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Is Santorum Starting to ‘Catch Fire’ in Iowa?

Is It Santorums Turn Next in Iowa?

(The Blaze/AP) In a presidential campaign marked by sharp rises and falls, Republican Rick Santorum has experienced neither.

“I’m counting on the people of Iowa to catch fire for me,” the former Pennsylvania senator, who described himself as a “strong conviction conservative,” said Thursday during a debate with his rivals. “Iowans are beginning to respond.”

His dogged courting of Iowans the old-fashioned way — campaigning in living rooms, coffee shops and town squares — may be starting to pay off and at just the right time, as Iowa’s Jan. 3 presidential caucuses approach.

“Rick Santorum is the best-kept secret in the campaign,” said Tom Clark, a West Des Moines Republican and one of about 150 people who came to hear the candidate at a suburban Des Moines restaurant this past week. Clark left the event as a Santorum supporter prepared to volunteer for him, despite this concern: “I just don’t know if he can win.”

That worry could be why Santorum remains near the back of the pack in national GOP surveys. He also trails former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Texas Rep. Ron Paul in Iowa even though he has been the most aggressive campaigner in the leadoff caucus state. He’s visited all 99 counties and held 350 campaign events.

Santorum acknowledges that not all gatherings have been as lively as the recent one at the Machine Shed restaurant in Urbandale.

He recalls the September day in quiet Red Oak when exactly one GOP activist, the Guthrie County chairwoman, showed up to meet him. He compared his Iowa effort to his underdog campaign in 1990 for the U.S. House, when he knocked on thousands of doors. He won.

“I’m sort of the guy at the dance, when the girls walk in they sort of walk by, and they take a few turns at the dance hall with the guys that are a little better looking, a little flashier, a little more bling,” he told about 300 Nationwide Insurance employees in Des Moines this past week. “But at the end of the evening, old steady Eddie’s there. He’s the guy you want to bring home to mom and dad.”

Steady is right. Santorum has survived where others have not.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, once viewed as a serious candidate to win the caucuses, and businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa polls in October, have dropped from the race. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and Texas Gov. Rick Perry enjoyed sharp rises in support upon entering the contest, only to plummet later. They’re now trying to claw their way back up.

Santorum’s struggle has been to expand his steady base.

It’s not been easy.

He lacks the national standing of Romney, who ran unsuccessfully for the nomination in 2008, and the grass-roots libertarian-leaning network that’s backing Paul.

But Santorum is a favorite of social conservatives, who count him as a crusader for their causes. A crowd of 1,000 cheered loudly and rose when Santorum was introduced at a Des Moines forum on Thursday sponsored by opponents of abortion rights.

The response was more spontaneous and jubilant than that for Bachmann, Gingrich or Perry, and was a reminder that Santorum was no stranger to this crowd.

A dogged opponent of abortion rights during his two terms in the Senate, Santorum told the audience in the old downtown theater that there was no disconnecting social issues such as marriage and abortion from the economy and other national priorities.

“This country is based on a moral foundation,” Santorum said. “If we don’t get the moral issues right, we will never get the economic or foreign policy issues right.”

It’s that pitch that has Iowans starting to line up behind Santorum.

“He knows what he’s talking about,” said Pat Pederson, a Republican from Adel who attended Santorum’s restaurant event Thursday. “He’s conservative in his policies, but frankly, has a lot to say on the economy and national security.”

Santorum picked up an endorsement this month from a statewide elected official in Iowa, a rarity in this fluid campaign. It came from newly elected Secretary of State Matt Schultz, an up-and-comer in Iowa GOP politics.

Santorum also has also won the support of some evangelical pastors.

Is It Santorums Turn Next in Iowa?One is Cary Gordon, a Sioux City minister who led the effort to oppose the retention of three Iowa Supreme Court judges last year in light of that court’s ruling to allow gay marriage in Iowa. A second is Rev. Terry Amann, from one of the Des Moines area’s most politically active evangelical churches.Santorum isn’t going on TV with campaign advertisements, which is a sign of a thin campaign fundraising account. But a political action committee that is supporting his candidacy but is unaffiliated with the campaign began airing ads this past week.

They could provide lift in a state where a surprisingly strong finish could propel him into the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 10, the next context in the race.

He is poised to surprise in an Iowa campaign where Perry is making a late charge with more than $1 million in advertising in the closing weeks.

“Santorum is all organization. There’s nothing to catapult him,” said John Stineman, who ran Steve Forbes 2000 Iowa campaign. “He has the ability to over-perform, but that‘s all he’s got unless he gets hot, and time is running out.

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  • MrMagoo
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:57pm

    TEA has 3 choices left. Bachman,Santorum or even Perry.Any other and the battle we won in 2010 with winning the House will be a disservice to that great win.Why settle for middle of the road phonies?Or in Paul’s case,a delusional nominee?

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:58pm

      Ooooppppssssssssss.. Do I see “tea” turning from Newt to Santorum?

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:17pm

      We need a miracle. But, being a believer, we could get just what we need.

      I like Santorum & Bachmann best. Vote your gut feeling.

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    • palerider54
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:24pm

      You got that right MRMAGOO, I could vote for any of the three. I would prefer Santorum, but only by a slim edge over Bachmann and Perry. In that order.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:31pm

      frothy is unelectable. Vote for Ron Paul.

      Anarcho Capitalist  
    • MrMagoo
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:48pm

      We have to vote IN FORCE,as in MASSIVE Numbers.2011 will go down in History.Anyone who’s been around since Ronald Reagan was President knows what can BE.UNITED AGAIN.That old USA Constitution and Bill of Rights was written by God fearing geniuses.President Reagan reminded us of all the good things we stand for.
      I despise the Democrat party for what they’ve become.I don’t think America has much more room for TRAITORS.I’m sure of it.But if convincing a Communist to see the ERROR of his/her ways makes for another vote,its worth it. OH YES! I’ll be out there CONVINCING people at the polls.I’ll be doing it every chance I get!

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    • Cause4Liberty
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 9:50pm

      Santorum is catching on fire from the inner anger that Ron Paul is going to be the Nominee.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:45pm

      @MrMagoo – Perry? And you represent the Tea Party? I am disgusted… Your a fake tea party member.

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    • Patrick Henry II
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:08am

      We do not get to choose in KS. We vote for one of the two front runners by the time they get here; either the establishment’s choice of the thorn in their side. I choose the thorn in their side. Of course, this will actually be only the second time we have had that choice. I am amped.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:12am

      I don’t know why you (or the mainstream media) thinks you’re the arbiter of who TEA has left to vote for.

      I’m voting for the most consistent man in the race, Ron Paul.

      His consistency is so steady that its boring to even reiterate.

      Vote for whoever you want. Vote your conscience.

      But never let anyone tell you who you can or cannot vote for.

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    • Libertarian
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:36am

      Sorry I can’t support Santorum, I have to support someone that upholds the constitution and understands free market economics.

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    • Molalla912
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:40am

      9/12 stands for 9 Principls & 12 Values I just dont see that with any of the ones the RNC wants us to support. The time to stand togather for Our values is now. We won’t get a second chance.

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    • young conservative
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:41am

      how is Ron Paul delusional?

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    • VigilantGuardShark
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:42am

      Sen. Santorum HAS been a steady voice for Conservatives, both socially and economically. I like what he has to say, and with Newt declaring himself a Wilsonian Politk, Romney too being too moderate for me, Cain dropped out, Paul being the split personality mad-hatter (I like about half of what he says), M.Bachman having a bit of a fanatical gleam in her eye, and Perry having memory losses, I‘m pleased he’s starting to catch fire. If it were held today, I‘m thinking I’d vote for Santorum. (not that my opinion matters to anyone but me)

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    • americangriffin
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:58am

      great another warmonger. Bush 2.0

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:56am

      There is only one real Tea Candidate, Ron Paul. Paul started the Tea back on Dec.16, 2007, Bachman decided to run under the Tea after seeing the power of the movement last year. She is using the Tea after it became popular for her own ends. Santorum does not have the values of Tea. Neither adhere to the Constitution, small government and Individual Liberty like Paul does. I would say Bachman is Constitutional about 55% and Santorum about 40%. Paul os the only one that is 100% Canstitutionally sound in his values. The only true Tea choice is Ron Paul 2012.

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    • The American People
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:31am

      Ive always been a RIck Santorum Supporter

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:06am

      I like Mr. Santorum, and he would make a great president. We have seen his actions here at home in Pa. and he lives the conseritive life, not just talks it.

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    • Jomil48
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:11am

      @liertarian, Mr. Santorum is from our area of Pennsylvania, and he does uphold the constitution, he a Christain, he is Coseritive, and he is active in his community, he lives it, so get your facts right.

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    • jnobfan
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:57am

      Could have done without the RP crack but your right about everything else. We definetly need RS or MB to have a strong Iowa. Hopefully Perry drops out before SC. Newt is not our guy but at least with him we have some hope unlike Romney who is GB2 lite.
      For all of those people who say Romney can work with the Dems I say forget about it. No way they let that happen. We need strong leadership to ram or agenda through. The pipeline is a great example. IMO we are right and we can do it.

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    • TAXEVERYONE
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:53am

      Agreed they are the only conservatives running. I wish Bachman would stop attacking her fellow candidates. She is still my first choice because she is the only one who marched with us at the 9/12/2009 Rally in Washington.

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    • KTsayz
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:34am

      You gotta be kidding, Magoo! Santorum is one of the angriest men I’ve ever heard speak! And no way to I want him legislating his version of morality. And I don’t want WWIII, and you know that he and Bachmann are chomping at the bit to get that started.
      President Ron Paul 2012 – get used to it!

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 10:44am

      It’s disappointing to see any “Conservative” support Romney or Gingrich, who are so clearly both Progressives.

      It’s scary to see any “Conservative” support Paul, who is so clearly to the Left of Obama when it comes to foreign policy – specifically Iran and Israel.

      I’ve been curious about Santorum. I don’t want another right-wing Progressive telling me what my morality will be through legislation. I do want a Constitutional Conservative to get Government out of business – my personal business and my economics. I’m not sure where Santorum lives on that spectrum.

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    • Onc_RN
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:20am

      This is in reply to TOP_DOWN – Mark Levin has not been supporting Gingrich – He has said clearily, “If the election were held today, I would pull the lever for Santorum or Bachmann.” In fact, Mark has spent quite a bit of time this past week discussing how these two candidates better represent conservative values.

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    • Cause4Liberty
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:24pm

      @joemil “@liertarian, Mr. Santorum is from our area of Pennsylvania, and he does uphold the constitution, he a Christain, he is Coseritive, and he is active in his community, he lives it, so get your facts right”
      —————————————————————————————————————————————

      Sounds like you just described Ron Paul verbatim.

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    • jjoy
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

      Aw… Com’on Beck… We really don’t need the “NEXT STORY” popup to tell us which story to read next…

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:56pm

      @Cause4Liberty…There‘s a good reason Ron Paul hasn’t been elected president during his last two runs … he’s not in the real world. He has great ideas, but no leadership ability to implement those ideas. Can you honestly see him working very well with Congress??? I think not. He’s seen as a stubborn old man with no ability to see other points of view.

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    • jjoy
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:05pm

      @MRMAGOO

      “TEA has 3 choices left. Bachman,Santorum or even Perry.”

      Sorry to have to tell you this Magoo, but perry is a liberal “ringer” just like newt and romney…

      And the TEA Party has many more than 3 choices… For example, they could “field” a 3rd Party candidate… Someone that has a big set of b@lls like Sarah Palin… In fact, any REAL Conservative, instead of another liberal loses like newt, perry, or romney…

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    • Clara88
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 7:37pm

      Wow…Ron Paul’s tea party money bomb is about to hit $4 million

      http://www.dailypaul.com/192852/friday-ron-paul-tea-party-moneybomb-december-16-2011

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    • babylonvi
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 5:13am

      PERRY? He is a Neocon Globalist….and a big spender to boot. In fact, I’m not sure he is even a Republican. Remember how he was Al Gore’s Texas campaign manager?

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    • Look for the truth
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:19am

      since the first debate Santorum has been my Guy
      there is no dirt on this guy and no contradictions to come
      if there was it would have surfaced by now.
      The left hates him the most BY FAR
      so what does that tell you?

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:36am

      Santorum a war monger? This is pure Paulbotism. Santorum an anti-constitutionalist? This is pure Paulbotism. Santorum a George W. Bush 2.0? This is pure Paulbotism. Paulbotism makes wild-eyed accusations that are divorced from reality.

      When Ron Paul is inevitably repudiated by the Republican party, his Messiah complex will kick in, and he will run as an independent, and will assure 4 more years of Obama. Make no mistake–this will be the end game.

      For the primaries, by a 75% majority, we will vote “anyone but Paul.” That is to say, if the nomination comes down to Ron Paul and someone else, we will vote for someone else.

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    • Cause4Liberty
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:16pm

      @Look4DBigPicture… Please Name ONE ‘real world’ accomplishment that the last TWO presidents had? WtF did Bush Jr. ever do!? WtF did Obama ever do!? Nothing! Ron Paul HAS been warning since 1971. He HAS been voting NO to EVERY unconstitutional measure that congress has tried to pass. He fought to get an audit of the FED, and accomplished a partial audit.

      Gringch – Chicken Hawk – studied in France to avoid the draft
      Romney – Chicken Hawk – studied in Paris, lived like a king with maids and bulters, avoided the draft
      Bachman – Chicken Hawk – was an adolescent – IRS TAX Lawyer – God knows we dont need Another lawyer in the WH.
      Santorum – Chicken Hawk – was a kid as well – Lawyer that never served in the military, but promotes WAR.

      PAUL – was DRAFTED and instead JOINED – buck private or officer? He served 5 years as flight surgeon officer in the Air Force – Delievered over 4000+ babies in the ‘private sector’ – tiredlessly fights to have sound money (gold standard) – Oathkeeper – consistent. Has LED the way on the discussion about the Federal Reserve. Has LED the way of the real TEA Party. The only congressman to ever hit a home run during a congressional baseball game (79′). Believes in the God, the Constitution, NON-INTERVENTIONISM, and the free markets.

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    • Cause4Liberty
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:23pm

      @forlinianslip Then you deserve EVERYTHING you inherit. Typical neo-conism, will vote for anyone but paul. Typical Progressive that lets Bill o whiney, levin, hannity, and beck do all your thinking and researching. Just keep letting them push you into whats on the horizon. I’ll vote for the ONLY ELECTABLE candidate running, RON PAUL. No one BUT Paul. and theres are millions whom feel the same way! How do you like them apples?

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    • LeadMetalGuitarist
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 4:48pm

      I completely agree, we truely have only 3 good choices, Bachmann, Santorum, and Perry. As far as the others, they are just playing the game, because they are big govt rinos. And Paul is definitely dilusional! His foreign policy makes me sick. If you dont support Israel and you are still really good on everything else, I dont care I’m not voting for you! Israel is extremely important

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  • CRichardson
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:57pm

    Something is telling my gut to watch out! That Newt and Rick Santorum have a pack going; do I smell Vice Presidency? I think Rick is going to be kept in the race somehow to keep votes from Michele Bachmann and to garner support for Newt from other conservatives. How? By saying positive things about Newt at times during the debates. Just watch! Just found out that Newt’s Celebrity Leaders booking agency represented the former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum. Politicians are slimy, slick especially those that are experts at political posturing. But let’s understand something here. Politics is not fair and wanting it to be so is a big mistake. You’ll lose.

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:16pm

      No, no pact to wiggle in to be VP. Santorum is in it to win it. Currently, as deadlines for filing are fast approaching for the later primaries, the campaign is investing time and energy to qualify. Compare with Huntsman who did not manage to meet the Alabama deadline. He should be dropped from the debates if they don’t meet qualification deadlines.

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  • ktmrider1
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:56pm

    Santorum isnt doing better because he isnt the GOP’s boy. what better reason to vote for Santorum!

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:56pm

      You are absolutely right.. I am so sick of them or the media picking who they want and then the sheep just follow along… we must get a Conservative Christian in the WH.. and I don’t mean a Conservative Progressive like Newt. and I am almost sure that Perry is the same.. Choose wisely my dear citizens.. because the next few years will be horrendous.. and it will not be our new Presidents fault.. it will indeed be Obama’s, granted yes it was a small mess when Bush left.. but Obama has made it into a astonomical mess because of his sheer ignorance and desire to bankrupt our country! God help us!

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    • mydogtippy
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:40pm

      You are right,I have listen to him, and he dozes have a good plan for the counrty,to start more jobs.Forget the rest of them and start pushing to hear more from him in the debates.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Santorum is the medias toy.. They just prefer others. We will all be dead if Santorum is President. He is the biggest war monger we have on stage there.

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    • palerider54
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:14am

      You both are right on the mark. Ignore the media, vote your Christian faith, trust God.

      What ever Santorum or Bachmann might lack, and I am not saying they do lack anything, just if,

      God can more than make up. I would rather have a Christian conservative that God could use for his Glory running our country than the best candidate the worldly GOP can provide.

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    • Br@dley
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:35am

      ARE YOU KIDDING ME? he is the poster boy for the freaking GOP. what have you been smoking?

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:51am

      @palerider54 – Just because they say there Christian your going to believe it? There are plenty of deceivers, just be careful when you choose.

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    • stopthespending
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:21am

      You hit on the head, we must run from the rinos and get some one that is not in the group.

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  • hi
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:50pm

    The only reason I have not supported him is bc I thought he was unelectable. But I guess voting for him is better than writing in Cain.

    I’m voting for Santourm.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:13pm

      I’ve never been in favor of Santorum, but I’m beginning to like him a lot better than the front runners.

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:22pm

      Not voting to pick a winner you vote for who best represents you. If we all turn out and vote my pet rock Rocky could beat Obama, so we should try to nominate the person who best matches our views for the country. Being that none of us take polls or have expansive ground operations in the early states to get a feel for what the people are thinking. We are relying on the media and talking heads to tell us who they think are electable. Which is moronic, the person who gets the most votes wins an election and people can vote for anyone they like, so anyone is electable. If tomorrow everyone said they were going to vote for Santorum, everyone would say he is electable, but people say he is not electable so no one votes for him. That is the problem with trying to pick a winner rather then picking who best matches you. Decide like this, if your one vote could but whomever you vote for in the white house, who would you vote for. If people did that we would elect conservatives and not rinos.

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:29pm

      Decide like this, if your one vote could “put” whomever you vote for in the white house, who would you vote for.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Santorum is what you see and what you get – a good solid, honest conservative who believes in this country, its people, the Constitution, and the American way of life. Definitely a good place to put your support and vote. He can beat Obama!

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    • Christhefarmer
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:59pm

      Since 02 my dream ticket was Santorum and Allen…. I didnt care who was on the top I just knew we needed people like them. FYI I was 20 then. Also I am currently banned from posting on Santorum’s facebook page for insulting his aids :(.

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    • TADTAD
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:03pm

      Damn it, Christhefarmer, stop making sense, buddy. Don‘t you know you can’t do that? Now cease with that kind of activity immediately.

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    • honor007
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:59pm

      I was sad to see Cain go, my gut tells me Santorum is the guy?
      been struggling with this one~

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:26am

      Santorum for Pres. and Bachman for VP!

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  • Collbuzz
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:50pm

    Santorum/Bachman.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:00pm

      Bachmann/Santorum

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    • fancydancy
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:49pm

      Maybe Sarah will come out and tell us as a Tea Party person who we should vote for. Michelle says she is tea party but I still think she jumped the gun on Sarah and though they were friends initially, appearing together at some events, I wonder if that is still true. I like Santorium. It’s time for a big swing to the right after having had the big swing to the left…maybe that will bring a balance to the center eventually.

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    • KrisW1
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 10:44pm

      Bachmann/Santorum.

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:28am

      Either way, Bachman/Santorum Santorum/Bachman. They would make a good team.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 11:08am

      I could go for that combo. However, time the primaries reach Georgia the platter will already been selected for me, thank you MSM and the republican elite.

      Don’t you just love Carl, Peggy, and Billy, know what’s best for us.

      BTW I would vote for a blind maggot before voting for paul.

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Winning Ticket = Santorum/Cain

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  • Bob
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:45pm

    Rick has my vote. He is a true conservative with minimal BS.

    The media cheer leads for the favorite. Do not doubt that Rick can win the White House.

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  • NHABE64
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:42pm

    I like both Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachman. I simply can not understand how Gingrich and Romney who neither do I trust are ahead of Bachman or Santorum. Gingrich should be a historian or school teacher, Romney needs to go home. I believe I could trust both Santorum or Bachman to lead and defend our country. I think Michelle Bachman is a straight shooter, loves American, and could definitely shake up those corrupt politicos in our dirtiest little city (Washington DC). Go Michelle and Rick! God bless you both, please do not give up the good fight, our country’s future depends on it.

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    • GOVT_ABOVE_THE_LAW
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:38pm

      I think both Michelle and Rick need to talk more about ahering to the constitution. That is why they are lagging in the pols and why Paul is gaining support. Everything Paul says is tied back to the constitution. If Michelle and Rick could do that with their positions it would be easy for people to vote for them.

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  • Militvm Xpisti
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:40pm

    Rick Santorum for President

    http://www.ricksantorum.com/

    No Surrender Moneybomb December

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:25pm

      I have been a supporter of Rick from the beginning. He was my Congressman and Senator. If you listen to his ansers (when he was given a chance to speak) his answers were the most substantive next to Newt. And he has none of the persoanal or ideological baggage that Newt has.

      His biggest problem is his defeat in 2006. Three things did him in that year.

      1. Conservatives were still mad at him for playing the loyal party soldier and backing Specter over Toomey. It was against his better judgment. he should have told Bush to stuff it. Toomey is in now and Pennsylvanians can see what a loser Casey Jr has been. He doesn‘t half fill his father’s shoes.

      2. It was a bad year for Republicans anyways. Next year SHOULD be a good one.

      3. He was beating hard the islamist threat when no one it seemed wanted to hear it. Iran is going to be a looming issue next year. I think he will look like Churchill then having consistently been warning about the danger there.

      He could be an excelent nominee.

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  • The Crismil
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:39pm

    Santorum and Bachman are the only two candidates that have been consistently conservative in their careers. My dog could beat Obama in 2012!

    The people of Iowa and New Hampshire need to respond the way the rank and file of the Republican Party did in 1980 and IGNORE the Main Stream Media’s attempts (and sadly I have to include FOX) to use this term “electable”. Get out there and work for and vote for the people who support your values. People who love what our Founders gave us.

    Santorum and Bachman are the only two who demonstrate that love of country and love of the American people on an individual level that I’ve seen. They are the only two who have faith in the American people to rise to what God and our Founders knew we could be. Ron Paul knows it and I think his comments on Leno show that he’s afraid that America is going to wake up to it.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:53pm

      Or: Ron Paul knows what fakes they are.

      But hey! You want to keep listening to those who support the NDAA, you go right ahead. Everything will magically fix itself if anybody but Obama is in that White House! Right??

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    • The Crismil
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:43pm

      Shane,
      I like a lot about Paul on the economy. But speaking as a vet who has been working terrorism issues for over 20 years, I’ve got to tell you that he is absolutely not the man to be Commander in Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.

      He’d make an excellent Treasury Secretary. I’m making that statement as a sincere compliment. Please take it that way. He has an excellent grasp of the Constitution as relates to what the Federal Government should not be sticking it’s nose into with a number of agencies. But we need more than a one trick pony when it comes to the position of Chief Executive.

      Again, I have no animosity toward him and think he’d be a HUGE asset at Treasury. But he has blinders on when it comes to dealing with thugs.

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  • Vietvet1
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:35pm

    My thoughts…. I am a Veteran and a member of several Veteran Orgs. Every spring, we go to Washington DC with our hat in hand to basically BEG for the funds necessary to keep the VA (Veterans Administration) running. I met with Santorum and he barely had the time of day for us. He humiliated and in the end.. was not a Sen. who helped Vets. It is part of the reason he LOST re-election in our State. No, do what you want but if you show a loathing or disinterest in important Veterans issues… you’ll not get my vote. Not asking anyone to follow me, but will wonder if he gets Veterans backing in his quest. I was asked to give a Vet orgs Endorsement to him and told the national head , I could NOT in good conscience do that. He sent someone else and Santorum still lost. The Org head and I talked and he understands my position. So…have at it…minus my support.

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    • The Crismil
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:44pm

      Just a question: Could you elaborate on how he humiliated you? I‘m a vet myself and when I’m asked to speak I try to give special recognition to Vietnam (especially) and Korean War vets because you guys never got the recognition you deserved when you got home and I feel it was easier for us returning than you. But from what I‘ve seen I can’t see Santorum humiliating anyone. I‘m one of his former constituents and I’d like to know more.

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    • MrMagoo
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:16pm

      For many personal reasons,Vietnam Vets will always hold a special place in my heart,bar none.But I think your wrong about Santorum.And if he’s made some past stupid decisions/votes concerning Vets,then he’ll suffer for it for sure.But when the USA is at stake,I think every thing should be weighed carefully.
      Who is your ideal nominee by the way?

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:37pm

      Santorum’s father worked for the VA, and he grew up on a VA campus. If anyone knows Vets issues, Rick does. Moreover, his time serving on the Senate Armed Services Committee gives him an even more intimate knowledge of Vets’ needs.

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    • TADTAD
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 9:09am

      Yes. Please elaborate regarding Rick’s demeanor with your VA/vet representation. I need to know more about this. Nothing is more important in this country than our military and national defense. Nothing is more important than administering to veterans who have served. When a veteran fulfills his or her contract to the people of the United States of America, the representatives of the people of the United States of America need to make damn sure the the inverse is true. Veterans deserve what is promised, and deserve the very best. If Rick does not believe so, then he has been scratched off my list, leaving only Bachmann. Further, speaking of Bachmann, I don’t know, I’m just not impressed with her demeanor. I cannot be specific about it, but there is something that I do not like…..; how I do miss Ronald Reagan……

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    • The Crismil
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 4:26pm

      TADTAD

      I don‘t think you’ll have to scratch him off of your list. I made the challenge in good confidence that this guy was just throwing stuff out there without expecting to be challenged on it. I’m a Pa. resident and the only battle Santorum didn‘t uphold his end of the bargain on that I’m aware of was siding with Bush on Snarlin Arlin Specter being re-nominated for the Republican Primary. He‘s always spoken highly of our efforts in the military and I’m not familiar with any votes against us.

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  • Mr. Oshawott
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:32pm

    This YouTube video exposes Rick Santorum as a warmonger and how ignorant he is about the history of the U.S. government’s sanctions towards Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhxwJnPbzt4

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:39pm

      For Ron Paul, everyone except Ron Paul is a warmonger. No doubt Paul thinks that the 10 million Buddhists that Islamic extremists have killed over the centuries are themselves to blame for Islamists attacking them.

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  • Baikonur
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:19pm

    Very few would vote for such a strange, radical person. I would not.

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    • MrMagoo
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Anybody can read your posts.Your a progressive.Of course you don’t like Santorum.What a surprise.NOT.

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:46am

      Santorum is as mainstream small town middle-America as you get. He’s all about faith, family, patriotism, and the American way. Nothing radical about him unless you look at him from an extremist position. It‘s his house and with his family where you’d want your kids to hang out. There’s a reason why he rose to the 3rd ranking member of the US Senate at the young age of 43–because his fellow Senators trusted him.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:17pm

    Please folks – whomever the nominee is vote for him/her
    Anyone but our current socialist – get over any false pride you may have – please!

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:43pm

      Agreed. Vote for the Republican nominee. When asked in the other debate if they’d support the nominee, everyone said yes, except Ron Paul. When Republicans reject Paul, his Messiah complex will kick in and he will probably run as an independent, thus guaranteeing another 4 more years to Obama.

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  • countryfirst
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:17pm

    One vote fron Rick here.

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  • TheCalvinistPastor
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:14pm

    Ron Paul Money Bomb 3,457,034.15!!!!

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:09pm

    RINO lite….

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    • lukerw
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Him or Bachmann… all the rest are Progressives… except Paul, who is a Libertian / Anarchist / Left of Obama mix!

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    • helicop
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:24pm

      @baddoggy
      Who do you like? Not only among the current candidates, but overall. Don’t say Paul because he is not conservative on foreign policy and national defense.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Luke…Paul is so far left of Obama he is 1000% right of him and all others on foriegn policy. The ONLY true Constitutionalist in the running.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:44pm

      @Helicop: How is it “not conservative”, to hold the position that we don’t stick our noses into how other nations run and or defend themselves?

      I thought conservatism was about having a government that would keep itself focused on defending OUR borders, and maintaining OUR liberties.

      Isn’t it in fact, RADICAL, to think that we should be telling other nations how to run their foreign affairs, while we bathe them in our tax payer STOLEN money, given away by those who run our nation?

      And what do we get for the policy that we’ve held?

      Do they like us? Or has it made them hate us more?

      Did Israel need us to save them back in 1967, when they were assaulted on all sides, by 5 NATIONS?

      When Israel bombed Iraq’s nuclear program, the ENTIRE UNITED STATES SENATE VOTED TO CONDEMN THEIR ACTION. (Except for Ron Paul, who contended that it was NOT OUR BUSINESS TO TELL ISRAEL THEY COULDN’T DEFEND THEMSELVES.)

      So Ron Paul stands up and says, “why are we putting our arm into a bees nest, when there is no clear threat to the the homeland?”, and many of you say that he’s “RADICAL.”

      Here are a few questions for you to ponder:

      Why is our military being used to defend the opium market in Afghanistan?

      Why is it that we help to install brutal dictators to the nations of the middle east, and why is it that we wonder why their people are rebelling, and blame us?

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:48pm

      Do you believe the words of those who led us into Iraq on trumped up WMD charges, when the same people now tell us to believe that Iran will have nukes at some date that is ALWAYS, weeks or months away?

      It’s been what, over a decade of us being told that Iran will have a nuke that can strike the US mainland, right?

      Nobody is saying that Iran should just have a free pass. Ron Paul just wants to make sure that we don’t entangle ourselves in yet ANOTHER war, that has truly nothing to do with us.

      Let Israel be Israel, and not the 51st state.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:19pm

      Helicop….Why not Ron Paul? You need to wake up and smell the coffee man. The only true conservative in the race. Just because you want to fight the world does not make his foriegn policy wrong! What would the Foundinf Fathers do? Think!!!

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    • GOVT_ABOVE_THE_LAW
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:43pm

      Michelle and Rick could both move themselves way up in the pols by adopting some of the positions Ron Paul has minus the foreign policy that everyone who doesn’t like Paul says bothers them. Take his positions on all of the big issues except foreign policy and you have a contender. How hard is that to see.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:01pm

      I see only one, who will follow the Constitution, in this pack.

      Ron Paul Rocks

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:00am

      BADDOGGY What would the founding fathers do? Perhaps Paul forgets America’s 1801-05 war with the Islamic terrorists known as the Barbary Pirates? Paul’s interpretation of American history is false. This writer explained in “The Colonial War against Islam”: Apparently Paul & his supporters choose to remember only the parts of American history which benefit their arguments.
      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=758

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    • Norm D. Plume
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 5:04am

      @REPUBLICORP:

      Perhaps you forget that Jefferson obtained letters of Marque and Reprisal from the Congress, before sending our Navy against the Barbary pirates? That he acted in accordance with the Constitution? Have you any evidence that, faced with a similar situation, Paul would not do likewise?

      I guarantee you, if the Congress formally declared a State of War, Paul would execute that war ruthlessly, and leave our enemies in a shambles — and then NOT rebuild them!

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  • Boomernoodle
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:07pm

    I‘ve been watching the debates and looking at track records and for me it’s between Romney and Santorum. All I’m looking for in a candidate is one that I can agree with at least 75% with and Santorum is the only one with a strong track record. Some issues I don’t agree with but like I said…75%.

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    • 1bambam
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:13pm

      75% I like that benchmark the more I see/hear Rick Santorum the more I like him …

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  • TheCalvinistPastor
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:04pm

    No thanks. Ill vote for Ron Paul

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  • CatB
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:58pm

    Rick Santorum No Surrender Money Bomb….

    http://www.ricksantorum.com/

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  • smorningstar
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:55pm

    I have always liked him. Im gonna vote for him

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  • blue_sky
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:51pm

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    • CONNIPTION FITZ
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:06pm

      No way, jose’

      Santorum, Bachmann, Perry or Gingrich.

      Paul lost my vote with last night’s childishness.

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    • blue_sky
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:18pm

      @CONNIPTION FITZ, why to lie like a socialist? You (as a typical neo-con) never considered Ron Paul. Your pretense underlines your character.

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    • Shane74
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:52pm

      For the record, “I was going to vote for _____, before ______ happened”, isn’t going to trick anybody where Ron Paul is concerned. You either want to defend the constitution from the inevitable, or you don’t.

      A vote for anybody else, is a vote to allow the traitors who voted for the NDAA to run amok. (While they tell us about their tea party values, which NEWSFLASH: they’re lying.)

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 7:01pm

      “defend the Constitiution” … Paul suporter speak for “legalize my drugs”

      TEA!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 11:37pm

      @CATB and you were such an avid Cain supporter..guess you didn’t trust his judgment in throwing his support to Ron Paul huh?

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 2:58am

      @CONNIPTION FITZ – I guess you don’t realize we are 15 trillion in debt and you expect to go bombing? Don’t you realize war cost lots and lots of money.We attack Iran, it will cost us WWIII. Are you ready for that? I sure don’t want to go through that.

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  • BlesstheJews
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:48pm

    May I be the first to say, I hope he catches fire. Newt, Romney and Tin Foil Hat wearing Ron Paul disgust me.

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    • Brooke Lorren
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:17pm

      I agree. Santorum seems as boring as snot, IMO, but Romney is a RINO that seems like a plastic Ken doll, Gingrinch is a “Wilsonian Progressive”, and Ron Paul won’t support Israel. That doesn’t leave too many choices.

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    • PoliticiansRCrooks
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 3:00am

      I guess nobody listen to Netanyahu. I guess you really don’t understand what Jews really want.

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:25pm

      @Brooke Lorren…Boring isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Ronald Reagan’s favorite president was Calvin Coolidge, who was very quiet and unassuming (and probably viewed by many as dull or boring.)

      I’ve seen Santorum in interviews, and he’s a very likable guy when given the opportunity to show his personality. He gets frustrated during debates, because he’s given little time and is often cut off by moderators. He may not be the right candidate in the end … but we‘ll never know if we don’t get a chance to know him better. The media needs to give us that opportunity.

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    • Churchill
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:47am

      Brooke Lorren: “Ron Paul won’t support Israel”. So basically you’re voting for whoever is going to support Israel, not who’s gunna fix the US? Why don’t you neo-cons just move to Israel and leave this country to the real patriots?

      Conservatives = USA first and foremost!!

      Neo-cons = Israel before USA everytime. Neo-cons are traitors!

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  • PABlackie
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:47pm

    He may be cathing fire in Iowa but he was my Senator in PA. I could not vote for him as Pres. Yes I am a concertive but he does not represent me or my views and can, has and will again, go off the deepend on personal issues that a Pres. shouldn’t be involved in just like Obama. Sorry Rick, but its a NO GO from here.

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    • flyoverbob
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:21pm

      OK whats a consertive?If you cant spell it I doubt you are

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    • Average_Joseph
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:30pm

      You’re right PABlackie; Robert Casey Redux has done so much more for Pennsylvania than Rick Santorum (please note the sarcasm). As a true Pennsylvanian who takes the time to spell correctly, I would vote for Rick Santorum in a heartbeat! He is smart, personable, honest and a true conservative. He or Michelle Bachmann has my vote and I have donated to both campaigns.

      As for the Ron Paul fanatics, please listen to the man. He is not in touch with reality. If he was part of your family, he would be the crazy uncle at the end of the dinner table. He is the most dangerous candidate that is running. I would sooner vote for Newt Gingrich before voting for Dr. Paul. His ideas and thoughts may be correct about financial issues but he is way, way off base with foreign policy. He is not living in the present. In a perfect world his thoughts would have merit but in the real world those same thoughts are DANGEROUS.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 5:14pm

      @Average Joseph

      “His (Ron Paul’s) ideas and thoughts may be correct about financial issues, but he is way, way off base with foreign policy.”

      Last time I’ve read the Constitution, it NEVER mentioned the idea of allowing the government to use the military as the world’s police force. Besides, I’m getting sick and tired of seeing our troops returning home dead inside a coffin or alive with their bodies deformed and/or limbs missing and innocent civilians slaughtered. In addition to that, we CAN’T keep funding these wars, as we’re more than $15 TRILLION IN THE FINANCIAL BLACK HOLE. So, in reality, it‘s YOU that’s “way, way off base.”

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    • Average_Joseph
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:01pm

      Mr. Oshawott, we have enemies that have sworn to kill us. These are not nations that worry about mutual destruction; these are zealots who believe dying to destroy those who disagree with them is a noble cause. These are not rational people but Dr. Paul wants us to sit down and reason with them. You cannot reason with the unreasonable! You cannot deal in good faith with those who do not believe in good faith. Time for you and all the Ron Paul zealots to deal with reality. Or do you believe as Ron Paul stated in the latest debate, that their actions are our fault?

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:16pm

      @Average Joseph

      “Time for you Ron Paul zealots to deal with reality.”

      No, it’s time for YOU NEO-CONSERVATIVES to deal with the reality that endless warfare will only make other countries exercise perpetual hatred towards the U.S. and submerge us deeper in red ink until we’re all out of money. It’s time to bring our troops home from the Middle East and let them have their sovereignty back. If we just let the countries maintain their soverignty, they’ll be more friendly. Should any country attack the U.S. directly, the President can seek Congress for approval and once war has been declared, our military can wreak havoc on that country, and then immediately return straight home.

      “Or, do you believe that as Ron Paul stated in the last debate, that their actions are our fault?”

      I think Ron Paul was saying that it was the U.S. government‘s invasive actions that provoked the Middle East’s negative reaction, so, it seems that you’ve taken his statement out of context.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 1:20am

      MR. OSHAWOTT just for you
      http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=758

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:47pm

      @Mr. Oshawott…Our Founding Fathers never anticipated the Middle East becoming such a danger to America, because they had no idea how technology would be so influential across the oceans. These Islamic countries believe in the return of a caliphate and the Western (USA) way of life will be eradicated from the earth. Dr. Paul tends to ignore history and wear blinders with regard to this caliphate crusade.

      http://ztruth.typepad.com/ztruth/history-of-the-crusades.html

      Had America been isolationists, we might not be in this mess. But there‘s too much water under the bridge to turn back and pretend the water’s not there now.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:46pm

    i like santorum…………curious as to why he isnt doing better ……….

    oh wait, i forgot , its the media

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on December 18, 2011 at 12:51pm

      Yep, you’re right … the media is once again trying to select our president for us. Even FoxNews is becoming more lame stream and less dependable.

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  • Conservative_T-Rex
    Posted on December 17, 2011 at 3:44pm

    I feel like Bachmann and Santorum are the exact same candidate. They should play rock, paper, scissor to see who drops out….. best of 7 of course. That way true conservatives would have one candidate to vote for.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 4:06pm

      Or maybe team up?

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:49pm

      Santorum has so much more experience and so much more success in getting his legislation through. Bachmann is awesome in many respects–you can’t hold her views. But the best thing that you can say about her is that she holds an opinion.

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    • forlinianslip
      Posted on December 17, 2011 at 6:50pm

      Correction: “you can’t hold anything against her views” –a compliment to Bachmann.

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