Politics

Is Obama Running a ‘National Lottery’ to Raise Campaign Funds?

(Please note the new information in added in a January 1, 2012 update added to the end of this story.)

In the past 10 days, a barrage of emails from the Obama 2012 camp touting “Dinner with Barack and Michelle” has left me wondering: Is President Obama running a national lottery to raise money for the coming election?

Based on my review of this fundraising campaign “promotion,“ the answer would be ”yes.”

The idea is a simple one:

  • Obama 2012 asks the people on its substantial mailing list (of which I am one) to donate to the campaign, and each time you give between $3 and $2500, your name is entered into a drawing.
  • After Dec. 31, three names will be drawn and those lucky folks (and their guests) will be having dinner with the president and first lady.

Of course there are rules, regulations and hoops to jump through. In fact, there are seven pages of rules and regulations. (Let’s not lose sight of the fact that this promotion comes from a political party. Political animals on both sides of aisle have a tendency to create bloated documents filled with extraneous words and concepts.)

One of the first things you notice in 2,000-plus-word “rules” document is that you are not required to spend a penny in order to enter the promotion:

NO PURCHASE, PAYMENT, OR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION OF ANY KIND IS NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN THIS PROMOTION.

No purchase necessary? This seemed odd, as every single note received from Obama 2012 this week (and there were emails sent daily since Christmas) mentioned that if you donate today, you will be entered into the promotion.

Here‘s the line from Michelle Obama’s note, sent just yesterday.

Also, when you donate today, you are automatically entered for a chance to be one of three supporters to have dinner with Barack and me.

Obama 2012s Dinner with Barack Lottery

The first lady was not alone in promoting the “Dinner with Barack” lottery. My inbox was also hit with pleas from:

President Obama - “It’s not all that often that Michelle and I get to host a casual meal with friends. That‘s one of the reasons we’re both excited about the upcoming dinner with three supporters and your guests. It‘s the first one we’ve ever done like this together, and we’d love to have you and whoever you choose to join us. Chip in $3 or whatever you can today — and you’ll automatically be entered to be one of our dinner guests.”

Vice President Joe Biden – His email ended with a P.S. –”Right now, any donation you make automatically enters you for a chance to sit down for dinner with Barack and Michelle. You shouldn’t pass that up.”

Obama’s former “bodyman” and pal Reggie Love - Reggie’s email called the promotion a “contest” stating -  I kind of love this “Dinner with Barack and Michelle” contest. You all have to do this.

Deputy Campaign Manager Julianna Smoot – (She’s written me 11 times — twice since Dec. 21 — once to sign a New Year’s card, and of course “make a donation.”

Obama 2012s Dinner with Barack Lottery

And a second time, she wrote to entice me to donate by sending the “Seating Chart” for my dinner with Barack.

Obama 2012s Dinner with Barack Lottery

The idea of sitting down with the president of the United States and his wife, at an intimate dinner with only eight people in attendance is quite attractive. Think of the lifetime of memories and stories you will have.

And then there are the tax consequences.

Just like winning a car from Oprah, this prize is something you will pay to win. Written into the rules is a statement about the tax liability to all winners.

ALL FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RECEIPT OR USE OF ANY PRIZE ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF WINNER.  

So, you might win a dinner with the first couple, but it’s ultimately going to cost you. How much? That all depends on your tax bracket and the value of the prize. The official rules document has put a value on the prize - Approximate retail value of the each entire trip package: $1,600.

That $1600 price tag is based on airfare for two at $600 each, a hotel room for one night — double occupancy $200 — and dinner for two, $200. You see, winners will not be visiting the White House for dinner with the Obamas. The event will happen somewhere else in America and all winners will be arranging their own travel and hotel accommodations, and will be credited up to $1,400 for travel and hotel.

One wonders if the IRS would agree on the value placed on this prize? The question might be posed… How much would someone pay for a semi-private dinner with the leader of the free world and his wife? Surely is it more than $1,600.

And should the IRS decide that the value is higher than the price claimed and therefore taxes were not properly paid, additional taxes, plus penalties and interest could be due.

If you are still interested in winning dinner with Barack and Michelle, there are a couple more hurdles that all entrants must get over: Eligibility and the White House background check.

Eligibility – Who can win?  PROMOTION OPEN ONLY TO INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL PERMANENT U.S. RESIDENTS WHO ARE LEGAL RESIDENTS OF THE FIFTY (50) UNITED STATES, THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AND PUERTO RICO, AND OVER THE AGE OF 18 (OR THE AGE OF MAJORITY UNDER APPLICABLE LAW).

Based on that stipulation, Obama’s 67-year-old Uncle Onyango Obama would not be allowed to enter or win. (He’s also bounced from the promotion because he is a relative.)

The background check: Of course you want the president and his wife to be safe in the company of the winners, so you must pre-qualify them. Checking backgrounds on the millions who send in a $3 donation would be costly and time-consuming. So here is how Obama 2012 is winnowing down the list:

Fifty (50) potential winners will be selected by a random drawing from all eligible entries to be held at Obama for America Headquarters on January 20, 2012. Sponsor may, at its option, conduct a background check on each potential winner. Sponsor reserves the right to disqualify any potential winner from receiving any prize based on such background check if Sponsor determines, in its sole discretion that awarding any prize to such potential winner could result in a safety or security risk to any person or persons or could result in the disruption of any event associated with the Promotion. Sponsor will, in its sole discretion, then select three (3) winners from the list of eligible potential winners on the basis of criteria determined and applied by Sponsor to provide for an appropriate range of views, backgrounds, and interests among the winners selected. Winners will be notified by phone or e-mail by January 31, 2012.

Do you understand it all now?

• You have until midnight tonight to enter the promotion.

• On January 20th, 50 finalists will be selected and backgrounds checked.

• And then three lucky winners will be chosen and notified by phone or e-mail by January 31, 2012

Did you notice that this is not a random drawing? Even when you get past the background checks and down to the final 50, this is not going to based on the luck of the draw, but on the decision of the Obama campaign. The wording inside the last bit of the selection paragraph says it all:

Sponsor will, in its sole discretion, then select three (3) winners from the list of eligible potential winners on the basis of criteria determined and applied by Sponsor to provide for an appropriate range of views, backgrounds, and interests among the winners selected.

You have to wonder what is considered “an appropriate range of views, backgrounds and interests?” No further details are offered to clarify. But one doubts that anyone who is not in lockstep with the campaign would be granted this kind of access.

If you are interested in experiencing a dinner with the president, but doubt that you could pass the White House sniff-test (background check) or would be considered to have the “appropriate views, background and interests,“ we offer a little video from the last ”Dinner with Barack”:

Where do you stand on this “promotion?” Is it a lottery or just a clever idea to raise campaign funds?

Update:

Before the stroke of midnight on New Years Eve, two more solicitations to enter the Dinner Lottery hit my e-mail In box.

At 6:00pm, Julianna Smoot wrote to remind me that I only had six hours left to “throw my name in the hat.”

And just after 9pm, a generic email from the campaign announcing – “If you’re out celebrating and away from your computer, you should know that we’ve made it incredibly easy for you — or anyone you’re with — to make a donation from your mobile device.”

(I must admit that the seating chart ignited my imagination and made me consider donating $3. It’s like buying a lottery ticket when the jackpot gets to be so large that the amount of money would be life changing. Full disclosure — despite having already passed a White House background check as recently as June 2009,  I resisted the temptation.)

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  • sjohn70037
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:41pm

    First place prize is a dinner with Barry. Second place prize is two dinners with Barry.

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    • quiltgal
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 7:29pm

      L.O.L. Good one.

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:33pm

      I realize liberals and communists are mentally impaired, but has anyone actually given any thought to what that obamination logo represents? It’s the representation of the sun setting, not rising on the United States. In islimic cult worship it symbolizes the rebirth of the sun god allah, which would be represented by the new star (sun god) of islime behind them (and why that star isn’t present on the logo) on the East as America sets in the west and they rise to world power.

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    • certified ethical hacker
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:20pm

      And he still (like a true democrap) sticks you with the tab

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 1:25am

      Hmm…wouldn’t it be ironic, if the winner sits down with the Fuhrer for dinner, and it turns out he is wearing a suicide vest?

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    • postal16
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 2:00pm

      I was about to enter. Once I realized it required a donation, I declined. I sent them an e-mail letting them know how tacky I thought this was. The lowest donation was ONLY $5. Five dollars to have dinner with the Obamas. I believe it was $5 donations that made a big difference in his campaign contributions in his first election. Who doesn’t want to have dinner with the 1st Black President?!!

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    • OniKaze
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 3:42pm

      @Postal16

      I for one would not…. I would rather willingly seclude myself in a cave with only bread and water for 5 years, than to waste 5 minutes of my life in the room with the egotistical/socialist moron, and his arrogant and unsatisfied brute of a wife…..

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    • getalong
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Let‘s see that’s 50 background checks. Who pays for the background checks – the taxpayers? Thanks, but no thanks!

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  • NILAP
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:41pm

    Obama has that family image. Look at Ron Paul and then look at Rick Santorum. Rick has a great looking family and he has no skeletons and is squeaky clean. And like Romney is boring. And that is good. The focus must be on Obama and his policies and not stuff that the Republican nominee has said or written in the past as well as personal failings.

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    • Wolf
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 11:06pm

      The Turd has a family image? What family would that be? The one that is so tired of being near him they can’t leave for vacations with him? Or the family that doesn’t let him have a McBungler at home, yet is soooo fond of telling others how they should eat? Or the family that is only proud of his country when he’s destroying it?
      I could go on, but you‘re so far in your fifth point of contact you couldn’t understand anyway.

       
    • Cosmos102
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 11:50pm

      I agree, NILAP. Republicans have got to focus on Obama’s policies and stop fighting each other. I’m so sick of the stupid attacks by Republicans against our own candidates. This is the most important election in our life time. America can not sustain another 4 years of an Obama presidency. There is nothing more important than making sure this guy does not get reelected.

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    • Bakko Bomma
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 12:00am

      I wouldnt give 2 cents to be anywhere near them.

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 1:16am

      Obama’s campaign needs thousands of credit card numbers. All contributions less than $100 don’t need to be reported to the Federal Election Commission. The campaign finance people will add illegal campaign contributions to get the total on each credit card up to the limit. This type of fraud is called phishing.

      In the 2008 election, foreigners were buying Visa Cash Cards in bulk. There was a small army of people donating to Obama’s campaign using the Cash Cards and addresses supplied by ACORN. Many of the Cash Cards were in the local currency so there were contributions such as $98.03, 97.88 after the currency conversion.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 2:13am

      Only idiots fall for this crap. The same idiots who voted for him the first time around. He’s a disgrace to every single American who has ever lived and loved their country.

      Barack & Michelle will go down in history as the lowest filth ever to get elected illegally.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 3:27am

      “IS” it a lottery? Well, duh!

      People thought B.J.Clinton and Al Girl had questionable fund raising events. obama “IS” the king of criminal fund raising. The real story won’t make news until its all over.

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:34am

      Stop The Presses!
      Happy New Year from Uncle Omar!
      Yes, it’s the president’s beloved Uncle Omar, chilling out Friday night at the Chicken Bone in Framingham, the same bar outside of which he was arrested for drunk driving last summer. He’s got a full beard now, but he was easy to spot. The illegal alien fondly known as “Stinky” to the patrons of his workplace, Conti’s Liquors, was by himself, wandering the ginmill, a glass of brown water in his hand. (Read the photographer’s account below). Odd, though, that he wasn’t vacationing with the rest of the family in Hawaii — er, Asia…
      http://howiecarr.us/2011/12/26/stop-the-presses/

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    • loriann12
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:56am

      @Lamarr01

      It’s also called money laundering. If they don’t need to register donations under $100, then for every donation of $3, Soros can add $97 and no one would know.If just 1,000 people give $3, that’s $97,000 that they don’t have to claim. There are a lot of lottery players that think, wow for just $3 I have a chance!

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    • asybot12
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:52am

      @ BAKKO, They could not PAY me enough.

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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:14am

      Thanks @ Larianne….great observation…money laundering!

      $ 3.00 from the lottery player + $ 97.00 from Soros & Fat Cat Democrats
      All for the campaign fund…with a glorious 97% not reported!

      So if a million people send in $3, which is a possibility,
      $97,000,000…..can go to his campaign….unreported….for free!

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    • Treaty
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:47am

      If Obama gives me $2500 of his own money, flies me 1st class to Hawaii, and pays for my week’s vacation there, then I’d consider having dinner with him. It’d take another $2500 if he wants me to talk – otherwise it’d be a silent dinner.

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  • jarhead69
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:36pm

    for what ? fried chicken and watermellon

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    • ICRedifURBlue
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 6:04pm

      I’m afraid if I sat down with this “Family” Moochele would call me “Bright Eyes”…………………and I’d have to wear a collar……..

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 6:30pm

      LMFAO. You beat me to it. Id rather go to KFC.
      Chitlins, Pigs Feet & Turnip Greens

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    • AMERICA4EVER
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 6:39pm

      I can’t think of anything more boring to do, but to have dinner with Obummer and Moochelle. I’d rather pull out my fingernails with a pliers.

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    • Thomas Paine
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 11:37pm

      You forget, Hes a closet Hodgie.
      It will be roasted goat & fermented camel piss.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:43am

      Sad stereotype.
      The thing is, those are much beloved SOUTHERN FOODS, and with the number of blacks coming from the south, it is only natural they bring their food tastes with them.
      Me? Lilly white (with some American Indian blood), but, I LOOOOOOVE my KFC ! And, at a picnic? Gimme a big slice of watermelon with a saltshaker. No seedless melons, please, and thank you!

      That being said, I think obama prefers arugula.

      Somebody has to speak up when others turn negative. Silence is what got us here.

      “With charity for all. With malice toward none.”

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    • loriann12
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:07am

      @TomFerrari

      OMGosh! Someone else who puts salt on their watermelon? I was raised that way, and my in-laws think it’s so weird. I’m from southern Missouri, but my dad was raised in New Orleans (N’Orlins). We also eat left over rice with sugar on it. Sometimes that was our only dessert. And I couldn’t be any whiter.

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  • TelepromoterNChief
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:34pm

    I dont like the guy or his wife, but I’d still be repectful to the office he holds. You know deep down, those two are sad individuals and they know it.

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  • Nasado
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:32pm

    Hmmm, that is an interesting concept. I would say very creative as well. Now whether it is appropriate to raise campaign money is another question. I think it would be interesting to go. I don‘t like Obama’s policies in the least bit but I would find it interesting to see what kind of person he is. Kind of like hate the sin, love the sinner. He seems to be a good father and husband, sucky leader, but I think I would enjoy meeting Obama the man. Plus, when will you ever get the chance to have dinner with the leader of the free world? At least you would have some good stories for the grandkids.

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 7:29pm

      “Leader of the FREE world”?
      My Freedoms are being taxed EVERY day
      Obummer simply CANNOT QUIT spending (include Congress too)
      We are BROKE and LOSING our freedoms
      Dinner? No thanks

      OMG!!!!

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:32pm

    Cheeseburgers and fries! That will be on the menu. I know Moochelle won’t eat tofu, and B.O. didn’t get that tall eating rice.

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  • Gorp
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:31pm

    The ONLY reason I’d go if I won, which I won’t seeing as I will not give to anything Obama, would be to take a tour of the White House. That would be the interesting part by far.

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    • rambosharley
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:03am

      The 2000 pages of rules and regs stated the dinner is not at the White House! Besides that I don’t think I would be able to sit and look, listen to him or his wife for 2 minutes without requesting a barfbag!

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  • conservativestoner
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:29pm

    i would go.i would eat.i would stick my finger down my throat and “refund” all over them and drop trou as they hauled me off.hey, i think i just wrote one of those “priceless”commercials!

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    • shorething
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 7:02am

      if the prize was giving him a firm kick in the balls (or having a nfl kicker do it for me), i’d blow a months pay on 3 dollar chances. is it just me or are they whoring/pimping the office of the presidency and cheapening it even more than his record already has?

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  • libh8er
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:24pm

    I wonder if they will supply barf bags.

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  • conservativestoner
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:21pm

    can i invite my little friend so they can say hello to it,or abdul and his exploding sweater?

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  • Stoic one
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:19pm

    Past ten days??!?!?!?!?
    I have been receiving those crappy emails ever since i complained on the site attackwatch.com that the potus was a marxist and should resign!

    I find the emails insulting at best.

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  • MeteoricLimbo
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:17pm

    It seems to diminish the office to me.

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  • markdido
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:15pm

    If you win the Lottery AND you have the Powerball number, Joe Biden will park your car!

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  • Look4DBigPicture
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:13pm

    … and you don’t even get a magazine subscription for being bamboozled by this trick!

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  • crackerone
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:04pm

    Right after you sign up you can click on the front page of the blaze “Guaranteed Winner”
    X This is not a Joke
    Congratulations you Won!
    Click here to Claim
    Either that or you will be the lucky 999,999th vistor to this site!

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:04pm

    Well of course he is.. anyone with a brain would realize this.. and it should be stopped.. if I had to sit at the same table and eat with him I would vomit.. My anger runs deep.. and this man has nearly destroyed America.. VOTE HIM OUT!

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  • GREENDOG
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:49pm

    What will be Chewbacca be cooking for the dinner? Fried chicken and red soda pop??

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:45pm

    Uh – who in their right mind would want to have dinner with America’s greatest enemy and his fat, obnoxious, EAT-everything-in-sight woman? Conversation would be painful, and with Big Mo at the table, there wouldn’t be anything but crumbs left to eat. The two most hated people in America today, are not thinking-Americans’ idea of a fun dinner date. Puke.

    Denounce – Defund – Dethrone!

    In 2012, obama and his not-really-proud-of-America woman must go, if we are to survive as a nation!

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  • Teufel Hunden
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:40pm

    I wonder if they offer barf bags. ’cause I can’t imagine sitting through a meal with Barry and Mo without puking.

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    • HumbleMan
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 7:24pm

      Face it, none of us who are here would pass a background check (excepting the trolls). Like you guys, I’d rather have an acid enema than sit down to eat dinner with B&M.

      Just chuckled to myself … of all people to insist on a background check. Not enough of the American people know about these people’s backgrounds.

      When did it become OK to be a communist?

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    • jackbauer
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 7:50pm

      Yes, I have two questions. Can I insist on a background check on Barry and Moochelle and will Barry be eating with a socialist fork?

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    • rox
      Posted on January 1, 2012 at 2:17am

      I would love to go. I’m afraid the first two sentances out of my mouth would get me thrown out.

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    • Dr. Joel Fleischman
      Posted on January 2, 2012 at 2:39pm

      TOKYOROSE1960 (aka DESERTROSE1960) will be first in line to “polish his knob”.

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  • VoteRightDammit
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:35pm

    Stupid article.

    “Dinner” with the Perv-In-Chief isn’t the prize.

    Buy a ticket (i.e., send in a ‘contribution’) and get a chance for a Solyndra-esque payoff! Far better odds than any lottery!

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:26pm

    The way I see it there will be three hundred million losers in this scam…and the biggest losers will be the ones who have to have dinner with Mr. and Mrs.Marxist.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Indeed this is a massive farce and fraud. The winner has most likely already been determined ahead of time to be one of his biggest leftist supporters.

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    • Countrygirl1362
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:40pm

      If I had to sit at the table with those 2, it would be a night they would remember. I would most likely puke all over the table from just being with them. I can think of a lot of people I would like to dine with and those two do not even come close to making the list.

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  • jpschaeffer
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:25pm

    What a scam!

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    • NancyBee
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 8:33pm

      absolutely ………..and you have to pay taxes….what a farce!

      Report Post » NancyBee  
  • NHwinter
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:21pm

    Is this similar to selling overnights in the Lincoln bedroom? What they won’t do to get money, money, money.

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:20pm

    it’s not a lottery they are donating anyway

    Report Post » Steelhead  
    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:34pm

      If there is a “prize” .. it is a lottery.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:40pm

      Lucky for you Steelhead, it is a BYOCP party. Bring your own crack pipe! We know you got one, and B O ain’t sharing!

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  • AB5r
    Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:20pm

    If any of you conservatives won that dinner would you (politely) confront Obama on any serious issues at the meal or would you just be respectful of the office and **** **** about sports and other meaningless things? Seems like it would be a once in a lifetime chance to really nail him on a few big issues, or would he cut it short and leave if things got too tough?

    Report Post » AB5r  
    • jpschaeffer
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Whats it to you LIBERAL

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    • AB5r
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:38pm

      Actually I don’t care what you would do, hopefully you would make some sort of crazy move and the secret service would blow you away.

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    • Pink Elephant
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 4:45pm

      AB5R,

      Grow up

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    • AB5r
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 5:18pm

      What do you mean grow up? The words from the asterisk are c-h-i-t c-h-a-t, hardly profane or childish.

      Report Post » AB5r  
    • teapartyconservatism
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 6:04pm

      Obama’s birth certificate and social security number are alleged to be fraudulent by numerous experts. However even if the alleged fraud had gone unnoticed and it’s assumed Obama was born in HI, he is still not Constitutionally eligible.

      Our Constitution, Art. 2, Sec. 1, requires the president to be a natural born citizen. This involves two critical prerequisites; birth in the USA, to US citizen parents. Obama is ineligible for failing to have TWO US citizen parents!

      This is confirmed by a logical reading of the Constitution; the 3rd Congress, “An act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization; and to repeal the act heretofore passed on that subject,” 1/29/1795; 14th Amendment framer Rep. John Bingham; Supreme Court rulings; Senate Res. 511, 4/3/08; expert opinion of founding dean of the College of Law and Government at Regent University, trial attorney and special assistant U.S. attorney at the Dept. of Justice, constitutional scholar and 30 year professor of constitutional law, Harvard graduate Dr. Herbert W. Titus; field grade military officers such as Major General Paul Vallely, U.S. Army, Ret., Col. Lawrence Sellin Ph.D., U.S. Army, Ret., former U.S. Army Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, MD.; Dr. Alan Keyes, US Ambassador, Ret.; and a host of concerned attorney’s such as Leo Donofrio, JD., Esq., Mario Apuzzo, JD., Esq., Dr. Orly Taitz, DDS., JD., Esq.

      See http://www.obamabirthcertificate.net for additional details.

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    • SurhanSurhan
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 8:05pm

      @ TEAPARTYCONSERVATISM
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 6:04pm
      Obama’s birth certificate and social security number are alleged to be fraudulent by numerous experts. However even if the alleged fraud had gone unnoticed and it’s assumed Obama was born in HI, he is still not Constitutionally eligible.
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      There’s no reason to believe the birth certificate that Barack released is fraudulent. No president has ever released their social security number. If someone is claiming to have Barack’s SSN they are liars.

      Barack is a US citizen. It doesn’t matter if you call him a natural born citizen or US citizen. He’s still a citizen. The Constitution says if one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is a naturalized citizen and a baby is born outside of the US the baby is a US citizen as long as one parent has lived in the US for at least one year. We know Barack’s mother lived in Hawaii and his dad is Kenyon-American. Even if Barack was born in Kenya or Indonesia, as long as one of his parents had lived in the US for at least one year (his mother) he is a natural born citizen.

      It’s time for America to let this birther issue go. This birther issue is like the story of the big fish that got away. It just doesn’t work anymore.

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    • teapartyconservatism
      Posted on December 31, 2011 at 11:25pm

      @SurhanSurhan

      There are two kinds of people in this world, those with facts and those with opinions. You have proffered an opinion easily refuted by the facts presented and referenced but which you chose to ignore. Not surprisingly your politically biased ignorant opinion is absolutely worthless.

      Your disrespect of the Constitution and therefore the right of free speech permitting you to publicly display the extent of your ignorance, is essentially an act of self destruction for an American citizen. Americans value their liberty much more than you seem to. Indeed, it’s doubtful you are an American based on your obvious disdain for truth, justice and the American way.

      Your oppressive presumptuous manner and abhorrent moniker suggest that you appreciate Obama wishes to destroy America as much as you do, and most likely your limited experience with real Americans was gained on your knees holding a white flag in the presence of a member of the U.S. military.

      Perhaps you should be counting your blessings for the mercy you received, rather than posting inane anti-American dishonest drivel.

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