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Israeli-Americans’ U.S. Passport Case Against Obama Admin Goes to Supreme Court

U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Jerusalem Israel Passport Case Against Obama AdministrationFollowing President Barack Obama’s call for Israel to return to its 1967 borders, there has been much talk about his treatment of America’s greatest ally in the Middle East. Some accuse him of being anti-Israel, while claiming that his stances have irreparably damaged his support among American Jews.

Now, Obama faces additional scrutiny surrounding a battle over Israeli-American passports and the administration’s stance on Jerusalem. To add insult to injury, the fight is headed for the U.S. Supreme Court, where the president could face public defeat on the issue this fall.

The controversy can be summarized as follows: If an American citizen was born in Jerusalem, the United States government will not include “Israel” as the locality of birth on an individual’s passport. Considering the ongoing debate surrounding Jerusalem, this decision has purportedly been made to avoid inciting international anger among those who would dispute Israel’s ownership of the city. Some have called this move discriminatory, while others — mainly those in the executive branch — have defended it.

But, regardless of once’s stance on the issue, the time has come to conclusively settle the debate. The family of Menachem Zivotofsky, an American citizen who was born in Jerusalem in 2002, is taking legal action in an effort to change the U.S. State Department’s policy.

At the heart of this debate is a 2002 instruction to the State Department (within the Foreign Relations Authorization Act) by Congress. By law, the Department is required to record Israel as the place of birth on passports of American children who were born in Jerusalem, should parents request it. The New York Times sheds more light on the issue:

This fall, not long after Menachem turns 9, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in his case, which seeks to force the executive branch to follow the 2002 law. The case weaves together generations of conflict in the Middle East, the dueling roles of Congress and the president in the conduct of foreign affairs and the combustible topic of presidential signing statements.

Nathan Lewin, a lawyer for Menachem and his parents, said the point pressed in the lawsuit was a modest one shared by many people. “This client is representative of a large group of American citizens born in Jerusalem who are proud of the fact that they were born in Israel,” he said, “and they want their passports to reflect that fact.”

The Obama administration failed to convince the High Court not to hear the case. Additionally, the justices will force all sides to face the question of whether the contentious law “impermissibly infringes the president’s power to recognize foreign sovereigns.”

In the past, the courts have said that the president’s authority to “receive ambassadors and other public ministers” also means that he has the power to recognize foreign governments. Robert J. Reinstein, a law professor at Temple University, disagrees with this sentiment and claims that the president does not have the authority to recognize foreign states and governments.

President Obama isn’t alone in his efforts to avoid complying with the law. While it was signed by President George W. Bush back in 2002, Bush expressed his disagreement with its tenets and claimed that he would not necessarily comply with it. Perhaps Thompson Reuters best summarizes the presidents’ stance on the matter:

Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama say this unconstitutionally limits their powers, since U.S. policy for six decades has been to leave Jerusalem’s status to Israel and the Palestinians.

Groups like One Nation stand strongly against both presidents’ stances on the issue, but they particularly target Obama in their reaction:

This case is especially important at a time when the US President has effectively endorsed the division of Jerusalem in calling for a return to the 1967 lines while an overwhelming majority of Congress supports defensible borders and a united Jerusalem.

The debate over which branch of government has the authority to decide an issue like this will likely be settled this fall. It will be intriguing to see how both sides rationalize their viewpoints on the matter.

Comments (125)

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  • jlong522
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Maybe the courts can straighten out this administration out a little bit on Isreal.. I will stand to my death with Isreal!!!!

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    • fertlmind
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:34pm

      SINISTER describes Obammas attempt to be so specific about someone elses place of birth when he is so vague and secretive about his own.
      The Muslims love Obamma for this.
      Thats all I need to know.
      Obamma is a demon.

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    • MBA
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 2:08pm

      I’m standing with Israel. I do not stand with the antiAmerican illegal in chief who is destroying our country.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 2:37pm

      Wow! Reality on the ground again is trumping zionist propaganda! Even the americans are being led to recognize the legal and actual reality that israeli terrirtory aquired through war is indeed illigal.Jerusalem of course should be the capital of the palestinian state as Tel Aviv is of israel.You genociidists have work to do all over the place I see. Muslim/arab liberation is leaking out all over the place and all you do is rant!

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    • Louie Louie the Progressive
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 4:15pm

      It`s about time the US Embassy is relocated from TA to Jerusalem

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    • 5775lindy
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 4:56pm

      ROSE ELLEN– If territory acquired thru war was illegal, there would have to be a world-wide shifting of borders. Borders in this part of the world have been shifting for THOUSANDS of years. The jewish people were living on this land thousands of years ago, learn your history

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    • Navy5170
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 5:22pm

      Land gained through war illegal? I guess the American Indian can throw our butts out of the US and Canada. Europe would be in a legal tangle for centuries. Eastern Countries like China and Japan would be mired down in courts as well. But the Middle East? Not one country in the Middle East was gained through peaceful means. If you look back in History, war has been the one constant in border change.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:43pm

      @rose ellen
      re : land acquired thruough war.
      ***
      Does that mean the 13 colonies should be given back to the British?
      How about all the land acquired FOR the 7th century Caliphate by the muslims. It belonged to other countries before Mohammed began his Jihad, and took it over. Does that mean that the non-muslims should all be givIng back the land that Mohammed and his followers acquired through war? ( Oh, yeah, I forgot, that was the real purpose of the Crusades, to give the land back to the original owners! Funny how they didn’t take it all away from all muslims since there were none anywhere before Mohammed!!! )
      I agree with Lindy 5775, there will have to be A LOT OF NEW GLOBES AND MAPS DRAWN IF YOUR THEORY IS FOLLOWED !!!!

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:18pm

    We stand with Israel……..period.

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    • Carol Ingian
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 3:29pm

      Rose-ellen you’re delusional, darlin’. Take your meds.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 5:25pm

      I stand with Israel and i trust the P.M. of Israel,I do not trust Hussian Obama,he is nothing but a radical Islamists hiding in the closet,he will come out of that closet soon,all things will be brought into the light

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:30pm

      Take your meds? You all will be needing meds as your genocidal fantasies [driven by media propaganda] are held in check by your political elites [like Obama].They gotcha coming and going ;your media by indioctrinating you with anti-semitism [against arab/muslims this time] as you volunteer to go have your arms and legs blown off in iraq or afghanistanon on the one hand, and those political classes keepng a lid on you at home [not even one of your politicians calls for banning islam or muslims here -to say nothing of calling for implementation of you nazi desires for genocide] .And you say muslims are brainwashed!.[i guess that norweigiian suffered from the same problem [brainwashed gull with no outlet syndrome]. Oh soo sad! As those muslim/ arabs struggle for authentic self determination there and silently go about their business here!Oh and your spoils of war morally bankrupt rationalization to steal land in a postww2 world is duly noted!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:52pm

      @rose ellen
      Take your meds? You all will be needing meds as your genocidal fantasies [driven by media propaganda] are held in check by your political elites [like Obama].They gotcha coming and going ;your media by indioctrinating you with anti-semitism [against arab/muslims this time] as you volunteer to go have your arms and legs blown off in iraq or afghanistanon on the one hand, and those political classes keepng a lid on you at home [not even one of your politicians calls for banning islam or muslims here -to say nothing of calling for implementation of you nazi desires for genocide
      ***
      Notice the 3rd person pronoun coming through, be honest now, WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU REPRESENTING??
      You just told us it isn’t ours !!!
      And we thought Obama was a trojan horse, is that your purpose among us ? To turn us against our country and fellow Americans???

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    • Vigilante
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:06am

      @MIL MOM
      I do not agree with you in that assertion.
      Politicians in the government that do not follow the CONSTITUTION, that part of the government do not belong to WE THE PEOPLE. And the same thing with the media that praises those politicians

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 7:06am

      @rose-ellen

      Go read the Koran, watch what is evolving in Egypt. They can’t separate their religion from their politics, from their law, from their every day live and they do hate the Christians and the Jews.

      How many times does Israel have to divide it’s land for the ousted Jordanians? These people are from other tribes that did not allow them back to their countries…they have a right to return to their Arab countries is what it should be…these people are being used and you know it. They are used to attack and kill the Jews…they certainly do no use all the money given to them to build a civilized society in Gaza, eh??

      How many times do you have to be hit by a 2×4 before you get it?

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  • Bernard
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:16pm

    This is a blatant anti Semitic act by the Obama administration. The real need for this stamp of birth in Israel is to include within the statistics of Israel those who were born there but reside some where else. By taking it out, it gives a leg up to the Palestinians.
    If this act does not lose the Jewish vote from Obama, I do not know what will.

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:40pm

      Most of the so called Jewish votes will still vote for Obama since they are Progressive Jews not Conservative. They believe in “GAY MARRIAGE” and other tenets that Jews that believe in G_D or the Supreme Higher Power reject as against the Talmudic Laws of Moses that were related to the Nation of Abraham’s Descendants at the Mount in Sinai.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 2:51pm

      The anti-semitism of the 21stc is anti arab.Jerusalem is illigally aquired territory and israel is mandated under UN resolutions to go back to the 67 borders. That they have been abl to occupy this land for so long is because of anti-semitism[against arabs this time] ;when the US votoes and defends the indefensable.That 30+ years later the US elites are slowly gingerly starting to join the rest of the world in recognizing this fact [in spite of the brainwashed population of gulls-brainwashed by murdoch and other zionist media which dominate the "most informed people the world has ever know" narrative]is an expression of this being the century of people,and their narrative is geting out and even tthe american elites can’t ignore it!

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    • Baberaham Lincoln
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:14pm

      This policy has been in place for a long time. Note that the plaintiff in this case was born in 2002. It‘s Bush’s, Clinton’s, etc.‘s issue as much as it is Obama’s.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 9:06pm

      ROSE-ELLEN, are you going to protest the King of the Jews Jesus the Messiah when He returns and establishes the borders promised by God to Abraham? On that day Yahweh made a covenant
      with Abram, saying, “To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates. (Genesis 15:18)

      That’s a HUGE territory. Seems like when I read Revelation, He does some butt-kicking in the process.

      Will you still be an anti-Semitic racist then?

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    • On The Silent Wings Of Freedom
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:01pm

      @Rose-Ellen 2:51 PART 1 OF 2

      Rose: “The anti-semitism of the 21stc is anti arab.”

      Your thinking process might improve if you learn how to use (the English) language correctly. Anti-Semitism applies to Jews ALONE. Your statement above is akin to saying “Those who posses a hatred of Jews do a disservice to Arabs”. Now judging by your myopic, misguided, biased and obviously uninformed rants, I am reasonably certain that is not the intent of your statement above. None the less, that IS what you said.

      Rose: “Jerusalem is illigally aquired territory and israel is mandated under UN resolutions to go back to the 67 borders … when the US votoes and defends the indefensable.”

      Rose, your “pigeon English” and atrocious spelling reveals to us that you are either uneducated or not a native English speaker or (as I now believe) both. For the record, the correct spelling is “illegally acquired”, “Israel” and “indefensible”; there is no correct spelling for “votoes” because it is not even a word (um, let me hazard a guess, did you intend to say “votes or vetoes”?)

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    • On The Silent Wings Of Freedom
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 12:01pm

      @Rose-Ellen 2:51 PART 2 OF 2

      Rose, if you can’t even master the correct use of the English language, or be bothered to learn how to spell (or even figure out how to use spell check), how is it that you believe that you actually posses the intellect to understand world affairs and comment on them in a meaningful way? I know the equivalent of the word “earn” doesn’t exist in your native language (I’m assuming some Arabic language), so this concept may be difficult for you to grasp, but to post here, you must earn the right to be taken seriously by demonstrating that you AT LEAST have the intellectual ability to use language properly and to spell correctly most of the time. You have demonstrated quite the opposite. Hence, I will no longer attempt to decipher what your one-sided point may be – your demonstrable level of intellect and understanding does not rise to the level worthy of my (our) consideration. Perhaps if you were to become educated and informed, we might give you another chance to try and express your biased and myopic views.

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  • Bernard
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:04pm

    It is acts like this by our State Department and the tacit support of President Obama that the saying “it is bad to be America’s enemy but it is worse to be her ally”. Sadly this can be applied to the US/Israel alliance and the US/UK alliance as well

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    • IntegrityFirst08
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:20pm

      It must be a new concept to them to be truthful about their place of birth. All these people want is to put on his passport where he was actually born. Glen is right “The truth has no agenda”. Never will.

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    • bare faced truth teller
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:48pm

      I have long wondered just exactly who’s side the US State Department is on. My son is in Military Intelligence, and works in the Pentagon. He says that there are a number of people running around there who he does not believe are on our side. I have been wondering that myself for a long time.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:00pm

    I hope the case results in a victory for the sons family — even if it just comes down to being a moral and ethical victory as Mr Obama will probably just up and ignore the inconveinece of the matter. He does so with any laws and the Constitution when needed, which is quite a lot anymore.

    At the very least, once again he will be shown to the world and the nation the farce of a POTUS he is and the mess he is still continuing to create.

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  • lylejk
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:00pm

    I’ve always suspected Bush to be siding on the Muslim side. I still remember all those muslims he allowed to leave the country after 9/11 and some of those guys turned out to have terrorist ties. As for BO, he’s a lost cause. Israel is a country and this lad should be able to place as his origin of birth Israel. “Nough said. :)

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  • affinnity
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:58pm

    We can’t help the Jews if they keep supporting their American Liberal Progressive enemies.

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    • Drives Like Jehu
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 3:02pm

      I stand with Israel because God chose Israel; as for the Jews, they will wake up some time in the future (Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.)

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    • Moseyspeed
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:08pm

      BUT…the Jewish population of the US is only 6M. Of that, less than 50% are of voting age. That would be <3m potential votes if all Jews voted for the nimrod. He won by 10M votes and had 69.5M total votes. The Jews contribution was minimal at best. That leaves a whole lot of idiots left over.

      By the way… total bla ck population is 17%, eligible, 9.2% That still leaves a lot of white folk who fell for his cr ap.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:03pm

      @mosey speed
      re : % of vote.
      ***
      Now I’d like to see the percentage of the illegal vote. We all know that’s the voters who won the election for him, whether downright fraud, or as one CA assemblywoman told a crowd of illegals, “Just because you‘re illegal doesn’t mean you can’t help get Obama elected!”

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  • AmericanTruthSeeker
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:56pm

    Just because he seems to be getting along just fine without admitting where he is from, does not mean other people will be fine doing the same. Most people take pride in where they are from & have nothing to hide.

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  • nysparkie
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:42pm

    This bugs the heck outta me: Israeli-Americans? Is he an Israeli or an American? I am an American.
    If your citizenship his here than why is this story not American Passport? If he is an Israeli, why isn’t it an Israel Passport? The picture in the story shows and American Passport so if it is a issue of visa’s or something else, this story is BOFFO!

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    • lylejk
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:57pm

      If you’ve read the article it said where they declared place of birth. Obviously you are from NY so you get my symphathy. :)

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    • JoeBtfsplk
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:33pm

      @LYlEJK,

      LOL, and right on!

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:39pm

    Isreal was attacked and answered with an ass kickin. Isreal‘s borders are what they are and I’d be more than happy to stand with them in defense of them.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 1:05pm

      Something of interest anyone who looks at a map of the Israeli 1967 borders can see clearly is that after the war with their neighbours (and yes they were hit first), the borders encompassed the Siani Peninsula in Egypt…so are the Egyptians going to be forced to give back that portion of the lands to Israel?

      Fair is fair, when demanding a return to the 1967 borders, they were held be Israel at one time after the war so they should, under the arguments of the administration, be returned to Israel governance.

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  • ClunkerT
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:38pm

    While they are at it, check President Obama’s Passport records. This President has a very dark and shady past and he needs to be investigated. A lot of dark and rotten activity happened in this President’s past. What SS# did he use to apply for a Passport? What Birth Certificate did he use to apply for a Passport? You should be very interested in where this investigation leads. Here is his SS# (042-68-4425). Report it to the Social Security Fraud department on line or by mail.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 5:01pm

      Had there been no peace deal between israel and egypt then yes that too would have to revert to pre 67israel.[fair is fair[.Since they have had a settlement between them AND since it has been UNCONTESTED between them then like say the US and mexican border it is what it is.If americans and mexicans were still fighting over borders then that would be contested and entail a negotiated settlement to resolve it. No conflict,no problem.[israel and egypt].Arabs [now called palestinian because all those bounderies are colonial artifically imposed divisions where prior to colonialism bounderies did not matter ,they were all arabs[jews,christians and muslims], have been occupied due to the ongoing border dispute being contested by those arabs as illigally aquired though war[might makes right is no longer valid to the world].But their homes and villiages and cities were where they were-like jeruslaem was arab inhabited [again arab jews,chrisitans and muslims]NOT europeans or jews from bkly.The people belong to their land by whatever name you give to their land or the people.Their homes and villages and lives of those arabs were lived in those lands[ including jerusalem] israel aquired in 67.Those 67contested borders are illigal as they were “aquired’ through war.I could envisions jerusalem as a seperate city state[like the vatican say] provided the 3 religions and its’ peoples have equitable political power.

       
    • 5775lindy
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 6:04pm

      ROSE ELLEN Those ‘67 borders were set in 40’s agreement to try for peace in the middle east. It only resulted in an almost 20 year muslim ban of all other faith practice in Jerusalem, Since Israel took back control of Jerusalem, they have had all faith practice- Jewish, Christian. AND Musim. Also, do not omit the fact that these borders shifted in ‘67 when Israel repulsed an Arab backed attack into Israel. This land was acquired when Israel pushed back their attackers.Even if history did not justify Israel’s claim on this land— they are entitled to their spoils of war!!

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:38pm

    @ANONYMOUS T. IRRELEVANT ~~ I agree. And, I cannot believe he is still in office! Hellllo, AMERICA!

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 7:38pm

      The ban was a result of european zionists colonization and eventually forming a jewish state..That caused conflict between the jews and muslims.]Before the zionist interlopers there was harmony between the 3 faiths.

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    • rose-ellen
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 8:05pm

      It is understandable considering european zionists ousted them from their homelands that they would be paranoid and afraid of both jews and christians[as the UN at the time was a colonialists club[christian].They were still in conflict with the newly extablished isreali state at the time thinking and hoping it was not a done deal[that they could reclaim their homelands from these european zionist interlopers who set up a zionist state at their expense].As things now stand they are not in struggle against the zionist state but in struggle against the illigal 67land gra and occupation of gaza..if arabs attacked in 67 it was because they were still in struggle against what was to them an illigal and harmful occurance for them [not because they hated jews for being jewish -though in the days of zionist settlers coming from europe to extablish a zionist state colonized by non indigenous arabs but euriopeans- then yes they sided with those who opposed these jewish zionists too and so colluded with german anti-semites occured as the enemy of my enemy is my friend rationale.And many irish for the same reason [regarding the over 4000yr,colonization by brits] colluded with germany too.Either way simply throwing out facts about war ravaged palestine when israel became a state and was still in conflict with its indigenous people is skewed anti arab propaganda.Thankfully some of your elites are getting it.!

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    • SCgunner
      Posted on July 30, 2011 at 11:49am

      rose you are the enemy, the one who will hide your face with a stocking as you weild the whip against all who oppose your doctrine. I pray you are not yet among us but when you are I will know as soon as you open your mouth. I will be the one that acts and there will be millions and millions more who will do the same. I wait with those thoughts silently and look forward to joining the battle……

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:38pm

    Has this POTIUS done ANYTHING right?
    I hope we can make it to 2012

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  • NotaLemming
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:36pm

    I hope Obama and his czars wind up in prison. so far there is no justice in America. Only a marxist progressive orchestrated division of Americans. O needs to GO!

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  • Zer0
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:34pm

    Guess what, American Jews? The Obama Administration did the math….turns out, your demographic is not needed in his “base”, for re-election, in his “Great Divide” strategy!

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  • Robert-CA
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:26pm

    Let them learn but so far from what I understand they‘re still gonna vote for him I could be wrong but apparently they didn’t learn their lesson yet cause they’re lib loons & they never really cared about Israel .

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  • KickinBack
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:25pm

    What if you were an American citizen of Muslim descent born in Jersualem?

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:42pm

      I would denounce all terrorist groups on a daily basis.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 10:32pm

      re : American Citizen of muslim decent born in Jerusalem.
      ***
      Cut through all the crap: born prior to 1967 list the land of birth according to what it said on your birth records; after 1967 those birth records should say Israel.
      I seem to recall the names of many countries changing in the last 20 + yrs. Did that change the original birth records? I’ll bet not, but I’ll still bet all those people put the NEW NAME OF THEIR COUNTRY ON THEIR PASSPORT APPLICATIONS? Could be wrong on that though.

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  • timej31
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:15pm

    The New York Times sheds more light on the issue. Maybe so but the IT guys here banned their subnet here so no one can go to places like this. Which is fine with me.

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  • Independent American
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:14pm

    We certainly don’t want to offend antisemitic extremists. This is all ********!

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:14pm

    I can’t believe he is STILL receiving support!

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  • I_Hate_Libs
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:04pm

    Nice work Jewish people you picked the wrong side.

    The horror of the Democrat mind.

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  • banjarmon
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:51am

    the Department is required to record Israel as the place of birth on passports of American children who were porn in Jerusalem,

    OOPS watch the spelling

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  • LadyIzShy
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:49am

    let hope the SCOTUS does the right thing, but with Kagen who can say

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:06pm

      I think we all expect Kagan to tow whatever line Obama wants her to tow.

      HOWEVER, this should not in any way be related to the president’s power to recognize foreign sovereigns. Recognizing someone born in Jerusalem as from Israel does not force Obama to recognize Israel or keep him from recognizing a palestine state. He’s intentionally trying to muddy the waters in order to control something he really has no authority over.

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  • 9.12momLynnette
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:48am

    lol. “porn in Israel” typos are too funny

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  • powhatan
    Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:46am

    I still want to know what passport Obama used to get into Pakistan….just saying…

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 11:51am

      AMEN bro!!!!!

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    • loriann12
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:15pm

      Exactly! Maybe that‘s what it’s such an issue for him.

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    • flagbearer
      Posted on July 29, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Funny, I thought about those Pakistan trips the other week when he was speaking before a gay group. Noone in the media picked up on the fact that he said that while he was in college he experimented. There have been past allegations that he and the person he went with to Pakistan were in a relationship, and that it was on these trips that he worked with the CIA. I don’t think such work was optional, but it also seems that it created a Columbia University cover. All speculation and conspiracy theory I know, but the more incidental info I hear, the more ties/truth there seems to be.

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