Is Bachmann Crazy For Believing God Has Given Her a ‘Sense of Assurance’ to Run for the Presidency?
- Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:44pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann has spoken candidly about her Christian faith in the past. In fact, her openness has often made her a target for journalists and bloggers who do not seem to understand her beliefs. As we covered last week, some have taken these faith-based attacks to elevated levels.
Yesterday, the GOP presidential contender, once again, ignited chatter when she answered a question about her beliefs on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” When asked by host Bob Schieffer if she has prayed regarding past political runs, she responded affirmatively. She also said that she has a “sense of assurance” that God wants her to run in 2012. According to UPI, she went on to further discuss her faith:
Bachmann told CBS’ “Face the Nation” she “gave my heart to Jesus Christ” at age 16 and prayed to God about seeking political office on the state and federal levels.
“That’s really what that means,” she said. “It means that — that I have a sense of assurance about the direction I think that God is speaking into my heart that I should go.”
In response to these statements, some outlets seemed perplexed. Newser quipped:
Who knew God kept tabs on GOP party politics? Apparently, he gives Michele Bachmann an inner “sense” about what office to seek when she consults him…
The presidential candidate did not discuss God’s feelings about the reported federal subsidies her family has received—the same kind of subsidies she’s opposed to.
The Daily Beast poked fun at Bachmann’s statements as well:
Are you there God? It’s your favorite Republican politician, Michele Bachmann. The congresswoman revealed to Bob Schieffer on Face the Nation that it was God that gave her a “sense” to run for president. The Tea Party favorite, however, did not disclose whether this is a legal campaign endorsement.
Bachmann critic Bill Prendergast seems to have some serious worries over the politician’s ongoing public pronouncements about her reliance upon God. In a recent CNN blog post, he was quoted as saying:
That’s incredible to me, that there’s so much space devoted to Michele Bachmann after New Hampshire—but none of the news media seems to have turned up the fact that she claimed publicly that Jesus Christ came to her directly–and sent her prophetic visions, visions of the future complete with visuals.
And it’s incredible to me that current news media profiles don’t mention Bachmann’s other public claim: that God comes to her at regular intervals throughout her life—and gives her direct, verbal instructions on what to action to take. And that she told the church that this kind of stuff happened to her all the time, throughout her life.
While Bachmann’s statements that the Lord speaks her may seem odd to non-believers, this notion — that God connects with human beings — is central to most Christian denominations. Thus, it’s not atypical to hear others making similar pronouncements. Below, you can see Bachmann comment on God’s “endorsement” of her White House run:
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Texas woman56
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:08pmI think she feels God has called her to run for president. That does not mean that she thinks she is going to get it.
Report Post »Praise!
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:35pmIf you belive what you say, you do not belive Jesus.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:39pmRight, many are called, but few are chosen!
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pmThere is nothing wrong with praying and asking the Lord for guidance. When it starts to look like that Saturday Night live sketch where the woman is asking Jesus for help opening the mayo jar, then before she mops the floor–that’s a bit much. Not saying that’s here, but it’s worth a watch.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pmOh boy – I love these types of threads – full of baseless claims and Sky-people stories.
Keep the posts coming!!!
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:22pmYou don’t love anyone but yourself.
Report Post »ISRAELISOURFRIEND
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:24pmI love you? Really???
Where does love come from?
Are you becoming like us?
1 John 4:7
Report Post »[ God’s Love and Ours ] Dear friends, let us love one another, for LOVE COMES FROM GOD. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
HorseCrazy
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:25pmyou will be in my prayers. unfortunate that you do not live with the peace and love that those of faith have and I will pray that someday you will find it. it is a wonderful thing. you cannot see love because it is a not tangible, you cannot touch it however we all know it exists. the same is faith in God, we Christians see God all around us in His wonderful beautiful creation that is earth. God is love, open your eyes and most importantly your heart to it and you will have Peace beyond your wildest imagination.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:25pmYour log in name fits you very well. All except the Thinker part. You are not as smart as you think you are but good luck anyway.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:33pmI‘ve always wondered why Atheists can’t seem to stay away from Christians. I mean, I‘m not a Hindu but I really don’t feel compelled to go to Hindu places and berate them on how Shiva isn’t going to save them or to mock them that they are fools.
I don’t believe in the 9-11 truther stuff. But, I don’t make a hobby out of shooting holes in their theories every day. I’m not a Mormon, but I don’t feel a need to mock them.
Yet, show me an atheist and I’ll show you a bitter, arrogant and spiteful little person who cackles with joy at the opportunity to dig at someone much like someone who was picked on feels the need to see his bullies suffer retribution. I can’t explain it really. I wish I know why you can’t be content in your atheism. (I think I know, but I’m not gonna go all brimstone here.)
Do you have venom other people for other reasons the same way you have Christians? Just curious.
Report Post »selenesteets
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:43pmIf you want to be a representative of your worldview, which you claim to be superior to all others, I would think that you would want to reflect well on atheism.
Simply from a pragmatic point of view, looking over this thread, it seems your view is failing you, in that you do not appear to be morally or emotionally sound. This is then an argument for religion, on the basis of pragmatism.
You speak of burden of proof. You say that as though “I need to say nothing, only you must have a point’. That is not what “burden of proof” means. Burden of proof refers to the idea that any person ASSERTING A CLAIM must provide proof for said claim. It does not mean that in a debate, only one side must be able to present a point. Atheism asserts that claim that there is no God. The burden of proof is on you to support that claim. Christians believe in God, specifically Jesus related, and the burden of proof is on them to support that.
What you are doing here is the Atheist version of evangelizing. It’s not a very good approach, telling everybody they are stupid. I’m strictly a Science believer myself, I very much understand the intellectual need for empirical and mathematical proof. Your poor behavior falls under the category of empirical evidence.
Report Post »EnoughBS
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:49pmRoth- glad to meet you. I’m one of those atheists. And no, I don’t have a problem with Bachmann or Romney- as long as they are capable of getting the job done and fixing our debt/spending problems.
Report Post »Charlie Justice
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:28pmlib-ath-cri-thinker….I can certainly see why you think you evolved from a monkey.
Report Post »tommy_pete
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:43pmI find that your mockery of folks who talk to your self described “sky-people” somewhat amusing. The fact that YOU are having a WRITTEN discussion with “electron-people” to be even more amusing. Seems that you have this irrational belief that there are actually real people you are conversing with. Have YOU ever met them before?? Perhaps it’s you that are delusional??
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:53pmMe too, Liberal-atheist-critical-thinker.
These threads are a blast,
I have to say I love them also.
If you’re ever wondering just how crazy the Religious Right can be, you need to look no further than the Blaze when a story about the sugar plum fairy is posted.
I mean, WOW! Sometimes it just a little crazy, other times its mega-super-blowout-going-out-of-business-everything-must-go crazy like this Batchitcrazy Bachmann claiming to have the sky fairy’s endorcment for President.
Talk about gnashing of teeth!
May we remain One Nation, Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all
cheers
Report Post »jcoliver75
Posted on June 29, 2011 at 10:42pmAtheist=Idiot
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pmLiberal-Atheist-Critical-Thinker
Report Post »Apparently you are not a real thinker. Michele Bachman has done more with her life and for those around her WITH the HELP and BLESSING from GOD than any Million of you atheist’s Could ever Hope to do or even want to do. You and your Ilk are worthless Pimples on the Ass of a Pig, who have NO CLUE what it is to Believe in something other than your own selfish wants. Steal from the American Taxpayer to pay for your redemption by Redistributing other people’s hard earned Money.
Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:11pmI love you.
Report Post »wash1776
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:05pmI would expect nothing else out of anyone dealing with the liberal media. Most of them seem to be more atheistic than Christian so of course they will make fun of Michelle or any politician that believes in God. They will all wish they were different when the end times come. GOD IS NOT MOCKED!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:29pm“GOD IS NOT MOCKED”
Well, I’m doing it right now. I’m sticking my tounge out while looking up at the ceiling and making a “plfffft” sound.
Consider all gods officially mocked.
Cheers
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 6:51pmMrButcher
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:29pm
@“GOD IS NOT MOCKED”
Well, I’m doing it right now. I’m sticking my tounge out while looking up at the ceiling and making a “plfffft” sound.
Report Post »***
Do you, by your own will, determine that your heart will beat properly, for it’s next beat, that your lungs will work properly to breath your next breath, that the next time you walk on the sidewalk alongside a busy street, no vehicle will malfunction and come skidding at you. (It’s the “Law of gravity”, that is the basis for all movement, even in countering it!) Do you determine that the next airplane in the sky above you, will not fall out of it?
Call it health, a healthy body, karma, the alignment of the planets? You still come to some kind of faith in something to dare to get out of bed each morning? Did you actually stick out your tongue at the ceiling? Wow, And it didn’t cave in on you? Cool, Duuuuude! ! ! Why has no one ever thought of that before???
barrycooper
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:05pmBy their twisted logic–which actually is not twisted, but absent entirely–Martin Luther King, Jr. was crazy. He was, after all, a minister, and pursuing what he saw as God’s work. Gandhi was crazy. Mother Teresa was crazy. Albert Schweitzer was crazy. Reinhold Niebuhr was crazy.
We need to understand that the demented minds on the left are affected by a profound illness brought on by their rejection of God in all forms, of religion in all forms, and by the maddening SAMENESS with which they are forced to live, to keep their place in what amounts, sociologically, to a cult.
Report Post »MahaGillan
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:02pmLet’s see here……Bachmann, God-fearing, ethical, decent, Loves her country, as opposed to most liberals who mock those of faith. What probably grates the left the most is that there WILL be a conservative woman President occupying the White House before a Progressive, anti-American leftist in the vein of Sillary even gets close to it. Sillary, lest we forget, turned a MoralBlindEye to all of SlickWilly’s indiscretions because she figured she needed the bum to advance her assault on the White House………which also discredits her convictions that she is a moral and just person.
Ms. Bachmann is the real deal and has my support if she nabs the nomination!!
Report Post »redbone007
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:01pmObama claims he pray every day so what is wrong with her speaking with God.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:09pmObama has to meet the same Burden of Proof as Bachmann does. All religious claims are equally baseless until proven.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:17pmObama claims to be a Christian. Now it is between him and God. But the when he supports taxpayer funded abortion, which is murder, he proves otherwise.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:18pm@ Atheist
Did Jesus Christ walk the earth according to you?
If so, did he do the acts attributable to him in the Bible in your mind based on historical evidence?
Report Post »Steve
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:02pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Atheism, Agnostic and the rest are also considered faith based religions. And like you said.
“All religious claims are equally baseless until proven”.
You can not prove yours!
Only by faith can you prove that atheism is true. Just as we Christians claim Christianity is true. So whats you point other then trying to pry your unbelief’s down believers throats?
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:48pmObama preys everyday
Report Post »Phil Perkins
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:45amLiberal-atheist-critical-thinker. (your evaluation)
So let’s think critically. You stated this:
“All religious claims are equally baseless until proven.”
Thinking critically, you have three problems. 1) Any statement that is baseless cannot be proven. Proof comes from examination of the base of evidence and logic, not the other way around. Basis precedes proof. Proof never precedes basis.
And 2) what is the proof of your statement (All religious claims are equally baseless until proven.)? Obeying your rules it is baseless until you provide proof.
Finally 3) your assertion includes only religious statements. Why are the rules of evidence and logic different for religious statements? (Notice this negates “This is not a religious statement,” as a defense for the second problem.) This is the problem with A. J. Ayers (the most published person in Western history to make the argument you stole and failed to attribute) and his British Linguistic Analysis. He held sway in the university for only a very short time because of the logical problem I pointed out in number 2. Even he had to admit it crushes his system. And that is why he is forgotten in history.
His argument (which is also yours) has been a joke to critical thinkers for a very long time.
Waiting for the proof,
Report Post »Phil Perkins.
Phil Perkins
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:53amLACT, you said this:
“Obama has to meet the same Burden of Proof as Bachmann does.”
So, have you been trolling the net to bash him? You don’t have to answer. I think I know the answer.
Report Post »Twilight Struggler
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:59pmIt’s called a conscience and sometimes called intuition. Even Jesus said that his superpowers didn’t come from him. It’s from God. I believe that. I am nothing without God. Man’s first superpower is Speech.
Report Post »windycitywoman
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:59pmCrazy like a Fox! If God is for her then who shall stand against her?? Anyone who pursues God’s will, will be a force to be reckoned with. Thousands( if not millions) of people are praying for this women yet people will question her ability to discern her Father’s voice. Until you have actually seen God work in your own life you will not know His voice and actions, you will not know the feeling of the Holy Spirit and that is a shame because it is a high that no drug could ever accomplish.
Report Post »Kerby Clark
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:24pmThat is right – I am one that does not want to burn for not supporting her, and I pity those who disregard and blaspheme her presidential runs.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 6:35pmre : Crazy like a Fox! If God is for her then who shall stand against her?? Anyone who pursues God’s will, will be a force to be reckoned with. Thousands( if not millions) of people are praying for this women yet people will question her ability to discern her Father’s voice
Report Post »********
You‘d think they’d have learned that trying to do the same thing with Bachmann as they did with Palin. What is this, “It totally flopped with Palin, so let’s light into Bachmann in the same way”? As Rush says, “The definition of insanity..!”
I.Gaspar
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:58pmMichele Bachmann believes in God and is therefore unfit to be President???
Report Post »This comes from the people who support obama, biden, reid, peolsi and frank…all Godless marxists regardless of what they may claim.
I’ll choose Bachmann, thank you.
CatB
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:06pmWell said …
TEA!
Report Post »Sound The Trumpet In Zion
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:57pmGod speaks to us all the time. Most people don‘t know it because they either don’t want to listen or they are afraid of what they might hear. I am glad to see her proclaim her beliefs so openly and I haven’t heard a thing from her that would go against God or this nation, bibilcally or basically. Jesus stated that we would suffer greatly by following Him, and here we see that happening with Michelle Bachmann. Keep it up Michelle, you know that you are doing right just by the jealous mockery and the ridicule that they are trying to pile on you. Keep it up and you will win in the end when we all stand before God on Judgement Day and all of these people that mock us and try to ridicule us are crying to us to speak to God and try to convince Him that they deserve to spend eternity in the New Jerusalem with us. Mockers – when that time comes – do not bother because God will judge in His Perfect Justice and He will use His own definition of justice not yours, so you will be out of luck. We will keep praying for all of you though, praying that all of you will “see the light” and repent and follow God as we do, do it for your eternal salvation.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:02pm“God speaks to us all the time. ”
Evidence please…
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:15pmThe evidence is that you are seeking Him now. If you really want to know Him, read His word, ask other Christians, ask God. He will answer you.
Report Post »DeltaHawk
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:57pmLiberal disbelief has no bearing on God,however it has everything to do with their fate. Here and later!
Report Post »Peopple who don’t believe in God will believe everything else!
csbaby
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:56pmThis nation was founded on Judao-Christian values and the whole deterioation cause is from people who are really anti-God. It’s so sad that Michelle is going to be attacked because she believes in God, relies on God and loves God. That’s the jist of the difference. Democrats don’t even recognize that their party is being consumed by atheists, communists, socialists, marxists – all of them trying to take all of our God given rights from us. Think about it -it’s the abortion issue, the separation of church and state issue, the gun laws, etc – that mostly democrats are so fond of embracing. They should start to embrace God – get to know Him. Because what they are going to end up with is not the utopia they think they are getting. I’m glad Michelle Bachman is close to God. More power to her. She’ll get my vote if she is the candidate.
Report Post »The Eleventh Doctor
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:55pmI have met Bachmann personally. I know she meditates and fasts and prays when she needs to make a big decision, and makes sure she knows exactly what God wants before doing anything.
Praise be to God!
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pmIf she is doing what god wants then she isn’t using her own free will.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:11pmWrong again. To worship God in truth and in spirit is an expression of free will. To recognize that He is in control and for her to be in his will, is power through Christ.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:13pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Report Post »Sure she is using her own free will……it is up to her whether or not she does what she is asked to do. There are blessings for obedience and cursings for disobedience……up to you. Surely, you are familiar with those cursings!!
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:16pmFYI there atheist, but when you pray you don’t pray for an answer. Otherwise, I’d pray for lottery numbers. You pray for God to give you wisdom to do what is right, you pray for strength to carry through with it, you pray for peace to accept ramifications, you pray for patience to be able to forgive people. You don’t pray for outcomes or epiphanies or burning bushes.
When a Christian says that they are doing something that they are “called to do” it usually means that they have prayed about it and after doing so the holy spirit has given them a sense of conviction or purpose to follow through.
I don’t expect you to understand this in any way as it would be too difficult to see past your own arrogance and venom towards Christians. However, I felt “called” to lay it out there for you nonetheless.
God bless.
Report Post »CREUSLY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:20pmShe does have free will..she can either do what God asks of her or not..she doesn’t HAVE to..but she wants to..to be pleasing to God. We all have a choice to follow him or not..it all depends on our faith. And you ask where the proof is..it’s all around you..you are just to blind to see. I will pray for you, and hope that you will see what Michelle and others see.
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:29pmLiberal_Atheist:
…what…? Read your comment again. Think about it. Not real hard, you may just hurt yourself and we wouldn’t want that. We’re all about safety here on Blaze. “SHE is doing”. Did you get that? SHE…IS…doing. To me, that also means she could NOT do it if she so chose. It is free will if someone chooses to follow God’s will. She could choose not to run as well. She is CHOOSING to do as God has asked her to do. Doesn’t matter, though. You will never understand. Your heart has been hardened, and that is sad. Look up the word “faith” in the dictionary. Faith doesn’t need solid proof – I see hints of God every day. I’ll pray for Michelle, and you.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 6:22pm@Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Report Post »Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pm
If she is doing what god wants then she isn’t using her own free will.
****
Oh, that you might meet, and know my Lord! To find His will for me is to find something so much better than I can plan for my life because we can only understand what’s in our current understanding, and we can only see what we know and hope, but God looks down from a higher place that is not limited by the sun rising and falling, and the international date line. He sees, yesterday, today and tomorrow, and when I pray and choose to go where He leads me to go, even if there’s nothing in my experience to lead me to want to do so, I find such joy! It’s still free will, because I can either choose to follow His leading, or not? It‘s just that I’ve found by experience that if I choose to hold back through fear, I lose out on so much!
PapaKOA
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:55pm“Without God there is no virtue because there is no prompting of the conscience…without God there is a coarsening of the society; without God democracy will not and cannot long endure…If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a Nation gone under.” — Ronald Reagan
Report Post »Charlie Justice
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:55pmJesus does not require the faith and belief of others as a prerequisite for His existence, divinity and authority.
Report Post »SimpleTruths
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:17pmAre you so sure about that? Did he tell you that himself?
Report Post »regressive_democrat
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:54pmrelentless bigotry in 3…2…
Report Post »regressive_democrat
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:57pmYou were a few second late!
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:53pmOf course it’s a crazy claim. If it’s a true claim then back it up with evidence. Where‘s the evidence she’s actually been “given” anything at all from a deity?
The Burden of Proof is on her to prove this claim.
Report Post »Charlie Justice
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:57pmBelieve her or do not but she has no burden to prove it to you or anyone else.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:01pmThen many people will think she is a flake for talking to invisible sky-people.
Report Post »PapaKOA
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:01pmGod is a personal experience. Only God can prove God exists,. If we could prove, or disprove, that God exists, well then we‘d be a god wouldn’t we?
Report Post »ISRAELISOURFRIEND
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:02pmProphesies, meet the prophesies, count the prophesies, watch the prophesies unfold before your eyes.
You short narrow minded lunatic!
Report Post »Sola Scriptura
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pmRead this great thing right above your post..From Israelisourfriend..
Atheism has never dreamed a dream.
Atheism has never lifted a burden.
Atheism has never solved a problem.
Atheism has never healed a broken heart.
Atheism has never brought joy to a wounded soul.
The stories I have heard of God healing people is all the proof I need. If you want..read Neal Morse’s book Testimony. Blessings upon you!
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:06pmIt drives you crazy doesn’t it. If you look for Him, you will find the truth and it will change your life.
Report Post »docmd
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:14pmShe doesn’t have to prove GOD.GOD will prove himself and HE does every day. It‘s just that people don’t want to believe. Like it says in the Bible “they eyes but cannot see and ear and cannot not hear!!!
Report Post »ISRAELISOURFRIEND
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:15pmThe burden of proof is on you, the atheist!
Mathew 7:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
We were all atheists at some point in our lives. We came to the side of divine intelligence, something your mind is not ready to accept because you are too busy arguing instead of seeking greater understanding.
Until then, God Bless!
Report Post »BlazingPatriot
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:39pm@Liberal_Atheist;
You say you deny the existence of “our” God (the one true God, creator of the heavens and earth) yet you pour your heart and soul, and your thoughts and words (logos) into a distorted belief of your very own God in the form of atheism. Therefore, in a sense, you really do believe in a form of god.
Too bad your god is just that; a form that has no power .
John1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Greek for “Word” = logos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Report Post »1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a “form of godliness” but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
tbconrad
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:49pmIf it were that easy to prove it wouldn’t be worth having. Like others have said its a personal proof you must search out and find for yourself. Unfortunately not everyone will apply the mental fortitude it takes to search and find for themselves they will take the easy way and follow the lie. The truth is that we will all know one day like it or not.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:56pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
You have a faith that does not believe in God. Some here have a faith that their is a God.
Why do you attack us trying to promote your faith over us.
Why can‘t you simply say that I don’t believe in God and Move on.
Why is it that those who don’t believe always discredit and insult us simply because of our faith.
Why are you so angry? Go walk in your faith and allow us to walk in ours.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:13pmBut what if it’s crazy to be a liberal_atheist_critical thinker?
You contradict yourself. You have not done much critical thinking if you are a liberal or an atheist!
Report Post »GreatAmerica
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:13pmThe true is that when you are alone you know there is no one or no power that is going to protect you. You can have all the faith you want but you know deep down inside that there is no God. The sooner you accept that the sooner you will become a whole person. Realize your limitations and frailties. As a great song writer put it “I found out and now I can cry” or “Feel your own pain”
Report Post »ddodge
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:31pmLiberal Athiest Critical Thinker,
You wrote, “Of course it’s a crazy claim. If it’s a true claim then back it up with evidence. Where‘s the evidence she’s actually been “given” anything at all from a deity?”
About 40 years ago, shortly after professing faith in Christ, and still recovering from drug usage :) I was, with a young gal, digging through some trash cans looking for stuff. (Yes, that’s what some of us did – dumb, but the reality regardless). So, as she passed a closed box that was roughly the size of notebook paper 1/2 inch think, I started to throw the box into the adjacent trash can.
A voice, sounding like it was RIGHT BEHIND my right ear said, “Open up the box.” I said, “Did you hear that?”. She said, “Hear what..?“ ”The voice that said, ‘Open up the box’?“ ”Nope”, she said.
She then suggested I do as I was told and open the box up. I did so and there was a crocheted cross inside, red witha white border. Red being the symbolic color of Christ’s blood and white the symbolic color ot the righteousness we gain as a prefession of faith.
I am looking at that same cross as it sits on my desk right now.
Tell me, from a scientific evolutionary point of view,WITHOUT resorting to an irrational leap of ‘logic’ how that happened, would you?
Or, admit that it isn’t an issue that you CANNOT belive. it’s a morally drgraded position that you WILL NOT believe, despite any evidence you are presented with.
Your problem is mor
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:33pmNO…LIBERAL ATHEIST (geez I’d never want to be called that!!!) …. She doesn’t have to prove zippity do-dah to you. There are about 2 % of the people in USA who call themselves ATHEISTS…others may not practice a religion…but about 2% call themselves Atheists for reasons known only to themselves (and GOD). AND….then…. YOU admit to being a LIBERAL (poor thing)….so you wouldn’t be voting for HER or any one else on the GOP probably…right? No loss. I have work to do. YOU know, the four letter word that puts food on my table, roof over my head and does not come from the Federal Govt. as a handout. You are one of those rare birds who comes on these threads just to fight…right? Do they pay you well? I hope so…not that they are getting their money’s worth… but what reason would anyone want to be you?
Report Post »Tretka
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:33pmHello Liberal,
I have studied knowledge on all I ask of you:
1) Is “sustainability” a real study and explain why? 2) Is the slaughter of chickens and the abortion of a child any different-explain why 3) If God did not create the world-explain who or what did? 3) What is a normalcy bias-explain.
Report Post »VinnieCCT
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:37amLACT
In the end, God will prove his existence. At that time faith will no longer be necessary and it will be to late for people like you who need “proof”.
Report Post »ISRAELISOURFRIEND
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:52pmAtheists mock Christians because they say, “your hope is delusional, it’s pie in the sky”.
They know a lot of facts about weird things, but they don’t the know real thing about anything.
Atheism has never dreamed a dream.
Atheism has never lifted a burden.
Atheism has never solved a problem.
Atheism has never healed a broken heart.
Atheism has never brought joy to a wounded soul.
You’re intellectual argument for everything is “I doubt that”. A moron can learn that in three seconds!
What do you believe? What can you defend?
Atheists spend their lives fighting a God they don’t believe in. How brain dead is that?
Corinthians 1:21 “The world through wisdom did not know God”. Why? What does that mean? That means you can study things but never the the right things, and man may know about rocks but never know the rock of ages.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:56pmSo true, so true. It must be sad to always be against someone for what they believe. Glory to God…
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:58pmWhere is your evidence for a god – ANY god at all?
Meet the Burden of Proof.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pmI talked to him today. Where is your evidence that he does not exist? Even science proves that this is not just an accident.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:08pmProve you talked to Him.
I do not have to prove your assertion – you do. It’s called the Burden of Proof.
Report Post »shamballa108
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:09pmPsalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any that act wisely, that seek after God. They have all gone astray, they are all alike corrupt; there is none that does good, no, not one.
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:20pmI owe you no proof. Seek Him and you will see the proof for yourself.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:27pmLiberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Report Post »What is proof for a believer would not be proof to you. Our proof is sufficient for us to believe. IF GOD finds you, your proof will be different from ours..it will be something personally correlated to you. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Maybe you should look up instead of down.
Showtime
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:33pmThank you!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:18pmIT takes a lot more “faith” to believe that we just got here from some BIG BANG (never have heard who or what caused the BANG) and that we became INDIVIDUALS (no fingerprints are alike) the SEASONS came about…the variety of animals all came about ….instead of things keeping on exploding…that’s one; secondly…. ‘animals” don’t need love to procreate, dude Atheist, they don’t need a conscious, they don’t need anything but instinct. PUT A SOCK in it silly person. When YOU answer my question then I’ll answer yours.
Report Post »Since we‘re floating around on a ball in space and don’t fall off; since I have no idea where I came from but have felt, talked to and experienced GOD….I’ll opt for GOD. What HE teaches me, what I am learning from loving GOD is the best there is. SORRY for you, DUFFUS DUDE.
middleclassprophet
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:26pmAtheism has never dreamed a dream. – Woody Allen says, “hello”
Report Post »Atheism has never lifted a burden. – Andy Rooney says, “hello”
Atheism has never solved a problem. – John Lennon says, “hello”
Atheism has never healed a broken heart. – Billy Joel says, “hello”
Atheism has never brought joy to a wounded soul. – Barry Manilow, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Lee, Bob Geldolf, Dan Barker, Ted Williams, James Cameron, John Carpenter, and many more disagree 100% with your “judgement” of others. Don’t just preach Christianity, try practicing it, too.
atombomb
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:46pmWho said reality owes it to us to be comforting? I can believe I have a billion dollars in an offshore bank account, but as comforting as the thought is, it doesn’t make it any more true.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 5:52pm“The Heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth His handiwork, ….”
Report Post »Stand on a Mountaintop, and look around you, as far as you can see, That should be all the evidence you need. They‘re still discovering things that’ve been there from the beginning. The 300 +species just discovered in S. America, the tribe in Brazil‘s rain forest they’ve just discovered no-one has ever had interaction with….The scientific discoveries which find in nature a cure for diseases.. The very “laws” of nature requiring a lawmaker… Need I go on?
Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 6:03pm@middleclassprophet
Report Post »Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:26pm
Atheism has never dreamed a dream. – Woody Allen says, “hello”
Atheism has never lifted a burden. – Andy Rooney says, “hello”
Atheism has never solved a problem. – John Lennon says, “hello”
Atheism has never healed a broken heart. – Billy Joel says, “hello”
Atheism has never brought joy to a wounded soul. – Barry Manilow, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Lee, Bob Geldolf, Dan Barker, Ted Williams, James Cameron, John Carpenter, and many more disagree 100% with your “judgement” of others. Don’t just preach Christianity, try practicing it, too.
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And in 200 yrs, what will their memory be saying, especially if a Global Tyrant does get power in this world.
Try, the hello that our Christian, and non-christian but still agreeing in Divine Providence forefathers have been saying for the past 230 yrs, especially as American missionaries, and military went around the world, to do all the above, And the $’s from our way of life ( God inspired in Freedom) reached out to accomplish all the above.
geonj
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:52pmthese idiots who poke fun at a person’s religious beliefs have no understanding of what having faith and a dependence on prayer means in the life of a true christian. but i bet they will be praying when they are at death’s door.
Report Post »Republichic
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:02pmAnd there you have it!!! There all critical and name callers until the “knock” comes at their door, then they are all over God. For all of us who believe in the Holy Father, Michelle is right on. For all the naysayers, I hope that God will have mercy on them even after they are speaking against him. Glenn has taught me to take my anger to God and forgive these commi nut jobs for what they are doing to our America. The who bunch of them, the elite media, Obama and all of his comrades in Congress, his commi, Marxist buddies outside the WH and all those individuals who are working daily to destroy America will fail, as long as all of us keep telling the truth, stop the pc and speak whenever we can to anyone.
Report Post »Liberal_Atheist_Critical_Thinker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:10pmZeus will have mercy on all of his children.
Report Post »Praise!
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:32pmPlus if Michele is President you will hear those door knocks night after night as this terminal sick country begins to heel behind her. Lord Lord.
Report Post »Commonsense Libertarian
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:40pm@LACT
Zeus is not the God of Abraham, just as Allah is not the God of Abraham, you only insult your own intelligence by claiming otherwise. I recommend you read the Bible to gain clarity. I am not a muslim, but I have read through the Quran and the Hadith to gain clarity. You seem to have more questions as an Athiest than those with faith.
I will pray that your questions are answered and I have faith that God will answer if you choose to search. I will also pray that your scales will be removed from your eyes so you can see clearly the path laid in front of you. Whether you know it or not, Sir, you are being used by God for His will.
If you think about it Critically, as your name suggests, the intricate balance of nature and the beautiful complexity in which it functions shows creation to be obvious. The burden of proof belongs to the non-believer.
By your thinking, another tornado could hit Joplin and instead of destroying everything it would put everything back in order. All buldings would be completely restructured into their original form, all items would be put back in the houses they came from, and everything would be completely restored to the point before the first tornado hit. Not only that, but the restored buildings would have evolved upon their reconstruction and will now be immune to future tornados.
Please show me the proof that there is no God.
Report Post »XdemXrepub
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:12pmAtheists who say they use logic, really think they are smarter than those that believe in God even though some of us are doctors and other well educated citizens. This is their justification for their progressive agenda-they know better (whether they’re LIB or RINO). Logic fails when the Theory that All matter and energy exploded to create the Universe (which they can’t prove but they have “faith” it did) happened All by itself. But how did that matter and energy get there to begin with? They’re Faith …It just was. Wait…how is that logic? What about all those scientific Laws?
Report Post »thesource
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:51pmWhen she doesn’t win then why can she say about it?
Report Post »hightide
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:01pmWin or loose, she is still doing what she believes that God wants her to do. So it is still the right thing to do.
Report Post »windycitywoman
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pmJust because God calls her to run does not mean He intends for her to win. I am sure she has the faith to step forward and be a servant of God. It is not our responsibility for the outcome of what God calls us to do, it is our responsibility to be willing to be used by Him and know it is all for His purpose. The outcome is in His hands and we are great with that, we don’t pretend to know better or more then the Divine.
Report Post »Kerby Clark
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:21pmOh, you can tell she will win alright. And it is blasphemery to say other wise.
Report Post »Praise!
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:29pmShe will sweep across the country like a cleansing purie fire burning the drapes of wrath off the windowsills of the temples of disbeliefers.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:32pmThis is something to think about:
I cannot give my name because of the Traditions of Alcoholics Anonymous, but I can tell you that I am an alcoholic — a recovering alcoholic — with 31 years sobriety.
Back in my drinking days, I wished I could be “normal” like everyone else, and every effort to drink “normally” failed. Finally, I realized that I had a problem and needed help. I began attending the AA meetings and found sobriety, learned to deal with life on life’s terms, learned a new peace and a new happiness, and sought through meditation to improve my contact with God as I understood Him.
One night while at a meeting, I looked around at those in the room and realized that the people who were in the program (because we have a physical, spiritual, and mental disease called alcoholism) actually made more sense, were infinitely more honest and open, and were more “normal” than those we used to want to be like!
We in AA have made the decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understand Him, asking that He do for us what we could not do for ourselves. It is perfectly understandable that a Christian lady should ask for God’s help with her life.
If Michele Bachmann has asked for the Lord’s guidance, who is anyone to question her? The media needs to start reporting facts and stop slanting the news. They could start with Obama, Bounel, Soetoro, Dunham, or whoever he is.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:33pmDr. Charles Stanley uses a simple phrase to sum it all up,
Report Post »“Obey God and leave all the consequences to Him”
Win or lose the election, you can’t go wrong by obeying God!
Bachmann didn’t say God told her she was going to be president.
Besides, God has a neat way of turning man’s failures into His victories, if thats the way it turns out!
Praise!
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:07pmSir Showtime, let’s please not stray towards the AA direction you propose, I can tell that Michele IS a normal person, not addicted, and you going off and discussing her alcolism would not be super-prodcutive (or Christian) get it?
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:12pmShowstine! Hi!
Hey, darling, this is NOT all about YOU, this is Michelle’s day! Let her celebrate her individual goodness without butting in with your personal dramas!!!
(Everybody has a redemption story – Yo!)
Report Post »Oh!!! Congratulations for staying off the juice! Impressive – a dry generation! U still smokin? non-filters?
Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:28pm@Showtime
Thanks for your testimony!
Report Post »WASALIBNOWIGOTIT
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:37pmShowtime,
Report Post »Though not an addict myself I know exactly what you are saying. I admire your bravery and commend your attempt to help others understand. God bless.
VRW Conspirator
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:49pmWin or not…it is neither proof nor denial that God wanted her to run…maybe God has some plan that her running needs to be a part of…maybe God is testing loyalties…who knows the mind of God but God…
i might not go around telling people that God talks to me…but I talk to Him all the time and whenever I hear that voice in the back of my head contradicting what I think…I know it is God…that still small voice..conscience..whatever you want to call it…
the Bible even talks about this in Elijah….the voice of God is not in the thunderstorm, not in the tornado winds, not in the earthquake, not in the violence and devastation of nature…the voice of God was on the soft wind rustling the leaves as Elijah hid in the cave and trembled before the devastation of nature…
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 5:21pmI didn’t read that she said God told her she would win. I’ve found many times that God (through that ‘still small voice’ in my heart) suggested I take a different route than I’d planned, to perform an errand, then somewhere along the way, He reminded me that I needed to stop and do something. Sometimes it was because I truly needed whatever I was reminded to stop for, but very often, it was because, while in that store or business, someone would ask me with help doing or finding something, or just need encouragement as he/she battled their problems. Perhaps Ms Bachmann has a similar mission in running for President.
Report Post »Oh My God
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:51pmand, God will bless her!
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:50pmshort answer would be No
Report Post »1stAmendment
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:48pmIt’s the one and only, the king if all kings, the creator of all worlds.
Report Post »And the who gives you the gift of life! One nation under god!
DimmuBorgir
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:51pmI wonder how often CBS asks their liberal guests about their praying habbits??
seems like an odd question to ask on face the nation
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:53pmWhy ask if she is “crazy” seems that we can add this to “flake”…I take it that the build-a-burgers are feeling the heat because they can’t control the “tea party express” :)
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:54pmI think you‘re crazy if you don’t believe in GOD. I feel sorry for all the people who can’t see the truth or have the faith. Our time on Earth is a blink out of trillons x trillions of years.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:54pmI would much rather have a candidate (PRESIDENT) who feels called by God .. than someone who is a Godless Marxist. I will be support Bachmann .. both physically (by working for her campaign) and with my $$.
TEA!
Report Post »Revere1
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:56pmMost journalists aren’t religious. They won‘t take kindly to Bachmann’s faith. http://www.elephantwatcher.com/2011/06/michele-bachmann-denies-shes-flake.html
Report Post »windycitywoman
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:00pmAmen brother ~
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:06pmANY TRUE THINKER WOULD…
Any true thinker would make a decision and then ask a third party confirm their assumption or look at it from another angle. This way you don’t have to second think yourself.
That is what prayer is about, not just chatting with God but usually you make a decision and then ask God, the best third party to go to for any question. He will help you know if it is best.
Michelle, I continue to ask you to accept Wallace’s apology: http://tiny.cc/n4g3h and Stick to your guns that Obama does have “anti-american views”: http://tiny.cc/3×90t because it is true.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pmThat question is worded poorly and I am ashamed that the Blaze would put something like that in print.
It would be like me asking –
Is the lack of a God given sense of assurance with Barak Obama a satanic sign?
I am sick of being jerked around by the media – on both the left AND the right.
Report Post »Kerby Clark
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:14pmI think it’s just that she is a fearless person who does not let mortal humans destroy her holy mission.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:17pmDems/libs (mostly nonbelievers) think by using this strategy of calling her crazy for this – it will help them bc they don’t understand Believers/Consvs. & somehow think most Americans will think the same – wrong. You “hear” God many ways – through our “thoughts” we have via the Holy Spriit. Some come from satan, some from Him basicly. Main way to know the difference is to know the Scriptures & know that God won’t say anything opposing them. But with things like this, usually we have the “gift of discernment” that we are given to help us “know”. I certainly believe she means what she says & support her – but sometimes we’re sincerely wrong. Our own desires get in the way. It may be that God does want her to run (hope so) – but just to run – not win – for various reasons/plans we know not of. Time will tell. BTW Rick Perry (TX) will be running & he’s about the same. Calling a big prayer & fasting for the nation in August, when he’ll announce. So we’ll have another (& Palin if she runs) Love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:17pmShe didn’t say God told her to run…So why did CBS protray in that manner?
Report Post »And Bob given permits that can‘t used because of the EPA and other regulatory commissions isn’t a premits it’s waving a banana to a mnkey in a cage who can rech it.
Kerby Clark
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:18pmLots of persons in my Sunday school say the same thing, we have all heard the voice of God. I heard His voice in a wheat field at 11:34 in the morning on a Thursday. If you have not heard Him speak you are probably just in a cult.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:20pmShe can believe what she wants to believe, as can anyone else. They (the media) are just trying to make her a target for the left (atheists, non-believers, haters.)
Report Post »Pretty much the same thing they did to Palin.
Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:23pmIf a person speaks publicly about what they believe God is leading them to do, they and God will be mocked. It’s the world mocking the Kingdom. Nothing new here!
Report Post »I’m thinking that the verse about, ‘casting your pearls before swine’, may apply here.
It is a good thing to discuss the things of God with other believers. But trying to discuss the things of God, other than the Gospel, with the mockers, is rarely productive.
Not that Bachmann, or anyone else, should be silent about their faith. But even some Christians won’t relate to what God is speaking to your heart. It’s a personal relationship and as such, a message for you might not be the same for me. God is not leading me to run for president, for instance. Besides, I have been wrong before in my own personal growth!
I do aplaud Bachmann for being open about her faith. It takes a brave person to do that these days. Especially a polititian!
The mockers are just doing what they do……….mock!
Praise!
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:27pmWe must support the chosen ones – Bachmann and Perry, and Santorum. They will change the face of the race!
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:32pmIt is quiet obvious that the left has never been “called by God” to do anything. Maybe this is exactly why they are the way they are. It is also obvious that the media can relate to our “Godless” leader much better than they can to a believer. If she had said that “Allah” told her to do it they would have believed her.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:32pmI trust God… God is always just, It’s people that I have a problem with. None of us are perfect but if they are being guided by God, then it must be right.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:39pm@sissykatz
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:32pm
It is quite obvious that the left has never been “called by God” to do anything. Maybe this is exactly why they are the way they are. It is also obvious that the media can relate to our “Godless” leader much better than they can to a believer. If she had said that “Allah” told her to do it they would have believed her.
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EXCELLENT!
Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:45pmShe’s not crazy, but she is delusional. The idea that Bachmann has a personal line to God (and that He talks back) is a symptom of her ego, not her piety. Many people have thought they are God’s own personal messenger, but there was just one, and His name is Jesus. Michele Bachmann would do well to remember that and work on earthly issues rather than trumpeting her spiritual connections.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:47pmEric_The_Red_State
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:07pm
I am sick of being jerked around by the media – on both the left AND the right.
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You can start by deleting this site’s bookmark. Do it, do it now.
Eliasim
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:54pmThat must be driving the liberals and the beasts at “The Daily Beast” nuts.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:55pmMy favorite was how that “glitter attack” just kind of seemed to bounce off her.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:58pmWell, let’s see. GOD? You mean THE GOD? THE one who created the entire UNIVERSE, everything in it including us? That GOD? YOU mean the one who LOVED us so much that HE gave us FREEDOM of CHOICE …who wants a forced friend (BTW…this is where ISLAM goes completely off the rails) GOD wants us to LOVE Him because we LOVE HIM…not because we’re forced to.
SO…Does this GOD “talk to us” (us meaning His Children) ? Does He? IF so, HOW does He talk to us? Each person who has been blessed enough to develop a personal relationship with GOD will hear from GOD in very ways: A quiet voice; the Bible; other people; Situations…all ways in which GOD gets His Message to His Children. HE does speak to those of us lucky enough to know Him. We encourage everyone to get to know Him. The missing ingredient in today’s world is the absence of GOD. This presence is totally what we need…. We know we can not make it through life without GOD.
Report Post »I can’t fault some kids and other people for not wanting to know GOD or JESUS from what the “other side” commonly referred to as EVIL/SATAN….has been telling them. EVIL is rampant. Satan has one goal…destroy the earth. His ways are subtle and his ‘fruit’ is bitter and destroys all things good.
DO I believe that Michelle Bachmann hears from GOD…YOU BET. SO do many of the GOP Candidates running for this most important Office of President and those yet to declare. Those who know GOD know this.
Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:03pm@LOCKED
You know Jesus’ name, that’s good! Do you also know the names of Saul, (called Paul), John, Matthew, Peter, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel,……do I need to go on?
Bachmann did not say she is speaking for God. She believes God spoke to her.
Report Post »If you don’t understand that, then you don’t understand Christianity at all!
I won’t bother relating my experiences, but if nothing else God speaks to everyone through His word. If you were listening, you would have heard Him speaking to you too!
What do you think prayer is? Why do you think the veil was rent in to in the temple when Jesus died on the cross? So we can have personal access to The Father, making Jesus our mediator.
Try to get your facts straight please!
chiefparker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:03pmI didn’t know there was “A barely true” category…
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:06pmGOOD GRIEF!!! LOCKED !!!! What on earth are you basing your ‘opinion’ upon? GOD speaks to His children all the time! I don’t have hours to recite sections from the BIBLE but the PERSONAL relationship JESUS encourages us to develop with GOD, Himself and the HOLY SPIRIT.
Report Post »For you NOT to know that tells me you are NOT a CHRISTIAN…you might as well have said “GOD did not send His Son to save us”…. WE know HE DID. He’s talked to believers from ABRAHAM forward !!!
WOW. I’m so sorry for you!!! …… sooooo sorry!!!!
chiefparker
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:12pmHere’s the thing BoB; 200 and some drilling permits issued. Of the 1000′s of hunting permits issued in Ky each year, only a fraction have a loin on the table.
Report Post »That’s mid-western low brow speak, in case you don’t understand it, ask an American…
MONICNE
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:18pmGod will control the primary and God will control the General Election.
We can all relax and just stay home.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:18pm@Rational
“You know Jesus’ name, that’s good! Do you also know the names of Saul, (called Paul), John, Matthew, Peter, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel,……do I need to go on?”
So I understand this clearly, you are saying that Michele Bachmann is a prophet of God?
“Bachmann did not say she is speaking for God. She believes God spoke to her.”
Here’s a riddle. If someone says that their actions are what God told them to do, and you take them at their word, then would this not be the exact same thing? Bachmann has gone on record (not just in this case) saying that she receives guidance from God, and through prayer, He tells her what to do. If we find this as true, whatever she says, she says comes from God.
That’s the definition of speaking for God. What if someone else says God told them differently? Who do we believe then?
Jesus. That’s who we believe. I believe that reflection on the Bible is the best way to decide matters of faith, but claiming God directly guides your actions is ego. I believe Michele Bachmann’s spiritual pipeline as much as that of Harold Camping.
Report Post »WASALIBNOWIGOTIT
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:20pmGod has never spoken to me with actual words but whenever I‘ve reached out to him I’ve been comforted. I believe once he sent the spirit of my daughter to me in a dream so I could feel her love and forgiveness. I also feel oddly “protected”. God speaks to all of us but, I believe, not all of us know how to listen. Close your eyes and ears and open your heart and soul and you will feel the Lord.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:21pm@chiefparker
Now I know what happens to my posts when they just disappear. They wind up being posted on another thread that is a different topic…………………………..
At least that appears to have happened to you!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:22pmThis just in: Santorum, Pawlenty, Cain, Romney actually everyone except Ron Paul has just announced God spoke to them (in dreams) and each one said He told them they are going to Win the General election.
This just just in: Sarah Palin and Rick Perry have been told by God (via livestock voices) that they will defeat Michelle and ALL Comers if they get into the race by August…
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:23pm@Patty
“I don’t have hours to recite sections from the BIBLE”
This tells me that you, much as Rational Man, implies that Bachmann is a prophet. I don’t believe this, because her actions smack of ego, not piety. Furthermore, if she is a prophet, I feel she is in the wrong profession as a politician.
Obviously she is not a prophet. If she were reflecting on the Bible and praying for help to make the right decisions, I‘d say that’s fine. But Bachmann has said time and again that God Himself is directing her; she is working His will through her politics. I see the Word usurped by a charlatan, and that makes me ill.
Someday I hope you are able to tell the difference between false prophets and legitimate faith. God bless.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:24pmStand Strong in your FAITH and WE WILL WIN 2012!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:26pmGod didn’t endorse her presidency.
What the hell, is she having seances with demons and Sarah Palin…?
She should stop blaspheming.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:41pmSome of you are good at making false accusations and asumptions. No one is suggesting Bachmann is a ‘prophet’ or anything other than an evangelical Christian. Sorry you don’t understand that. Sorry for you!…..You have the spiritual disernment of a Horny Toad……………….
Report Post »Maybe if you practiced what you preach, you wouldn’t be a contentious person about the things of God that you seem to know little about.
Again, I’m sorry for you……………..Have a nice day!
Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:42pm@Wasalib
“God has never spoken to me with actual words but whenever I‘ve reached out to him I’ve been comforted.”
Report Post »This is exactly my feeling. I am glad that you also could find comfort in the Lord. God Bless!
JRook
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:46pmOk its not a misunderstanding about the beliefs. It is the arrogance regarding the claims it is a superior faith, people who have strong faith are somehow superior. As far as her being visited or talked to by god, that would place her in the flaky category in my view. Individuals like her that imply God validates statements that are clearly their own beliefs or interpretations of some divine positions is a level of arrogance that is dangerous. M. Bachmann speaks no more on behalf of God or his will than Jim Baker or Jimmy Swaggart or countless others who mask their own version of social control as exercising their religious beliefs. The current born again view is that M. Bachmann like others has a personal relationship with Jesus. That’s great and she should keep it that way…personal.
Report Post »Truth Wins Every Time
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:49pmSeems the liberal media has NO problem when their leader, obammy talks about his “christian” faith.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:59pmV-MAN MACE
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:26pm
God didn’t endorse her presidency.
What the hell, is she having seances with demons and Sarah Palin…?
She should stop blaspheming.
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That is exactly what the Jewish priests said of Jesus and the prophets. Why do we pray? God says “keep knocking and asking and he will answer”. If God did not speak to any human there would be no Bible and no God because the Bible is God breathed as stated in Timothy. God directs and prompts those who draw close to him. Also, those who do not know God will not understand his ways… that is key.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:02pmLOCKE and anyone else: GOD wants BELIEVERS in ALL forms of life, in all professions and all areas that deal with anything HE has created (which is everything).
Report Post »Bachmann can state that she ‘conferred’ with GOD (we say PRAYED about this decision) and that is IN NO WAY trying to be a PROPHET. BESIDES…she could easily be a PROPHET if GOD wanted her to be a PROPHET…what’s your beef? Can’t people say “I’ve asked GOD for guidance”- this is a big deal ???… every letter of every word that she utters will be sliced and diced by people like you which is enough to make me never want anyone I love or am related to run for PRESIDENT at this time..until and unless we clean our WHITE HOUSE of the Corrupt Progressives who make a living trying to tear down every person willing to serve. Progressives, BTW, don’t care a flip about serving…they just want to control because in their miserable lives, they think THEY can control the people of the USA. Right. Not going to keep happening. They slipped one Muslim in on us..that’s all they get. (You can insert : COMMIE, MARXIST, SOCIALIST as well as Muslim)
PEOPLE… Be glad that people care enough to run; YOU can’t slam her to CHRISTIANS or others who believe in GOD…so what’s your purpose here? SPEAKING OF GOD does NOT mean you’re trying to be a PROPHET !!! Where did you hear that???? I’ve had all the fun I have time for today.
PALIN/WEST are my candidates and …watch out…they both believe in
krenshau
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:08pmHe’s the only one the liberals fear. They don’t fear allah, buddha, or any other “god”, but they fear the Christian God so much they want to ban all indication of him. With their behavior they should fear him. Every knee will bend to him one day. I look forward to it.
And, yes, I do have God talk to me, too. It’s very nice.
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:13pmThey laughed and mocked the prophets…. so I don’t expect them to stop now…. But listen to me and listen good you sorry sack of Siberian Snake Snot Liberals.. I’ll tell you the same thing that Gamiliel told the Jewish Sanhedrin when they tried to stop Christianity… If this thing is not of God it will go away… but if it is of God, there is nothing YOU can do to stop it!!
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:18pm@Patty
You could have just said “She is a prophet, and every word out of her mouth comes from God,” and saved us the rant with random capitalization.
“every letter of every word that she utters will be sliced and diced by people like you”
If all those words come from God directly, there’s no issue, right?
Did you happen to follow Harold Camping when he predicted Rapture? How about this Mohammed guy when he said he was a prophet? Maybe Joseph Smith when he founded Mormonism? God talked to him too.
Bachmann is no different (although perhaps more attractive) than these hustlers. Jesus is the answer, not Bachmann. I hope you find proper guidance to not be deceived.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:27pm@locked
Did you happen to follow Harold Camping when he predicted Rapture? How about this Mohammed guy when he said he was a prophet? Maybe Joseph Smith when he founded Mormonism? God talked to him too.
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You are confusing “False prophets, prophets and prompts from God“ There is a HUGE difference and what you ”note” is a good observation. However, prophecy is when someone claims to know something about the future… I am very Leary of these sorts of people and they twist the word of God. Prophets were told from God about events that would happen if they did not change their ways or events that God wanted to reveal.
However, Bachman prayed to God for direction and was prompted by God to move forward as such. That is not prophecy, that is a relationship with God called “Sanctification” and listening to how God directs us and guides us. it is a growing process in Christ… it is called “being a follower of Christ”. Growing in him you learn from him.
Do me a favor and look up James 1:5… it is explained there very clear.
James 1:5
New Living Translation (NLT)
5 If you need wisdom, ask our generous God, and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:37pm@Cessna,
You are right, the terms are important. I don’t mean one who predicts the future (though Camping did in his case… but so did Bachmann, saying she has an assurance that she should run for president, presumably because she’ll win). I mean prophet as in the dictionary definition:
“1. a person who speaks for god or a deity, or by divine inspiration.”
Foretelling the future is certainly part of it, but more than that is believing one is acting on God’s will, through direct conversation. I would say I’m influenced by God, and prayer helps me become centered and clear-headed. But I would never say “God told me to do this.” Why? Because the Lord works in mysterious ways, but those ways usually aren’t direct conversation. I can claim inspiration or motivation, or a “feeling” that it’s right. Bachmann would say “God told me to do this.” I am very skeptical of such an idea. Her ego is large, and pride is the worst sin.
Report Post »BeckFan1941
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:49pmThank goodness a canididate who lives by her faith and not afraid to share it in stead of dancing around where or not she is a believer to accomidate the left. Go Michelle and we will pray for you to stay strong in your run and your faith.
Report Post »TheEmperorHasNoClothes
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:54pmAmen!
Report Post »docvet
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:11pmSarah is off the skyline now, time to find another woman to beat up. This may work to her advantage. The libs will spend a lot of time accusing her of being a Christian (to them that’s a bad thing) and go crazy when her reply is “Yup, your right. Now what?”.
Report Post »mils
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:27pmshe’s no more crazy than what Obama believes.
..Infact Obama said….“ there is nothing more beautiful than the Muslim call to prayer in the evening”
She is entitled to her sensibilities with her God.
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Faulkner and Brown
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:41pmWhat the right and left media do not seem to grasp is that Michelle is not bothered by either. She is going to be who she is, right or wrong. They are not used to someone flying in the face of political correctness proudly and with grace. I am not sure if I would vote for her, but it’s early. I know one thing, unless there is some skeleton in her closet, these other attacks will only make her and her supporters stronger. She is a handful.
Report Post »NC1
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:16pmThe liberal media can’t shut up long enough to hear God speaking to them. I long for the day when God has his way with them.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 5:34pmThat host is a moron. Who ever he is.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 6:56pmFAITH IS A GOOD THING gO get em MICHELE ! !
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 8:59pmKeep you faith. Don’t let the Pharisees intimidate you. they will evenually burn.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:47pmWith all due respect to religion, I don’t want a political leader, especially the President, taking their cues from ideas they think they are getting from God. I do want someone who is guided by the morality of their religion, and who makes assessments, rational assements, based on what is best for our country. But I don’t want a President who thinks God is telling them what to do. That’s we are all so afraid of Iran – we’re afraid a religious guy will decide his God has told him to destroy Israel.
Nope. We want world leaders who can logically access the results of their actions on the world, not someone who thinks God is speaking them.
Report Post »seculartea
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:53amYes she’s crazy as are just about everyone of the other GOP candidates. Obviously they can’t all be assured by god that they will win lol. News flash: You don’t have to be a bible thumper to balance the budget! But you couldn’t tell that with our choice of GOP candidates.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 7:31am“As far as her being visited or talked to by god, that would place her in the flaky category in my view. Individuals like her that imply God validates statements that are clearly their own beliefs or interpretations of some divine positions is a level of arrogance that is dangerous.”
My sentiments exactly. She is acting like Sarah Palin. People like this will impose their religious tyranny on us, from a Christian aspect rather than a Muslim aspect.
cessna152
Michelle Obachmann who voted for the Unconstitutional Patriot Act extension is NOT Jesus. If she asserts that God endorses her presidency, then she is a false prophetess. At best, she is pandering to the Religious Right. At worst, she is a false prophetess.
Real Christians don’t pray in public for others to see, or even have to mention that they prayed in private, for the sake of others to know it.
That’s between her and God. I don’t need to hear it.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 7:56amTHANK GOD for directing the steps of a RIGHTEOUS WOMAN. God Bless and Favor HIS CHILDREN
Report Post »selected before the Foundations of the World.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 8:13amI haven’t heard Ron Paul pandering to the Religious Right, or pandering to bigots like Herman Cain and his comments about muslims…
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 9:12amAs a Christian, I can tell you – the left and the media is intentionally misrepresenting what Michele has said about God speaking to her.
She clearly qualifies, “God speaks INTO [her] HEART”
She does NOT say she hears voices in her ears or in her head.
She prays for guidance, and feels COMPELLED one way or another after praying.
Why would anyone pray for guidance if they did not belive God answers prayers?
Reminds me of a story I heard many years ago about the Church congregation that was struggling through a drought. They decided to have a prayer meeting to pray for rain…
Report Post »ONLY ONE LADY SHOWED UP WITH AN UMBRELLA.
So, was SHE the crazy one?
ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 11:53amHere. Let me answer this: YES! She is crazy.
Report Post »enemy of the statist
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 12:39pmFrom George Washington’s prayer journal: “my prayers may come before thee as incense; and as thou wouldst hear me calling upon thee in my prayers, so give me grace to hear thee calling on me in thy word, that it may be wisdom, righteousness, reconciliation and peace to the saving of the soul in the day of the Lord Jesus. Grant that I may hear it with reverence, receive it with meekness, mingle it with faith, and that it may accomplish in me, Gracious God, the good work for which thou has sent it.”
I guess Bachman is just as crazy as the Father of our County.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 4:37pmIsn’t that exactly what the Constitutional Convention did when they were having trouble settling upon a Constitution for these United States of America? Why would following there example be something which makes a woman in 2011 unfit for office in that nation? Sounds like the media is scared to death that we’ll actually get into power, leaders who will ask “Divine Providence” for guidance in these troubled times. Imagine if instead of just opening each session of Congress with a bland prayer, each member would, as the old Breakfast Club on radio advised, “Each in his own words, each in his own way, for a FREE world UNITED in PEACE, let us bow our heads AND PRAY!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 4:55pm@Locked
Report Post »Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:45pm
She’s not crazy, but she is delusional. The idea that Bachmann has a personal line to God (and that He talks back) is a symptom of her ego, not her piety. Many people have thought they are God’s own personal messenger, but there was just one, and His name is Jesus. Michele Bachmann would do well to remember that and work on earthly issues rather than trumpeting her spiritual connections.
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I only pray that someday, you meet up with our Personal God, Who still cares about each individual, believer or nonbeliever on earth. He sent His Son to personally die for each of our sins, and make us a chance to come into Heaven, and as Jesus said, give us a right to say, “Abba, Father”! That’s a personal term, and it’s in the Bible, now translated into Most of the languages on earth so that each person on earth can read it and become His child. To pray for God’s guidance and then not expect to get His input is like getting a “Tom-Tom” for your car and typing the address into it, but not using batteries or plugging it in. (My son owns it, but I don‘t know how it’s powered) The fact is when you expect to find the power to help you, and you go through the proper steps to get that help, you certainly wouldn’t wreck your car from shock, when you hear a voice telling you what route to take! I love to travel with my son when he decides to take a different route without turning the Tom-Tom off, IT NEARLY YELLS AT HIM TO GET BA
Quietwolf
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 5:24pmI wonder did they question Obama regarding his beliefs or if he has any?
Report Post »Nancy in NC
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 5:27pmThe left mostly relies on the other g…government, and some seem to like Lucifer…ala Alinsky.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 5:40pmPart of my former comment got cut off, important enough to finish.
Report Post »re : To pray for God’s guidance and then not expect to get His input is like getting a “Tom-Tom” for your car and typing the address into it, but not using batteries or plugging it in. (My son owns it, but I don‘t know how it’s powered) The fact is when you expect to find the power to help you, and you go through the proper steps to get that help, you certainly wouldn’t wreck your car from shock, when you hear a voice telling you what route to take! I love to travel with my son when he decides to take a different route without turning the Tom-Tom off, IT NEARLY YELLS AT HIM TO GET BA
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The divice “nearly yells at him to get back on track??”
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Just a little example of the Holy Spirit, trying to get us back on the right road!
V-MAN MACE
Posted on June 28, 2011 at 7:04pmJesus Christ appeared to me in a vision in 2000. He looked young like he was immortal or something. He was in a UFO-looking spaceship with two old men with grey hair. They were his pilots.
But I’m not going to mention that in the context of a presidential bid, unless I want to be ridiculed…
But I suppose, if you’re going to boast, boast in the Lord…
Everything is starting to get a bit confusing.
Ron Paul 2012.
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