Is Chick-fil-A Really ‘Anti-Gay’? Business Takes Heat for Christian Values
- Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:15am by
Meredith Jessup
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Over the last month, Chick-fil-A has been branded and boycotted by gay activist groups after the family-owned restaurant announced it would donate refreshments for a conservative conference in February titled “The Art of Marriage: Getting to the Heart of God’s Design” at the Pennsylvania Family Institute.
The chicken eatery is headquartered in Atlanta, Ga., and has chains located across the country, with many in the country’s Bible Belt. In addition to serving up tasty fried chicken sandwiches, the company is also known for promoting Christian values. Chick-fil-A’s founder, S. Truett Cathy, is a devout Christian whose religious beliefs shine through his company, which invests heavily in community service organizations. In addition, all Chick-fil-A locations are closed on Sundays.
After a number of blogs picked up on the company’s “sponsorship” of the anti-gay marriage event, Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy posted a video on the company’s Facebook page to clarify the company’s stance. “Let me be clear, Chick-Fil-A serves all people and values all people,” Cathy said.
“Providing food to these events, or any event, is not an endorsement of the mission, political stance or motives of this or any other organization. Any suggestion otherwise is just inaccurate,” he added.
Dan Cathy Statement from Chick-fil-A on Vimeo.
Michael Geer, president of the Pennsylvania Family Institute, echoed Cathy’s statement, declaring the restaurant was simply trying to be “good neighbors.”
But bloggers weren‘t satisfied and criticized the Cathy family’s business for past donations to conservative family groups which oppose gay marriage, including the National Organization for Marriage’s Ruth Institute, a project whose primary purpose is to support traditional marriage.
Students and faculty at Indiana University in South Bend even petitioned the school’s administration to ban the restaurant and actually succeeded in getting the chain suspended from campus while the school took “time to properly review the issue.”
The recent controversy is not the company’s first. A Muslim franchise owner-in-training previously sued and settled out of court, accusing the company of firing him for abstaining from a Christian prayer during a work training event. Publicly, the company denied the allegations.
Additionally, Lake Lambert, author of the book Spirituality Inc., warns that the past month‘s uproar will not be the company’s last. “If you have a faith-based corporate identity and you want to function in the national marketplace, you’re going to continue to encounter resistance to those values because not everybody is going to share them,” Lambert told CNN. “The only other option is some sort of secular identity and that’s not where Chick-fil-A is going.”
In light of recent protests, the restaurant chain announced it was withdrawing support for so-called “anti-gay” groups.
“In recent weeks, we have been accused of being anti-gay,” Dan Cathy said in a written statement last Saturday. “We have no agenda against anyone.”
“While my family and I believe in the Biblical definition of marriage,” the statement continued, “we love and respect anyone who disagrees.”
But don’t think withdrawing financial support from conservative religious organizations means the Cathy family is letting business interest distract them from their faith.
“Chick-fil-A‘s Corporate Purpose is ’To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us, and to have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A,’” Dan Cathy added this week.
“As a result, we will not champion any political agendas on marriage and family. This decision has been made, and we understand the importance of it. At the same time, we will continue to offer resources to strengthen marriages and families. To do anything different would be inconsistent with our purpose and belief in Biblical principles.”
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jttri
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:52amChick-fil-A rocks, they have really good food. We have one right down the street and I will be spending more money there in support of them. And yes they are closed on Sundays :((
Report Post »Insipid
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:21amNot to mention, every Chick-fil-A I have been to have the most courteous staff of almost any fast food restraunt. It appears I am going to have to increase my visits from 2x to 3 or 4 x a week.
Report Post »INTUITIVE
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:48pmSunday is a day of rest
Report Post »Waltermelon
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 8:38pm@INTUITIVE
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:48pm
Sunday is a day of rest
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By what authority? SATURDAY is the day of rest, its written in stone.
Report Post »shellmen
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:51amIf Chic a fil is anti gay they will not be losing much business. The last time I checked the gay creeps are way in the minority.
Report Post »joecitizen
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:51amStand Strong – There are many challenges to come when you are a unabashed Christian – We already know how the story ends – He wins!!
Report Post »neverending
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:06amYou are exactly right. Just wish many millions more would feel the same way.
Report Post »BMWmech
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:50amIf it was a muslim or anti-christian, pro-gay restaurant pushing an agenda, there would be no problem.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:21pmMcDonald’s is a good example of that. BUT, if the radicals can’t come after you on values and morals, they will come after you for the kind of food they serve. So McDonald’s gets a pass from gays because they donate money to gay organizations but gets hammered by M. Obama’s food police.
Report Post »the point
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:48amBecause they have Christian values is the main reason I eat there.
Report Post »RollinDudeHeavy
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:46amI am lucky enough to have a couple CFA’s around me and I patronize them all. They are clean, have great food and their employees’ are genuinely nice to you! CFA is always having community events and giving away their time and food. They are also having a father/daughter event (Oh the horror…more family values! I hope it won‘t be too offensive to girls who’s father isn’t around)
Report Post »I am not a particularly religious person, but I am very happy to support them. Good for them for sticking to their values and business model.
ellietoo
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:44amSo it is OK to fight against family values. What do gays have against family values? So anyone who promotes marriage is anti gay? Is everyone supposed to promote gay values? I hope this causes more families and Christians to eat at Chick-Fil-A. Whenever politically motivated gay groups try to destroy a business because of what they believe in people should support the business even more. I will eat lunch and dinner there everyday in order to counter this leftist attack. I’ll buy gift certificates for others to eat there. How dare they try to ruin a business for supporting traditional values!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:53amDitto and Amen
Report Post »Geloh
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:42amMMMmmmm none in Canada…. chicken I mean!!!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:48amdoes that mean the gays won in Canda???
Report Post »Average_JoeMN
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:40amThe screamers for “tolerance” are the most tolerant people out there. They don’t want you to tolerant them, they demand acceptance without question. Without that acceptance it is their belief that you should no longer be able to speak (or believe) your beliefs. The “gay rights” radicals are nothing but extremist intolerance bigots of the worst kind.
Report Post »Citizen #25R624
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:38amHow to deal with the Intolerant Left? “Eat Mor Chikin”
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:37amYou go, Chick… Please stand. Do NOT let the filth pull you down. Everyone here who is CHRISTIAN and believes what GOD teaches us needs to support this franchise. If the sad, lost people show up against them, then, we, too, must show up for them and for GOD.
I grew up when all stores were closed on Sundays. That was a good thing!
Report Post »sandyn
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:36amWe want the freedom to behave this way. We also want the freedom to cause problems for anyone who does not agree with us. I used to be supportive of gays and sympathetic to their cause even tho I disagree with a lot of it. All they have succeeded to do for me is make me so anti gay that I will support anything they despise.
Report Post »Margaret Thatcher
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:44amDitto that!
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:52amSo….freedom only works ONE WAY !!!
Report Post »I see. Freedom only applies to certain things.
mcpbob
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:35amthe fact is these groups are ANTI RELIGION, basically because their chosen lifestyle is not supported by most religions, so they attack what they are no longer accepted into…. we all make our own choices in life, and we all have to live with them.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:33amYou got to stand for something or you will fall for anything,it’s good to know there are still some businesses that will stand up for their Christian beliefs,Wouldn’t hurt my feelings any if all stores were closed on Sundays.
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:06pmI’m old enough to remember back when most,if not all stores,were closed on Sunday.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:32amI am sick to death of activists of one sort or another imposing their narrow narcissistic views on the world and dividing up our country. I have something to say to them…The world is not all about you! Shut up about your petty causes and pull together with us to restore America’s peace and prosperity.
Report Post »I am so glad I raised my children not to whine and to be considerate of others. You know…common decency.
Desert Dog
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:30amAgain, they go after the Good People. Chick hasn’t hurt one person. They are just doing business with Christian values, and that’s why they are being targeted. Another sign of our times.
Report Post »chasbronson
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:24amanti -christian bigotry is correct
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:29amOk, I’m so sick of this estiamted 3 -8 % of the population wagging the dog. I’m so sick of it having to come up in almost every single hollywood movie – first for humor – not to say everybody has to accept it. Bullsnot. Everybody has the right to choose their sexual preference. My personally, I believe homosexuality is wrong but, QUIT, QUIT trying to make the 92 – 97% of the population have to say it should be ok for us too. If whatever part of the ~3 – 8% of the gay community EVEN eats at Chik-fil-a does not want to eat there any more – GREAT – more chicken for the rest of us.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:36am@etetetet
Report Post »I like the way you said what I feel about the whiny activists.
etetetet
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:37amsome days these keyboards can’t type worth a damn but, hopefully you can read/understand through my typos. :)
Report Post »gopsnativeson
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:27amHave you ever noticed how all of these groups want “forced acceptance” of their view & stance, at the same time they deny legitimacy to an opposing view.
The party of tolerance, the big tent party.
Report Post »Cherbear
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:35amAnd I’m totally fed up with being “forced.” Time to stand our ground!!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:47am@nativeson…..Its a big tent. “Getin here or we”ll sue you!!” HAHA You are sooooooo right.
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:13amIts like Ron Whites version of the debate team….Oh yeah well “F U” that usually ends the debate. PCers can kiss my arse!
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:26am.
Chick should have been there first clue.
What gays can’t eat Blessed Chicken?
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:31am.
“Chick-fil-A‘s Corporate Purpose is ’To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us, and to have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A,’” Dan Cathy
That’s kinda what the U.S.A. did before Obama and the uneducated masses, RAPED! the country that gave them everything
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:28amMy brother is gay…he eats there all the time…
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:14am.
Report Post »You mean your half sister
jedi.kep
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:25amThey’ve got my business! All those gay folks need to sit down and shut the *#*#@ up!
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:40am.
Report Post »You forgot the upside down Bar stool……….
SgtWark
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 11:59amno kidding, the gays already have a whole state for themselves…. California.
Report Post »Old Truckers
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:23pmIn California, there are still twelve straight people left. So, there is hope, right?
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:25amFreedom of Religion, unless you are a Christian, and then you become a target. If you don’t hire Muslims then you are prejudiced. If a Muslim applies for a job at Chick-fil-A or a grocery store they should know in advance what the job requirements are and should apply somewhere else. How ’bout if every student that went to school only wanted to follow one or two requirements, does anyone see the teacher’s union agreeing? It‘s the school’s way or the highway. This company should be able to set its rules, give to whomever it pleases and, like the unions, tell people to go “pound sand” if they don’t like it.
Report Post »Cherbear
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:33amYou go Grandma:) It’s just like a TV show, you don’t like it, turn the channel; you don’t like their policies at Chik, don’t buy there. Thank God someone is sticking to their principles.
Report Post »ilovethiscountry
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:01amRight on Grandmaof5. This grandma of 5 wishes she could eat there. I can’t eat gluten, but I support their right to have Christian values.
Report Post »OnToppaThat
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:27amgreat analysis
Report Post »juneau
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:44am@ILOVETHISCOUNTRY…I’m gluten-free, too, and usually get a salad from them, which is always fresh!
Everytime my family goes there, we leave uplifted by the, “My pleasure!” we hear after every request. Chick-Fil-A needs to stand true to their values and support whatever organization or event they want. I’m sure, if the event/organization is hateful toward gays, it wouldn’t support them, as it does not jive with Biblical values. And if people don’t want to support Chick-Fil-A because of their values, then they can just drive on by. That’s what a marketplace is all about; you can choose where you spend your money…I prefer to spend mine on a company who hires the kind of people I’d hire to watch my kids on date night.
Report Post »Fender726
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:23amI will be buying more Chic-fil-a, have a nice day.
Report Post »DUMBASPELOSI
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:17amME TOO! I will be going at least once a day for a month.
It’ll be good for me – usually I‘m doing Taco Bell or Wendy’s . . . and I’m sure the calorie count at Chick-fil-A will be around 400 less.
This is called a win-win-win . . .
1. I lose weight and get healthier.
Report Post »2. I support a values driven company.
3. I shove my spending up the boycott‘s originator’s ass (which they may in fact want).
SgtWark
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 11:58amMy point exactly…. I’ll be spending money there as well. Hell I’ll go in and buy a larger water and get a salad. (I dont eat fast food much)
Report Post »norbit
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:22amTURN THE TABLES – Specifically, ACCUSE the people alleging this of Blatant Anti-CHRISTIAN Bigotry.
Tell them, if this were said about MUSLIMS, these Left-Wing Groups – and THEIR Mainstream Media – would be screaming Islamic Bigotry up & down the block!
Report Post »what4
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:22amI will now have to support this franchise, anyone that has to put up with tose fruits and nuts, has my business!
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:12am10-4, I’m getting lunch there Monday!
Report Post »YellowFin
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:22amI would never choose to eat at, or do business with, a homosexual identified business.
Report Post »I have principles.
bobodu
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:44amSo where in the New Testament is homosexuality a perversion or sin?
Report Post »There are only three VAGUE references made and Jesus never said anything about it at all!!
This is hardly a guarantee to eternity in hell.
“For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is not male and female, there is neither homosexual nor heterosexual; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. ”
When are you people going to “cowboy up” and just admit that gays creep you out??
You don’t seem to mind Mary Cheney….
YellowFin
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:02pmbobodu,
Report Post »There is no way that you can say that the counsel from the scriptures condones homosexuality. You are barking up the wrong tree. I know you want society to look upon you with favor but it will never happen. Just as society views thievery, adultery, murder, and such like sins, homosexuality is not excused from the sin category.
Romans 1:24-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
jedi.kep
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:34pm@bob, Nice way to rewrite the scripture verse. If you’d actually look up the scripture verses, you would clearly see that homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures along with adultery, murder, hate and lust. Nothing vague about the issue at all. The matter is clear as crystal.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:30pmHomosexuality might be against scripture, but so are things like eating shellfish. Why do you pick and choose what to follow?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:59pm@bobodu
You peddling liberalism?
Not buying liberalism’s lack of morals.
I’m buying Chick-fil-A sandwiches and salads and coffee.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:01pmGreat question Nick! It is actually a hard matter for most Christians. Maybe Matthew 5:17 can shed some light on that for you. Jesus came to fulfill the law and He did so on the cross. Jesus is the final interpreter of and authority over the law and its meaning. Jesus restated some of the Old Testament law (Matthew 19:18-19), modified some (Matthew 5:31-32), intensified some (Matthew 5:21-22), changed some significantly (Matthew 5:33-37, 38-42, 43-47), and some He did away with entirely (Mark 7:15-19). Jesus did not advocate the continued traditional adherence to the law nor the total dismissal of the law. Jesus taught that the meaning of the law must be interpreted in the light of His coming and of the New Covenant.
What does all that mean? That you do not go to hell for being a homosexual….Well…That is actually not right, let me rephrase that. You DO go to hell for telling a single lie. You go to hell for a single wicked thought, a single adulterous glance, a single hateful stare. EVERYONE is slated for hell, no exceptions. Jesus Christ was the ONLY human that ever lived that was perfect and sinless. The only way to NOT go to hell is by claiming the gift Christ freely gives you. You must accept Him, surrender to Him…Marry Him. By doing this you will be pardoned…Even if you are homosexual. Jesus died for ALL sin, not just some. The thing is, if you are a born again believer you are going to find it difficult to continue in your perversions. But I will say no more on that matter. We all have our thorns and fight our battles. Some with smoking, some with sexual perversions such as pornography…Mine is my language. We are all sinners and remain so while we are here.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:59pmtrolltrainer,
Report Post »I enjoy your comments but a clarification on the word “hell”.
The word “hell” is an English word. It was used early on during the translating process of English language Bibles from the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic texts.
The word “hell” today is a translation of the Hebrew word “Sheol” which means the “grave or pit”.
In the Greek language, “hell is a translation of the word ”Hades” which means the same thing, the grave or pit.
So, by using “hell”, it paints the picture of eternal damnation, whereas using “sheol or hades” actually means the common grave of all mankind. And we know what Ecclesiastes 9:5 says.
So there is no conscious suffering in hell at all. We are only asleep, awaiting the promised resurrection in the Lord’s Day.
Don’t believe me? Research it, we don’t want to mislead people do we?
trolltrainer
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 6:20amBearfoot,
So you believe in the end everyone gets to heaven? :-(
I have bad news for you brother…You need to read Revelation a little more carefully. Those who do not know Christ shall NEVER see life. It could not be any clearer throughout the Bible. You ARE correct on Sheol or Hades but do not let that fool you. There will be the Great White Throne Judgment then the Lake of Fire for nonbelievers. It has alternately been described as outer darkness, but that is a translation issue and the thought is the apartness from God and not the lack of light.
I do remember having this same conversation with you a couple times in the distant past. I see you did not research the verses I used to support this argument back then. I am not going to repeat myself now. This is one of the clearest doctrine in the Bible. Jesus Himself said many times that the ONLY way to the Father is through Him. There is no mistaken language here. If you do not believe the Son you SHALL PERISH. I pray the Holy Spirit leads you to this truth as it is paramount to your walk as a Christian to understand this.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 11:23amTrolltrainer,
Whoa, hold on there brother, you are assuming a wrong conclusion. You said; “So you believe in the end everyone gets to heaven? :-(”
I do not believe that, and I have never stated or implied it.
When our Lord Jesus was hanging on the stake, waiting to die, he address a criminal hanging on a similar stake next to him and in Luke 23:39-43 we find the short conversation. That criminal did not know God or Jesus in any kind of reverential way, yet Jesus told him he would be with him in paradise. To accomplish that. Jesus would have to resurrect the man. And since he did not qualify to be in heaven with Jesus, (he was not a Christian) he would be resurrected into his Kingdom during the Lords Day. Daniel 2:44 tells us what that Kingdom is. The Kingdom of God is a government in heaven that will rule the entire earth. Those who never had a complete opportunity to understand Jesus’ ransom sacrifice, will, at that time be resurrected. Jesus died for the entire world of mankind, not just for those who had the opportunity to know him.
Report Post »slonlo
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 2:46pmBear, I love that. That answers a lot of questions that I have that I’ve never gotten a clear answer on. I was always told that “the punishment for sin was eternal separation from God… that means burning in fire and being attacked by demons.” Wha huh? I haven’t read the New Testament all through in one sitting, or honestly studied it like I should, but from what I remember and can understand it never says that. From what I remember, THAT “torture hell” comes from Greek mythology, similar to what you said. The dead go to Hades, the WICKED among them are sent to Tartarus, a place of torture, and torment. There is no hell in Judaism, so lets look at the timeline. Coming up on the first century BC, we have Romans, who adopted pretty much all Greek religion verbatim… SO early Christians could have easily adopted this view, because just rotting in the ground and not knowing about it might not seem too bad to some people. Doesn’t match heaven, but meh… (not my attitude of course, just what some may think). So they needed something BAD to happen to you if you didn’t accept Christ. Scaring people into God‘s love doesn’t really match Jesus’ message.
As for eternal separation from God… we ARE separated from Him now. Physically at least. By knowing Him we can be united spiritually. By default thanks to Adam and Eve, we are separated from God. If we don’t know Him, we aren’t even spiritually connected to him.
Even when I was a little kid (of no more than 5) I had problems with those who died before Jesus came, what happened with them? Never got a clear answer on that either. I LOVE the example of the thief on the cross. He never prayed the “Sinner’s Prayer” or got down on his knees in front of his church, but and like you said, had no earthly clue who Jesus was, but Jesus told him point blank, “I‘ll catch ya up at my Dad’s house later on, bro.” How does that fit? Lot of questions, and I have just been told I was wrong. That there are “things we can’t understand until we get to heaven.” Well I’m questioning with boldness, because I really see disconnects in what I was taught and what I understand about the Bible.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 3:46pmslonlo,
Report Post »Thank you, you have encouraged me more than you know. Most people do not understand the finer points of the scriptures because they are so blinded by false and even apostate teachings of Christendom’s churches. I try to keep my comments as brief as possible here, so as not to overwhelm readers with too much information at once.
The next time Jehovah’s Witnesses visit, ask them a question or two. They know more than the churches know.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 9:21pmTo BEAR and SLONLO…..Just to clarify for you both. Yes in the strict since Sheol was understood to be a common grave to both the righteous and the unrighteous to the OT Jewish believers both of which awaited resurrection unto final judgment and destination. In this sense this is in agreement with Jesus’ teachings that there would be a final day of Judgment where the dead would be raised to eternal life or eternal damnation. However, you are most very wrong in stating that the Bible or Jesus did not teach an eternal location of eternal punishment and suffering (where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth). Jesus used many illustrations including the place known as Gehenna (the place false worship and child sacrifice took place, the fires that would burn here went on and on for very long periods of time, it was the trash heap of Jerusalem). Jesus spoke that we should not fear those who can only destroy the body but He (God) who can destroy both body and soul in “hell” where the “worm dieth not” He was changing their concept of what the afterlife was with regard to eternal judgment. He did this in many ways not contradicting the OT but simply expounding on the revelation of it. However, if it is the modern concept of hell that you are looking for Revelation is quite clear and it uses the “lake of fire” phraseology which most definitely refers to an eternal separation from God in pain and suffering for all eternity it is the final destination for all the wicked unbelieving creatures both human and demon. Jesus most assuredly did teach an eternal “lake of fire” concept and spoke on this more than Heaven in the NT. Read it for yourselves. Do not be deceived by the evil one. He did the same thing with Eve when He got her to question “did God really say when you ate of it that you would die?“ ” You surely won’t die for God knows when you eat of it that you will be like Him knowing good and evil” Same thing now He is undermining the concept of an eternal spiritual death. That is exactly what physical death is suppose to represent spiritually. Gehenna was very much understood in Jesus’ day to represent a final spiritual death with no resurrection where the fire burns on !!!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 9:33pmBEAR….you completely twisted the meaning and the event of the thief on the cross. He began when reading all the gospels of the event insulting Jesus just as the other thief, but some time as they continued to hang there he had a change of heart and actually rebuked the other thief for mocking Jesus. Claiming that they deserved what they were getting but Jesus did not deserve it. He was repenting by acknowledging his guilt and Jesus’ innocence. He asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom. His kingdom indicates that the man changed his heart and acknowledged Jesus as the Messiah. It was by faith the thief on the cross was saved. In the larger picture of what was going on it was a picture between all humanity and Jesus. All humanity will die like both thieves. Some will never repent and receive Christ others will, even though they began as his enemy. Just like the repentant thief. Your exegesi of the Scriptures is not accurate and very is a very dangerous teaching. Jesus said on the last day (judgment day you will receive your just reward or punishment based on a life lived in faith of what He did on the cross, this will be evident in the fruit of a truly repentant heart , ie the following things listed ………..31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Matt 25
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 12:10amwatchtheotherhand,
Report Post »“Eternal punishment” is death, forever.
It is not a fire torment, because you cannot be tormented if you are dead.
Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10
So, logically, eternal death is a punishment for those who knowingly reject our Lord Jesus, is it not? I’m sure you can figure this out.
Bearfoot
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 12:21amA correction:
Report Post »I said “So, logically, eternal death is a punishment for those who knowingly reject our Lord Jesus, is it not?”
It should read; So, logically, eternal death is THE punishment for those who knowingly reject our Lord Jesus, is it not?
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 9:32amIt most certainly is, but to suggest that when the dead are raised that they will have a second chance to “accept” Christ is not biblical at all…….18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1 ……If what you stated was true about those who “haven‘t had the opportunity to understand Jesus’ sacrifice” why then do we evangelize? They will get a second chance….Scripture is very clear……..27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, Hebrews 9. 21 Once more Jesus said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.” John 8. Will the Amalekites be given the chance to accept Jesus at the last day? God said they were a wicked people to be totally wiped out. Every man, woman and child. What of the evil Egyptian pharaoh, who was a typology for Satan. If you look at the account of Noah’s ark you will see that in this life those people were preached to by Noah of a coming Judgment. They rejected his message. When the rains started they would have wanted on, but God told Noah once the door was shut it was to stay shut. This is a symbolic story as well. The flood is the wrath of God in judgment against evil and sin. Noah and his family represent the family of believers. The ark represents the salvation of Jesus. It is clear from the Lord’s on teaching there was not “another chance” to repent. Jesus also made it very clear that eternal punishment was not death as you define it. Death represents a separation from not an annihilation of………42 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. [44] [b] 45 And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. [46] [c] 47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where
“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
Report Post »and the fire is not quenched.’[d] Mark 9
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:29amIf there is no eternal punishment in the lake of fire for all wicked creatures then there can be no eternal heaven for the righteous. It is just not possible from the biblical account of these 2 things. If eternal punishment meant eternal death….ie no suffering. Then why repent, why follow Christ the “punishment” for all wickedness is I just won’t be awake spiritually?? Why not just do what you want now and not sweat it………7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. Jude 1. That reads those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire it says nothing about dying at all but everything about suffering eternally in fire………10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev 20……..8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Rev 21. You see both scriptures clearly state that the lake of burning sulfur (or fire) same thing is forever and ever and both demons and wicked men are cast into it. They are separated forever from God not annihilated. We were created in God’s image….We have an eternal spirit. Either unto life or unto “death” meaning condemnation forever.
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Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:53amWhat do you make of Jesus’ teaching on eternal death given the story of the rich man and Lazarus? This doesn’t fit with your interpretation at all……..19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” Luke 16
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 10:59amWatchtheotherhand,
You said; “It most certainly is, but to suggest that when the dead are raised that they will have a second chance to “accept” Christ is not biblical at all”
I’m sorry, you are just not getting it. Again, your response is not what I am trying to get across.
In the resurrection, those people from all of human history who never had a chance, or had a real opportunity to know of, or to understand the magnificent gift of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice will be given the chance to learn of it, and to have a real opportunity to respond properly to our God and His Son, Jesus. Put yourself in the shoes of a man living in the year 750 in China for instance. Because of his situation he never heard of Jesus, the Christ of God. He lives his whole life and never knew, he dies. Does not Jesus’ sacrifice apply to him? Of course it does, the Chinese man will be given a chance to understand the only means of salvation. The only way that can be for the man is if he is resurrected by our Lord.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 11:36amBear…. I actually do fully understand what you meant and I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on that issue. I do not believe that men will be resurrected to respond to the gospel at the end of the age. I do not believe that you can point to one scripture that teaches that truth. It is simply man trying to justify the actions of God. Salvation belongs to Him not to us. He is not unjust in sending anyone to hell “lake of fire”. Read Romans chapter 9. So what qualifies as hearing about Jesus and what He did. What if someone gives a partial or half true gospel. Isn’t that why Paul said let anyone who preaches another gospel be anathema (condemned). If they get another chance then what is the big deal. Why did Paul risk so much to take the Gospel to the gentile world. Since most people do reject the Gospel upon hearing it. We would be more wise to stay silent and let them see the risen Christ then. Surely more would receive the Gospel then. There is simply no scripture to support your position. It is simply an attempt to make salvation “fair” because we struggle with God’s salvation. Remember scripture says it is He that determines the time and place of our birth. You must really struggle with Exodus where God says in combo with Pharaoh hardening his own heart that God says He is also responsible for hardening it. God said……I will have mercy on whom I have mercy and compassion on whom I have compassion. It makes no difference what men consider fair or just. We cannot read into scripture things that are not there to make us more comfortable with Him and His salvation. I realize I will not change your mind and you will not change my mind. I wish you the best and hope that the common ground we can share is that Jesus and his sacrifice should be held up and the gospel be preached.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 11:47amIn your belief men who actually hear and don’t respond now would have been unfairly treated compared to those who being resurrected by Christ would see Him and their resurrection. Who wouldn’t receive His gospel then??? If I was an unbeliever who had heard I would have the same issue you are trying to avoid by stating that they will be given another chance. I could claim I didn’t understand I was deceived. It just doesn’t line up with scripture.
Report Post »Bearfoot
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 12:03pmWatchtheotherhand,
You said; “I do not believe that men will be resurrected to respond to the gospel at the end of the age. I do not believe that you can point to one scripture that teaches that truth.”
John 5:26-29, Acts 24:15, Revelation 20:12-13, Hebrews 9:27-28
I post these scriptures for the benefit of any who is following this comment string. I do not think WATCHTHEOTHERHAND is of the mind to accept these truths. There is too much religious confusion and it causes minds to reject the truth of what God’s Kingdom is. All they want to hold on to is their belief in a eternal punishment in a hell-fire revenge. That is not what the love of Christ is all about. John 3:16
Bearfoot
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 12:26pmThe subject of the resurrection and of judgment is is by no means limited to just a few scriptures. It is a fascinating study and information on the subject is found throughout the scriptures. To understand the import of these subjects, a person needs to understand the role Jesus has in the Kingdom of God.
Report Post »The Kingdom of God, and it’s blessings for the human family through Jesus Christ is the theme of the entire Bible. The future resurrection of dead mankind is a major element in the redeeming of mankind to a favored position before our Creator. Salvation is through Jesus Christ, there is no other way.
Citizen
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:21amIm gonna go get a chik-fil-a
Love the last two paragraphs. At least they have courage because you know how many companies would never say anything like that.
Report Post »nptden
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:35amBring these people up on charges of ‘hate speech’ against Christians.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:43amRefreshment sponsorship of a marriage conference….does not anti-gay make. I applaud them for their courage and will eat as much Chick Fil A as I can get my hands on as long as tose stupid boycotts are in effect. A BUYCOTT! They should stay true to their corporate mission and we the people will have their back.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:53amMe too. My daughter works at Chick-fil-A; they treat they’re employees very well. After two years working there they’re eligible for a $1,000 scholarship. She’s been there since she turned 15. There aren’t too many places anymore that will hire a 15-year-old and give them a chance. I say we BUYcot Chick-fil-A instead!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:54amWish there was a Chick-fil-A out here in the boonies!
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:59amChick-Fil-A is always a great addition to any community and their workers are THE most responsible and friendly you’ll find anywhere. Evidently they are doing something right….I say let them be and EAT MORE CHIKIN!!
Report Post »chuck
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:59amThey are a Christian based company, leave them alone! America was still a free country last time I checked…
Report Post »bobodu
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:10am“In light of recent protests, the restaurant chain announced it was withdrawing support for so-called “anti-gay” groups.”
I know this is hard, but I’ll try to make it simple for you Beck fans.
Report Post »They have given up their “moral beliefs” because people got mad and Chick-fil-A needs the money. You can’t pay people with morality. Sure see a lot of people driving by ( myself included) that really wanted to try a sandwich on Sunday.
Sheepdog911
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:17amI love this company. Now, if only our Country were still run on those same principles.
Report Post »polishboy
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:22amWhen is this nonsense going to stop. I had the pleasure of playing in a golf tournament in Atlanta a year ago that benefited the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.Chik-fil-A was the primary sponsor and the Cathy family was personally involved in the tournament.Before we teed off, all the participants gathered together and Dan Cathy performed the Star Spangled Banner on his trumpet, then we all said the Pledge of Allegiance.I was so impressed by this sincere love for God and this country.We should be grateful that we have folks like the Cathy family that promote these values.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:26amOne thing bad about Chick-fil-a…you can’t get a breakfast biscuit in the way to Church becuse they are closed…
THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:28amI’m sorry, but i think that Chic-Fil-A caved. They were protested by gay activist and they caved. What happened to ‘their’ Christian principles ?
God loves everyone, but not certain peoples lifestyle, whether it be gay or streight. I tolerate gays but not their activisim. Being anti-Christian is OK, but being anti-gay is ‘hate’? Where is equality under the law? Oh, that’s right, it’s the liberal agenda that metters. Seems that the only ‘boycott’ a Christian is allowed is to vote anti-Liberal-Progressive.
mill
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:29amHEY!!! what the hell!!! an American company with morals and values>>> can’t have that stuff goin on.!!!! love the last 2 paragraphs.. There is always someone in our country looking to be offended, such a shame
Report Post »They have my families business!
ishka4me
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:39amMy wife works with a very nice gay woman. We never knew but there are hundreds of products and places the militant gays oppose and boycott for little offense. some products are boycotted because they don’t use gay life style in advertisement.
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:42amOf course this company has the Right to do whatever it wants, however, I would like to make a point about so-called “Christian” businesses.
Please give me some quotes from JESUS where he says ANYTHING positive about accumulating wealth…or even that you’re supposed to accumulate wealth–it’s not there. But THESE are:
Matthew 6:19-21 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in and steal; for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon”. And what is “mammon”? Wealth.
In Mark 10: 17-25 a rich young ruler asks Jesus how one needs to act in order to obtain eternal life. And Jesus says “You know the commandments. Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, and Honor your father and mother.” The man then says he has done all these things, is there anything else? And Jesus answers: “You lack one thing: go and sell all you possess, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven.” Since the man owned lots of property, and obviously didn’t want to give it away, he walked away dejected. So Jesus turned to the disciples and said: “How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”! That’s pretty straight forward isn’t it? Absolutely no ambiguity in those words is there?
Luke 12:15 “avoid greed in all its forms.”
Luke 12:33 “Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys.”
Luke 14:33 “no one of you can be my disciple who does not give up all of his own possessions.”
Or simply refute this short video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV0IZMUutiA
GayDem4Beck
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:49amChick-fil-A is a pawn in this issue and they’ve had that label for decades. Coors had the same Anti-Gay label, until a Coors family member came out of the closet, now they support things like Gay Prides around the country. Personally, I don’t think boycotts work & I love me some Chick-fil-A sandwiches! If we all practice Equal Liberties, Equal Freedoms, Equal Justice, Equal Rights then there shouldn’t be an issue.
One side wants Marriage Equality, and IMO wrongly gone to Social Justice to get that equality.
- What do they want Gay Marriage, When do they want it NOW
One side wants to restrict Marriage as a religious matter between a Man/Woman.
- What do they want Marriage between a man/woman, When do they want it NOW
IMHO – If marriage was strictly a religious matter (in this country), you wouldn’t need a marriage license to get married. If marriage was strictly a religious matter, justice of the peace and other non religious people wouldn’t be able to marry couples. If marriage was strictly a religious matter, it wouldn’t effect how you file your taxes. Etc.
Allot of the Religious Right arguments on Gay Marriage are the same arguments that were used against Interracial Marriages. Some how it was going to destroy religion. It‘s NOT and DIDN’T! In this country we all have the same rights to practice religion as we want and we each have the right to peruse happiness as we see fit. If churches don’t want to marry gay couples then they can lose out on revenues.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:53amIt is their product and their money that they have earned. What and who they chose to support with their product and money IS THEIR BUSINESS and no elses. The time is now to stop giving into the demands of the left.
Report Post »There are more conservatives/right wingers in the US than the commie leftest anyway. Who gives a RATS ASS what they like or don’t like. Time for all Americans public and private to COWBOY UP and push back………..VICTORY OR DEATH
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:03amI guess I wish they would not have seemingly backed away from supporting some groups that are pro-marriage !!! Notice how the gay community wants to frame the argument so as to demonize the opposition that holds an opposing view. It is NOT anti-gay. It is holding to the universally grounded and rooted in human history belief that marriage is between a man and a woman !!!! It is a sacred commitment between a man and a woman and this mostly for the purpose of raising children !!! We cannot back away from these militant pro-gay groups….At first they just wanted tolerance, now this just won’t do…..Now they want acceptance and endorsement and special protection under the law to shut the mouths of preachers !!!! May it never be so, we must always preach the truth regardless of the circumstances. The Bible is VERY CLEAR, no homosexual will enter the kingdom of Heaven !!
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:04amMy family and I eat at Chik-Fil-A all of the time BECAUSE they support Christian values…..I do not support groups or companies that DO NOT support Christian values ar who openly support Progressive groups/organizations such as Ben and Jerry’s, GE, and others……I have that right as an American citizen…..if the pro-gay lobby wants to boycot a Christian establishment, then that is fine by me…..but don’t call me a “hater” because I do something in opposition to them……
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:12amTo S G APPLEBEE……..I hate to inform you of this but compared to most of the rest of the world and most people who lived in the past we are incredibly wealthy….Even those who live a modest lifestyle here in the USA live like kings compared to most other brothers and sisters both past and present. We have to be very careful about demonizing money itself. Jesus was emphasizing our stewardship of what we have been given. Remember it is the “love” of money that is the root of many kinds of evil….not money itself. Remember, Pastors need to be paid and missionaries need to be sent. If all Christians were poverty stricken who is going to continue to fund these things??? It’s the love of money and our stewardship of what we have that is the issue of all those scriptures you listed.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:34amI bet you could get Democrats to stop spending before you could get people to boycott Chik Fila!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:34amTO GAYDEM4BECK……ummm you have so many fallacies I don’t know where to start. First it is not a sin to be black, white, Asian, red or other. Homosexuality is a behavior not a racial identity. Inter-racial marriage was a misunderstanding/misuse of God’s directive in the OT to not intermarry (Jews with other races) not because they were different race but because they worshiped false gods and so it was meant to be a protection to God’s people not to be led astray by false beliefs that would occur through intermarriage. And marriage was a religious matter before this country was ever even conceived. Our government recognized marriage as a civil contract because it was the foundation of a HEALTHY society. You want civil unions for tax purposes then fine have them. You want a justice of the peace to marry you then fine have it, but DO NOT try to force those who believe it is an abomination to accept it as marriage or to have access to a faithful minister of the gospel to perform it, claiming it is the same thing as a religious marriage……….. it is not. You have it completely backwards…marriage was first a religious matter and our government was founded on that truth first, that’s why it has always been viewed as such in this country.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:43amTO GAYDEM4BECK…….We don’t have religious freedom !!!!! Militant gay groups spy on church services everywhere and report them under hate speech laws if they preach or quote the scriptures on homosexuality. Then the feds threaten the churches tax exemption status if they don’t comply. And really ? Revenues….you think the real church is concerned about revenues !! wow ……What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world yet loses his own soul???
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:51amThis is a privately held company with every right to support causes in which they believe. But as is typical these days, I am left disappointed that they insist on blurring the edges of their conviction. Their providing of free food IS an endorsement of the event’s anti-gay agenda. Before you tout the courage and conviction of Chik Fil A, you need to find it first. “We think every gay person is a sinner, an abomination to God living in an unnatural state by choice, and is gong to hell.” That is what the Christian fundamentalist community believes. Why is Chik Fil A so afraid/ashamed to say it?
Report Post »Dandylyon
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:57amGay is in,moral’s are out,it’s that simple.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:07amTrue to American Values? You’re definition of American values differ from mine, so don’t generalize what an American Value is. I believe at the heart of what an American Value is freedom, not religious bigotry, but that’s my definition. If you believe religious bigotry is the heart of your American Values, have at it. I’ll still cherish freedom while you Conservatives, the champions of liberty, take away those freedoms. You are essentially no better than the Liberals your criticize on a daily basis.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:12amDon’t get my last comment wrong. I believe Chik-Fil-A as a private business, has the right to uphold their own values to the way they do business. Is it enough for me to boycott them? No, though I don’t eat much Chick-Fil-A, their sandwiches are delicious! I firmly believe businesses have the right to discriminate, feel free to alienate potential customers. Your competition will be more than willing to take their money, perhaps one day running you out of business. Who knows? Hey that’s capitalism baby! You take whatever risk you want alienating certain groups, that’s on you. There’s plenty of other fast food restaurants to eat at and give money to.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:17amThe gay rights groups complain about anyone who speaks out against homosexualism and now don’t want anyone to speakout for Biblical moral and marriage principles. Well, if the gays don’t like the“straight folks” that’s tough, there’s a lot more of us than of them. Besides, we straight folks can procreate, gays can’t. I applaud Chicken-Fil-A for it‘s Christian stand and Iwell eat enough chicken sandwitches to make up for the ones gays don’t eat. We straight people aren’t trying to force anyone to be straight, but the gay crowd tries to do exactly that, force people to accept gays as those who practice an alternate lifestyle. Homosexualism is not an alternate lifestylke, it’s a diviate and perverted lifestyle. God condemns such sexual activity as being grossly sinful. Thanks Chicken-Fil-A for your Christian principles and for having the courage to stand up for what’s right in the eyes of God.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:20amThey should donate food to the next MLK event in their area. I am sure no one would have a problem with them supporting a civil rights commemorative. What? Black people eating chicken is a negative stereotype? Don’t be ridiculous. Nobody could be that knuckleheaded!
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:27amI applaud their courage. You have to speak the truth regardless of the consequences.
Next:
1. Henchman Holder will sue them.
2. GLADD will call for a national boy cot.
3. Hollywood will make condemning movies about them.
4. 90% of all stories about Chick-fil-a in the MSM will be negative.
5. Slimy lawyers will sue them saying that there’s no meat in their sandwiches.
6. All public, multiple death shootings will be blamed on Chick-fil-a.
8. Al Gore will declare that Chick-fil-a contributes to Global Warming.
Did I miss any?
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:33amI saw an interview with the founder of CFA on TV a long time ago. He is a great guy and has built a great business on Christian principles, including tithing. I would eat there if there was one in my area if for no other reason because they directly or indirectly support the kingdom of God in this world.
The places I avoid are ones like Burger King, Carl’s Jr, McDonalds and others that use raunchy commercials to sell their food. Especially McDonalds since they support gay organizations with large donations. Besides, watching Paris Hilton seductively wash a car in a bathing suit does not make me hungry. In fact it has just the opposite effect on me!
Doesn’t freedom mean that you can eat wherever you want? If you are gay and want to eat at McDonalds, go for it. If I want to eat at CFA because I feel more comfortable for any reason, then I will. That’s freedom! Let freedom sort it out instead of trying to destroy those whom you disagree with……..Guess that’s too simple!
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:55amS G APPLEBEE, why, then, are you on this site of ordinary everyday people who probably aren’t millionaires? Why aren’t you boycotting Hollywood, or professional athletes, George Soros, Obama, Alan Grayson, Barney Franks and boyfriend, etc. who ARE millionaires? You can quote scripture all day long but I would bet the legitimate bloggers on this site give far more of what they have to charity than you do. You are self-rightous and in no position to criticize us. I think you should turn your attention to the afore mentioned, especially Hollywood, and see how far that gets you. In case you haven’t noticed, Hollywood is in business to make money, they are capitalists.
Report Post »THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:58amTo S G APPLEBEE. good vid but not too clear.
Report Post »A born again believer (redeemed by Christ for eternity)
but not necessarily a deciple, a Christian (a follower of Christ), a ‘church’ goer, etc. A born again beliver is one who is sealed in the Holy Spirit for eternity through the redemption of Christ. Nothing more, nothing less. Through the blood of Christ only.
waggie
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:59amWe have seen so many companies support the left and the homosexual agenda and the left never complains about that! Now we have a decent, christian based company that wants to support christian and family values and the left and gay organizations whine. IT’S THEIR COMPANY, THEY CAN SUPPORT WHOEVER THEY LIKE! I SAY EAT MO CHIKIN!
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:07pmIf Christians would stop being cowards and start being the salt and light of the earth then darkness will run and hide.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:08pmAnswer, yes. Which will up their business with theblaze posters. :)
Report Post »BubbaCoop
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:57pmnot today. It’s Sunday.
Report Post »I’m sure someone will try to sue them for that fact eventually.
AriBenTZion
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:04pmWell, I say ‘G-d bless Chick-fil-A’.
Where the hell are they in Florida?
Report Post »WhatsUp
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:18pmAmen and Hallelujah! We need more companies like Chick-fil-A! And would like to see more companies follow their lead by not being open on Sundays as well!
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:24pmI now eat at chic filet every day. These gay activist groups need to be stopped. All they are trying to do is force their way on others, and they follow the lib progressive motto, if you don’t share my opinion or the way I think, you are wrong and I will attack you.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:27pmCTHULHUWILLEATYOUFIRST
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:47am
TROLLTRAINER: “I think Chic-Fil-A sounds good for lunch today…”
“Today? Good luck, asshat. It’s Sunday!”
Hmmm…True enough peckerhead…Guess I will have to wait till tomorrow….
Report Post »CTHULHUWILLEATYOUFIRST
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:44pmTROLLTRAINER: “True enough peckerhead…Guess I will have to wait till tomorrow….”
“Peckerhead”? Wow. You are one cultured individual. Don’t forget to get an extra side of cole slaw.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:59pmYour mama says she doesn’t like coleslaw but I think we will order a few extra sandwiches. She will need the extra energy. ;-)
Oh, we will be going out in a few hours…If you decide to come up out of the basement please lock up on your way out.
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:01pmWATCHTHEOTHERHAND: “I hate to inform you of this but compared to most of the rest of the world and most people who lived in the past we are incredibly wealthy”
And what does that have to do with anything I said? Jesus told people over, and over, and over, to give what they had to the poor. Here you go again:
Matthew 6:19-21 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in and steal; for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon”. And what is “mammon”? Wealth.
In Mark 10: 17-25 a rich young ruler asks Jesus how one needs to act in order to obtain eternal life. And Jesus says “You know the commandments. Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, and Honor your father and mother.” The man then says he has done all these things, is there anything else? And Jesus answers: “You lack one thing: go and sell all you possess, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven.” Since the man owned lots of property, and obviously didn’t want to give it away, he walked away dejected. So Jesus turned to the disciples and said: “How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”! That’s pretty straight forward isn’t it? Absolutely no ambiguity in those words is there?
Luke 12:15 “avoid greed in all its forms.”
Luke 12:33 “Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys.”
Luke 14:33 “no one of you can be my disciple who does not give up all of his own possessions.”
Please give me ONE quote where Jesus spoke FAVORABLY toward the accumulation of wealth. Jesus taught ALTRUISM, not just benevolence. He didn’t say “Get rich and take care of yourself first, and then give your extra to others”, he said GIVE YOUR POSSESSIONS TO THE POOR…period!
Report Post »Out of all religions, Christianity is the biggest fraud. I’ve never met ANYONE who DOES what Jesus said to do…not one.
Do they give their possessions to the poor? Do they love their enemies? Do they love their neighbors as themselves? Do they turn the other cheek? Do they not resist evil. If someone steals their coat, do they give them the shirt off their back as well? If someone compels them to go a mile, do they go two? If they REALLY believe in Jesus, why don’t they do what he tells them to do?
S G Applebee
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:14pmGRANDMA: “S G APPLEBEE, why, then, are you on this site of ordinary everyday people who probably aren’t millionaires? Why aren’t you boycotting Hollywood, or professional athletes, George Soros, Obama, Alan Grayson, Barney Franks and boyfriend, etc. who ARE millionaires? You can quote scripture all day long but I would bet the legitimate bloggers on this site give far more of what they have to charity than you do. You are self-rightous and in no position to criticize us…etc.”
Report Post »I’m not a Christian, so why would I live by the teachings of Jesus? Give my possessions to the poor? Love my enemies? Turn the other cheek? Give to those who ask of me? Don’t resist evil?…etc…RIDICULOUS teachings.
I don’t like ANY of the people you mentioned, and the ones who call themselves Christians ARE HYPOCRITES, but that doesn’t negate what Ive said. Jesus told people to give their possessions away, he NEVER told people to accumulate wealth. If fact he said “How hard it will be for the rich to enter the kingdom of heaven…etc”. Compared to the rest of the world, most Americans ARE rich.
CTHULHUWILLEATYOUFIRST
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:57pmLOL!
TROLLTRAINER, you low class douche. What an imagination you have. You make me laugh.
Okay. Go ahead and get another little jibe in. I won’t respond, so you can go ahead and consider yourself some kind of “winner.”
Report Post »@the_WEDGE
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:00pml guess freedom of speech only means, when you agree with perverts.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:19pmJab? Naw, I made you laugh, that is cool. :-)
SG APPLEBEE,
You do not have the slightest understanding of Scripture. I do not envy you your position because the things you think you know will definitely prevent you from finding the truth. Christ’s teachings are so far beyond you that you are left saying ludicrous things like Jesus was a liberal or Jesus was a socialist…
Jesus taught about stewardship, as has already been explained to you. If you insist on an example try Matthew chapter 25. It is not our money, it is His and we are to use it for His glory. Your use of Scripture is dismal, it is all out of context. In your examples Jesus is mostly pointing out that the LOVE of money will keep people from Him.
The fact that you see no Christians following the teachings of Christ is probably because you fail to understand the teachings of Christ, though I will admit that most of us are hypocrites many times over too. But once again you fail to understand Christ’s teachings on that matter. We are not to worry about what others do, only ourselves. And yes…Many Christians are hypocrites on this matter too. So? Are you going to let what I do effect YOUR salvation? You are a fool! But then again, we all know that. Paul even told us so in 1 Corinthians 1:23. To you the gospel is foolish, you do not understand any of it. You read the words but you twist the meanings. I would pray that you someday find Christ but I seriously doubt you ever will. Richard Dawkins has a better chance, at least he is smart enough to understand that there are things he does not know.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:31pmTo AMERICANSOLDIER……I think you are missing the hypocrisy of what you stated. The ones who were being attacked was not the gay community by the Chik-fil-a corp. but the other way around. Freedom in this country does not mean freedom from religion but freedom of religion. Its in the founding documents. I think you are mistaking a defense for freedom and a religious belief about homosexuality. It is the “religious” group that you referred to that is under attack. Do you think if a Christian tried to get traction with hate speech laws against homosexual groups anyone would listen? Yet going the other way happens all the time in this country.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:37pmARIBENTZION, there is one in Brooksville FL. I suspect if you go to their homepage there a directory of locations near you.
Report Post »copper
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:42pmThis is the ONLY fast food chain in this area who actually treats you with respect when you go there. It is the most pleasant, uplifting atmosphere. We have witnessed first hand in ALL the OTHERS, disrespect and contempt from the employees and TERRIBLE service. It is just NOT worth time or money to visit them. We vote with our cash and Chick-Fil-A wins every time!
This is America and they have every RIGHT to support those whom they choose to. Talk about HATERS and THOSE WHO WANT TO ELIMINATE CHOICE! It’s ALWAYS the leftist MOB!
Report Post »uncleherbert
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:52pmI never have but I will start visiting Chic-fil-a often. I love their politics to.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:01pmS G APPLEBEE, I agree with the fact that compared to the rest of the world we are rich. But that doesn’t mean that you take it from people here and hand it over to be distributed elsewhere. More times than not, the people who need it the most never see it, or the by products of it. We need to have people in place to help people help themselves, to be able to manufacture products to sell or to sustain themselves. Look at Haiti and all the money thrown at that country to rebuild and help its citizens, and very little has been done and people are suffering. People need education, or a skill so they can get jobs and have self-respect – a hand up, not a hand out. And that goes for many right now in the US who find themselves in the same predicament as the masses overseas. I am sorry you are so bitter about the state of the union but moving away from capitalism is not the answer; we own a business and can’t hire or expand in this economy – people are walking away from their houses and financial obligations and we are stuck – you can‘t get money from people who don’t have it, and we feel their pain. Hollywood and sports teams are big business but you don’t hear anyone slamming them about the millions the make. Do you understand why? I don’t. Anyway, I agree with some of what you say, we are just approaching it from different perspectives – I imagine mine has lived alot longer than yours. Have a good one.
Report Post »Citizen
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:10pmto those talking about money and God, here is the thing. you err when you think wow i have a 100 dollars, because you dont have anyhting, its all Gods, not one dollar in your account is yours its all His. You are to be a steward of his belongings, if He gives you 2 talents you treat it and spend it like his 2 talents, if he gives you a billion you treat it and spend it like his billion.
God rewards work and effort but he also lets you decieve yourself into thinking your a good steward.
when you lay down at night, in your mind burn every belonging you have and know if thats how you woke up the next day it wouldnt effect anything because you still just go moment to moment doing the right thing. Thats what counts, not if you have a billion dollars or nothing.
cause Christ said that it is easier that a camel pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man go to heaven, and when they all wondered and ask then how can anyone get in ?
he said with God all things or possible.
God doesnt care if you have a bunch of temporary junk, he cares what you do with it, and he looks deep in you to know if you treasure that over doing his will.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:25pmchuck
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:59am
“They are a Christian based company, leave them alone! America was still a free country last time I checked…”
Doesn’t that statement imply that people are free to protest or boycott also?
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:31pmKENNYG933 for PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!
I loved your post!!
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:38pmTo S G APPLEBEE…..I am so glad you decided to reply to me. Now I see where you are coming from. From your first comment I thought you were a believer that misunderstood the Scriptures that you had listed and what they were intended to teach. If you are genuine and wanting some examples of Christians who gave everything here is a very short list to get you started: Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Corrie Tenboom, Jim Elliot, Nate and Rachel Saint just to name a very few. I was not implying that it was OK to hoard up money for ourselves at all. It is difficult for some people to understand this but Jesus taught many things by first addressing false assumptions in his listeners. Money and how we use it demonstrates much about our hearts. When we come to Him we must understand everything we have, our very lives in fact, belong to Him and we are to use them How He is directing us. We are also commanded to tithe in Scripture but if by your reasoning I give everything away, as you suggest Jesus taught, then what do I tithe with? Sounds like unless I am without food and have no home or possessions of any kind that you think I am a hypocrite. Even Jesus and his disciples kept a treasury of gold and silver, if your understanding is right then Jesus didn’t even follow his own instructions. Jesus said if you do not eat his flesh and drink his blood you couldn’t be his disciple. By your exegetical rules he was advocating cannibalism. Is this what he meant or was He teaching another principle? Joseph of Arimathea was a follower of Jesus and was wealthy and a man of standing in the Jewish community. What if, as a businessman I had a very large successful chain and made by today’s standards millions and gave over 90% to the poor? Would this be enough self denial for you or would this man have missed the spirit of what Jesus was teaching also? BTW the name of the Christian man who did this was……JC Penny. Jesus certainly did teach generosity and denying ourselves but as you are verbally aware men are by nature sinful and selfish that’s why He taught in such shocking statements about the “love” of money. Are Christians prohibited from using money? If having things is so bad why did Jesus tell us to give it to the poor? Shouldn’t He have taught us to burn it or bury it instead? By your reasoning He had us give to the poor and now since they have “stuff” they should in turn give it away. Jesus was teaching about using your resources not on ourselves but to demonstrate love for our fellow man who may be in a very difficult place….poverty. The Bible also says if a man does not work he shall not eat. That seems to through a monkey wrench into your reasoning as well. Perhaps someone who is poor is poor because they are lazy. To truly love that person is not to enable their laziness by giving them money but rather to expose their laziness so they can become self-supportive and Lord willing generous people themselves some day. No different then dealing with an addict, we don’t give them the means to continue their addiction but rather to be free from what enslaves them…….that is true love !!!
That’s why what Jesus did for us is so amazing !!! We don’t deserve it. Even as believer’s we are not perfect, far from it actually. That’s what makes His grace so amazing !! But if you continue to judge a perfect and holy God by looking to sinful fallen man to justify your rejection of Him and His teachings then you will miss the opportunity that He holds out…..eternal life.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 4:47pmto S G APPLEBEE….Remember if I give all I have to the poor and yet have not love then I gain nothing !!! It is Love for God and love for fellow man. For these are the 2 greatest commandments. Love the Lord your God……..and Love thy Neighbor as yourself. Of course we fail at these 2 things all the time. That’s Why Christ died. It is by faith that we are saved not works !!!!
Report Post »JustMel71
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:00pmWell you decide, but here is a list of companies that support gay rights. That reminds me, I have to stop by a Chick-fil-A and get an 8 piece chicken nugget with waffle fries tomorrow. =)
http://www.yourchristianspace.com/blog/view/id_18489/title_top-companies-that-support-gay-rights/
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:08pmAmen! Think I will have me some Chick-fil-a tomorrow!
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:01pmYes, sounds like a very good reason to support them to me.
Report Post »MareeClaire
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:13pmReagan was a tax raiser, an amnesty giver, a cut-and-runner from Lebanon when our troops were killed, & he negotiated with terrorists (Iran-Contra, arms for hostages). Why is he a hero to conservatives?
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:15pmS G, actually in the parable of the talents told by Jesus, God rewards those who invest wisely using their talents and make more on their investments, and punished those who did nothing with their talents and made no investments or received any gains.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:24pm@polishboy
Report Post »I LOVE Fellowship of Christian Athlets, great ministry. My son has attended one of the thier wrestling camps for the past several years, well worth the money, he gets top notch instruction in the sport and also how to be a great athlete and honor God, himself and his family.
I do wsh Chik fil a had not pulled their support in this case, it is time more stood up and said “too bad if you dont‘like where my business spends it’s profits, start your own and you can support whom ever you like”!
i work for a Christian organization and hope God keeps me there a good long time, it is the best job I have ever had, even though I could make much more money with my education and experience, I love my job, how I am treated and what my employer stands for, it is perfect!
Showtime
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:53pm@S G Applebee
Micah 6:8 “He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.”
@Grandmaof5 — I just wanted to point that out to him. I feel sure that you will say just what is appropriate.
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 7:11pmGayDem4Beck -
Theorically, I agree with you. However, it frequently seems that the issue is that people who are gay want to force their way into groups that may or may not be “gay-orientated”. There have a number of news stories about same sex couples who targeted businesses that were not comfortable working with gay clients.
The one that comes to mind have hired a photographer a number of years ago and when the photographer found out that it was a gay marriage, the person tried to direct the business to someone else who felt more comfortable with it. The couple sued and insisted that the only person who could photograph the event was the photographer who didn’t want to. Then on a TV interview one of the pair admitted to the reporter that the point was to put the photographer out of business, which is what they did. It was clearly punitative action against the business.
There was just a big dust up over two girls at a high school in the mid West who wanted to escort each other in a procession in their senior event. Okay, fine. Then the administration got involved and tried to change the procession rules so the girls wouldn’t be “harassed” and a pro-gay group sued. Had the school administration just say, “Okay, fine. Walk in with each other.” there would have been no problem. But there were concerns about harassment.
A student in a counseling program tried to direct a client who was gay to someone who she thought would be better able to give the client solid counsel. The client sued and the student has been expelled from her graduate program. Once again, punitative actions against someone who may have only been trying to direct the client to someone able to handle the situation with more expertise or ability.
And of course, my spouse and I were the target of a gay family member’s anger when we got married because the church we attend is Biblically orientated. After the weddding, the family member bitterly complained that he was the “only” gay person there (aside from the fact that he was in the wedding party) and how poorly he was treated because he was gay. We were floored because first of all the wedding was about our vows to each other, not about who was gay and who wasn’t. Secondly, our best man was gay, but we feel that‘s a personal thing and no one else’s business, so we didn’t go putting up signs indicating who was gay and who was straight. And finally, the rest of the members of the wedding party were there the ENTIRE time and no one, I repeat, no one said anything nasty to anyone that day. We called and checked with the other members of the wedding party, with the pastors, with other friends and family who were there afterwards. When we asked what was said or done, he couldn’t point out anything specific, but said that it was just a hostile atmosphere.
These actions, to me, are not toleration but aggressive, punitive activism.
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:14pmGONESURFING: “S G, actually in the parable of the talents told by Jesus, God rewards those who invest wisely using their talents and make more on their investments, and punished those who did nothing with their talents and made no investments or received any gains”.
Report Post »Sorry, but the parable was about being responsible for OTHER PEOPLES MONEY not YOUR OWN MONEY…so it does not apply.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:33pmTO S. G. I believe that it does refer to to exactly what you claim it does not….If we come to the Lord in faith the whole point is that nothing really belongs to us, it is all the Lord’s. In this regard, how we manage His money is exactly what Jesus would be talking about (p.s. not that it really matters but the parable is not limited to just money but other things as well including money, but that really does impact the discussion at all). Still wondering if you had any thoughts on my other post about your reasoning on all the scriptures you listed?? Should be the last 2 before this one. Thanks
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:51pm“GONESURFING: “S G, actually in the parable of the talents told by Jesus, God rewards those who invest wisely using their talents and make more on their investments, and punished those who did nothing with their talents and made no investments or received any gains”.
Sorry, but the parable was about being responsible for OTHER PEOPLES MONEY not YOUR OWN MONEY…so it does not apply.”
It is ALL God’s money, it very much applies. It is you who does not understand.
MareeClaire,
I think you got the wrong article there! Reagan was a great president. He made some mistakes, like trusting a democratic congress to keep its word if he raised taxes, but for the most part he was a very effective president loved by both sides. He has also been much maligned by liberals who only tell half truths and exaggerate some of the negative aspects of his presidency. But the truth is easy to find and the only people who believe the kind of crap you are trying to spread here are other libs. As far as I am concerned you are all brain-dead anyway and your thoughts do not much matter. You make a lot of noise but the pendulum always swings back mostly to the right.
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:57pmIf they would quit using MSG on their chicken, I would patronize their stores. The MSG and my hiatal hernia do not get along and I get violently sick if MSG is on any food I eat.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:01pmAAAhhhhhh moral relativism……It is in itself a contradictory belief. By claiming there is no universal truths it is claiming to be a universal truth. Anyone who truly believes in moral relativism could never condemn anyone else who does not and could never condemn anyone for anything. Not even harming others. For that would be to state a universal truth that others are precious and unique and deserve respect and consideration in this life. The idea that all value systems are equal is again a fallacy rooted in another universal truth. If there is not one Universal truth, transcendent through time, cultures and civilizations then there is no reality at all !!! It is philosophically inescapable. Pretty sure there is truth in the physical world (gravity, entropy, thermodynamics etc) So this in and of itself is a strong proof that there is other truths if you are being a scientific observer……Yet we want to throw away any moral truth because it offends the way we want to live our lives. How many people would throw away the law of gravity and fly like an Eagle if it were possible, yet try jumping from the roof of your house (doesn’t matter if you believe in the truth of gravity or not). Oh if we could escape the truth of gravity !! In the same way you cannot escape the consequences of violating moral truth even if you deny its existence. This is the fallacy of morally relativistic worldviews.
Report Post »CultureWarriors
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:32pmMe too. I’m going to eat there every day this week,
Report Post »THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:50pmTo S G APPLEBEE;
Report Post »Learn from TROLLTRAINER, he does know his scripture, not only that but im sure he reads it in
Spirit. One can only understand the scripture in Spirit. From what you are saying sounds like you are just reading scripture mentally, not spiritually.
You want to know the mind of Christ? Get saved and read His words spiritually.
THIS GENERATION
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:08pmTo WATCHTHEOTHERHAND;
Report Post »Your summation in that last paragraph speaks for itself. Bless you brother, keep testifying.
‘That’s why what Jesus did for us is so amazing !!! We don’t deserve it. Even as believer’s we are not perfect, far from it actually. That’s what makes His grace so amazing !! But if you continue to judge a perfect and holy God by looking to sinful fallen man to justify your rejection of Him and His teachings then you will miss the opportunity that He holds out…..eternal life.’
Sparky101
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:38pmMy wife and I went out for dinner last night. We drove right past the Chili’s in our town and over to the Chick-fil-A in the next town. They support our local blood drive, Chili’s does not. They support strong marriages, Chili’s does not. They have an excellent chicken sandwich. Chili’s does not.
The meal was excellent, very filling, the help was helpful and kind. The atmosphere was “family.” The lighting let you see if anything was under your table (there wasn’t). Next year for Christmas, we will give out Chick-fil-A gift cards, not Chili’s cards. And if I ever get tired of their chicken sandwich, well they do have other items on their menu. I’ve never heard a discouraging or foul word there. Even the patrons are friendly and polite there. Hmmmmm. Guess we will go where our patronage is appreciated, not just our money.
Report Post »Snackman
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 12:14amI eat at Chick-fil-A at least once a week. Delicious food! It’s also a great company with American values. My son worked for them over 20 years ago when he was in high school. GREAT people. I don’t know if they still do it, but back then they would give you a 1,000 dollar scholarship if you worked for them at least 2 years and maintained at least a B average. I also admire them for closing on Sunday….a day in which they could make a ton of money…..IF that was all they cared about.
Report Post »SgtWark
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 11:56amSo true brother. So many companies are afraid of Christian beliefs. But even ChickFilA is closed on sundays for God’s Sabbath.
I don’t eat fast food much, but you know what? I’m going to start buying one item at ChickFilA once a week just so I can help support a company like this.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 11:57amChristians if you are now awake then you might want to wake up! Good and evil is real. Its not us against them anymore its good against evil. No who you are and pray for the truth and good to defeat evil!
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 12:17pmWe support Chick-a-fil and always will, as long as they remain followers of Christ. Find someone who DOES NOT TAKE A STAND AGAINST SIN and you will find sin and evil.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 4:35pmChik- fil- a is my new favorite fast food restaurant. Don‘t worry CFA we won’t boycott you. Thats what crybaby losers do. We are in full support of your stance on spirituality.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 4:36pmI bet if they made a donation to the muslim brotherhood the gay movement would not be up in arms.
Report Post »No1YaKnow
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 10:19pmAs a private business, they can champion whatever they wish–period. As long as they do not discriminate in hiring, and as long as they serve everyone equally, no issue. I’m personally tired of groups trying to force feed “tolerance” of their agendas. If you don’t agree with a groups stance–they come after you and FORCE you to tolerate them. Boycott, don’t go, say you disagree, but GET OVER IT. I think I need a classic chicken sandwich now. (just a three minute drive)
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Posted on February 7, 2011 at 10:37pmWell, I read to the end of this article and I’m not encouraged at all. I am downright DISAPPOINTED in Dan Cathy and the current board at Chick-Fil-A. How dare they CAVE to these allegations? They face one round of criticism and they immediately turn on their heritage to pull their support from groups they *used to* believe in? Well, tomorrow they’ll probably start serving liquor. It’s a slow fade, Dan Cathy. A slow fade – and you sir, have just kick started the process. Shame on you.
I love Chick-Fil-A. I love their food, I love(d) their mission, and I always dreamed my teens would someday work there. But now? I’m very disappointed. Oh – and I plan to attend the “Art of Marriage” conference at my own church, and from all the promotional materials I’ve seen, I have no idea how it can be classified as “anti-gay“ unless we are going to now define ALL things HETERO as ”anti-gay.” THAT is insanity.
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