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Is Vanderbilt University Denying Religious Freedom to Christian Groups on Campus?

Vanderbilt Says Christian Groups Must Amend Club ConstitutionsIt‘s a case of religious freedom versus one university’s nondiscrimination policies.

Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee, is making headlines after a Christian fraternity, Beta Upsilon Chi, asked an openly gay member to resign. Upon leaving the group, the young man filed a discrimination complaint and now college administrators are trying to figure out whether the campus organization violated the school’s nondiscrimination policy.

Of course, this incident has grown into a much larger controversy in which university administrators are reviewing all student-led organizations. As a result, officials are concerned about specific clauses that five Christian campus groups have in their constitutions.

These clauses require members of the groups to share their religious beliefs, something that didn‘t concern campus administrators until the student’s complaint was made. Now, the school wants the constitutions amended and the controversial clauses dropped.

If the Christian groups refuse to comply, they may lose their official affiliation with the campus, be denied access to facilities and equipment and potentially lose funding from student fees — all major losses that would severely impede their operations and existence.

Vanderbilt Says Christian Groups Must Amend Club ConstitutionsWhile administrators are allowing the groups to continue operating under a “provisional status,” no official resolution has come to fruition and the students have not yet complied to amend their constitutions.

Although campus leaders are being tight-lipped, Jim Lundgren, senior vice president and director of collegiate ministries for InterVarsity, a sponsor for one of the campus groups under fire, has taken a firm stance, saying, ”We should be able to select our leaders according to our criteria.”

Carol Swain, a professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt, is speaking out about her opposition to the university’s handing of this situation as well. In an op-ed for the Tennessean earlier this month, she wrote:

This hastily conceived policy has the potential to destroy every religious organization on campus by secularizing religion and allowing intolerant conflict. Carried to its logical extension, it means that no organization can maintain integrity of beliefs. Christians can seek to lead Muslim organizations, Muslims can seek to lead Jewish ones, and Wiccans can seek to lead Catholic fellowships. The policy encourages people holding antithetical views to infiltrate organizations they seek to destroy.

In the Vanderbilt student media, InsideVandy.com, student Stephen Siao also railed against the administration’s policies, writing, “We cannot let the university start chipping away the faith that founded this country from our campus. Though it may seem popular to “compromise” nowadays, when it comes to the present assault on our faith, we must stand firm and never compromise.”

He continued, “Now is the time for all Christians and conservatives on this campus to stand firm. If we stand on principle and conviction—and stand together—we will win.”

The university likely finds itself in a tough position, as officials seek to defend diversity, while allowing for groups and students, alike, to self-govern their clubs and organizations. But with faith standing at the forefront of these Christian groups’ missions, it’s a wonder why clubs would be restricted from requiring leaders to share their faith. If, indeed, this is the case, the students may find themselves with many sympathetic supporters as this free-speech battle rages on.

(h/t World on Campus)

Comments (120)

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  • jessieH
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 10:15am

    So, we shut them all down & start over.

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    • amanfrafo
      Posted on September 27, 2011 at 12:17am

      How does an “openly gay” person even get to join. He should have been denied membership from the git go.

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    • amanfrafo
      Posted on September 27, 2011 at 12:19am

      Let’s let men join sororities and vice versa…or has that happened already?

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    • Bellajewels
      Posted on September 29, 2011 at 12:14pm

      What I don’t understand is why a gay person would want to be part of a fraternity that clearly holds different religious beliefs? Yes, they can love God. But if their lifestyle goes against the beliefs held by the fraternity they’re not going to feel fully accepted anyways. I don’t know why this young man would want to inflict that on himself.

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    • gracentruth
      Posted on October 4, 2011 at 1:47am

      Amen and amen. Peace,

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:59am

    this is what they do, these communist gay anti-Americans deliberately join the Christian clubs only to be able to destroy them from the inside. as soon as they have their opportunity they are screaming discrimination and the obama communists come running to defend them and shut the group down

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    • goatrope67
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:08am

      Yeah, it’s not even possible that a gay man or woman truly believes in the Christian faith system. The “gays” are only out to destroy your religious beliefs, one school organization at a time. As for the communist part, I thought that was only Atheists. I mean, if these people are Atheists, then they would literally burst into flames as soon as they touch a bible. So, it makes sense that they aren’t Atheists, since there have been no fires at the school.

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    • JRook
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:53am

      Religious groups or similar social engineering groups such as Gay Lib, etc. should not be affiliated with the University and certainly should not received any student derived funding. That would clear all of this up. They all have members and should support their own belief oriented groups and activities.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 12:34pm

      Yo goatrope:
      Honestly…who cares about diversity as an issue in of itself.
      It is demonic for one do whatever they want and everybody has to accept it.
      If he wants to be gay… be gay … find a gay friendly group.
      If a group doesn’t want gays for what ever reason… same principle… no gays.

      IT’S CALLED FREEDOM …yo
      your “diversity” is sin to me
      my “righteous” is bigotry to you,
      Sorry my “foundation’ is not built apon “you” or your paper and thought
      Call me a bigot… could care less……. know why? cause I KNOW I am not.
      So, in your SELFrighteousness you LIE about me = false accusation.Yeah, you really are standing on solid ground!
      You also should read your own post , as I believe you condradict yourself more than once….good day

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    • goatrope67
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 3:34pm

      Dear Mr. 4Truth2All:

      The paper and thought I mention was directed at the bible and faith. Since I am an Atheist, this means it wasn’t my paper and thought, but yours. Bigotry is being devoted to your own prejudices and beliefs no matter the cost to others. Since this seems to perfectly encompass the conversation we’re having, it means I do not contradict myself. Yo. While you may not agree with me, and I may not agree with you, our conversation is an integral part of the Constitutional values this country is built on. So, if you don’t agree, fine. I can live with that. But don’t expect that I will just cower under the volume of vitriol. It didn’t work for my mother. It won’t work for you.

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    • lylejk
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 6:32pm

      I agree with you. If you’re gay, join a gay group; I’m sure there are plenty of such groups in colleges now a days. If I had a child who thought he/she wanted to go the Vanderbelt I would say no way. If I was an alumni of Vanderbelt, I would say it will be a cold day downstairs before I give you a penny. I’m sorry if this offends, but Christianity and homosexuality does not mix. It’s that simple. :)

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Yo goatrope67;
      I know what you meant by the paper and there not mine, I just stand in agreement with them.
      Bigot has nothing to do “with the cost to others’ as you add to the meaning. Actually that paper you talk about would say that I am doing the exact opposite anyway, so that does not help your position. Which is one reason why I stand in agreement with it. Per the meaning this also makes you just as much a bigot as me then because you stick to your beliefs. Bigotry is not usually used with this meaning in mind and we both know that. I am not asking you to cower, and if I came across as vitriolic I offer my apologies. As for the contradiction it is there… try paper reading.

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    • goatrope67
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:37pm

      @4Truth2All, you’re right, I am just as much a bigot in that I firmly hold on to my beliefs and prejudices. It makes me just as likely to cast aspersions on yours as it might for you. So, my hat’s off to you. Your point is taken. Not agreed with, just taken. This story, and many like it are examples of intolerance, yet they are also used as tools to express an opinion of intolerance that fits the arguments of those that agree there is a problem. I am not one that agrees there is a problem. I‘ve seen many examples where religious freedoms are alive and well and when I see a story like this it makes it hard to believe that anyone’s religious freedoms are being trampled. For every story like this there are hundreds where the freedom of religion plays out quite well. We just have to remember to stop seeing an individual story as the proof that the world is falling apart.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 27, 2011 at 12:55am

      Yo goatrope67:
      Intolerant…unwilling to grant or share social, political or professional rights…

      So, who is intolerant here; I have never said that this gay person cannot be in a frat, neither do they. They are only saying that he does not conform to the rules of their particular organizition. Which means that they do not deny him this social right. If that was the case then they would be saying that gays cannot have frats. This is not being done. So if your court case rests on this premise it would be in great jeopardy.
      The problem is this…. I don’t allow smoking in my house. If someone would go to light a smoke I would nicely tell them ( and have ) that I am intolerant of smoking in my house. Do I hate this person because they smoke, absolutly not. Obviously I don’t use the word intolerant… my point being again the word is used to bran christians as hateful, which most of the time is not true. Not only that but my opinion would be the opposite is usually the reality.

      I also don’t know what world you are looking at, but it ain’t getting better, and these kind of issues are more and more frequent. This I know without a doubt.

      Do you not find it odd at the least that a gay man would go to the christian frat. He knows there is going to be a problem. So this all sounds intentional. Intolerance might be more on the one unwilling for the christain frat to exist equally. As the article reads there seems a possibility they not be able to continue. Goal acheive

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:54am

    the very word diversity has come to mean one thing= you either are for the complete degradation and destruction of AMERICA & her Values that made us Great or we will hunt you down and destroy you

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  • TWO BITS
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:53am

    It seems that a gay activist, probably an ACLU wannabe, deliberately provoked this situation. Aside from the religious freedom issue, what has happened to the freedom of association?

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    • Moonbat
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:43am

      Freedom of association is not the issue. These campus groups are funded with student fees. Should a gay student be required to pay for an organization that excludes him?

      If campus organizations want to exclude people, they have every right to do so — but they should pay their own way.

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    • usmc85
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 2:07pm

      Freedom of association is the issue, Moonbat. The “Christian” students are paying for organizations that are opposed to their belief system also. You do not have the right to force a group to change its core beliefs to include you, just because they are allowed to use the University’s facilities.

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    • Moonbat
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 3:00pm

      Still no. I doubt very much that the campus GLBT groups, for instance, exclude Christians. And if they do, they shouldn’t get funding, either. It’s despicable to make me pay for something and then specifically exclude me from using it. Again — why can’t they just pay for their own stuff?

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    • hidden_lion
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 4:32pm

      The christian students are required to pay fro the gay and lesbian clubs….Basically, they should not have any clubs of any kind…That would solve this. Nobody should be allowed to have any kind of group. Why have Americans become such a whiny, weak group of people. Everyone blames everyone else for their inability to accomplish things, they have to join groups that don’t agree with them to make a point or to destroy it…It has all become so absurd.

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    • amanfrafo
      Posted on September 27, 2011 at 12:26am

      Christianity and gays mix like Islam and freedom. Why wouldn‘t these Christians just verbally assault the gay’s hypocritical Christianity until he quits the group. Shun him until he moves out.

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  • the point
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:40am

    Why mention Vanderbilt ? Seems to me as though all colleges , universities , and schools are against the Christians. You don.t need a Harvard degree to figure that out , Just look around.

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    • NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:52am

      Vanderbilit is a private university that has allowed these religious clubs and their charters/rules to exhist in the past. Now after a complaint from a student against a Christian group the university wants to change/take control of these groups. SHAME ON YOU Vanderbilt.

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    • Hayabusa
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 10:56am

      Sadly, this is what all our great Christian universities have eroded to. Vanderbilt started as an Episcopalian school and now won’t stomach Christians.

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  • rdietz7
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:40am

    What is wrong with asking him to resign? They didn’t break any rules or laws by asking the homosexual man to not be in the bible study. Homosexuals that continually engage in this sin are bringing hell fire upon themselves and anyone standing next to them. Call me homophobe, but they are the worst part about a free society. God judges us all when the gays get in power and fundamentally transform America. They are filth. The feminates and lesbians and homosexuals should stay with their own away from everyone else so we don’t get caught in the wrath of God when he judges them.

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    • goatrope67
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:17am

      It is very clear that as long as the diversity of a particular group does not include the homosexuals that you would be okay with it. That, is not diversity. That is bigotry built on a foundation made of paper and thought. Kierkegaard said that “How absurd men are! They never use the liberties they have, they demand those they do not have. They have freedom of thought, they demand freedom of speech.” In my estimation, thought seems to be underrated in this country.

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    • rightwinger76
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:54am

      @goatrope
      I am pretty sure nobody here is concerned with diversity. Diversity is synonymous with compromised principles. Maybe you logged on to this site by mistake.

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    • goatrope67
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 3:25pm

      @Rightwinger…no, I did not log in to the wrong site. I had to actually create a user name and login to be able to make this post, so it would seem to me that rules out the possibility of a mistake.

      What principles do you compromise by working towards a standard of diversity? If they are purely religious principles then I have nothing I can really say to that since I am an Atheist and my lack of a belief system makes it difficult for me to understand your view. Since we’re talking about the story at Vanderbilt it would seem that the principle in this one is purely religious. However, not all diversity is compromise of religious principles. In the military we are taught that diversity is means more than just having proportional numbers of ethnically or culturally diverse individuals. It also means curbing your desire to tell a Polack joke, or spin a yarn about some sexually explicit bedroom event. It also means keeping an eye out for discrimination against all members of the group. This is not compromise of principles, it is shaping the environment for everyone to be an integral part without fear of harassment.

      Anoth

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    • lylejk
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 6:47pm

      This one’s to goatrope67. Obviously being a Christian means that you accepted the Lord Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and asked the Holy Spirit to reside within. Even though we no longer are under the dictates of Jewish Law (indeed we have accepted His gift of Grace), once you are one of his children, you do not want to be disobedient to His laws and will and trust me when I tell you that being Gay is not God’s will. He destroyed whole nations because of it.

      Now that I got that part of my back, you can understand that if a Group is a Christian one, they have a right to decide that only Christians may belong? Much like other groups have their rules (I wouldn’t be allowed to join Mensa for instance. lol), a person will only qualify if they meet those criteria.

      I see no reason for this gay person to join such a group but to make it painful for that group. That’s what these activist do. Again, this gay person can join another group that may welcome them. That’s what a real group does; they welcome there own. The only way to not have any perceived discrimination is to band all groups and I don’t think Vanderbilt will do this any time soon. :)

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  • Volsense
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:25am

    Carol Swain, the political science and law professor from Vanderbilt, is opposing the way that Vandy is handling the situation. She is undoubtedly one of the most brilliant black conservative women in the world. When she speaks everyone should listen. Her positions on every matter are always well founded and supported by fact. There are ridiculous loons in the leadership of Vanderbilt as in every liberal controlled university and she is the bastion of reality there.

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    • momprayn
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 10:20am

      Yes, I didn’t know about her until I saw her on Hannity and was very impressed. Her background is very interesting and she’s a Christian – think God has raised her up to help with this kind of stuff. Think He is/has done the same at other colleges — hearing about revival among the youth and at these Ivy League colleges like Harvard — they are standing firm against this satanic onslaught. Pray for MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Doc
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:25am

    Will you stand on principle or capitulate ? Judas…

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  • ...EriK
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:23am

    This comment is going to offend someone, but I make it anyway. I believe we are all sinners in the eyes of the Lord worth of (spirtual) death (going to Hell). I do not debate whether it is environmental or genetic, but being gay is just another one of those sins. Christ died for our sins, but that does not entitle us to get a free pass to continue in those ways. Thus, if the gay person, or any sinner acknowledges their sin, repents, feels guilt and remorse for commiting these sins, and desperately tries to refain from recommitting those sins, then I think the Christian organizations should welcome those members in the spirit of being like Christ. If those members flaunt their sins, and encourage others to follow their ways, then banishment in order.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:54am

      You are intirely correct. I would add we are to love everyone, but we don’t have to associate with those we feel sorrow for. If they already are our friend or family, we can continue to love and encouage them and pray for them, but a bit of a spiritual distance is in order, same as any law breakers. I never feel good about backing off, but our spiritual well being counts too.

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    • momprayn
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 10:25am

      ERIK – It’s my understanding he was flaunting it b/c they said he was “openly gay”…….if so, I agree with the Christian group….(but continue to pray for him)

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    • ...EriK
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 10:42am

      MOMPRAYN… I would agree with your interpretation even though I chose to distinguish between open, as in acknowledging the sin, and flaunting as continuing within the sinning ways without remorse or guilt. It is kind of like being “in the closet,“ or ”out.” In either mode you can be repentant, or not.

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    • Kingjoelking
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Even though I defend this Frat for being able to make it’s own rules as who can join. Just like the Frats that are male only, female only, African American only………………………… I find it interesting that a “Christian” organization would kick someone out based upon there sexual preference. I dont remember the part in the New Testament or any examples in the New Testament that suggest that we should judge one another. In fact I remember reading about Jesus accepting people regardless of what their profession was, even whores and money lenders were given respect by Jesus.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 1:03pm

      He does not sound repentant…..excuse me… but he is sueing them… come on!
      “ what do the righteous have to do with the unrighteous”
      if a man in the church is not willing to repent of his sin throw him out to the devil in the hope that he will come to his sences and repent and if he does WELCOME him back.

      That ladies / men IS LOVE!
      You can ask someone to leave respectfully
      I work with teenagers… I do not compromise! I respect them cause I love them, because I love them I respect them, and that is from the first moment I lay eyes on them. I have earned their respect because of this. I do not expect an unsaved teenager to walk holy, but there is a process of willingness, if not then there is discipline,and I am probably to forgiving at times.

      I don’t allow smoking in my house, I am not being disrespectfull if someone new comes into my house and goes to lit up and I respectfully punch them upside there head (just joking), I have had to break a few fingers though. But I always say something first…respectfully

      Respectfully….blessings
      God knows what he is doing… do it his ways

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    • JazzyB
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:09pm

      @erik

      Please don’t take this as a slam, because it is not meant to be. God loves everyone, including the gays. However, he does hate their sin. Once we receive God’s grace and mercy by accepting the gift of Jesus Christ as our substitute for our own personal sin, there is nothing that we can do to add or subtract from that grace. It was a “gift from God, lest any man boast.” Every Christian is at a different spot on the same road to becoming more like Christ. That is done from the inside out by the work of the Holy Spirit.

      To everyone…about the article. I believe that it was not saying he couldn’t be in the group. It said he couldn’t be in leadership as per the bylaws of the organization. It is possible he hid his “homosexuality” out of embarrassment. Maybe he is a Christian, but has not been delivered from the lifestyle by the Holy Spirit. We really don’t know his true intentions or his heart. It is no different than someone who smokes cigarettes. The addiction and habit are harder to break than most realize that haven’t smoked. The same may be the case with the kid. Our commands are simple. Love God and love others. That means that we treat others with respect as a human being WITHOUT regard for their actions or sins. I think the organization had a right to ask him to step down from leadership. He had to have hidden his “preference” in order to be selected to a leadership position.

      Jazzy

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:21am

    I don’t find it surprising if they are.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:17am

    So now he goes to the MUSLIM group on Campus and gets the same treatment. What happens then? I would love to know. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS!!!!!! If this doesn’t get the blood bioling, nothing will! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121391832473590285.html

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  • gwssacredcause
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:17am

    March 27, 1854 House Judiciary Committee Report; The Founders said during the Revolution “Had the people a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that revolution would have been strangled in its cradle….In George Washingtons’ farewell address he said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.” If there is not room for the Christian religion in our nation we will soon fail to exist as a nation, these educated persons at our Universities need to gain that wisdom and knowledge, NOW!

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  • NuffSaid
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:17am

    I wonder what this nation would have been like if, in the 1960′s, the Democrats had decided to pay women to keep a husband rather than have a baby.

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  • wisehiney
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:05am

    The good part about our country being broke is watching these idiots losing funding and enrollment and laying off the liberal weasels working there.

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  • JQCitizen
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:02am

    I think this world has gone nuts. Between a Black Panther symathizer quoting the Constitution, and this story, it seems that UP is DOWN, and DOWN is UP.

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  • GeorgieJo
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:01am

    Mikey MooreHead and Vannie Jones coming to speak at VANDY?
    Nashville publishes BIBLES
    PRINT MORE.

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:52am

    If this was a non-religious liberal group the University wouldn’t pay the least bit of attention to the complaint. If a Gay club kicked out a member who was a straight male and he complained about, no on would take him seriously, nor should they.

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    • GodHatesFigs
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:05am

      Why it’s this straight male joining this hypothetical gay club?

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:15am

      Why did a gay man join a Christian fraternity?

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  • Mandors
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:50am

    What another anti-religious situation in the land of Gore?
    Must be the carbon footprint of his mega mansion stepping on people’s brains.

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  • louise
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:43am

    Sounds to me like this is gearing up for a ruling about which constitution trumps the other! Will it Vanderbilts, or the constitution of any Christian group associated with Vanderbilt? In the unholy name of tolerance, this will go down on the side of Vanderbilt.
    If you tolerate all things, you stand for nothing.

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  • StonyBurk
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:37am

    If a group may not govern itself-and set charter defining who will be recognized as member of that group — then there is NO purpose for the group. so long as the group is legal. The clause that speak to right to free association, and freedom of assembly etc. That niggling little First Amendment is not
    cashiered when one is on Campus. Indeed the Fundamental Law The twice passed Northwest Ordinance Article III Religion,Morality, and Knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. “Ought prove precedent in discussing Law v. Education. Unless an openly Gay student is willing to put Jesus Christ as Lord of his/her life and is born anew then the only purpose such a one would desire to join
    a Christian group -would be subversive /destructive. And the Group has every right to defend against its destruction.

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  • norma55
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:35am

    Let’s see since—August 2011 Vandy has incorporated “Sustaniability” into ALL Curriculum . Michael Moore is speaking there October 4 and Van Jones will be speaking there Ocotber 19. No more money from this Vanderbilt Parent. May cannot come soon enough. Vanderbilt was once a fairly conservative University—in just six years this is what we now have–socialist and marxist throughout

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:29am

    It’s only a matter of time before New York gays sue churches that refuse to marry them. Churches will have a choice between closing and advocating sin. “Satan laughing spreads his wings.”

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:18am

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    Vandy really? No wonder Vandy football is the door mat of the SEC…….

    GEAUX TIGERS LSU LSU LSU LSU To the rest of ya’ll play some ranked teams…..

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:37am

      Didn’t you guys want to run Les Miles out of town on a rail not so long ago?

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 9:34am

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      Yes, and some of us still do lol………………..

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:16am

      I don’t understand why. The guy does nothing but keep you in contention EVERY YEAR! You need to get over Saban.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:15am

    “Diversity” is satan’s term for “destroying your country”. In Texas, we also call “diversity” bull****, which is a most derogatory term to use about something as lovely as bs.

    “diversity” is a spineless person’s answer for having no courage (if you are from Texas, you know that “courage” equals another word that sort of goes with the bulls). Apparently all and I do mean ALL things democreeps is wrapped up in the spineless jargon of diversity/ aka satanspeak!

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  • Lesterp
    Posted on September 26, 2011 at 7:59am

    It’s a club! They have every right to expell any member.

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    • AJAYW
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:05am

      You are correct- They set the rules in their club, you either go with them or leave your choice.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:15am

      Indeed, and in this age of adminsitration PC garbage, if this happened to be a muslim faith club; then there would have been no problems, and probably a massive increase in school support for them as well. I see a time where in the near future to be a Christian who truly believes and follows the bible and God and Jesus in faith will be dangerous and call for true courage to make the stand for what is right and true.

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 8:39am

      I agree. He knew what club he was joining, the question why did he join this club? Why would anyone join an organization that would not approve of his life style?

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    • Moonbat
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 11:47am

      It’s a club funded by student fees. This guy still has to pay for the organization that ecludes him. That’s the point.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Yo Snowleopard:
      That may only be true because is has not been done prior.
      The enemy has gotten himself dig in…. it will be a tougher fight to remove him, and it will not be acomplished without fervent prayer.

      Yo Moonbat:
      What money of his goes to this frat ?
      If so a wise judge would judge a refund of this particular amount and send him on his way looking for a gay friendly frat…..case closed…lunch time!

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