Ironically-Named ‘Smart Meters’ Prove to Be a Dumb Idea
- Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:37pm by
Mike Opelka
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Headaches, insomnia, tinnitus, DNA breakdown. . . These are just a few of the myriad problems mentioned when people talk about the constant bombardment of EMFs or electromagnetic frequencies, a huge by-product of the new Smart Meters being installed by public utilities around the country.
But wait! We have been told that the Smart Grid, with it’s Smart Meters would be a good thing for all of us. Now we find out that this scheme poses very real dangers to human health?
Information on the effect of installing millions of Smart Meters, all equipped with wireless transmitters that are constantly filling the environment with EMFs, is just starting to trickle in. An electrical engineer named Rob States has been looking into this problem:
“Since individuals with no history of RF disease are experiencing symptoms the first day the meter is installed, we can assume the meter’s RF emissions are not the only problem. The RF network is activated months after initial meter installation. Extensive measurements have demonstrated that all of the meters measured so far, including ABB, GE, and Landis Gyr, emit noise on the customer’s electric wiring in the form of high frequency voltage spikes, typically with an amplitude of 2 volts, but a frequency any ware from 4,000 Hertz, up to 60,000 Hz. The actual frequency of the phenomena is influenced by the devices that are plugged into the customer’s power. Some houses are much worse than others, and this observation has been confirmed by PG&E installers that have talked to us.”
Rob’s comments come from an online article posted by Stop Smart Meters.
Thanks to the work of people like Stop Smart Meters, communities are waking up to the problem. Especially in California.
Generally speaking, people in California seem to accept new government programs with open arms, especially anything with the words ‘green’ or ‘smart’ attached to it. So Smart Meters seemed to be a no-brainer as they promised to make the planet greener and who doesn’t want a smart electrical meter?
You should know that the so-called Smart Meters are the typical energy monitoring devices with a little extra bonus added. It is a wireless transmitter (think cell phone) that is constantly sending the power company updates on your electrical use. The meters are now bombarding the environment with EMFs, all day, every day. That electronic carpet-bombing of your home, apartment complex, subdivision is being blamed for health problems in people who are ‘electrically hypersensitive.’ (a real term)
The argument that Smart Meters will lower energy consumption has also been debunked. Reuters published a piece showing no real long-term savings in homes with Smart Meters vs the old meters.
“Participants who kept the monitor (…) did not manage to sustain their electricity savings any better than those without a monitor.”
“A second finding is that certain groups of people seem more receptive to energy-saving interventions than others. A ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach for home energy monitors cannot be justified.”
No real savings, potential health problems. . . so why the rush to install these so called Smart Meters in 200 million homes?
Some skeptics claim the new meters will allow government access to more information and control over individuals. From our new friends at StopSmartMeters.org:
Do you value civil liberties and the right to privacy? When a ‘smart’ meter is installed, your utility has access to a treasure trove of information about you- when you wake up in the morning, when you go on vacation, what kinds of appliances you are using, etc. They will be able to sell this information to a series of corporations and the government.
YES, the words ‘Big Brother’ definitely come to mind here.
Oddly enough, California may be leading the charge against Smart Meters. There are almost 30 local governments formally opposing the installation of the Smart Meters. Two weeks ago the tide started turning:
The anti-Smart Meter people actually scored a victory of sorts against this governmental invasion as news broke yesterday that PG&E offered an ‘opt-out’ program, but it is going to cost you. Early estimates say that choosing the old meter will cost an additional $14-$20 per month, plus a ‘set-up’ fee.
Let’s review what we know about Smart Meters:
European studies have shown no significant energy savings.
Great potential exists for serious and wide-spread health problems caused by constant bombardment of EMFs.
Loss of personal freedom to consume energy as you see fit is inherent in this kind of metering.
Government now has access to even more information about how you live, with the potential to interfere in your life via control of power.
And, if you choose NOT to have a Smart Meter, you will pay a ‘tax’ for the right to retain your privacy and freedom of choice.
Any questions?
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Comments (354)
Wide Awake
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:22pmMy ears have been ringing non-stop since they’ve installed the thing. I had no idea it could be related to the smart meter.
Report Post »Aphool Imnaught
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:58amIt is called the Frey effect. It is an early warning system that alerts you to the fact that you are experiencing electromagnetic induction and thermal heat effect, nerve and muscle depolarization and gradual electrical decline of your own body. BTW? The frequencies are illegal under all EMF safety codes effective September 24th 2010. Corporations are ignoring this.
Report Post »Check out the guy who alerted the world to the dangers
thermogy.com
RIGHTNOTLEFT
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:20pmMore control……..SHOCKING……..NOT
Report Post »subdoc
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:20pmMark of the beast?
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:05pmYes it is the mark of the beast and the beast name is soros
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:38pmThe power companies are in the cross-hairs of the Obama Admin. He stated that he had NO PROBLEM if coal power went bankrupt! That is 80% of Ohio’s electricity. So the power companies have to cut usage. Big brother Obama has every intention of raising the cost of energy in this country through taxation.
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:20pmIn Ohio We are getting those hazardous curly cue bulbs forced on us by electric companies…Get this we get 2 “bulbs” that we will automatically be charged for at about 30 cents amonth for a total of 10 buck-a-roos..But Wait Theres More..Because the companies will be Losing money because of their efficientcy You Ready we get to to pay for the loss Grand total for 2 bulbs I don’t want 54 Smack-a roonies http://www.19actionnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=14310190
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:11pmWOW did not realize you folks in northern Ohio were getting screwed Edison style in your bills. I have not seen that here in the Cincinnati area. To hell with the cfl‘s my wife and i are installing Edison style LED’s. We have done the math and they are cheaper than either incandescent or CFL’s
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 7:56amUh, read your own link. The program is voluntary. Read and comprehend before you descend into hysterics and get people riled up.
Report Post »steve-in-pa
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:18pmThe power nazis are getting ridiculous in PA. In NY they are insane price wise.
Report Post »steve-in-pa
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:49pmI just looked online, smart meters are made by GE, imagine that. This is pure BS.
hifi74
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:17pmIt’s the EMF field that is being produced by that transmission that people are sensitive too. Typically EMF fields have a relatively small range but even an abundance of badly or unshielded wire can create large EMF fields. Some people are more receptive to it then others. Either way the fact is that certain electronics can and do do things such as they are reporting. I tend to believe them on this one, just from working in the trades in Heating AC, plumbing, and electrical as I do right now.
Report Post »Aphool Imnaught
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:10amEveryone is receptive to EMF induction. We are uninsulated dynamic ultra subtle electrical systems and the meters turn our bodies into involuntary conductors and our houses into RF/microwave antennas. Bees leave and later perish. Usually they depart in as little as 24 hours. Kiss food security good bye. Also bats, butterflies, birds lose the ability to migrate, echo-locate, navigate. So these frequencies are so strong that they blanket everything and wipe out the eco system on which we all depend. Extinction to which we too are susceptible. Don’t even ask about pacemakers, oxygen equipment, and other medical implants or the effect on infants and children. The other real cost? The massive disease burden. Only some people are aware of the harm it is causing but it adversely affects us all, indeed all biological creatures. Even the oblivious humans are still being electrically induced. That’s right. Good old fashioned electrical induction is caused by the smart meter frequencies and it is against the law to induce us. Ready to say NO yet and mean it? Then follow up with action beginning with… protect your analog meter or totally foil wrap the s/meter before it induces cognitive impairment and you forget who you are.
Report Post »obama_binpharteen
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:17pmSince being installed, my Sons Mother has seen their electricity bill almost triple. When she complains to the utility company, they insists there is nothing wrong with the device. My Brother also noticed an almost tripling of his electricity in the last few months.
Report Post »Proud_Texan_American
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:44pmYour name made me laugh… Obama been farting…
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:29amYeah, mine quintupled!
Report Post »Hmmm…suspiciously hard to verify, but adds to the hysteria.
TCJ
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:54pmOur bill tripled since installation
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:15pmThese things resonate with the electrical wiring and emit sound between 4 kHz and 60 kHz? Whoa. The human ear can pick up sounds in the 20 Hz to 20 kHz range (approx), these things wouldn‘t just be annoying but they’d probably piss off dogs something fierce.
Report Post »Aphool Imnaught
Posted on November 9, 2011 at 5:13amActually animals find the effect of such powerful frequencies agonizing. they are much more tuned in than we are.
Report Post »rawbender
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:13pmYou’re right about that. If people are worried about that kind of EMF (which is actually the acronym for Electro-Motive-Force i.e. voltage), then they need to shut off the TV, stop using their remote controls, don’t drive the car, don‘t use the MICROWAVE and for god sakes don’t turn on a fluorescent light you green people. Or anyone else, for that matter.
Report Post »I don’t like the fact that the info can be sold and if stop smart meters.org wants to kill them….then TAKE THEIR FUNDS! Sue them for the lack of disclosure. But radiation poisoning from a transmitter? Shut off your cell phone and for God’s sake, don’t go to a concert. The human hearing range is on average 30 hz to 16,000 hz.(traditionally known as 20 to 20k) So don’t talk to anybody with consonants. Then say rubber baby buggy bumpers.
Good Luck.
a berr
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 8:37pm” EMF (which is actually the acronym for Electro-Motive-Force i.e. voltage) ”
EMF, electromagnetic field is created when and electric circuit flows through a conductor.
I don’t know what the relationship is between the two “EMF’s” Do you?
I don’t have cable TV. Don’t own a microwave. I don’t use fluorescent bulbs.
I like being able to choose to say “NO” to some of this junk.
I‘m voluntarily exposed to some EMF’s for part of the day. Right now I’m on the computer.
That is no excuse for the government / utilities / or corporations to be able to
force this stuff one me against my will when I don’t want it and believe it to be harmful.
The effects of EMF’s are probably dose dependent….just because what you are exposed to now isn’t doing immediate damage…does not mean adding
24 hour “EMF and RF emitting Smart meters is harmless
or that Americans should be forced to allow it.
Where did our freedom go?
I’m new to forums and messed up when I tried to reply to you before…I think I put my reply on “report post”. Yes, what a genius I am. ha ha
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:09pmIts like I heard a lady from Canada talk about our country.She said it is like watching your neighbors house burn down
Report Post »Waltermelon
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:17pmA lady from Canada? Lol. I think she meant to say its like watching your neighbors house burn, as you stand atop the smoldering ruins of your own home!
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:22pmI dont think she was comparing her country with ours,I dont get your point
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:08pmanother example of how the government screws up everything they touch except the military and well they are even screwing with that thanks to BHO
Report Post »maryslittlelamb
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:07pmThank you, Dr. Funk, EE, for injecting some sanity to these procedings. You saved me alarming all my friends with bogus info for which I’m sure they are grateful, too.
Note to Blaze: It looks like you guys fell down on this one. Trust but verify.
Report Post »miles from nowhere
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:06pmOnly a damn idiot would own one. It is like saying I am to stupid to have complete control over my life. That is where stupid is as stupid does!!
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:13pmwe dony own one, I woke up one day and fpound a note on my dpoor. ” we have just intsalled the smart meter on your house.// Love, Central Maine Power” I didnt request it. They shoved it upon me.
Report Post »Waltermelon
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:05pmThe smart meter is also a way for them to steal more of your $$$. There are lawsuits in every market that sprang these upon us. In the majority of these cases, electric bills instantly doubled.
The utility companies get complaints and feign ignorance, suggesting some electrical problem. The customer then schedules an electrician, misses time from work, gets billed a service call, only to learn that there is not an electrical problem. Then the customer is told that the analog meter they previously had was probably inaccurate, and the shell-game continues.
Report Post »diggyorange
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:55pmThis has to do with : Sustainable development, Agenda 21 , & ICLEI LOOK UP ALL OF THOSE NAMES AND YOU’LL UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON AND WHY THE COUNTRY SEEMS UPSIDE DOWN THESE DAYS.
Report Post »Indyeast
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:30pmBravo,an educated person on here.
Read ALL of project 21 at the UN site.
You decide…but do your research first.
so many of you seem to have forgotten to do research.
Report Post »sad.
SFYMP
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:52pmIf agenda 21 and all the cities and counties that have already SIGNED on the dotted line doesn’t raise your hackles, nothing will. How has this gotten this far this fast.
Report Post »Marylou7
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:55pmAnother reason to tax us. We have to pay them if we don’t want our privacy intruded upon. Get real and get out of my life. This is blackmail plain and simple and by our government, arrrrrggggghhhhh
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:04pmI may end up in my little cottage up north living “off the grid”.
Report Post »mcpbob
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:53pmgoverment regulated toilet bowls to save water, but you have to flush twice, so they use more water, goverment tries to regulate everything but they have no foresite to see what the effect would be, and always makes things worse, goverment is not suppose to be in ouir business, goverment needs to be tamed, goverment is ouir greatest enemy
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:52pmGE stands to make billions off of these. But think of the taxes the government will collect on these…….wait… Never mind.
Report Post »Cosmic Ray
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:52pmI fear these smart meters are eventually going to be used to control our high energy use appliances such as our AC’s and dryers. In addition, I think they are trying to change our way of using energy to what they think is proper. Screw them and screw these meters.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:02pmThat is exactly what they are for .. so that they can cut you off or brown you out .. any time THEY choose.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:49pmImplying that they couldn’t just send someone out to shutoff your power?
Why would the power company cut off your power consumption? You’re PAYING for it!
Report Post »NoThanks_JustLurking
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:52pmCATB: that is not true, you have to volunteer for that program. There are such things as CutOff Devices that ensure folks pay their bills but the individual states control that access.
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:16pmCosmic Ray – you hit the nail on the head – conserve energy according to the government’s ideology – not what is necessary for comfort.
The entire intention is to CONTROL everyone – to affect our quality of life –
according to the government’s plan for our existence.
Lord help the person – who lives in a house w lots of windows & bright sunlight – living next door to a house with few windows – and similar square footage……bc the Smart Meters are designed to cut consumption…..to conserve……….not based on a person’s needs.
GFYObama!
Report Post »pattybbb1
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:38pmI was told by a friend that when they come to install the ‘smart meter’, that all appliances in your home needs to be unplugged. If not, a surge might happen and destroy an appliance. Has anyone else heard that?
Report Post »Katayno
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:51pmI smell Obama, Gore, GE, ….Who makes these? I think George Schwartz Soros makes the
Report Post »Smart Meters.
Tnredneck
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:49pmComing to a neighborhood near you!
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:28amwhat would you prefer… soylent yellow, blue or green.. don’t get on that conveyor belt.
Report Post »loftman
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:45pmOne more move by big brother gone awry.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:06pmFrom the Stop Smart Meters website
“PG&E’s plan would require that everyone in CA receive a ‘smart’ meter on their home. Yes that’s right. It’s an opt out program that requires mandatory ‘smart’ meter installation. This thing is getting more Orwellian by the minute. PG&E says: “Just trust us to turn off your radio transmitter while still being subject to all your neighbors who didn’t want to shell out hundreds of dollars to get their switched off too.” More false solutions, more doublethink, and more fees charged to the ratepayer.”
Report Post »Annie Fields
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:44pmTypical lib backfire.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:00pmIm constantly trying to figure out how so many idiot people live in my community, willfulluy accepting and promoting everything the Gov promotes as safe and green, while freely giving up their liberties to walk this earth without constant surveilance!! The Government is just a group of PEOPLE, Humans like you and me. What would make me WILLFULLY give another human being the power to tell me how to live, where to live, how much energy I can use, what to eat, how to pray, and then force me to pay huge sums of money fpr them to do this to me!!! If we dont coordinate a major tax revolt threat and demand the reduction of GOVERNMENTS personal intrusion and laws, we will be Communist by the end of the year!! We are almost there now… look around you people!!
Report Post »Dale
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:08pmAnd Conservative push-back.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:40pmyou got to be fkng kidding..smart meters for dummies….good luck.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:37pmNUDDE= communist ideology regarding personal propert..eliminete it. well, look whats happened in the last 4 years.. through Governemnt induced hopusing crash, the consequencial result is 65 percent of the adult / household demographic, is now homeless. they rent. new survey out yesterday states more people are selling or abandoning their homes becuase owning one is no longer beneficial its a huge financial liability. Nudge= healthcare plan for Kids to stay on parents insurance till age 26. — result? college graduates arent moving out and buying new homes. Average age of Marriage has risen, number of children born has plummeted per couple. result? socialogical collapse of our society. we arent replentishing our population domestically. result? Immigrants and THEIR CULTURES are taking over the United states. MULTICULTURALISM experiment has Failed. result? America will be Muslim by 2060.
Report Post »Run Silent
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:48pmAnother smart fart idea brought to you by the U S S A
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:12pmWe have smart meters and during the summer when electric consumption is high – they control our temperatures wirelessly – set it at a high setting. Now, I really won’t mind this if they have only told us first, but no, they installed these new meters without telling the general public anything!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-Nx
Report Post »realindependent
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:12amYes thank you GWB for bailing out the banks. letting mortagage providers give out loans to anyone, then letting them take out interest free loans on those mortgages to buy investment condo conversions. thanks for funding dept. of homeland security, 2 wars, medicare part d. all of which were unfunded mandates. and cutting taxes at the same time. and you guys think O’bama did it… what a shame you guys. You dont have facts on your side and short term memory loss as well. O’bama did a stimulus package that kept firefighters cops and teachers employed, now that the stimulus is gone the Republicorps can now say oh look the states are broke now and its the unions fault. Lets cut there pay and give it to corporations to come here and get tax free land, and differed taxes on the equipment and privatize everything with no regulations. and now break the country further on the state level instead of the federal level. Fricking BRILLIANT morons…..
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:39pmSounds like another SMART OBAMA IDEA!
bikerr
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:46pmHow would we know if people in California are affected?. They seem to be there now.
goofyfoot2001
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:46pmIt‘s like I’m in some weird movie watching my country go insane by the day.
pscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:49pmIm calling my doctor, and then a lawyer to suit the government, to get my portion of redistributed wealth as soon as possible.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:54pmWhat it all comes down to is CONTROL and POWER.
Report Post »diggyorange
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:57pmthis is a UN idea check it out : http://vimeo.com/15573381
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:58pmGovernment now has access to even more information about how you live, with the potential to interfere in your life via control of power.
This conveniently fits in with the words in Revelation 13:17.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:59pmWe are one of the areas that Obama had “stimulated” to get these .. I will fight them if they try! Ever watch Ghost Hunters? They use meters that can register this and it does effect people. H no!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:00pmHey those curley MERCURY BULBS were a “green” idea also .. I see a trend here .. .They are trying to kill us off!
Report Post »reality based lifeform
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:07pmOne non-advertised feature of the new smart meters is the Ultility’s (and someday government’s) ability to remotely turnoff the power to each house equipped with a smart meter . If power rationing is desired due to citizens using too much electrical energy – just turn em off . It looks to be just another control device to eliminate freedom for the masses . Perhaps if you owe the IRS money they will turn your power off until you pay up . Now it will be possible .
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:08pmwhat happens if we all wrap them up in tin foil? does the signal get out? how would they know? they dont come to the house for readings anymore.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:20pmIf you really want to get off the grid then you need to explore all other options to get there. Personal wind Turbines etc… If you have natural gas Honda makes generators or Hydrogen converters for their Fuel Cell cars and they might even be available from certain Green Energy stores.
Report Post »joe conservative
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:30pmI’ll be happy to pay to keep my privacy. Just wait until the “smart” grid is finished. They will have the ability to shut you down completely when they want. That sounds great, doesn’t it?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=619wI12Ky20
sooner12
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:35pmWhat really grates on me is that companies seel your information to others without your permission. Before you get on another’s mailing list the company should ask you in advance, not after the fact. In other words, no automatic opt-ins. You should actually get a phone call from them asking for permission.
Report Post »taebaggranny
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:58pm@ RIGHTPOLITICALLY Just another way to keep track of the HOMER SIMPSON’S and what they do…
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 8:59pm@SNOW -
Report Post »Don’t forget “another nudge.”
Showtime
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:09pmWho is manufacturing these Smart Meters? That should tell us something.
Kaen
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:18pmMine was installed 2 days ago…calling Monday to have it yanked out…and if the power company won’t…I will.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:26pmGrope and Change you can believe in……….Green is the new Red
Report Post »bulletsinthegun
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:27pmA little tin foil in the right place disarms the meter from transmitting. If that don’t work just shoot it
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:31pmIBM and Cable & Wireless Worldwide are behind it.
IBM because of their expertise with the smart grid and database technology, and C&W for their national telecommunications network.
They are interested in gathering DATA about us, including what time we wake up. I don’t like the way that smells!!!
dealer@678
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:33pmThey’ve been trying to install those things in my part of town here in Dallas. Everyone here is fighting it BUT i dont think were gonna win
Report Post »Large Eagle
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:36pmWow – Now they administration is trying to euthanize the people who voted them into office. Go democrats – it is coming to bite you..
Report Post »Infidel and Proud
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:44pm@ PSCULLEY17:
Report Post »You have an excellent point ! Encasing the meter as much as possible with aluminium foil and the grounding the foil (such as the conduit which brings the power to the meter) SHOULD shield the RF from being transmitted,
Boondock Saint
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:05pm@ Bikerr
Please get the spelling right… it’s Kaliforniastan… I would leave if I could :(
Report Post »random357
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:10pmIt is an example of electromagnetic pollution.
Report Post »It is all around us. It comes from every electric wire and device.
shorthanded12
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:23pmactually it sounds like another GE (General Electric) bs idea just like there over priced harmful green lightbulbs…dont worry folks Nancy will be out there They have to be in place for 5 yrs then we will know if its harmful or not.
Report Post »ottodiedacktick
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:26pmI‘m not saying that I’m in favor of “smart meters”, but isn’t it ironic that people are having microwaves going through their brains as they use the cell phone to complain?
What about the electro waves that they get from the compact fluorescent light bulbs, and the mercury?
Why does Glenn Beck call his company “Mercury” while using a logo of an incandescent light bulb which has no mercury? Shouldn’t he use a picture of a CFL for his logo? It has mercury. Hmmm.
Report Post »canative
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:43pmbikerr
Report Post »Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:46pm
How would we know if people in California are affected?. They seem to be there now.
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bikerr: you really should visit California… we’re not all from San Francisco. Here in San Diego we were NOT asked if we wanted smartmeters installed. They just told us they were installing them. Please don’t buy into the “California” stereotype. Only the ignorant believe in stereotypes.
TXPilot
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:46pmNo smart meters here, since I went “off grid” two years ago….no electric bills or power outages either.
CatB
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:04pmhttp://stopsmartmeters.org/
Funny when I did the search I put in “stop smart meters” .. and what came up first on the page
Siemens
Ecoimagination — which is GE
Strange how “searches” go isn’t it!
Report Post »zippo
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:40pmRipp the —-ing thing out, and put in temp tabs. The utility companys are all in bed together with our wonderfull government having a giant orgy. And guess what? were paying for it!
Report Post »Dan
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:58pmLike everything this administration does, the results doesn’t matter, its the intention that counts.
Dan
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:16amPeople…you need to get to a Tea Party meeting! Get involved! And…..get these Dems OUT in 2012!
Report Post »As well, we need to pressure our Republican legislators endlessly to not support ANY UN initiatives! EVER!
It’s past time to shut down the UN!
PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:16amTHIS IS NOTHING more than a SCAM to get a fortune to the cronies who bought the companies that produce these Smart Meters (or hold patents to the plug things (the guy who left Fannie Mae in disgrace but still took Millions in severance pay)
THEY finally came up with a way to TAX THE VERY AIR WE BREATHE. WE were all fat and lazy and we let these Progressive Jack Asses get their one-note brains in charge — we deserve the pain we’re going to go thru to clean up this mess. We were asleep at the switch. Now we’re awake.
2012 and SARAH PALIN cannot come into the WHITE HOUSE fast enough!!! WAKE UP AMERICA…stop these idiots who can’t think past the first statement. Silly, stupid, emotional, childish, entitled, spoiled, ruined, un-Patriotic slobs.
Report Post »NotDoneYet
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:21amWhaat do you want to bet an algore or clinton type is getting a kick-back from these things.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:25ampscully17
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 7:49pm
Im calling my doctor, and then a lawyer to suit the government, to get my portion of redistributed wealth as soon as possible.
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You mean Obama Money?! You just want some of his stash, right?
http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:31amI bet that if a few hundred thousand people strategically defaulted on their electric bills until the meters were removed this whole scam would be ended quickly.
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:53amA smart meter contains two antennas.
One transmits at 915 MHz and the other at 2405 MHz.
They can transmit at the same time, and so their effective radiated power is summed in the calculations of RF power density.
Their combined limit is 655 uW/cm2.,
The same frequency range as wireless cameras, routers, Cellphones and MICROWAVES +/- a few points spread over it’s spectrum.
The peak power limit applies to all smart meter frequencies for both the smart meter (two-antenna configuration) and the collector meter (three-antenna configuration).
All these antennas are within the 300 MHz to 6 GHz frequency range where the 4000 uW/cm2 peak power limit applies (Table 3, ANSI/IEEE C95.1-1999, page 15 For exposures in uncontrolled environments).
RF levels associated with inhibition of DNA repair in human stem cells at 92.5 uW/cm2
Consumers may also have already increased their exposures to radiofrequency radiation in the home through the voluntary use of wireless devices (cell and cordless phones), PDAs like BlackBerry and iPhones, wireless routers for wireless internet access, wireless home security systems, wireless baby surveillance (baby monitors), and other emerging wireless applications.
Neither the FCC, the CPUC, the utility nor the consumer know what portion of the allowable public safety limit is already being used up or pre-empted by RF from other sources already present in the particular location a smart meter may be installed and operated.
Read the report here:
http://sagereports.com/smart-meter-rf/?page_id=198
So, yes, there ARE potential health risks,
probably some sort of shielding in walls can avert SOME of it.
EYES (as in blindness) and Testes are at risk when in close proximity.
Cancers, pacemakers etc not good…..
apartment buildings have MANY meters in one spot thereby increasing the power ourput of the signal, and there is a “collector” meter that also has antennas and sends signals.
The “network” of meters in a neighborhood,
relay the info from meter to meter to the utility,
so there are times when they all could be “talking” adding to the amount of signal/power in the area, God only knows if the data has corruption possibilities, creating a nightmare of a bill….
Now, WHY are they so gung-ho on these meters ?
1) it probably eliminates major expenses related to meter reading, the workers, the vehicles, the gasoline.diesel bill
2) In almost every region, they have for YEARS had a T.O.U. meter program.
Time of use meters track when and how much power you consume, typically there are
varying rates depending on the time of day, Generally 4 or more rates/periods per day.
Supposedlly to encourage the consumer to help during peak useage hours they turn into a nightmare of high utility bills, and typically lower income homes had them installed stressing already strained budgets.
3) in EVERY region the T.O.U. meter programs were an utter failure for the utility. People hate the high bills and would switch back if they had the option.
The Smart meter program is a T.O.U. program in disguise,
they have the very same tracking capability.
Some companies were up front about that, some were not, however
ALL at some point when enough of these are installed will FORCE the T.O.U. rates on us,
with your local PUC blessing !
I worked with low income households on energy conservation.
It was typical to see several hundred dollar a month bills.
Most were in default when I arrived.
Combined with electric heat, they were doomed to poverty.
The whole boondoggle of smart meters was slipped in as part of
the grid “improvements” designed to facillitate power transmission
for solar farms and fields of clownflowers on a stick (aka windturbines)
Typically the utility and states with Federal grants pay for the infrastructure aka TAXES.
The investors run away with the high initial profits from the generation fields.
I predict they will sell those investments as soon as the clownflowers start racking up
HUGE repair bills, leaving the states to deal with fields of rusting useless eyesores.
AKA MORE taxes.
Oh and guess who pays the lions share of the grid-“improvements” ?
The ratepayer of course, and will BE the reason why they
“need” to get us all on T.O.U. rates asap !
Two MAJOR topics never disclosed/discussed are:
1) The ease of rolling blackouts, simply send the shut down signal,
which BTW the METER CAN BE HACKED as it is a simple dumb communications protocol,
a kid with a laptop and wireless could rack your bill to huge $ or shut down your power.
2) see #1 and apply it to Terrorists, they just made it 1000 times easier to screw with the grid !
-Watchman
Report Post »I write about Energy & Survival topics here:
http://www.watchman2012.com
jzs
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 2:33amThis lead-in to this post ends with the statement, “Any questions?” Well I have a few. What in the world does EMF stand for? Electromagnetic frequency? Electromagnetic force? That acronym has no defined meaning. and is presented here with no explanation.
My second question is, “How can the Blaze, in good conscience, create fear by preying on people’s ignorance about science? How can the Blaze editors maintain any claim of being journalists, let alone ethical journalists, when they cynically take advantage of the average American’s lack understanding of simple science.
Every person in the United States is constantly bombarded by electromagnetic radiation (EMF). Radio, AM and FM is EMF. Cell phones are obviously EMF, and that’s the same technology used in these devices. Everyone one on Earth is exposed to cosmic radiation every second. And then there’s EMF from your microwave, your Bluetooth devices, your wireless internet, and the power lines outside your house.
How do you live with yourself, how do you claim to be a decent human being putting this kind of nonsense on internet that only the those who our education system failed will believe?
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 2:48am@ jzs,
your post has shown how little you actually know of the subject, and corrolating that with your other posts, it shows you for the troll you are……….attempting to reach beyond your means will cause you to fall on your face
have a nice trip
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 3:20amPsychosis, I‘m glad you don’t have headaches, insomnia, tinnitus, or DNA breakdown (whatever “DNA breakdown” is). Whatever you do, don’t let them install this device at your house! Or you will start having headaches and a myriad of other symptoms. You’re symptom-free now, so don’t take any chances!
Report Post »GrumpyCat
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 3:57am@ PSYCHOSIS, I think JZS demonstrates superior knowledge in acknowledging what he doesn’t know. Certainly superior to what PSYCHOSIS has demonstrated.
Clearly we are in technological meltdown due to deficiencies in Public Education. The same public that is receptive to fear of atomic radiation is found to generate additional ratings by stoking fears of “evil EMF”.
I worked for several years before Obama on products that were later to be known as “Smart Meters”. Did most of two different designs. One contains a genuine cellphone.
At the time memory of rolling blackouts in California (due to idiocy of “managed competition”) were still fresh in our investor’s minds. One goal was to be able to provide the utility company the ability to disable water heaters, HVAC, electric dryers, etc, rather than have to shut down entire neighborhoods.
Other parts of the country bought our product in order to reduce the costs of reading meters. Sending someone to read your meter every month is not inexpensive.
But the biggest application was on the 10% of customers who are lazy at paying their electric bill. They almost always find the money to pay their bill the day the meter is disconnected. The utility company has to roll a truck with at least two guys, typically costs $200 but the PSC doesn’t allow them to charge that much. Sometimes police protection is required for this crew. And another $200 to reconnect after the bill is paid. With our product the power could be shut off remotely with a couple of mouse clicks. Very few problem customers had to have their power cut twice. On the humanitarian side of things with our system the utility company could restore power for just the night or other short term for cold spells or heat waves.
As for the RF (EMF) fear-mongering: none of these products use any technology or special FCC regulation that doesn’t already exist. Many use exactly the same broadband-over-powerline (BPL) technology that has been championed by the FCC as the solution to bring “everyone” inexpensive broadband. The same technology the ARRL has been fighting due to the idiocy of putting RF on unshielded power line wires. Its an RF polluter, but its not a health hazard.
As an amateur radio operator I’m thankful BPL has mostly fallen out of favor. Costs too much. Too much trouble. Too slow when compared to DSL, cable, and fiber.
Report Post »Uncle Sambo
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 4:41amDirected at jzs
- “How do you live with yourself, how do you claim to be a decent human being putting this kind of nonsense on internet that only the those who our education system failed will believe?” -
And yet all these other sources of low energy electromagnetic radiation seem to affect living organisms too.
“Mobile phone use can affect a person’s brain waves even when the handset is switched off and the user is asleep, new Australian research released Thursday reveals.”
“Neuroscientist Sarah Loughran studied the brain wave patterns of 50 people in the first half hour of sleep after they had been exposed to 30 minutes of mobile phone radiation.”
http://www.pcworld.com/article/123014/cell_phones_affect_brain_waves_study_says.html
A recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that pressing a cellphone to the ear for 50 minutes altered the brain activity in 47 adult volunteers.
The study doesn’t answer the million dollar question: whether the change in brain activity causes any harm.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2014559632_webcell22.html
And yet all these other sources of low energy electromagnetic radiation seem to affect living organisms too.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 4:58amGrumpy, I defer to to your much greater knowledge on the subject.
But one subject you’ve very carefully avoided is this. Metallic elements in the human body, such as tooth fillings, but also the iron in the blood’s hemoglobin, are receptive to electromagnetic waves. Those metallic elements vibrate through the bones, a vibration that is transmitted to the cranium and via that medium into the brain. By manipulating those vibrations, thoughts can be transmitted via the cerebral cortex into the human mind. These so called “smart meters” are smarter than most imagine. Through a special algorithm developed by scientists, these devices can transmit wavelengths and frequencies in such a way to directly influence thoughts, and thereby bring the receptor under government mind control.
Saving energy is only a pretext.
Report Post »realindependent
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 7:12amhttp://emfjournal.com/2009/06/13/rf-emf-and-neurodegenerative-disease/
seems like no coralation to me. must be right wing paid scientist. like the ones that say global warming/climate change isnt real or man made.
The oil/power companies will pay anything for you to continue using an outdated security threat the oil companies are…. get smart people….
Report Post »joespeaking
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 7:54am“Follow the Money” who is manufacture of meters? Who gains from this excerise?
Report Post »CowboyExpat
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 8:47amSo it’s like really refreshing to see someone in a winter cap with cute little bear ears asking questions….. Don’t forget, the liberal local and state government you rely on to protect you allowed the utilities an easment mandated by law… The utility company can essentially do whatever, whenever they want. You want to change your government, vote them out. You want to eliminate the easment, you have to sue your government or vote them out.
Report Post »foobear
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 8:55amRF/EMF sensitivity is a *hoax* people, and The Blaze reporting it as fact does nothing to further its reputation.
Smart Meters are entirely a ploy by the power companies to squeeze more money from customers. That’s the real story here.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:28amSo, let me see if I understand this correctly. The power company comes to my house and removes the electric meter with no approval from me despite the fact that it works and the bills just keep going higher and higher because the government keeps approving rate increases. They do not charge me for this, but if I want the old meter back I have to pay a “tax.” Evidently, they have not spoken to the Queen of Logic and Newspeak, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, who informed us that the tax/penalty for not having health insurance is NOT a tax/penalty, it is an incentive. This is about as logical as the notice I got from the local electric company informing me that there would be a one-time charge of $25 on my next bill for the tree trimming work they would be doing to prevent branches from bringing down the power lines. The problem I see with that is twofold: first, why do I not have the option of trimming my own trees and second, ALL THE POWERLINES WHERE I LIVE ARE UNDERGROUND!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:34am@ watchmany2k
Report Post »Thanks so much for the in-depth post! VERY interesting, and so is your website.
Jim in Houston
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:34amObama and smart should never be used in the same sentence.
Report Post »NotaLemming
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:38amDid anyone know that Google was part of this?
Report Post »http://yourdaddy.net/2010/05/14/crime-inc-google-will-read-your-power-meter/
NotaLemming
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:39amGoogle helped to bankroll this with TAX DOLLARS from the stimulus
Report Post »YES! Google is part of this!
http://yourdaddy.net/2010/05/14/crime-inc-google-will-read-your-power-meter/
leftcoastslut
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:21amsoillet green… wasn’t that a good idea
Report Post »reaganited
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:22amAnother device that pours out a lot of RF into the air is named Easy Water. If you have one in your house, put a radio near it and turn it on. Buzzzzzz. Easy Water is a sponsor of Glenn’s radio show. Sorry about that.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:58amSmart meter 1 installed 1-1/2 years ago. Smart meter 2 replaced it 6 months later. NO CHOICE GIVEN. Is this why all my lights buzz now? FFL, Living behind enemy lines in the Peoplez Republik of Kalifornia, providing firearms and ammunition to the free people of the US. Dont throw us under the bus, throw us a lifeline.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 11:13amIt’s unfortunate, but these “corporate” values are based on ‘typical’ installations and home wiring. I’m afraid that that in reality, no such thing actually exists.
Each and every home has a wiring scheme that is different. RF is a ‘tuned’ frequency. It requires intimate understanding of path length, conductive resistance, capacitive reactance, inductive reactance and other fundamentally critical circuit characteristics to become ‘effective’ as a means for anything even remotely resembling what has to be a form of reliable encryption.
Each and every mechanical connection, conductor, electronic circuit, breaker, fuse and device has to be characterized. Generalities are at best ‘assumptions’ about the entire circuit.
IMHBLO, this entire scheme is just one more effort at governmental robbery beyond taxation, (inaccurate reporting of) inflation, exploitation and manipulation of statistical social “measures” portrayed as metrics for comprehensive sympathetic understanding of infrastructure and ‘need.’
Government meets no “needs.” If it did we would have more power plants built. We would drill for more oil and gas. We would encourage entrepreneurship, lower corporate taxes (across the board, not just at “government” subsidized corporations, like GE). We would see restrictions lifted on farming, planting and use of public lands.
It’s everything entrepreneurs can do to create and sustain a business in this country, today.
Instead we see viral behavior of the government in sequestering land by the hundreds of thousands of acres. Eliminating access and exploration of resources without adequate explanation or scientific basis.
Something isn’t right here. This quadratic doesn’t add up.
The Rewd
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 11:45amSmart meters do one thing: Allow real time pricing of electricity which gives electric companies the ability to charge more for their product. Unless a consumer plans on drastically changing their daily circadian habits, say preparing dinner at 3am, then bills will only increase. And if you don’t alter your habits voluntarily then the power company will reach in and do it for you.
Of course this is President Sortero’s green dream, saying it will encourage (force) people to use less. Of course that will happen, unfortunately the result will be a lower standard of living and quality of life.
Only dumb people would accept a smart meter.
Report Post »CruzerDog
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:35pmEasy Fix
Jam the signal with another transmitter. They will then have to come out and read the meter instead of the truck running down the road picking up the signal. No way I would pay to get the old meter back.
This is no different then the guy that created the radar for police, he then turned around and made the same devive for the public to defeat it.
Hmmm, I will make MILLIONS
Report Post »TCJ
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 12:45pmMy mother had a new pacemaker implanted in Oct. 2010. She died in Feb. this year due to it failing. We had a smart meter installed in December and she had gone down hill since then. Prior to that she felt fine and was doing great. We have been trying to figure out what happened since she passed away and now I am concerned that this may have had something to do with her death. I obtained her pacemaker after she passed away and contacted a lawyer but so far no luck. This may be another avenue I need to explore. I also have been having insomnia since it was installed….thankfully we are moving in two weeks.
Report Post »mhills51
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 6:08pmI am sorry, but I must of missed it, Who is paying for the power to transmit all the data?? I see a law suit in the making.
Report Post »bigbud
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 6:08pmIts a 1st. No no it’s another in the long list of his Ideas that have been WRONG !!!!!! He’s not been correct YET
Report Post »anutter
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 6:20pmIt’d be a smart idea not to get one.
Report Post »bulletsinthegun
Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:13pmMaybe this is why i think Obama should be impeached, the meter clouded my mind, no just kidding he is an idiot and just needs to be impeached
Report Post »sgallion1
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 12:15amTou’che!
Report Post »Judy
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 12:44pmI am a Californian. At Beck University I Iearned that the patent for the Smart Meter attachment to walls – business and residential- is owned by FEMA. (Think about that.) The device cannot be detached from the wall. To do that is illegal. The Smart Meter is a device to monitor your carbon emissions during different times of the day. The unit dwelller at each meter will be “taxed” for excess usage during peak hours and other times. This money/carbon will go to the California Climate Exchange, the Chicago Climate Exchange, etc. It is done regionally, by-passing local and state representative governments. It is used purposefully to redistribute wealth throughout the world and make certain investors very rich. It is possible to check on the above facts. Please, do that.
Report Post »Judy
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:06pmFIRST OF ALL, The SMART METER IS ALL ABOUT THE CARBON EMISSIONS, THE CLIMATE EXCHANGES, ANDTHE WORLD WIDE REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH AND MAKING AL GORE, ETC. RICH (mind ,it is OK with me to get rich, but this is all a sham for acquiring carbons). Do your own research. See my comment above.
Report Post »SECOND, a smart meter was not attached to our house – up 80 stairs- on a California hillside – because someone in the house has asthma and I put up a sign stating such. I do not return calls to PG&E or answer theirs.
K Chad Roberts
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 1:07pmI don’t like the camera man in the Youtube video. It’s one thing to inform people, but he’s being underhanded.
Report Post »Garwoodv6
Posted on March 28, 2011 at 2:14pmNext thing will be a “Graduated energy rate” following peak usage levels and time of day… you watch!
Just like cell phone service: Peak/offpeak/weekend.
The only “Savings” is the labor and related cost savings by the Utility companies when they no longer use “Meter Readers”. Thousands of jobs lost Nationwide.
Report Post »I don’t doubt that the electronic usage records gathered in “Smart Meter” networks will be used for other purposes, including product marketing demographics.
jackrorabbit
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:30amWhat do you know, another dumb idea from “smart” people in politics. When will we learn that politics only produces dummies? Give them 4 years of politicization and the dumb just sneaks up on them.
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