Report: Mitt Romney Holds Private Meeting With Rand Paul
- Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:24pm by
Mytheos Holt
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For many conservatives, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul is a unique specimen. A literal scion of one of the most controversial Republican political figures in recent memory, Paul has managed to form a cordial relationship with mainstream conservatives quite a bit less problematic than the active hostility courted by his doggedly contrarian father, and in the process, has become one of the more influential Tea Party figures in Washington. His name is already floated as a potential future Presidential prospect, so much so that Paul has had to address the question at campaign events:
And despite (or perhaps because of) Paul’s evasiveness on the question of running, open speculation reigns that the elder Paul may be playing nice with the GOP establishment in order to pave the way for precisely that prospect.
That speculation is not going to be tamped down anytime soon. In fact, it may be that even the presumptive GOP Presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, sees a Presidential run in the younger Paul’s cards, if this report from National Review Online is any guide:
Sources close to Senator Rand Paul tell National Review Online that Paul and Mitt Romney had a private meeting on Wednesday. Details of the topics discussed are hazy, but Paul — the son of Texas congressman (and presidential candidate) Ron Paul — reportedly found the meeting productive.
The one-on-one conversation in the nation’s capital lasted 30 minutes. Sources say the tone was cordial but it wasn’t meant to be an exchange of pleasantries. The Kentucky Republican focused his questions on policy.[...]
For now, there’s no word from Paul World beyond that; no word on whether Romney sought an endorsement or brokered a deal regarding the Tampa convention. But it’s clear Romney is intent on wooing Senator Paul, who has been touted by his father’s aides as a potential presidential candidate down the road.
If anything suggests that Senator Paul is coming into his own as a genuine GOP power player, this story does. Romney, who has ostentatiously made a point of not running as an explicitly Tea Party-linked candidate, has thus far only shown this level of deference to people who he suspects he will need down the line.
And why would Romney need Paul? ABC News breaks it down:
Tea Party members have routinely expressed their reluctance to vote for Romney. In exit polls from the Republican primary, people who said they supported the Tea Party remained split among him, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Romney performed significantly better with Republican voters who said they weren’t strong backers of the Tea Party.
An ABC News/Washington Post poll from April reported that 41 percent of Americans said they supported the Tea Party.[...]
Jackie Bodnar, a spokeswoman for the Tea Party group Freedom Works, described what she called a “reverse coattails” strategy that she hopes will work in November: Tea Partiers enthusiastically voting for local candidates in November, and, while they’re in the polling booth, pulling the lever for Romney as well.
“I‘m definitely happy that he’s talking with limited government conservatives like Rand Paul,” Bodnar said. “It’s a victory in and of itself that the candidates are speaking the Tea Party language.”
Niether the Romney campaign nor Paul’s office has released any details of the Wednesday meeting, and that’s probably best for Romney. Democrats have routinely tried to tie him to the Republican Party’s far right, especially to those who refuse to believe that President Obama was born in the United States.
This is quite an impressive case that Romney needs Paul – especially given the remaining fear that the elder Paul’s delegates might try to stage a coup at the Republican National Convention. An endorsement from one of the Paul family would effectively put the kibosh on that strategy, as it would send a message that the very people who are supposed to benefit from the coup don’t want it to take place. It would also cement Senator Paul’s credentials with establishment conservatives, who have made no secret of their belief that Paul supporters lack party loyalty.
So would a Paul endorsement help Romney keep his base in line? It’s too early to say, especially since we don’t know what that endorsement might cost. Could a “Vice President Rand Paul” be in the cards?




















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MrObvious
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:30pmSP as VP would give GOP the novelty advantage, and still bring a conservative voice. She’s been through the full on DNC/Media gauntlet. That‘s an advantage Rand doesn’t have yet. Also, we need all the tea party senators we can get; and, he’s already there. Pushing to make him the new Senate Majority Leader would be ideal – way more power than VP.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:58pmRand vs Mitch?…..I’d give Rand a shot to be sure….
Report Post »Marrabella
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:11amConsider also, Mitt can’t win without the Latino vote. He is currently polling horribly with that group. Marco Rubio would fill that void nicely.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:25amI just hope Rand gave him an economics lesson and a copy of a better budget plan while he had his attention.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:51pmSigh, more dog and pony show from our political elite. Democrat or Republican, it doesn’t matter. They argue and get emotions going during the campaign; but ultimately do the same thing the other would do once in office, they just use different words to explain what they did.
BUSH = OBAMA There’s no difference. Compassionate Conservative = Hope and Change There’s no difference. As long as the Feds get more power and can spend $500 Billion in the process, they’ll vote for it and hold back a veto.
Report Post »LuciDMari
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:37pmWait a minute. Let’s not lose sight of our goal here. Our goal is to get Cong. Ron Paul elected as the next POTUS and NOT flip-flop-big-government-status quo-RINO Romney! Rand Paul can make his bid down the road a few years from now. I don’t know what kind of a deal these two could have possibly made, but if Rand Paul is hindering his father’s chances in any way, Ron Paul supporters WILL NEVER FORGET IT! Ron Paul 2012 and beyond. He is America’s ONLY chance! May God grant us the wisdom of this great Statesman in this perilous time and allow us this victory.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:03pmLucidMari, Do not worry, rule 38 and 42 USC § 1971 – Voting rights (b) makes it clear that delegates are not bound by any state law or party rule. Paul has a real chance of getting the nomination on the first round. Read my posts to Rebublicorp below.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:15pmVRW, It is the GOP that has mad a mockery of the election process. Paul supporters have been following the rules and the GOP has been breaking their own rules, shameful. There has been election fraud where votes were mysteriously lost in states like Iowa and numbers being reported wrong in Maine, vote flipping in states with electronic voting etc….
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDd21pEmP4g
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1
Here is the GOP establishment turning their back on the Constitution all for Romney: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7iu4TQhszs&feature=youtu.be
Do not give me all you horse pucky. The founders wanted a system where an underdog could be elected over a rich person who would buy the election if they could get enough grassroots to work hard for them. This is what we are doing. We are abiding by rule and law.
Inlightofthings
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:31pmLUCID…
Report Post »Really…that’s your goal “HERE”…to get Dr. Paul elected? You can’t be that silly…
bobbiejean
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:15pm@MrObvious I agree. Rand Paul should stay in Congress. He would be a lot more effective there than
Report Post »in the position of VP. And as you say, we need all the Tea Party people we can get in Congress.
SELECT
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:21pmnot sure Marco is going to be eligible.
Report Post »“‘Natural Born Citizen’ is a term of natural law — it specifies that a child must be born in the USA to two parents who were U.S. citizens at birth.” Marco’s parents were naturalized after coming from Cuba.
SELECT
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:22pm@kevintampa – business will not be as usual this time. whom ever will have no choice but start fixing the debt.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:59pmWest Coast: I believe Rule 38 means only a certain amount are unbound.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 9:53pmWith 4% reporting, Mitt Romney has 71% of the vote (344,384 votes) and Ron Paul has captured 10% (48,054 votes) Ron Bin Paul cant even win his home state……….So Funny!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:42pm@Republicorp
Well, congratulations. Our party just nominated a guy who is more fiscally LIBERAL than BILL CLINTON to be president.
If you can be happy about that then you are clearly a different kind of “conservative” than I am.
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:47pmHey Pubic shut the hell up.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:14amInlightofthings, The facts are the facts. Our government is based around the law. Federal law trumps state law (fact). Rule 38 of the RNC Primary bylaws says that no candidate can be bound regarding the unit rule (fact). The states have gotten around the unit rule by unbinding 3 delegates, usually super delegates that are establishment Republicans, a loop hole, (fact). In 2008, a delegate from Utah that was bound by state law to vote for McCain, used rule 38 to be unbound in order to vote for …Romney (fact). The RNC legal council wrote a letter stating that the RNC does not recognize state law on binding candidates and that candidates can vote for whomever they choose (fact). A federal law; 42 USC § 1971 – Voting rights, (b) states:
Report Post »Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate. (fact).
cont…
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:16amAll this seems clear to me that according to rule 38, 42 USC § 1971 – Voting rights, (b), and the RNC legal council (for the benefit of Romney), clearly show a precedent, RNC rule and Federal law that states nobody, even under the law, can force anyone to vote for anyone but who they so choose. Somebody tell me different and why.
This race is not over til somebody gets the 1144 needed at the national convention, period.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 1:21amI wish they had an edit option on the Blaze. above should read: …delegates can vote for whomever they choose…
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 30, 2012 at 4:23pmWCPAT:
I’ll check my sources, but understood no more than 4 could be unbound. I know it varies state to state so that would only apply to 13 states so far…as far as I know.
Thx for the rundown.
Report Post »Jefferson
Posted on May 31, 2012 at 2:00pm@BOBBIEJEAN
” I agree. Rand Paul should stay in Congress. He would be a lot more effective there than
in the position of VP. ”
Rand Paul is a SENATOR. They are different from the Congress-peoples. Maybe a lesson from Sesame Street called “which one of these things doesn’t look like the other thing ” might be in order…
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOJ_s89IUxY
SailAway
Posted on June 4, 2012 at 6:55pmSarah Palin will not be the VP pick. Her value is in other areas. I doubt she will ever hold national elective office. Rand Paul is too valuable where he is, in the Senate holding those clowns accountable up on the Hill. He is too junior to be made head of the Senate, but he would be a good Majority Whip, provided the new Majority Leader is both a true conservative and a true leader. Rand would not suffer a fool in that position for very long. Someone like Inhofe or DeMint as Majority Leader with Rand Paul as Majority Whip would be a good team.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:29pmI, as a Constituion loving “conservative” “Libertarian” “Right winger” or what ever other label applied to my type, would LOVE to see Rand Paul in the number 2 spot. However, I would also hate to see him leave his Senator post. If there is a deal for a Constitutionalist to replace Rand (and there are millions of us) that would be SWEET!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:22pmIf this were to happen, I would need at least two of the following:
1. Only send troops where Congress authorizes
Report Post »2. Talk about the problems of the FED and take a vote on Ron Paul’s Fed transparency bill
3. Freeze government spending (in real dollars)
4. Flat tax or fair tax
encinom
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:24pmRand Paul has always been a number 2, a big, stinking, insane number 2.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:01pmENCINOMONICNE has always been a number 0, a big, stinking, insane number 0.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:04pmMy opinion from the beginning is Romney will NOT win this election, unless he gets the Ron Paul and/or libertarian vote. He currently has neither.
Speaking from a Ron Paul County Coordinator perspective, my vote is going to Ron Paul, the Constitutional Party candidate or whomever Ron Paul endorses. I trust Ron Pauls opinion and inside knowledge of the situation, as such my vote is attached to his will. He has been consistent since day 1, so I trust him. While having meetings and phone banks with fellow Paul-bots, it was clear to me that most will NOT vote “anyone but Obama” – they will vote their conscience. Even if Obama gets elected and ends this project called The United States of America, they will not vote for the “lesser of 2 evils.”
Romney has a lot of rear-end kissing to do or convincing to do if he is to get the libertarian vote.
That is all.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:27pmWe know you guys don’t understand our dedication to the ideas of Ron Paul. Please allow us to show you how you have been duped..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcSM4dNMCPk
Here is validation..this one might take awhile..but I promise you that you won’t have to go that far into it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28tE0fKpISM
copatriots
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:33pmDear Mitt,
Yes, please! And Allen West as Secretary of Defense. Sheriff Joe for Homeland Security. And have Ron Paul in charge of shutting down the Federal Reserve.
Thank you!
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:52pm@PATRICK HENRY II
I agree that Rand would be better suit us in the Senate.
1) We cannot endure another 4 years of Obama.
2) If Romney gets the nomination, conservatives should unite behind him.
3) Vote in Tea Party Representatives and Senators to keep him honest.
If we vote in Tea Party Congressmen, and re-elect Obama, he will just use executive orders to bypass them – he already thinks they are irrelevant.
It may not be the ideal situation, but a little step in the right direction is better than a huge step in the wrong direction.
Then Rand can run in 2016.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:00pmIsn’t Rand Paul one of those guys that wants to repeals Civil Rights laws? Good luck getting Romney elected with him as VP.
Report Post »PresidentDowngrade
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:07pmEncicome gets published? Me NO?
Report Post »Copper Catfish
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:14pmThere is no one to replace him in the Senate. He has been consistently the most conservative Senator, and we certainly need him there! In fact, he should replace Mitch McConnell. Better yet, Harry Reid!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:27pm@jzs
“Isn’t Rand Paul one of those guys that wants to repeals Civil Rights laws? Good luck getting Romney elected with him as VP.”
You mean the ones that are racist and outdated? I am sure. Not that Rand will be Romney’s VP but who wouldnt support Romney because of that? Blacks? Yeah I am sure the 3% that dont vote for Obama because he is black would be a huge set back.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:28pmI cannot imagine either Paul working well with Romney, they are polar opposites. This just shows how nervous the Romney camp is getting. With Federal law showing that nobody can bind a delegate to vote for a certain candidate, not of their choice, the nomination is still wide open. It is too early to tell who will win and I believe Paul has a great chance of winning in Tampa.
Report Post »I know that the GOP will have something up their sleeve, they have been having a hard tome following their own rules so far, but Paul supporters are preparing for any shenanigans the GOP might do.
I know, all of you hear that it is always the Paul supporters that are causing the problems at the caucuses and conventions, not true. It is just the opposite.
colt1860
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:38pm@JZS No.
Rand Paul said, “I have clearly stated in prior interviews that I abhor racial discrimination and would have worked to end segregation. Even though this matter was settled when I was 2, and no serious people are seeking to revisit it except to score cheap political points, I unequivocally state that I will not support any efforts to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964… As I have said in previous statements, sections of the Civil Rights Act were debated on Constitutional grounds when the legislation was passed. Those issues have been settled by federal courts in the intervening years. My opponent’s statement on MSNBC Wednesday that I favor repeal of the Civil Rights Act was irresponsible and knowingly false. I hope he will correct the record and retract his claims… These attacks prove one thing for certain: the liberal establishment is desperate to keep leaders like me out of office, and we are sure to hear more wild, dishonest smears during this campaign.”
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:41am@JZS. You are worried about Rand Paul reversing civilrights laws. Look what Obama has done for civil rights. He has set this country back 60 years or more. Obama has divided everybody in this great nation. Rich/poor * gay/straight * religious/non believers * blacks/whites/Hispanic/Asian * even driven our allies away and catered to countries that hate us. The only thing Obama has united is people on government handouts and people that want to destroy this nation and our freedom.
Report Post »JZS why don’t you go play in traffic.
wdittgasn
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:06amYes encinom in the area of stinking he sure can’t be number 1, that position OF STINKING belongs to YOU….. You are a DIP SH_T !!
Report Post »Kevin The Elder
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:27amMy guess is that many Libertarians are struggling with what they will do in the November election. If they vote with their heart, their only choice would be Gary Johnson, and they would know that it would be just a protest vote. However, most are so afraid of Obama winning a second term, they will feel that they have no other choice but to vote Romney. There is no telling what percent of the vote Johnson may get, but no matter how small, it could tilt the final outcome. I suspect that if Rand Paul would throw his support to Romney, his reasons for doing so could sway many of those who are struggling; that is, if he has gotten enough concessions from the future nominee.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:32amAgreed it could be the smartest thing Romney could do.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:35amencicommie and jzshizzat still here? getting kind of weal arent you encicommie, potty humor? really?
Report Post »Marrabella
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:02amAshes to ashes……. You are a true looney tune. Same old trap…. When things get bad “the Jews did it”. No where does Ron Paul blame the Jews or the tired old’ racist Zionist conspiracy theories.”We need clear minds at this time. people like you are what is wrong with the world.
Report Post »Red Meat
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:47am@My opinion from the beginning is Romney will NOT win this election, unless he gets the Libertarian
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:04pm
Ron Paul and/or libertarian vote. He currently has neither.
…Paul-bots, it was clear to me that most will NOT vote “anyone but Obama” – they will vote their conscience. Even if Obama gets elected and ends this project called The United States of America, they will not vote for the “lesser of 2 evils.”…
Brilliant!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:57amWhy did the Bots stop money bombing Ron Bin Paul? The poor guy is broke. Or was he just playing Romney’s wing-man all along?
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:18amRepublicorp, You are so clueless, I do not even know what to tell you. Try doing a little research!
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:28amCoPatriots…
would be nice…but Rand needs to be the next Senate Majority Leader and Paul Ryan needs to be the next Speaker of the House…then the ship will be turned REGARDLESS of who the President is. And if Obambi tries to use Executive Orders to bypass Congress, they can slash and burn the funding and MAYBE start eliminating agencies and positions. then hold him in Contempt of Congress and file motions in the SCOTUS against his actions…and if he still doesn’t obey.. IMPEACHMENT!!! for violation of his Oath of Office…
Allen West for VP
Rand for Senate Majority
Ryan for Speaker
Ron Paul for FED Chair
Herman Cain for Sec of Treas…or vice versa with Ron Paul…
Bolton UN Amb before we pull out completely
Palin for Sec of Int and Energy…collapse them into one
Sheriff Joe for ICE Head.. DHS should be disbanded…
Rudy for AG
Newt for Sec of State
eliminate Commerce, Transportation, Labor, HHS, HUD, FHA, FEMA, FDA, EPA
reformed entitlements to be fully privatized by 2030
and BINGO was his NAMEO!!! you once again have the GREATEST NATION in the World and History and we become the “shining city on a hill” that Reagan and Scriptures speak of….
all this nonsense about the USA not being in the Revelation means we are destroyed.. BULLCR@P!! We are that SHINING CITY of God’s People…save not having Jerusalem as our capital…
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:29am@republicorp
He just had one last week. he asked for $600K and raised $850K.
Report Post »Given that we are doing it with (average) $25 donations, I think that pretty good.
VRW Conspirator
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:11pm@Ashes
It isn‘t that the people on this board or anywhere don’t UNDERSTAND the positions of Ron Paul, some of us just don’t think he is RIGHT on his positions. The problem with most Ron Paul supports, here and elsewhere, is the EXTREMIST nature of their support for the positions of Ron Paul as if they were handed down on tablets from God on Mt. Sinai.
I perfectly understand his domestic and foreign policies positions and how he thinks they are justified in his interpretation of the Constitution. But that is the problem, they are based on his interpretation!
Some points:
A – “foreign entanglements” …while many Founders talked about staying out of them, the Constitution gives Congress the power to ratify and the President to propose treaties with other Nations. These treaties might include stationing of our military on foreign soil or providing a protective shield through use of our military. Now this doesn’t go to whether it is a good idea or not, but many Ron Paul supporters I hear and read see treaties as unconstitutional and EVIL by nature yet the Constitution CLEARLY states treaties are legal.
B – Income Taxes – the Constitution might not have directly identified income/wage taxes as viable when created BUT the Constitution has been AMENDED to allow such taxes. Again, this doesn’t go to whether they are a good idea or not but many Ron Paul supporters cry unconstitutional and evil and yet again they are wrong.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:02pm3MONKEYSMOMMA If the whole military loves him so much at $ 5.00 each that would be 10 million or so…….
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:19pmWEST COAST PATRIOT
Report Post »“Republicorp, You are so clueless” (you have been sold out by your Texas rebel) He dropped out the moment it was only Romney. By the way. Do you think your guy will win his home state tonight? If he doesn’t how in the hell would become president?
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:49pmRepublicorp, The beauty contests do not matter anymore. It is how many delegates you have on the floor of the convention. You see, rule 38 was used by a delegate in Utah in the 2008 Republican primary. He was bound to vote for McCain on the first round, but he used the rule to unbind himself in order to vote for ….Romney on the first round. The legal council for the RNC said in a letter on this, that the RNC did not recognize a states binding of delegates and they are free to vote for whoever they want. They did this as they know about a little known Federal law: 42 USC § 1971 – Voting rights
Report Post »Section (b) states: “Intimidation, threats, or coercion
No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or to vote as he may choose, or of causing such other person to vote for, or not to vote for, any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, or Member of the House of Representatives, Delegates or Commissioners from the Territories or possessions, at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate.”
Federal law trumps state law and any party rules. This means that all delegates are free to vote for anyone on the first round without fear of retalliation. Go Ron Paul
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:58pmRepublicorp, I wanted to add one more thing, quit just listening to Fox News, they are either incompetent at reporting or are just flat out lying for the establishment. Paul is very much in this race all the way to Tampa, he is just not spending anymore money in the remaining 11 contests as it will do him no good with all the election fraud being perpetrated by the RNC. If you need examples, I will be glad to give them. Paul has told his supporters, who are more loyal and dedicated to Paul than Romney’s ever will, to continue to get delegate spots, and that is what we are doing. I guarantee you that out of the 591 delegates for Romney at this point (the real delegate numbers) that 1/3 are Paul supporters. Start doing real research so you do not make yourself look silly each and everytime you post.
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:03pm@WestCoast…
sorry, but you are being a fool…I know you are from the West Coast…so was I until I relocated to TX last August….and the state has only been going downhill since I left….
back to business…you are being a fool and so are any other Ron Paul supporters that are going to try this garbage at the convention…
Report Post »Honestly…what do you think will happen if you hijack (yes, just like a terrorist) the convention and have delegates sent by their States, which can RECALL them at any time if they violate their swore duty by the way, NOT vote for the person that won the popular vote in that State? This tactic is no better than a terrorist hijacking an airplane and forcing those pilots to do what they want or die. You are making a mockery of the democratic process. You are ignoring the WILL of the People…something I thought a libertarian like Ron Paul would die to defend. You are destroying any chance of Obama being booted to the curb because you will split the party, get no more than 10% of the popular vote in the general, and just like Ross Perot, DOOM the country to 4 years of HELL-BENT Socialism!!
Honestly…any delegate that hides being a MISINTERPRETED law (which Ron Paul supporters frequently do) and votes this way at the convention is no better that a Terrorist at worst and a TRAITOR at best…
“Of the People, By the People, and For the People” – these words have meaning.. OBEY the Will of the VOTERS in each STATE!!
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:35pmVRW, Sorry, my reply to you ended up on the posts above this one. I did want to add that it should show all you Romney supporters one thing. If Romney is the best choice, why does he have such a hard time getting his supporters to the local and state conventions? I does not seem as though he is organized well enough to handle the job a POTUS. If he cannot get his supporters excited enough to do the groundwork needed, he will have a hard time getting his administration organized enough to do the groundwork for him in Washington.
Report Post »Another point: Romney cannot win against Obama no matter what the media says. He cannot get the grassroots to look at him, many will just go for Johnson. He cannot get the youth as they are fervent for Paul, they will stay home or vote for Johnson. He cannot get the disenfranchised Dem vote, they will do liike many of you, and hold their nose. I cannot figure out why this is so hard for all you to understand. Paul can bring all those factions to the table. If you truly want Obama out and will vote for anyone but Obama, whay not start doing it for the only one that will be able to do it by a landslide?
3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:52pm@Republicorp
Yep, when you don‘t know what what you’re blabbling about and you’ve just been proved wrong…change the subject quick!
FYI: Personally, I don’t expect our poor underpaid, overworked troops to do a d**n thing but stay alive and come home, no matter who they are voting for….so F* U, buddy.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 9:57pmWEST COAST PATRIOT taking bets ……..I am right at the end of the day
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:10pm3MONKEYSMOMMA yeah..your guy cant rally a win in his home state. So enjoy your lost little girl
Report Post »SailAway
Posted on June 4, 2012 at 7:03pmProblem is the current Governor of Kentucky is a democrat hack whose own Lt. Governor could not suffer any longer. I believe he would appoint a leftist to Rand’s vacated seat and we would have to wait for 4 years to oust the clown. We already need to oust the ineffective Minority Leader, McConnell in two more years. If Romney picks a Congressman or Senator, it needs to be from a state with a Republican Governor and preferably a conservative who will appoint a conservative as a replacement. I do not want to lose ground in the Senate because of the VP pick, it is too critical we get a majority in the Senate along with a new President. We will have a hard enough time getting a conservative in as Majority Leader without diluting the number of conservatives by one more.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:27pmRon Paul voters are never going to vote for anybody but Ron Paul. We’re not talking about rational people here. To them Ron Paul is a god and the only living being in the universe who can save the world.
If Romney chose Rand Paul, it could bring some conservative ideas to the ticket.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:46pmWillie you just dont get it. Ron Paul isnt god. His ideas arent even his. They are the ideas of our founding fathers. People like you have kept voting for the lesser of two evils and have put us in this situation. Well my generation is tired of it and we will change it. The GOP establishment is either going to get behind us, or we will leave it behind on the scrapheap of old parties.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:54pmYour man Romney, does not get to chose. Rand is not and will not accept VP. I know it’s all about the party with you, but we are fighting for our Country, the Constitution, Freedom, Liberty and the Republic. Not a party or a man.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:55pm@QP
Report Post »Libertarian conservatives would need some actual assurances and proof that he will govern in a constitutional way. Just nominating a token libertarian is not good enough – although in Mitt Romney‘s world I’m sure he is thinking he is good-to-go
GoodStuff
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:03pm@Mutiny
“They are the ideas of our founding fathers.”
Our Founding Fathers were anti-semitic and wanted prostitutes on every street corner?? Who knew?
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:21pmI’d throw all my energy into the Romney campaign if he chose Rand Paul. Dr. Paul offers hope for a return to a Constitutional Republic.. One of the few sound serious voices out there.. A selection of Dr. Paul would give me a sparkle of hope for this nation; otherwise I’m not sure I can get behind Romney period.
Report Post »As much as I despise and outright hate Obama I do not know if I’ll be able to vote for Mitt Romney without Rand Paul.. I may consider the VA Gov on the ticket.. Other than that I don’t of many out there..
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:42pmIt‘s not that he’s god, it’s just that Romney is no better than Obama. The contrast between the Paul and Romney are so great, that anyone who supports Ron Paul’s ideals could never hold their nose for Romney. End of story.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:44pm@Goodstuff
By your definition yes they were.
Can you please link the audio or video clips of Ron Paul saying he wants those things, please?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:53pmNot to mention Romney and the GOP keep doing things that REALLY irritate us. This changing of the rules when they don’t get the result they like is enough for me never to support either. Example… Mass GOP moves to invalidate caucus ballots. This after they threw away provisional ballots. How can anyone trust people who do this? You all should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting such vile corruption.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/27/mass-gop-move-invalidate-caucus-ballots/AA7spH6RjTT4Jz2F7JceMN/story.html
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:00pmqpwillie
“In a world of universal deceit telling the truth is a radical idea”
Ron Paul is no god. He just tells the truth about certain things. The real truth. I see maybe one other politican who is like that. Thats why us liberty lovers like him. A hater like you wouldnt understand. You can disagree with politics. But to hate the guy so much. Makes you a low life in my book.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:48pmDo you guys know who Romney is? He’s the Federal Reserves pick if not Obama..and no one really thinks he can beat Obama but what does it matter?..they are both owned by the Federal Reserve..Goldman Sachs is Romney’s biggest contributor with the other banking cartels on down the line. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
Report Post »Ron Paul is the wild card..the game changer..and the GOP mass makes a move to invalidate caucus
ballots..so you see..they do pick their Presidents for us..like we have any say at all in the matter.
colt1860
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:44pmqpwillie know how to run his mouth… and that’s about it. Don’t expect any intellectual conversation with him.
Romney, Obama the Same?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38
Libertarian
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:48pmWillie,
It is about a philosophy, not the man. The man just happens to be the one we should elect because he has stayed true to the philosophical principles of the constitution. The basis of philosophy is consistency, hence why I will vote for Ron Paul.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:57pmin 2008, people who work for Goldman Sachs, gave over $1 Million to Obama, and were his top donor. In 2012, Mitt Romney’s top donor, is, you guessed it, people who work for Goldman Sachs, at $575,000 and counting.
Report Post »Obama 2012:
In the $3,290,000 raised so far from the top 20 companies whose employees so far have made individual donations to Obama:
$560,000, or 17%, has come from technology firms;
$794,000, or 24%, has come from Big Academia;
$1,008,000, or 31%, has come from big lobbying firms.
Romney 2012:
In the $4,723,000 raised so far from the top 20 companies whose employees so far have made individual donations to Romney:
Fully $3,760,000 of that, or 80%…has come from Wall Street firms.
Of those top 20 firms whose employees have donated so far $4.72 Million, to Romney, those same firms received, in the 2008 bailouts stolen from the American taxpayer (which of course both Romney and Obama supported), an estimated $335 Billion dollars in bailout money!
FIRST number: Top donors to Romney 2012.
SECOND number: How much bailout money those companies received in 2008:
Goldman Sachs $574 K / $13 Billion
Bank of America $399 K / $15 Billion
JP Morgan Chase $394 K / $25 Billion
Morgan Stanley $374 K / $107 Billion
Credit Suisse $318 K / $500 Million
There are many more than this but I am out of room.
Citigroup $302 K $25 Billion
Inlightofthings
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:53amSOYBOMB315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:55pm
@QP
Libertarian conservatives would need some actual assurances and proof that he will govern in a constitutional way.
SOY: How do the Libertarian Liberals feel?
Report Post »Clive
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:23pmno one wants to be his VP, they are all saying “thanks but no thanks”…. because they know that obama is going to pound romney like a drum, and they don’t want to be associated with being a loser.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:36pmQPWILLIE and RECOVERINGNEOCON are both afraid of a Rand VP.
Report Post »Well the enemy is afraid of it. There you go.
recoveringneocon
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:05pmPatrick Henry II
Report Post »What are you talking about? willie and me? Did you bump your head?
kevymac
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:25pmRand is a rock star!
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:30pmsecond that.
Report Post »Glock31
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:41pm3rd
Report Post »smokey888x2
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:14pmFourth!
Report Post »dj109
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:43pmFifth!
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:16amRand is the next up and coming NGOP star for liberty. We need to concentrate more on the congressional candidates. We know that either Paul or Romney (I’m leaning Paul, as if you guys did not know that already) but without Congressmen and Senators that take their oath to defend and protect the Constitution seriously, we will only stumble and fall off the cliff. Research all candidates records. Pick only ones who hold a strict standard to the Constitution.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:35amLove Rand!
He may well turn out to be the GOP’s “Frodo Baggins”.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:24pmLast Thursday’s news.
What happened theblaze editors? Did you run out of ufo stories?
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:43pmmarybethelizabeth, Take your Midol and lie down. You’ll feel better tomorrow.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:08pmIts a holiday give them a day off for petes sake! They are entitled just like us!
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:28pmThursday wasn’t a holiday.
What a fourth rate operation theblaze is.
Maybe one of the folding tables they have to use because Mr. Beck is too cheap to buy desks collapsed.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:57am@marybethelizabeth. THANK YOU for making it clear.
Report Post »NONE SHOULD KNOW FORTH RATE BETTER THAN YOURSELF.
moussiagilda
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:21pmI ain’t surprised. They’re a couple of weak-kneed, pansy-ass…do I ever have to be serious again?
No. But the rapture, the real rapture, is still there. Zen Buddhism sucks. Be real and feel.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:28pmSmoke dope much ??
Report Post »moussiagilda
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:59pmNope. Never. But somehow I’m on the Bob Marley side in this endearing amusing non-chaos, while my baby writhes in hell. Okay, he’s not in hell. He’s saved.
Report Post »SHASTADIANE1
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:19pmI love Rand Paul, and for Paulbots, promoting Rand is exactly what is in Ron’s play book I think? I’d vote that ticket.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:36pmYes, I agree. This is a marathon we are in. It will not all come this election either. We need to build and educate freedom. Rand Paul in #2 spot would be great. Romney will turn this economy around and get re-elected and Rand will be elected in 2020 after we have loaded the courts and congress and states with Freedom loving Constitutionalists. Then we see a short term victory and we never forget that we almost lost freedom. It is very realistic.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:28pmSorry, there is nothing freedom loving about Rand Paul. Anyone that would want the government in a woman’s womb is not freedom loving.
Report Post »dj109
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:50pm“Sorry, there is nothing freedom loving about Rand Paul. Anyone that would want the government in a woman’s womb is not freedom loving.”
So let me get this straight. These so called “women” whine and moan about the government in their womb, legislating morality. Yet in the same breath are all about having them all up in their womb when it comes to providing government funded abortions and free birth control. Hypocrites, Encinom and every one of the hens cackling about it…
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:48pm@encinom You’re a freaking walking, talking contradiction, and joke. These same pro-abortion women want the Government to fund their abortions, and to provide them with contraception pills. Any women willing to end the life of a child in the womb is not freedom loving, and is evil.
Report Post »SaintzOfAk
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:21amI know when ECINOM has been around, cuz it always smells like fresh $h!t in the room. Hey EciDOOSH!, isn’t your mommy tired of you hanging out in her basement?…i think it’s time for her to flush the toilet.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:10pmLOL!!! You liberal so called Conservatives wish. When Hell freezes over. Just say 4 more years.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:30pmRomney was smart to not insult Ron Paul repeatedly through the process like Santorum did.
He showed some respect and although it is hard to see how a Romney/Rand Paul ticket resolves their polar opposite positions on most issues, it would be a coup for Romney to convince Rand Paul to join him.
Romney needs credibility with the tea party and the libertarians and he gains an “experienced” govt change agent.
Report Post »Walter2012
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:09pmI think if Mitt Romney picks Rand Paul as his VP, he knows Rand Paul wants a significant say in the administration. That‘s the only way it’s going to work. As a Ron Paul supporter that’s the only way I will see it!!! It‘s time for Romney to committ to our nations’s future. Rand stand strong you have a lot of support everywhere in this country.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:07pmI like both Rand and Ron Paul and like the old man said ‘we’re the issuer of the worlds reserve currency and we’re exporting our dollars,when they stop taking those dollars the ballgame is over’.
The dollar is a fiat currency backed by nothing and ALL currencies fail it’s just a matter of time.
Report Post »Silver and gold are money with all due respect to helicopter Ben and his funny money.
AUsername
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:58pmRomney will have to drastically change his positions with a Rand Paul VP stop Paul voters from either not showing up to vote or going to Obama. Paul is the key to beating Obama and taking away crucial bases of voters from him.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:12pmWhat kind of Paul supporter would go to Obama? They’re polar opposites.
Report Post »AUsername
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:17pmthe liberal democrat faction which makes up a big part.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:37pmLiberal Democrats want more government not less. Explain to me what I’m missing.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:52pm@auser
So what you are saying is liberal democrats want to:
1. Cut spending.
2. Balance the budget.
3. Phase out social welfare programs.
4. End the unconstitutional wars.
5. Phase out the FED.
6. Restore our freedoms that have been snatched from us in the name of security.
7. Pro Life.
8. Get us out of the UN.
9. End the assault on the 2nd Amendment.
Either you dont know what a liberal or a democrat is or you are talking out of your ass.
Report Post »AUsername
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:52pmnot all of them want big goverment, many of them value civil liberties, and want a non intervention foreign policy and although not personally socially liberal, he would allow them to be, which attracts many of them and the youth, which is a crucial base to take away from Obama to beat him.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:03pmThere are some democrats who would vote for Paul because he doesnt want to police the world. I wouldnt call them true Paul supporters because, like you said, they are willing to vote for big government
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:28amThe biggest issue is that Paul can bring Democrats, and the youth, into the mix to vote against Obama. That is crucial to defeating Obama, I know as I live in a liberal state. I hear them talking and they are saying they will not vote for Romney, although many say if Paul gets the nomination, they will vote for him.
Report Post »I am a conservative Republican, and I talk to these people daily. There are those, and more than I would expect, loyal Obama supporters. Do not think he does not have a base, just because it has shrunk.
Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:55pmLiberal McCain asked much more conservative Palin to help pick up the conservative vote who was less than excited about the McCain nomination. The McCain and the GOP get their back doors pushed in by having a weak candidate.
Liberal Romney I am sure is trying to do the same. This will not be a battle of VPs. Biden is a moron and both sides know it. You have to nominate a guy different from Obama who can attack him and no agree with him. Romney has so few things he can attack Obama on its sad. You people have almost given the election to Obama. The blame will be on you!!! Dont blame the people who vote third party for your very weak choice in candidates.
We need a miracle in Tampa. Or its four more years of Obama.
Report Post »ME
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:40pmI agree with your point but I really don’t see a repeat of 2008 it seems much more like 2004 with Mitt playing the roll of Kerry. I really think this man was born of privilege and privilege has played a roll in everything he has done not to take anything away from him, but I really think his steal has truly never been tested. That said he is 100+++% better then Obama but I don’t see a win with lukewarm as the flavor, of the few in the middle most will stick with what they know then chance anything that is why they ride the middle to begin with. When you play to the lukewarm you play to lose, when you seek the leaders and strong the weak in the middle will follow.
Report Post »tamalezebra
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:49pmGood choice. Ron Paul supporters can give the lefties a run for their money – nasty for nasty!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:16pmI think you‘ll find that there aren’t many Paul supporters that would go for it. I may be wrong, but from what I’ve seen and heard, we’re pretty set this time around. I can’t speak for all Paul supporters, but I’m wanting to purge the progressive trash out of the GOP, not team up with it.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:05pmIf you want the Paul supporters to do the republican’s dirty work – you will have to have a Ron or Rand as the nominee. Otherwise, I say….meh
Report Post »dj109
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 11:02pmRand would be crazy to accept a VP position. He’s far better off staying in the senate. Romney and Soetoro are one and the same, so it really doesn’t matter who wins. The GOP needs to concentrate on winning back the senate majority and keeping the house. At least that way, no matter which liberal wins, they won’t get any of their hair brained progressive agenda pushed through.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:39amI do not believe that Ran would accept. I believe Paul still has an incredible chance in Tampa. Do not discount all the Paul supporters loyalty and committment. I believe that Paul will have more supporters as delegates than Romney, by a good sized number, and I believe we will witness rule 38 used in conjunction with 42 USC § 1971 – Voting rights (b). These basically say that delegates cannot be bound. It is Federal law and RNC by-laws. It was used in ‘08 by a delegate that was bound for McCain, and the delegate used it to unbind himself and the legal council for the RNC said in a letter that delegates were not bound and could vote their conscience. The delegate voted for Romney.
Report Post »It is going to be the most interesting national convention we have ever seen. I will have it on my DVR.
Wolfpack01
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:49pmI think it would a stroke of genius for Mitt to have Rand Paul as his VP. Cheney who was the greatest VP in history was blunt, outspoken and unabashedly conservative. Much like Rand Paul. The next administration will have an unimaginable mess to correct with possibly some indictments for purgery.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:22pmThis is a joke, right?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:24pm@WOLFPACK01
Wow – not many Paul supporters would agree with your Cheney comparison.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:47pmjustangry
Report Post »After all the months of battling about Ron Paul and these knuckleheads still don’t get it. You just have to shake your head and laugh. What a waste of time. Freedom and Liberty is a thing of the past, its all about big government and handouts now. They think we are all bunch of Liberals. You just got to love it.
PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:49pmNobody cares about Rand Paul. He will be a sell out just like the rest of the establishment if he joins with Romney. Romney is a coward, a lie, a flip flopper, same as obama. Nobody cares about CROOKS like you!
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:25pmYour comment shows your lack of knowledge about Rand….Oh my bad…It shows your stupidity.
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:38pm@ politicianscrooks
Report Post »If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:48amPolitician, Do not be so quick to discount Rand just because Romney is getting very nervous and is trying to sway his nemisis’ son. I can just imagine the conversation:
Mitt: Rand, your dad is kicking my butt in this primary and I am the establishments chosen one. You are a sensible guy, talk to your dad and tell him to come around to our way of thinking.
Rand: My dad is right on most everything he talks about and I stand with him. If you had come around to his way of thinking, years ago, you would probably be doing better.
Mitt: Look, I have the power with my Wallstreet backers and nothing is going to stop me.
Ran: I think you better look at the situation, the people are waking up.
Mitt: You can help put them back to sleep by helping me. I will give you any position you want in my administration. Tell me what you want.
Ran: I want a President who will take a torch to our government and make it so small it is not recognizable.
Mitt: I just cannot do that, the banksters would string me up after I have promised them I would do their beckoning. Look, I will make you VP.
Ran: Sorry, I just cannot be a VP in a cronicapitalistic government. See you in Tampa Mitt.
That is what I might expect from their conversation.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:07pmRon and Ran are alike in many ways. http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Rand_Paul.htm
Report Post »cruzinbill
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:45pmRand Paul should be in line for vice president.
Report Post »An Arizonan
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:53pmOr Secretary of the Treasury. ROMNEY-RUBIO 2012. The ticket to win America back!
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:01pm@an
Please give us a few things the Romney/Rubio team would give us. I mean they look very similar policy wise as Obama/Biden.
1. Spending – Romney’s budget doesnt cut current spending levels. SAME!
Report Post »2. Freedoms – The Patriot Act and NDAA is supported by all four of them. SAME!
3. Wars – All four are for us staying in the UN and the United States continuing to the the policemen of the world.
republitarian
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:48pmHe should be in line for Senate Majority Leader. You listenin’ Mitch?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 10:12pmMUTINY:
You can’t be suggesting that 2012 POTUS alone would alter course on these. Unless NDAA was an executive order..He!!, even POTUS Obama scored zero votes in the senate…we don’t even HAVE a budget and no rocket scientist is needed to explain why…
1. Spending – Romney’s budget doesnt cut current spending levels. SAME!
Report Post »2. Freedoms – The Patriot Act and NDAA is supported by all four of them. SAME!
3. Wars – All four are for us staying in the UN and the United States continuing to the the policemen of the world.
Mutiny
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:02am@inlight
Well yes the president has the power to pull the troops home. He has the power to use executive orders to end crap like the NDAA and Patriot act. If a president with actually balls gets elected, the party will fall inline because they worry about their jobs and if he is the man they will not want to go against the party. So yes I believe the president does have this type power.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:55amMUTINY:
Report Post »Clearly the best bet is to continue the momentum from 2010 and elect conservatives into Congress and Senate. A POTUS usurping Congress on things like NDAA will serve no purpose and make that POTUS look like a dictator / ruler. There is that 50% +/- that liked it remember. I think a lot of people are missing what is going on in the GOP. Not that it is perfect but a lot more voices are being heard and TEA is having an impact and continues to operate; don’t care what anyone says. I’ve never connected TEA with the Libertarians as “same-as” but that would concern me if true.
justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:44pmI’m not holding my breath. I’d actually lose a little respect for Rand if he partnered up with Romney. He‘ll be fine on his own and I don’t think he’s that selfish. As for the “coup” remark. Come on. It’s not a coup if the Paul campaign is playing by the rules. This is just another bogus smear.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:56pmI dont think Rand will tie himself to a guy who‘s policies are so close to Obama’s.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:17pmYeah, we’ve heard it before too. Nice to know that the establishment is actually starting to worry about RP’s delegate strategy. Sign of weakness?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:08pmIts interesting to think about but I agree – I dont think Rand would stoop to the Romney level. I think he is just trying to become a bigger player in the Republican party.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:41pmWe need Sen. Paul and more Tea Party minded members like him in the Senate. Thanks to the disastrous President Obama The right will take back the majority (strong) in the Senate in the fall.
I think Romney should take Condi Rice as VP, because then Romney would get a third of the black vote, three fourths of the the Male Vote and two thirds of the Women vote. The only demographic the big spending, liberal, pathetic leftist President will get is the Dead Person and Illegal Alien Voter Vote.
Romney wins among Men, Women with any sense.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:23pmWhile I agree we need Rand Paul in the Senate…
Rand Paul as VP would energize the libertarian base.
Rand Paul would bring out voters.
Those voters would “pull-through” Tea Party GOP Senators
So if we lose one awesome senator, gain the VP, pull though at least one good Tea Party Senator and set up a Rand Paul presidency in the future, I’m not seeing a down side.
This assumes that Rand is as tough in his position with Romney as he has been as a senator.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:12pmCondi? you gotta be kidding me. What in the world has she been doing the last 4 years
That kind of identidy politics is what got us into this mess. Pick a VP based on a person’s meirt and character – not their skin color and gentilia
Report Post »Wolfpack01
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:53amYou are dreaming to think that blacks will vote anything but race. You must accept that they are still AFRICAN-americans.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:54amWolfpack, say that to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R72fnDUaq_I
Report Post »LibTardHater
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:41pmWell, if Rand is the VP selection, then there is hope for unseating the elected dictator. Any one other than Rand or Ron Paul and you can kiss this country goodbye……just sayin.
Report Post »Wolfpack01
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 3:06amYou are correct. This election is going to be white American producers vs. blacks, Hispanics and parasites (redundancy). To selsct a running mate based on ethnicity is folly. We damn well better get it right or we will being living out our miserable lives in ObaMarx gulags.
Report Post »I am concerned that Romney does not grasp the true evil of ObaMarx.
funwithguitars
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:41pmI think rand is a good choice. Just look up his speech against the ndaa on you tube. It was in the last few days of 2011. Absolutely fabulous!
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:36pmDont do it Rand. Your to good for the white Obama. He has surrounded himself with the same neocons from the Bush/Chenny era of foreign policy. Liberty lovers should not make deals with neocons. We should crush them. We want real small government and real money. Not federal reserve monopoly money. And we dont want to be the police of the world.
Report Post »Ming The Merciless
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:53pmTotally agree – I’m very suspicious about Rand – I kinda have one on him…
I’ll vote for Ron Paul – but not Mitt Romney/Rand.
Report Post »Ming The Merciless
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:32pmI meant to say one eye on him…
Report Post »Patrick Henry II
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:42pmIf you are ot part of the solution you are part of the problem.
Report Post »We are still building the freedom movement. Rand in 2020 if this works out.
OperationNorthwoods
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:35pmRomney needs Paul supporters. Better start talking about the FED.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:48pmBetter start talking anti-Israel too…..
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:00pmYeah he better flip on more than just that. I’m not voting for anyone who supports all that crap post 9/11 legislation. GOP had better get their heads out of their asses on civil liberties.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:21pm@Republicorp, I’m not anti-Israel or pro-Israel.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:25pm@rep
Well Romney is pro foreign aid. We send a lot more aid to enemies of Israel than we do Israel. We could try and listen to Netanyahu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H3Kyt1iGEE
Seems you are Romney are anti Israel.
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 8:26pmHey RepubliCorp
Didnt you say Bilderberg wanst real? Lol I think that was you. Listening to rush to much.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-the-loop-shout-at-a-dictator-get-some-vp-cred/2012/04/11/gIQAtpNOBT_story.html
How does it feel to be treated like crap by the neocons you love?
Report Post »AUsername
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 9:09pmactually how about talking about American instead of Israel, we don’t care about Israel that is all, no hate or no love.
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:37am@ REP
When Israel bombed an Iranian nuclear facility in the 70s, Ron Paul was the only member of congress not to condemn the act. So tell me, how is that anti-Israel?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:34pmPaul is for limited government and limited government is what we need badly,restrain the beast and
Report Post »put the ‘servants’ in their place.
watashbuddyfriend
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:32pmIf Mitt is courting Ron Paul, I say good move!
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:49pmHe is not. It’s his sell out son.
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 8:19amOf course, I misread the headline! PoliticiansRCrooks can you enlighten me sith the ‘sell out,’ Thanks
Report Post »SIXFRIGATES
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:28pmIf Rand Paul is on the ticket, Obama will win.
Report Post »retired_one
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:40pmWhy, because Obama is good or because you want more free stuff?
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on May 28, 2012 at 7:44pmIf you believe that, you have been sleeping in class and not doing your homework.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:28amNo, If Romney is on the ticket, Obama will win.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:17pm^ west coast patriot, agreed.
Report Post »romney is about as likeable as herpes. he’s a john kerry figure, no one identifies with him, he is about as inspirational as a pile of rags.