Is Mitt Romney’s Mormonism Becoming Less of an Issue in the 2012 Race?
- Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:16am by
Billy Hallowell
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Is Mitt Romney’s faith playing a role in his electoral prospects? This is a question that continues to be asked by media outlets and research firms even after the top-tier contender, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, pulled off victories in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Despite these wins, media and leaders, alike, have continued to discuss the role, if any, that Mormonism has been playing in his performance thus far.
In a Jan. 8 op-ed in the Washington Post, Ken Starr, a former special prosecutor and the president of Baylor University (you may remember him from Bill Clinton investigations) admitted a question that is “privately” present in the minds of some voters. He wrote:
In the midst of lively public debates over taxes, jobs, the national debt and similarly important questions related to the future vitality of our nation, a different kind of question continues to privately occupy the minds of some prospective voters: Can I vote for a Mormon?
So, with this question in mind, one wonders how the electorate is responding as at least a faction of it ponders this important consideration. Starr’s op-ed is one of many examples of Mormon-focused articles, incidents and proclamations that have occurred since the contender announced his candidacy.
As you may recall, Romney and Texas Gov. Rick Perry battled it out over anti-Mormon comments made by Pastor Robert Jeffress last fall. “Rick Perry’s a Christian. He’s an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ,” Jefrees said back in October. “Mitt Romney’s a good moral person, but he’s not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity, it has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity.”
Following this drama, another minor scenario played out last month when Craig Bergman, a political director for Newt Gingrich’s campaign, also made controversial comments about Romney’s faith; he referred to it as the “cult of Mormon” and claimed that it would cost Republicans the election. Bergman inevitably left the campaign, although these statements were made before he joined.
Additionally, late last month, when Rev. Franklin Graham (the son of evangelist Billy) was asked if it would be okay for an evangelical Christian to vote for a Mormon. “Yes,” he answered in an interview with CBN. “The fact that Mitt Romney‘s a Mormon doesn’t bother me. I think when we’re voting for president we need to get the person who is absolutely the most qualified.”
Watch these comments, below:
Despite this support, Graham has also admitted the challenges he believes Romney will face. ”It’s going to be difficult for Romney as a Mormon with the evangelical community,” he said. “For most Christians, Mormonism is an issue and he has a hurdle here that he’s going to have to jump over and navigate around if he can.”
Pastor Steven Andrew of USA Christian Ministries called for Graham to retract his initial statements in support of Romney and urged him to repent. “Graham is misleading Christians to vote against Scripture for Mormon Mitt Romney,” Andrew responded. “God cannot bless us for betraying Jesus and voting for a non-Christian. No one comes to God except through Jesus — this includes the USA.”
And it doesn’t end there. Last week, the Marietta Daily Journal covered startling comments last Wednesday from Iowa State Rep. Judy Manning. Manning, a Republican, was quoted as saying, “I’m afraid of his Mormon faith…It’s better than a Muslim.”
Later, Manning, who has backed Gingrich for president, took to Facebook to apologize, claiming that her words were “manipulated.”
“I sincerely apologize to Mitt Romney and for offending people of Mormon faith,” she wrote. Here’s more from her apology:
I have made a terrible mistake with my reckless words. In an attempt to compare Romney and Obama, a seasoned reported manipulated my comparison using verbal judo and made my choice for a Republican Presidential candidate appear to be motivated by religion.
NOT SO! I am supporting Newt Gingrich because he is the smartest, most qualified man for the job. I believe he is the only candidate that can turn this economy around. In the 2012 elections, I believe constituents should focus on the crucial issues plaguing our nation; Foreign Policy, Healthcare, the Economy and Education.
While I believe Newt Gingrich is the best choice for President, I can assure you, I will be supporting whomever wins the support of Republican America on the ballot in 2012…
These, of course, are merely examples and they aren’t necessarily indicative of a larger bias against Mormons. At the least, they show that the issue, as Starr indicated, has been residing somewhere within the depths of some voters’ minds. Over the past year, some poll numbers have also corroborated this notion.
Back in November, the Pew Research Center reported that white evangelical Protestants “are more inclined than the public as a whole to view Mormonism as a non-Christian faith.” In fact, 47 percent of evangelical Christians surveyed said that they didn’t view Mormonism as a part of Christianity.
Overall, Pew found that, while Romney’s faith would potentially impact him in nabbing the nomination, it likely wouldn’t play a major role in a general election.
To further delve into the Pew results, the organization also reported that Republicans who believe that Mormonism isn’t a Christian faith are less likely to support Romney for the GOP nomination. Overall, they also have a less favorable view of him. That being said, they are prepared, nonetheless, to back him if he’s running toe-to-toe against Obama. Pew continues:
…the same Republicans who may have doubts about Romney’s faith are among the most vehement opponents of Barack Obama. Fully 91% of white evangelical Republican voters say they would back Romney over Obama in a general election matchup, and 79% would support Romney strongly. Overall, white evangelicals would be among the strongest Romney supporters if he is the GOP nominee challenging Obama next fall.
On the bright side, only eight percent of Republican and GOP-leaning voters saw Romney‘s faith as a factor in whether they’d vote for him. Among evangelical Republicans, though, this proportion — those saying that they would be less likely to vote for him because of his Mormonism — was 15 percent. This, as Graham noted, is a reality that must be contended with in discussing this important issue.
A June 2011 Gallup poll found that around 20 percent of Republicans and independents wouldn’t support a Mormon presidential candidate; the proportion was even higher — 27 percent — among Democrats.
Last week, Gallup followed this research up and published more recent data:
Given that Mormons constitute about 2% of American adults and 4% of Republicans nationally, the more important factor may be any possible effect that Romney’s faith has on the vote of highly religious non-Mormons, a much larger voting bloc. The current data show that highly religious Protestants do give Romney slightly lower support than he gets among all Republicans, although the five-point difference is not huge.
RNS also recently wrote an article about Romney’s lower support among this same subset of Christians which stated that “evangelicals remain reluctant to support him.” “Evangelicals have come to regard the presidency as a spiritually potent office,” the article quoted Trinity College religion and politics expert Mark Silk as saying. “And the idea of electing someone who will use it on behalf of a religion they consider beyond the pale really bothers them,” he continued.
David Kinnaman, president of the Barna Group, an organization that studies faith and culture, says that, in 2008, the more urban evangelical and the more coastal voters were, the less they saw Romney’s faith as a barrier to voting for him. In terms of analyzing the recent Iowa caucuses, the Washington Post tackled this dynamic last week:
The most interesting poll data from the Iowa caucuses are these: Mitt Romney won in the cities. Rick Santorum won in the rural areas. In Iowa, where the vast majority of voters qualify as “white evangelicals,” these results can only mean one thing. Conservative Christians who reside in urban areas may have been taught in Sunday school that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a heretical sect, but they’re willing to look beyond those teachings and cast a vote for a Mormon who was once pro-choice. Their brothers and sisters who reside in the country are not. Since nearly 80 percent of Americans live in or near cities, that’s very good news for Romney.
Based on polls, news reports and anecdotal examples of leaders speaking negatively about Romney’s faith, it seems there is some hesitation among a portion of evangelical Republicans. But this concern dissipates when GOP adherents consider a scenario in which Romney clinches the ticket. The some factor must be emphasized here, as the majority do not claim to see Mormonism as a barrier to voting for Romney.
In Starr’s article, he encouraged voters to truly reflect upon a candidate’s character and not merely his or her faith allegiance. “The litmus for our elected leaders must not be the church they attend but the Constitution they defend,” he wrote. “Life experience, personal qualities and policy views are the pivotal points to guide Americans as they go to the polls in 2012.”
Back in November, Richard J. Mouw, the president of Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, California, echoed this sentiment, while debunking the notion that Mormonism is a “cult.” He wrote:
Most scholars who study religious movements have long abandoned the use of the “cult” label with reference to Mormonism. With about 14 million adherents around the world, the church has moved into the religious mainstream. Mormons are outstanding business leaders, world-class academicians, novelists, authors of bestselling leadership manuals, influential members of Congress and much more. Not the kind of community we ordinarily associate with a cult. [...]
We evangelicals should cast aside old suspicions and hostilities and listen carefully during this campaign. I believe we should make our voting decisions on the basis of what a Mormon candidate — or any candidate — actually has to say about the values and issues we all care about as citizens.
As the race continues, it’s likely that this issue will continue to be discussed. But with evangelical leaders coming out in support of Romney and with understanding of the Mormon faith on the rise, this may very well dissipate as a factor worthy of deep discussion in the coming months. Interestingly, more than half of Mormons believe that America is ready for an LDS president.
At the moment, it’s still something that continues to be discussed among evangelicals and faith voters, regardless of which side of the theological aisle they reside on.
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Comments (266)
conservativewoman
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:13pmI’m a Catholic and have known Mormons, Baptists, Evangelicals, etc..
Report Post »The ones who treated me the best, and who acted the most like Christians were my Mormon friends.
symphonic
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:04pmand in my anecdotal experience, the Christians who have treated me the worst as a Mormon, have indeed been of the evangelical variety because of their insistence, for instance, that they know more about my faith than I do. That kind of arrogance does not sell.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:21pmConservativewoman;
Good to hear.
Report Post »Kangana
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:34pmI agree! The best people I have ever met, ever, people who would go out of their way to do anything for me or my family and would honorable and honest and genuine, were all Mormons. I don‘t think that’s an accident. My grandparents’ neighbors were Mormon. We didn’t live in the same town, but these sweet, caring people went out of their way every single day to make sure my grandparents were okay, didn’t need anything, didn’t need to be driven anywhere or need yard work. It was amazingly sweet and amazingly simple and amazingly absent from everyday life. Actually we’re still in touch with them even though my grandparents moved. They came to our house last year for a visit, to my grandparents! They traveled to visit my grandparents! Their former neighbors. Who does that?
Also, I’ve had two Mormon friends in my life. In grade school my best friend was Mormon. Being in grade school it never entered my mind what religion she was, but looking back, she was a generous and kind person from a loving family who would do anything for anyone. My Mormon friend in college was the same way. You needed a ride. It was like it was her duty to give it to you, but a duty she performed with a smile and a, “no problem!” I’m sorry. I just will never understand the bias against Mormons. Some people of any group are bad, but when you know people in that group and you see they are not just kind, but kinder than anyone else, it makes you appreciate them more.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:40pm.
Report Post »Mitt:
Lose the teleprompter.
It‘s useful for someone who doesn’t know what he believes.
You’re better than that…………………….aren’t you?
grannyrecipe
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:34amOK, so it’s August, Romney is the nominee and the election is three months away. Romney is sitting down for a cozy fireside interview with Dianne Sawyer:
Sawyer (very innocently with a smile): The Mormon religion teaches that Mormons originally lived on another planet, became spirits that traveled to Earth, chose their parents and were then born and that when you die you go back to that planet where God lives. Do you believe that?
Romney: As you know I am a very devout Mormon and I‘m very active in the church and abide closely to it’s beliefs.
Sawyer: And they also believe that Jesus lived and walked about North America…that too?
Romney: As I said before…
Romney is then interrupted as the cuckoo clock over the mantle strikes 8:00. Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo……..
Report Post »sacwoodpusher
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 11:15amI’ve had Mormon employees. My comment? My Mormon employees were some of the best employees I have ever had.
I practice color blind, religion blind hiring and firing. I have found that those professing faith and being saved, evangelicals, have proven more willing to lie, cheat, and steal than my Mormon employees.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:25pm“Sawyer (very innocently with a smile): The Mormon religion teaches that Mormons originally lived on another planet, became spirits that traveled to Earth, chose their parents and were then born and that when you die you go back to that planet where God lives. Do you believe that?”
Actually, Romney would respond with “Uh, no, Mormons don’t teach that,” because, they don’t.
Report Post »ZengaPA65
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 10:33pmMaybe Mittens will show Diane his magic undies.
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on January 15, 2012 at 8:05pmGRANNYRECIPE
Before you call people cukoo because of their beliefs, please at least learn a little about what they believe.
We do believe we were spirits before we came to this earth and were created by God (our spirits weren’t on a planet before being created which is a weird thing for you to say that we claim we were somewhere before we were created). Not such a weird belief in Christiandom that we existed before comming to this earth (or at least shouldn’t be since it is supported in the Bible).
Hebrews 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
We do all hope when we die that we can return to God.
John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
What is weird about claiming that God walked on the American continent after his resurection? Would he have not had the power to do so if he wanted?
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Your arguments are very week and caustic. I think you might hate Chritians generally and not just the LDS ones.
Report Post »Kangana
Posted on January 21, 2012 at 10:01pmUh, GRANNY, I’m not the norm, but I’ll answer that from an non-bigoted atheist perspective. Who the f— cares? All religions are made up, from the spaghetti monster to Jesus. I don’t mean to offend anyone. I respect religion. But, from my perspective of respectful atheism, I don’t care if someone is Mormon or Baptist or Jewish. I only care about what they say and what they do.
Report Post »stockpicker
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:12pmHas anyone given any serious thought to what the word IDOLATRY really means?
Report Post »Kangana
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:51pmShould anyone care? Do you hate animists in Africa? Hindus? Shouldn’t it only matter what kind of person you are? Do you think people are capable of being a good person without being Christian? I don’t mean whether you think they are going to hell or heaven but can someone be a good person here and now without being the exact same denomination of Christianity that you are?
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:11pmI’m curious as to why noone is making an issue of his father being an illegal immigrant.
Report Post »Mr. Rolaids
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:51pmPerhaps because his father is not running for President.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:12pmHis father isn‘t a citizen of this country doesn’t that make him ineligible to run for office
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:14pmAnd doesn’t that make Mitt an anchor baby
Report Post »barber2
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:31pmWere you curious about Obama’s strange birth certificate and hidden school records? You seem to be pushing this theme…
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:48pmbarber2
The reason I bring it up is to get a better and more clear a picture of the typical conservative hypocrisy.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 4:13pm“George Wilcken Romney’s parents were American citizens Gaskell Romney (1871–1955) and Anna Amelia Pratt (1876-1926); both natives of Utah, they married in 1895 in Mexico and lived in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua (one of the Mormon colonies in Mexico) where George was born on July 8, 1907.”
He was born in Mexico, but to American citizens… making him a citizen. Nice try.
Report Post »G.E.R
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:49pmThat makes him a mexican
Report Post »Darren
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:54pmGER;
“I’m curious as to why noone is making an issue of his father being an illegal immigrant.”
Whose father? Romney’s father? Because Mitt‘s father wasn’t an illegal alien.
To build on Freedompurveyor let me mention the following, “Romney entered politics by participating in a state constitutional convention to rewrite the Michigan Constitution during 1961–1962. He was elected Governor of Michigan in 1962 and was re-elected by increasingly large margins in 1964 and 1966. Romney worked to overhaul the state’s financial and revenue structure, culminating in Michigan’s first state income tax, and greatly expanded the size of state government. Romney was a strong supporter of the American Civil Rights Movement while governor. He briefly represented moderate Republicans against conservative Republican Barry Goldwater during the 1964 U.S. presidential election. He requested the intervention of federal troops during the 1967 Detroit riot.
Romney was a candidate for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in 1968. While initially a front-runner, he proved an ineffective campaigner, and fell behind Richard Nixon in polls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney
So, are you saying that an illegal alien was governor and ran for president in 1968?
Rrrrrriiiiiggggghhhhhttttt
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:01pmNegative
Report Post »Janadele
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:38pmMore likely because he was not.
Report Post »In 1885, Miles Romney travelled from Utah to Chihuahua to raise his family and create a refuge for fellow Latter-day Saints. One of the children he brought with him was Gaskell Romney father of George W. Romney. At no time did they relinguish their American Citizenship. As the Mexican Revolution broke out, the Romneys including five year old George W. headed back North to Idaho and Utah. George W Romney, Mitt’s father, became President of American Motors, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Governor of Michigan and himself a presidential possibility.
Bucky007
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 9:38amOh ye Ignorant One.
If a child is born outside the United States, to parents who are United States Citizens, then that child is automatically a US citizen.
Some Countries of birth may also accept a dual citizenship for that individual..
Mitt’s Parents, Grandparents and Great Grandparents, were all US citizens. eg so is He.
John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, to US citizens. Therefore, he too, is a US Citizen.
Barry Goldwater was not born in the United Stares, but the Arizona territory. He too, was a US citizen.
George Romney, who also ran for President, though born in Mexico, was also a US citizenm.
Do people teach Civics anymore?
Report Post »The stupidity of the electorate is why we ended up with Obama.
Wise up people, or stand dowm.
DandD
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:28pmBecause George Romney was BORN IN THE USA. It was Mitt’s grandfather who was born in Mexico. There is no evidence that he was an illegal immigrant.
Report Post »father_of_10
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:08pmJimmy Carter was an evangelical bible-toting church going Southern Baptist. How did that work out for you bigotted bible-thumpers?
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:54pmFATHE OF 10
Well, I was so disgusted with OA Criswell’s (My Pastor as First Bapt. Dallas And former President of the So Bapt Conv) backing of President Carter, and anti-mormon comments; II took the missinary discussions to find out what you people really believed. I called the missionaries on the phone June 7th 1979…told them I wanted to hear what the mormon‘s believe and then i wanted y’all to leave me the hell alone, dont knock on my door anymore forvever!!
Report Post »Though the niave little jerkwads kept their promise and never knocked on my door again….it probably helped that i was baptized two weeks later in the Patriarch’s swimming pool on June 21st 1979.
Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:06pmRick Santorum getting hit in paid ads by Pro-Romney PAC
This will be effective I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=oi6JL8JlLKM#t=0s
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:55amI guess religion doesn’t matter in political elections.
Current polls in SC show that Romney has 40% of the evangelical Christian vote.
Dr. Linzey later stated, “Among the six remaining GOP hopefuls, two are evangelical — Ron Paul and Rick Perry. But the tell-tale sign of being qualified for the presidency is not faith, but loyalty to the Constitution which defends the open expression of faith. Ron Paul seems to be the candidate most loyal to the Constitution according to the records. So when other evangelical leaders endorse GOP contenders of other faiths and traditions, some of whom have received funds from special interest groups, and are not as loyal to the Constitution as is Dr. Paul, one must necessarily ask, ‘What is their agenda?’ because they certainly are not endorsing the most qualified nor the most evangelical. If evangelicals wish to make faith an issue, then they should take a closer look at Dr. Paul’s statement on his web site, ‘Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.’”
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/460818637.html
Report Post »AhLeahIris
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:58amRomney’s mormonism may be less of an issue, but this isn’t: http://wp.me/p1HGwx-1Y0
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:02pmI’ll take a mormon over a muslim, who is waging a jihad on our economy….
Report Post »NOTAMUSHROOM
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:03pmWas Obama’s Muslimism an issue in the 2008 election? What a dumb question.
Report Post »brdatwork2
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:08pm@AhLeahIris –
You are as big of an idiot as she is in the video. After watching one of her videos with the claims she makes (doesn’t allow comments on her youtube videos) it took me 5 minutes to debunk EVERYTHING she said about Mitt!!
Do some research before following a loon like her and stop SPAMMING the message boards with links to her videos.
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:59pm@ AhLeahIris
Please don’t vote in the upcoming election.
We only have 1500 characters and I would probably need 4 pages to reply to each of this womans remarks. The frustration and time would be non-beneficial for myself,…so I will concentrate on one item that best enables me to prove my thesis of my plea for you to dismiss your personal application to the privilage of selecting our next President.
Romneycare. Authored by Heritage Foundation. State insurance program. Reason was to offer the low income/ entitlement housing benefits of insurance coverage that otherwise had no opportunity to afford such. This covered plan was offered as a ballot initiative to the electorate to apply coverage for 7.7 to 7.9 of the states population. The electorate approved by an substantial margin, even with republicans by a 2.65 to1 margin…almost three to one. Thats only 8% that would be participating in this state’s legislative approved bill. Did Romney think it was a good idea– YES– he signed the bill however because it was what the STATES ELECTORATE demanded of the elected officials.
Obama-care requires 100% of the NATION. And he signed it into law without the majority support of the nations electorate.
Now do you understand the old saying you can not compare apples and oranges?
We by law design and require individuals to enroll in drivers education classes but allow anyone vote without showing they have aquired the necessary education to conduct a choice based on l
Report Post »RealAmerican2
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:53amI haven‘t heard much of anything about Romney’s Mormonism in a while. I think his business record is what’s on trial at the moment. It appears as though the opposition is trying to make him look like a big, bad business man who doesn’t care about the little people. One whose never run a business or stepped in to save one from crashing, can‘t possibly understand the business decisions Romney’s had to make in the past years. It’s so easy for people to attack him, without fully comprehending how the business world works, and that’s unfair. I think his religion is becoming a non-issue.
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:20pmNotice that the “opposition” that like to criticize are all career politicians – not businessmen
Report Post »flyoverbob
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:27pmI am old enough to remember John Kennedy’s faith being an issue for a while,but by the time the election came around it was not an issue.
Report Post »At that time there wasn’t so much media .It seems they have to find a story so they will bleed the life out of tis issue too.
I can still remember this spooky old aunt of mine saying .That damn Cath-a-lick will never be President.Come to think of it a lot of the progressives were saying the same thing
napoleon_solo
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:45pmHe does not care about the little guy. Try watching the clip of him trying to tell a group of blue collar voters that massive profits earned by shutting down their jobs and going into corporate pockets is okey dokey because, “…corporations are people too.” This is the mindset of a privileged son of wealth and he will never earn a blue collar vote saying such things – technically true or not.
Report Post »mchedgehog
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:53amAs a huge fan of Jim Collins’ Good to Great, I would say that Mitt Romney fits the mold of a “Level 5” leader (the highest level of leadership capability). This fact should give much comfort to voters. Such leaders are humble and possess fierce resolve, and they are more ambitious for the cause than for themselves. All three of these qualities were manifest in the 2008 primaries where, after dropping out, he was humble enough to take the back seat and resolutely work for the cause of John McCain.
As for Mormons not being Christians, it is more accurate to say that Mormons are not creedal Christians, but rather adhere to a more biblical view of Jesus Christ. Using the acid test of “fruits” given by Christ, it’s hard to dispute the Christian actions (fruits) of the Mormons (worldwide humanitarian efforts, strong families, competent professionals, law-abiding citizens, belief in the divine nature of the Constitution, etc.).
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:21pmYes, I’m sure Mitt has many good qualities but with all due respect, they may promote the “fruits” more, which is great, but unfortunately, they are not more “biblical” re Jesus & many of their beliefs. Just the opposite. What’s confusing is that they believe in Jesus dying for the forgiveness of their sins, etc. What they don‘t mention is they don’t believe He is “God” , part of the “Trinity” – that He is only a creation and “A” God (brother to Lucifer I think). In John 1:1,2, the word order in Greek shows that the Word was “God”, not “a God”….major distinction. There are many other beliefs contrary to the Bible –
This religion is based on “revelations” from an angel given to J. Smith. Scriptures say satan can appear as an angel of light, 2 Cor. 11:14, 15 & say to reject everything else even if from angel from heaven, Gal. 1:8,9 since the Bible is COMPLETE, 2 Tim. 3:16 Smith either made it all up or indeed saw & believed an angel… a demonic one; ignored scriptures – plain and simple. Being “nice”, “moral”, etc. does not mean you are right on your biblical doctrine, spiritual matters and/or “saved”.
Report Post »Mr. Rolaids
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:46pmMOMPRAYN,
You are partially correct on part of your beliefs about us (meaning you are mostly wrong). Do more research.
Report Post »rx4nv
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:54pmMormons believe in the Trinity in that God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Ghost are 3 separate beings with One purpose. So as you can see the Term God does not necessarily refer to a specific being, rather a position in the Holy Order of the Priesthood. Thus, if you are referring to Jesus as “A” God, you are correct because he is one God within “A” group of Gods. Saying he is “A” God does not in anyway take away from his Godhood. Mormons understand this relationship and therefore when you speak of God. God the Father is our God. Jesus Christ is the God of this earth, because he helped create it and it was given to him to rule over. It sounds like you (momprayn) do not fully understand what the Mormons truly believe. I would suggest finding some of their missionaries and asking them some questions.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:53amI personally believe that Mitt’s membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was never a real issue in the minds of most Americans.
I think that the anti-mormons are simply a few loud mouths. It’s just like how the loud mouth OWS protestors pretend they represent the 99% when they really only represent 1%.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:07pmFace it, though, “the minds of most Americans” is not the same as “the minds of some prolific Blaze posters.”
Report Post »father_of_10
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:53amAll of Mitt’s flip flops are him going from liberal to conservative. From pro-choice to pro-life, From government healthcare to personal non-government healthcare. From non-hunter to hunter.
If a politician is going to flip flop, then isn’t this the direction we wnat them to go? Which direction did Reagan go when he left the Democrats and flip flopped?
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:51amI have a hard time getting past the magic underwear, the racism (that existed early on when Mormonism was created) and the fact that there is virtually no archeological evidence of any of the civilizations mentioned in the book of mormon……..but that aside…….I defend Mormons right to worship freely and I would vote for Romney.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:21pmstart the research….http://solomonspalding.com/SRP/saga2/sagawt0b.htm
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:22pmAlready done massive amounts of it.
all your answers found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1mFdO1wB08
Cult:
http://pastormark.tv/2011/10/18/is-mormonism-a-cult
Worship freely. Not considered Christians.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:25pmor more focused: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0u6clxJmI8
Report Post »ModerationIsBest
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:32pmAh, a Christian calling a Mormon crazy for their beliefs. There is something hilarious satisfying about that.
Report Post »Dosrios
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:44pm“Not considered Christians.”
A self-professed “Christian,” to me, is a lunatic loser like my crackpot mother, who knew all the verses, said “Praise the Lord” every time somebody passed gas, and first and foremost, KNEW that God was on her side, never once stopping to think in her vicious personal actions that maybe she should have been on God’s side.
There are decent people who are Christians, but they don’t bleat about it to the disgust of all others.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 3:13pm@MODERATIONISBEST
You seem to find satisfaction in strange places.
Report Post »AnAppealToGod
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 4:24pm@Dosrios Don’t have a problem with Mormons. It’s when they say they are Christians do I draw the line. Jews don‘t want to be called Mormons because they simply aren’t. If you need it broken down further… A current active member of the Army does not get to be called a sailor and automatically a member of the Navy. Doesn’t work that way. There are fundamental beliefs that make Christians what they are and Mormons have drastically different views at the core that separate them from what is considered to be Christian. Simple as that. You’re the one making and creating this into some bigoted stance. It’s not. If your brain requires that kind of drama to function, as sad as that is, so be it.
@ModerationIsBest
So you don’t believe in God the Father, God the Son and God the holy spirit? Big deal. You’re not special. Somehow miraculously you are here. Take your seat with the rest and good luck with the amount of faith it requires to put into that 3lb piece of meat between your shoulders to figure out the better alternative.
If you want to talk about the lives that Mormons lead and how good of people they are, that’s a different story. I think they are incredible in that sense. Salt Lake City is one of the nicest places on earth. I support them and have some as friends. I just have a disagreement with them. Just like I don’t agree with big government. Keep this simple. Making it into a big dramatic “you’re a bigot, no you’re a bigot” argume
Report Post »saranda
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 5:54pmIBLINGOD – simply solution to end all the debate is to excavate the mounds. But nope, that would be too conclusive.
Report Post »SychinLegacy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:49amA person’s religion is NEVER an issue for most people. It‘s Romney’s policies that frighten me.
Report Post »PickingCotton
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:44amWe are in trouble Romney and PAUL are idiots.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:22pmWe are in trouble ….. and will be lucky if Obama doesn’t invoke martial law before the elections.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:34amDoes Romney have the PERSONALITY of a president?
Report Post »Chris Wallace nails Mitt for dodging interviews http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67162.html
Romney totally disrespects guy with muscular distrophy. http://youtu.be/WS_Ua9Rv3KM
Romney, the draft dodger: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/…/part1_side_2/
Romney very critical of Fox interviewer = childish http://the-opinionated-fool.blogspot…ret-baier.html
Stammering, Romney refuses to say he will deport illegal immigrants: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201…on-immigration
Romney avoids the Tea Party: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/…rom_tea_party/
Romney avoids social conservatives in Iowa: http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/201…tt-romney.html
aggiebydefault
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:47amGreat links, however EVERYONE here will hold their noses and vote for him next November. The other five are NEVER going to make it………let’s get our heads wrapped around that sooner rather than later
Report Post »joel228
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 9:58pmVechorik, you are a dope. I watched just one and know I don’t need to watch any other because you misrepresent them. The guy with muscular dystrophy was just a setup question. Someone trying to trip him up about the legalization of medical marijuana. He answered the question like a conservative should that he was not in favor of legalizing it. Now you go smoke what you’ve got and vote for Ron Paul who is extremely liberal when it comes to drugs and other vises.
Report Post »notreally
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:34amThe demcrat media will avoid religion because of Obama’s own religious past, the most prominent aspect being the Rev Wright.
3/13/08 ABC News: Michelle and Barack attended the same church for 20 years. “Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, The Audacity of Hope.”
Reverend Wright preached that Whites invented HIV to kill Blacks, that America deserved 9/11 and America is a terrorist nation. “Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor says blacks should not sing ‘God Bless America’ but ‘God damn America’.”
One can only hope that Romney doesn’t do a McCain regarding this issue and perform a feckless retreat from discussing this America-hating President’s religious education.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:34amReligion isn’t an issue if Romney could just stick to the CONSTITUTION! — but he can’t! That’s my problem with him.
2012 Presidential Candidates – Gun Owners Of America
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Ron Paul A+
Report Post »Rick Perry A
Michelle Bachmann A
Rick Santorum B-
Newt Gingrich C
Mitt Romney D-
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:32amThe thing about Mormons is their churche’s foundation is based on polygamy. Now, it would only require a small baby step backwards for them to widely practice polygamy once again. And if America became a Mormon nation then Muslims wouldn’t have to “Nudge” them very hard at all to get Mormons practicing polygamy once again.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:35amAnd because the Mormon‘ heart is so close to the Muslim’ heart, they are unto brothers who dislike each other, and that is why Mormons vehemently dislike Muslims.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:41amAnd the very interesting thing is that it is the Mormon influence on Europe which is ushering Islam into Europe.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:47amSee, on the outside here on the face of the earth Mormons dislike Muslims, but alas, on the inside “Of the deep” you are brothers, and your hearts are attracted to each other. That’s why in Islam they outlaw liquor and gays, and that‘s why to be a good Mormon you can’t drink liquor and they don’t allow known gays to be Mormon.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:49amHAHA.
Funny. The foundation of the church is Jesus Christ.
Did Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob practice polygamy, ?????
Anyway, you misrepresent the Faith. IF you practice polygamy in the Church today, you get excommunicated.
It is not permitted UNLESS it serves the purposes of the Lord, as you would know had you studied the teaching of the faith. There are times when it was a practice, in the former centuries, but not today.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:51amAbraham Young,
Report Post »No, their founder is Joseph Smith whom believed in Polygamy, and he didn’t learn that from Jesus Christ.
Abraham Young
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:51amYou generalize too much. Mormons and Muslims cannot be so easily summarized as large collective groups. They are far too individual for that, and run the spectrum of feelings towards each other.
Report Post »Erica
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:54amThat’s the most bigoted, uninformed thing I’ve ever heard, Eliasim. Polygamy has not been practiced or wanted for over 150 years by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Also a very few percent of the Mormon population ever practiced it.
That’s as illogical as saying that we could easily go back to slavery. We’re just a nudge away right? It was ONLY a 150 years ago that some American’s had slaves!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:56amAbraham Young,
Report Post »You are a sad state of thought. They are not individual because if one drinks liquor then they are classified as not a good Mormon, and gays can not become Mormon. Mormonism is the precursor to a Nation becoming Islam and Sharia compliant.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:59amSay what you want to, but there are Catholic Priests who are reading this, and they know I’m right.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:00pmso is Christianity based on polygamy since most of the prophets in the Old Testament had multiple wives?
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:02pm@ELIASIM –
I am a “Mormon” and I do not “vehemently dislike Muslims” as you suppose. I do not “vehemently dislike” members of any religion. However, as an American and a former Marine, I do “vehemently dislike” many of the fruits of the some religions – such as terrorism.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:15pmP8riot,
Report Post »Oh you don’t vehemently dislike Muslims? So then you don’t vehemently dislike that they force people not to drink alcohol, and you don’t vehemently dislike Sharia law? Because that is by definition, what Islam is all about?
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:19pmP8riot,
Report Post »You say you don’t dislike them, you say. And the truth of the matter is that although you don’t like terrorists, but you, you personally, do like the idea of making people do things. And if you were in charge of the Mormon religion, you would want to force people to comply with Mormonism.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:32pmP8riot,
Report Post »And of course you are not going to wear the things I said about you on your sleeve, because the time isn’t right yet for you to expose your true nature. Mostly because you are afraid of people’s opinions of you that it may affect the life you have gained. You are not honest even with your self, and therefore there is no way on earth you will be honest with others.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:35pmP8riot,
Report Post »And you are a prime example of the way Mormonism is a precursor to Islam.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:42pmAnd it‘s implicate of the things I’m talking about, that while the U.S government is beginning to address subjects such as “Bing Drinking” that a Mormon (Mormonism doesn’t like alcohol)is getting very close to the White House.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:43pm@ELIASIM –
Quite frankly, you sound very erratic. Calm down. I’m not sure if you were asking questions or making assumptions in a rhetorical manner.
Anyhoo, I do have to at least try to reply to your final statement because I think it encompasses most of what you are trying to say. Firstly, it begin on a false premise. No man is in charge of the “mormon religion” – we are the Church of JESUS CHRIST (of Latter-day Saints) – thus Jesus Christ is “in charge” of our religion. It’s His church. Therefore, the living Prophet who is called by God, is simply a mouthpiece and not “in charge”.
Now that the proper foundation is laid, I’ll answer your assertion. No- our “religion” does not “force” anything on anyone. Every member is free to come and go as they please. One of the most basic principle of our religion is the concept of “agency”, or in other words, the ability to choose for ourselves right or wrong. In fact, we believe that Satan was cast out from the presence of the Father because he sought to take away the “agency” of man. Thus, we are very protective of the right to choose for one’s self.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:50pmP8riot,
Report Post »In your dreams Jesus Christ is in charge of your church. Jesus Christ 1. wouldn’t attach golden plates to Heaven 2. He wouldn’t pick a prophet who is enticed or practices polygamy 3. He wouldn’t label a church Latter Day Saints. Your church belongs to none other than Lucifer himself.
Eliasim
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:59pmP8riot,
Report Post »By the way – I’m very calm, just so you know. But it’s you who are not calm, because I caused a bitterness in your belly that is causing waves in your heart, and since you view other people through your own eyes, therefore you think I am erratic. I reached out and stepped on your nerves.
Kankokage
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:16pmHate begets hate. Eliasim, with each hateful post, you lack the restraint and have to post yet another hateful post. Furthermore, trying to put so-called “beliefs” in the mouths of actual, living, breathing Mormons is simply idiotic. Everything you have posted – including the chaotic, psychotic frequency and multiplicity of your posts – shows you to be unhinged mentally.
Try living in a Christlike manner and follow the parable of the Good Samaritan. Do not be so hasty to destroy others with whom you have a disagreement of opinion – we aren’t out to get you.
Report Post »Luke611
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:37pmOn , I too consider your rhetorical expose initiated as an expression of anxiety. P8riot is attempting to convey a position of our belief without conflicting the Holy Spirit from blessing you with the ability to discern truth.
You label these comments upon LDS as being of Lucifer, yet your comments are so dark and twisted concerning our belief paradyne that you imply that you are of the Christainity that you mock us for not embracing.
Report Post »I invite you to come unto Christ,…to come to know the true and full gospel of Jesus Christ as I did many years ago.
I recognize the person you are; I was once just as you…as anti-mormon as you project, spewing not only false doctrine but also half truths and mocking inuendo.
I was taught the bible is without error….and then I actually read it on my own and came to Judas’ death and Pauls vision….I was told that God and Christ are the same…and Stephen in acts tells us differently, as does the voice at Christ baptism. I was told no man as seen God face to face and yet did not Jacob, Moses, Ezekiel….I found many other contradictions and then verses of missing scriptures. This would lead me to study the origin of the bible and i came to the conclusion as to exactly what Roger Williams who founded the First Baptist church in America (Providence 1638)
“There is no regularly constituted church of Christ on earth, nor any person qualified to administer any church ordinances; nor can there be until new apostles are sent by the Great
circleDwagons
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:40pmwhat’s wrong with polygamy? as long as a man can support his family why should anyone care how big it is? what’s the differance between being married and divorce several times or just being married several times?
Report Post »Darren
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 7:53pmEliasm;
You’re stupid. If you bring forth something smidgenely intelligent, I’ll be glad to discuss it with you. But until then I guess I’ll pretty much leave you to your convoluted world.
Report Post »Trex
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 2:13amEliasm, there are many differences between LDS people and Muslims. First and foremost is that LDS people look to Jesus Christ the Son of God for our salvation. He is the way, the only way.
Also, if you’re going to condemn LDS people for once having practiced polygamy you must also condemn everyone in the Bible who did so. That includes Abraham, who God made the covenant with.
Report Post »DandD
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 3:56pmEliasim, the foundation of the LDS church is Jesus Christ. That is why the church is called “The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints”. Polygamy has not been practiced in the church for over 150 years. It has no bearing on what we believe.
Report Post »Icnivad
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:17pmEliasim. Ever heard of the saying “condemn the sin, not the sin”?
Report Post »Icnivad
Posted on January 14, 2012 at 5:19pm*sinner*
Report Post »CatB
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:31amThis should NOT be an issue .. the man believes in God … practices his faith and has strong family ties … kind of like JFK .. only without the adultery. (I’m sure some from lefty websites will try to dispute that last fact.)
Report Post »HKS
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:30amStrange times, Mormonism an issue, Communism, progressive-ism & Marxism OK.
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:30pmyes, interesting times indeed
Report Post »aggiebydefault
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:30amAmericans survived the concept of a Catholic in the White House (Panic! the President will be answering to The Pope), I don’t see the concept of magic underwear being a problem especially in an election where people are voting AGAINST someone rather that FOR someone.
However the first Jewish Presidential Candidate is going to catch hell.
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:54amAmerica’s future….a Muslim running for president? Curious what kind of a reaction but probably would not be a problem….just asking…..does religion matter for the president’s seat? The present president says America is not a Christian nation….hummm.
Report Post »You young people sure embrace alot….I am old and (God’s Will & Timetable for me) the Exit-Sign is not SCARY, because I am a believer, but crap, America is sure getting to be a big puzzle for me. Still enjoying life and God’s Grace for my life. God Bless America!!!
Dosrios
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 2:52pmExactly right, Aggie… I remember a rumor going around after JFK was elected that the federal government was deep into a project to collect 300 used bowling balls.
To make a rosary for the Statue of Liberty ! : )
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:28amThe issue of Willard Mitt Romney Mormonism mirrors the issue with Barack Hussein Obama Jr as a man of color. It’s not the religion nor the color of skin, look at the record and his people of influence.
No to Mitt, No to Hussein
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:51pmif poverty sucks it’s because of the individual! you can’t blame government for that! if so go join occupy and poop on the sidewalk with the winners down there!
Report Post »Romney, love em , hate him, or somewhere in between is the only real solution running that will hand Obummer his pink slips. What he does after inaugauration is yet to be seen but I can tell you it will be in the opposite direction of Barry and that’s a start!
Newt is a progressive , Santorum can’t Win and neither can Paul!
Perry has foot and mouth disease which is manifest every time he speaks.
Paul also has ties to barney Frank and Soros so that gotta be a non started for any informed voter.
But hey poverty go ahead and cast a vote for more poverty cause atlases then u can keep you name!
BetterDays
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:27amWhy not? Neither Catholicism nor Mormonism are Christian in terms of biblical scripture, but we‘ve had a catholic president haven’t we.
Report Post »I don’t base my vote on religion alone, but upon content of character.
Romney flip flops more than a fish out of water. He’s an old school, co-opted , big government , say anything to get elected RINO and he WON’T get my vote, or voice in ANY situation, ever. Because as sure as the sun rises, every promise of true conservatism that passes his lips now is naught but empty prose to deceive you to vote for him. Be deceived if that’s what you want, but don’t come crying here afterwards and expect an iota of empathy from me when you do.
Steelhead
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:38amCatholics aren’t Christians? are you sure ?
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:46amYou don’t know your scripture. Please tell us where the Bible excludes Catholics or Mormons.
In point of fact, the Christian religion was restored to the earth via the prophet Joseph Smith.
In Amos 3:7 we are told that the Lord does His work through prophets.
We also know that the Bible teaches there would come a falling away from true Christianity and the need for a restoration. And we see how the Church of Christ actually DID fall away from the purity of His teachings and we were without the fulness of the Gospel for hundreds of years.
The Bible is just a small part of the scriptural records that were made by the early Church fathers. It did not exist in its present form until 1500 years after Christ.
Do you suppose that the Lord who spoke through the Bible in times past, can never speak again by any means?
He has spoken again. Anything his prophets speak via the Holy Ghost IS scripture. You can gain a testimony of Christ via the witness of His Spirit, now, as in times past.
It’s up to you, you have your feedom of choice. He will not force His will upon you. But if I were in your place, I would want ALL the doctrines of salvation I could lay my hands and heart upon.
Give up you prejudice and false learning and come into the Light of His love.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:10pmBiblically speaking, from the cannon of scripture held by evangelicals, neither Catholicism nor Mormonism stand the test of following the teaching in those scriptures.
Report Post »I’m not here to bash either group, please don’t mistake my comment, but I stand upon GODs word alone, sola scriptura, and though I won’t do so here, I have fully satisfied myself that neither of those “faiths” stands upon scripture alone. Might I suggest you com are both faiths to scriptures litmus test, do they teach EVERY and ONLY the teachings in scripture, the answer sadly in no.
Nevertheless, I wouldn’t hold this against Romney in considering him, however his abysmal record of “appeasement” has removed him from my even considering voting for him.
I feel saddened that prop,e let others teach them, both the word of GOD, and upon whom to vote.
As GOD says ” my people perish for lack of knowledge.”.
OutOfTheAether
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:38pmI’m confused – just what IS the definition of being a Christian? All my life I thought it meant “an adherent to the teachings of Jesus Christ”. Obviously, there are various other definitions floating around
Report Post »marvel
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 1:01pm@BetterDays
You said: “Biblically speaking, from the cannon of scripture held by evangelicals, neither Catholicism nor Mormonism stand the test of following the teaching in those scriptures.”
By all means, demonstrate with specifics. You may or may not be aware, but latter-day saints consider the Bible to be the word of God, and English speaking members use the King James Version as our official Bible. As far as we are concerned our religion is in complete harmony with the message in the Bible. We study and preach from the Bible in our meetings too. I’m sure if there was something in the Bible that contradicts our beliefs we would have run into it by now.
I can easily demonstrate my religion to you using the Bible. It’s a matter of interpretation. By what authority can you say that your interpretation is better that ours, or the Catholics’ interpretation for that matter?
People say we are not Christian, but what they really mean is that we are not their flavor of Christianity, or at best, we are not mainstream or historic Christians, according to their interpretation of the Bible.
Report Post »jack82431
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:25amGet on some of the blogs and commentary sites and you’ll see how much hateful and, quite frankly,
Report Post »ignorant bias and vitriol still exists in the minds of many, many Americans. In polls I think there will be a lot of people who will say it won’t affect their vote because they realize it makes them look like redneck hillbilly backwoods inbred religious bigots, but actually will hold it against the candidate. It is truly a sad commentary for the 21st Century.
The_Jerk
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:21amRomney’s Mormonism is not the issue. The problem with Romney is his progressive-ism.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:30amBingo.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:32amyes
Report Post »krjones
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:35amDitto
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:46amCorrect
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:12pmCorrect.
Report Post »Mr. Oshawott
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:23pm@The Jerk
Absolutely correct. I couldn‘t care less about Mitt’s Mormon faith; it’s his seriously questionable voting record and shady history that discourages me from voting for him.
Report Post »joel228
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 10:19pmI didn’t vote for Reagan (my first vote) because I was told about his liberalism in California. He turned out to be pretty good. I’m betting from the turning points of Romney and the direction he has taken under much liberal pressure that he will surprise us. I believe he will turn out to be more conservative than he is getting credit for. Especially if he can get a good conservative house and senate behind him.
Report Post »IIIper
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:21amWho cares if he’s a Mormon. The trouble is that he’s a moron.
Anti-gun, big-government, pro-socialism (healthcare)… That’s a funny sort of “Republican”.
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 11:31amand like most politicians……….he has people do surveys and then takes the most popular stand……….then when he is in office he does what he wants………….he has a track record of doing this …..but…….he also did mandatory healthcare before obama……..notice how that has faded to the background
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 12:21pmWhen Mitt signed that piece of legislation (healthcare), he was probably humming “Hail to the Chief”. Bad move. He was guided more by political expediency than by principle and conviction. Mitt‘s problem isn’t his religion…rather it’s him not living his religion as well as he could.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on January 13, 2012 at 6:32pmRon Paul…..Now THERE’S a man with principles. I have no use for the others.
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