Irony: New Pro-Life Billboards Feature President Obama
- Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:45am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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How’s this for irony: a new set of pro-life billboards is set to debut today in Chicago, and they’re featuring abortion advocate Barack Obama.
The ads are from the same group, Life Always, that caused a ruckus in New York last month when it used a stock image of a young black girl on a billboard with the phrase, “The Most Dangerous Place for an African American is in The Womb.” The ad was eventually removed by the ad company after intense pressure.
The group’s new ads will feature a graphic of Obama next to the statement, “Every 21 Minutes, Our Next Possible Leader Is Aborted.” Over 30 of them will appear on Chicago’s South side — a predominately black area.
“Our future leaders are being aborted at an alarming rate,” Life Always board member Reverend Derek McCoy said in a press release. “These are babies who could grow to be the future presidents of the United States, or the next Oprah Winfrey, Denzel Washington, or Maya Angelou.”
The billboards are meant to target the disproportionate number of abortions in the black community, which the group says comprises 13 percent of the population but 36 percent of abortions.
“The potential of a community lies in its children,” said fellow board member Pastor Stephen Broden. “If we aren’t having them, our potential is lost.”
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Comments (219)
ADNIL
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:46amWhat a mixed message in this one! Makes me rethink my opinion. Wasn‘t this the guy who said publically that if one of his daughters made a mistake he wouldn’t want her “punished with a baby”?? Can’t get anything right. Low life running the country.
Report Post »auburntaylors96
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:40amremember? he doesn‘t want anyone ’punished with a baby’. i wonder how his own children feel about being punishment for him/
Report Post »Chasvs391
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:35amThis is more of a poster in FAVOR of Abortion! Just think if he had never been born!
Report Post »cece959
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:58amThank you. My sentiments exactly.
Report Post »Bushie
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:35amIf anyone should have been aborted, it should have been the guy that was bone on August 4, 1961. That guy is turning America into an abortion. He is making the reason all those people who fought and died for this country obsolete.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:46amI think he was born on August 4, 1959. That‘s why he won’t show his birth certificate.
Report Post »mrooker1
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:48pmWe don‘t know his birth date because he won’t show it. I hope Trump shames him into showing it soon. We need to know if a foreigner is President or not. He is as close to being the Manchurian candidate as this country has ever had. He is totally invented.
Report Post »Joan Of Argghh
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:33am.
See? That’s how you judo the crap out of the politi-speak divide. You take the strength of your adversary and use it to school his followers. The direct approach only works in war. We’re not there. . . yet.
I wish more politicians would learn this tactic.
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i want the truth
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:30amHow long is it going to be before the prolife billboard is taking down? I am sure it is not going to take him a week(like he has done for everytihng else)! The pro-life, soon to be called terriorst group that put that sign up will probably get death threats and jail time the way this country is headed.
Report Post »I love the Billboard!!! Great Job!!! It says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:29am“The potential of a community lies in its children,” said fellow board member Pastor Stephen Broden. “If we aren’t having them, our potential is lost.”
Yes the children are important. But what’s more important is to raise them to be responsible adults.
Report Post »moonpeace
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:25amI’m sure the far, far left will have something to say about this…that is, unless they see it as some type of liberal strategy to confuse independents and/or conservatives.
Report Post »I forget where I heard the following information, but I recall hearing someone say abortion can be a good thing because it saves tons and tons of money. Whover said that offered that the majority of those citizens–if they were not aborted–would end up on welfare, foodstamps, MEDICAID, signed up on every conceivable entitlement offer, and fill the drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers and prisons across the nation–you name it! I had to stop and think about the logic in that for a minute. My question to you is… what do you think? Anything to that theory?
Blackhawk1
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:17am@MOONPEACE
Your assessment is only true because we have Entitlement programs insisted on by liberals. So when you wrote “if they were not aborted–would end up on welfare, foodstamps, MEDICAID, signed up on every conceivable entitlement offer, and fill the drug and alcohol rehabilitation centers and prisons across the nation–you name it! I” that is accurate. Get rid of the freebies and dependence upon the Federal Government you would be surprised how responsible people become. Before FDR what did people do for freebies from the government?
Report Post »Pilgrim Bill
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:30amFreakonomics, by steven levitt sounds like the book your talking about
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:05amThat sounds like fortune telling to me. How can one predict the future of any person, born or unborn? Yes, they may end up on welfare…or they could be the next Colin Powell or Bill Gates. Only God knows the future!
Report Post »greggor
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:24amWith Obama’s likeness, I can’t help but think this is a PRO abortion billboard. I mean, what better reason to abort, than to have such an offspring.
Report Post »psst
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:23amSuch Richhhhhh irony. Pro-life ad featuring Soetoro, Prince of the abortion industry.
Report Post »Ok! the billboards should read, “President Soetoro insist 21 minutes is waaay too long to have our next possible leader aborted”
teddrunk
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:22amWhy would Obama react? He told us clearly he knows nothing about this topic and it’s above his pay grade.
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:26amWhat isn’t above his “pay-grade” anymore? Basketball, golfing and vacationing?
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:52pmBeck..lol..good point
Report Post »TEARS FOR AMERICA
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:19amGod weeps…the most pro-abortion president in history and he is in a pro-life ad…
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:10amI assume this ad is targeting the black community, who presumably support Obama’s presidency. Since Obama was born out of wedlock he would easily have been considered for abortion had it been legal.
This is a good and sensible ad, but with acknowledged limited appeal. But it is good for the irony pointed out that Obama’s own policy would have likely killed him.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:10amIt’s not our decision to make as to whether or not we live and die. That is reserved for God and Him only. Anyone that takes the life of a child has a special place in hell for them.
Report Post »America Bless God
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:44amWell said and that’s why Tom Jefferson put the phrase “Right To Life” in the Declaration of Independence. Our Founders studied the fall of Rome which fell for moral reasons as well as fiscal. They wanted a culture of life NOT death.
Report Post »jim
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:10amThe second most dangerous place for an African American is the South Side of Chicago.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:08amHis picture and the word ‘leader’ should NEVER be used in the same sentence! Leaders are capable of quick, decisive decisions, they are strong where Barry on the other hand is slow to respond, wishy washy, flaccid and weak–any resemblance to the word ‘leader’ here? I didn’t think so!
Report Post »FlameKeepersUSA
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:07amhttp://www.flamekeepersusa.com
Abortion is murder, plain and simple! Nothing more than modern day EUGENICS!
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:05amOnce again we witness emotional laden posts filled with loaded language that doesn’t really mean anything. You have offered no valid criticism of abortion and I see no reason why it should be regarded as murder. To the point where the fetus is entirely dependent on the carrier and lacks proper awareness, abortion should be completely the mothers choice.
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:16am@ Catharsis: If you are an atheist and believe the religion of evolution, then your stance makes sense. (Yes, evolution is a religion, being a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the universe.)
Those of us who believe in God and the truth of the Bible as His inspired Word understand that we are created beings designed to commune with God. Deep in your heart you know this is true. The Bible tells us that God knows us in the womb; from the moment of conception we are fully human and precious to Him. That is why abortion is murder.
Report Post »RedPillPatriot
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:24pm@Catharsis
I don’t know if you believe what you say, but I bet it‘s out of defense for something you have done or deep down you don’t believe. If you search your heart, you will realize you are lying to yourself! Do you really want to meet God someday and try to justify your stance on abortion to him? I feel comfortable justifying mine. I truly hope someday you reconsider!
Report Post »Philippians2_10
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:29pmCatharsis: “Please. Murder? That’s a loaded word, and you have no idea what you are talking about. An abortion occurring within the first trimester should carry no moral significance whatsoever.”
I supposed you are the moral authority to say what is right and what is wrong, in order to make such a statement? I know that I’m not the authority on morality either, but the Word of God is. Isaiah 5:20 “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” The slaughter of the innocent is nothing less than murder.
Catharsis: “You have offered no valid criticism of abortion and I see no reason why it should be regarded as murder. To the point where the fetus is entirely dependent on the carrier and lacks proper awareness, abortion should be completely the mothers choice.”
So because the fetus is entirely dependent on the carrier and lacks proper awareness abortion should be viewed as acceptable. That rational is the same as the argument you are criticizing regarding eugenics. If a mentally retarded person or elderly person are completely dependent on someone, and may lack “proper awareness”, should their lives also be extinguished at the “choice” of another?
Pslam 22:10 “I was cast upon You from birth. From My mother’s womb You have been My God.”
Psalm 139:13-15 “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
A woman makes a choice when she decides to have intercourse with a man. Choosing to murder a unborn child out of the inconvenience that it will create on her life, is the most selfish and disgusting “choice” a person could ever make.
Report Post »lakecrazy
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:06amIf you are not pro life, watch the following videos: http://youtu.be/cjNo_0cW-ek
Report Post »Bermuda Onion
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:00amThe south side kid. That’s what he called himself.
Report Post »Hugie 59 PA
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:00amPresidents have little to do with moving a pro life agenda. If legislation is passed supporting the unfunding of Planned Parenthood reaches his or her desk then and only then does the president have the power to sing the bill inot law. They can provide funding to third world countries to increase abortion. Obama once said at Notre Dame he would like to see abortion rare, however, his actions are pro death as reflected in Obamacare and increases in funding to expand abortion services under the guise of healthcare.
Report Post »Barry Soetoro
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:55amAre they running this in Kenya?
Report Post »UncleBuck
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:54amWow, that ad may make me rethink my position on abortion….
Report Post »quarter horseman
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:19amLOL! Me too, not really.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:25amrethink……….ha ha funny!
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:54amer..ah..maybe not the best example to use…er…ah..wouldn’t they of been better off…I mean we are trying to point out abortion is a BAD thing right?
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:22amHehehehe! Excellent observation!
Report Post »Nervous Investor
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:31amSuch art …. ROFLMAO !!!!!!!
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:45am@TEDDRUNK~~~ How funny! Before I read your comment, I was just thinking, “Too bad he wasn’t.” And, here you are with your message!
WA-HOO!!!!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:53amIt’s appropriate, his whole presidency has been an abortion.
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:34amWish we could “abort” BHO’s term!
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:09amAbortions have been way too easy to obtain so, for many (regardless of color) it is used as their birth control. Sad, but true.
Report Post »TheAnswerIs42
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:14am@beebacksoon
“Abortions have been way too easy to obtain so, for many (regardless of color) it is used as their birth control. Sad, but true.”
Unfortunately, you are very right on this. My mother worked for the Department of Human Services when I was a child, first in eligibility, then later as a social worker. She had plenty of stories about having to call security when she told some woman that the state would not pay for her abortion since she had reached the limit that year. It is sad, very sad.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:52amIts murder plain and simple.
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ISeeDanger.com
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:56amIf he was wearing a “Weatherproof” jacket, they would them take it down. (The Times Square Ad). Let’s just see how this goes over at the top. Got to give them credit for creativity.
http://www.ISeeDanger.com
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:04amWe don’t even know where he stands on this issue anymore. This guy is the all-time leader in flip flops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=619wI12Ky20
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:07amI think this is a great message targeted at a specific demographic. Using Obama is something the audience will relate to. What will be interesting is Obama’s reaction.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:18amI can’t wait to see the reaction to this one.
Report Post »LoisWLaw
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:25amNo one is mentioning anything about the fact that “Obamacare” pays for abortions.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:31amWhat the eff is wrong with these people Obama isn’t our leader no president is our leader THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE THE LEADER. It says alot to the nature of those who look to our elected officals as leaders THEY’RE NOT. If you want to be lead you’re obviously sheep.
Report Post »This nation has way tooooo many sheep our elected officals are there to represent us WE‘RE THE LEADERS AND IT’S TIME TO START LEADING AGAIN.
trolltrainer
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:31amLowislaw,
Why would anyone mention that? It is common knowledge but really has nothing to do with this story.
Report Post »BuckOfama
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:34amHaHa…..
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:37amI think this one will send the wrong message. Watch next week the average time goes from every 21 sec to every 15 sec.
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:41am@smithclar3nc3
He is the leader of the military. Or supposed to be. No matter how you want to slice it, if there is a true war and we need direction, we will not go to the PEOPLE, we will go to the elected representative to be the leader of the military and our defence.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:51amThe truth hurts…This won’t be up for long.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:00amOh to be a fly on the wall when he gets this call…
Report Post »NotaLemming
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:01amNo voice for Babies!
Report Post »Check out this short Video.
Every Person Deserves a Voice, Except the Baby – Atlanta Pro-Abortion March 2-26-2011 http://t.co/6V53M4S
NotaLemming
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:02amEvery Person Deserves a Voice, Except the Baby – Atlanta Pro-Abortion March 2-26-2011 http://t.co/6V53M4S
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:18amAbortion is murder, and at the scale it is being done here, it is genocide! America, do you realize we’ve put more babies to death, than Hiltler killed in the holocaust? I don’t want my taxes spent on this, yet I have no say…tell me this:
Who died and made women God, to reign supreme over life and death? Babies are not yours, they are God’s children, you have no right to murder them. I have NEVER voted for a Democrat in my life, for just that one reason, but that is not the only one.
I wonder if the black population has ever stopped to think how many of their own race they have killed, stats show that the black population would be 50% larger, if not for abortion, what a waste.
I pray America turns this genocide around, and we stop the madness soon!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:41amJoker,
Report Post »How much military experience does Obama have? Less than zero. Since a President is the supposed commander and cheif of the military wouldn‘t it be in our country’s best interest establish an amendment that require a presidental candidate have military service in order to run for the office of President. And while we‘re at it shouldn’t the practice of executive order(which is not in the Constitution) be abolished. Senator Obama spoke out against executive order over and over again But President Obama says hhe has the right since past President used it. He points to past unconstitutional actions to justify his own.
Marylou7
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:09amwildjoker5
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:37am
I think this one will send the wrong message. Watch next week the average time goes from every 21 sec to every 15 sec
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That was my exact reaction. If this wasn’t such a serious matter I would laugh.
Report Post »GODSAMERICA
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:14am@Ironmaan
Report Post »You are absolutely correct of course. However, I am totally and completely against abortion but to me I would question the purpose of this Life Always group since an ad using obama as a reason to stop abortion, borders on promoting abortion. Can any one of us envision and fathom the idea of more that one obama? That would be a disaster and a travesty beyond all disaters and travesties!
HillBillySam1
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:17amI absolutely love the ad!!! They could not have picked a more reluctant representative for the pro-life message!! The only way it could get better is to have this ad posted outside every Planned Parenthood facility in America…….just to remind Planned Parenthood that our beloved Dear Leader is still “proud of all the wonderful work that they do”.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:18amA loaded word Catharsis, what a bunch of tripe you spew! Abortion IS MURDER, I don’t care what trimester it happens in…this is the taking of a life! You think that fetus is not ALIVE? You putred piece of dung!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:20am@ CATHARSIS………….I am a physician. Have you seen a 4d scan of a child in the late stages of the first trimester? Or have you seen an aborted fetus from the first trimester. The link below is an example of your “liver” or “kidney”. Have you ever seen a fetus undulate in pain as it is chemically burned by a saline solution.? Warning the link I have posted contains graphic images of aborted 1st trimester fetuses. I am sorry to have to post this but people like CATHARSIS and their erroneous information and reasoning make me sick on this issue. The truth must be told and displayed in regard to what abortion is and does to little babies. The second link is 4D images for those who want to avoid the horror of real photographs of an abortion.
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/photosbyage/index2.htm
Report Post »http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/photosbyage/index2.htm
Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:26amwatchtheotherhand, good doctor, thank you for that post, I am horrified by it, but it goes to show the REAL truth about murder of babies. I sure hope these murderous retreads change their minds somehow, because their actions taint all of us as a nation. thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:30am@smithclar3nc3
As much as I wish he wasn’t my CIC, we shouldn’t change anything just because he is inept. I don’t like the lack of experience, but if we do something for him, when someone compitent comes in and the Dems get scared, they try to yank the power from CIC “just incase.” Leave it as is and hopefully the Generals and the NCOs are good enough to make up for Obamas NO QUALIFICATION to be a leader.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:47amThou shall not murder! Anyone who has voted for a Democrat (since Roe v. Wade), or is a current Democrat, or who thinks abortion is not murder, is guilty of the sin of MURDER! My conscience is clear, is yours? You dumbocrits care more about birds, bees and trees, than the sanctity of a human life, therefore, you are not worthy of being called a human being! Put that in your bong and smoke it peanuts! BTW, where is Catharsis now, I hope curled up into a fetal position sucking ‘it’s’ thumb, gone mad, or simply gone away! I would think since ‘it’ supports the procedure so highly, it has had an abortion, or two itself!?!?!? You Dumbocrits WILL ANSWER for your murderous ways! But I still love you, I just hate your sin!
Report Post »getalong
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:02amAre you kidding me? This is a man who refused to call a 5 month old unborn child who survived a botched partial birth abortion a fetus. As one of his first official acts as president he lifted the ban on partial birth abortions, and opened up “stem-cell” research on 1,000′s of embryos. So where do the aborted embryos and fetuses go to after they are sucked out of a woman? A couple of days ago, I saw an ad for a beauty lotion that used “stem cells” in their product. I want to know what abortion clinics do with the thousands of dead embryos and fetuses they extract each day. Anybody have any answers?
Report Post »freeus
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:21amGiven the President’s stance on abortion, I am surprised and grateful Barry’s daughters, Sasha and Malia, are survivors of Roe v. Wade.
Report Post »tradexpertbuysell
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:36amBlack History Month should include education on Margaret Sanger and who the real enemies of the black community are!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:38am@ Uncle Crusty,
AMEN!!!!! I can never understand how anyone who calls themself a Christian could possibly be for murdering God’s creation and gift of life. And, like you, I could never vote for anyone who thinks murdering babies in the womb is a woman’s right. It is wrong on so many levels and is a reflection of the decay of our society.
Report Post »RedPillPatriot
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:44amUncle Crusty I could not have said it better! There is no issue more important than the abortion issue.
I am 100% pro-choice the women has the choice to keep her legs closed!! After that, it‘s God’s choice! Anyone who does not have a child and supports abortion is confused, delusional, and being lied to. Anyone who has a child and still supports abortion is pure EVIL! God will judge all people who perform, support, or have abortions equally!.. And I sure would not want to be in those shoes on judgement Day!!
One more thing, in the case of rape, incest, and the mothers life is in danger… Murdering a child will not make any of those things better! It is not the child’s fault! All those cases are horrible and make up about .005% of the cases. But they still don’t justify murdering a baby.
God bless babies and the real men and women who stand up for them! I have a child nearing the age that she will learn what abortion is. I am truely heartbroken for the day that she finds out that half this country supports and is complicit in the murdering of children!
How could that not change her view of the world, and ruin her innocence!
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:47amIndeed COPATRIOTS, the decay of our country started in the late 1800′s – it is called progressivism! These minions of satan have got to go!
Report Post »nomorpc4me
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:47amI LOVE THIS BILLBOARD!!! Of course, Obama will argue that his mother didn’t have a “choice” when he was a “mass of tissue” in “HER” body.
Report Post »freeus
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 11:52amOne in every 21 minutes is surprising. I wonder how they can up with this number.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:01pmGood redpillpatriot! I am now wondering where Catharsis’ post went? It has disappeared from this page? Did ‘it’ withdraw the comment??????
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:04pm@ UNCLE……Thanks my friend I debated whether or not to post what I did but when lies are promulgated like they are sometimes the ugly and horrible truth needs to be told. Thanks again my friend keep up the good fight!
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:05pmUncle crusty
Republicans are just as guilty as the democrats regarding abortion.
Prolifeprofiles.com if you don’t believe me.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:11pmthanks, and you too keep up the fight, good doctor, our country and lives ARE worth saving!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 12:33pm@ SHYMAN,
Sadly, you are right. There is sometimes no true conservative to vote for on the ticket. I haven’t always done with but now (since the advent of the internet) I research every single candidate and their position on abortion. Of course, I would never vote Democrat. But if the Republican candidate is pro-murdering of babies, I vote for neither and leave that spot blank.
I don’t live in Massachusetts but with all the fanfare on Scott Brown I also researched his position. I didn’t like him before he was elected. My research was proven accurate as it is now clear he is a RINO.
God Bless You, Blazers! You all make me proud to be an American!
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:17pmPlease read Jerimiah 13 1-15. This will be our fate for turning our backs on the Lord our God in Heaven.
Report Post »Kalshion
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:17pmTo bad the pro-life groups are to blind to the future ramifications if abortion was to ever become illegal… oh well.. maybe they’ll figure it out (and before someone bashs me, I’m against abortion, but I know what’ll happen if it becomes illegal)
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 1:24pm@tradexpertbuysell
You betcha! That woman hated anyone who wasn’t as white as she was. She hated “the poor”. Classic liberal fallacious reasoning.
Report Post »RJO
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:18pmWonderful! Reality….although I’m having a difficult time equating the word “Leader” with the posted image. The POINT is well-served.
I’m sure that the LameStream media will spin this to reflect “controversy” as they always do with something that threatens there political and cultural world view. Ah yes….the loveable, adorable LameStream media…..
For decades, liberal news media have been able to strangle, smother and spike news stories they didn’t like; defining what “news” was and what it wasn’t.
Objectivity is often sacrificed for subjective relevance.
A majority of news coverage related to abortion and the pro-life movement is spun and framed to reflect a political template. Civil, peaceful, massive public demonstrations in defense of life are habitually ignored. The growing majority status and cultural impact of said movement fails a media litmus test of relevance as well.
Regardless, the scale of death over 38 years is staggering and is relevant. Individuals, who are marginalized, questioned on personal motivation and face contempt for defending unborn life, are relevant.
Factual, scientific evidence – including heartbeat, sleep patterns, gender, the feeling of inflicted pain, 3-D ultrasound and many others – rarely challenged, are relevant. Unable to repudiate this relevancy, rebuttals generally rely on rhetorical justifications or rare circumstance; designed to undercut any compelling empathy for, or any meritorious value of the unborn human being.
Roe vs. Wade is crumbling under the weight of its antiquated ignorance – perpetually frozen to 1973 understanding and knowledge.
Information and images, able to pierce media filters, starkly remind us of what’s been tolerated, encouraged and subsidized; relevantly identifying the unjust denial of a fundamental, inalienable right from which all other rights flow.
Media bias on this issue and others plays a significant role in journalism’s self-inflicted decline. The restoration of credibility for a majority of national and regional news media, electronic and print, is achievable.
The long way back in re-establishing public trust begins with the relevant principles of professional integrity and honesty – and the ability to openly acknowledge previous and existing premeditated bias.
Any expectation for sincere media transformation appears improbable.
The struggle remains.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 2:52pmsure is…always has been.
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 3:59pm@WATCHTHEOTHERHAND
Report Post »Please; the knee-jerk reaction is to look away in disgust at such images, however no amount of gore can sway me from a stance that is grounded in considering the level of sentience and awareness of the fetus, not what it’s made of. Furthermore, have you ever consumed a piece of flesh? The slaughter of non-human animals is both extremely grisly, and the taking of a life without provocation, yet I see no one here proclaiming the eating of non-human animals as being wrong. I do, however, see countless posts propounding that abortion is murder because it’s taking a life. Irony and hypocrisy are abound today.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 4:55pm@ CATHARSIS…………..you would implicate yourself as believing that the killing of an animal for food consumption is murder on par with intentionally ending the life of a human child? Let me ask you since you are so grounded in science, How is life scientifically defined? And second so if the fetus doesn’t “feel anything” it is OK (I am not saying you are right on that point just using your “logic”)? You know that there is a medical condition that some have been born with where they lack any pain receptors whatsoever. They feel absolutely no pain. Is it OK to kill them, since they feel nothing? How about the mentally retarded that may not self aware as you like to define it. OK to off them? At 10 weeks a child has fully formed feet and hands. A fully functioning cardiovascular system. A neurological system that is function. Does this little child have a functioning brain like an adult does? Of course not. But neither does a new born infant or a 2 year old. Is the new born self aware? No it is not in the manner you want to use as a criteria for abortion. Funny how you display your disgust at killing an animal for food consumption, but don’t seem to bat an eye at killing a human child in the womb “as long as it is the first trimester” (your qualification)…………….The one thing you have said that I do agree with —-”Irony and hypocrisy are abound today.”
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 5:43pm@WATCHTHEOTHERHAND
Note that I simply supplied a vague description of the nature of systematic animal slaughter. I never stated my opinion. It is grisly, and it is – without provocation – the death of an innocent sentient being. For reasons I cannot fully expound upon here, I do not grant personhood to a non sentient fetus entirely dependent on it’s carrier. The fetus is indeed a human being, but it is not an human person. I do not believe that ending a human life under severely strict circumstances is, by default, murder. A fetus within a given span of time lacks the proper qualifications to attain this status by lacking self-awarness, desire or self-motivation, consciousness extending to the experience of pain and so on. The former criteria in my opinion renders the women carrying the fetus in full control of the situation. Abortion isn’t pretty, nor is it something that I like to see happen, but I fully support the individuals choice to have one, and it must remain legal so as to ensure better care for women who undergo an abortion. A women has the right to control her own body and deny this right to an unaware dependent, and nobody should be legally bound and coerced to see through the pregnancy.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:26pm@
Catharsis
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 5:43pm
@ Catharsis
“Note that I simply supplied a vague description of the nature of systematic animal slaughter. I never stated my opinion. It is grisly, and it is – without provocation – the death of an innocent sentient being. For reasons I cannot fully expound upon here, I do not grant personhood to a non sentient fetus entirely dependent on it’s carrier. The fetus is indeed a human being, but it is not an human person. I do not believe that ending a human life under severely strict circumstances is, by default, murder. A fetus within a given span of time lacks the proper qualifications to attain this status by lacking self-awarness, desire or self-motivation, consciousness extending to the experience of pain and so on. The former criteria in my opinion renders the women carrying the fetus in full control of the situation. Abortion isn’t pretty, nor is it something that I like to see happen, but I fully support the individuals choice to have one, and it must remain legal so as to ensure better care for women who undergo an abortion. A women has the right to control her own body and deny this right to an unaware dependent, and nobody should be legally bound and coerced to see through the pregnancy.”
“Personhood” is an arbitrary term….period. Established and injected into the justification of Roe v Wade, Harry Blackmun attempted to usurp any and all right to life for the unborn…deemed not to be “persons.” This determination was and remains a relative concept….. in that under federal law the unborn human being have been stripped of innate value, now have the burden of “value” based on “wontedness.“ If one is ”wanted” through a self-described analysis (mother of the child) the child has value….if not…the child has the value of a discarded toe-nail.
A separate, unique individual dies as the result of abortion. They are not an appendage…as you were were not an appendage at your stage of life, prior to birth. Semantics and skilled word-smithing (baby-fetus….Black – “N”) and many other examples, have led to and allowed the denial of the most basic of rights…..the right to continue his or her life without being subjected to the “value” determination of others.
We have been down this slippery slope far too often…….Roe v Wade is indeed crumbling under the weight of its own ignorance…..perpetually frozen to 1973 knowledge and understanding.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:26pm@ CATHARSIS……………”Abortion isn’t pretty, nor is it something that I like to see happen, but I fully support the individuals choice to have one, and it must remain legal so as to ensure better care for women who undergo an abortion.” —–Why is abortion never a pretty thing if it is an unaware, non-feeling lump of tissue like a “kidney” or “liver”? Better care? Abortion is 4 times more deadly to a woman than childbirth. It also results in infertility and breast cancer later in life commonly known as the “ABC” link. There are also very well documented emotional and psychological consequences stemming from abortion such as post-abortion syndrome, anxiety, guilt, anger, depression, night terrors, and hallucinations.
“A women has the right to control her own body and deny this right to an unaware dependent.” —– First of all a body part is defined as sharing a common genetic code with the rest of the body. The fetus most certainly does not. It has a completely different and separate genetic code. This is in fact why a mother of subsequent children will be tested for the presence of the Rh factor that would cause her immune system to attack the fetus as foreign if not suppressed by medicine. Hardly, does the mother’s own body recognize it as part of the body in this case. Secondly, a baby does feel pain in the first trimester. Abortion worker Kathy Sparks….”Even as early as 12 weeks a baby is totally formed…………………and it feels pain.” Self awareness is not a recognized scientific criteria for life whatsoever, nor has it ever been. Homeostasis, organization, metabolism, growth, adaption, response to stimuli, reproduction. In your world I guess plants are not living?
” I do not grant person-hood to a non sentient fetus entirely dependent on it’s carrier.” ——- At what point do you confer that person-hood? Arbitrarily in the 2nd trimester? What exists in the 2nd that doesn’t exist in the first that you use to justify killing the fetus? Not one thing. You could make the same argument for 2nd trimester as you do for the first and many pro-abortion proponents do !
“A women has the right to control her own body and deny this right to an unaware dependent,” —— Since when does survival on ones own serve as a criteria for person-hood? Science has changed the viability stage of a baby with every passing year. Has their person-hood changed with this artificial maintaining of the child. Or is it still a nonperson because it relies on machines to help it breathe?
“and nobody should be legally bound and coerced to see through the pregnancy.” —— No one has the right to chose murder. You are legally bound and coerced into all types of morality, as am I. If the pregnancy was not desired then the woman should not have engaged in a behavior that could have resulted in it. I may not want to see through a prison sentence. I should not be legally bound and coerced to see it through based on your morality. But then again, maybe I shouldn’t have committed a crime.
” I do not believe that ending a human life under severely strict circumstances is, by default, murder” —- So am I to understand you do see it as a human life? By then your own admission it is murder as murder is defined as the killing of another human being as premeditated. I read nothing in any definition that recognizes an artificial separation of person and life as you have given. life is, by it’s own virtue of being called life, valuable and protected under the constitution. As it is the pursuit of life not person-hood that is protected.
Your is a convoluted and artificial attempt at trying to justify an action that by every known definition is murder. Your separation of life from person-hood leaves one with an arbitrary and ambiguous arena of worth and value as can been seen in you desiring to attribute a time table for abortion according to your definitions of person-hood and therefore worth of protection. The fact that you cannot see the error in this line of reasoning demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of life and value as an individual human being worthy of protecting.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 6:51pmCatharsis…read all the post from you and watchtheotherhand…you lost!…in Science today…we learned that when the male sperm cell integrates with the female egg cell they make a baby at conception…even my fifth grader knows its the making of a baby…why don’t you? and when you abort those intergrated cells from a woman’s body…you are killing a baby!
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:21pmwow..I love it ! what went wrong…..
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:40pmGODLOVINMOM please go away unless you have something of substance to write.
@ WATCHTHEOTHERHAND
The potentiality of a fetus is irrelevant. Potentiality is not actuality; it is a possibility, and a hypothetical one at that. Prior to the point of birth there exist no discrete entity – no self-autonomity and no self-ownership is ascribed until birth. In so long as the fetus is physically contained within the woman’s body, nourished by the food she eats, sustained by the air she breaths, and subject to her circulatory and respiratory system the fetus is not a self-owner, and cannot be granted individual rights. It remains a part of the woman – thus it is subject to her discretion. Because there is no other objective point at which there is such a clear and substantial change other than the point of conception, birth becomes the logical dividing line between legality and illegality.
Furthermore, the perceived gradual development of the fetus further substantiates the claim that it is not a person, but rather a potential one; in the process of becoming. This process, however, is not sufficient a base to squelch abortion rights. Furthermore you speak of responsibility and the choice the women made to engage in such an act, but the real question is is the fetus an individual toward whom obligations can be incurred? I propose that a fetus lacks such qualities, thus the issue of responsibility becomes moot. Anyways, can you not contend then that in cases of rape and incest abortion is not justified?
To say it again, the fetus has no claim to the woman’s body. The fact that it is a matter of life and death says nothing as rights are not granted based on need. Rights come from self-ownership, the right over our own body and all that comes with it. It is the woman’s rights all together that are being denied by antiabortionists as her autonomy is stripped from her.
Report Post »Catharsis
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 7:50pmI meant: Anyways, can you not contend then that in cases of rape and incest abortion is justified?
Furthermore:
From Guttmacher Institute:
“The risk of abortion complications is minimal: Fewer than 0.3% of abortion patients experience a complication that requires hospitalization.
Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of such problems as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or birth defect, and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.
Exhaustive reviews by panels convened by the U.S. and British governments have concluded that there is no association between abortion and breast cancer. There is also no indication that abortion is a risk factor for other cancers.
In repeated studies since the early 1980s, leading experts have concluded that abortion does not pose a hazard to women’s mental health.
The risk of death associated with abortion increases with the length of pregnancy, from one death for every one million abortions at or before eight weeks to one per 29,000 at 16-20 weeks-and one per 11,000 at 21 or more weeks.
Fifty-eight percent of abortion patients say they would have liked to have had their abortion earlier. Nearly 60% of women who experienced a delay in obtaining an abortion cite the time it took to make arrangements and raise money”
Report Post »veruca salt
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:32pmIt would sure be a shame to abort the next Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson. The Blaze could potentially lose an entire demographic of boogeymen.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:40pm@ CATHARSIS……………”The potentiality of a fetus is irrelevant.” —–Who said potential anything, I sure did not?
“Potentiality is not actuality; it is a possibility, and a hypothetical one at that” —- So it is only hypothetical that the fetus will become a “person” if left alone? Seems like that is pretty much established fact as I am pretty sure that the embryo to fetus to infant doesn’t produce anything but a human. Of course a miscarriage can occur but this is due to some developmental problem of one type or another. So it is only hypothetical in that you don’t recognize that it cannot become anything but a human being and this is proven about 6.5 billion times in our lifetime.
“Prior to the point of birth there exist no discrete entity – no self-autonomy and no self-ownership is ascribed until birth.” —– No discrete entity????? science recognizes it as a discrete “entity” with a unique genetic code and determined sex at birth. As far as self-autonomy when I have someone under anesthesia they have no self-autonomy. I am in complete control they are unconscious and unaware. I would argue most people would consider me a murderer if I took their life while they were in that state. No self-ownership until birth? Is this true simply because it is what you state? Simply because they cannot state for themselves they would like to continue the process that would naturally continue if they were simply just left alone, you think them unworthy to receive the gift you did. Since when did being wanted determine the value of life and therefore the taking of a life, called murder?
“In so long as the fetus is physically contained within the woman’s body, nourished by the food she eats, sustained by the air she breaths, and subject to her circulatory and respiratory system the fetus is not a self-owner, and cannot be granted individual rights.” —- An infant is completely dependent on its mother. If left alone it will die every time. So because they infant gets its food from breast milk it has no rights to life? You also realize that by your definition a child that is in the last days of pregnancy could be murdered according to your criteria as it still receives nutrients from the mother, yet you claimed to be against the later term abortions so I fail to see how these criteria are espoused to the first trimester, but are not to the later trimester.
“birth becomes the logical dividing line between legality and illegality” ——- Legal doesn’t mean moral or ethical or make it not murder. So I am to believe that 1 day before a birth the child is OK to be terminated, but because it passes through the birth canal and begins breathing air it now is called murder? Do you actually think this stuff through? What about the child born at 22 weeks verses the child aborted at 26 weeks? The younger one is a “person” and the older one is not?
“the perceived gradual development of the fetus further substantiates the claim that it is not a person” What logic is this???? Because it develops in stages it is not a human being worthy of protection? That was not a statement as much as it was your opinion. No fly there at all. I would pose to you that the development is not that gradual. The entire fetus is fully formed by the END of the first trimester. By the time most women know they are even pregnant the child has a rudimentary nervous system and heart.
“This process, however, is not sufficient a base to squelch abortion rights” —– What rights? The Roe v Wade decision was made based on a right to privacy. I challenge you right now among the many other questions you have avoided and not answered to paste and copy for me where the constitution or the declaration of independence grants a right to privacy. However, you and I both know it grants the right to life.
“To say it again, the fetus has no claim to the woman’s body” —– Agreed ! But i don’t see to many fetuses trying to abort their mothers. I would contend that neither does the mother have claim to the life of a separate and unique child because that child happens to be in her womb.
” Rights come from self-ownership, the right over our own body and all that comes with it.” —- According to our founding document our rights come from our Creator. Not because you are self-owning. You attribute a certain sacredness to your body and the “rights” that come with that to that point I would agree, but then you would deny those rights you enjoy to the most innocent and helpless of our existence due to some contrived notion of person-hood and self sustaining survival. This amounts to nothing more than a carefully constructed defense of abortion rather than a true reflection of reality.
” It is the woman’s rights all together that are being denied by antiabortionists as her autonomy is stripped from her.” —– To protect one persons rights against abuse and oppression is not to deny another persons right but rather to uphold both. Only then is the sanctity and sacredness of all life put in it’s rightful place.
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 8:54pm@ CATHARSIS ………….. in regard to abortion and potential dangers here is my source
11 of 12 American studies followed women who have had an abortion………
Janice Shaw Crouse, PhD “Unsafe, deadly and legal: On abortion 30 years after roe v wade” Touchstone 2003 pp15-16
“Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of such problems as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or birth defect, and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.” —- I did not specify that my comment was 1st trimester only.
“In repeated studies since the early 1980s, leading experts have concluded that abortion does not pose a hazard to women’s mental health.” —–http://www.lifenews.com/2010/09/28/nat-6733/ ——just one of hundreds of studies that support what I have stated. Your assertions are from limited studies and sample groups and also have been shown to be flawed in their design due to some “researchers” that have had a desire to see a “certain outcome” be substantiated.
“The risk of death associated with abortion increases with the length of pregnancy, from one death for every one million abortions at or before eight weeks to one per 29,000 at 16-20 weeks-and one per 11,000 at 21 or more weeks.” —– http://www.foothillsprc.org/risks.php
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Posted on March 29, 2011 at 9:20pmTwo weeks ago, I had one of the most ASTOUNDING opportunities in my LIFE! My Granddaughter had her first ultra sound. The Doctor said she was about 8/10 weeks pregnant. We watched as the monitor showed us a “cavity” which she described as the womb. Seeing NOTHING that resembled a BABY, she zeroed in on a TINY SPECK in one corner. She enlarged it, and my heart leapt with joy!
Report Post »There was 5 family members watching this miracle and no one had dry eyes! The baby was about 2 inches long and looked like a lima bean with little undeveloped appendages. She further enlarged it and a TINY light came on, flashing like a firefly’s fanny! OUR BABY! Its heart was beating 170 beats a minute! HOW grateful I am just to be a small part of such a miracle! God performs MIRACLES every day! But the miracle of BIRTH is by FAR the greatest thing he created! EVERY baby is a GIFT FROM GOD! No matter HOW it is conceived! As soon as that little tadpole “marries” the egg, it is VIABLE! If you do not WANT the baby, you can make that choice AFTER it is born! Give it the chance to “GROW without interference. Give that precious life the RIGHT to live! Someday it may return the favor and save YOUR LIFE!
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:33pm@ CATHARSIS………….I await your rebuttal. I would welcome any study you would like to espouse contradicting what I have stated. Friendly word of warning though. If you are going to pick a study do your homework. You should know with a topic as controversial and politically charged as this one that many seek to slant the evidence and manipulate data. So beware. Because many studies have been shown to be erroneous based on small sample groups and flawed designs and methods. They are a dime a dozen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on March 29, 2011 at 10:57pmHere’s some substance for ya…ABORTION IS KILLING BABIES!
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