Is Libya Exaggerating NATO Attack on Gadhafi & Family?
- Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:23am by
Scott Baker
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The strike that killed the dictator’s youngest son came nowhere close to killing Gaddafi, says Fadel Lamen’s Libyan sources , who also cast doubt on whether grandchildren were killed. Plus, Clive Irving on what the killing reveals about NATO’s on-the-ground intelligence—and its view of ending the war in Libya.
Forgive me for being cynical, but I’ve seen this act before. Yes, the NATO strike on the Gaddafi family—both the death of Saif al-Arab Gaddafi (not to be confused with Saif al-Islam, as the Libyan spokesman himself initially was) and the reported near-hit on the dictator himself—is important for the message sent and the chaos sown.
But the details on the Gaddafi hit don’t add up, and they make me—and a half dozen sources I talked with last night, including several in Libya—skeptical about how close we came to hitting the dictator. Or that three grandchildren were actually killed, as Gaddafi’s embattled government claims.
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Comments (80)
SilentReader
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 5:32pmWe need to get our armed forces out of Libya. Any NATO war will be a disaster for America and our real Western Civilization allies.
To use Cass Sunstein‘s wife’s Responsibility to Protect doctrine to go into Libya is so assinine as to be contemptible. And without ANY consultation with Congress at all! None whatsoever! And then to hand it over to NATO when our troops are in danger?! And have our troops fight alongside the al Qaeda thugs! Unbelievable!
Obama is showing his complete dictatorial ways and he should be impeached immediately.
There was no direct threat to America from Libya. And as much as I abhor the actions of Libya’s Gaddafi and ALL the other equally as brutal dictators in the Middle East we had no business interfering in Libya. This war is a suicidal war. And, in fact, our intervention has probably prolonged it and killed more people in the end!
This just shows the utter incompetency of Barack Hussein Obama.
As far as the report that Gaddafi’s son and grandchildren were killed. If this isn’t accurate then you have no business reporting it to begin with. It should be confirmed before being reported on. I don‘t believe a word these master’s of deceit and deception say.
America is becoming sick of these wars in the Middle East where our troops are dying for what? They just revert back to their Islamic Sharia-driven governments and have no respect for human life at all.
Look at what’s happening in Egypt. An even more brutal and dictatorial government is taking over by the brutal Muslim Brotherhood whose leader, Yusuf al Qaradawi, would do anything to kill a Jew from his wheelchair, and now they’re planning to attack Israel. The day that Mubarak left and they were celebrating in the Tahrir Square 200 thugs were raping an American journalist and yelling Jew Jew! They continue with their brutal Sharia, stoning women and treating them like children and killing indiscriminately, and then they blame us for their utter chaos, and nothing changes there under the totalitarian and brutal rule of this theo-political ideology that they call Islam.
When are we going to wake up? As long as we‘re fighting their battles for them they’re never going to change their ways. They always have us to blame for their utter mayhem and complete societal depravation and collapse.
Bring all our troops home and let them self-implode. Bring them home now!
Report Post »morristhewise
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 4:01pmThe lack of sympathy displayed by Westerners over the deaths of Gadhafi`s son and grandchildren expose great truths. Enemies of the West can be uprooted and destroyed like weeds without remorse.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 4:36pm1. Apparently the news of their deaths is greatly exaggerated!
Report Post »2. You’re right–about the weeds! But, let’s not play down the significantly charitable role the U.S. has played in World affairs, AND the amount of crap we have endured BEFORE backlash!
chips1
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:30pmSave more money by putting a border fence around Washington to keep the terriorists out of America.
Report Post »POIPNE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:59pmFirst, move the U.N. to Washington, THEN build the fence.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 4:33pmWhat a Capital idea! Capitol idea, too! Kind of like a Containment Shell around a nuclear reactor, but in this case to keep all terrorists WITHIN Washington, thus protecting the rest of the country?
Report Post »twistin
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:24pmIf you fight, FIGHT LIKE GENGHIZ KHAN! Otherwise, don’t bother.
Report Post »roadpounder
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:01pmWhy is the U.N evacuating its Idiots tell them to stay in Tripoli
Report Post »numbers
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:34pmI heard this report on Sunday and immediately sensed something bogus. Notice that “children” only were allegedly killed. At first, the news was repeated that Gadhafi’s “youngest” son was killed but not until later was his adult age mentioned. Also, there was no wailing and gnashing of teeth, of course, there will be much later.
Report Post »nomercy63
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:32pmQadaffy is a disgusting human being but I think that what we are doing is wrong and outside the law and the constitution we fell into a trap in the mid east with all these countries and unless we get out now the trap will get tighter and tighter do you really think that these people are not planning and plotting their moves against us and the world
Report Post »mygunsweetness
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:25pmLet me see he blew up a airplane killed 193 Americans,then blew up a bar killed 2 Americans, so I think we should go after him and his sons to give the family’s justice,I’ll bet if one of your kids or moms or dads were there you would want justice.how easy we forget the Americans that die for no reasons and no justice for the family’s,So yea I want him dead he’s not going to come out of his country so we can but him on trial, so yea stick a missile in his hidden spots,if he loves his family he wouldn’t go around them.
Report Post »ED4237
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:25pmI don’t care if we kill every one in his family as long as we get out. This a war for no reason that we should not be in at all. All over the mideast we are now helping terrorist do the job for them handing them Egypt now soon Libya and then soon after that we will be buying oil from them the terrorist. The worldwide progressive movement and we are front in center involved leading it now. We are as stupid as can be with this admin in charge, any person with any sense would have us at home watching not helping that is bad for us. The terrorist will now be recruiting people saying look the USA only helps the muslim countries with oil in them and not ours because we don’t have any. This is all going to backfire on us in a bad way.
Report Post »bailey08
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:13pmJust remember this is NOT a war. It will be over in days not weeks.
Report Post »So says the Nobel PC Prize winner with blood on his hands.
When will the left call Obama a war criminal?
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:27pmWe drop bombs on them and they shoot guns at us.
It’s a fracking war.
Report Post »POIPNE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 3:22pmAn old marine once told me that “in a war, you break things and kill people” so, I guess this meets the criteria.
As for the “war criminal” thing, he’s already explained that we’re simply protecting innocent civilians. That’s good enough for the left. Personally, I’m more concerned with the innocent civilians on our southern border but, maybe I’m just being selfish (sarcasm intended).
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:58amOf course not, NATO is illegally trying to assassinate Qaddafi, the same way they worked to illegally assassinate Saddam.
Nobody is buying the narrative. They went in, tried to blow Saddam up like Qaddafi, captured Saddam, then turned him over to be executed by AL QAEDA.
Nothing is changing here, except they have to keep the impropriety of working with Al Qaeda even more obfuscated and try harder to blow up Qaddafi with a bomb instead of sending in ground troops like they did with Saddam, because we aren’t supposed to be over there in the first place, like we werne’t supposed to be in IRaq in the first place.
The “responsibility to protect garbage” NOBODY EVER BELIEVED.
What the hell, the Supreme Court ruled not even our POLICE officers have a responsibility to protect us!
Where do they fabricate this “Color of Law” garbage?
They didn’t have a responsibility to protect in Darfur…
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:15pm“…Nobody is buying the narrative. …”
Actually, many are. The MSM is silent. Dems are all for it. So are all the trolls who infest The Blaze.
So are the RINOs and the so-called Conservatives in Congress.
I like Palin, but she’s saying nothing about this, either.
Too many, I’m afraid, have no problem here, Mace.
Something is very wrong with this picture.
Report Post »mygunsweetness
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:38pmWell aren’t you the great military mind sin mace,you cut off the head of the snake if you can,let me remind you of 195 Americans he has killed,so yea I would stay on him and his sons until they were dead,sorry about the grand kids but if he loved them he wouldn’t go anywhere around them.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:47pmBut the mainstream media has no credibility at all, and when listening to some of the comments from the trolls on here, even if they are operatives, they don’t even believe the garbage regurgitating from their own mouth.
The corrupt in congress isn’t buying it, it’s in their interest to carry the water because they are lobbied (bought and paid off).
It’s warmonger central at the House of Representatives, even the anti-war left.
It looks like its all up to the citizenry to oust these corrupt officials. I don’t think this website accurately represents the overall disgust with foreign policy that the majority of Americans feel.
Their polls can’t be trusted at all. They’re misrepresenting the public to sway real public opinion.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:56pmI don’t support Qaddafi, he’s a dictator, but his people love him, what do they care what I think of him…
The globalist bankers hate him, because Libya has their own central bank and don’t let the globalists screw around with their money…
I would like to see him go too, but I would like to see the people who perpetrated 9-11 (Our Own Government officials) go too.
They have as little credibility as Qaddafi.
They ARE Qaddafi. Dictators.
We’re living in an executive ordered, fiat currencied, corrupt congress and senate misrepresented, supreme court authority usurped DICTATORSHIP.
We don’t take orders from the UN!
We the people want our troops home 9 years ago.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:22pm@Sinista MACE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:47pm
I totally agree, except with one detail: the Conservative people posting here ARE cheesed beyond all imagination. Much language is being couched, carefully posted. But there’s a fury out there, which the Left created and thinks is the fault of everyone but them. It’s the classic delusional “Who? Me?” defense.
The MSM is worthless, as we agree. But the problem I see, Mace, is that too many believe in it anyway.
Politicians? Well, we know that–ideology not a factor here. I’m a Constitutionalist, not a Pub. As far as the ‘conservatives’ in Congress go, they’re doing nothing for the country , either.
In sum, I demand statesmen at along last, not politicians.
Report Post »OntheRocks
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 7:57pmYou are correct, dems and repubs are very close. GOP wants one of there chosen to run in 2012. That is how McCain got nominated. Rove is out to destroy anyone who is not in the system. They think only establishment repubs that are due, or it is there time need apply. :>)
Report Post »Bret
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:38amIdiots… Reading the Daily Beast and watching Al Jazerra and you don’t know you are on the wrong side??? Maybe they are right about us…
Report Post »LukeAppling
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:32amGhaddafy is a muslim. MUslims lie to infidels [and each other] regularly. Ghaddafy has lied previously. I believe I will await confirmation.
Report Post »wildwood
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:00amObama let let Hillary , Powers, and Rice get us into this mess, Things will not get any better until we get all the progressives, marxist, communists out of the whitehouse!!!!! This WORLD ORDER is working for America and we must fight it!!!!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:59amNo matter exaggerations or what-not, the United States has no cause to be bombing Libya. We were not attacked.
Report Post »REVENANT
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:48amThe only way this world will be halfway civilized at all, is if our enemies are terrified of our power, and our friends are terrified of living without the protection of our power.
Report Post »Gran_Torino_of_5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:40amYou are correct, Sir!
Report Post »POIPNE
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 3:04pmThe history of the post WWII world would tend to support your theory! Never thought I’d call the cold war “the good ol’ days” but………
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:45amI see where the press is calling the death of Kadaffy’s boy an “assasination”…I call it good shooting!
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:42amOK. Look at the bigger Picture. The United Nations is playing NATO! To begin with we shouldn’t be involved in all these countries. We’re Using drones in Pakistan and Libya, Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it’s costing us millions of dollars to do so. What about the Arab League? Well, Isn‘t interesting that Iran and Turkey aren’t members. Now Syria, and you have senators Lieberman, Graham,and McCain telling the President he must do something about Assad. Fatah and Hamas are putting their differences aside in Gaza. When the dust settles, and you know it will. they will be coming after big satan and then little satas. This is the biggest deception of all time, and yhe Obama administration and the state department are in on it.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:49amExcellent analysis, and accurate.
Report Post »DellnMontana
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:18amWatching Graham on the Sunday talk shows was pitiful. He is stuck supporting this thing and looking for ways to justify it. When asked about the targeted attacks on of a foreign leader, he said because I say he is no longer the leader it is OK. How about targeting civilian homes, are we not supposed to protect civilians? We should never have gone into this thing because Half & Half needed to up his ratings.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:34am@DellnMontana
“Half&Half”?
I love it!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:40amYeah–let‘s just torture the guy by killing his kids and grandchildren with a war he didn’t start with us, and our Congress does not yet approve.
Way to go, you libs; way to do things, Mr. half-white ‘president’.
Pffft!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:13amAnd, while I’m at it, screw you Beltway Pubs and other RINOs for not stopping this.
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:36amNot unlike when Reagan sent in the f-111′s and Gaddafi claimed his granddaughter was killed. Most likely a ploy to get the international sympathy he feels he deserves. Isolate Libya and let them fight it out amongst themselves. We aren’t liked there and no matter how it all turns out in the end WE will be the bad guys!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:42amWe ARE the bad guys this time. Reagan had reason. Half-white Obow does not.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:35amLies and deception, from a North African country run for 40 years by a dictator? Wow, never saw that coming (big shock face).
Report Post »Joelswork
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:33amI thought we were not targeting him, just leveling out the playing field, or the UN taking over the country, or finding russian aliens…………..what the heck are we doing there? Anyone? Does Gaddafi have Obamas real birth certificate or something, he keeps refering to him as his african brother….hello, anyone? Good thing the US isn’t part of this anymore….wait…we are? even after we pulled out? Makes sense in DC i guess
Report Post »Bret
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:44amLibya(Gadaffi) uses the State Theory of Money and was going to us it to pull Africa out of poverty. The world order is based on the Private Debt Theory of money. We borrow our money from central banks that eat us up from the inside and they create their money to benefit the people of Libya. We have no gold and they have 112 tons of it. The solution that will save America is being bombed out of existence in Libya. Do you know the “rebels” instantly set up a western bank and are selling oil to Yemen???
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:32ampolitical spin…to feed the world opinions…..
Report Post »Gran_Torino_of_5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:31amThe Lybians have lied toadvance themselves, and had the Bush Administration wrapped around their serpentine fingers for 6 years.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:38amYeah
That’s the ticket
George Did It. Any other observations??
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:45amBush is out of office over two years and still running. The way your thinking (ahem!) you might as well blame Nixon, too, while you’re at it.
You jackwagon!
This is ALL on your precious half-white Obow now, including Iraq and Afghanistan. And Gitmo, too.
Liberals are SOOOOOOOOOO comical!
Pffft!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:50amAgreed with you there.
The fact also is that when their were two superpowers – east and west, the dictators of many countries managed to learn the game of playing them off on one another to achieve their own ends; and for as long as Quaddafi has held onto power, it means he learned the game very well.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:03am@Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Strange as it may sound, the Cold War forced some kind of stability around the world. After the Soviets imploded, the world went nuts. And we are incapable of dealing with it all, especially–today–with the half-white amateur-in-chief in the White House.
Report Post »DellnMontana
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:30amThe 70,000 to 120,000 civilians we were suppose to save, were did that number come from??? The Iranian Rebels had a more effective PR machine and the Half and Half leader fell for it. I agree, get out now.
Report Post »Gran_Torino_of_5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:39amI get what Torino was a telling us- that Kehdaffy was dishonest from the get go, and deserve to die.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:47am@Gran_Torino_of_5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:39am
I get what Torino was a telling us- that Kehdaffy was dishonest from the get go, and deserve to die.
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By our concept of liberty and human dignity, you get no debate from me.
But Gaddhafi (funny how the spelling of his name is so uncertain) did not attack us. He’s no innocent, to be sure. But he did nothing to warrant an attack by the United States.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:31pmWhat a country lies to advance itself? DUH! They all do it. We do it. Don’t be naive.
The US doesn’t have a dog in this fight. Get out now. Bring the boys (and girls) back home.
Report Post »Love_Small_Dogs
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:37pmMuammar al-Gaddafi admitted that Libyan agents under his command executed the airliner explosion in the air above Lockerbie Scotland that killed 270 innocents (including a hundred American college students). Some 17 Lockerbie residents died on the ground after sections of the crippled Boeing 747 fell to earth and exploded. There is evidence that many of the passengers lived long enough to feel the impact of the fuselage
Report Post »Act of War. Gaddafi was found Guilty of conspiracy, and fined.
His fines were paid in 2006 by the major oil companies.
TheGreyPiper
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 1:49pmLet’s try and ignore the trolls, huh? In the case of really nasty posts, just report them. They’re like park pigeons, feeding them only encourages and makes them bolder. And they still circle back and shht on you.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:32pm@TheGreyPiper
Many of us have already agreed to do that. Glad to have you with us!
Two trolls so far have wigged out over that, since libs find some kind of personal validation by arguing. Not responding to them directly drives them buggy! We, who have agreed, will respond only to fellow Conservatives for our mutual benefit; trolls are frozen out of any conversation.
Many are with you, Grey. Again, glad to have you among us!
Report Post »Bjorn_Frei
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:27amYes they have a pattern of doing that
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:31amThe war in Libya is unConstitutional. Congress did not approve.
We need to get out of Libya, NOW. And Obama needs to be held accountable for his treasons.
Report Post »Gran_Torino_of_5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:37amIf we pulled out of the Libyan theater, who would need hellfire missile replacements? Have you thought of that?
Report Post »Dale
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:39amI have absolutely no proof, but I find it interesting that 1) the US is a NATO member, 2) the US recently announced that we added two predator drones in Libya, and 3) a NATO strike took out one son, and perhaps others.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:40amDoctor……I agree….and..we need to be focusing on Mexico…..and protecting our borders NOW!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:44amIs it likely the Libyan govt is exaggerating and misreporting? Yes. The one fact is, since we did not have people there to confirm or deny the truth of the matter (from any point of view) it is up in the air. And the othe fact is too, the US needs to stay the heck out of it – period!!!
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:47amIs the Lybian Theatre playing ‘Atlas Shrugged”??
Report Post »Alvin691
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:54amAnd how many events creates a pattern?
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:57amOf course NATO is exaggerating; it’s called propaganda and the allies (are they really?) have stolen a page from the dark side on how to use it effectively, on an increasingly unwitting public.
As usual, we’ll have to wake at least a week before we get half the truth here. I’m not sure why people even bother reading 1st edition news feeds – it’s an oxymoron.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:20amDid you guys see that picture of Obama on Drudge? He is yucking it up all the while killing innocent women and kids in Libya. What a moron. Libya is none of our damn business.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:21amOf course, anything is possible or an excuse to promote more violence. I would be most happy if three grandchildren weren’t killed and that the parent was smart enough to keep them well away from their grandfather, the target. I’m not sure evil for evil is a good exchange.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 11:32am@NancyBee,
“I agree….and..we need to be focusing on Mexico…..and protecting our borders NOW!”
Until we get Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, and Obama out of office, that’s not going to happen. These three are using our open southern border to conspire against the American people to take away our guns. And they are deliberately providing the means for mass murders to create the crisis to do so.
See here.
Sipsey Street Irregulars
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
A Journalist‘s Guide to ’Project Gunwalker’-Part Three
http :// www . examiner . com/gun-rights-in-national/a-journalist-s-guide-to-project-gunwalker-part-three
Oath Keeping At The ATF
Report Post »http :// oathkeepers . org/oath/2011/03/30/oath-keeping-at-the-atf/
warrior21
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:04pmHe’s probably right! The whole story is likely overblown. However, all the points he makes in his column regarding the story can be applied to the stories of Qaddafi troops killing civilians. When are all the videos of the dead civilians. We accept the stories from the rebels without question. We get in to a war -third one- on the advice of people we don’t know. We help our so-called European allies secure their oil supply while BO destroy ours. What the hell is wrong with us?
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:06pmDOCTOR….thanks for the website…I have been out of the loop for a few days….no electricity, no phone, no computer….trying to catch up………..and today…the rain keeps coming……flooding everywhere..but thank God our electricity is working!
Report Post »Love_Small_Dogs
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 12:17pmThe son and 3 grand “children” were uniform-wearing military men who were killed as they stood watch in a command post. The son was in his 40′s, his loyal children were adults serving in the Libyan army.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 2:32pmNANCYBEE, glad you have your electric back on and hope you didn’t have too much damage where you are. Wish we could redirect some of your rain to FL/TX, but alas…stay safe.
Report Post »DellnMontana
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 5:52pmGraham said Gaddafi was not the leader of Libya. How many countries does it take to vote out another country’s leader?? Could a couple of third world nations vote out the Obummer?? How many people would have to protest in front of the White House for Obummer to step down?? Would another country be able to target bomb the White House??? We are definitely heading in the wrong direction. ;=)
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 1, 2011 at 10:16pmA Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
The war in Libya is unConstitutional. Congress did not approve.
Congress didn’t approve of the war in Iraq or Afghanistan either in the sense of a formal declaration of war (neighter Vietnam or Korea either). In any case, state your position. Should we leave Iraq and Afghanistan?
Doctor, are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan “Constitutional?” Must we get out of those conflicts too. Get off the fence, manup and give us your opinion. Do you just hate Obama, or are you a bleeding hear liberal pacifist?
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on May 2, 2011 at 12:59pmjzs,
“Congress didn’t approve of the war in Iraq or Afghanistan either in the sense of a formal declaration of war (neighter Vietnam or Korea either). In any case, state your position. Should we leave Iraq and Afghanistan?
“Doctor, are the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan “Constitutional?” Must we get out of those conflicts too. Get off the fence, manup and give us your opinion. Do you just hate Obama, or are you a bleeding hear liberal pacifist?”
You say “Get off the fence”, “man up and give us your opinion”, and “are you a bleeding heart liberal pacifist”.
I don’t remember saying anything that ever justified these accusations. So, show me the quotes that suggest to you that these apply to me regarding these wars.
Either that, or admit to the forum that your accusations are contrived to elicit a reactionary response.
After that, I will respond to your post.
The reason I’m asking you to do this is because the Left is quite fond of poisoning the well, and I like to expose when it’s being done.
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