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Is Rand Paul Backing Away from Anti-Earmark Pledge?

The modern-day tea party movement has prided itself on its conservative values and efforts to shrink government, cut wasteful spending and for ousting politicians who seemed to have neglected their values and sold-out to political interests in Washington. It came as a big surprise for many, then, when tea party-favorite Senator-elect Rand Paul, R-Ky., suggested over the weekend that he’d be vying for earmarks to bring home to his new Kentucky constituents.

During his hard-fought campaign for the Senate, Paul pledged to support a ban on earmarks. From his campaign website:

Rand Paul has made a ban on wasteful earmark spending in Washington D.C. one of the key points of his campaign. He has supported Sen. Jim DeMint’s vocal support for an earmark ban and he supports news that House Democrats are even coming around on the idea of a partial ban.

But in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, seemed to backtrack on this promise:

In a bigger shift from his campaign pledge to end earmarks, he tells me that they are a bad “symbol” of easy spending but that he will fight for Kentucky’s share of earmarks and federal pork, as long as it’s doled out transparently at the committee level and not parachuted in in the dead of night. “I will advocate for Kentucky’s interests,” he says.

Conservatives and tea partiers are no wondering: is Rand Paul backing away from his anti-earmark pledge?

National Review’s Veronique de Rugy asked Monday, “Is Rand Paul already selling out?”

I am fully aware that the issue of earmarks is a very symbolic one. Getting rid of earmarks won’t save us from the current debt explosion, nor is it likely to end the spending; it will just leave the decision in the hands of the agencies rather than selected lawmakers. Still, I could imagine that when a legislator submits his earmark request, the appropriations committee, at least sometimes, increases the overall budget for the agency by the amount of the earmark.

So is Rand Paul changing his tune?  Did he misspeak?  Or did the Wall Street Journal misinterpret his comments?  After all, Paul also told ABC News’ Christiane Amanpour this past weekend, “No more earmarks.”

Is Rand Paul Backing Away from Anti Earmark Pledge?

PAUL: No — no more earmarks.

AMANPOUR: No more? Not even in your state?

PAUL: No. No. But I do tell people within Kentucky is I say, look, I will argue within the committee process for things that are good for Kentucky that they want and also within the context of a balanced budget. Here’s what happens. You go to the Transportation Committee and they say, “What do you want?” But it should be, “How much do we have?” No one asks, “How much do we have?” So we just spend it. And then, at the end of the day, if we don’t have it, we either print it or borrow it. Those are bad things. There is no restraint, but that’s why you need rules.

What do you think?  Is Rand Paul really abandoning is tea party anti-earmark roots?

Update: Appearing on CNN Tuesday afternoon, Paul reiterated his opposition to earmarking, saying he would not use them as a U.S. Senator.

Comments (79)

  • Sunnyr
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:40pm

    Jamestown
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:11pm
    Semantics….this is UNBELIEVABLE….STAND IN FRONT OF THIS POS AND KNOCK HIS LIGHTS OUT

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    You need to listen to Rand Paul instead of trying to sound like a rabid dog!

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  • Jamestown
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:40pm

    Some how every single notion of the elected SHOULD have been disclosed…did he clarify what earmarked money does to a deficit…YES…then accountability means nothing….or will we the people say…its ok this time…THIS IS AROGANCE…UNFORGIVABLE AROGANCE

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    • coryf
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 1:29pm

      Forget arrogance Jamestown. You seem to be just plain ignorant. And it is not just semantics. Language means something and definitions are important. I am not lock step with Rand Paul, but if you don’t understand the difference between earmarks and legitimate projects that need to be done for a state and how those are brought forth, then keep out of the conversation. Seek anger management and active listening courses at your local community college.

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  • USAPLISKENXI
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:39pm

    All of you need to check this out, there are 4 parts then tell all of your friends!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9dGHuRExiM

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  • Sunnyr
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:38pm

    Here come the rumors! Rand Paul is against all earmarks that are being shoved into big Bills, in the dead of night and without congressional oversignt. An honest, vetted, debated earmark for something sorely needed by a State is a different thing and should be considered by Congress.

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  • Jamestown
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:28pm

    Definitions are used by engineers to excuse the behavior…they knew was wrong the whole time…liars call illegals undocumented…but the crime is then ignored….earmarks are what he campaigned against…but now he calls them a different name….go the hell back to sleep….when you are part of this worthlessness.its an earmark plain and simple andwe see again a liar who got elected..

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  • Ronko
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:24pm

    Who cares about Earmarks their are more important things at stake. What should happen is a limit on how much you can spend on Earmarks thats what should happen. Hopefully Rand’s going to be like his father

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  • troyvar
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:19pm

    K. Here it is, short version.
    Congress appropriates X amount of money (It’s a big number)
    Bills go through committee and are passed. ( X – Combined bills)
    There’s usually some $$$ left
    Congressmen add their pet projects in the dark of night (earmarks) to the bill (no committee/no oversight)

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  • Jamestown
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:18pm

    STRIKE ONE….TWO MORE…OR THROW A FASTBALL BETWEEN HIS EYES

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:17pm

    Rand Paul is a disaster waiting to happen. Sorry, Paul fans, but this guy’s a loose canon and will break your hearts in the end.

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  • Jamestown
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:14pm

    IF IT IS NOT TERMED EARMARK…WHAT THE HELL IS IT…

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  • murmai
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:12pm

    snowleopard3200 do you have a life at all i have never seen a thing on here yet that you havent had at least 3 idiotic posts on my gawd you are a pompous blowhard !!!! get a life

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:04pm

    NO Compromise and NO MORE Earmarks. period.

    {as obama liked to sneer his election at us } … hey, dude, WE THE PEOPLE WON.

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    • Monty
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:39pm

      I second your ‘period’ and add an exclamation!
      HEY!!… It’s your turn to listen, and do the will of the people who put you in office.
      NOT in POWER!

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  • thefljuggalo
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:02pm

    how can anyone take anything negative out of that interview. that man is one hell of a politicion. i really think the only legitimate “tea party” candidate

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  • SaintMichael
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:39pm

    Getting a program through a clear bill that gets debated which will help your state is one thing. Adding an ear markthat is on a totally different subject of the bill being debated is what the problem is.

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  • spendthrift
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:33pm

    Ron and Rand Paul are true Americans, change for the better was elected on 11/2/10.

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  • mrsclark
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:27pm

    Its not that earmarks are bankrupting the country, its that earmarks are used to buy votes! This has to stop!

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  • troyvar
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:27pm

    I always took ‘earmarks’ to mean those hidden pet projects that were tacked onto a bill in the middle of the night. I don’t know of many congressional districts that can afford to foot a billion dollar infrastructure project.
    I guess what I’m thinking is all project spending bills need to go through committee, be stand alone (not attached to any other bill), have the sponsors name on them and also be posted on-line for public discourse before being voted on.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:29pm

      And I believe that is EXACTLY what Dr. Paul was talking about…you do understand his point then!

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  • Exrepublisheep
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:23pm

    Well ,THAT didn’t take long.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:28pm

      You mean the lies and trashing of Rand Paul? It’s on-going, and will continue until he’s out of office! Nothing new there!

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    • GnomeChomsky
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:33pm

      Actually it took less time than you think, read Matt Taibbi’s article and it shows that Paul began falling into step with McConnell and the gang as soon as the primary was over. He went from an anti-war, anti-drug law, anti-earmark libertarian like his father to a run of the mill Republican overnight. To paraphrase the tea party referring to Obama voters…..You get what you vote for. I imagine he wont be the last either, most if not all of the “tea party” elects will soon follow suit.

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    • GOPatheist
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 8:33pm

      Another self serving ego-maniac with no real convictions.

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  • Ernie
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:22pm

    Until the states start managing their own affairs, many of the taxes will go to the federal government. The federal government then has the power of distribution and Rand is simply trying to get as much money as is paid in by the people of Kentucky instead of a portion of it being doled out to subsidize broke states like California and New York. This is also his dad’s position for his constituents in Texas, to my understanding.

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  • JohnnyJT
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:19pm

    Fed Govt gets too much money from US taxpayers. Taxes need to be cut to the Bone.

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  • komponist-ZAH
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:16pm

    Hmmm. Don’t know. On the surface of it, it does seem like he’s breaking a promise. But… Maybe not. After all, eliminating earmarks would not save a lot of money. What it would do is prevent one of the more obvious forms of vote-buying.

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  • ALLWOODTKR
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:14pm

    This is sad. I am amazed by the influencing power of Washington. This shows us how weak Rand Paul’s character is.

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    • Spookytruck
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:55am

      You need to listen to what he is saying and not insert what you think he is saying while he is talking. He is against earmarks. Listen to what he is saying. These reporters are trained to put you on the spot. That is their job. That’s what they get paid for. Figure it out for crying out loud. Rand Paul didn’t say anything different from what he has always said on the campaign trail. I know you think you understood what you thought he said, but do you understand that what you think you thought he said, was not really what he meant to say. LOL!

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  • S_Malc13
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:13pm

    Must we get off to a bad start?

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  • SHOESHINEBOY
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:09pm

    he better not..I have friends over there who worked hard on his election…and no earmarks was a big deal for them

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    • Jamestown
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:11pm

      Semantics….this is UNBELIEVABLE….STAND IN FRONT OF THIS POS AND KNOCK HIS LIGHTS OUT

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:26pm

      Jamestown: You sound like a good union member…..why don’t YOU try to knock his lights out?

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    • Johnnybravo
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:54pm

      fight fight, take it outside or ill knock your light out

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    • PatriotMomof5
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 10:14am

      I think we all need to understand earmarks. Pork laden earmarks are unacceptable. Period! But this TEA Party member is understanding that there may be projects that are needed for certain districts.
      In our mountainous area we suffered greatly from a bark beetle infestation. Due to the eco-environmentalists we were fined heavily if a tree was cut down. Subsequently, there too many trees per acre, not enough water. The beetle took over and destroyed the pine forest. The fear was a fire would potentially wipe out the community of expensive homes and the loss of life could have been catastrophic. We received an earmark to cut down dead pine trees. And now we are encouraged
      to thin our properties- no more penalties. So folks, lets get educated on earmarks and when and where they are appropriate before we totally shut the door on them. Flexibility is critical at this point!

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  • SND97
    Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:08pm

    I’m from Kentucky, this talk about him changing? Not true, I followed him during the race here, he pretty much said the same all through it

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:27pm

      Let his actions speak the truth in the time to come. The people can change his office position to unemployed if needed.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:51pm

      I could see this comming as soon as he said it. He didn’t say pork barrel earmarks. He just said earmarks. The fact is everybody gets earmarks. That’s how we build schools and roads and stuff. I’m sure what he was talking about is the wasteful spending on things like turtle tunnels under the highway. But the Dems will beat him over the head with it. I think he is just trying to clarify his statement now. But it sounds bad to do it now.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 6:51pm

      If I remember correctly, Paul was talking about ending earmarks in general. There was talk of submitting specific projects to the Appropriations Committee, and only ones that showed the most benefit and merit would be chosen. Also, they would have to remain within budget for all appropriations like this. Technically they are not earmarks, they are Federal funding for specific projects. I could be wrong, though – I can’t find where I had originally heard that.

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    • PatriotMomof5
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:30pm

      I was totally against earmarks until I heard about certain ones that were useful. Our Congressman Jerry Lewis was responsible for the very important and useful Drone project. He had to go a round about way in committees to get the project approved. The roads to nowhere, the airports with no passengers, those need to go!

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    • Jaybo
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 7:40pm

      This is exactly what will kill the Tea Party and fiscal conservatism. They promise the moon, they get elected on their promises, then they “redefine” their promises and the same crap keeps on happening.

      Mr. Paul, I hope you seriously reconsider what you appear to be saying. Otherwise you are just another sell out and flipping the bird to the voters that elected you.

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    • jimjonjr
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 8:17pm

      So, wait, Rand Paul didn’t run on getting rid of earmarks?

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    • jimjonjr
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 8:20pm

      So wait, Rand Paul didn’t promise no earmarks? I’m confused.

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    • patriot4all
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 9:06pm

      Like any Tea Party backed candidate–he can lose his office as fast as he got it–IF he forgets himself too much. Now, we need to get rid of more of the establishment Republicans and in my opinion 95% of the Dems. in 2012.

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    • slimster
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 10:37pm

      Rand should run for president with his dad.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on November 9, 2010 at 11:18pm

      SLIMSTER
      I could support a Paul/Paul ticket

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on November 10, 2010 at 8:36am

      An earmark is used to get votes of congress one legislator at a time behind closed doors. If you need 150 votes you give out 150 earmarks. Earmarks are an out and out bribe. What Rand Paul describes is nothing of this kind. He is discussing ordinary committee approved up front legislation where everyone votes at the same time on the same thing. I suspect that we will always see legislation for highways, public works, etc. but no more secret out and out bribes please.

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