Is Santorum the Most Effective GOP Candidate at Articulating His Christian Faith?
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TULSA, Okla. (The Blaze/AP) — Rick Santorum stirs his ever-growing crowds when he promises to right a country awash in “immoral debt” and to replace an administration he argues has “callousness toward life and family and faith.”
(Related: Why Were Pastors ‘Laying Hands’ on Rick Santorum in TX?)
Of the GOP presidential hopefuls, Santorum is by far the most public and emphatic about his faith, drawing on his Catholicism and deeply held views on social issues as the foundation of his message. It serves to solidify his standing among religiously motivated voters – and subtly remind them of lingering reservations of opponent Mitt Romney’s spiritual background.
The former Pennsylvania senator is sure to find a receptive audience Friday in Washington, when he addresses the Conservative Political Action Committee’s annual gathering. But those remarks could sound a lot like Santorum’s speeches of late, particularly those delivered in a two-day visit to Bible Belt states of Texas and Oklahoma.
When the GOP field was at its fullest, several candidates were fighting to be the favorite of religious conservative voters. Now, Santorum is moving to consolidate that wing of the party, which could make him a force in places like Alabama, Kansas, Oklahoma and others on the upcoming primary calendar.
On Friday, he said he wanted to stick to substantive issues in the campaign and said he wasn’t inclined to resort to the kind of negative advertising that others have employed so far this year.
Santorum said in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show that he intended to stick to comparisons of his record with that of Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul, saying he wants to discuss things Americans care about, “not this back and forth that we’ve seen” so far.
Santorum said he doesn’t want to try to win the nomination “by personally attacking people.” His Southern swing, which ended Thursday with a stop at Oral Roberts University, followed a stunning three-state sweep Tuesday in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri powered in part by his support among evangelical voters.
Listen to portions of his address at Oral Roberts, below:
At the Christian liberal arts college, Santorum said his GOP competitors don’t seem “particularly comfortable” talking about faith issues like he does.
He welcomed questions about his unbending views against abortion and gay marriage, using the latter to blast a federal appeals court ruling striking down California’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage. He lashed out repeatedly at the Obama administration for a new rule requiring religious schools and hospitals to provide insurance coverage for birth control to their employees.
And Santorum offered a window into his religious underpinnings when a self-identified Democrat asked how his Catholic roots and his opposition to President Barack Obama‘s signature health insurance law were compatible given Pope Benedict XVI’s view that health care is a human right.
“I believe that you have an obligation to approach every issue in public life as I do from the standpoint of both faith and reason. My conscience was formed as a result of my life experience primarily through faith,” Santorum answered. “I bring that to the table. Yes, that’s who I am.”
He added: “I have an obligation not to just look at things that way but also to bring reason. I always think if your faith is true and your reason is right you’ll end up at the same place.”
Gingrich is also Catholic, but social issues aren’t as integral to his campaign. Paul, a Baptist, mentions religion in passing as a way to make a point about liberty.
While some critics claim that worries about Romney’s The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership persist in some segments of the GOP, Blaze analysis shows that the issue has waned significantly when compared to its 2008 campaign impact.
Voters showing up at Santorum events say his willingness to make faith central to his campaign make him more attractive.
“His values are my values,” said Valerie Benton, a retired teacher from Edmond, Okla. “It‘s not like he’s forcing his beliefs on anybody.”
Such empathy shows through when Santorum employs what has become a favorite rhetorical device. He fondly quotes the Declaration of Independence to stress America was a nation founded on faith and its people are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.“ He lowers his own voice when he gets to ”Creator” and his crowds fill it in with gusto.
Santorum scoffs at suggestions that his focus should be elsewhere in a race driven by economic issues. “Strong families and building a strong family unit is good for the economy,” he’ll say.
As the campaign moves on, Santorum shows no signs of altering his message. His first stop after his three-state sweep was a gathering of Texas pastors. They laid their hands on the candidate to pray for his future success and for the continued health of his youngest daughter, who was temporarily hospitalized for a respiratory illness a couple weeks ago.
Santorum told the pastors that he wasn’t running to be pastor in chief, but he suggested that religion needed to play a bigger role in public life.
“You guys could do a little better than you are right now,” Santorum told the pastors.
They erupted in laughter.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:54am“Is Santorum the Most Effective GOP Candidate at Articulating His Christian Faith?” Yes.
And he also seems to be the best candidate at articulating his Conservative ideals.
As a proud Republican… being a team player and voting for our eventual nominee vs Obama is what is truly important. I think Santorum from what I’ve seen and heard, best displays the Conservative ideals that I am looking for in our candidate and best represents our Party as a whole.
I don’t include Ron Paul as part of “our Conservative Republican team” and certainly don’t count his mismash / hodgepodge supporters who have voted for Obama in the past, endorsed (by Ron Paul’s suggestion), Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader for POTUS. Ron Paul support and endorses America’s traitors and enemies here and abroad… not what I‘d say I’m looking for in a candidate.
Rick Santorum is the polar opposite of bi-polar Ron Paul and truly loves America. I’m not sure what the hades Ron Paul truly loves… as he is an enigma to most all patriotic Americans. Ron Paul will throw his support behind and endorse the America hating rabble that rides the fringes, both left and right, in our country… and of course… the America hating countries which is truly disgusting and deplorable.
This guy can’t go away quick enough.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:10amSantorum is not a conservative
video Jerry Doyle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=RTqIIoDALeA#t=0s
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:13amSantorum supported abortion in 1990, then quietly suppressed it
Excerpts from
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_t4cAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3GMEAAAAIBAJ&dq=santorum%20progressive&pg=6015%2C5485825
Oct 28, 1990
Pittsburgh Press
…Santorum who describes himself in his campaign manual as a “progressive conservative” …
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But in fact, Santorum had taken enough of a position that he drew up, in December, a position paper that had to be quietly withdrawn. In that paper, Santorum said, he had limited his opposition to abortion to cover only the time in which a fetus is considered viable – usually taken to mean the final three months of pregnancy – and to public funding of abortions.
martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:14amLets see more anti Paul attacks. In this attack you call him bi polar and claim he endorses “traitors, enemies, and American hating countries”. Can you please link this information for us. You always seem to make claims like this yet you dont back it up with video or audio of Ron Paul saying these things.
People that support Ron Paul attack other candidates with videos and audios of the candidates in their own words or voting records.
Its pretty clear you dont want Dr. Paul as president, but who do you want? Which one of the candidates addresses our out of control spending? Which one of the candidates stands for the Constitution? Which one of the candidates wants us to end the unconstiutional constant war? Which candidate has shown he will not trample on our freedom? There is only one, and you have no attack on the real problems this country has, you focus on his supporters or he is old, or you just make something up.
So I ask, you want to end the Paul campaign? Fine, start backing your statements up with video and audio, until then you are nothing but a lefty protecting Obama from the only man that can give him a run for his money.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:16am2006 Most Corrupt Member of Congress = Santorum
http://www.citizensforethics.org/index.php/press/entry/crew-releases-second-annual-most-corrupt-members-of-congress-report/
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:18amSantorum Was for Romney Before He Was Against Him
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10399-santorum-was-for-romney-before-he-was-against-him
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:20amSantorum Tried to cover up Sen. John Ensigns sex scandle. Family values indeed
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7N6GdgMsGuc#t=0s
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:23amI vetted Obama when he was running with Hilary. I found he was a Muslim and that he consistently voted aganist Israel and only started votiing for Israel once he started running for office. I knew who he was and made the prediction to my boss that he would beat Hilary and become President.. I did not vote for Obama..Ron Paul has voted for Israel’s right to defend herself which no president to my knowlegdge has ever done..Remember when Israel requested permission to bomb Iran and Bush denied them that right when we were invading Iraq? Paul is against giving foreign aide to anyone while we have given twice the foreign aide to Israel’s enemies.. We are broke..why are we giving foreign aid? Is that even Biblically ethical? I do not speak against Santorum’s moral ethics on most things..but on monetary ethics..it looks like “Little Ricky” has been a bad boy.. http://www.realchange.org/santorum.htm
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:25amSantorum “I’ll Cut $5 Trillion In First 100 Days ”
(It’s no wonder no one believes him)
http://www.breitbart.tv/santorum-ill-cut-5-trillion-in-first-100-days/
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:27amSantorum In ‘08: ‘If You’re A Conservative There Really Is Only One Place To Go.. Mitt Romney’
(or Arlen Spector) Jeeeesh!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/rick-santorum-mitt-romney_n_1009725.html?ref=mostpopular
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:28amSantorum: “I want to go to war with China”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/11/santorum-i-want-to-go-to-war-with-china/
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:32amBeck says Santorum wrong about the Federal Reserve
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju7uS7TJiTU
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:33amSantorum stabs friend in back who came for help during Ensign affair!
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/05/16/rick-santorum-and-his-extramarital-affair-assistance-is-it-relevant/#comments
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:34amSantorum: Voting for Medicare Drug Program Was a “Mistake”
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/7245-santorum-voting-for-medicare-drug-program-was-a-mistake
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:35amOn one hand we have Ron Paul the POS.
On the other hand we have Ron Paul who is a broken cuckoo clock, but is right twice per day.
Most common sense Americans see the Ron Paul is a POS part, which makes the couple of things he’s right about good for the discussion…. BUT…. the POS Paul will keep him away from the White House.
I take great pride in presenting the Ron Paul POS side.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:54amIn 1993, Santorum was one of 17 House Republicans who sided with most Democrats to support legislation that prohibited employers from permanently replacing striking employees. -wiki
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:54amConfused where the Bible and Constitution agree?
Read “The Law
by: Frederick Bastiat
Online FREE! http://christianwarmongers.com/?page_id=61
Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) was a French economist, statesman, and author. Mr. Bastiat was studying and explaining each socialist fallacy as it appeared. And he explained how socialism must inevitably degenerate into communism. But most of his countrymen chose to ignore his logic.
The Law is here presented again because the same situation exists in America today as in the France of 1848. The same socialist-communist ideas and plans that were then adopted in France are now sweeping America. The explanations and arguments then advanced against socialism by Mr. Bastiat are — word for word — equally valid today. His ideas deserve a serious hearing.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:57amSantorum, like Romney, will be anything that he thinks you want him to be.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:11amTIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, that makes Paul right 2 more times than you per day.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:22am@time 2 elect Obama again
Again, you make statements with no substance.
Report Post »sonnetswan
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:36am@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12, I think I heard the broken clock comment on Beck’s radio program. You’re either a braindead beckhead or his sidekick Pat. (the guy who enjoys pulling wings off of flies)
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:43amMARTINEZ. I really don’t care what you want to be honest. Your request is denied. I’m a one issue guy when it comes to Ron Paul.
I’m not here for the endless democrats/progressive/liberal/neo-liberal/quasi conservative/fringe left-right/racists/bigots/anti-semite/truther/birther/pacifist/isolationist/ant-war/anti-military/conspiracy theorists/dope-smokers/hard-core druggies/Code-Pink/traiter-loving/America hating/naive/anti-government/anti-authority/anti-law enforcement/libertarian/libertine/militia-loving/KKK/neo-Nazi/White-supremicist in support of Ron Paul.
…vs real Conservatives for Santorum, or the eventual Republican nominee policy debates.
I’ve already seen all I need to make me a believer that Santorum, Gingrich AND even Romney… make Ron Paul look like the Barnum Bailey Circus attraction that he is and always was. Ron Paul is the guy in the tent, the side show… fifty cents-a-pop for a peek at the geek.
I’m not here to to convince you of anything, and you will certainly NOT change my mind. So why would I waste my time in that regard? Because you ask for it? Ha! You are denied. And it’s just because I can…. and it pee‘s off Paul groupies to know end when they’re denied anything they think they deserve… like drugs and the freedom to be chaotic neighbors and A-holes.
MARTINEZ. You are denied.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:48amI think I speak for Democrats across this great land when I say, “Santorum for President!”
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 12:18pmSONNETSWAN. I wouldn’t know… I don’t watch Glenn Beck, or any of the affiliated programs… except for the snippets I see on here.
As far as pulling the wings off flys? I’m not a big supporter of that, but am a supporter of pulling that “freedom and liberty” mask of Ron Paul and focusing in on what most Paul groupies ignore.
There is a good story out there the last couple days regarding one of Paul’s SuperPAC guys… Gary Franchi. I’m not much on MSNBC anything, but this story deserves a look. Just goes to show what loons are attracted to… and support Ron Paul.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 12:30pmSantorum is running on the only thing he’s got. Because intelligence and an understanding of foreign policy, economics, domestic policy (for all citizens) is not evident. Just once he should spend less time on superficial differences and actually speak policy. He just another sound bite empty shell like M. Bachmann.
Report Post »louise
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 1:48pmThis article says:
Santorum told the pastors that he wasn’t running to be pastor in chief, but he suggested that religion needed to play a bigger role in public life.
“You guys could do a little better than you are right now,” Santorum told the pastors.
They erupted in laughter.
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does Santorum (or Romney, or Gingrich) believe that “love your neighbor as yourself” is a wise thing for leaders of governments to promote…?
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 2:01pm@time4chains. What is your definition of conservatism? Christianity? Liberty? The President of the U.S. is suppose to be the leader of all Americans. Dr. Paul attracts individuals from all of America. The love of Liberty is color blind, it is also crosses ALL borders. Dr. Paul is inclusive.
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 3:52pmWow!! The BeckBots are drinking the “Beck-Brew”
Beck has stated he was for Santorum….. shhhh Quietly he says that.
Beck Trashes Newt Gingrich for months
Beck has Santorum on the show to trash Gingrich
Beck says nothing about Romney’s MAJOR flaws
Anyone but a Romney Supporter on the Blaze is~
Paul Bot Crazy
Newt Bot Crazy
but nothing about Santorum because he was down on the list…
Santorum Surprise and LOOKY Heeer!!! The Romney-Aid Drinking BECK-Brewing Folks are out attacking Santorum just like Romney does so well…. and Glenn Fat and Stupid……
Sad to say this but……… IF you are not affiliated with Romney and Beck you need to Drop him all together. It is amazing that the Romney Supporters are just like Obama Supporters. I give you the following caller from Mark Levin’s show yesterday.. This is the Mentality of the Romney Supporter. Simple question, give me 5 reasons to vote for Romney…. I wish Beck could do the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc19Fpe9kpQ
“The Truth” about the Conservative oops!@ the SEVERELY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN ~ Romney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hD4QvMhFUM
Romney like Obama doesn’t run on his record just on negative adds and r-Money.
If you are looking for the truth, it has left the building… Get out before it’s too late.
Report Post »bruce_baker
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 4:20pm“Ron Paul support and endorses America’s traitors and enemies here and abroad… not what I‘d say I’m looking for in a candidate.”
That said against a man who’s only “crime” is belief and faith in the U.S. Constitution, and expecting our government to follow it. Those who laughed when Dr. Paul said that there needs to be “a Golden Rule for Nations” are the same ones who laugh when you say that the New Testament calls for us to “love thy neighbor as thyself”. Nobody ever said it would be easy to do, but does that mean that we just stop trying?
If you DO believe in God, how long do you think He will allow a people who claim He gives them rights and liberty to use their freedom to wallow in filth, corruption and murder? I see the accounting as long overdue, and “if we get out of this with just a whipping, we’ll be lucky!”
Isn’t it a strange coincidence that most politicians shy away from really following the Constitution the same way that most people shy away from really following the Ten Commandments?
Report Post »louise
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 5:27pm@ Bruce…Great post!
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:31pmgod u ronnies wont let up …will ya ……Look hes not a conservative …honestly people are tired of you guys comming on here making something out of nothing……u guys are seriously acting like obama supporters…seriously……u guys believe in a politition over what any body else has to say or the facts that we show.
Report Post »flytrap2001
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:34pmThese RON PAUL people are a little slow aren’t they? RON PAUL is never going to be president or a nominee for president or a vice-president or even “secretary of cleaning the gum off of the bottom of bleachers”. Give it up. I agree with RON PAUL on 90% of his ideas and like him as a human, but he will never be anything but what he is. Santorum is not perfect but compared to the Newt (FDR) Gingrich and Mitt (Ex-Liberal) Romney he is a saint. Shut the heck up and vote for the only real conservative that has a remote chance, morons!!!!!
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:35pmIts funny how most of your guys links come from a website endorsed and contrbuted by ron…..lol
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:55pmGod this is so pathetic…..IF RON IS SOOOOOO GREAT WHY HAS HE STILL NOT WON A CAUCUS OR PRIMARY???????? WHY? WHY DO MOST AMERICANS NOT ALIGN WITH HIM….WHY DOES HE RUN IN EVERY ELECTION AND GO OUT LOSING EVERY TIME?? YOU GUYS SIT HERE AND BASH THATS ALL. AND MOST IF NOT ALL OF YOUR GUYS VIDEOS AND INFORMATION COME FROM THE SOURCE (THE DEAR LEADER). ALL YOU GUYS DO IS BASH ! your dear leader has u so screwed over. its so sad . its funny because you are the guys who now bash beck and call us beck heads and alot of u listened to him a while ago. but as soon as he brought out your dear leader you guys flip **** …thats why i like beck …..he isnt a politician. he shows the worst on both sides and than tells us to make our own decision and to do our own homework. you only liked him when he was showing what the left was all about and now hes showing the other side. Its ur type that got ppl like obama elected …but sinceraly thank you for if u guys were not the fringe we would have a hard time finding the middle of the road.
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:01pm@thejerk
Ya well i dont remember it being ok for a company to fire people because they picket…that mentality is what creates unions and rots the country from the inside out.
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:09pm@glennbc
God u scare me the most ur train of thought is scary. It litteraly makes no sense on how he is out to secretly support mitt when he says that he would endorse santorum….????? wtf ??…seriously ur whole fisod is sad …..ur name and pisture and comments are only to bash glenn….fringe much latly??lol
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:12pmFor days now Time_2_Troll has been posting that Ron Paul endorsed Cynthia Mckinney and Ralph Nader in 2008.
Time_2_Troll is either an outright liar or ignorant. (I suspect both). In 2008, after Paul left the race he publicly endorsed Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin. There was a press conference in which several third party candidates participated in order to expose and protest the rigged electoral process. At this press conference Paul endorsed Baldwin. Here’s proof.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-baldwin-for-president/
In regards to the topic of this story “Is Santorum the Most Effective GOP Candidate at Articulating His Christian Faith?”, I personally have always been offended at politicians who use their faith to pander to the shallowest Christians for their own self-promotion.
Jesus said, “And when you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.” – Matthew 6:5
Ron Paul is a humble, devout, life-long Christian who has made it very clear that he will not use his strong faith for hypocritical self-promotion. I have so much more respect for that type of Christian than the “look-at-me” Christian.
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:21pmBlameless,
You say that Paul is not a conservative but he has been rated as the most conservative in congress for decades. Here is a recent compilation of Santorums big-government voting record. Please read it and then try to explain to us how Santorum is more conservative than Ron Paul. He clearly is not.
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:25pmFlytrap,
Do you understand how the system of acquiring delegates works? This video is from last night’s Freedom Watch. Please watch.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/freedom-watch/index.html#/v/1441576636001/gop-strategist-ron-paul-will-be-on-gop-ticket/?playlist_id=158146
Report Post »cous1933
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:30pmOops, my link for Blameless to review Santorums voting record didn’t paste.
Here it is.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:45pmSo than your not a true christian if u pray in public??? and fyi jesus was talking about the people who pray in public and sit in church but when they leave they dont live it.and on the same context ron has to constantly compare himself to ronald reagan ……wouldnt that also than by ur thought make him nothing like reagan than???….ok and voting record rons…and i didnt get this from his website…thats called real investigating.
http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/296/
Report Post »blamelessace5
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:03pmOk rons voting record……………
Feb. 9, 2012 S 2038 Prohibits Insider Trading by Members of Congress (STOCK Act) Bill Passed – House
(417 – 2) Did Not Vote
Dec. 13, 2011 HR 3630 Reduces Payroll Taxes and Unemployment Benefits Bill Passed – House
(234 – 193) Did Not Vote
Dec. 7, 2011 HR 10 Congressional Approval of Regulations Bill Passed – House
(241 – 184) Yea
Nov. 1, 2011 H Con Res 13 Encourages Display of “In God We Trust” in Public Buildings and Schools Resolution Passed – House
(396 – 9) Did Not Vote
April 8, 2011 H J Res 37 Disapproving FCC Rules Concerning Internet Providers Joint Resolution Passed – House
(240 – 179) Did Not Vote
Dont get me wrong i dont hate the guy theyre are some good things he voted for but alot of these bills here contradict his own words…..so tell me is he lazy or does he not care bc alot of these are seriouse issues. that he chose not to vote either for or against. just saying hes more worried about how he looks than what is moraly right.? and isreal man what is going on with that just dump them off just as we would dump off south korea and all of our providences????…i think thats the biggest issues americans are having.
Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged.
Ronald Reagan
In all of the four wars that i have seen in my lifetime not one was causeed because america was too strong.—ronald reagan
So how come ronald could have a balanced budget and
Report Post »Gryphon Moor
Posted on February 12, 2012 at 8:51pmYou made an important point. In November, regardless of the Republican nominee, we must all unite to vote Obama out of office, the Lord willing.
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Vechorik
Posted on February 13, 2012 at 8:44amRick Santorum’s “Real Concerns” About The Tea Party
“I’ve got some real concerns about this movement in the Republican party, the Tea Party movement, to sort of re-fashion conservatism. And, um, I will vocally and publicly oppose it and do my best to correct the record.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQnoVpkyqc
Report Post »kessi7
Posted on February 14, 2012 at 3:34pmhttp://fathersmind.blogspot.com/#!/2012/02/sarah-palins-cpac-speech-2.html
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:52amSantorum: Do you know him?
Sponsoring FAIR CAIR act to force companies to pay benefits to laid-off workers.
Working with John McCain on campaign finance reform.
Bragging about bringing home federal tax money for clean energy projects.
Working with Bono to spend tax money on poverty in the third world.
Working with Bono to spend tax money on AIDS.
Sponsoring legislation to regulate gas prices.
Authoring the Pet Animal Welfare State Bill. (Huh.)
Voting for record tax funding of Pennsylvania public schools.
Authoring The Care Act: funding for Non Profits.
Working with Joe Lieberman on Working Families Act.
Supported increased tax funding for Chesapeake Bay.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/santorum_the_good_son_not_so_much.html
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:51amSantorum pro-UNION:
“Santorum is target-rich on his shameless support for unions in the past — including unforgiveable minimum wage legislation — which he excuses by his “political realities” in Pennsylvania. Uh, excuse me, Senator? On this issue alone, Santorum’s sanctimonious purity is destroyed. But there’s more. Much more.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/santorum_the_good_son_not_so_much.html
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:12am@Vechorik Here would be the questions I purpose to you and anyone else out there looking at this Presidential election. Which candidate most represents what you believe? Which candidate would work in government the way you feel government should be run? Which candidate has the ability to beat Barrack Hussein Obama..mmm..mmm..mmm? In this election and this election alone for me it is all about my last question and the reason is because of all of my other choices none of them seem to have the blatant disregard and contempt for the Constitution like the man in the White House now. To me there is a distinct difference between someone who is BIG GOVERNMENT and someone who wants to destroy and fundamentally change this country. We did not get to where we are overnight and it is not going to swing back the other way overnight and we are foolish to think it will. We have been BIG GOVERNMENT for a while now. After BIG GOVERNMENT you can move one of two directions smaller government or totalitarianism. Barrack Hussein Obama mmm..mmm..mmm has moved us to a totalitarian government. This is a fight that has been going on for a long time and unfortunately the small government side has been sleeping and not fighting. They have been cowering in the corner because the progressives throws out words and statements like racist, homophobe, they want to kill old people, they want to starve children and so many more because to be for small government means you are those things right? We all need t
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:24amWe all need to wake and accept the fact that this election is not going to bring the next Ronald Reagan, George Washington or Thomas Jefferson! This election is going to move us from the Totalitarian government we have allowed to come to power under Barrack Hussein Obama mmm..mmm..mmm and start to move us back in the direction of small government.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:33am@robin
Well I have to ask you do you think Clinton made things worse? Do you think Bush made things worse? This isnt a party problem. This is a nation problem. Both sides do the same things. Has Obama changed any of Bush’s policies? No, he might have added a few here and there, but overall you could write down polices effects on a piece of paper and couldnt tell one from the other.
This is reason we need someone different. Someone who has gone against the grain for along time. We need a game changer because we are on the brink now. I dont see us having anything left if the American people choose wrong this time.
Everyone bashes Ron Paul supporters for a zeal for our candidate. It is so clear to us, what this country needs and it is painful to watch people you thought were smart and true conservatives like Rush, Glenn, and Sean to just throw away their principles because they are so desperate to get rid of Obama. The problem is that desperation is going to give Obama four more years.
If Obama is elected its because the talking heads have steering the country away from the one candidate that is actually different from Obama. So I will blame Rush, Bill, Sean, Glenn, Mark, and the rest of the so called conservatives for this.
Ron Paul 2012. He is getting my vote even if I have to write his name in.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:41am@ robin
Ron Paul is the closest thing to Thomas Jefferson we have seen since Thomas Jefferson.
Report Post »satostud
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:45amVECHOIK. I have seen all those video’s before. they are all taken out of context (a ron paul tactic) or they are half truth wich means they are half lies.
Report Post »Regardless of who gets elected or re-elected the US as we know it is done. Have you even considered why the usurper in chief seems unconcerened about his re-election campaign? my guess…. he is planning on riots in the streets and a collapse of the US economy so he can suspend elections, unitl HE can fix the issues facing america. Just my thought….. and i’m right. Sorry, i will be happy to admit i am wrong if this election even takes place.
robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:05am@Martinez I thought I was pretty clear but maybe in my rant I wasn’t sometimes that does happen to me when I get going. Anyway, first let me say I am not a Republican and I am not a Democrat I am a very proud Libertarian who believes in personal Freedom and very small government. So to most I am a fiscal and military conservative but a social liberal to try to sum it all up quickly.
Report Post »I did not like George Bush and I agree with you that there are allot of similarities between Bush and Obama. I was one of the few who were screaming at the top of his lungs about the road we are heading down with the patriot act. I am not willing to give up my freedom in order to gain security. Let us look at what has happened since 9/11, the government of both parties has used this as the opportunity to seize more power and control over the people. Every day we read about drones flying over civilian areas, police departments’ getting military grade weapons and surveillance and it is all under the guise of looking for the terrorists, while they watch everything we do. Progressives have spent the last 30 years giving the President more and more power to work around Congress and the Senate and the Constitution. The thing is that both sides love BIG GOVERNMENT as long as it is their guy running it. I don’t get caught up in the sports mentality of my team vs. your team like most Republicans and Democrats do.
The progressives realized a long time ago that you cannot sticker shock people becaus
robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:07amThe progressives realized a long time ago that you cannot sticker shock people because they will shut down and not listen, but if you give it to them in small bites they will eat the entire thing, plate and all. I may want and think that a quick correction in course in necessary but the majority of the American people won’t which is why supporters of Ron Paul get labeled as kooks and wackos because the media can say basically WOW that is EXTREME because it is an abrupt change in course from the direction we have been moving for over the last 60 years. I hope that made sense.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:50amI’m NOT a Ron Paul supporter, but the credit I‘ve given him is that he’s pretty much “what you see is what you get” (although there have been a FEW times I think he’s tried to hide things or back peddle. . .). Well Rick Santorum IS a “what you see is what you get type of guy.” IMO, neither Romney or Gingrich fit that bill. There are too many unknowns with those two–just as we had with Obama. None of the candidates are perfect–none WOULD be. But in my book, Santorum’s the clear best choice of the four.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:51amAw, it seems Santorum is merely pandering to the religious right. I’m tired of people bring religion into everything when its all about a government spot.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:57amSymphonic, if Rick was merely “pandering” to the “religious right” then he’s been doing so for a LONG time. He’s been pretty open about his faith and how they affect his beliefs, reasoning all along.
Believe it or not, people of true faith really DO exist. We exist whether people like it or not–whether THEY believe in God or not. Some may not LIKE that fact, but it’s a fact nonetheless.
I see it as a positive while you and some others may see it as a negative.
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:59amAnyone who doubts Santorum’s beliefs are sincere, is wrong. We need to look past the Primaries, and focus on the type of leader who’d best serve the country, and completely over-hall the corrupt system in D.C.
Oliver North supports Newt, won’t ‘entertain the nightmare’ of an Obama re-election
[Video report with Ollie:]
Retired U.S. Marine Corps officer Oliver North told The Daily Caller that he would like to see former House Speaker Newt Gingrich as commander in chief, saying that another four years of President Barack Obama would be “a nightmare.”
North told TheDC at the Conservative Political Action Conference that “two years ago, when [Gingrich] suggested he might run, he asked for my support. I pledged I would do it,” he said. (RELATED: More interviews from CPAC)
“It’s time for us to hire a commander in chief who doesn’t feel necessary to run around the world apologizing for America,” said North…
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ashestoashes
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:37am@STUCK-in CA Anyone who doubts Santorum’s beliefs are sincere, is wrong.. Santorum‘s moral issues don’t bother me..nor does his milking the system..but when he has been named one of the 3 most corrupt senators out of one hundred..that does concern me.. He sponsered laws for big companies and received campaign contributions .One example..while in Congress, Santorum kept pushing very specific laws increasing Medicare payments in Puerto Rico; one would have cost the government $400 million. (The eventual bill gave them more money, but not that much.) That seems like an odd cause for a small-government Senator from Pennsylvania to work so hard on — until you find out Universal Health Service paid Santorum $395,000 for his “insights” after he left the Senate, and appointed him to their Board of Directors. During his time on the Board, UHS was sued for Medicare fraud (and settled out of court), and several of their facilities had their certifications suspended or cancelled
Report Post »There’s a lot more where that came from..so I have a little bit of a hard time with Ricky’s sincerity.
http://www.realchange.org/santorum.htm
individualliberty85
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:01amSantorum is certainly NOT what you see is what you get. Vote to subsidize planned parenthood then says he’s pro-life, says he’s a conservative and votes to raise the debt ceiling 5 times, support the patriot act, endorse pro-choice candidates (specter and thomas), and still have the audacity to get on stage and call himself a conservative…. So actually, if you look at his record, he IS what you see is what you get, he just misrepresents his record every time he spouts off about his conservatism….. he’s just another status quo establishment republican candidate who lies about his record to pander to conservatives….. and unfortunately, people are buying it….. doesn’t make sense what conservatives see in him…. he gives a good speech on conservatism…. big flipping whoop….
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:49amSantorum: “Government needs to be BIG if people don’t order their lives correctly”
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=KjCZXfhjoWA#t=0s
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:43amI think it is great that you post all of these links to show everyone things that Santorum says because we should know our candidates, but how about links to Obama and then tell me who is a bigger threat to your Freedom and Liberty? If Santorum is the nominee will you support him? This election is about what most people will not want to accept. This election is about do you want a totalitarian government run by Barrack Hussein Obama’s Czars or a Big Government run by the Republican? I will take the BIG GOVERNMENT candidate THIS ELECTION to start to move us back the other way! We will have to move back through the steps that got us here to turn things around. This is our fault, the fault of small government people not being involved for over 60 years.
Report Post »circleDwagons
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 2:22pm@robinkilt. Thanks, but i voted against obama in 08. in 2000 i voted against algore. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still evil. i can not and will not vote for obama, romney or gingrich. at this point i don’t see voting for Saint rick. maybe he can buy my vote by promising to CUT government. If he adopts most of Pauls idea and plans then maybe
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:47amRick Santorum is a poster-boy for what drove away voters from Republicans during the Bush years. He supported all the worst expansions of the Federal Government when he should have stuck by his “conservative” principles and voted against them. He’s created multiple Federal agencies, supports bailouts, helped double the Department of Education, allowed the Federal Government to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants, supported every interventionist war, is an outspoken supporter of foreign aid, supported a terribly irresponsible expansion of Medicare, and has a history of being very anti-muslim and anti-homosexual. He’s unelectable.
1996 – He voted for the anti-gun Lautenberg Amendment to Federally strip citizens of gun rights if they are convicted of a certain misdemeanors.
2001 – He voted for No Child Left Behind, further federalizing education in America, and doubling the size of the Department of Education, in both employees and in budget size.
2001 – He voted for the USA PATRIOT Act.
2001 – He voted to bailout the airline industry with Federal tax-dollars.
2002 – He voted for the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.
2002 – He voted to create the TSA, which now unconstitutionally searches people in airports, bus stations, subways, train stations, on highways, and more.
2003 – He voted to expand prescription drug entitlements with his support of Medicare Part D, which is now a $7 Trillion unfunded liability.
2004 – Endorsed pro-abort
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:54amSantorum is one of the most corrupt politicians in recent memory, by which I mean, he repeatedly sponsored laws giving very specific help to companies — worth millions of dollars — and they immediately gave him large campaign donations and — after he left the Senate — hundreds of thousands, and millions of dollars in cash that went directly into his pocket and made him rich. He was twice named one of America’s 3 most corrupt senators by CREW, a clean-government group, and has become a millionaire from payments by these companies since was voted out of the Senate in 2006
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Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:45amSantorum’s anti-gun history
http://www.nationalgunrights.org/rick-santorums-anti-gun-history/
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:45amSantorum: “America is ”not just a collection of freedoms,” said the insufferably sanctimonious Santorum. It is, instead, a collection of orders from the state defining what “proper” behavior is. Stalin himself could not have said it better.”
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-ayatollah-santorum-the-sanctimonious-ass-.aspx?article=3800514004G10020&redirect=false&contributor=Tom+DiLorenzo
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:29amDon’t forget…
Report Post »http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/01/04/santorum-conservative-technocrat/
thegreatcarnac
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:44amSantorum has not varied his message since he has begun. He is correct about the morals of the nation. Most of the immorality of America stems from the left and their immorality. If Santorum can roll back the left then he is my candidate. I think he can. Even if he fails to get the nomination perhaps his platform can be implemented to a degree.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:54amGood points. It’s a shame some people seem to actually fear “people of faith.” They must be ignorant of the good things faith has done in this country and our world. Perhaps they only focus on the evil things done in the NAME of various faiths. And he nor anyone is “unelectable” unless WE THE PEOPLE say so. And the fat lady hasn’t sung yet.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:43amSantorum will end birth control?
“Santorum, who has also pledged to do what he can to put an end to contraception if elected president. Contraception changes “the way things ought to be,” he says. Santorum is self assured that he, and he alone, understands “the way things ought to be” and pledges to use the powers of the state to forcefully impose his “understanding” on the entire country.”
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-ayatollah-santorum-the-sanctimonious-ass-.aspx?article=3800514004G10020&redirect=false&contributor=Tom+DiLorenzo
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:42amSantorum: “Women shouldn‘t serve in combat because of ’other types of emotions’ ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/santorum-says-other-types-of-emotions-could-preclude-women-in-combat/2012/02/09/gIQAkiya2Q_blog.html
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Santorum the Sanctimonious: Santorum statements can only be described as delusional and totalitarian.
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-ayatollah-santorum-the-sanctimonious-ass-.aspx?article=3800514004G10020&redirect=false&contributor=Tom+DiLorenzo
Report Post »HKS
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:40amHe may just be the only different candidate with any chance of winning. The other two seem to be the same old crap to me. Haven’t had a good conservative choice in more than twenty years. Those other two will not survive the liberal press blast that is just waiting to see who wins the nomination.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:59amAgreed.
Report Post »kaygee
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:34amWho will vote for rick santorum only three member of glen beck and evengalical.In end obama will be easily re elceted.Good luck you dumpest americans
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:55amSo who do you support?
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:58amWow. Hatred and intolerance aren’t going to get us anywhere. We need to be better than that. But hey, maybe you’re just another Paulbot or liberal plant sent here to stir up trouble. Either way, you spelled “dumpest” wrong it’s supposed to be “dumbest.” Whether I vote for Santorum, Paul, Gingrich or Romney in the primary, whomever has the “R” next to their name in the general election has my vote. You better get yourself ready for that kind of move. None of these candidates are perfect for the job, they all have flaws. However, Obama having another term in office is National Suicide and would be match point for our country. BTW I am voting for Santorum in the primary in my state and then, like I said, whomever has the “R” because even a can of progressive dog food would be better than the treasonous criminal that we have now.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:33am.
Dear Glenn,
We still have No George Washington!!!!!
All we have a Newt, a Mitt, a Rick and a NutJob……
I still think Ya’ll should Vote for Me….. SpankDaMonkey/Beck 2012
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:48amWell George Washtington had slaves, so I don’t know why we deify him so much, as good as he was, owning slaves is a stain too.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:20am.
George had Slaves, Oh My!!!!
Well I think everybody should own 2 or 3 Democrat’s. How’s That?…………
Report Post »robinakilt
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:22amShow me any leader in the entire history of the world that was was perfect! There was one and he was beaten and he carried his own cross to the place where they nailed him to it to die! Other than this man there is none and you are foolish to think there would be one now!
Report Post »kaygee
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:28amIs Rick santorum running for president of USA or Christian preacher?can some body explain
Report Post »nocalifornia
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:23amIt would be refreshing if folks who try and attack candidates on this forum would have the guts to also tell us who they are for. There seems to be a lot of candidate bashing but from where is it coming from, the left, Romney, Newt, Paul, Santorum? I think the vast majority of the criticisms are coming from left wing Soros liberal socialist bloggers in an attempt to divide the party.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:45amI don‘t usually tell the Paulies who I’m leaning toward because they don’t understand what it is to support a candidate anyway. Whoever it happened to be, they‘d just launch the standard attack that they use for anybody who isn’t Ron Paul (neocon, progressive, status quo, etc.). They can just insert any name they feel like at the time.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:04amI put who I support at the end of almost all my posts. As far as “soros” people posting, well you need to look back at peoples posts. If they are left wingers their overall posts will show it. The anti Paul crowd doesnt argue political views with Paul supporters. Its always attacks on him or the supporters themselves. People who wont stick up for their candidate like QP are more likely lefty plants.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:14am@martinez012577
Report Post »LOL! It chaps your patoody that you don‘t know which candidate’s name to insert, doesn’t it?
qpwillie
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 10:19am@martinez012577
Report Post »You Paulies are quick to openly admit that you will write in Ron Paul to help 0bama get reelected. Are you sure you want to accuse somebody else of being a leftist plant?
martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:26am@ qp
Its more of a warning. The people so desperate to get rid of Obama better realize that without our support you get 4 more with Obama. To us it doesnt matter if its Obama, Romney, Gingrich, or Santorum because they all are headed in the same big government, big spending, control taking, warmongering direction.
Report Post »sonnetswan
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:51amI voted for McCain/Palin in 2008, generally independent but vote most of the time for republicans. Santorum is a nightmare. After doing my homework, Ron Paul is the only viable choice. I was an avid Beck fan until he backtracked everything he said for 2 years in order to trash Ron Paul. Is that enough info for you?
Report Post »whereareyourbrains
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:22amHe comes across very sincere. Very honest. I am impressed. Mitt comes across as programmed and fake. He never seems sincere. His facial expressions do not match his words. I really have trouble watching him speak. Almost as bad as Obama……I never wanted Rick………but I have changed my mind. I am originally from Pa and just thought he was a has been. He in honest, sincere, and loves this country and hates what both parties have done to it. I am for Rick.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:43amSo, you are a sucker for CHARISMA?
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:17amI appreciate Santorum’s faith but I also thinks he wears it on his sleave a bit.
Mitt Romney is a man of faith every bit as much as Santorum. He doesn’t wear it on his sleave for a couple of reasons, one is the Biblical mandate to not try to gather attention of other people to your piousness / good works (don’t let the one hand know what the other is doing) and also the biggotted backlash he would receive if he were to do so.
Romney also respects those who don’t believe the same as he does and is a proponent of religious freedom for all (not just those who think like he does).
Romney served 2.5 years as a missionary in France leaving an affluent lifestyle back home. He also served as a Bishop (like a pastor) and also a Stake President (over several congregations/pastors). All of that service was done without any monitary compensation. The missionary work was full-time. The other two service positions both required a significant amount of time and involved working with many members in both spiritual and temporal ways. Romney pays a full tithe it looks like. He is his brothers’ keeper (helped find a friends daughter that was missing). Romney is every bit as religious and walks the walk like Christ has asked us to. He just doesn’t wear it on his sleeve.
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:39amAlso it seems to me that Santorum is itching to pull the trigger for going to war compared to Romney.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:45amSantorum basks in the comfort of being in the majority. No one is making an issue out of being a Catholic in this world, not when there are a BILLION of them.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:39amRomney also said in a debate he will kill anyone anywhere. He supports the NDAA, so that might even mean someone like me, that stores bulk food, doesnt support him, and think the government is overgrown and corrupt.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 7:16pmRomney didn’t say he would kill anyone anywhere. You are not telling the truth. He did say he would go after terrorists anywhere.
I didn’t like his stance on the NDAA. I would like to here more about it from him.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:10amI have to ask the blaze readers, who of the 4 left will get any kind of swing vote (the vote that wins elections).
Santorum? He will be viewed and shown as a Bush lackey that went along with the failed policies of the past. Obama will hammer him on this. As far has Santorum goes with the base, he has been for gun control, has been for big spending, he has been for more war, and he is very much in favor of the government being in control. So Santorum will not get any swing vote support, and will lose alot of his base if they look at his record. Furthermore, he isnt on the Virginia ballot, parts of Ohio, Indiana, Tenn, and a few other spots.
Gingrich? Gingrich is viewed as a wind bag. He will not get any swing vote due to his arrogance. He attacked Clinton on affairs yet he was doing it himself. He will be labeled a liar, cheat, Washington insider, and overall an ass. For his base, they will be hammered with pictures of him sitting on the couch with Pelosi, saying he is for a national healthcare mandate, and he also wants to continue the never ending wars. His time as speaker isnt as bight a picture if it is examined closely. He also is missing on the ballots of some states.
Romney? The guy doesnt connect well with the Republican base, if he did this race would have already been over. His problem is he shares(shared) most of the same views as Obama does. How can he debate Obama? Obamacare? NOPE. War? NOPE. Abortion? NOPE. Gun control? NOPE. cont
Report Post »nocalifornia
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:17amI see you left out the Ron Paul, I was wondering why then it occurred to me that you must be one of the wing nuts. Ron Paul despite being right on about 90% of the issues is unelectable and you all know it. Maybe after 4 more years of misery and destruction by the liberal socialist or 4 years of the same with the RINO progressive then just maybe the country would be ready for one of the Paul’s.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:21amcont..
Spending cuts? NOPE. Taxes? NOPE. Climate control? NOPE. NDAA? NOPE. Romney has been on the same side of Obama on almost every issue until he needed to be against them for political gain. Is that the candidate you want in office. Santorum has given similar reasons for supporting bad ideas and has blamed it on his constituents also. Throw in the Mormon thing and honestly he has no shot to beat Obama.
Ron Paul? He is the only one that in all honestly can get support from the swing vote. He is most ways is the exact opposite of Obama. He can go after Obama on War, abortion, spending, taxes, states rights, and freedom. Does he stick to his priniciples? Well I would say his career has made that pretty clear. Now anti Paul people will say, but he “doesnt support Israel”. How exactly does he not give Israel exactly what they want? Netantayu spoke before Congress last year and said they need nothing from us other than diplomatic support. Can you honestly say, he will not support them? He will have us out of the UN, which is anti-Israel. He will cut the aid to the countries hostile to Israel. As far as Iran and war go, it isnt a presidents job to declare war. That is up to the Congress. He will follow the Constitution, and yes I know some of you think that is kooky and crazy but some of us still believe in it.
The choice is clear. We can go with the same thing we have been for 100 years or we can vote for real change.
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:50amIt’s the ECONOMY stoopid, and Romney shines on that.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:27amLOL maybe you missed the cont.. at the end.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:32am@sym
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not. I know you have said you support Paul but I also know you are a Mormon so you might be conflicted. If it wasnt sarcasm I would have to say Romney is wrong on the economy. His budget doesnt address the big spending, it cuts very little in real cuts and only cuts future increases. He has been for raising taxes in the past and supports raising the minimum wage which is a job killer and hurts the people at the bottom the most. So as far as the economy goes, Romney is just plain wrong.
Report Post »Freedomluver
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:08amSantorum is going to have a tough time explaining his “bedroom” comment. That may play well with fanatics, but that’s about it.
Report Post »moodtd01
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:07amRick Santorum seems to be an honest man who faces tough problems head on. The very few times he has done something that seemed a little less than conservative he has explained that he did go against what he would normally do but felt it was necessary and why. Romney and Gingrich spend hours trying to explain away things that they did and never seem genuine about it. Ron Paul is too liberal, and perhaps a bit crazy or out of touch with reality.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:51amHow is Ron Paul liberal? Is it liberal to cut 5 Coommunistic/Islamic bureaurocracies?
Report Post »Is it liberal to want to bring our military home to build on it and protect us on the homefront?
Is it liberal to want to put the power back into the hands of the states?
Is it liberal to want smaller government?
Is it liberal to want lower taxes?
Is it liberal to balance the budget within three years?
Everyone thinks we might be ready for a Ron Paul in 4 yrs.
We may not have four years left
MiCurmudgeon
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:01amRick is excellent in leading a Crusade. However , the Crusades failed . We need someone who can build a team to actually accomplish a turnaround of the Federal Government.
Report Post »whereareyourbrains
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:25ammicru….you mean we neet Newt? He is the only one who will do what you say……………
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:54amI love this lady they quoted,“His values are my values,” said Valerie Benton, a retired teacher from Edmond, Okla. “It‘s not like he’s forcing his beliefs on anybody.”. Yeah, that is because is values are like yours. I am certain if they weren’t, you would be saying “ He is trying to force his beliefs on you”. People are silly and dangerous. Particularly the “pink cloud” Christians. Those who want religion to be some magical solution instead of the actually hard work and commitment faith really is. AS I study the early days of the American civilization, those in the 1500′ss, there were some religious who were bent on certain ideas, those who were plain good practicing Christians, then those who found out that just being the happy feel good Christian wasn’t enough to survive. I enjoy reading the literate in this area or any position in time where men are seriously faced with the reality they must survive. It is these times where a true test of faith can be examined, witnessing the challenges of fear and the miracles that result with those who have faith. There were certain aspects of Christianity in early America that were against slavery all the way back then. IT has been my personal experinece with religion that most people don’t really get in in their heart. Which is fine, I see those members that must hold the body together. There are also those who are leaders, however, unless a man understand the truth of service, that is, to serve with out expectati
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:25amI hate *expectati* ( just kidding with ya)
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Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:52amI really don’t care about his religion. Whoever wins needs to fix the country.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:58amYeah this whole religion nonsense needs to get the heck out of the election, because that’s what the 1st Amendment is all about anyway, religion not being used for OR against people by government.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:00amThe Constitution and Bible agree. There’s no need to hold a “who is the best Christian” contest.
“Who is the best Constitutionalist” is fine with me (and it’s surely not Santorum).
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 11:43am@sym
You say it doesnt belong and the you bring up the 1st Amendment. But doesnt it allow American citizens to make the choice on who they vote for which every way they choose?
I will not vote for a man, I do not believe is a Christian. Its my right to do so. Its also the right of posters to question and argue for or against the candidates religion if they choose. So to say leave it out, you have no right to say that to anyone. I understand you Mormons or overly sensitive because alot of negative stuff has come out about the Mormon faith but still doesnt mean it shouldnt be brought up.
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 7:26pmIf Mormons are oversensitive, it is because of biggoted attitudes like you have. We are Christian, much more so than those who are biggeted against us. Who are you to tell me what my beliefs are? I believe in Christ and that he is my savior. According to your religion I probably should be saved forever no matter what I do with that statement! Instead, you will state that I’m not Christian, as if you had any authority to make such a statement. The Bible and LDS doctrine agree perfectly. Yes we are Christians.
1 John:4:15
Whosever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
LDS make this confession, so does God not dwell in them and them in Him?
3 John 1:11
…He that doeth good is of God:….
Lots of LDS people do good including Romney so is he not of God and other LDS that do good? If you deny this reasoning then you deny the Bible and are a hypocrite.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:43amI saw a Romney interview last night where he boasted that he was the only candidate with the “recources” and “organization” to win the the nomination. In other words “I have more money than the other guys”. Way to inspire us Mitt. FYI, Obama has more money than you and I’m not voting for him either.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:48amditto
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 8:57am“resources”
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:19amHaving the money and the resourses isn’t the main reason to vote for someone obviously, but it is a factor when comparing one good candidate against another!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:29amThen you should vote for Obama Blamb, he’s got the most behind him by far.
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 9:56amYou’re wrong on your thinking. If you consider this to be a race, and it is, where you need the best car, and its expensive, and you compare it to someone who has a consumer car, well, who’s going to win the INDY 500? The guy who has a Ford Mustang? That would be Santorum.
It DOES matter what resources you have, because Obama has an INDY car now. That IS the race.
Report Post »blamb61
Posted on February 10, 2012 at 7:31pmGONZO
I said it was a factor in evaluating one good candidate against another. I don’t consider Obama a good candidate. Do you? That is what you implied with your response.
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