Ironic How Politics Have Changed: Ron Paul Calls out Harry Reid for Fed Flip-Flop
- Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:50am by
Becket Adams
- Print »
- Email »
The GOP-controlled House voted last week 327-98 to pass “Audit the Fed,” a bill sponsored by longtime Fed nemesis, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX). The legislation gives Congress greater scrutiny over the Federal Reserve.
However, although the bill’s passage is a great victory for the Texas congressman, everyone (himself included) is fairly certain it will die once it makes its way to Senate Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV).
What’s funny is that, as mentioned before on TheBlaze, Sen. Reid was all for auditing the Fed before he was against it — and Rep. Paul called him out for it during an interview with CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo.
“Let me talk about your bill, ‘Audit the Fed,’ it faces resistance in the Senate where Democrat leaders vowed not to put it to a vote. What are the chances of it becoming law?” Bartiromo asked.
“Not all that great,” Rep. Paul responded, “But I think what’s interesting if anybody really cares about how things are working here, they ought to go back and look at a speech that Senator Reid gave in 1995 where he was bragging about how strongly he supported the position of auditing and reigning in the Federal Reserve.”
“It’s ironic how politics have changed. The American people want the vote, and that’s how we got the floor on the vote last week. 75 percent to 85 percent of the people want transparency,” he added.
Watch the discussion [via CNBC]:
Monetary policy decisions are “very political,” Rep. Paul continued.
“We have an obligation and a right to know what the Fed is doing in secret when they bail out their friends and bail out the banks, and get involved in overseas financing, as they are prepared to do in Europe right now,” he added.
Bartiromo then questioned Rep. Paul about his longstanding crusade: ending the Fed.
“If you end the Fed, what’s the replacement?” Bartiromo asked.
“You don’t have to replace it with anything, but if you read the book [‘End the Fed’] carefully, I don’t claim they should be ended in one day or two. The Fed will end itself when they destroy the money and we’ll have to have a new system and that time will come,” Rep. Paul responded.
“So I just want people to have options and be able to use something else other than just using this monopoly money run by a government monopoly where they have total control,” he said, adding that politicians and bankers are “addicted to the drug of easy money and easy credit.”
Follow Becket Adams (@BecketAdams) on Twitter
Front page photo source: goldnewsweekly.com, the AP contributed to this report.
Comments (89)
Sign In To Post Comments! Sign In
Popular Stories
Does Misstated Marathon Claim Prove Paul Ryan Is Dishonest? (POLL) 696 Comments
Paper Details Obama Admin’s Alleged Secret Note Sent to Iran: If Israel Attacks, We Won’t Get Involved 524 Comments
Roseanne Barr: Most Billionaires ‘Violent Pedophiles’ & ‘Heartless’ Cocaine Addicts 354 Comments
‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 352 Comments
This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 343 Comments
Faith
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 343 Comments
Pakistani Muslim Cleric Accused of Framing Disabled Christian Girl in Koran-Burning Case Read More- ‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 352 Comments
Meet the Controversial German Imam Accused of Brutally Beating His Wife & Pushing Sharia Law Read More
‘Self-Proclaimed Messiah’ & Unification Church Leader the Rev. Sun Myung Moon Has Died — Here’s His Life Story Read More
Business
- President Obama Issues Major ‘Green Energy’ Executive Order 261 Comments
- Germany’s Upcoming Court Ruling Will be Huge for the EU Read More
Ford Looks to Beat Toyota for Best-Selling Car in 2012 With This Model 148 Comments
Bernanke & QE3: Here’s What You Need to Know Read More- ‘Extortion’: Why Did the Labor Department ‘Drop the Hammer’ on Oregon Farmers? 302 Comments
Technology
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 343 Comments
‘TaserDrone’: Hackers Weaponize Quadcopter With Actual ‘Shocking’ Technology Read More
Ever Heard of the Wild ‘Burning Man’ Festival in the Middle of the Nev. Desert? Here’s Your Primer Read More
Stanford Develops Technology ‘Better Than Steroids’ for Athlete Recovery Read More
Have You Pretended to Know What ‘the Cloud’ Is? You’re Not Alone Read More
Submitting your tip... please wait!
RayOne
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 3:32pmAs a senator he is protected from prosecution for slander. The Senate should denounce his behavior.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:43pmI hope Ron Paul runs third party to give the electorate an actual choice.
Report Post »Romney=Obama, rhetoric may be different but in policy they are identical.
To those of you who disagree with Paul’s foreign policy, how will we protect your precious holy land if we are bankrupt?
To those of you who believe Romney will reverse the economy, how is that possible if Romney supports TARP, the Fed and QE?
Criticism of Paul supporters for “worshiping” one man is common. Name me one other politician who has consistently expressed his views despite being unpopular for thirty years! Name one politician who warned us of the effects of the Fed and the housing bubble years before? Name me one politician who warned us of blow back and the dangers of intervention before 9/11?
You cannot because Paul is truly one of a kind, he has warned us of our mistakes and the inevitable consequences. Most importantly he is the only one that states the Constitution is the remedy.
He was Tea Party before Tea Party was popular.
TRILO
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:45pmWhen Ron Paul is no longer in the House of Representatives this idea will fade away into the round circle bin. Both parties, Romney and Obama can not wait to get him out because they want to continue giving bailouts and behind the scenes sweetheart deals to wall street and the corporate whores. Notice how nothing is happening on the LIBOR scandal? Intentional and coordinated manipulation of interest rates across the globe, sanctions by the federal reserve all to benefit the big wall street firms and banks… AND NOTHING from the banking regulators or our so called leaders. Fraud at it’s absolute worst, yet one can hear the crickets chirping on the floors of Congress. Oh…. that is right, they have left for their August break.
Laws and ethics is so yesterday. We are now a country run by men and banks. Something our founding fathers warned about.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:05pmVery well put TRILO, I say this as deafening cheers are heard.
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:44pmBlaze please stop posting Ron Paul Articles. We finally start to get the baby to sleep and you slam the door. The Tea Party and Republicans know that Paul’s people are going to write in Paul so Obama will win. Were OK with that. Just stop putting the articles up so they will stop climbing out of the wood work and we do have to hear how Paul is going to save the World from some pot smoken copy and past loud mouth.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:51pmdb321 DISSECTED…
FEAR:
Blaze please stop posting Ron Paul Articles.
REASON FOR FEAR:
Anti-Paul propagandists HATE TRUTH… especially the kind of truth that sprinkles a lil’ sunshine on the FAKE-conservative gop. They want the American voter STUPID, ANGRY and COMPLETELY OBEDIENT. Truth has an annoying way of breaking that spell.
ALINSKYITE NAME-CALLING:
“baby”
FALSE COUPLING:
“The Tea Party and Republicans”
TRUTH:
The Constitutional Libertarian Tea Party HAS NOTHING TO DO with the republican party.
LIE:
“write in Paul so Obama will win.”
TRUTH:
We can CHECK HIS NOMINATED NAME, unless the LEFTIST GOP CHEAT-nominates LEFTIST Romney, to REELECT Obama, same as when they elected him with the same scam.
FALSE PRONOUNS:
“We’re”
FALSE PRONOUNS OBJECTIVE:
Fake-conservatives will strategically (and incorrectly) apply pronouns like “we” and “us” to describe “conservatives” and “tea partiers”… when IN REALITY, the propagandist is NEITHER.
ALINSKYITE NAME-CALLING:
Report Post »“climbing out of the wood work” “pot smoken copy and past loud mouth.”
Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 1:29amWe need to stop focusing on Ron Paul! Gary Johnson 2012! hahahah….Just had to.
Report Post »kevinthewriter
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:38pmThis election is about removing the socialist from the White House. The only way to do that is to vote for Romney. I prefer Ron Paul, but I’ve come to the realization that writing him in is the same as voting for Obama. Let’s get Oblamer out and start working on a Tea Party candidate for the next election.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:15pmkevinthewriter DISSECTED…
FALSE:
“This election is about removing the socialist from the White House.”
TRUTH:
This election is about removing the SOCIALISM from our government. This include both SOCIALIST Obama and SOCIALIST Romney.
LIE:
“The only way to do that is to vote for Romney.”
TRUTH:
Actually, just the opposite, as 08 HAS PROVEN. The “better evil” strategy IS A PROVEN FAILURE and if it is tried AGAIN… the gop will have just REELECTED Obama, same as they elected him in the first place.
DOUBTFUL:
“I prefer Ron Paul”
TRUTH:
ANTI-Paul folks will add a line like this to FALSELY imply a rational PRO-Paul person… that has simply resigned themselves to political “realities.”
FALSE:
“but I’ve come to the realization that writing him in is the same as voting for Obama.”
TRUTH:
This propaganda is two-pronged. One, it FALSELY implies that Romney IS the republican nominee. And two, it FALSELY implies that voting your conscience will reelect Obama… when the GOP WILL HAVE REELECTED HIM, IF THEY CHEAT-NOMINATE Romney.
PERPETUAL FAILURE TACTIC:
Report Post »“get Oblamer out and start working on a Tea Party candidate for the next election.”
PERPETUAL FAILURE TACTIC OBJECTIVE:
This propaganda is designed to ADJUST the target’s expectations and pressure them to look PAST this election and TO the next “glorious victory”… that NEVER comes. The same BS was used in 08 – “Vote McCain NOW, and we‘ll get ’em in 2012!”
az11697
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:22pmAnd it is really that simple.
TEA knows we would not have a viable candidate this time. All we can do it take more of the House and establish a beachhead in the Senate. Two more years and TEA will have a majority in the house and will be a force unto themselves leaving the RHINOs and progressives behind.
Unless Obama gets another term, then we need to look at a different plan altogether.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on August 4, 2012 at 7:09amYou want to remove one socialist and replace him with another socialist?
Report Post »YA! That makes about as much sense as it would have made to replace Stalin with Hitler. It ain’t gonna end well either way.
Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:38pmThe American Dream (full length) – what is… “money”…
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM
Wartface
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:13pmThe Federal Reserve… Is a privately owned company that Woodrow Wilson and his Democratically controlled Congress, which had a super majority, gave exclusive rights to print our currencie, set our interest rates and control our economy. They also made sure that NO US citizen or elected official, including the President, had the authority to audit their books. No one knows who owns the Federal Reserve and Wilson and his boys made sure that even asking who owns it is out of line and not a question that they have to answer… All of this is in their operating agreement and authorized by Congress and was signed into law by President Wilson. They also made sure to not allow Congress or the President tell them who to hire to be Chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Ronald Reagan wanted to put his own guy in as the Chairman of the FR but… Mr President, you are out of line here. You Sir do not have that authority. They explained to him that there contract says that the board members of the FR will offer you 5 qualified people that they have preapproved and we will only allow you to pick one of those 5 people.
Giving up the right for Congress to print money, set interest rates and to have that much control of our economy was and is to this day… UnConstitutional!
Report Post »Vegasdad702
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:25pmMan, I just LOVE the straight talk from Ron Paul! It bugs me that there is this NASTY riff among like minded conservatives about Paul and his supporters. Don’t play the hate game, as it is just that a hate game. RP is a Constitutionalist period. I love Glenn Beck, and you know what, I don’t care that these men have different opinions on some things. I keep the good and chuck the bad. We can disagree on some things people. STOP ACTING LIKE PROGRESSIVES AND STOP SPEWING HATE! We love our COUNTRY, we love FREEDOM, we love LIBERTY! PERIOD! I am a proud RP delegate from Nevada, and I know it was always about the message, not the position or office. It would be nice, but its about us as individuals to once again, value the TRUE principles of LIBERTY! Be kind to each other, were brothers in arms after all. God Bless.
Report Post »All Pro
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:28pmRon Paul and Dennis Kucinich stand virtually alone in the House of Representatives in opposition to the latest round of sanctions the U.S. will impose on Iran in response to its unsubstantiated nuclear weapons program. “When you put on sanctions on a country, it’s an act of war and that’s what this is all about,” said Paul. “I think this bill would be better named Obsession with Iran Act 2012,” he added.
Following political pressure by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, sanctions were approved and now head to the White House for Obama’s signature. The sanctions target the Iranian oil industry and Chinese and Iraqi banks. Obama said in a statement that existing sanctions will be expanded “by making sanctionable the purchase or acquisition of Iranian petrochemical products.”
You can Google entire speech. Brilliant as always.
Oh, in the mean time Russia has installed ICBMs in Cuba and moved some of it‘s bombers there and they’re building a navel base.
Ron Paul is right but none of you will understand until DC and NYC are glowing in the dark!
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:59pm…i want to thank the blaze for their rock solid support for Dr. Ron Paul and his views during his presidential bid…
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:00pm@Cykonas: The correct interpretation is that once somthing is done, it cannot be undone. It cannot be pretended away.
“I am certain that he would not let a vacuum develop in any strategic area.”
I am pleased that you are certain. But Ron Paul doesn’t seem to agree with you. Using the spirit of his statement that he would not end the Fed overnight does not reassure me, and is a far cry from a statement from Ron Paul himself saying exactly that. He seems to be saying precisely the opposite to me.
Now having said that. Ron Paul’s faults (in my opinion) are not deal breakers. He was the only cantidate that saw clearly how bad things are. He was the only cantidate the contemplated solutions dramatic enough and severe enough to actually halt this slide into entropy. Just like Glenn says Obama is taking us off the cliff at 100mph, Romney will take us off the cliff at 55mph.
Report Post »I like Ron Paul, and I have listened to many of his speeches on You Tube. I am not however a disciple. But….I will tell you this, If the choice was between Romney and Ron Paul I would be voting for Ron Paul.
JaneQPublic
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:16pmYou do have the choice between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. Write in Ron Paul and there you go! Thatch hat I am going to do and that is what MANY Americans are planning. In fact everyone I know is planning on writing in Ron Paul for president. Remember though it is the electoral college who’s vote actually counts. Many of them are actually leaning towards electing Paul. RON PAUL 2012!
Report Post »RANGER1965
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:30pmI’m not writing in Ron Paul. My business will not be able to take 4 more years of Obama. Although I am not happy with Romney, he is the cantidate, and I will vote for him.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:05pm@RANGER1965
“My business will not be able to take 4 more years of Obama.”
How will LEFTIST, SOCIALIST, PROGRESSIVE, CONSTITUTION-SHREDDING, CHICKENHAWKING Romney be ANY different?
“Although I am not happy with Romney”
THEN DON’T BEND OVER FOR HIM.
FALSE:
Report Post »“he is the candidate”
TRUTH:
He is NOT the republican candidate. But if the LEFTIST GOP CHEAT-nominates him in Tampa – to REELECT OBAMA, then you have Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode, TO STOP THE GOP FROM REELECTING OBAMA.
cykonas
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:49pmRanger, I’ll start with a concession. Certain was too strong a word. I am confident that RP would not knowingly put the U.S. in an unsecure position. You are correct, though, I can’t be certain. I also understand the doubts of you and others. RPs’ form of libertarianism is foreign to most in our country. It‘s a shame it’s that way, but it is.
I understand your trepidation as a business owner. I won’t try to find fault with those fears. President Obama is, without a doubt, the worst President of the modern era with regard to business and employment. It’s beyond me to advise anyone to disregard their fears. All I can tell you is that I’ve never been able to vote for a candidate that I philosophically disagree with. Mitt Romney falls squarely in that description for me. He a progressive. I can’t, and won’t, support him. But I would tell you that regardless of the outcome of the election, you, your family, and probably your business will survive. It may be tough, but no one can kill the USA in 4 years.
I believe in dealing with situations from a position of strength whenever possible. Strength, in my opinion, cannot be found in either the R or D party. Either party would spit on any and all of us to enhance their own power. They have sufficiently proven that to me over the last 39 years that I’ve been voting. Peace.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:44pmThe fed gave us QE one two and soon they’ll try QE three,all to no avail because the debt is too great and the pigs in DC feeding at the trough won’t cut spending dramatically.The anti Paul people seem to think if he were president he would disarm our military and we would be invaded and destroyed,now who’s irrational?
We won’t be destroyed from some foreign enemy, our vaunted federal government is doing a fine job of destroying our republic all on their own.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:42pmOne of the warm suns creeping up from the horizon of our bleak Central Government / PRIVATE Banker Planned world….
New alternative currency – Summit County Mountain Hours
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8DVvpWO-QI
Triplescrew
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:34pmRon Paul is still around?
http://www.gainsense.com/2012/08/romney-reid-rhetoric-and-taxes.html
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:53pmYup, Triplescrew. I myself almost forgot because of the MS(fake-conservative)M BLACKOUT (election fraud). But the STATE AFTER STATE AFTER STATE AFTER STATE BALLS-TO-THE-WALL ESTABLISHMENT GOP DELEGATE CHEATING… reminds me of Paul’s existence every day.
Ron Paul 2012! TAMPA! NO EXCUSES!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:45pmBROTHER: anarchists in Tampa wearing Ron Paul hoodies ??
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:11pmAlinskyite smearing is a SURE SIGN of DESPERATE PANIC, barber2.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:08pm“The Fed will end itself when they destroy the money and we’ll have to have a new system and that time will come,”
=========================
That has already happened though.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:25am@Joey,
I understand your point. I think it describes how the libertarian leaning folks don’t like “conservatives” that support Romney. I think the rabidness of Paul supporters is that there is a consistency of beliefs from what they believe to who they support. I won’t speak for everyone, but it baffles me how I see all of the conservative posters on here who are supporting Romney…blindly because he has an R before his name. It’s just stupid. If you believe something, don’t compromise. But most of all, don‘t try to tell me that Romney isn’t who he says he is.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:54am@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
You have no idea how ridiculous your whole comment is, do you?
For starters, if you can only support one politician, you have some serious problems right off the bat. If you support 100% of what any politician believes, you have just multiplied your list of problems.
There’s a lot more but I doubt you can even comprehend that much.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:03pmRothbardian_in_the_Cleve… dude… NEVER, EVER concede that a lie is the truth. Ron Paul supporters ARE NOT “rabid” (an Alinskyite smear). “Rabid” is blind. “Rabid” is unthinking. “Rabid” is zombie-like illogical allegiance to that which only harms you. THIS DESCRIBES “BETTER EVIL” VOTERS TO… A… T!!!!!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:23pm@qp
Oh qp and your dumb comments.
So you are saying that following your principles and sticking to them is wrong. Its not like we have not be for the guy for years. Its not our fault you people are too dumb to understand what is going on.
Ron Paul has talked about the FED and inflation for years. He said it would drive up the price of goods.
Oil up
Food up
Everything else up.
He talked about the housing bubble and that it would crash.
It crashed.
He talked about our foreign policy bring more attacks on us.
9-11
Yes keep ignoring the one guy with sense. People like you QP are the reason we have 16 trillion in debt, 120 trillion in unfunded liabilities, we are in constant war, and our freedoms are being taken constantly.
Do us a favor, find a good ice chunk and float off.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:19amIt‘s hypocrisy more obvious than Tan Mom’s tan…
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:09amThe MSM paints a picture of the Republicans as the party of “no,” when we know it is quite the opposite.
Report Post »I wish the RNC or one of the PAC’s would come out with a commercial showing how the Democratic-controlled Senate keeps refusing to take votes on Bills and even passing a budget.
Harry Reid is 1/3 of the problem with this administration.
USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:31amAlso I hear a lot of folks saying the Republicans should be willing to compromise more. When you have a battle between socialism and capitalism, there can be no compromise.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:31amPsssst… republicans… a lil’ helpful hint (just between us)….
When you CLAIM Ron Paul supporters are insane, rude, rabid, name-callers (without a shred of proof or evidence)… try to refrain from attempting to illustrate it… with insane, rude, rabid, name-calling.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:48pmBrother : I can prove the “ rude” just by reading the insulting comments laced with ” moron, idiot,” etc. The insanity part is harder to prove. Nowadays one can’t prove anyone is nuts until they do something violent. Tampa ?
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 8:11pm@Barber
Report Post »From my perspective it is Romney supporters that have been much more antagonistic. Paul supporters are constantly called crazy, tin foil hat types for wanting to return to the Constitution!
I understand it goes both ways, Paul supporters and Ne Cons can be equally dis respectful. In my experience though it is the Romney supporters that fall back on ad hominem arguments instead of addressing the points made by Paulinistas. I think most Romney supporters get defensive when faced with the fact that their candidate is a progressive and take it out on the messengers.
Not to mention the dozens of physical/verbal assaults Paul supporters have been subjected to by Romney supporters during the primaries.
USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:44amNeoconservative;
designating or of an intellectual, political movement that evolved in the late 1970s in reaction to liberal and leftist thought, advocating individualism (senses & ), traditional moral standards, anti-Communist foreign policy, etc.
How did this word get bastardised into a slur?
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:01amPerhaps because that’s not what neoconservatism represent anymore in the post-Bush era?
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:26amIt’s kinda like being called a racist, it doesn’t pack a punch at all.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:32amLet me know when Websters changes the definition.
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:12pmWell seeing as the actions of neoconservatism are essentially big-government totalitarianism from the right, I don’t exactly know why any self-professed “conservative” would be particularly excited about being labeled as such in the first place.
Think about it. What did George Bush (and his political buddies) do to reinforce the ideas of a smaller, less invasive federal government? The only thing I can think of is the tax cuts. Other than that, he:
1) Expanded federal spending on the blueprint for socialized medicine that is Medicare
2) Expanded spending on a bloated and unnecessarily centralized Department of Education
3) Started multiple wars under the guise of “spreading democracy” in an area of the world that has no desire for democratic reform, all at the cost of billions of dollars and thousands of lives
4) Brought about the first bank bailout and the early stages of the TARP program
5) Created the most blatant breach of the 4th Amendment in history – you may better know it as the “Patriot” Act
Shall I continue? Basically, what it boils down to is that people who claim to be real conservatives should be horrified if they get slapped with the “neoconservative” label, as it is representative of a political school that has absolutely nothing to do with the limited-government principles they supposedly espouse.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:43pmUSPATRIOT101
Maybe it will change when you and Billy Krystal quit calling for wars of aggression. Neoconservatives are the slime of the earth. They are just as bad as libs, but they want more damn wars. What kind of idiot wants more war? A neoconservative is no American patriot as he bost he is, he is a wolf who wants death and destruction anywhere in the world were someone else has the the nerve to disagree with their people getting blown up. Every damn war after ww2 was only to furthur the military industerial complex. Maybe you neocons should have listened to Eisenhowers farewell address more closely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:46pm@DC Just to let you know, I’m not going to read your post. lmao, you really put some effort into I can tell. lol
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:25pmStay classy, USPatriot.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:42amIt’s so great to have this man as a republican Presidential candidate. I voted Peroutka (Constitution Party) in 04 and Baldwin (Constitution Party) in 08, BUT I AM HAPPY to help out the republicans this go ’round… IF… ONLY IF… Ron Paul is nominated in Tampa!
Don’t let me down republicans! We need to chuck Soetoro!
Report Post »M13
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:51amSo Brother what you have done for going on 12 years is throw your vote into the toilet. You have just admitted to everyone is that you aren’t that smart. Good for you.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:04am@ohBrother
Report Post »You allllmost showed some independent thought for just a split second there, then, *poof* it was gone and the Paul-botics took control, once again.
USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:08amTypical paulbot. Why would Ron Paul change his party affiliation and the call anyone out for doing a flip flop. He’s not a republican. Why isn’t this considered dishonest?
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:16amFunny thing, M13, about my “wasted” vote and your “better evil” vote… seems in 08, the results of the two WERE IDENTICAL. Well… correction… at least I still have my soul, pride, dignity and conservative cred. And while my BOOTS are dirty from fighting… your KNEES are dirty from surrender.
Please learn from your mistakes, friend.
Ron Paul 2012! TAMPA! NO EXCUSES! NONE!!!!!!!
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:31amWhat ever Brother just run on down and throw that vote away.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:58amA vote is never wasted. If you have principles, you will vote your conscience, you will not hold your nose, that way when all is said and done, and Obama is re-elected, you can hold your head high and say, I tried my best to do the right thing by voting for a Constitutionalist, but there were too many that wanted socialism instead. Romney and Obama are both progressives, which makes them both socialists.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 1:24pmVoting for mccain was a wasted vote. we need to quit being so wasteful. Liberty anyone?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:52pmWe are all waiting for the “ show” you guys will give us in Tampa which is the reason you have been running all of this Ron Paul mess. Anarchist cover-up. Distance yourself from the Democrats. Just like Obama is trying to do with the OWS. He owns it all. And we know it.
Report Post »Aslan
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:33pm@M13: Obviously it is only smart to blindly vote for the Republican. Voters who think for themselves are dangerous.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:49pm@Brother
Report Post »Thank you for not voting for Bush II and John McCain….You are wiser than I
cykonas
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:15pm@WCP: In Re: A vote is never wasted.
Exactly! Isn’t is scary how many Americans have bought into that meme. Party ideologues on both sides seem incapable of understanding freedom. Peace.
Report Post »Hrothgar
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:22amWell the bill is right piece of legislation to have, but you won’t see it being enacted into law while Reid is running the Senate. The Fed is about as useful as box of dog sh#t. The thing should be dissolved and the power to control and regulate currency should be left in the hands of congress, not some cloak and dagger Mickey Mouse operation. Not sure why Las Vegas elects that tool every time he’s up for re-election. You think the city with the highest unemployment rate in the state would go “Hey his policies aren’t working”, nope they just get the welfare checks and go quietly back to the housing projects.
Report Post »Aslan
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:35pmAt least a box of dog sh#t doesn’t cause massive fluctuations and instability in the economy.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:19amI love it every time I hear sanity on monetary policy no matter who it from. It is like music to my ears.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:12amLet the Democrats vote it down. They‘ll have to explain to the American people why they don’t want it audited. That’s not going to be easy.
I have to alert you Paulbots – this is not going to help 0bama get reelected. Sorry.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:37amThey won’t have to vote it down. At least not before the election. Reid will never let the bill get anywhere near the floor of the Senate for a vote. So none of the Senators will have to go on the record for or against the bill prior to the election.
And, I‘m willing to wager there were a ton of D’s and quite a few progressive R’s in the House that knew that Reid would sit on the bill. So they voted for the bill though normally they probably would not have. Now they can go home for their campaign season and proudly claim that they voted “yes” to audit the Fed. Big heroes!
It’s a game, QP, it’s a game. And we are the pawns. Don’t be fooled. The only way out is a boycott of both establishment parties. Peace.
Report Post »KC1
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:09pm@QP
Really its the Paul supporters that want Obama re elected? That statement shows you have absolutely no understanding of the Liberty movement. If any thing the support of a Progressive RINO like Romney is what will secure Obamas re election. The reason Romney cant drum up more than a few hundred people at a rally is because he is not a Tea candidate and does not excite the base. It is you progressive RINOs that have handed the election to Obama not us.
Remember Ron Paul is the grandfather of the Tea Party, Beck and all the other establishment GOP got involved after it was already in full swing. The Tea Party/Liberty movement was originally against bail outs, the Fed, over regulation and high taxes which have been Pauls talking points for thirty years!
QP you are not Tea Party and it is like minded people who have secured Obamas reelection by bending over and letting the GOP shove Romney where the sun dont shine and then thanking them for it. Do not call us Obama supporters if your candidates policies are mirror images of Obamas policies. If you support Romney you are the progressive and an advocate of Big Govt quite the opposite with Paul supporters who believe in Small Govt and Free Markets.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:59amwe either expose why the bankers were dealt with harshly in the past or we allow currency competition and they lose their power when they can’t send cueballs to attack us for it.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:57amCheck out Harry Reid’s tax returns and maybe one could see who is paying him off. We already know organized crime and gambling have him under contract, probably the Fed does as well.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:12amHave a feeling there is much to investigate in this administration. Am sure the future history books will have chapters about the corruption and hidden influences going on in America right now. Of course that does depend on WHO will be writing those American history books! Nobama 2012.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:10pm@RANGER1965- You can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
Ranger, I’ve never understood this aphorism being used in cases like this. Does it mean that once a person or a country or an organization has chosen a particular course of action that it can never be changed? That’s how I interpret it. And that’s absolutely false. People, organizations and countries change their directions all the time.
It may be applicable in some other areas. One example might be the decision to launch nuclear weapons. But in terms of a country changing foreign policy, renegotiating treaties, extending or contracting diplomatic relations I don’t think it applies at all.
As to Ron Pauls’ position on non-intervention I am certain that he would not let a vacuum develop in any strategic area. As he said in the interview for this article, “the Fed can’t be shut down in a day or two”, he would approach troop withdrawals, base closings, treaty renegotiation, etc in the same manner. He is a wise and practical man.
In some cases where a vacuum does develop please remember that these other countries are sovereign and they have both the right and responsibility to defend themselves. If they need specific help they can ask for it at any time.
I’ve read many of your posts and you seem a rational man. You may never support Ron Paul, but please consider how you choose to characterize him. Neither he, nor the vast majority of his supporters, are kooks. Peace.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 9:52amNeocon assault on Dr. Paul begins in
Report Post »3
2
1
RANGER1965
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:13amI doubt many on the Blaze would condemn him for wanting to end the Fed. I think most people’s objection to Dr. Paul was primarily an isolationist type of foreign policy.
Stil, in my opinion most of the angry energy generated on this site against him had more to do with rabid supporters of Ron Paul, than Ron Paul himself.
If Romney were smart, he would put Ron Paul in his cabinet and let him go after the Fed like an attack dog.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:22amI agree with RANGER1965. Most sane people do not disagree with Paul most things. It is usually just a few of his policy that some people disagree with.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:26amNobody dislikes Ron Paul, they usually dislike the weird obsessive Paul stalkers that hate everything but Paul, especially the ones that repeat the same phrases such as “neocons” and “sheeple”.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:27am@Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Report Post »Where you make your big mistake is in thinking other people are like you Paulbots. You worship ONE man and one man alone. You feel that you have to attack everything anybody else does or says. Normal people just don’t do things that way.
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:27amWhat makes you think Romney mr wall street would want the Fed who’s doing “a good job” reigned in by dr Paul?
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:28am@ranger, “I have always given it as my decided opinion that no nation had a right to inter-meddle in the internal concerns of another; and that, if this country could, consistent with its engagements, maintain a strict neutrality and thereby preserve peace”. George Washington – Letter to James Monroe, August 25, 1796
“Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. …The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest”. George Washington – Farewell Address, September 17, 1797
“Indulging no passions which trespass on the rights or the repose of other nations, it has been the true glory of the United States to cultivate peace by observing justice, and to entitle themselves to the respect of the nations at war by fulfilling their neutral obligations with the most scrupulous impartiality”. James Madison (1751-1836) First Inaugural Address – March 4, 1809
My ardent desire is to keep the United States free from political connections with every other country, to see them independent of all and under the influence of none. George Washington (Letter to Patrick Henry, October 9, 1795)
The founders even wrote letters to Switzerland calling them our sister nation, You can even see them talking about Switzerland in the federalist papers
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:30amNeocon!! lol i preffer updated slurs but ya gotta love the classics.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:36am@Ranger1965
I can respect you disagreeing with Paul’s foreign policy however at least get it right instead of continueing the Saul Alinsky type spin … he does not have a policy of isolationism, it is a policy of non-interventionism which was first described by George Washington in his farewell address where he said – “The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.
Thomas Jefferson also stated the same belief in his inaugural address with “peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.”
So if you believe Ron Paul is an isolationalist then I guess you also believe Washington and Jefferson were as well … if that is the cae then I think you will have a home with either the Republican pro-war progressives or the Democrate Pro-war progressives… they are two sides of the same coin.
In any case stop lying about RP’s position, if you want to delude yourself that is fine.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:36amRon Paul 2012 !!!
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:39am@American Soldier (Separated)
What makes you think 0bama would?
Those are your choices, you know. Romney or 0bama. Not Ron Paul and not Achmed the dead terrorist. Just Romney and 0bama.
Report Post »Hrothgar
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:47amRanger1965: I agree that there tends to be a lot of hostility towards the fanatic Paul supporters. I don’t like the fanatics they are pretty creepy. I wouldn’t call it an isolation policy, but more of an anti-imperialism policy, at least that’s how it appears to me, I could be wrong.
Report Post »If Romney does put Paul in his staff, we would see a lot of good come from this, but my gut feelings is that Romney would rather put Paul in a nursing home than on his cabinet. I still don’t have much trust for Mitt, but then again I don’t trust anyone very easily.
Gonzo
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:54amBingo Joey.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:09amOooops. Way off, RANGER1965. Sorry to be gruff, but TRUTH is EXACTLY what is needed in our rather… uncertain times. “Many on the Blaze” COULD CARE LESS about the Fed. FOX and Clearchannel DIDN’T SAID BOO ABOUT IT, until the LONE VOICE of Ron Paul explained what it was. Now, they‘ll run a token lil’ story here and a token lil’ story there JUST TO KEEP CREDIBILITY.
“Most people’s objection to Dr. Paul“ IS NOT ”primarily an isolationist type of foreign policy,” because HE DOES NOT HAVE AN ISOLATIONIST TYPE OF FOREIGN POLICY, regardless of how many times FAKE-conservatives repeat the LIE. Ron Paul’s NONINTERVENTIONIST foreign policy is in perfect harmony with the founders thinking and their CONSTITUTION. However, the Bush/Obama/Romney UNCONSTITUTIONAL ISOLATIONIST foreign policy of welfare, warfare, propping up and tearing down, violates both AND INCREASE DANGERS TO OUR NATION. (and don’t think I missed your STRATEGIC application of the word “was” – as if his run is over… IT IS NOT)
Correct, “most of the angry energy” IS aimed at the MYTHICAL batdooky-crazy supporter (with nary a SHRED of evidence or example). It’s standard propaganda. Paul is next to bullet proof, making your FAKE-reservations (isolationist) look extremely dishonest… so you do the Alinsky-shuffle and claim the “batdooky-crazy supporters” ruined his chances – thus ELIMINATING ANY NEED to debate POLICY.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:13am@riseandshine
Report Post »ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
RANGER1965
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:15am@ All Ron Paul Supporters on this thread.
You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. Our country departed from our founder’s wishes long ago and became an international concern. Right our wrong we are tied economically, strategically, and politically with nations all over the earth. We are bound by treaties which WE! made, shared goals, and shared economic interests…AND in some cases the interests are of such a magnitude that it would break our nation in half to end them.
In conclusion call it what you will (isolationists, partial isolationist, the Swiss system, the founder’s way, It still means a withdrawl from interests across the globe. When the US withdraws it leaves a vaccuum, which WILL be filled, by someone else.
Is this a bad or good thing? I don’t know, I can see both sides of the argument and both sides have good points. But my original statement was that the most objectionable part of Dr. Paul’s proposed policy, was this very conundrum. And it still is.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:23am@QPWillie,
I do worship one man (sorta). I worship Jesus Christ my lord and savior.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:48am@QP……You owed me a ROTFLMAO for my LOL the other day. I’m sorry for any embarrassment I may have caused you.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:18pm@RANGER1965- You can’t put the genie back in the bottle.
Ranger, I’ve never understood this aphorism being used in cases like this. Does it mean that once a person or a country or an organization has chosen a particular course of action that it can never be changed? That’s how I interpret it. And that’s absolutely false. People, organizations and countries change their directions all the time.
It may be applicable in some other areas. One example might be the decision to launch nuclear weapons. But in terms of a country changing foreign policy, renegotiating treaties, extending or contracting diplomatic relations I don’t think it applies at all.
As to Ron Pauls’ position on non-intervention I am certain that he would not let a vacuum develop in any strategic area. As he said in the interview for this article, “the Fed can’t be shut down in a day or two”, he would approach troop withdrawals, base closings, treaty renegotiation, etc in the same manner. He is a wise and practical man.
In some cases where a vacuum does develop please remember that these other countries are sovereign and they have both the right and responsibility to defend themselves. If they need specific help they can ask for it at any time.
I’ve read many of your posts and you seem a rational man. You may never support Ron Paul, but please consider how you choose to characterize him. Neither he, nor the vast majority of his supporters, are kooks. Peace.
Report Post »Brother Winston Smith
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:27pmRANGER1965
FALSE:
“You can’t put the genie back in the bottle.”
TRUTH:
Putting a genie BACK in the bottle, indicate the genie WAS ONCE in the bottle… thus dissolving your statement.
FALSE:
“Our country departed from our founder’s wishes long ago and became an international concern.”
TRUTH:
Our country (with the aid of the PRIVATE Federal Reserve) began nation building relatively recently.
FALSE:
“Right our wrong we are tied economically, strategically, and politically with nations.”
TRUTH:
INDEPENDENT America is “tied” TO NOTHING! And any FALSE “connection” that is damaging to us MUST BE IMMEDIATELY SEVERED! (think U.N. – which Paul, and Americans, wants us OUT OF)
FALSE:
We are bound by treaties which WE! made”
TRUTH:
We are “bound” by NOTHING!
FEAR-MONGERING GIBBERISH:
“it would break our nation in half to end them.”
CORRECT:
“withdrawal”
YES, OUT OF THE U.N. AND OUT OF THE ILLEGAL NATION-BUILDING!
LIFE ON EARTH:
“leaves a vacuum, which WILL be filled,”
YES, this is EXACTLY WHY we need to STRENGTHEN DEFENSES and return to faith in our Republic’s Guardian above.
PROPAGANDA:
“I can see both sides of the argument.”
TRUTH:
This FALSE position is designed to make you APPEAR rational and open minded.
SUCCESSFUL PROPAGANDA:
Report Post »“And it still is.”
Yes, many Americans have been DUPED by FAKE-conservative fear-mongers. But the corpses are piling and the police state is swarming. The ruse has just about run it
Naps
Posted on August 3, 2012 at 12:30pmBut…but…Romney said Bernanke is doing a good job! And Glenn tells me to vote for Romney. And Rush tells me to vote for Romney! And whatever they say I must do. Oh the weak minded Beckistani’s and NeoCons! How pathhetic you are. So in denial and blind to the fact that Rommney is a slick haired slimeball. I hate to say this but,we can definitely expect for more years of NoBama.and of course,all the sheep will blame us sane down to earth Paul supporters. Thank You Dr. Paul for your honesty,integrity,and your loyalty to the Constitution. 20 years from now,all of the Paul haters are gonna be praying for a candidate like you.
Report Post »Obamney/Goldman Sachs 2012
Ron Paul/The American Paople 2012
Not a tough choice!!!!