:15pm

    Meanwhile in the US libturds are obsessed with bullying.

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  • Col. HawK
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 3:11pm

    Good will always defeat that which is ‘Evil’…one way or another, through time this will be proven.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JhbEjPNAqs

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  • o2bme
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:44pm

    So much for peace on earth today, we can’t even have peace in here. And please don’t go attacking me for just making a statement, an opinion. I won’t respond. God bless y’all and I hope you have a rest of a merry Christmas day!

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  • hiramsmaxim
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:31pm

    Sad indeed that a country was supposedly liberated actually has to work twice as hard to keep the freedom.
    If the country was more TOLERANT and would try to COEXIST with the Christian culture maybe like not blowing up churches.

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  • RickL86538
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:09pm

    Merry Christmas. Now that I have put myself on the Muslim, the religion of peace LOL, hit list. By the way I’m not even Christian. Everyone says that Islam is a peaceful religion, makes me laugh every time I hear that, so where are the Christian and Jewish suicide bombers? When is the last time you heard of Christians or Jews taking over a mosque and killing the people there? If I lived in a Muslim country I would leave as fast as possible and let them kill each other. If they came after me I would defend myself with extreme prejudice. Anyway MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR.

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  • Deda1
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:02pm

    Time to arm these Christians to the teeth and let them take care of 90% of the world’s problems. The other 10% is the Democrats and leftist and we can deal with them.

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  • TaterSalad
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:28pm

    “Americans Must Die”:

    http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/12/25/all-americans-must-die-love-somali-muslims-tysons-plant-tennessee/

    Tyson Foods will now go out of business!

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  • mtnclimberjim
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:01pm

    And to think we wasted our young men’s lives and our countries treasure for this hell hole. Same goes for the Afghanistan disaster. History will show that after all that was done in the pathetic attempt at winning the hearts and minds of ******* was a waste. Drones and cruise missiles only with air support .

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    • Passerby
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:44am

      Only 4% of the Afghans support the Taliban.

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  • mtnclimberjim
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:55pm

    AMERICANSOL’
    Please consider this a personal attack if you would like.. You are my enemy. You sir are a traitor to my country in that you conspire with the enemy. You are not a American soldier. You are a deceiver and divider. I do not have the ability or some would say the gift of being able to debate as eloquently as some. But I know truth. Therefore I am free. Common sense will prevail in the end. You will be exposed for who you are. A face to face meeting between us would be at the very least interesting.
    Merry Christmas.

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  • darlenekay
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:50pm

    And Muslims call us haters and intolerant.

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  • Uber
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:45pm

    They are such tolerant people!!!! They expect everyone to agree to everything they want, but they won’t give an inch to others. Personally I think the government should sell hunting tags for illegals and Mooslims. It would give more revenue to the government and we get rid of the problem,

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    • WILLIAM E.
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:02pm

      I agree. No pensions,no benefits just $100.00 an ear !!

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  • WILLIAM E.
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:40pm

    Again more proof of the peace loving CULT !!

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  • neverending
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:22pm

    Think it can’t eventually happen here – think again especially if we continue on the road we are on right now.

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  • spreadcommonsensenot pc
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:00pm

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY———-JESUS——-Merry Christmas to all———-and to Abrahams decendents– the elder brother…. Ishmaels decendents AND to the Son of Promise Isaac’s decendents—-(Israel and the Body of Christ)————–May the Prince of Peace Come………..

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    • Curator_JDR
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:53pm

      Amen. May humanity’s collective light bulb turn on and we understand HOW we are all brothers/sisters.
      May 2011 be a year of enlightenment.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:48am

    Unfortunately, the only way for some people to see the truth is to see it first hand. Anyone with just an ounce of common sense could see that Islamic and Muslim religion is not tolerant of anything, even their own religion.
    They kill their own because of what they call dishonoring the religion. Fathers kills daughters and call it honor killings.
    But I am afraid that some people will not believe until they see it up close and personal. Too bad for them, You just don’t have to keep hitting me up side the head with a brick to make realize that it hurts.
    It will be up to us to put a stop to it. The government still has the mentality of (can’t we all just get along). While sending us down a road of war, while preaching against it. Because if we don’t put a stop to it. Then it won’t be very long before we are the ones being chased and killed, either that or converting to Islam.
    This is coming to AMERICA, and no amount of wishing or wanting things to be different will stop it. Unless we stand up and take our country back.
    If the Muslims want Shria Law. Then they need to go back to their country.
    If the Mexicans want to celebrate Cinco De Mao then they need to go back to their country.
    If the Mexicans won’t learn English then they need to go back to their country.
    This country was founded by immigrants, but it wasn’t founded by illegal immigrants. If you break our laws then you have no place here.
    If the Muslims want honor killings then they need to go back to their country.

    But everyone have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Yes, I said it. Merry Christmas. I even put in on CNN also.

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    • zagfan
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:36pm

      Merry Christmas HeavyDuty,

      You are spot on and get it. I’ve always said, until it happens in the front yard of their home, these sympathizers will not believe what can really happen here. They are here, waiting to strike! I don’t have one ounce of faith that the government can or will protect us. When you have the Leader of a Free Nation praising the very people that are causing havoc and crisis around the world…my faith in him is zero!

      When it comes down to it…WE the People are the only ones who can take care of our selves. We can not count on anyone…so, make the Muslims as unwelcome and miserable as possible.

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    • just the facts
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:28pm

      I agree with you Heavyduty. It will take a front door issue. Some Americans are still hoping for… well I don’t know what their hoping for. Can’t figure them out. We had 911 right in front of our face and still they see the trees but not the forest. It’s a sad thing.

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  • DashRipRock
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:46am

    There are two types of people in this country.

    Those who think National Lampoons “Christmas Vacation” was a funny movie.

    And those who are forced to relive it at thier Inlaws house every two years.

    So guess which one this “Uncle Santa Claus ” is.

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  • HumbleCitizen
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:35am

    If the muslim faith reaches critical mass in the USA, then expect the same treatment of Christians (here). The only way to counteract that hatred is with the love of Christ. Pass it on before its too late. Merry Christmas everyone.

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  • burnteye86
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:35am

    Muslims will spend an eternity in the fires of Hell for their non belief that Jesus the Christ is their Lord.

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  • WISEPENNY
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:26am

    Now that’s a true dedication to the faith. It’s hard to fathom that happening in the USA, or is it?

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    • MrObvious
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:14pm

      Actually I see it as an actual demonstration of courage. Faith sure, believing comes easily to people; but, honoring that faith, visiting that site, and remaining peaceful, required something more than just faith.

      The Sharia Law fanatics (Islamic Extremists) commit violence on a daily basis, and use their faith as an excuse. No courage is required of them. They hold lives so cheaply that killing (and perhaps even dying) is not a sacrifice for them; but, they do have faith, however misguided.

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  • DashRipRock
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:24am

    Where is MR ANDERSON on this one?

    MR ANDERSON
    I will make a deal
    I will be tolerant of muslims in this country when the Muslims stop beheading Christians in thier countrys.

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:29am

      Dash…

      Amen! Calling Mr. Anderson…

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    • MR_ANDERSON
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 5:58am

      How do you guys come to the conclusion that I am supporting Islam or Muslims?

      The conclusions you are coming to about my stand on issues is like saying it raining when there is Hydrogen present. You have to have Oxygen and Hydrogen to form Water, and then you have to have Water to have Rain. You are jumping strait to saying it is raining.

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    • MR_ANDERSON
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 8:26am

      /\ /\ /\ That should read “when there is NO Hydrogen present.” /\ /\ /\

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  • Steverino
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:23am

    If this does bring into crystal clear focus the true intent of the Muslim radicals, I don’t know what will. There is only room for one religion, one God, apparently. It’s sad, and yes I would feel the same if the shoe were on the other foot.
    Merry Christmas, to our Chaldean brothers and sisters fighting the fight. And everyone else as well.
    Steve
    http://stephencharles-poppin-off.blogspot.com/

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  • Cobra Blue
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:23am

    More evidence of Mooslum tolerance. The religion of Peace. Surely the Mooslum are not biased? No!!! WAKE UP people. Do not ignore the obvious. But do ignore the media.

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    • RobertCA
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 2:58pm

      I don’t see any future for Christians in the Middle East , muslim radicals are winning & they’re trying the same thing in Europe & they’re gonna try the same thing here in the US .
      Christians in Europe should wake up & be aware & the same thing goes here , that’s why for us the ground zero mosque is a NO !

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  • snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
    Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:20am

    Iran is behind this, seeking to turn Iraq entirely into a fully Sharia state under their direct or indirect control. Soon enough, I figure this country again will descend into secular and religious violence in many areas. I hope that will not happen though.

    Also, we can guess as to which side the administration will work in support with against the ‘most dangerous of all religions – Christianity!!!’

    http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:32am

      Calling Mr_Anderson….The Mooslums are showing a bias..

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 11:39am

      Maybe these Mooslims as you like to call them hold very long grudges from the Crusades. If you actually took your bible to heart, word for word as the actual word of your God, you’d be out there murdering people too. Maybe these Mooslims are more true believers of their faith then you are to yours. Ever thought of that?

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    • Creestof
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:11pm

      More evidence that as soon as we determinined there were no remaining WMD’s, we should have packed up and left this dirtbag country to its own fate.

      A lot of fine American blood spilled for an outhouse of a country. Let’s get out and let the next dictator take over already. It is going to happen anyway…so let’s let them die for their own country and freedom.

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:13pm

      My grudge goes bact to the early 7th century and the taking of Jerusalem.

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:17pm

      Aren’t we full of hate! Why aren’t you out there killing the Muslims then? You should be out there killing every single Muslim, Homosexual and Non-believer you lay your eyes on. Do you not follow the word of the Lord?

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:30pm

      @AKMIKEUS Ahhh the personal attacks continue. I actually enjoy them because it shows that you are incapable of discussing/arguing with me on the merit of the facts presented.

      I’ll play along. Nope, I’m not gay nor have I ever had any thought or desire to be gay. I believe being homosexual is something you’re born as, so since I was born straight I’m not just going to start digging dudes. You, on the other hand, who believe it’s a choice seem to be terrified of the idea that you might be turned gay. Since you believe it’s a choice, you must believe you have the capacity to make that choice.

      Yes, I do suppose the soldier that leaked the documents in the ideology that certain Government wrongdoings should be exposed to the light of day and open to the scrutiny of the FREE citizens that which they represent. If he had any other motivations outside of that, then I don’t suppose them. The fact he bragged about being the leak discourages me from believing the more pure of the two scenarios.

      So I’m still curious as to why you defy the word of your God so much. If the law of the land should make you into a Marty, isn’t following the word of your God worth the punishment of the Earth and rewards of the Heavens?

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:36pm

      I notice there was no response to the fact that an Islamic caliph invaded and conquered Jerusalem and started the whole sorry mess in the first place. In 600 AD there weren’t any Muslims fighting anybody.. in fact, I don’t believe there were were more than few Muslims around anywhere.

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    • Conservativeman
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 12:42pm

      americansoldier, are you familiar with the history of the crusades? From you post you obviously are not. It was the muslim that was encroaching upon the eastern church, killing entire Churches, wiping out villages, enslaving Christians and kidnapping Christian pilgrims. Only after centuries of muslim advancement, muslim conquest of Christian lands did Christendom finally stand together and declare “enough”. Get your facts straight before you start spewing hollywood history and anti-christian biases. You’re a clown.

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    • Curator_JDR
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:02pm

      The time for excuse making (for Islam and for ourselves) is over. This new “Not So Grimm Fairy Tale”/South Park like cartoon makes this clear and will make you laugh. Its time to LAUGH the bay guys into submission. Merry Christmas!

      http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:17pm

      So you’re excuse is “They started it!” why not be big boys and say enough is enough, how do you mock them about being the religion of “peace and tolerance” when neither is yours!

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    • guyperram
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 1:58pm

      God will help protect them but an M16 in well trained hands will help him. These are brave people in a bad situation. They can use all the help than can get.

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 3:29pm

      “So you’re excuse is “They started it!” why not be big boys and say enough is enough, how do you mock them about being the religion of “peace and tolerance” when neither is yours!”

      -My reliigion was started by a diety, not a camel driver and he did not lift a sword against anyone. My religion seeks to convert souls, not to subjugate people but it is time to call out a vicious political movement that masquerading as a religion – not in the name of God but in the name of common sense.

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 5:16pm

      God protect these people! I wish that these people would stand up to defend themselves instead of needlessly getting slaughtered. Why don’t they arm themselves and if attacked then take them out. Even Christians have a right to defend ones and ones families lives!

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    • Iam4EnoughALREADY
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 5:50pm

      The Greatest man in history, named Jesus, had no servants, yet they called him Master. Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet he conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today.

      If man will truly follow him and his principals…..we will call that Christianity! There are many “religions” which are “man made” that start to twist the true message of God–thus allowing groups to justify actions in the name of their “religion of Christianity” Any true believer in Jesus Christ should have conviction in their heart when they commit a sin…..It tugs at you, it pulls at you…Any one can say “I’m a Christian” but can you live it!

      God Bless and Merry Christmas– life on earth is short my friends, but eternity is forever!

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    • mrcombi
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 8:04pm

      @ americansoldier
      Can you provide some evidence of recent Christian atrocities to counter the abundant amount of Muslim atrocities committed of late?
      The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies.
      How much longer would you have waited?
      Bottom line; I think you resent your Christian up bringing and it’s time to reconcile with your parents and agree to disagree with them. You’ll be a better person for it…

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on December 25, 2010 at 9:49pm

      Americansoldier. i dont care if they believe or what they believe. muslims attack us, they kill us, they deserve to die. Its time we quit trying to equate this with anything other than what it is…genocide. muslims are intent on ridding the world of anything and everything they do not want not just christians, all religions and belief structures that is not islam. i dont care if christians started it 1000 yrs ago or 5 minuteds ago. i dont want to tolerate my enemy, i dont want to understand them, all i want is them dead.geez its not that hard if people have any brains, balls and self preservation instinct, they will get off thid ‘hearts and minds, give peace a chance kumbyya bulls**** and kill them, ALL OF THEM before they kill us.

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    • TikeSissy
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 12:07am

      I don’t mean to give a bible leason, but the door on the ark is about to close.Isa 24:5 For the earth has been defiled under its inhabitants, because they have transgressed the Torot, changed the law, broken the everlasting covenant. Footnotes: 1Torot – plural of Torah, teaching. 2Jer. 23:36. 3This is the only reason, according to all Scriptures, why the earth shall be burned in the day of judgment – see also 13:9, 13:11, 26:21, 66:24, Mic. 5:15, Zeph. 1:2-18.
      Isa 24:6 Therefore a curse shall consume the earth, and those who dwell in it be punished. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth shall be burned, and few men shall be left. The word Curse in v. 6 is Strongs Hewbrew H423 which means ALAH, G-d uses his enemies to judge his people. Guess what, you may want to rethink that rapture plan. Perhaps, even want to read all of Isa 24.

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    • MR_ANDERSON
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 2:57am

      COBRA BLUE,

      I never said Muslims were not showing bias. Why don’t you go back to the other thread and read my response. I doubt that you nor anyone else can defend your actions.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dutch-detain-12-somalis-on-terror-suspicions/

      I would like to think that I am biased in only one way, that being…I am Christian. If you have faith in a religion, or for that matter faith that there is no god, you are biased in that belief, because we can not prove or disprove with logic and reason that there is a god. My thought and belief in God, and that Jesus, his son, came and died for our sins is a biased thought.

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    • charleshammermartel
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 3:20am

      AmericanSoldier
      Learn history before saying or do something that make you look like a fool. Look up charles martel, was born in modern day France. Muslims invaded spain in the darkages and many other country. Look up Val Tepes he lived Romanian in 1431. If christian didnt fight back there will be no western civilization at all. If it wasnt for the Crusades the world would be Mooslims. look up History. because true history doesnt lie.

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    • Deuteronomy22
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 9:43am

      So under Saddam they were safe so long as they kept their mouths shut politically and with the new freedom we shoved up their @sses they are not. Saddam was a brutal despot but this is a brutal culture that needed a despot to keep all of the inter-religious animosity contained. The neocons will surely burn in hell right along with Saddam for all the innocent deaths caused by our oil mongering, military industrial complex (Halliburton) Bush/Cheney regime.

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:00am

      Americansoldier@ Are you out of your ever loving mind. Retaliation for the CRUSADES? It shows that they are more faithful to their religion. The last Crusades were over 700 years ago and it was to drive the Muslims out of Jerusalem after they invaded it and overthrew the Christian rulers. Anyone who believes or even insinuates that somehow attacking and killing civilians because of something that happened hundreds of years ago is somewhere a demonstration of their deep belief is disgusting and will go to any length to justify the actions of murderous scum and are scum themselves.
      I am a disabled vet and retired from the U.S. Army after 20 years. Do not try to use your possible past service as an pass from criticism from your perverted views of justice and constant excuses for Muslim extremism with me. A maggot is a maggot.

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    • NapoHill15
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:07am

      American Soldier . . . your view point is very welcome here. There is much to be learned from you by the good people that come to fill their cup here and to share what they have to provide. You have a solid liberal understanding of things . . . Your historical context is twisted well to fit a template of anti-Christianity and anti-American thought. Tell us more . . . Share with us your knowledge of our enemy, of how they think and what they aspire to.

      Tell us of the Tree of Knowledge that you meet under so that we may go there and embrace the ideas that are contrived.

      But along our journey, know that you’re words are charged while having no continuity to the singular truth; you’re living a life of blindness thinking you can see because you have clarity in the darkness of your mind. Step out, look around; feel the love . . . But maybe, maybe bring your brain bucket and flak jacket . . . just in case. You may get out there on one of those limbs and hurt yourself . . . or something.

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:05am

      AmericanSoldier, your viewpoint is very explicitly NOT welcome here. Express it, and everyone here will call you an idiot or worse. You can feel the hate (not love) and read the hatred not only of you, but of, to make a guess, 95% of the world’s population (Muslims, progressives, Christians who believe in a country that supports everyone not just the rich, Europeans, Russians, Chinese etc). Some are even calling for war and genocide based, not on the content of a person’s character, but by inclusion in a hated group.

      Here’s a tip. To be accepted here your posts must include one or both of these: a) hatred of people in any of the groups above, or, b) fear of awful events foretold by the profits of doom.

      “Blessed are the peacemakers” is not a Biblical quote you’ll find on this website.

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    • Andrew.TX.
      Posted on December 26, 2010 at 4:19pm

      @AmericanSoldier Islam has killed an estimated 270 million “non believers” in it’s 1400 some odd years of existence…

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