Israeli Deputy PM: Ahmadinejad Didn‘t Actually Say Israel Must Be ’Wiped off the Map’
- Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:45pm by
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Israel’s deputy prime minister acknowledged this week that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has never actually said Israel must be “wiped off the map.”
The oft-repeated quote attributed to Ahmadinejad is actually a mis-translation of remarks he made in 2005. According to Israel’s Ynet News, Ahmadinejad was actually quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini when he said: “The imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
In an interview with Al Jazeera, Dan Meridor said Iran’s leaders nevertheless have a history of making other incredibly disturbing statements.
“They all come, basically ideologically, religiously, with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive,” said Meridor, who also serves as minister of intelligence and atomic energy. “They didn’t say, ’We’ll wipe it out,’ you’re right. But ‘It will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor that should be removed,’ was said just two weeks ago again.”
When Al Jazeera reporter Teymoor Nabili said he was “glad” to hear Meridor acknowledge the distinction, Meridor repeated: “They say it will be removed, needs to be removed.”
“They said that it will cease to exist in a historical context,” Nabili said.
“This is what they said, Israel should not exist, it’s not legitimate, not the borders, not the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, not Jerusalem, not refugees, Israel is unnatural, it will not exist, it is on the verge of collapse,” Meridor said. “When you hear that from these people you need to take it seriously.”
He added, “To say not to take it seriously, [say it's] just rhetoric, is wrong.”
Watch the entire interview below; specific comments about begin at the 4:10 mark:




















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Comments (146)
Bolo2811
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:33pm@ringadingding……………..
History is on MY SIDE. So who’s brainwashed?…………….You wanna start with post WW1 balfour declaration? in reference to the mythical “palestinians”, you want to address the historical FACT of “palestinians” being in REALITY Jordanians? Where do you want to start? But of course i’m sure you MUST be privy to some unknown source of information that no one else seems to know. Please, make my day. Oh, and PLEASE…just FACTS….Not your anti-semitic conjecture.
Report Post »cuinsong
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:53pmSo Its just rhetoric and we should burry our heads in the sand. Pay no attention to all those rockets their just figments of your imagination. Theirs no buggy man everything is fine. Wrong!
Report Post »These people do not know how to live in harmony with neighbors. It’s not in their thinking.
They only know killing & hate. This song is about their culture.
“That’s Not Right” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789999
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:42pmFYI, here is Ron Paul on the issue of radical Islamists.
See here.
War and the Constitution | Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo4kdGhsbls#t=34m36s
“The Arab nations are united like they’ve never been united before. … So the Islamic fundamentalists have exactly what they’ve been looking for maybe for a thousand years. … And if there’s ever any understanding of the Arab thought process, I mean we are doing everything conceivable to support the enemy on what we’re doing.”
Report Post »thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:14amisrael firsters like you are sickening, the israeli government announced a 12 million dollar plan to pay american jjews to post pro israel comments and defend israel in the court of american public opinion, they are instructed to use “ non jjewish sounding names” deceitful trash these people are.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:32am“Israel’s deputy prime minister acknowledged this week that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has never actually said Israel must be “wiped off the map.”
So all those UN translators, over all these years, mis-translated him? If that’s true, how can we trust anything the UN translators…. translate? This sounds so… Hilary Clintonish…..
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:52amNews the MSM isn’t showing.
See here.
Paul Supporters Sweep Oklahoma District 4
Report Post »http://www.dailypaul.com/228095/paul-supporters-sweep-oklahoma-district-4
Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:18am@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Here’s what Ron Paul says about Iran getting a nuclear weapon:
WALLACE: As for Iran’s nuclear ambitions, you wrote this: “One can understand why they might want to become nuclear capable, if only to defend themselves and to be treated more respectfully.”
Is that your policy towards Iran?
PAUL: Well, even our own CIA gives me this information, that they have no evidence that they’re working on a weapon. Just think of what we went through in the Cold War. When I was in the Air Force, after I was drafted in the Air Force, all through the ’60s, we were — we were standing up against the Soviets. They had like 30,000 nuclear weapons with intercontinental missiles.
Just think of the agitation and the worrying of a country that might get a nuclear weapon some day. And just think of how many nuclear weapons surround Iran. The Chinese are there. The Indians are there. The Pakistanis are there. The Israelis are there. The United States is there. All these countries — China has nuclear weapons.
Why wouldn’t it be natural that they might want a weapon? There’d be — internationally, they’d be given more respect. Why should we write people off? There was — you know, in the ’50s, we at least talked to them. At least our leaders and Reagan talked to the Soviets.
Report Post »What’s so terribly bad about this?
Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:21amSo, Ron Paul’s position is “what’s so bad” about Iran getting a nuclear weapon?
Gee, Dr. Paul. What’s so bad about that? Oh…I’m sure nothing at all.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:23am@thinknotrepeat
They did?!?!
Then you‘d think there’d be a link to that somewhere. Perhaps someone caught a screenshot of the proof?
Or is that just an unsubstantiated assertion from another anti-Semetic?
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:25amDoes anyone remember the unicorn Obama road down the rainbow and into the whitehouse? Ron Paul rides its mate.
Report Post »moreoilplease
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:35am“Washed from the pages of time” or “Cancerous tumor that must be removed” is clearly a threat. If your neighbor says that you would take it seriously too. Maybe they, and by they I mean Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran, now Egypt and Turkey have had leaders say similar things, only mean these statements as provocative rhetoric. But to dismiss it summarily as rhetoric would be really, really, really, colossally stupid on Israels part. Luckily for them, they don’t.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:50am@Jaycen,
“Here’s what Ron Paul says about Iran getting a nuclear weapon: …”
Our Founders had the same foreign policy as Ron Paul: Ignore other nations’ wars, and be willing to trade with all countries, whether they were in a war with someone else, or not.
National sovereignty is exactly that. Unless they’re attacking us, we don’t have a right to tell them what to build.
Further, OUR CIA started hostilities toward the Iranians in 1953 with the coup against their democratically elected PM – and we did it for a British oil company.
And now, our sanctions against Iran is hurting their citizens, economically. In this case, WE are the aggressor.
See here.
Closing Hormuz
http://lewrockwell.com/block/block193.html
The Progressives have historically been the interventionists, not the Republicans. The Progressives are responsible for WWI, WWII – they tricked us into war.
We have been played by Progressives for a LONG time.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 3:48am@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
So, to be clear – Ron Paul says he’s good with Iran having nuclear weapons.
To counter that point, you make excuses for why Iran might want to attack America? So, blame America first. Is that another Ron Paul platform plank?
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 3:52amThe Progressives have historically been the interventionists, not the Republicans. The Progressives are responsible for WWI, WWII – they tricked us into war.
We have been played by Progressives for a LONG time.
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You are somewhat correct. What do you consider interventionism? Sanctions are “interventionist”? No, they aren’t. They don’t even work as a deterant. Then what’s your point? It’s hurting the people? No, it simply isn’t helping them.
It’s not our job to see to it that the Iranian economy makes Iranians happy. That’s the problem of the Iranian people and their government. Theirs is totalitarian, in case you didn’t know. There’s nothing wrong with us funding anti-government movements, so long as they aren’t also Islamist.
There’s nothing wrong with supporting Israel when they want to deal with their own neighbors.
Report Post »Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 7:51am@cuinsong
“These people do not know how to live in harmony with neighbors. It’s not in their thinking.
They only know killing & hate.”
The ignorance of that is astounding. How many Muslims do you know? How many times have you been to the middle east? I’m guessing zero on both. Christianity is filled with more call to violence than any other religion. To claim otherwise is absurd.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 10:43am@Jaycen,
“What do you consider interventionism? Sanctions are “interventionist”? No, they aren’t. They don’t even work as a deterant. Then what’s your point? It’s hurting the people? No, it simply isn’t helping them.
“It’s not our job to see to it that the Iranian economy makes Iranians happy. That’s the problem of the Iranian people and their government. Theirs is totalitarian, in case you didn’t know. There’s nothing wrong with us funding anti-government movements, so long as they aren’t also Islamist.”
You readily accept the idea of a global government, and don’t even realize it.
Sanctions disrupt the international division of labor, and, as our experience with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff during the Great Depression, in effect, showed, cutting our own citizens off from the international division of labor is shooting ourselves in the foot. Therefore, the only economically viable means to economically cripple another country is to collude with other countries in an international governmental alliance.
If you like sanctions, then you like global government. You favor this approach at your own peril.
Yes, technically, individuals have a right to refuse to trade with Iran (our government doesn’t have a right to tell us not to); But the effects of your approach are like what our Smoot Hawley did to us.
It hurts the citizens who now must resist the sanctions to survive.
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 10:54am(Continued)
This is what Thomas Jefferson said should be how we deal with “belligerent nations” at war with others, but not at war with us.
See here.
Third Annual Message to Congress by Thomas Jefferson
http ://www.teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?docu*****ment=664
(Remove asterisks)
“We have seen with sincere concern the flames of war lighted up again in Europe, and nations with which we have the most friendly and useful relations engaged in mutual destruction. While we regret the miseries in which we see others involved let us bow with gratitude to that kind Providence which, inspiring with wisdom and moderation our late legislative councils while placed under the urgency of the greatest wrongs, guarded us from hastily entering into the sanguinary contest, and left us only to look on and to pity its ravages.” …
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 10:59am(Continued)
… “These will be heaviest on those immediately engaged. Yet the nations pursuing peace will not be exempt from all evil. In the course of this conflict, let it be our endeavor, as it is our interest and desire, to cultivate the friendship of the belligerent nations by every act of justice and of incessant kindness; to receive their armed vessels with hospitality from the distresses of the sea, but to administer the means of annoyance to none; to establish in our harbors such a police as may maintain law and order; to restrain our citizens from embarking individually in a war in which their country takes no part; to punish severely those persons, citizen or alien, who shall usurp the cover of our flag for vessels not entitled to it, infecting thereby with suspicion those of real Americans, and committing us into controversies for the redress of wrongs not our own;”
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Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 11:10am(Continued)
Ron Paul has seen the effects of sanctions time and again, and they usually lead to war because of the economic destruction they cause.
See here.
Starve the Iranians? No!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul623.html
“Before the House of Representatives: Statement Opposing the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act, December 15, 2009 …”
“As we have learned with US sanctions on Iraq, and indeed with US sanctions on Cuba and elsewhere, it is citizens rather than governments who suffer most. The purpose of these sanctions is to change the regime in Iran, but past practice has demonstrated time and again that sanctions only strengthen regimes they target and marginalize any opposition. As would be the case were we in the US targeted for regime change by a foreign government, people in Iran will tend to put aside political and other differences to oppose that threatening external force. Thus this legislation will likely serve to strengthen the popularity of the current Iranian government. Any opposition continuing to function in Iran would be seen as operating in concert with the foreign entity seeking to overthrow the regime.”
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 11:36am@Jaycen,
I wish you would consider these.
See here.
Ron Paul’s 2002 Predictions All Come True – Incredible Video!
http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0
And here.
Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!
http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
And here.
Ron Paul on “Letters of Marque and Reprisal”
http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSP9NteApqI
And here.
How Ron Paul Would Defend America
Report Post »http ://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/01/06/how-ron-paul-would-defend-america/
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:28pm@Reality_Bites_You_on_the_Ass,
“The ignorance of that is astounding. How many Muslims do you know? How many times have you been to the middle east? I’m guessing zero on both. Christianity is filled with more call to violence than any other religion. To claim otherwise is absurd.”
It doesn’t help that the Marxists in our government will use blowback to incite America into war with a people whose religion promotes the conquest of non-Muslim people.
There are good people who claim to be Muslims. But Islam is a hateful religion, and a lie.
The only reason there are peaceful Muslims is because they are either not following Islam, or because they are engaged in Taqiyya.
The Christians in America don’t despise Arab nations because they have a different faith, but because they know Islam demands their destruction.
My only fear about Ron Paul is that his reliance on Robert Pape’s work, in support of his position that our occupations are a major source of hostilities toward the US (which is true), seems to reveal an ignorance of the fact that CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood front group whose purpose is to use Taqqiya to subjugate America to Sharia law.
But even if Ron Paul is ignorant about CAIR’s motives, our Founders devised a remedy for such a thing, if we just got back to the Constitution. The solution to Taqqiya is state sovereignty, and Senators appointed by state legislatures.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:43pmThis is how our Founders intended the Constitution to provide for defense against Taqqiya-like tactics.
See here.
Federalist Papers #10
http://constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm
“The influence of factious leaders may kindle a flame within their particular States, but will be unable to spread a general conflagration through the other States. A religious sect may degenerate into a political faction in a part of the Confederacy; but the variety of sects dispersed over the entire face of it must secure the national councils against any danger from that source. A rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project, will be less apt to pervade the whole body of the Union than a particular member of it; in the same proportion as such a malady is more likely to taint a particular county or district, than an entire State.”
And here is a good article on why we don’t have the State sovereignty that would protect us from the tactics of Taqqiya.
See here.
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment
Report Post »http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo93.html
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:58pmMany good things would come from Ron Paul restraining the Executive Branch to its Constitutionally enumerated duties, including a defense against the tactics of Taqqiya by way of a general empowering of the several states.
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »Constitution Hour
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:34pmSad that this topic (Israel) brings out the worst in people on both sides of the debate. Has anyone noticed? the mention of the “Zionist regime” I.E. government that runs Israel is the target of Iranian hate and NOT the People of Israel? Perhaps you know the history and facts of people like Herzl, Marx,Hess et al.? While we are at it, who are the people mentioned by Ramses the II? The sea people who they called Palete, residing in the reigon of the levant?
Report Post »When were Israel and Jerusalem destroyed and by whom? What does the Scripture say about Israel being destroyed never to rise again? What do some Jews think about modern State of Israel? http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/visitorcomments/topic_titles.cfm?topic=Questions from Christians Does this make them or me an Anti-Semite? What is Zionism? Does this mean I side with Iran? I doubt that anyone will actually take the time to read or learn anything regarding this subject. The truth might disturb your reality.
Constitution Hour
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 1:57pm@ BOLO2811
“the historical FACT of “palestinians” being in REALITY Jordanians?”
FACT? Yes please explain your version of history.
Report Post »Once you have enlightened us with the “FACTS” explain how this has any meaning in the modern conflict between the israeli Government and the Palestinian people.
recoveringneocon
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 3:14pm@@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
How many of the so called Conservative Talk show hosts and Presidential Candidates repeated this lie? And now that Israel’s deputy prime minister acknowledged this week that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has never actually said Israel must be “wiped off the map.” Which Ron Paul and others have noted on more then one occasion. Then some how the sheepel on “ezalB ehT” can try attempt to twist it into Ron Paul’s fault?? Just think how hard it must be for these poor souls to live and follow mentors that knowingly miss lead you.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 4:12pm@recoveringneocon,
“How many of the so called Conservative Talk show hosts and Presidential Candidates repeated this lie? And now that Israel’s deputy prime minister acknowledged this week that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has never actually said Israel must be “wiped off the map.””
I‘m not convinced there’s a meaningful difference between “wiped off the map” and “regime change”. Islam demands the eradication of Israel.
Not that their wars are any of our business. In fact, it should trouble the Christian that the land of Israel was returned to the Jews via international agreement.
Indeed, had the US not involved itself in WWI, there likely would not have been a Hitler to commit the Holocaust in WWII, and who knows whether there could have been a more peaceful way for the Jews to reclaim their rightful land.
We could have avoided the creation of a UN, the goal of Progressives’ wars.
What I would do, to try to convince Christians not to support our involvement in a war with Iran – other than the fact that it’s not our war – is show them that their Mossad Chief doesn’t think a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to Israel.
See here.
HUGE: ANOTHER Mossad Chief Agrees With Ron Paul: Nuclear Armed Iran NOT Inevitably A Threat to Israel
Report Post »http://www.dailypaul.com/198088/huge-another-mossad-chief-agrees-with-ron-paul-nuclear-armed-iran-not-inevitably-a-threat-to-israel
ViewPointtt
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 5:44pmHistory is definately on your side. The day after Israel achieved its 1948 nationhood, it was attacked by 5 Muslim nations. Each attacking nation was a minimum of 650% larger than the sliver that is Israel. Yet Israel, although it did not have more than a single day to get on its feet militarily, economically, defeated all five attacking nations. This is the not the mere equivalence of one solitary man defeating 3,250 men… the odds were even greater… because all but one nation refused to sell weapons to a desperate and pleading Israel… it was not the U.S… only Czechoslovakia aided Israel.
Report Post »ViewPointtt
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 5:46pmSo whereas the 5 attacking Muslim nations had every, numerous and the greatest of weapons, Israel began its defense with far from enough weapons to arm their men… not yet trained soldiers… so they were simply desperate, determined men. There were additional attacks on Israel since 1948 such as the 6-Day war of 1967 in which Israel defeated Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. How can this be possible? How can such a tiny, unprepared nation win against such odds? There can be only one reasonable explanation. And yet we are to believe that Islam is not united in their objective to wipe Israel off the map?
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:59pmNo Iran would never do anything like attack Israel, give me a break they have been attacking Israel by proxy for years .Where do you think hizbullah in north and hamas in the south get all the rockets, guns and money for payment to all the suicide bombers family.Petrol dollars from Iran buys whatever they need.
Report Post »saraand
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:52pmTrend of the interview – to convince us, that we imagine that Iran wants to develop a nuclear threat.
Report Post »It’s unbelievable.
thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 11:30pmeither you are one of the paid jeewish commenters working for israel or you are just too stupid to exist, everyone knew the “ wipe off the map” lie was being used to justify sending our children to invade iran for aipac, Its an on the record statement that was translated days after he made it and exposed as a lie, when will gb stand up to aipac? all the phony threats he sells you while you are nothing more than useful idiots doing israels bidding ,parroting slogans and expressing loyalty to a third world toilet as they coordinate with aipac and krystal,krauthammer,bolton et al to manipulate us into another war for israel, you should read the israeli media and read the comments,lol, they despise christians and consider you morons and useful idiots, google this “ jeews spitting on americans visiting israel on easter” their religion teaches them to spit on a crucifix if they see one and spit when passing christian cemeteries, google it
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:28amAre the anti-Semites here truely Ron Paul supporters, or just other Progressive trash come to troll The Blaze?
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 4:55pmIf your not willing to send your children to fight for Israel you’re an Anti-Semite. On the other hand if your willing to send someone’s else’s kids you’re a good Christian.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:57pmAyatollah Ruhollah Khomeini …
“Those who know nothing about Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those people are witless. Islam says: ‘Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all!’ Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by the infidel? Islam says: ‘Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter them.’ Islam says: ‘Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword.’ The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
Sir Winston Churchill…
“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step…”
“The sword of Muhammad and the Quran are the most fatal enemies of civilization, liberty, and the truth which the world has yet known.” – The eminent orientalist Sir William Muir (1819-1905).
Ron Paul….
“Islam is not our enemy.”
Report Post »americangriffin
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:08pmSo everyone agrees that Ayatollah Khomeini is a crazy and a loose cannon…but then they quote him as the ultimate authority on Islam…yeah that would be like asking the Westboro Baptist Church what it means to be a Christian and then using what they say as a blanket statement of what all Christians believe.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:17pmYeah cause we all know how much muslims love jews & christians to death.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:34pmAG. Ron Paul insists that we should listen to radical Islamists to learn what motivates them. But I can‘t help but suspect he hasn’t taken his own advice.
Does the understand what the Umma is? What sharia is? What geopolitical goals Islamists seek? It’s true as he says that they hate the fact we can exert influence abroad. But that’s only half the story, the other half is that they believe it is they who should be exerting that same influence. Not that such influence is inherantly bad, but that it inherantly belongs to them, “alone.”
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:54pmAmericanGriffith,
One major difference:
Khamanei rules a COUNTRY of 75 milliion, and seeks nuclear weapons
Westoboro Baptist Church has a CONGREGATION of just 50, and has NO weapons
The difference is significant — one to be taken seriously!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:57pmSCOUT. Very pithy comment, very correct comment…
Report Post »philipzhao
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:43pmWrong Paul !
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:23pm@TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12,
“Ron Paul….
““Islam is not our enemy.””
See here.
War and the Constitution | Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo4kdGhsbls#t=34m36s
“The Arab nations are united like they’ve never been united before. … So the Islamic fundamentalists have exactly what they’ve been looking for maybe for a thousand years. … And if there’s ever any understanding of the Arab thought process, I mean we are doing everything conceivable to support the enemy on what we’re doing.”
YES, there are Muslims overseas that don’t need a reason to up and decide to try to kill us, and we should kill them WHEN they are attacking us.
But if you don’t understand their motivation for killing, you will not know when you are in the wrong, NOR WILL YOU KNOW when your government is deliberately trying to get you to go to war, like as happened in WWI and WWII.
Clinton was bombing civilians; THAT WAS THE REASON FOR 9/11. It was wrong for them to retaliate against our citizens, so Ron Paul agreed with the idea to capture or kill those responsible.
Surely, the Left-incited Arab Springs and their Occupy movements are SOME indication to you that Obama is trying to provoke America to go to war.
Wake the hell up, tool.
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:53pmwiping of the map wiping off the page not much difference. It is all evil in nature
Report Post »Leadthemtothelight
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:45pm“The imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
Report Post »Brought to us by the oh so peaceful and concerned with human rights people from Iran.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a real sweetheart for sure. Why are people backtracking at this point? It is no secret after all that muslims hate jews. God help us all but when the time comes The USA had better stand up for them. I guess it all depends upon who is POTUS and where they are in their vacation schedule.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:22pmI have pointed this out many times. The Iranians are cagey little buggers. They never threaten that they themselves will wipe Israel out. They simply follow the CYA principle, predicting that “somehow” it will disappear.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:07pmPermissible lies are reinforced in Islamic Law.
“Reliance of the Traveller, A Classical Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”
HOLDING ONE’S TONGUE CHAPTER
PERMISSIBLE LYING
r8.2 The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said,
“He who settles disagreements between people to bring about good or says something commendable is not a liar.”
“I did not hear him permit untruth in anything people say, except for three things: war, settling disagreements, and a man talking with his wife or she with him (A: in smoothing over differences).”
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:01pmAs I said, they have covered themselves. They are not lies. They are simply “predictions.”
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:17pmI think they would like to be a prime motivating force in that process, plus the biggest player in the region and beyond.
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:13pmPersonally I think the GOP has made a HUGE mistake by not supporting Ron Paul. The youth of America is FINALLY behind a Republican candidate. This could grow into a solid change for the future. But, nope same o same o with Romney. Will I vote for Romney. Yes in the General. But, I will vote for Ron Paul in the Primary.
Do I think we need to help defeat Iran. YES. Do I think we need to stand with Israel YES!! Do I think we need to allow Israel to do what Israel needs to do YES!!! Do I still support Ron Paul YES… Ron Paul would have no choice but to stand with Israel in their time of need. To think he wouldn’t is absurd. Even Obama will stand with Israel when the time comes. We have too close a tie and a great friendship with Israel. As we do with Great Britain. Do you honestly think that Obama or ANY president wouldn’t help defend Great Britain. Even tho Obama is hostile to them.
If you are not voting for Ron Paul because of Israel then you are misguided. And you are still stuck in the Left Right paradigm that Glenn Talks about. Is Ron Paul the PERFECT candidate. No but, is there really a perfect candidate. Think about it folks.. Mitt Romney?? He is our next Ronald Reagan type of leader to pull us from the Abyss? Seriously? ugh.. we haven’t learned a thing. Ronald Reagan is who got me started on the road. I was 18 at the time. Yes 18. And i’ve never looked back. Thanks to Ronald Reagan and my wonderful parents I am and have always been
Report Post »chazmo
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:15pma conservative. As long as the GOP continues down this RHINO path we will doom this party forever.
Report Post »IndyNWguy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:55pmFrom what I can gather based on any RP related topics, you’re due for a healthy dose of hatred and fear from your fellow Blazers here.
BTW, I’m in 98% agreement with you. I will not vote for Romney if for no other reason than contempt for Republicans who are stubbornly pushing to keep us on the same track.
I happen to be 100% fed up. Would rather take a bullet to the head (Obama) than burn to death (Romney). The only other alternative is restoration, but we’ve agreed by backing Romney, that “restoration” is now simply conservative rhetoric for “slower destruction”.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:15pm“Would rather take a bullet to the head (Obama) than burn to death (Romney). The only other alternative is restoration, but we’ve agreed by backing Romney, that “restoration” is now simply conservative rhetoric for “slower destruction”.
Sooooo, you are on the record for an Obama vote right?
Naw, sorry… I know it your “conscience” that guides you. Damn any and all Conservatives who think Paul’s a subversive seditionist.
Report Post »lassiegirldawn
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:24pmHow come people walked out of the UN for those exact words? Several high people in Isreal are trying to sabotage their own people. Yes those words were said.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:09pmAhhh? It was just a big mistake and what “he REALLY SAID” makes it all the better?? Iran is a pimple on the a$$ of the planet and should be POPPED post haste!!! No interpreter needed I said it…..
Report Post »HKS
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:44pmDitto.
Report Post »thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:22amsend YOUR jeewish children and their bretheren to die for israel, we christian americans will never let you vile scheming vermin ever force us to sacrifice american boys for the third world toilet you call israel. never again
Report Post »trueamerican40
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:07pmIran could care less about defective missiles imported from China or Russia. How can I explain this–they are like a child who gets a disassembled bike on Christmas Eve…screw putting it together…the child will sit on it first and PRETEND that it is ready. Iran just wants a crude nuclear device—they already have their suicide bombers for Allah ready…strap it on and go…forget about missiles.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:03pmO…Your about right…Stories today have a way of always linking themselves together..Just wait..After last week SS fiasco the revelation of the GSA, Hillary’s Colombian beer party. The story just posted on poor management use of email.. Then you look at the guberments workers emails back and fourth of how they really don’t know or do anything…You can smell it coming….We will be getting our next 9/11 somewhere or somehow ..And the whole nonsense will start all over..You will hear…Well we dropped the ball, so and so didn’t get the email or text..So and so was out on a guberment lunch training meeting..and so and so was waiting for so and so to get back..O …Yea it’s coming….
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:05pmProof?
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:59pmhow many iranian rockets were launched into israel this year????hmmmmmmmmmmmm nuff said thank you
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:52pmMaybe Iranian power brokers have come to realize they are in an untenable situation. Perhaps they are looking for a way to scale back/down from the precipice they are teetering on. Maybe Iran has had an epiphany and decided that they must turn back if they want to remain on the planet.
wishful thinking I know…………………….
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:47pmOOOHHH well thats ok..it wasnt the puppet president of iran that said it, but the “supreme leader” in charge of the president. .i guess ahmahdinnerjackets a nice guy after all…im gonna put him back on my chrismas list. #eyerolls
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:38pmSemantics.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:42pmThey‘re kind of important though when we’re talking about WW3, the loss of our freedom and complete collapse of our financial system, no?
Report Post »CUBLY
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:31pmDoes this remind anyone else of Bill Clinton stating: “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” ?
Report Post »Patriot Z
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 11:15pmyep its the equivilent of saying “I didnt say i wanted them to be shot, just that I hope they trip and fall on a bullet or die from “lead poisioning”…i never said “shot”” Islam wants the jews gone not from middle east but existance itself. we can argue about what set them off this time but the fact remains that islam is hostile and has been since its inception. They wont be happy til islam takes over the workld. its not just 1 small group but its the entire religion itself is geared for that sole purpose. if we wait until they get nukes and are equivilent to us israel is gone…america is gone..the western way of life will be gone. i would rather destroy them now and be done with it than waste time trying to talk to rabid animals. Its like saying we wouldnt kill baby hitler in his crib because it would be mean so we wait til he comes to power to do something. islam must be destroyed
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:14am@ Patriot Z
The reason they hate is because Christianity kills Islam without killing the Islamists. For Islam it’s the opposite – they have to actually kill the non-Islamist in order to further Islam.
Report Post »jacques.daspy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:29pmHas Israel actually had the power to wipe Iran off the map for over fifty years? Has the Iranian state existed at the benevolence of Israel? Iran is working on the capability to wipe out the cancer that is Israel with and untested weapon that is built by the Iranians? Will the Israeli air defense system detect the missil launch and destry it at their convience? Will the initial counter-battery response be from submarines or the missile silos in Israel? Will Allah have the facilities to give the entire nation of Iran a warm welcome?
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:34pmThey will put their eye out, and they will destry themselves.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:27pmDa…da…da…da…dun-dun-dun…TAQUIRA!
Report Post »Bolo2811
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:26pmSilly semantics. What’s the difference between saying “Israel must be wiped off the map” and saying “Israel is a ‘cancerous tumor’ that has to be removed? THEY ARE THE SAME SENTIMENT! This type of semantic demagouging is what liberal/socilists are well known for. If my enemy says to me: “You will be killed”, does that make it “ok” as long as he/she DOESN’T say “I’LL kill you”? NO! it’s the SAME THING. Well, as long as your not named “Israel” then it seems to be ‘ok’. Palestinians are a fraud and the globalists who push their bogus agenda do so out of an evil hatred that knows no borders.
Report Post »RingADingDing
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:45pmThe globalists? The globalists ARE Israel. They want a country full of white Jews but refuse to let Christians have a white country in America. You‘re so brain washed that it’s not even funny.
Report Post »floridaconservative
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:04pmringadindindong Israelis Globalist are kiding or just nuts what is it you want the united states with out any Jews Why? Your hatered for the Jewish people is showing and it aint pretty. I think you would be happier in Iraq You want a country with out the jews that is for white Christians? If that is wnat you trully feel then how can you call yourself Christian
Report Post »tzion
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:13pm@Bellboy(ringading)
Report Post »Only white Jews? Have you been to Israel? You know what, it doesn‘t matter because even if you haven’t that’s no excuse for ignorance. Ever hear of Ethiopian Jews? Guess what: they’re black. There are also numerous Jews of Persian, Moroccan, Egyptian, etc. descent that are NOT WHITE. Or at least not white as you were probably defining it.
tzion
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:15pm@Bellboy
Report Post »Oh and one more thing, not everyone in Israel is Jewish. There are even political parties whose memberships are entirely non-Jewish.
AmazingGrace8
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:25pmI will put alittle personal experience about how things are “worded” by people who want to do harm:
A few months before my mom left my dad, they were driving along & (my mom told me this), he raised his arm & fist & held it for a moment and said, “I ought to kill you”. My mom said (she was getting nerve enough after 46 yrs of this verbal/physical abuse), “Well, you better do a pretty good job of it”. Then my dad said, “Well I didn’t say I was going to kill you, just that I ought to kill you”. Months later, I was visiting my mom and my dad came out of the house and a few things happened (my mom was in the house) & my dad started walking towards me and said, “I am going to kill you”. I kept backing up(I was 40 yrs old) and then I said, “You are crazy”. He stopped & got in his car & mom came out and they drove away. The next day my sister & I met my mom in a private location…and she left him…etc.. Words DO HAVE meaning & guess this is why I am so concerned with Iran,N Korea, this admin. & their disregard for the constitution etc…….I believe we are in CLEAR & PRESENT DANGER and so is Israel!!!
Report Post »thinknotrepeat
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:45amshame people like you are allowed to vote,
Report Post »aChameleon
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:21pmWiped off the map= kill them all.
Report Post »Vanish from the page of time= kill them all and revise history so they will be completely forgotten.
Great, that’s much better.
wdittgasn
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:08pmI was going to say the same thing.
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:20pmWTF….who is the Israel Deputy PM giving into? Is this guy downplaying the seriousness of Iran and the threat they are. Has anyone noticed that no one is taking anything serious now, it seems as though all politicians world wide are downplaying everything. What is really going on, people need to wake up and wake up soon before it is too late.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 6:03pmIts not giving in. Its saying the truth. Iran poses zero threat to the United States and very little threat to Israel. I want all the gold in Fort Knox(if there is really any left) but I dont have the means or the desire to die so Fort Knox is safe. Same goes with Iran. Yes they hate Israel, they want Israel to die, but that doesnt mean they have the means or the desire to die.
Report Post »wdittgasn
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:10pmThey have seduced the people saying peace when there is no peace….Ezek 13:10
Report Post »trueamerican40
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:16pmThis isn’t caving in. It’s the quiet whisper before the loud bombardment. Netanyahu has already warned Iran for the last time. So Obama can get out of the way…the UN, with their anti-semitic bias, can join Obama and sulk all they want. Israel will NEVER forget the holocaust and will NEVER allow another one to happen.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:26pmSo… a Japanese 1941… moment?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:00pmWHAT… WHOM is caving to WHAT pressure? We all know the Iranian & Muslim plan… even Thomas Jefferson knew… it’s stated in the Koran!
Report Post »Pink_Panther_Party
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:57pmMaybe even, “Peace in our time,” eh, Mr. Meridor?
Good grief……unbelievable.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:56pmWhat? This cannot be right, the right wing media says this over and over again everyday!!!!
You would think someone said this already and maybe said we didnt need to attack Iran to protect Israel. Oh yeah it was said, Ron Paul said it so it was ignored.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:41pmWatch… Some of Paul’s supporters have been saying this on THIS SITE for months now. They were called crazy or anti-Semitic. I remember one saying that he sat with his Iranian friend and said the translation was bogus… Some neocon blazer responded how knew for a fact this guy was wrong…
Report Post »Now that what they were saying months ago is collaborated by a high-ranking Israeli official, it won’t even matter. We’re still crazy and anti-Semitic. WW3 must proceed as planned. They’ll come up with another reason. I don’t know how many times Paul and his supporters need to be proven right before these people will finally listen. Video examples of their precious GOP sabotaging events, missing trucks carrying votes, fraud rampant, media blackouts… GOP demonstrating it has no regards our freedom… yet, ABO, right fellas? Your GOP is letting the biggest executive powergrab since Hitler happen right before you eyes and they’re better than guy grabbing the power? They started the bailouts, the Patriot Act, selling our country out to the international comunity, yet they’re better than the Democrats. It’s an illusion people, the GOP and DNC are on the same team, only pretending to be against one another. There’s only a couple of people in Washington that are on our side. You can tell who they are by how they voted on the post 9/11 legislation. Meh… nevermind WE’RE CRAZY!!… Of course they made us that way.
kspatriot
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:55pmGee, this is what Ron Paul has been saying all along. Let’s not miss the ONE chance we have to save the Republic. RON PAUL 2012!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:31pmRon Paul is a 911 truther kook
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justangry
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:54pmBless ya KSPATRIOT!
and for you Republicansheep…
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Razorhunters
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:59pmya, that truth is a bit** .
9/11: Blueprint for Truth – WTC Building 7 – 10 minute Segment from AE911Truth.org Companion
to bad you are to flikin stupid to see the truth.
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:27pm911 was a inside job!
Report Post »IndyNWguy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:19pm@Republicorp
For the last several months I’ve quietly sat back and watched you post the same anti-Paul sentiments over and over. Quite frankly, it’s pathetic.
I don‘t know if it’s fear of your own hipocricy that drives you, or if you’re actually just this intellectually lazy. Allow me to try to put this into terms that you may be able to wrap your head around.
For over 100 years now, progressives have overtly and covertly been trying to undermine the United States of America. They are known for their use of brute force (OWS, Union Riots, etc…). They are known to for their use of subversive tactics (laws, regulation). They are known for their hatred of our values (religion, life, and constitutional government). And finally they are known for their use of inflationary monetary policy (which is needed in order to spend and tax covertly).
How do you feel about progressives Republicorp? Are they welcome here? Are you to a tipping point yet? How far must their agenda be pushed before you react violently? Do you resent and hate watching your country and way of life destroyed?
I suggest you try reading for a change. http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/ancient-history-us-conduct-middle-east-world-war-ii-folly-intervention
Sadly, for the millions of utterly ignorant on the right, RP is 100% correct. The road to hell is paved with great intentions (such as our self-serving intervention in the Middle East). There is no justification. Blowback was/is
Report Post »Concernd4USA
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:37pmThe best place for ron paul is in his own game since he is an isolationist. Good thing someone made one as an apple app. Lets build 50 foot fences around the whole country, and keep everyone out. One problem missiles fly over walls and fences. It is not 1800 and his isolationist crap is alex jones propaganda. Don’t drink the water. Kooks; all of them.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:51pmCONCERNED. They’ll tell you he (Paul) is NOT an “isolationist” but A “non-interventionalist”… which is in essence… somebody who does absolutely nothing. Nothing, nada, zip, zilch and zero.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:51pm@concerned
Actually Ron Paul is anti building a fence since they dont work. Who is going to attack us? Who has the missiles able to get to us and past our missile defense systems? Since the subject was Iran we will assume you are scared of Iran.
1. Iran has 4 submarines that are not diesel powered. Those four are no where near as advanced as our subs and anti sub defenses. They have a navy outside of subs that couldnt even make the trip to the United States because they would run out fuel. So a sea based missile is pretty much out of the question.
2. Their missile technology allows them to fire missiles max 1800kms. This is basically a regional missile not a ICBM. That is also with a non nuclear warhead which is much heavier and takes a much more advanced missile to deploy it. So a missile attack from Iran is also out of the question.
3. A land invasion is just funny to think about. They dont have enough fuel or food to even get their army into our hemisphere much less mount an invasion. This also is out of the question.
4. Making a bomb and giving it to a terrorist. Maybe this could happen, but honestly why would a terrorist group wanting to attack the United States use Iran for the bomb. There are plenty of bombs from the former Soviet Union and other nations they could get it from.
Bankrupting us over the fears is just dumb. The United States will not be destroyed from the outside. We will collapse from within because of idiots like
Report Post »resme
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 6:50am+1 mutiny, But, don’t use too much logic with the blazers. Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first Israel first, That sums up the thought process.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:57pmRepublicorp believes the official story of 9/11.
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 4:18pmNon-interventionism, the diplomatic policy whereby a nation seeks to avoid alliances with other nations in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to direct territorial self-defense, has had a long history in the United States.
A small sample of Non-interventionism early in our History. Seemed to work quit well for the first 140 years or so.
Thomas Paine is generally credited with instilling the first non-interventionist ideas into the American body politic; his work Common Sense contains many arguments in favor of avoiding alliances.
George Washington’s farewell address is often cited as laying the foundation for a tradition of American non-interventionism:
The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.
President Thomas Jefferson extended Washington’s ideas in his March 4, 1801 inaugural address: “peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” Jefferson’s phrase “entangling alliance
Report Post »recoveringneocon
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 4:20pmIn 1823, President James Monroe articulated what would come to be known as the Monroe Doctrine, which some have interpreted as non-interventionist in intent: “In the wars of the European powers, in matters relating to themselves, we have never taken part, nor does it comport with our policy, so to do. It is only when our rights are invaded, or seriously menaced that we resent injuries, or make preparations for our defense.”
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