Islamic ‘Obedient Wives Club’ Opens London Branch: Act Better Than ‘First-Class Prostitutes’ in Bed
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Billed as an international Islamic organization dedicated to teaching wives the joy of “submitting” to their husbands — and in fact act “better than a first-class prostitute” in the bedroom — “The Obedient Wives Club” has opened a new operating branch in London.
Obedient Wives was founded by Global Ikhwan group which claims polygamy will lead to a harmonious society.
The club has allegedly even published an explicit 115-page sex manual with the strange title: “Islamic Sex, Fighting Against Jews To Return Islamic Sex To The World.” Yes, even in the bedroom, the Islamic sex-manual mentions a fight against the Jewish people.
The group, which has branches in Malaysia, Singapore, Australia and Jordan is now said to be running its U.K. operation out of a Greenwich neighborhood restaurant/ The Submissive Wives Club, London, is slated to host a debate on polygamy Wednesday evening.
London’s Evening Standard adds:
Ikhwan vice-president Rohaya Mohamad has claimed women could “curb social ills” by serving their husbands “better than a first-class prostitute”.
Members of the group, which is run from a Greenwich restaurant, will appear at a debate about polygamy in London tonight. They say they want to show Muslims in Britain that the practice can work. But Sara Khan, director of Muslim women’s charity Inspire, said: “Polygamy is illegal under British law and such a club would reduce a woman to a mere prop in a man’s life. Not only does it demean women, it is demeaning to men too and the institution of marriage.”
[...] Founder Mohd Ali said there were “misconceptions” about polygamy: “We want to share our experience to show it can work. One of the problems in Malaysia [was] there are men who might keep a mistress or go with someone else because they don’t have a satisfactory married life.”
With the Islamization of Europe forever a concern among Western societies, an Obedient Wives Club branch operating in London is bound to cause its share of controversy.
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Comments (203)
votemallout
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:19pmThat sounds like something that the social conservatives would set up here.
Report Post »victorincalifornia
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:19pmsurhan, what does that mean, act like a prostitute ? really dont get it
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:53pm@ VICTORINCALIFORNIA- It means act like Christian women in bed. If you don’t know what that means, go to an adult website, you’ll find out.
Report Post »littleQueenie
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:00pm@Surhan, I hear the Muslims are killing all the Christians in Nigeria.
Report Post »If you hurry and get over there maybe some are left for you.
Mad Mo said it was OK to rape the women too -so you can relieve some of your frustrations before you hack them apart.
Happy Thanksgiving.
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:16pm@ LITTLEQUEENIE- Jesus agrees with it too: Numbers 31:17-18: So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. 18 Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Numbers 31:35:..and 32,000 virgin girls.
Numbers 31:40:..and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share.
Report Post »Quasimofo
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:08pm“Jesus agrees with it too: Numbers 31:17-18: ”
@ Sirhan-sirhan,
You quoted from the OLD testament. Written hundreds, maybe thousands of years before Jesus Christ, the NEW testament, was even born. If you’re gonna troll know at least know your subject.
However I’m sure you can take solace watching the Bacha bazi and then having sex with the little boys afterwards. Your precious Mohamed, (you know, the child rapist and pederast) says its ok.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:12pm@ QUASIMOFO- The New Testament was written 60 years after Jesus was in heaven, not while he walked the earth. You’re the one that needs to learn your subject.
Report Post »Lamarr01
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:03pmIslamic sex is meant to demean, humiliate and inflict pain on the woman.
The woman is expected to submit herself to rape and any other perverted or bestial act to give the Muslim man pleasure and make him feel more powerful.The Muslim woman is expected to make herself as unattractive as possible and relinquish any freedom to further crush her self-image.
The Islamic bride‘s price is the amount of money the groom pays the bride’s family to buy her. In effect, the bride’s family pimps her out and she has nothing to say about it. It’s no wonder Afghani wives burn their faces in a stove in the hope their Muslim husbands will divorce them.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:08pmIf this wasn’t so serious it would be laughable.
Report Post »patriotsofworkingamerica
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 8:51pm@Surhansurhan you seem to have a religious comment for everyone. I’m a judeo Christian and I can tell you my God does not permit me to marry more than 1 woman. I am not permitted to kill, lie, steal, or condem my God. We are the only civilization in the history of the world to claim Judeo Christian values. I’m not a Christian, I’m a Judeo Christian. Your religion is a millenium behind it’s original scriptures. That is why you fight in the name of your God. Some Muslims have evolved beyond the primitive writings of the Qur’an. That said it’s obvious what you are trying to do on this blog. The old school muslim is a killer and attempted to deceive the followers of Jesus.The Spanish Conquistadors found this out. They were Christians not Judeo Christians. Thousands of years and you idiots still don’t get it.
Report Post »I’ll tell you this though… You arn’t going to bring that trash in our house. Europe did not get it. We get it and if you persist you’re going to get it. The reason your vile crap won’t work on our Republic is we have the 2nd amendment you deceitful turd. I believe you call it Taqiya?
Callie369
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 1:44amSince they have had their (enjoyment) surgically removed, why should they submit to men who are nothing but sexual perverts? The only good muslim is ……………..
Report Post »FoxholeAtheist
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 9:31am@ QUASIMOFO
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” Matthew 5:17-18
Report Post »heartitorleaveit
Posted on November 27, 2011 at 5:02pmsurhan is a shill for his cult of devil worshipers, dont let his lies decieve you. quran 3:28
Report Post »heartitorleaveit
Posted on November 29, 2011 at 2:44amWomen are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please. (Qur’an 2:223, Dawood)
Report Post »victorincalifornia
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:16pmWhat do they think a prostitute does anyway ? Take her clothes off, doogy style, oral ? Haven‘t had a prostitute but is there something they do I don’t know about ?
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:29pmUsually you get to select a real hot babe and she will do things your wife wouldn’t even think of or do for that matter. I‘ve been told this by a good friend who has been telling me it’s a better way to go. Cheaper than getting married and divorced overall. I am hard pressed to take the plunge because of disease. I’ve seen the babes hes purchased for the evening and they are stunning super model types, expensive too..
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:34pmI have my doughts about you being a Paulist……… Where are the links?
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:38pmDo you think I would be stupid enough to post links to that here?
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:45pmEND you’re not paying them for sex, you’re paying them to go away and not take half your sht
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:09pmYou nailed it Victor.
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:15pmA Ron Paul supporter say… Prostitution and drugs? Now THAT’s a “Party” we can vote for… and WE HAVE! Lol.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:12pmObviously y‘all can’t handle the truth for what it is.. Prostitution is the worlds oldest profession for a reason. To each his or her own.. TEA
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:48pm>ENDGAMER. Judging by your few statements here… God help us. That’s all I can muster up at this point in regards to you. God freakin’ help us.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 10:10pm@ endgamer
Report Post »See what you have started by not posting the links, Yepimangryconservitive is all flustered and asking help from God. Drink the darn “Palinka” all ready.
garyM
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:00pmI just heard a caller giving Beck the devil about tearing down his candidate which is Newt, Beck defended himself and told the guy he exposed everyone alike. I have the same beef except my candidate is Romney, I am so sick and tired of Beck trashing Romney with story after story on GBTV and THE BLAZE. It‘s all about Romney’s past and his negatives. Have you read the one about Romney’s people buying all the Mass state computers after he left office so that no one could ascertain his emails as Governor, is that true?.. The story about when Romney said he had lowered taxes 17 times while he was Mass Gov. with a state congress that was almost 100% tax and spend democrats, what a influence in reaching across party lines, Glen has dug up all those lawsuits on Romney that wealthy people always have launched against them when they are completely innocent. Yea Glenn and the Blaze is destroying Romney as well as Newt. I’m so glad that Romney will be able to defeat Obama worse than he did McCain in 2008, wait is that right? Well so much rambling I hope everyone gets the jest! I am so glad the truth lives there and they don’t play favoritism in exposing evil even on people of their like faith!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:10pmThe caller also said he was going to vote for whoever won the primary because we couldn’t stand 4 more years of Obama but he was afraid that the Ron Paul people would do that. I have to agree with him. The reason they want vote for anyone but Ron Paul is that if Ron Paul loses and we get Obama they still have an ACLU communist either way!
Report Post »usa91773
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:17pmBeck says he’s not endorsing a candidate , ha right. He just bashes every one other than the one he likes. Backmann swirling the toilet bowl at 1% popularity . How unrealistic has Glenn gotten?
Newt is a closet liberal, isn’t that obvious by now? We all change our thought with time as the world changes. I’m listening to what the candidates ideas are today and what their plan is, Romney is going exactly where I feel we should go on energy, foreign trade, government pay, economy , immmigration , health care. He is the total package and the one I support . Review the debates and you will agree.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:21pmPlease stay on topic here, this is about sending your wife to sex camp. We should be asking about student loans, pell grants, schlorships ect.
Report Post »Wishkah
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:48pmwhat the hell does this comment have to do with this story?? And why do you feel it necessary to hijack every thread? You really are a waste of time and do your candidate no good if your typical of his supporters
Report Post »ramburner
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:24pmJust remember; Obama said anything to get elected as well, and all the people bought it. Romney, Newt and Perry are ALL democrats or (RINO’s). They will take our country completely into Socialism from where Obama leaves off. We have no choice but to vote for whoever wins the nomination, but God help us if one of these three wins. Our only hope as a nation is to completely purge Congress and implement Term Limits so that this cycle should not happen again. Our problem is based on Congressional “representatives” who have believed the lie that they can do as they please after elected because they will be re-elected next time anyway. We MUST break that cycle. Elect Cain/Bachmann in 2012.
Report Post »happygranny
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 11:27pmI wouldn’t vote for Romney if he was the only one running. He is a RHINO at best.
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 12:15amCommonsense, I agree, maybe the Government could include it in high school, it could become a major for colleges. Talk about a side track!!! I don’t remember Beck or Romney being mentioned in the article.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:58amNotice all of these fake Islam supporters here? LOL…they are so amateurish I can’t stand it. They are pathetically trying to disrupt and cause dissection. Most are doing the correct thing by ignoring them. Never engage these things one on one as it encourages it to talk and therefore say really asinine things.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:27pm@ ARES338- You’re right, never have dialog with people you disagree with. Just form your opinion from the misinformation you get from hateful people and hateful websites.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:56amNo woman should have to act like a slut to get a man’s attention. What does this say about the caliber of Islamic men and their respect for women or their version of morality?
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:10pmThe Qur’an:
Qur’an (4:34) – “Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.”
Qur’an (38:44) – “And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath…” Allah telling Job to beat his wife.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:18pm@ UNCURABLE WOUND- Deuteronomy 25:11-12: “If two men get into a fight and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, 12 you must cut off her hand. Show her no pity.
Genesis 3:16 Then he said to the woman…and you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you.
1 Corinthians 11:3 The head of the woman is the man.
Exodus 21:7: “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed as the men are.
Report Post »Whitehouse Mouse
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:26pmBut the big difference is almost all religions have updated to a changing world whereas Muslims are still stoning rape victims in Allah’s name.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:30pm@ MOMSENSE- If what you say is true, why is pornography a billion dollar industry in America?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:34pm@ WHITEHOUSE MOUSE- You’re right, all the man made religions have changed over the years. The religion of God does not change.
Report Post »Whitehouse Mouse
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:45pmSo do you spout that crap before or after you stone to death for adultery the little girl your Muslim brother just raped?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:50pm@ WHITEHOUSE MOUSE- Deuteronomy 12:32: “So be careful to obey all the commands I give you. You must not add anything to them or subtract anything from them.
Report Post »JuliaDiaz
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:07pm@SurhanSurhan
By God’s religion, do you mean Judaism, because the Jews have been pretty consistent throughout history.
If you mean Islam, I don‘t know what you’re talking about. On the prophet Mohammad’s deathbed, he tried to give further instructions to the followers of Islam but was stopped by people (his own family and friends) trying to further their own interests.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:17pm@ JULIADIAZ- You’re kidding me right! lol You just made that up!
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:22pm@SURHANSURHAN As to Deut. 25:11-12, YVWH was merely making clear the sacredness of a person’s manhood. The penalty was harsh, but it was a harsh time.
As to Gen. 3:16, this passage was part of the punishment to Eve and women after her for Eve‘s disobedience to God’s commands. Previously, woman was equal to man, hence, the reason God formed Eve out of Adam’s rib -not his foot to be beneath him, or his head to be above him. Adam also had a great punishment.
As to 1 Corinthians 11:3, the corollary passage in Eph. 5, more fully explains the family order. Wives are supposed to respect and if need be submit to their husband’s leadership, but husbands are required to love their wives as Christ loved the Church; love to the point of dying for the loved one. Husbands are to follow Christ’s example of servant leadership; teaching humility by showing humility. Christ could not have better taught humility than by bowing to wash his disciples feet.
As to Exodus 21:7, ye took this grossly out of context. Hebrew menservants were to be released after six years of service. Maidservants were not to be released in six years at once because maidservants were actually betrothed to their masters. Exodus 21:8 ‘If she please not her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.’ YVWH continues with more stipulations to ensure that the maid was respectful
Report Post »LadyLibertykicksASS
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:23pmMuslim men also have sex with ANIMALS !!!!!
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:31pm-respectfully treated. was the conclusion of my last post.
Report Post »Swalker
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:50amFrom the stories posted in the Blaze these last few days I get the feeling this online news source has lost its focus and values. Stories like this serve little value and should be relegated to a back page blurb. I think I have lost the friend I use to count on.
Beck you may have over extended your self and need to take a look at what is called news now.
http://justrightofleft.blogspot.com/#!/
Where is anything of real substance?
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:45amIslam – is a religion that allows and promotes – killing, lying, and slavery.
Report Post »This is not BS – This is from the mouths of their own scholars.
“The Islamic Antichrist” A real eye opener that every Jew and Christians should read
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:47pm@ JAKARTAMAN- Paul in the bible taught this practice too.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:32amHere are some excellent website about the truth about how evil Islam is .One of the links has stories about how many Muslims are converting to Christianity, especially younger people. In the middle east, apostate Muslims who convert to Christianity are being persecuted and threaten with death, unless they denounce Christianity and accept Islam as their faith. http://www.islam-watch.com and http://www.Jihadwatch.com
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:45amWon’t this contribute to a virgin shortage? Their logic is ill.
Report Post »simplygilly
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:43amPut me on the notification list so I can be among the first to try out one of them Jew-bashing Muslim prostitutes when they come to America. Oh yeah, mmm-mmm-mmm.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:39amThis is beyond disgusting. I pray for these people who have been so brainwashed, may they open their eyes and see this for the insanity it is.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:43amI have to agree with that, and expect Obama to support the Islamic movement here as well.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:09pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- Abraham called his wife Sarah, his sister. You called her his half sister. I‘m going to go with Abraham’s description.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:37pm@SURHANSURHAN Lol, If I must quote directly for ye, then I shall. Genesis 20:12 ‘And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.‘ Just to make sure we’re on the same page, by Websters definition,
Report Post »half-sister — n
the daughter of either of one’s parents by another partner.
Now I will concede that ye may have only read Genesis 12:12-20, which may have led ye to doubt my knowledge of the Scripture. For that I forgive ye.
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:01pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- I know the passage well. It doesn’t change the fact that Abraham called her his sister and the King called her his sister too. It fits your agenda to call her his half sister, but in my community she would be his sister.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:10pm@SURHANSURHAN Do you jest? I don’t know what is so hard to understand about this passage. By definition she is his half-sister, if you noticed I never denied that Abraham called Sarah his sister. What difference does it make whether she is/was called his sister; she was his half-sister. That’s all I was saying.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:38amsurhan akmed.If your eye causes you to sin,then pluck it out.
Report Post »Dont punish women for your weakness..
Buck up little guy,go kill some jews,that always cheers you up!
Next time you have a thought,LET IT GO!!!
You can always kiss my RED WHITE AND BLUE ***!
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:49am@ UNCURABLE WOUND- God forbid we, should take away your right to gawk at another mans wife or daughter. I know, you will fight to the death to keep this right.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:59amIts called self control dirty little man.I dont punish others for my weakness’s.If I cant look at a woman without lust,than I dont look at her.We call it FREEDOM,thats why it escapes you…
Report Post »You are taught women are on the same level as cattle.Do I need to quote the koran???
I was taught to treat my wife as I would myself,not as a dog…
We dont need to practice hate in our bedroom,we just make love!
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:31pm@ UNCURABLE WOUND- Self control my arse; you want to lust after women you are not married to and you don’t want anyone to take away your right to do so. Don’t try to take the moral high ground with me. America love‘s it’s women in mini skirts, bikinis, halter tops, and anything else revealing. And nobody better get in the way of that.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:45amWhat a load of crock. I had a friend who came from Kuwait. he said many of the Muslim women dressed in black from head to toe were nothing but sluts!!! Furthermore, it is not what you wear on the outside, but what you have in your heart, and I know, from having taught many a Muslim male in college, that a lot of them have very impure hearts. Hey well, they have a good role model in allah and mohamed.
Report Post »Paulmtmorris
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:28pmYou’d rather have the right to marry a girl like Muhammad did? It’s funny how the woman must cover up but not the man. It‘s the evil woman’s fault.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:52pm@ PAULMTMORRIS- 1 Timothy 2:9-10: And I want women to be modest in their appearance.[a] They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes. 10 For women who claim to be devoted to God should make themselves attractive by the good things they do.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:58pm@SURHANSURHAN, ye are correct that the true model of biblical femininity is to be modest. However, there is a tremendous difference between a Christian woman dressing attractively, rather than dressing to attract and a Muslim woman being forced to wear a canvas prison that utterly destroys any semblance of personhood. The treatment of women in Christianity is worlds apart from Islam’s subjugation of the female sex.
‘O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies.’ Surah 33:59, The Noble Quran
And speaking of seeing a woman’s face:
‘It is no sin before their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brother’s sons, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or their (female) slaves.’ Surah 33:55, The Noble Quran
Before Christ and Christianity, women were treated like chattel, but Christ gave them a dignity and respect hitherto un-imagined by the fairer sex. Mohammed was a brute and complete tyrant towards women or those weaker than him. For example, in matters of inheritance, women are to receive half of what men receive (Surah 4:11). Men are the “managers” of women (Surah 4:35) and can “come unto [their] tillage as they wish” (sexually) (Surah 2:223); can divorce their wives by stating “I divorce you” three times (2:229-230); and may take more than one wife (4:29) The list goes on and on, I can continue to expose Mohammed and Islam for what it is if you would so
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:20pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- Islam sees a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings. A marriage dowry (which is why she gets less from an inheritance than a man) is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use, and she keeps her own family name rather than taking her husband’s. Both men and women are expected to dress in a way which is modest and dignified; the traditions of female dress found in some Muslim countries are often the expression of local customs. The Messenger of God said:
“The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife.”
Report Post »Paulmtmorris
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:06pmBill chips. I don’t see Muslim men wearing a vail or any facial coverings.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:56pm@SURHANSURHAN Where does the Apostle Paul ever allow and promote killing and lying? Lol, don’t be descending into fanciful fiction just to deceive others. But again, lying or deceiving us infidels is more than acceptable in the sight of the Most Gracious Allah. In fact, the Prophet declares Allah to be the most deceitful one himself; Sura 8:30b ‘And they deceived, and Allah deceived. And Allah is the best deceiver.’
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:40amSurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:43pm
@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- I have no idea what you’re trying to say.
Don‘t know why he doesn’t understand you BlackJohn, I understand you completely. Loud and clear!!
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:58pm@SURHANSURHAN Most assuredly, Islam views each woman as an individual in her own right. It just so happens her own rights are nil. Don’t believe me?
Let’s begin with Sura 4:129a, which states that it is impossible for Muslims to treat their wives fairly. ‘And you never can deal fairly between the women even if you try carefully.’
Moving on to Sura 2:282b ‘so if there were not two men, so one man and two women of those among whom you are pleased (to call) for witnesses so that if one of them (the women) should make an error, the other may cause her to remember.’
But wait there’s more, in Islam women are dirtier than dirt. Witness Sura 4:43 ‘And if one of you were sick or travelling or one of you has relieved himself or you have touched the women, so you did not find water, then rub your face and your hands with good dirt.’ Sura 5:6 also repeats this belief.
The good thing is adultery is forbidden, at least, if the married women concerned aren‘t your slaves’ wives. Sura 4:24 ‘And married women (are also forbidden), except all that your right hand possesses (i.e. slaves). . . .And it is lawful to you, besides this, to seek out women with your money, chaste without fornication. So whatever you enjoy by it from them, so give them their wages; it is an ordinance.’ Clearly, this is referencing some form of prostitution, and somehow this ‘pay-per-event sex‘ isn’t fornication.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 6:07amSee how much Islam values its women!!!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/video-surfaces-of-taliban-stoning-woman-in-northwest-pakistan.html
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 9:12pmTo be honest this “religion” Islam is really UGLY!. These people is keeping a life of a Neanderthal!
Report Post »Donworrybouthat
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 2:00pm@BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman, I like you! and I agree with you. I cannot understand why any Muslim woman would defend her own subjugation. These people claim to have laid the path of modern society and science, but they are so bent on defending thier excuse to make their inferiority appear superior by subjugatiing women and murdering innocent people they can’t get past their pseudo medieval lifestyle. In the USA, the religions who have insisted on women and children being treated similarly…have been, Polygamists. And it isn‘t Christians attempting to kill everyone who doesn’t believe in Christianity, but Muslims feel it’s their duty? It has been said that the eyes are the windows to the soul, but Burkas block that and complete the image of women being objects owned by men and not respected human beings, just property, hiding the soul.
Report Post »I really like you BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman!! You’re smart and you take me to a different world when I read what you write!!! Good job!
Paulmtmorris
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:58pmNo kidding, unfortunately you equate all Americans as being Christian. If you think believers think woman should dress provocative, you’rew kidding yourself. You can admire a woman’s form without sinning, and don’t have to turn them into tent poles. That is oppressive and show how Islam treats woman unequal. Your not fooling anyone with you lies and certainly not you name.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 6:06pm@ PAULMTMORRIS- You don’t want anyone to interfere with your right to lust after women you are not married to.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on November 25, 2011 at 5:47amHey, you seem to be obsessed with lusting after women. Can’t hide your impure thoughts from God. Kiddo.
Report Post »patriotsofworkingamerica
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 9:06pmTaqiyya… Does the word look familiar to you? Your crap lies won’t work here. Time for you to roll up the rug and head for the sand. You’re not interested in conversing on this blog. Take a good look America and see what a moderate muslim looks and sounds like. We are not a nation of Christians, we are Judeo Christians. Look that up you great deceiver. Europe took it on the chin because the politically correct never saw your vile crap coming up through their outdated sewers. The bankrupt, socialist government only saw the advancing muslim as a new voter and an endless supply of money. Kind of like what is happening here. The difference is we still have our Constitution in tact contrary to what our soon departing administration would have you believe. We are the only country to truly know freedom and we have to fight for it every waking moment against idiots like you.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:37amChristianity and Judaism both tossed out polygamy due only to political pressure of the heathens in Rome a few centuries ago. There is certainly no reason to hate God’s own marriage relationship in this modern age. Not to mention that Christianity threw out the sabbath and exchanged it for Sunday, which was supposed to the be first work day of the week. How many other abominations are there? MANY.
Folks, if you can’t keep that particular commandment, which day of the week you rest and worship on, (it requires no effort at all), then how are you going to honor any of the other commandments?
But really, all of you claiming to be Christians – do you still denounce polygamy? Really? Why?
Report Post »chips1
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:43amYou don’t like me, do you? Boo Hoo!
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:31amI wonder if they will squeal like a pig if hubby wants them to?
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:41amNo the whole pig thing would offend them-try a little boy or girls scream.Than old akmed will pop like soda pop!!!
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:42am@ SECESSIONISTA- Why do you care?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:11pm@ UNCURABLE WOUND- Christianity allows a man to have sex with his on daughter (Lot) and a man to marry and have sex with his sister (Abraham with his sister Sarah).
Report Post »Whitehouse Mouse
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:19pmBoy that Sure-Ham Sure-Ham just keeps shooting one blank after another. I bet his idea of polygamy is a herd of goats.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:43pm@ WHITEHOUSE MOUSE- Polygamy is Christian practice. Muslims have nothing to do with that.
Report Post »Whitehouse Mouse
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:55pmYah that’s right buddy, you just keep on partying like it’s 632 AD. Don’t let the facts hit you on your way out the door.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 1:36pm@ WHITEHOUSE MOUSE- Where are your facts?
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:29pm@SURHANSURHAN, lol, laddie, the next time ye go quoting the Bible you should actually read it. Aye, Lot’s daughters did get him drunk and make him get them pregnant. However, this be a narrative to show the depths of depravity Lot had plunged his family into by setting up his hearth in the midst of Sodom. The Bible doesnae condemn this action in the same passage because it takes for granted the rationality and morality of the reader. If ye are hearing of a rape and ye tell the woeful tale to a friend, I warrant me ye donnae have to say, ‘This was a wicked and despicable action!‘ ye take for granted yer friend’s knowledge that such a thing is evil. Och, such people as ye are like to ding me daft. As for Abraham wedding his half-sister, Adam and Eve’s sons and daughters had to marry each other otherwise we wouldnae be here; the human bloodline has grown increasingly impure and weak as the millennia go by. Scarce seven centuries ago, the nobility commonly married first cousins with extremely rare adverse affects to their bairns. Of course, first-cousins donnae do that among civilized people today because it almost always results in impaired cognitive functions for their offspring. But all that is merely academic, the Bible clearly condemns any such relations. Leviticus 18:6 makes plain the Bible’s position, ‘None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.‘ and we donnae have to worry about ’the Doctrine of Ab
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 2:43pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- I have no idea what you’re trying to say.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:08pm@SURHANSURHAN Does yer blatant ignoring of the Qur‘an’s teachings never end? Or are ye simply practicing Taqiyya? Ye asked for proof, well, here it is lad. Christianity discourages polygamy and requires that church leaders be married to one woman. Islam allows polygamy. A man may marry up to four wives at one time. “Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four… ” Surah 4:3. Also, “Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them” (Surah 4:34). The Arabic word “beat” or “scourge” doesnae mean tap lightly; it is the same word used to beat a violent criminal or a camel. Muhammad himself once deliberately struck ‘Aisha’ on the chest which caused me pain”, according to Sahih Muslim vol.2:2127 Donnae come around pretending that Islam is a holy religion. Mohammed himself was a creature of insatiable lust; the vile person -I will not say man, even wedded a six-year old girl and consummated the marriage when she was nine!! In the first year of Muhammad’s residence at Yathrib (now Medina) the “Prophet” celebrated his marriage to Ayisha. According to Al-Bukhari, Abu Dawud and Tabari, Aisha was 9 when Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage with her. Muhammad was 52.
Report Post »Aisha herself testified to these facts:
“The messenger of God betrothed me when I was six years old and then married me when I was nine.’ -Sahih Muslim(by Imam a
BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 3:31pmI keep running out of room on my posts.
Report Post »‘The Doctrine of Abrogation’ is the end of the first one.
(by Imam al-Mawawy), vol. 3, p. 577 is the end of my second post.
I apologize for writing in my native dialect, when my blood is up, I can only think in me brogue. If you would like I can translate my first post to yer dialect. But the main idea was that never did Christianity even tolerate father/daughter sex. The Bible tells of one horrible incident involving it, but that is far from approving or even tolerating it. Also, YVWH did not arrange Abram’s marriage; the marriage was already in place before YVWH began to lead Abram.
The Bible verse requiring church leaders to be married to one woman is 1 Tim. 3:2a ‘A bishop (church leader) must be blameless, the husband of one wife . . .’ Obviously, from a careful reading of the whole Bible, it is unmistakable that marriage between one man and woman is God’s plan for marriage. If ye would like I could quote the applicable Scriptures, but I think ye can tell I know my Bible well enough to make such statements. Please, lad, hit me with yer arguments, I would love nothing better than to further explain the tremendous gulf between Christianity and Islam.
SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 4:36pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- I will give you a pass because it seems to me that English is not your first language. Polygamy; means that a Husband or a Wife in a marriage are allowed to marry another spouse. Islam does not allow that. As you stated the Qur’an allows a man to marry up to 4 wives. The Muslim wife can not take on another husband. This practice is called polygyny.
Polygamy is practiced by Christian sects. Polygyny is a Muslim practice.
Report Post »BlackJohntheFlyingScotsman
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:21pm@SURHANSURHAN Haha, aye, Scots be me first language, and proud I am of the fact. Few people ken (know) that Scots is technically its own language, not just a dialect.
Lol, ye did just pull out an obscure technicality to prove yer point didn’t ye? First, ye are right in that only polygyny is legal in Islam. That just goes to prove that in Islam women have no equality with men.
And again ye are going and confusing ‘Christians’ with Christianity. All those who call themselves Christians are not necessarily following true Christianity. Are there ‘Christians’ or Jews who in the past have practiced polygamy? Yes, but again it is not encouraged, rather discouraged, in the Bible; Polygamy is simply not forbidden.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:36pm@ BLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN- The Christians that practice polygamy, call themselves Christians, who am I to say they are not. They say they have the Holy Spirit, who am I to say they don’t. Only God can say someone is not a Christian.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 5:47pmBLACKJOHNTHEFLYINGSCOTSMAN,
Report Post »THANK YOU!
You have wisdom.
A little haggis with your Butterball?!
Happy Thanksgiving!
truemedia
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:30amMuslims believe but another falsehood. Islamic tradition say muhammad had stamina to have sex with all13 wives (which allah only allow for 4?) But the hadith and even Aeisha his own wife says he was delusional! What does that tell you about Islam and Muhammad!
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:04pmUh….It makes me thankful I wasn’t born and raised in that religion, and thankful I was born and raised in my religion, which I believe to be true.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:24pm…more the second thankful than the first.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 7:47pmAlways sounded to me like someone was on something. All this brutality and viciousness couldn’t have come from a sane mind.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:30amMy favorite sex is rodeo sex. That’s when you mount her from behind and whisper into her ear “your sister likes it just like this too”, and then you try to hang on for 8 seconds.
Report Post »Valerie Summer
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:36amHaHaHaHa!!!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:26pmOne, two… Oh crap!!!
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:29am@ UNCURABLE WOUND- No, put them in a bikini, so that men can lust after them.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:50amI already told you So dam Insane,
Report Post »I will not wrap my wife and daughter in a towel,and I will not bow.
If you dont like it come get SUM…
Secessionista
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:28amI wonder if they use the missionary position? Or is that a crime punishable by stoning?
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:39am@ SECESSIONISTA- Why do you care what people do in their bedroom?
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:46amI think its a hole in a Berka…
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:36pmThe good thing about them wearing a burka is, you only need one bag.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:24amThey have some disgusting sex acts, with their wives of course, that no one should know about…sickos
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:32am@ SAMIAMTWO- Don’t be too hard on Christians.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:23amHas Hillery signed up yet?
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:18am.
Report Post »Wife just saw the headline and hit me. Thanks Blaze………..
Huguenot Descendant
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:34amI am sorry I know that you are going through pain right now but I couldn’t help myself from laughing at your comment.
Report Post »truemedia
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:18amWho wants a Prostitute acting wife? I want to give and receive the love from the one woman I fall in love with and wanted to sahre my wife with? This is the attitude of Islam…to have what is debasing and demeaning as the STANDARD! …SAD!!!!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:15amIslam distorts marriage and the wife’s role in marriage and in the family and so does most Christian people distort it as well. God’s Word lays it all but it is practiced by very few married couples! The Christian throw out many plainly written Biblical instructions because they don‘t fit their desires in today’s culture! Men do the same thing as well in their role!
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:13amYeah, those darn jews have really screwed up things in my bedroom. What a joke. Anything to further their agenda.
Report Post »Theodwulf
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:12am” Yes, even in the bedroom, the Islamic sex-manual mentions a fight against the Jewish people.”
If they weren’t a bunch of psychopaths, I would find them amusing.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on November 24, 2011 at 11:30amAgreed
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