Is the Tea Party a ‘Spiritual’ Movement?
- Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:00pm by
Billy Hallowell
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It’s certainly a political phenomenon, but is the Tea Party also a “Spiritual” movement?
For the past two years, a number of media outlets have highlighted the intermingling of Christianity and Tea Party philosophy. Some have lamented the combination of the two, while others have sought to showcase how the Tea Party’s basic tenets align with Christian principles.
In his new book, “The Great American Awakening,” South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint’s (also apparently known as “Senator Tea Party”) discusses his take on the Tea Party as well as his faith. If you don’t already know it, DeMint is an unabashed “Tea Party Republican” and Christian.
While his book focuses primarily on the American political system and the rise of the Tea Party, DeMint claims that the book’s title is reminiscent of the Second Great Awakening (a time of religious revival in the early 1800s). As RNS highlights, the connection between one of America’s most well-known political movements and the Christian faith is overtly made in DeMint’s words:
“(The Tea Party) is as much a spiritual awakening as a political awakening. The concern about our country…has awakened the faith of many people.”
In “The Great American Awakening,” DeMint goes as far as to tie concern over the government’s size and scope to religion. He writes:
“Big government is a religious issue. History shows in nations where there is a big government, there is a little God. When people are dependent on government, they are less dependent on God, and their spiritual fervor fades. Socialism and secularism go hand in hand, as do faith and freedom.”
While these words clearly illustrate DeMint’s own beliefs on the matter, is this association present across the political landscape? Back in October 2010, CBN’s Paul Stand penned a piece in which he explored the close ties between the Tea Party and Christianity. Below, you can watch the associated newscast CBN put together on this story:
According to Strand, Dr. Robert Jones, the CEO of the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), led a study last year that found a deep connection between conservative Christians and the Tea Party. Jones says:
“We found that nearly half, 47 percent, of those who say they consider themselves a part of the Tea Party movement also say they consider themselves part of the conservative Christian movement.”
Some critics contend that Tea Party adherents are more Libertarian in nature, but Jones disagrees. His research found the majority of Tea Partiers (63 percent) saying that abortion should be illegal — a view that aligns perfectly with the conservative Christian movement. NPR pulled out some of the highlights from PRRI’s research that help to reinforce this point:
[The Tea Party is] an overwhelmingly Christian group. 81% identify as Christian…and only 18% [are] in favor of gay marriage.
Earlier this week, scholars Robert Putnam and David Campbell penned an op-ed for The New York Times in which they claimed that Tea Party supporters have been brought together by their social conservatism and a desire to see religion and politics integrate.
Putnam and Campbell believe that, based on the nation’s trend away from enjoying the convergence of faith and religion, the Tea Party may have a downhill trajectory.
They claim that polls show that the Tea Party is declining in its approval among Americans. In coming to this conclusion, they cite an April 2010 New York Times/CBS News survey (among other data) that found 18 percent of Americans with an unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party; now, they say recent research finds 40 percent of the nation opposing the conservative political movement. The two write:
Of course, politicians of all stripes are not faring well among the public these days. But in data we have recently collected, the Tea Party ranks lower than any of the 23 other groups we asked about — lower than both Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much maligned groups like “atheists” and “Muslims.” Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right.
To back up their claim that the real tie among the Tea Party faithful is social conservatism and the urge to see religion and politics come together, they cite Tea Party support for Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, among other Christian politicians. Their conclusion?
“On everything but the size of government, Tea Party supporters are increasingly out of step with most Americans, even many Republicans.”
Of course, making a prediction like this might be difficult. After all, the Tea Party is relatively new in its inception. While polls showcase trends toward specific ideals, the social and political landscape is ever-changing. Also, considering the horrific situation America’s fiscal house is currently in, if Tea Party faithful push for candidates who have solid plans, the public may still come alongside them (while looking past the social conservatism).
Although liberal preacher Jim Wallis doesn’t think Tea Parties are Christians, these researchers, among others, do believe that adherents follow the Christian faith. Go figure.
In the end, it‘s still early to be judging the Tea Party’s potential influence during the 2012 race and beyond. But, the push for small government is certainly something that is resonating with the American public — regardless of how spiritual or socially-conservative the Tea Party is on the whole.
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Comments (282)
South Philly Boy
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:00pmThey got that RIGHT
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:00pm“Socialism and secularism go hand in hand, as do faith and freedom.”
“THE CONSTITION WAS MADE ONLY FOR A MORAL AND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. IT IS WHOLLY INADEQUATE TO THE GOVERNMENT OF ANY OTHER.” John Adams
Pretty much says it all!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:27pmIt does you just proved that the tea party and the taleban are more alike than not.
Mr. Oshawott
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:22pm@Rational Man
But I’m pretty much sure that John Adams in no way meant that the government should be allowed to exercise involvement in religious affairs.
Report Post »LibertyGoddess
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:22pmWonderful quote from John Adams. Now watch how many will criticize the quote because they interpret moral and religious to mean a particular religion. It will take moral and religious people from all walks of life and all religions for this constitution to work. Separation of church and state does not mean to remove God from our lives. It does not even mean we can’t have prayers in public meetings, it simply means religions are protected against government intrusion and the government is not to sponsor a particular religion.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:34pmreligion DEFFINITION # 4. obsession: an object, practice, cause, or activity that somebody is completely devoted to——– or obsessed by
The danger is that you start to make fitness a religion.
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:49pmtHEIR ARE ALOT oF VETERANS IN THE TEA PARTY FROM kORIA,VEITNAM, THE GOLF(bOTH)
Report Post »AFFGANISTAN. tHEY See what Obama and the left has done by aiding and comforting the enemies……….and are’nt happy about it ! Say this is not what they fought for ! ! !
And want this craziness Stoped ! And America restored to the Great Nation We Once Were !
The-Monk
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:50pm@encinom
Report Post »Are you posting again while drunk? Poor little encinom. Always ready to say a whole bunch of nothing.
the hawk
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:52pmThey Want Peace Through Strenth ! ! ! not friendship and appeasement !
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:20am@Mr. Oshawott
No, but the other way around yes.
Report Post »YAHSHUARULES
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:21amAbsolutely agree. This talk from the liberal progressives about Christians being dangerous and saying domminionists want to execute homosexuals is outrageous. The left was happy when those of faith were just content to stay behind the closed doors of a church, stay out of politics and bide their time until “raptured” out of this world. But when the Church started to rediscover its backbone and relevence and become engaged once again in politics as the founders were, as the Black Robe Regiment was when “pulpits thundered” – The demononic (not my words credit Ann Colter – though I absolutely agree) of the left hates this and wants to intimidate those who know this country was founded and grounded in Christian/Judeao principles and want a return to that republic to sit down and shut up as they continue to destroy the greatest nation on earth and plunge us into a darkness of moral relativism and humanism, communism or whatever “ism” anything but the TRUTH. I am heartened to see people standing up and saying enough is enough, not only on economic issues but more important the social issues, the moral issues.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:22amENCINOM…………just gave a perfect (I mean perfect) example of the left’s use of moral relativism.
Report Post »Jezreel
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:22amEncinom is the Blaze’s tackling dummy.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:28am@the hawk
Yes, and in either case it would take a bill passed by both houses of Congress and the President’s signature to effect abridgement.
Report Post »ohnomrbill
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:49am*********
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:59amLook at all the left wing clown trolls deflecting the issue. It’s so fun to watch the stupidity and utter lack of historical facts when they argue. They haven’t a leg to stand on so instead of talking to the issue they simply use the typical smoke and mirror anti God talking points. The fact is this country was formed around Christian precepts and thus shaped it’s moral principles and laws. The left cant win this argument. Never have never will.
We are not a Christian Country. We are a country of many religions. Christianity not Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Zionism, Wiccans, (if I left anyone out I’m sorry) Had absolutely nothing to do with the founding fathers beliefs that formed the United States Of America. The beliefs of the Carpenter of Nazareth and his teachings are the tenants that have created our freedoms and liberties. Because of this no other country has ever prospered at the rate we have.
Progressive socialists and communism are in direct conflict with what the founders created. This reason and this reason alone is why progressive entitlement Presidents who’ve embraced Socialist tenets such as Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter and now Obama are considered failures.
Report Post »Paradigmm
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:03amYAHSHUARULES;
Sorry to disappoint but no! The fact of the matter is the majority of our founders where in fact NOT Christians. Franklin and Jefferson where Deists, Washington harbored a Pantheistic sense, John Adams began a Congregationalist and ended a Unitarian and Hamilton was a lukewarm Anglican for most of his life but embrace a more actively Christian posture after his son died in a duel. The one thing they all had in common was their belief that a man that is ruled by religion would always fall back on his “faith” while ignoring facts. They were driven by science and reasoning seeking truth through evidence and knew religion would contaminate the process. That is why they proclaimed in the first amendment for the need for the separation of church and state. Worship who you will, but keep it out of the decision making process.
Report Post »Paradigmm
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:10amSteve;
I refer you to The Encyclopedia Britannica
Report Post »http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2007/02/the-us-founding-fathers-their-religious-beliefs/
Paradigmm
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:22am“There is scarcely any part of science, or anything in nature, which those imposters and blasphemers of science, called priests, as well Christians as Jews, have not, at some time or other, perverted, or sought to pervert to the purpose of superstition and falsehood.”
“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on nothing; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing and admits of no conclusion.”
“No falsehood is so fatal as that which is made an article of faith.”
“Of all the tyrannies that afflict mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst. Every other species of tyranny is limited to the world we live in, but this attempts a stride beyond the grave and seeks to pursue us into eternity.”
“The Bible: a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.”
Taken from the writings of Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:29amJohn Adams
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God”
“Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. . . . What a Eutopia – what a Paradise would this region be”
“I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the best book in the world”
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:32amFranklin
Report Post »As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see
Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:32amJefferson
“The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses”
“I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others”
“I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ”
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:33amWashington
“You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are”
“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian”
“The blessing and protection of Heaven are at all times necessary but especially so in times of public distress and danger. The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier, defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country”.
“I now make it my earnest prayer that God would… most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of the mind which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion”
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:33am@Paradigmm
Report Post »Before I go into the the hundreds upon hundreds of quotes from speeches and letters and personal biographies let me keep this simple. I’ll just give a few quotes from the ones you listed. We all await your reply and historical facts to back up what you say.
thepatriotdave
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:02amThis is one of the reasons I want to draft Congressman West to run for President.
http://www.AllenWestforPresident.us
Report Post »Paradigmm
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:03am@Steve
Report Post »“Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
George Washington
“The faith you mention has doubtless its use in the world. I do not desire to see it diminished, nor would I desire to lessen it in any way; but I wish it were more productive of good works than I have generally seen it. I mean real good works, works of kindness, charity, mercy, and public spirit, not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing, and reading, performing church ceremonies, or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments, despised even by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity”
Benjamin Franklin
Paradigmm
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:04am@Steve
Report Post »“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
John Adams
“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?”
John Adams
Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:48amI‘ll take the two quotes you’ve given by Adams.
[John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816]
Adams is criticizing the clergy and those who would make converts by the power of the civil government.
Defence of the Constitutions of the United States of America
By John Adams
1787
This work speaks about Adams declaring that we are not a Christian Nation. His examples of past ancient governments and goes on at great length as the differences of Religious based governments to the American goverment.
I am not arguing this. I actually agree that we aren’t a Christian nation. As I’ve stated in this thread. I’m arguing your statement.
“The fact of the matter is the majority of our founders where in fact NOT Christians.”
They formed a country that wasn’t religious based. However their judgement to do so was based on the freedoms and liberties not from the Church of England or by atheists beliefs but from their understanding of Christ and the liberties and freedoms it espoused
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 3:09amParadigmm
George Washington
Sir Edward Newenham, Oct. 20, 1792
George Washington is speaking to the issue of different churches and denominations across the country. (Well 13 States) They should be loyal to the state as they have freedoms and liberties. A direct contrast to the Church Of England.
How this proves he wasn’t a Christian is beyond me.
Benjamin Franklin
To Joseph Huey
Sir, Philada. June 6. 1753
Mr. Franklin speaks about men who are religious but yet don’t act it. I’m simplifying the letter here.
How this applies to the conversation I have no idea
Again! I’m debating your statement that they werent Christians. (Yes Franklin was a Deist) Your throwing quotes that have no meaning to the issue of that statement. Rather giving quotes about the goverment and it’s non Christian Only laws. Again We are not a Christian Country. I think I’ve made that point clear. I hope I’ve made that point clear. Our founders Most of them with 3 that I’m aware of were Christian or for simplistic sake believers in Christ. Men who by the teaching of Christs lessons and love created a Country were all men are free. Where all men can choose and where all men unlike the COE can worship who and what they like.
Report Post »MrldPatriot
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 3:43amLooks like ENCINOM skipped over the word, “MORAL”.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:09amYou can be an atheist and be moral, you can be of another faith and be moral…but Adams was speaking during a time when the majority of the people were Christian and moral…if he were alive today would he recant his words and say it somewhat differently? I think so…
All men are created equal…
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:15amencinom
Really? Prove it chump. Show me the verses in the Bible that are similar to the Koran. Then point out the numbers of the kill rates by each group including the atheists. IIRC the atheists have the highest number of kills than either Christian or Muslim…and Christian killing others is low on the table…you better put up or shut up.
A man without data is a man with a bridge to nowhere.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:32amIt is interesting that Adams separated “moral” from “religious.” That is because people can have morality without religion.
Report Post »hud
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:08amJA was saying that the government was set up to govern a moral society, not a feral society.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 8:35ami was with the tea party at the beginning, but now the tea party was taken over by the evangelicals. Quite frankly the tyrants in the evaangelical movement are creepy. Religion is fine, but not mixed with politics. This will be the downfall of the tea party.
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 9:13amINCIMORAN – Your statement absolutely made no since – Obama has done more to promote Radical Islamic Fundamentalist than any other President in US History – When a Tea Party Candidate gets in office you will see a difference. It is all about good verses evil. Pick a side and live with the consequences.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 11:12amencinom
Report Post »How many people have the Tea Party killed in the name of their God? Your comparison is as weak as your mind.
captainaubrey
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:17pmLet the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it. John Adams 1816…
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:01pm@ENCINOM “Tea Party = Taliban?” Do your fingers type with the approval of your brain, or does your brain actually endorse that statement. Outrageous rhetoric doesn’t add to the dialogue.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:43pmI’d like to share something with you. This is an example from what this countries public school system started out as and well just read ENICOM’s posts and thats where we ended up.
BEN RUSH
SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; SURGEON GENERAL OF THE CONTINENTAL ARMY; RATIFIER OF THE U. S. CONSTITUTION; “FATHER OF AMERICAN MEDICINE”; TREASURER OF THE U. S. MINT; “FATHER OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION”
“I do not believe that the Constitution was the offspring of inspiration, but I am as satisfied that it is as much the work of a Divine Providence as any of the miracles recorded in the Old and New Testament”
“By renouncing the Bible, philosophers swing from their moorings upon all moral subjects… It is the only correct map of the human heart that ever has been published.”
“[T]he only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible”
“The great enemy of the salvation of man, in my opinion, never invented a more effective means of limiting Christianity from the world than by persuading mankind that it was improper to read the Bible at schools”
“The Bible, when not read in schools, is seldom read in any subsequent period of life… [T]he Bible… should be read in our schools in preference to all other books because it contains the greatest portion of that kind of knowledge which is calculated to produce pr
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:59pmThe kind of President you need?
Report Post »This kind:
http://markamerica.com/2011/08/19/new-awesome-sarahpac-video/
stillrecoveringfromthe60s
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 5:27pmSo tell me Rational Man — are these the same moral people who slaughtered the Native population??
Report Post »Spqr1
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 6:50pm“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…” Treaty of Tripoli, 1797. None of you may realize this, but Senate ratified treaties carry the FORCE OF LAW!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:00pmAmerica got a taste of TEA a few weeks ago. Yeah, I think America gets it.
Report Post »Rightsofman
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 10:18pmI am a Christian and have attended two Tea Party rallies neither rally in any way promoted Christianity in any visible way. Both rallies were political we were all inerested in less gov’t , accountability for our money, less gov’t interference in everyday life i.e. less infringment on our freedoms and adherence to the Constitution of the United States. No one was converting souls to Christianity so can the Leftie BS.
Report Post »grannynurse
Posted on August 21, 2011 at 3:01amHi Rational Man! Your quote is exactly what our founders warned us about! They understood that man is totally incapable of governing themselves without guidance from our creator. As our government pushes God farther and farther out of importance we get what we have – an out of control, floundering, bunch of greedy, power hungry, adulterous, money loving, lying, politicians that have no other reason to be in politics except to further their own agenda – our Constitution be damned! It just gets in their way!
And to those who would compare the Christian Religion to the taliban. Are you sure you want to banish what was the only reason a ragtag group of Christians defeated the most powerful military in the world at that time? God will not be patient forever. There is a time coming (maybe now) when you have to choose sides. You know, good vs. evil. Choose wisely.
Report Post »Cindy Rella
Posted on August 22, 2011 at 12:28amSince the GOP Republicans have proven to be just as greedy and corrupt as the liberals, the TEA party was destined to form.
The immorality in Washington needs to change as we are going the way of socialism, then communism.
Report Post »fidelcashflo44
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:57pmI love TPers and Blazers. So much comedy. The Tea Party originated around support for RON PAUL. The REAL Tea Party IS a libertarian party. However, following the Bush years, all of the disgruntled, old, uneducated, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Christian voters on the right needed an avenue to voice their ignorance. That is when the Tea Party was overrun. The vast, vast majority of TP supporters have no understanding of basic economic and socioeconomic principles. They think that government debt somehow directly affects their own debt. They think government spending is disconnected from investment. They are short-term thinkers disguising themselves – fooling themselves into believing they are fighting for the future generations.
The Christian Right in this country is for big government and they don’t even know it. They want the government to impede on the rights of innocent Muslim Americans wishing to build a mosque in their neighborhoods or near their historical landmarks. They want the government to decide which consenting adults should be afforded certain rights and priveleges in American law. They want the government to include Creationism in public schools’ science classrooms.
Today’s Tea Party is not “conservative” and it is not an opponent of big, bad government. They just think they are, and the GOP is willing to pretend the same. You’re all fools.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:06pmAnd your just a typical Pauline Cult troll. It must stink to be you…………………
Report Post »All that anger, hate and all……..And being a loser every four years, of coarse!
encinom
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:20pm“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
Report Post »conservative_teacher
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:21pmYou are absolutely correct..and you are not alone. The religious right has hijacked the GOP, and now they are hijacking the tea party. They are CINO’s (conservative in name only). It’s sickening. “Socialism and secularism go hand in hand”, what a bunch of horses**t. Some mythical deity isn’t going to save our republic. Ron Paul and more like him are the only real hope we have because he doesn’t want to return us to some bulls**t, mythical Judeo-Christian foundation, but to the real foundation that made our republic the greatest the world has ever know..LIBERTY!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:26pmYou must love them because you are on here more than the rest of us. You really need to get a life and stay with your own kind. Because in 2012 your beloved leader will go by the wayside. Hopefully they will put his picture right beside Carter, and Clinton. Then they can go on the road as the latter day 3 stooges.
Report Post »tarbush
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:39pm@Enicon
Communism has come to Amerika and it‘s wrapped up as ’change you can believe in’ , ‘the rich must pay their fair share’ (class warfare), calls for ‘toning down the violent rhetoric’ (except if you are loyal to the regime. If not, you are a ‘terrorist hostage taker’ that should be censored by the leftest media outlets that will one day be owned by the federal government).
Wonder how long until the
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:19pmRon Paul’s supporters, known as “Ronpauloompas”, “Paulsies”, “Paultards” or “RonBots”, I’m starting to see a striking similarity between the mindless zombies that support Obama and the rabid zombies that support Ron Paul. Everyone that doesn’t see everything their way must be stupid or a neoconservative sheeple
Report Post »henryKnox
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:34pmFreedom of religion is not something that is prevalent in the Socialist nations like China, Soviet Union, or the National Socialists. Big gov‘t can’t survive if the people put a god before the gov’t. I don’t know why people are so afraid of allowing other people to enjoy freedom. Sometimes I think it is because they have self esteem issues and other times I think it is because they are just hateful. Anyway, I’ll stick with the Tea Party because it is the only party that genuinely cares about people.
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:56pmTo all the BIGOTS against real Christians having an influence on the USA, please give an example of a nation with a history of more liberty and freedom than the USA where real Christians had NO influence.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:21pm@conservative_teacher
Good evening Sir, see you are back this evening, posting more anti-God rants. What makes you hate God so much?
This I know, while you spout a good story, I know the truth. At night, when you lay down to sleep, and close your eyes and are all alone with your thoughts, you know he is real, and it scares you.
Wisdom starts with a fear of God. The light of the gospel is in every man. Get yourself a good old fashioned King James Bible, and open up to the Gospel of John. Start reading there, it will put you on the right path
Have a good evening, I will be praying for you.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:27pm@conservative_teacher
One more thing. Do yourself a quick study of the Republican Party. Study the folks up in Jackson Michigan that meet under the oaks. Study the Free Soil Party that spawned into the republican party. Funny thing, you will notice that many of these early republicans had a real problem with slavery. Because of their Christian views, and Bible knowledge, they saw enslaving another man based on the color of his skin a sin, and against God. Notice that much of the underground railroad (republican folks and christians) risked much, to help free slaves. They did this because of their christian values. Study Lincoln, and see what he said about the Bible. Study Silent Cal (Calvin Coolidge), and see what his beliefs were. See what Ronald Reagan had to say about Christianity. Not sure where got the concept that republicans are supposed to be athiests, but you are wrong, and you have a skewed view of history (hope you do not teach history).
Once again, have a good evening.
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:13pmTea Party people are regular people who are the soul of this country. You other people trying to spread conspircy lies ar making yourselfs look like the idiots on the far radical left. I think some of you Paul supporters actually are a part of the far left because there are aspects of Ron Pauls’ agenda that appeals to the anarchists, communists, and any other radical left persuasion which wants to see the rug pulled out from any semblence of order in our society. I can pick out any Ron Paul supporter on this site in any of the stories just by paying attention to the idiocy in your posts. I say it again and say it plainly…most of Ron Paul supporters are anarchists parading under the libertarian banner.
ANARCHISTS!
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:44pmYes the grandfather of the Tea Party was started by Ron Paul, Directly after the 2008 election he formed campaign for Liberty and many others followed.. Encinom.. Fascism is already here.. In fact the Nazi’s learned from US!! and the progressive movement in the early 1900′s After WWII the heads of the Third Reich wer e brought here to continue under cover.. Germany surrendered in WWII, the Third Reich did not.. Ever hear the pledge of allegiance?? It’s fascist. and we are deeply ingrained and don’t even know it. Here is a series of films that will open your eyes a bit.. http://youtu.be/WxnPqxKxTEI this is 3 of 8 watch them all..
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:26amUm…that kinda flies in the face of the research!!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:08am@ conservative_teacher
“he doesn’t want to return us to some bulls**t, mythical Judeo-Christian foundation, but to the real foundation that made our republic the greatest the world has ever know..LIBERTY!”
So you do agree that the Founders did form this country around Christian precepts. Thank you for bieng honest.
Now that we have that cleared up if the bulls**t, mythical Judeo-Christian foundation wasn’t the basis of the founding fathers ideas and faith that built this country then what exactly is the real foundation you speak of?
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 4:21amWhy do some Ron Paul supporters constantly bully their point and throw insults at those who don’t believe in all of Dr. Paul’s political platform.
Don’t they realize that they actually hurt Dr. Paul. If they would just lay out his points and speak rationally more can be accomplished. When they debate with hatred and name calling they have aligned themselves with the same style of rhetoric and hatred as the progressive socialist and communists.
Sad sad people. He will never be nominated so these people instead will stay home and give half their vote to a socialist quasi marxist. Can we then qualify these people as half socialist quasi Marxists.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:11amYou are so wrong…we don’t want the feds in the schools, as a matter of fact we want to home school our kids…and we are for smaller government…
You’ve not listened to a bloody word we have said so STFU and go home.
Report Post »Jack MeOff
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:52pmJesus can’t run. He’s not a U.S. citizen!
Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:39amJesus is in the heart and soul.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:19amGod can do whatever He wants…and He usually does. He‘s not a respecter of man’s thoughts and ideals.
Report Post »jackact
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:50pmFaith is a scary concept for progressives.
Report Post »They require ‘living proof’ of real faith.
Government is their comfort.
Such is true in all of socialism
How unrewarding that must be?
What’s going to happen when they lose all in Nov 2012?
One can only imagine…
We’ll be here to pick up the pieces of the shambles they have left in their wake.
And FAITH will guide us.
S G Applebee
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:59pm“Faith” is a scary concept….PERIOD! The one thing ALL terrorists have in common is FAITH.
Report Post »70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:22pm@sgapple
Report Post »If you make plans for tomorrow you have faith you will be alive tomorrow.
ozchambers
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:08pm@APPLEBEE……Islamic terrorists would be the ones claiming to have faith, but faith in a belief system that says to kill everyone not exactly like them. Christ never taught that. After the ismafascists, its mostly commie types and they dont have faith. At least not in any god.
Report Post »JesterMN
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:50pmI, and most of my friends, are supportive of the Tea Party and fiscal conservatives. However, while we are probably mostly Christian (I was raised Catholic and I know at least one of my close friiends was as well), none of us regularly attend church. My wife and I are a bit more “spiritual” you could say, but we follow the Christian hollidays and our kids have been baptized and have been to church on a few times (and know who Jesus is). We are happy for people who are religious no matter what religion. It is a GOOD thing.
BUT…We don’t want religion crammed down our throats. We all have the opinion of the “Religious Right” is nothing more than big government wanting to tell us how to live. We do not want that type associated with the Tea Party and hijacking it. Most my age (41) and younger really don’t give a flip about gay marriage (why not let them?) or anything that goes on in the bedroom. We don’t thing pot is that bad and the war on drugs has failed. Abortion is a touchy subject both ways, but most I talk to agree that it should be baned past viability at least and most think past hearbeat. But most of us think there should be access to birth control and (wait for it) the “morning after pill”. We are a complicated bunch, willing to vote for a blue dog dem rather than a “religious right” candidate.
I love that the Tea Party is mostly Christian…that aligns to the county. As long as it is not “in you face” religion, I the movement will do just fine.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:09pmI didn’t look at your moniker until after I had read the comment. You are such a MN! lol :-). I think alot of us dar Minnnnnnnnesoootans feel that same way. Don’t ram your religion on me and I promise I will not ram mine on you. I am a Lute Ran and my wife is a Cat Lick. We send our kids to the Cat Lick school but are not rabid about pushing our choices on others. I may disagree with you on abortion and the morning after pill, but that is not a Tea Party issue.
Good Luck !
Report Post »beckwasfox
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 10:57pmThere are elements of a spiritual movement within the tea party. On the whole, liberalism is a bowel movement.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:29pmI really wish there were options to “like” posts, but man, do I like yours. I agree on almost all of this. I don’t think Christian values are wrong (being a Christian myself), but forcing them on others is wrong. I closely align with the Tea Party on -fiscal- terms, but socially the group is significantly religious, and for many people, the religion trumps the fiscal, and big government would be fine as long as it makes people uphold those values.
I disagree. America is great not because it is Christian, but because it is free. Less government influence (both fiscally and socially), and a sound fiscal footing, are the keys to the future.
Report Post »Ericben
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:50pmI get so tired of hearing about people who are “spiritual – but not religious” Being a Christian is a journey, a life-long learning experience. How does someone even know what they believe as a Christian if you do not go to church. Churches are there to challenge the christian and to make them feel uncomfortable sometimes about what they believe and keeps them from falling into complacency. Please don’t act like you are above going to church and then profess to be a christian . Churches are also like laboratories where we can be inspired by other Christians and also learn from their examples and also try to put forth our best as an example to others
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:30pmA little “holier than thou”
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:22amBrother, where two or more gathered in His name you can enter into his chambers and cling to the fold of his robe and hide in the His vast shadow of righteousness. Read ACTS. It starts out with two or more. If i was born in a barn would that make me a cow…I know a lot of church goers that do not know the essentials of Christianity.
Report Post »blessedn1982
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 11:16pmI read this post yesterday and I thought about it. There is a big difference between being a spiritual person and a religious person. Religion is a doctrine set forth by man (church). Each denomination has their own interpretation of the bible. Upon conversion the Holy Spirit dwells within us. That’s spiritual. That’s the least complicated that I can put it. No man needs to go to chuch to know what to beleive, all they have to do is pick up the Word of God and READ it. The Word has been more convicting for me than any sermon I ever heard. Nowhere is the Word of God does it say we have to go to church every Sunday morning and night and on Wednesday”s and any revival meeting that comes along. It says that we are to fellowship with our fellow christian brothers and sisters. My only prayer for you is that you do not replace Christ and His Word for the church. Christ is to be your first love, not the church.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:49pmNo
Report Post »stereojoe
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:48pmThe Tea Party is NOT a spiritual movement, rather a movement started by spiritual people who are feeling legitimately repressed by the government of the United States.
Libertarians are part of this movement, too, because they can how Christianity is taking a back seat to Islam, Paganism, Secular Humanism, and any other “new” religion which might be the antipode to a Christ-based or Judeo monotheistic religion.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:48pmEverything is a “spiritual movement” — always have the demonic and the righteous at war, behind the scenes, influencing one way or the other and intervening in human events – with God in control of course. But that‘s one Christian’s point of view (to be quickly dismissed as extreme craziness) – ha!
Report Post »Yes – I agree with DeMint – he’s a good man. The reason Tea Party people, who stand for going back to the Constitution, Founders ideas – are Christians in large numbers is because they were based on biblical principles & nearly all were Christians & stated how that particular religion was best to base their laws on for this new country & freedom. See: http://www.wallbuilders.com if you doubt that. NYTimes & CBS are libs, in cahoots with the Admin.& are out to do their part to make the Christian “right” look like crazed extremists to be avoided at all costs. All predictable strategies since the Tea Party is the biggest threat to the Dems — like Reid stating we’re fading away (they wish) — just like they said before the November elections. Surprise!!!! They’ll also be quite surprised then if they believe this, when we win by a landslide in 2012 !!!!!!!
nealb4zodd
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:46pmShould be easy . . they’re all Christian, as far as I know.
Perry comes across as fake and artificial. – -Bachmann and her “lets say happy birthday ot Elvis” moment was pretty inauthentic. She’s religious, sure. . but some argue she’s a bit TOO churchy. – -if that’s possible, — and you know .. i agree you can. if religion consumes you to a point where you can’t make a choice without God holding your hand, then ya. . that’s a problem.
I like the two Mormon-Christians. – Mormon’s are very authentic about their christianity. More importanly they dont boast or get puffed up organizing prayer meetings where they say, hey everybody, look at me. . look how spiritual i am.
Ron Paul, of course is “Baptist” but like everything in his life, he’s pretty passive about it. – - doesnt care about Iran having nukes. .doesnt care about attending services weekly.
Report Post »jackact
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:57pmYou would make a great democrat.
Report Post »The mormon you refer to is an establishment GOP hack with a lifelong presidential ambition.
His portfolio is all about compromise.
The same crap that got us into this mess in the first place.
An uninformed electorate will remain left-in-the-dark unless they wake from their slumber.
Oh, and using the term “treasonous” is not fake & artificial.
It’s the real deal.
Trouble is, you’ve never heard it before.
rangerp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:02pm“spiritual” can be confusing. It is not necessarily a good thing (even for Christians). Paul told us to test the spirits. To me, that means there are spiritual people, who are not of the right spirit.
What is interesting, is that there is no religious litmus test to be a tea pary supporter, but I believe the majority of tea party folks hold to Biblical standards. Most die hard liberals hold to humanism. Thus the reason libs like to embrace multiculturalism. they like any religon outside of judeo christain.
Using the word “Christian” is a bit confusing. Using “religion” is even worse, as it can have so many meanings. Most times, “religion” is used in a negative context in the Bible. An exception, is in the 1st Chapter of the book of James, where we are told that the true religious folks, visit the fatherless, and widows.
Some define “christian” as anyone who belongs or attends any number of so called christian churches, from Catholic to Baptist, Methodist, Presbaterian…..
Biblically, I think the word is only used twice (in Acts, and 1Peter). When I use the word, it refers to a person who has a personal relationship with Christ. A person who saw themselves as a unworthy sinner, saw Christ as a perfect savior who paid the price for sin, and accepted it. No man can look at another man’s heart and see if he is a true Christian, but he can see fruits of christians.
Interesting topic, and believe we will see some interesting answers.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:25pm@rangerp, no a Christian is not someone who attends a ‘so called Christan church”. A Christian is one who believes that Christ is our savior who gave his life for us. A Christian is a person who has given his life back to Christ.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:49pm@Shasta
I think you failed to read the entire post. You restated what I already said
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:35amMormons shun their own if one becomes a Christian…Not very family friendly when that happens.
Radical Muslims believe they can use the Mormons to further their won agenda as the radicals believe they have common beliefs…
So what do you think of them thar apples?
Report Post »DEADDOGSRUN
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:36pm@nealb4zodd,
Completely agree with you.
Report Post »claymoremacm
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:44pmwe need a Capitalist President!!!!!!
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:22pmWe need a president who loves this country the way it was before Obummer started to destroy it.
Report Post »Raymond Koepsell
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 12:59pmAgreed
Report Post »Wes Hardin
Posted on August 20, 2011 at 7:30pmWe need a president who loves this country the way it was before Obummer started to destroy it.
Report Post »*****
Sorry you missed out on the golden age of Jim Crow.
kickagrandma
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:42pmYES, WE ARE GOD’s SPIRITUAL movement, and if you have a problem with that, then you DO have a big problem. HIS NAME IS JEHOVAH, CREATOR GOD, MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. HE can take care of you if you will let HIM. HE will let you be HIS person for this old world. HE loves you like you are but way too much to let you stay the way you are. HE wants you to grow. HE wants AMERICA to grow as in mature and HE WILL see us through. Can’t beat that deal at all, folks.
Report Post »Crakaveli
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:42pmThe tea party has been hijacked by the establishment GOP. It started as a limited government movement but it is now something totally different.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:21pmMany or most replublicans, like all democrats, hate the Tea Party. This is because they are politians are mostly progressives who like ‘business as usual’ (read keep their damned jobs/power), and they do not care about us or the country. They want us to give up, let us keep going
Report Post »henryKnox
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:39pmActually, that is what you see on TV. The real Tea Party, like the one I belong to, does not put our faith in politicians. We believe in principles and not politics. Many politicians like to court our vote by claiming to be part of the Tea Party. However, if they join the establishment and start compromising principle for politics we will dump them. We showed that in the last election, we dump politicians that sell out. We primary them even if the new candidate doesn’t have as good of a chance to win. We believe that if you stand on principle you will win in the long term. We are in it for the long term and for our country to thrive in the long term.
Report Post »Trance
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:41pm“Some critics contend that Tea Party adherents are more Libertarian in nature, but Jones disagrees. His research found the majority of Tea Partiers (63 percent) saying that abortion should be illegal”
Are Libertarian’s generally pro-abortion? I consider myself mostly Libertarian, which means I general believe individual liberty should be the primary consideration with any law. But in the case of abortion, I am far more concerned with the individual that will lose it’s life than I am with the individual that did something to create that life, then considers it an inconvenience that needs to be destroyed…
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:36pmTheres nothing wrong with someone that has spiritual beliefs. I personally wont go to a man made building and listen to a flawed man tell me how I should act all the while telling me I should cough up 10% of my income. Don’t get me wrong, I have my own beliefs. I really think the Ten Comandments are pretty cool. I can apply those to what I do daily while treating people with dignity and respect.
Report Post »Remember, If you support gay rights you are tolerant and diverse, If you support Christianity, you are a right wing nut job. How did we get to this point?
Trance
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:02pmBecause Christians generally use the bible as their reason for wanting to deny equal rights to homosexuals. This is at odds with the basic premise in the United States that everyone is created equal and that each individual is entitled to equal treatment by the government.
I believe, in the future, our current denial of rights to homosexuals will be viewed in the same way that we now view previous civil rights violations such as women’s suffrage, slavery, and the treatment of freed slaves. We ask with disgust how society could allow such blatant civil rights violations. Our ancestors will also be asking how we could deny civil rights to homosexuals. And they will do it with just as much disgust, and will wonder just as much “what were they thinking?”
Report Post »Gh0stWrit3r
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:08pmLet me give you a different perspective from what you said.
Report Post »First, God created you and the Universe. God still loves you even though you are a sinner. God redeemed you by his son’s death, burial and resurrection, and then God/Jesus commanded his followers to “go and make disciples of all nations baptizing them… and teaching them to obey all which I have commanded them”. Now it gets tricky – Flawed men who sin, are pretty much the only choice we have for church leaders, since Jesus ascended to the right hand of the Father. So yes, flawed sinners/ pastors preach repentance, forgiveness, love and evangelism (hopefully from the Bible). In regards to a tithe (which actually means 10%), that is a litmus test from God to make sure you remember who created you and who is really sovereign over all your skills, blessings, talents, and yes finances. Now, you may, in your free will (given to you from God), choose to REJECT him and his Son, Jesus, but that will be your choice to be condemned to eternal torment. However, to attain eternity with God in Heaven, one must believe in Jesus as the Son of God, accepting His blood as the payment for all your sins, and a repent of your sins as you make Christ your LORD, that is obeying his commands (by walking in the Spirit not in your flesh). Jesus commands are simply put -Love the Lord your God… and Love your neighbor as yourself, everything else will fall under these two.
Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:54amFlawed man didn’t tell you to cough up 10%. Jesus did.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 2:47pmTrance.
1st. Christians can not deny anyone their rights.
2nd If your referring to gay marriage. Marriage isn’t a right. Look it up.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 3:27pm@ghostwrter – my 10% goes directly to those it was intended to help, not filtered through a system designed to pay its own overhead first. I am sure there are small churches with volunteer pastors and staff who take the tithings and use it for actually helping those who need help, but I have not found one as of yet. And the ones who line up alongside our TP presidential candidates are the worst offenders. Tithings there support large buildings and pay huge salaries all in the name of their version of a god. My God does not need my pastor to drive a Bentley and rent out huge facilities to be preached in. My God was/is humble. Too much of the TP brand of Christianity is designed to attract attention to the individuals and that is not what my God wanted.
Report Post »Gh0stWrit3r
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:14pm@Saranda.. There is only ONE God and Father in Heaven… and any pastor who takes a salary package that looks more like a Congressman’s compensation package is not the kind of pastor I would tithe to either. I attend and serve at a church where biblical truth is taught and exemplified. It’s not about numbers or making people feel good, it’s about transforming believers into committed disciples for Christ and building families around the Word of God. Mega churches are often full of wolves in sheep’s clothing and unfortunatlely do nearly as much harm to Christianity as they do good. I hope for your sake when you say my god you are referring the The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:34pmI would not call the TEA Party a spiritual party, but I would call it’s members spirtual people. Unfortunately most of the Left and Trolls like ENCINOM cannot or will not see the difference. If you can’t see, I can’t explain it to you, you wouldn’t understand…Just sayin’
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:33pmYou better believe your sweet you know what… We stand with God!!
Report Post »platitude
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:33pmFaith and freedom? Sounds a bit oxymoronic. How can you be free under the collective repression of judeo-christian slave morality.
turn the other cheek? bah
I say smite the smiter that smites you!
Report Post »Totally Domestic
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 11:34pmWhere the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY.
Holy Bible
Report Post »blattack
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:33pm“TOGETHER WE STAND”
Report Post »VOTE NO ON SOCIALISM/ OBAMA 2012
Obama is in the ring…BUT throwing the fight….. “For America”
LibertyGoddess
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:32pmEven Christians fight amongst themselves as to who is Christian. The sign should have read “Only Evangelicals Need Apply”…
Unfortunately, Evangelicals are making the tent smaller and smaller and their own bigotry is dividing good, moral people into groups and forcing them to choose.
If our Jews, Mormons, Catholics and Muslims are good enough to serve and protect this country, they are good enough to run for president and even win. We need moral, honest, individuals with character and integrity before we need a candidate with just a religious label.
Report Post »Kaoscontrol
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:31pmYea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of DEBT I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.
Report Post »Will M.
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:30pmOh the feathers you ruffle when you take a stand for whats Right!
Report Post »P.S. To the liberal media, we know how to translate your garbage.
ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:28pmI always say:
Report Post »“My Religion is Freedom and my Bible is the Constitution”
platitude
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:35pmThen I guess you have no understanding of true freedom. Liberate your mind from all archaic, superstitious, religious nonsense, and perhaps then you will understand what it means to be free.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:58pm@PLATITUDE What you said must not have been in reference to my statement, because it made absolutely no sense, whatsoever ! It was totally ambiguous and irrelevant to to my point !!
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:03pmYou claim I am An anarchist, Religious and Superstitious. Why stop there? Continue to make more false accusations in reference to my character. Contrary to the old adage, by assuming, you just make an @ss of yourself.
Report Post »platitude
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:31pmread more carefully my friend, no one called you an anarchist
Report Post »platitude
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:34pmthe moth eaten piece of parchment that is the constitution is just as bad as the bible. you are allowing yourself to be governed by cadavers. disregard the old laws and create your own, if indeed you truly desire freedom.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 1:06amPLATITUDE…..is a secular humanist.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on August 19, 2011 at 7:37am@ProbIemSoIver- Platitude’s comment was on point. Religion is not Freedom. It is slavery and totalitarianism pure and simple.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:25pmBack in October 2010. ha-ha-ha.
Tea Party grass-roots formed in Dec 2007 around Ron Paul as a reaction against neo-con Bush’s spending, endless wars, torture and bail-outs. Back then Bachmann was an obscure politician also for wars, bail outs and spending.
THREE years later, when Tea Party won the House, everybody jumped on board, some even claiming to be new Tea Party leaders. Ha-Ha-Ha.
Report Post »danfinrud
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:33pmTea party was not about Ron Paul. The tea party talked most about excessive spending and out of control Government growth. It was people comming together to discuss what was going on in the country. Ron Paul had little to do with it. But Ron Paul Fans will disagree.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 6:43pmdanfinrud, sure, not about Ron Paul, just around Rona Paul. He was the only true constitutionalist standing for 30 years. The rest always compromised for special interests either Pentagon, Wall Street or Big Labor.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:14pmThe Pauline Cult is always trying to lay claim to the Tea Party. Pretty pathetic that they can’t stand on their leader and his words alone without help to win a presidential election.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 7:19pmRational Man, If you do not like Ron Paul, free to vote for your candidate. We do not object. Who would that be Hunstman, Bachmann, Cain or Perry? All good decent people able to “run” the economy, the world and our lives. Ron Paul people like freedom, we like YOU to choose what works for you – welfare check, wars, trade union black mail, torture, bail-outs – your choice!
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