Is This China’s Secret Weapon?
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DENVER (The Blaze/AP) — A commercial U.S. satellite company said it has captured a photo of China’s first aircraft carrier in the Yellow Sea off the Chinese coast.
DigitalGlobe Inc. said Wednesday one of its satellites photographed the carrier on Dec. 8. A DigitalGlobe analyst found the image on Tuesday while searching through photos.
Stephen Wood, director of DigitalGlobe’s analysis center, said he’s confident the ship is the Chinese carrier because of the location and date of the photo. The carrier was on its second round of sea trials at the time.
A Pentagon spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
DigitalGlobe, based in Longmont, Colo., sells satellite imagery and analysis to clients that include the U.S. military, emergency response agencies and private companies. DigitalGlobe has three orbiting satellites and a fourth is under construction.
The aircraft carrier has generated intense international interest because of what it might portend about China’s intentions as a military power.
The former Soviet Union started building the carrier, which it called the Varyag, but never finished it. When the Soviet Union collapsed, it ended up in the hands of Ukraine, a former Soviet republic.
China bought the ship from Ukraine in 1998 and spent years refurbishing it. It had no engines, weaponry or navigation systems when China acquired it.
China has said the carrier is intended for research and training, which has led to speculation that it plans to build future copies.
Beijing is believed to be years away from being able to launch and recover aircraft from it as part of a carrier battle group.
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Comments (235)
jadams9845
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:10pmQuestion:
Which country has more liberty, China or USA?
Answer:
Neither, both are the same after turning NDAA into law tonight.
Welcome to the American Gulag. The US Constitution is dead.
Metalist
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:23pmI’m afraid you may be right. God Bless us all.
Report Post »LiveforFreedom
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:27pmThey have torn apart the constitution tonight!!!!!!!
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:31pmWell, now mister, I don’t know that at all. I spent several years in the Navy and that little boat is not that impressive. I see only one cat on that deck. You sound very frightened, calm down, the mean ole Chinese won’t get you.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:40pmDoes it mean anything to you that a couple times before there have been this many people on earth?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:41pmHow is it that the ancient Prophets knew what was coming? Because this has all happened before.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:44pmNations come and go but even still it isn’t the end, and it isn’t all that matters.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:46pmTwo thousand years from now people will be marrying and carrying on about an ancient country that is similar to the one they will be currently living in.
Report Post »Ruger_45
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:13amLock and Load
Report Post »jeffshepard007
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:45amMACPAPPY: Are you kind of moron? Did you even read the article, or know what Senate Bill they are talking about? The Senate has passed a bill giving the president the power to have the military detain anyone he deems a “danger” to the government, without hearing, without trial, indefinetly. Sounds like a dictarorship to me. And there are no planes on the deck of the ship. Read the artcile!!
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:53amOf Course we don’t have more liberty than Communist China! THEY BOUGHT US FAIR & SQUARE, ON THE OPEN MARKET!! (Sorry, I mean the bond market!)
Report Post »Captain Crunch
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:43amIt still has to pass the Senate and the President. It’s not law yet.
Report Post »It’s time to pray and not lose hope. Nothing escapes God’s attention.
Nathaniel Horn
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:30amOoooo, one second hand aircraft carrier with no planes. Sounds really, really scary to me. Yeah, the Chinese have such a history of world domination… Come on people, the Chinese have had the crap beaten out of them all throughout history or they have cocooned themselves within their own borders. They have to beg, borrow or steal their technology just like the old Soviet Union used to do and we all know how that turned out in the end.
The Chinese are into intrigue. Look for them to come at us sideways, not a frontal assault unless it’s defensive. Kinda like what they are doing right now here at home and around the world as we LET them destroy us economically. But they are just as vulnerable, if not more so than we are. They are brittle like ice. We may creatively morph and change and go through convolutions, but they will crack.
If they too survive the current global economic perfect wave, they will make a big show but they are really a defensive power. We’re still the greatest country on the face of the earth. That’s changing fast but we still can and probably will make the turnaround once we hit rock bottom. It’s the American way to try every single bad decision possible (quickly!) until we are scooched right up to the edge of total disaster. Then when the bricks start falling on our shoulders, we rise up and turn it all around like the Americans that we really are in our heart of hearts. It gives us something to do… :)
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:36amThe Blaze is turning into a bit of a tabloid drama queen.
Oh and screw you Your Sensi. Fate has made you a loser. Tough hand to draw but it couldn’t have happened to a more dishonest and deserving person… :)
Report Post »PoliticalSmackdown {Subscribe & Friend me on YouTube}
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:40amlock and load people.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:50amMy friends with all due respect, we got here, we can get back, it‘s not over till it’s in the ground and even then we can dig it up clean it off bringing it back to its former glory.
I love Glenn Beck but things were not as bright as some had said and things are not as dark as some have painted it. We can thank Glenn for shining light on Socialist Progressives’. Progressive ideals are nothing more than a gradual path of change and we cannot allow them to continue them to dictate the definition of language which is a Socialist Progressives’ intent. Too control our language and manipulate the conversation of ideology. Painting all who disagree as bigots, racist and liars. Mysteriously the Socialist historic pattern of behavior…
Do not threat there is a path back to reason and it’s inside of us
Report Post »Miami
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:03amWasn’t the great Bismarck taken out by a single aircraft…?
Report Post »philipzhao
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 5:32amWRONG ! Except politics, Chinese people enjoy more freedom(s), perhaps too much, than Americans. Once Obama gets re-elected , Americans will have no freedoms under the new nation by the name of United Shariah of America.
Report Post »BrotherWill
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:47amOMG! The blaze has been invaded by Ron Paul/Alex Jones cultists! Run!… oh wait…nevermind running, it wont matter because according to them the world is going to end sometime next week.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:06amIt looks like a copy of the French “carrier” that could only go in circles. Maybe the Chinese have worked out some the the kinks.
Report Post »grudgywoof
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:15amPatriots we must stand against this tyranny. Don’t tread on me! TEA!
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:30amMeh, we’ve been over there watching and listening for years. We knew and know what’s going on…they only problem we have is Obama cutting defense.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:51amLiberals are guilty destroying the constitution. Still the nation can be saved IF the American WAKE UP!
Report Post »Truthurts
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:22amThe real secret weapon is the submarine that launched the missile off the coast of California about a year ago. Remember? That’s the one that our infallible government told us, “Don’t worry. It’s just a jet vapor trail.” Just another wake up call, folks. Prepare.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:33amAnd this is the guy who as a candidate campaigned on eliminating GITMO….
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:43amDigitalGlobe, based in Longmont, Colo., sells satellite imagery and analysis to clients that include the U.S. military, emergency response agencies and private companies. DigitalGlobe has three orbiting satellites and a fourth is under construction
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I hope Bill Clinton & Barry Hussein doesn’t hold any stock in this corporation…..
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:52amtime to invoke the second amendment.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:47amHaving a Carrier and being able to use it affectively are two mighty separate and distinct issues. Americans have been at Carrier operations since they first strapped a small bi-plane to a battle ship. We’ve come along way in Carrier design…they are nuclear powered you know…all 12 of them operational can reach any point on the globe. We can project power because we have an awesome logistics chain for refueling at sea while underway, that alone took the Russians years to figure when we had been doing it for decades. All our Carriers today have Four catapults which all can be in operation at the same time if the need arises but most of the time 2-3 are used depending how fast they want to clear the deck for the landing cycle. The Carrier is in a Battle Group that protects it from enemy aircraft miles out and there is 1-2 subs lurking in the area with the group. With nearly 100 aircraft that can carry bombs and missiles its a formidable force. The Chinese have a looonnngggg Long way to go. Its their long range missiles that can hit the US is what keeps our planners awake at night.
Report Post »txn4justice
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:53amI thought it was going to be Sweet and Sour Pork or egg rolls or Moo Goo Gaipan.
One aircraft carrier does not a threat make people.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:46pm@TRUTHURTS: Ain’t that the truth? I live in California. Not the politically correct sheeple part but the fiercely independent, forested, armed and wild part and I am still wondering what the hell that was! The silence from the government on the subject is still deafening. I have a right as a Californian and an American to know who is making threats off of our shore! Not a peep out of our wonderful and responsive representatives in the government. Someone physically threatened me and my family and as a sovereign ruler of these United Stated by Constitutional edict I deserve and demand an answer. All I hear is the sound of one hand clapping, oh and crickets… My one hand is doing something else.
Damn the government. Damn them all! (except of course the Tea Party :) Time for further change in government. The Tea Party kicked ass last November. Time to finish the job and get rid of the rest of the self serving SOBs. Every last one of them.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:05pmChina is a sovereign country and has as much right to arm itself as the US. No doubt the military industrial complex loves this development as it will mean above average profits for the foreseeable future. Let‘s just hope the Chinese don’t decide in a few years to to what Reagan to the Russians did and bankrupt us with an arms race we can’t afford. Particularly given we feel a need to have 6 more of everything than anyone else.
Report Post »bobemakk
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:58pmI actually fear for my life and the lives of my children and grandchildren. China owns US, those commie bastards and now they want to take over the rest of the world starting with US.
Report Post »Ft Lauderdale Dad
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 5:51pmThis question answer part is much better if you read it w/ the voice Dwight from The Office in your head
Report Post »Mountain Mama Martha
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:32pmEliasim: Go drink some more Obama kool-aid. Maybe just a little more will finish wiping out your brain (assuming you had one to begin with) and you will quit spouting such stupid nonsense.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:50pmI cannot wait to see what Democrats will do when that carrier with its escort floatilla takes up its patrol up and down the West Coast of the US. The Chinese fighter pilots will ignore US ATC and just fly were they feel like flying. I’ll bet Mexico offers the Chinese fleet use of its West Coast port facilities.
Report Post »confusedem
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:49pmEliasim,
Report Post »I am using you posts about civilization destroying itself OK.
jmresler
Posted on December 16, 2011 at 4:32pmMy bet would be the boat doesn’t match one of our helicopter/troop ships in size. I’d chill for now.
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on December 17, 2011 at 8:19amYou actually might be right ……..
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:51pmI got news for you, folks. China is the most powerful nation on earth. You don’t like the sound of it. You don’t want to admit it. You want desperately to believe that we have some tactical or strategic advantage, but we don’t. And deep down you know that, so all that’s left to count on is that magical American something that will assure victory. And it has certainly served us well in the past, but not for a very long time. If it is to serve us again, it must first be resurrected because it ain’t breathing now. Until then, China rules.
You know I’m right.
Report Post »Shrkb8sd
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:02pmPlease share with your vast militarily experience and knowledge. You know nothing and your comments are worthless. Shut up and go back to your occupy douche bag tent.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:05pmWith all the huge profits from the tons of cheap Chinese products everyone buys here at places like Walmart, they had to spend all that cash on something.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:05pmWe can always count on you for a good laugh! Thank You!
Report Post »Shrkb8sd
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:08pmOh please share with us your vast military knowledge and experience. Your comments are worthless and and a waste of time. Please go back to your occupy dumb-ass tent and shut up.
Report Post »hayesstephen
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:14pmWhy do people like you leave your porn sites to come here and spew your filth? You are a nasty foul mouthed nitwit.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:21pmOf course China is becoming powerful, your command-in-thief is giving our secrets to China. He is committing Treason under our very noses and getting away with it.
China might out “man” us, but we out gun them.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:29pmSensei,
How much meth is coming across the border from North Korea into China?
How many drugs are flowing into Yunnan from Laos & Burma?
How many thousands of protests are there in China every day?
How you been to China?
How about religious & ethnic tensions?
Have you ever served in any military?
As others have said. Do you know WTF you are talking about, ever?
Report Post »govshrink
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:59pmWe spent 10 times what they did on defence last year and I’m sure if you look back in history that gap was much broader. They just made there first attack copter we have thousands, one aircraft carrier we have many, they out number us but fight only for nationalism we would fight for our concieved liberty. granted nukes and cyber could make us all equal in the big picture, but were so far ahead of everyone its wierd.To top it off we’ll all be broke soon.
Report Post »We’ll destroy ourselves long before the Chinese are equal to us in military might.
ConstLaw
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:11pmWOW, I am scared, it only took them 13 years to complete one carrier that Russia had mostly built before China bought it… just imagine how fast they could build one from scratch.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:16pmYou don’t know a dam thing about China. Go smoke some more dope and become even dumber than you already are. Progressives are such silly losers.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:44pm@Sensei
Report Post »To be honest, I don‘t think many Americans CARE whether or not we’re the most powerful nation in the world.
Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:02am@yoursense
Report Post »And we also know you’re a marxist idiot…..
Dodgerblueboy3
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:05amWhy don’t you go live there?
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:06amSENSI Mouth of mass destruction, and secret toxic weapon to put out in the front lines in the middle east against enemies. Could kill thousands.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:01am@govshrink
Report Post »Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:59pm
We spent 10 times what they did on defence last year and I’m sure if you look back in history that gap was much broader. They just made there first attack copter we have thousands, one aircraft carrier we have many, they out number us but fight only for nationalism we would fight for our concieved liberty. granted nukes and cyber could make us all equal in the big picture, but were so far ahead of everyone its wierd.To top it off we’ll all be broke soon.
We’ll destroy ourselves long before the Chinese are equal to us in military might.
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I’m NOT WORRIED (Think Alfred E Neuman, What Me Worry!) I heard Rush telling today about OUR NEW GREEN NAVAL FLEET, AND THE CONTRACTS TO BUY $16 per gal FUEL FOR OUR NAVY! Certainly mOTHER eARTH, WILL PROTECT US, IF WE PROTECT HER! Anyone seen algore lately?
Captain Crunch
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:55amI bet you can wait to see UN and Chinese troops rolling down the center of your street. I can see it now as they force their way through your front door. Want to know what they are going to say?
Fix your hair Sensi, it looks like those evil Americans did half a lobotomy.
Report Post »FlamingFartSyndrome
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:29ammove to china
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 5:42amCONSTLAW
How long have they been building the 911 site? what a disgrace
We cant drill for our oil
We cant have a pipe line from Canada that means 25000 jobs
We have been invaded by 20 million people that hates this country and your tax money pays for La Raza
We wont secure our border
We have a commie for a for a president
There is no Reagan to save us, just a bunch of so-so candidates
50% cant name the VP but they will vote
We cant ask for ID to vote as the TSA feels up your 13yr old daughter
We have a bunch morons in a park looking for a free ride
We have people that think a old kook that hasn’t done anything in 30yrs but talk is the answer
Should I go on? You are watching the the fall of Rome
“At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.” (A. Lincoln)
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:34amYou are clueless. I worked for DoD for over 33 years and know you are clueless. And that is all I can tell you. Have to wait for the media to reveal what we have and what we are doing. But I assure you that you are clueless.
Report Post »AIDANMAN
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:36amwhat is never factored in by the media is true americans, those that get up and work every day, making normal wages, striving against those that wish to hold them back. the media only reports the FREAKS,LOSERS, and DEVIANTS, because thats all they know. the US might get smaller if attacked , but it would only lose the states that are already lost. Those people are already lost, following a system they would recognize as the same as they have now.
Report Post »SEPARATENOW
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:19am@Sensei
Freedom and capitalism are or strategic advantages. Individualism and innovation are our strategic advantages. The lack of subjugation of the people to the will of the government and our ability to overthrow them, should it be necessary, are our strategic advantages. The Constitutional protections you enjoy here including your insane, insipid, ignorant rantings is our chief strategic advantage. The Chinese have none of these. And, just in case, we can incinerate all 1 billion of them in 20 minutes if necessary. They cannot.
Their chief strategic advantage is intellectual weaklings like yourself doing the left’s bidding oh so willingly.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:24amSo it looks as if we have owr own Blaze mlitary analyst here with YOUR SENSEI. More like an anti american commnunist agitator…..I thought you were smarter than that sensei. The Chicoms are light years behind us in tactical technology and weaponry. Yes they have the masses, but we have high tech weapons that no one has even seen, capable of taking out those masses by the thousands in a head to head battle. Even if the dinks invade the continental US and were able to get thru our first line of defenses, the resistance would decapitate their logistics until an infantry unit could move in….Put it this way, the police will be asking for the veterans for help. AND yes if we had to fight an invading enemy like the chinese, I guess I would have to protect douchebags like SENSEI, which by the way, gives me the willies…Is that your actual photo there?
Report Post »randyg45
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:36amYour Sensei wrote: I got news for you, folks. China is the most powerful nation on earth.
She evidently has no knowledge of military capabilities or strategy (ours or theirs).
There are seven dams on the Yangtze River. They can each be destroyed by something no more powerful than a cruise missile.
Half of China drowns in the resulting floods.
Half of the remainder starve within six months.
Additionally, they have no way to project conventional power beyond Asia…..
Report Post »They are the ultimate paper tiger, and they know it.
goldmind
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:52amI agree. China, is the “bomb” literally. A standing army, of 10 million zombies. Refreshed and ready for battle, unlike our troops, who have been stretched and fatigued. Soon, we may be in the rice paddies polishing up on Chinese commands. We have transformed into slouches and they have transformed into stellar killing machines. And they are great at picking American pockets.
Report Post »eagledown
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:59amre; YOUR SENSEI
Just don’t respond to this Medusa She Devil, Shi. It. Is only here to agitate you and is laughing at you.
Ignore the douche.
She. It. Whatever, replied to one of my posts. It freaked me out, I ran to lock my door grab my 1911and took a shower to wash off.
State Mental Hospitals now provide internet access.
Report Post »GLOCKU
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:19amChina has inflated their currency just like we have. When the world economy collapses, we all become third world nations! Invest in lead!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 11:52amYou will be the first to scream where are the friggin Marines? You love to think that the USA is finished militarially….not by a long shot. We maintain 12 Carrier Battle Groups with Airwings of 100 aircraft per ship that can carry nukes if need be. Not to mention the fleet of destroyers, guided missile cruisers and subs armed with tomahawk cruise missiles capable of surrounding and pummeling China from all sides. In 2009 on our 4th of July we surfaced Four Ohio Class subs, 1 in Hawaii, 1 in Guam, 1 in Japan and 1 in Diego Garcia each carrying 154 tomahawks. Show of force? You bet because we never did that before.
Report Post »dimitrisokolov
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:32pmThe US military is far superior to the Chinese military. Its not even close actually. On the other hand, the US is light years ahead of the Taliban, but after 10 years we still haven’t beaten a bunch of rag tag sandal wearing Taliban carrying AK-47s.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:58pm@SENSILESS You demonstrate the very definition of evil. Don’t believe in evil? The fish doesn‘t know it’s swimming in water either. Have a good laugh now because the joke is going to be on you later. Karma is a bitch- even more so than you.
Report Post »pandora
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:35pmActually Sensi you are only a little bit correct. Chine is positioning itself to be the world’s superpower but the U.S. still is not beatable. As the progressives march forward their plan is to disassemble as much of our military and financial power as they can. They are working on two fronts – socially and financially. They have done a great job at beaking down the economy and they have indocrinated millions into a liberal theology, but in the long run there are still Americans who will use the constitution to govern themselves. They are the hope and they will be the change. You and your liberal friends will be beaten – either by free people who believe in America’s ideals or by the terrorists with whom you have made a fatal association. As “useful idiots” you are certainly expendable to the latter. Keep sawing off the branch on which you are sitting and the fall will be…whoa you don’t want to know.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:24pmActually some sense from the senseless: ” . . . so all that’s left to count on is that magical American something that will assure victory. And it has certainly served us well in the past, but not for a very long time. If it is to serve us again, it must first be resurrected because it ain’t breathing now. Until then, China rules. You know I’m right.”
Yup — the vim and vigor of capitalism (not CRONY capitalism) and the moral and societal strength of America’s Judeo-Christianity NEEDS TO BE RESURRECTED. No doubt about it.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:24pmActually some sense from the senseless: ” . . . so all that’s left to count on is that magical American something that will assure victory. And it has certainly served us well in the past, but not for a very long time. If it is to serve us again, it must first be resurrected because it ain’t breathing now. Until then, China rules. You know I’m right.”
Yup — the vim and vigor of capitalism (not CRONY capitalism) and the moral and societal strength of America’s Judeo-Christianity NEEDS TO BE RESURRECTED. No doubt about it.
Report Post »machgun
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:25pmI have to conclude by your ignorance you have never served in the military. And by your angle a Ron Paul supporter. I have seen what our military is capable of and the only thing China has is attrition
Report Post »lildrummerboy
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 4:55pmgeez enough..do you realize that all you people have replied to this-underwear stained-WOW playing thumbsucker and they haven’t replied back…move on!
Report Post »mcdonnal
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 5:14pmHey 82dAIRBORNE, me too, Charlie Co. 501, 2nd Abn. Battle Group.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:57amYou sound scared.
Report Post »jsl55
Posted on December 16, 2011 at 7:13pmI thought that Tokyo Rose was dead.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on December 16, 2011 at 9:03pmTokyo Rose dead? Not at all, she’s alive and well and working at Fox News.
Report Post »sister1_rm
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:46pmA Chinese aircraft carrier that doesn’t carry aircraft. So what is it carrying?
They bought it from Russia and spent 13 years refurbishing it… 13 years? Why so long? Union troubles? Why go to that much time and expense to refurbish an incomplete Soviet aircraft carrier? Even as an object of study to one day build their own it shouldn’t have taken so long. There must have been more going on than a simple rebuild. Somebody knows something the rest of us don’t.
Report Post »junior1971
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:55pmThey’re so arrogant that they probably think it is invincible without armaments.) They will teach white man lesson one day!
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:22pmI know,. doesn’t that seem odd ? It does to me too. How in the world did it take them so long to refurbish it. It makes you wonder just how far ahead of the curve we are with our battle ships and war ships. Of course, it they are building super high powered lasers that they can send up into space, who needs an aircraft carrier. I hope we are doing something like that. I seen the laser under construction that can cut through 20 feet of steel in a second. That’s amazing. Wonder how far along we are with this stuff ..
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:45pmOh… there‘s that ’magic number’ 13…
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:49amYou got that right Randy….
Report Post »Buddynoel
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 10:52amIts currently carrying the next generation of Apple and Lenovo products. With the Occupy protesters blocking the ports, China has decided to start air-dropping their crap directly to your local Best Buy.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:16pmMy bet is the “research” mission is a shake down run of the ship itself to test reliability and see if they can move to mass production, or they are testing equipment for carrier take off and landing. We do still have time, as it will take them a while to get all the odds and ends of carrier tactics and operations figured out, but I do not think it would be wise to underestimate them.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 9:11pmYeah, this thing is hardly a threat to us but we’re not the only other country in the known universe. I bet this thing would scare the hell out of the Taiwanese………. :)
Report Post »Civil-Z
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:39pmThat is not the point of this carrier. Red Cell has the correct assumption about what the major threat to our nation is. EMP(electromagnetic pule) would be what the aspect of the ship that would be the scariest. I work on electronics and EMP is a very easy to build and easy to employ device and that is what would be frying electronics. How would it not destroy their ship is what you ask? It is called EMP hardening. You have to Faraday cage around your own electronics and this would be why you would care if it had aircraft, because the aircraft would be susceptible to the hardening issues. The second purpose of painting lines on the deck of the ship would be misdirection. You think it is for aircraft but in fact it is for making it look less dangerous because where are the weapons platforms? The ship is the weapon and it would wreck the modernized systems that rely too heavily on electronics, chips, and computers. If you don’t believe this concept is formidable go to:
Report Post »http://www.amazing1.com/emp.htm
This is something you can make at home, but with billions at your fingertips in funding this concept can made efficient and massive( possibly directional and have long range capability). Do research on this concept and you will see that it is fairly simple with some Electronic Engineers and huge amounts of natural resources such as copper, lead, gold, cobalt and ask yourself…..do they have these things?We must be awake and vigilant!
TNT_Party
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:56pmWhat Civil Z says is spot on folks
Report Post »Boomer52
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:10pmWould EMP have a effect on deployed subs?
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:23pmBoomer52-
‘theoretically’, no, because the water should/would conduct the EMP in all directions simultaneously, away from the source, but, then …
I’m not currently engaged in super-secret EMP research at this time, either…
either way, EMP = ‘bad kitty’ under ‘useful’ conditions.
Report Post »judyaz
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:17pmI had a dream 50 years ago. It was a nightmare. I dreamed that Americans were in their homes and 2-3 Chinese soldiers came door-to-door with hand-held laser guns and hunted us down. I couldn’t get away. I couldn’t imagine why I dreamed it or how that could ever happen.
Report Post »(That was before the laser was invented or used as a weapon, I think. And what would a kid know? For my science fair project in a year or two I presented the concept of light that would travel in a straight line, and this could be done through a ruby crystal. I only got honorable mention. Some kid who copied a magazine article on what foods the astronauts might eat in space won. Judges didn’t know what to say about new ideas.)
We haven’t heard of laser hand-held weapons, have we?
Let’s ask God to guide and protect us.
judyaz
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 11:48pmMy goodness.
Report Post »Does anyone actually know what might happen to our household electronics if there were several EMP blasts overhead? Is there a way to protect our computers, etc.? I hear different info., like mostly power supplies in appliances at the end of long power lines (such as the power company lines or household wiring) are likely to be shorted? Then I hear Glenn say buy an old car (before they had computers? Or buy an extra coil and what to replace in that car?). Others say if the EMP is too high in the atmosphere it will bounce off the ionisphere, like long range radio, and go somewhere. Others say it will affect electronics depending on distance from the source, such as 50-100 miles? Others say it will knock out the grid. What’s the truth. And where can we get the information, if there’s a way to protect some things we have? Thanks!
2theADDLED
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:21amI wonder if are army still trains how to do the oldschool way and not rely on GPS and
Report Post »other electronics if they do not we are in for big trouble sometimes oldschool is the best way.
Captain Crunch
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:28am@judyaz
What Glenn said about purchasing a new coil for your car makes sense. Also purchase a spare computer for it because the ignition timing and fuel injectors are all controlled by the computer. (about $100 for a used one).
Report Post »There are some things you can do to protect electronic equipment, but it would be a bit difficult. During WW2 manufacturers such as Philco Corp and others would encase all their components in lead foil to protect them from EMP bursts which happens when a nuclear detonation occures. The component (semi-conductor) would be shielded as the electromagnetic burst could not penetrate the lead. Lead and concrete is how you shield electronics from EMP. If I was one to prepare before had I would be very selective about what to protect because space would be limited. I’m sure many of you have better ideas than me. I’d take my all band shortwave radio, VHF/UHF old style police scanner (not a newer digital type), stungun, compact amateur radio equipment, etc and place it in a heavy duty military type ammo box(es). Seal it for water proofing with lots of silica for moisture absorbtion ( soda crackers work too), and bury it under ground atliest 2-3 feet. After that pour a concrete slab over it several inches thick. It would take some work to retreve it but I’d be fairly confident that my equipment would still be in working condition…that is, if I survived what I was protecting it from. Protect your unregestered guns in a simular way. Like I said, I’m no ex
Captain Crunch
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:46am@judyaz
Report Post »I had a dream I was running from an American military armored vehicle. I ran and dove behind some kind of wall in my dream….but almost hurt my wife laying in bed next to me when I made my move. She was not amused. lol
BOMUSTGO
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 6:32amSince a few of us have had some dreams I thought it would be a good time to tell a dream I had. It was about twenty years ago.I saw a double decker rail car, silver in color with two rows of small round windows.I was then shown the inside of this rail car and it had rows of benches and shackles for people’s feet.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 8:25amInstead of worrying too much about your home electronics, worry about the power grid. It goes down and you have no electricity, or running water (no pumps or controls for the water system, including sewer). Radio equipment wasn‘t purposely protected against EMP during WW2 because they didn’t know about it then. It wasn’t until nuke testing a Bikini atoll did they realize that there was such a thing. EMP wouldn’t affect basic models of appliances like stoves, refrigerators, washers and dryers IF they are mechanically controlled, i.e., knobs. While in the Army we protected electronic parts by storing them on top of rubber mats inside of a metal storage cabinet. The metal cabinet was grounded to divert the EMP away from the parts.
Report Post »Navy5170
Posted on December 16, 2011 at 12:40amYes, very much spot on. With 4 high flying aircraft they could cover all of the US and parts of Canada. The EM Pulse deployed over the US would nullify everything electronic, including cell phones. Cars, ships, radar, missile defense systems, Power plants, hospitals, computers; anything with a computer chip would be rendered useless, within 4 days or less we would be attacking anyone with food and water. Sewer systems would be offline as well as gas plants. Disease would be rampant. 3rd world country my ***. We would be back in the Dark Ages and unprepared for survival. The dead would be in the hundreds of Millions within a month or less. The EM pulse could easily be deployed from aircraft launched from a carrier. They would only need 1 catapult to launch a lot of aircraft. As for our arsenal of advanced weaponry; can you say “USELESS”?
Report Post »whatthecrazy
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:35pmGreat while we are here sittin back watching our country go to he!! in a hand basket, there is a world of deeta dees gathering all of our secrets because our government is helping them to get them so that they can finish us all off……………..
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:39pmOn the money.
Report Post »Libertarian
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:36pmIm really not worried about China, they are an appendage of the US. China is sitting on a financial and housing bubble that is about to pop.
The greatest threat to our security is our economy.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:49pmLibertarian
I keep reading Zerohedge.com & it is worse than listening to Glen, but it is the truth.
Glen is actually seems less depressed, because he got out form the thumb of corporate media & is calling them like he sees them. He also has gotten his family away from all the leftists in NYC & that seems to improved his mood.
Everything the Fed does to help out only has a half life of 2 weeks or so. The bankers screwed us. The Tea Party was right to oppose TARP & were way ahead of OWS
Report Post »Netsurfer2
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 2:43amNot to mention that we have worldly corporations that probably spill the beans more than we can count!
All of our technology has been around the world and not only plays against them, but also against us! Our hands are tied behind our backs with environmentalists coming from all sides while they happily make anything they want over there! Our government sides with the world government right now and I would not bet against that they do listen to the world governments agenda! It’s not like they have not sold us down the river! I’m sure inflation is their next move on us and then probably famine…. who knows, we might get out of this alive if they really show their colors? Not like they treat their citizens with any rights or really have any freedoms! Execution is normal in China for criminals, even for crimes involving drugs! You never know how many were really innocent??? And they want to govern us??? I’m sure our government of lawyers really knows what they are doing… LOL and even cares about little ole me! Do we really have any choices left???
Report Post »TJexcite
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:33pmNice artificial reef they have there.
Still if they do use it in any act of aggregation they might as well also turn off the millions of “Made in China” factories and turn the cargo ships back as they will no sell one thing in North America again no matter how cheep (cost and quality) they make it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:40pmI get the gist of the post — submariners always say there are two things at sea; subs and targets. How many holes would it take to send her under?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:12am@libertarian
Report Post »Correction, the greatest threat to our liberty, is our Federal Govt.
USA1Patriot
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:33pmChina doesn‘t require launch and recovery of it’s aircraft, like any other nation. All they require is the launch.. the other part is part of their long range birth control program. China becomes stronger as their population decreases. That is why I’d never invest in becoming part of the Chinese Space Cadets.. it’s a one way ticket Baby!!!
Report Post »Publius Novus
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:32pmIt would be a tragedy if it were to hit an old WW2 mine or perhaps a poorly placed North Korean made bomb in the area….(hint hint submariners).
Report Post »last frontier
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:32pmThere sailing around in a clunker but you can be sure a couple of Chinese versions of state of the art carriers are under construction.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:31pmChi-Coms says this is the numba’ (#) 1 Aircraft-Carrier than American money can buy, lol.
Btw, don‘t order numba’ (#) 2. It comes w/ flied lice. And how come noodles in the bag aren’t free anymore?
Report Post »Jubarnes87
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:03pm….. I am giving you a gold star sticker.
Report Post »Just_One
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:29pmA Soviet era Chinese refurbished aircraft carrier than can be seen from space is supposed to be some nerve rattling secret weapon? Hey, more power to them
Report Post »Dug2Dark
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:29pmI only hope that carrier is better then the crap I’m forced to buy @ walmarts, that says made in china
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:34pmWhy would you want it to be better?
Report Post »M1A2_Tanker
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:44pmWhat? Who “forces” you to buy anything from China-Mart?
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:27pmThat is the least of our worries. What we should be worried about is their EMP nukes they have aimed at us. All it would take is 2-3 of them dropped 40 miles above the USA and we would be sent back to the stone age. When that happens, they will be able to rule the world.
Report Post »Boomer52
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:07pmRemember…There are over 150 MILLION Americains with ATLEAST one gun!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:26pmCHINA’s ULTIMATE SECRET WEAPON…. the American LEFT…
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:30pmIt worked for Hitler until January 1,1939.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 1:28amAnd it’s nearly totally deployed!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:26pmWe need to stop buying crap from China, and blow up the 3 gorges damn and be done with China once and for all.
Report Post »Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:25pmIn mid-October I said on this website that China is the MAGOG of the Bible. It is the lead enemy that comes against the Israelite nations and the land of Modern Day Israel in the last days. I also said that along with China/Magog is a great horde of other nations, and I listed Iran, Iraq, and Russia, to name a few. I said that before Obama announced that he was bringing the troops home from Iraq before Christmas and that he was quitting Iraq.
Report Post »China will build itself up as a military power, but in the end they will be destroyed by God Almighty, along with their great horde, because that is what Ezekiel tells us will happen to this China/Magog.
The sad fact about China’s build up is that The United States of America has enriched their enemy…China. We have helped to build up China, much to our own detriment, and we don’t even realize it. End time prophecy is moving in on us more rapidly then we understand, and we act like sheep going to the slaughter, ignoring any warnings that God is sending our way. Let me say again, as I said in mid-October…we are going to face this enemy one day on the battlefield. We better begin to rebuild a bigger and better military. I am amazed that we let one of our high tech drones walk straight into the hands of our enemies, and did absolutely nothing about it. We are just asking for trouble. Not a good thing.
BOMUSTGO
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:35pmAnd Europe is making Russia rich by buying oil from them.We are aiding the enemy.. The world stage is being set…. I was researching the Neutron bomb yesterday and it sounds exactly like what happens to Israel’s enemies in Zech 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:35pm… China’s secret weapon? Looks like a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier! Well, meet an OHIO CLASS Submarine … hey China, did you just blink? China is a pack of puzzies …
Report Post »Mary M. Tebbe
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:46pmbomustgo: Nice to hear from you. It‘s been awhile since I’ve been on.
Report Post »TDOM
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 4:14amThe drone appears to have our stealth secrets – It kinda makes it hard for our B2 pilots to sneak up on anybody when the POTUS fails to take care of business – I guess its hard to take care of business when you no nothing about business.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:24pmI thought B O was their secret weapon as he has secured the canadian border while leaving the southern border open for invasion .
Report Post »chips1
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:31pmIf it was a secret, then we wouldn’t know he was Americas enemy. But we do..
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 7:37amX-el presidente Clinton helped them out greatly.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:24pmThe major problem is they used lead paint, bought a russian design, and if you flip it over and look on the bottom, it says, “Made in China”. They will be able to use it 2 tmes before the propellor falls off.
Report Post »TDOM
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:23pmIf you zoom in im thinking tugboats – its so much scrap metal.
Report Post »hcartexas
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:21pmChina now has ships made of metal? China has lots of men, but a very very very poor army/navy/airforce…….
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:31pmYou mean like the W88 tech the stole from the U.S. during Clinton era.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:21pmNaw, they picked it up at a yard sale earlier this year in California when they shot a missile from a sub.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 10:32pmI thought the bought it from Russia or the Ukraine & refurbished it.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:20pmSo China’s carrier is built on top of a rusting Ukrainian hulk with major propulsion problems. And last, but not least, they are years away from being able to launch or recover aircraft. I’m already shakin’!!!!
Let’s find the damn drone that went down and blow it to hell.
Report Post »bobemakk
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 3:59pmMy father was a first Lieut. in the 82nd airborne during WW2. Thanks for your service, and I agree with all you said.
Report Post »boltach
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:20pmI thought China had a secret weapon that essentially fried the circuits of aircraft carriers and made them obsolete?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:15pmWe already have 11 of these, with 3 more planned, and I think we are re-outfitting one.
Regardless, we are SO winning on this front–I’m not impressed by China.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:17pmI think they will loose a lot of planes and pilots just training them to land on that carrier.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:21pm@BOMUSTGO – Now thta’s one Youtube video I want to see!!!!!!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on December 15, 2011 at 12:43am@fhe third archon
Report Post »You only WIN against your bankers for so long… Then they win !
BOMUSTGO
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:11pmThey must have bought that from the Russians.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on December 14, 2011 at 9:22pmI did some research…..The 67,500 ton ex-Soviet aircraft carrier Varyag (Admiral Kuznetsov class), which was only 70% completed and floating in Ukraine, was purchased through a private Macau tourist venture in 1998. Following her troublesome tow to Dalian shipyard, the carrier has undergone a long refit. Varyag had been stripped of any military equipment as well as her propulsion systems prior to being put up for sale. News reports state that she is being fitted out to enter operational status.
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