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Israeli News Crew Attacked by Ultra-Orthodox Sect Near Jerusalem

Israeli News Crew Attacked in Beit Shemesh

(The Blaze/AP) Israeli police say a TV crew has been attacked by a group of ultra-Orthodox Jewish men in a city that has become a symbol of violent religious extremism.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld says ultra-Orthodox men surrounded a Channel 2 news truck in Beit Shemesh and hurled stones at it, lightly wounding one member of the TV crew.

He says the rioters also stole TV equipment.

Beit Shemesh is a city of 85,000 just outside Jerusalem. On Friday, Channel 2 aired a story about tensions in the city between modern Orthodox residents and the extremist ultra-Orthodox Haredi sect.

Israeli News Crew Attacked in Beit Shemesh

The story featured an 8-year-old American girl who says she is afraid to walk to school in the morning because the town’s Haredim have spat on her and cursed her. The Jerusalem Post reports that a haredi man from Beit Shemesh was released from the Jerusalem Magistrate Court Sunday for spitting at a woman he claimed was dressed immodestly.

The Post reports that a leader of the Beit Shemesh Eda Haredit group, Rabbi Shimon Shasi, had testified on the spitter’s behalf and told the court that while spitting or throwing things at women is forbidden, the haredim actually treat their women “like kings.”

Jerusalem police have pleaded with municipality inspectors to work with police to take down signs around the city demanding modest dress, including signs requiring pedestrians to wear modest clothes or, in one case, asking women to cross to the other side of the street in order to avoid walking by a yeshiva.
Video from JerusalemOnline News on the attack:
Israeli News Crew Attacked in Beit Shemesh

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  • josh345
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:51am

    This is not representative of all Jews! I am an American Jew who travels to Israel quite often. Sadly these people have quite a lot of kids, so their numbers are growing. Most modern Israeli Jews almost never go to Jerusalem unless they are visiting the Western Wall or a member of the government. Other than Jerusalem and settlements in the West Bank, Israeli Women wear short shorts and bikinis. Israel is a very modern, Western country. Most Haredi even avoid the military draft in Israel, and when walking in a Haredi neighborhood in Jerusalem I saw many posters comparing the Israeli government and police to the Nazis. These people are not Israel! Also, when leaving Jerusalem by car on Friday night, Haredi lining the road shouted at us, though luckily did not throw stones, as has happened to many people (we were on the border of a Haredi neighborhood, along a road which the Haredi seek to close down on Friday night and Saturday, as the roads in Haredi neighborhoods are. They can’t close it down because it is the main road in and out of Jerusalem).

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:55pm

      By The Blaze’s own standards this is is an anti-semitic article since it shows any Jew in a negative light.

      But Beck and The Blaze like all Christians hate Judaism and love non-religious Jews because they’re so much easier to convert to Christianity.

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    • BornJewishMuslimByFaith
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:46pm

      I agree with Zeng!

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  • SistaTriscuit
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 9:44am

    What is so hard for people to understand here? This is a small radical sect. Saying this is representative of all Jews is like saying Fred Phelps & his whacked out Westboro Baptist Church loons are representative of all Christians.

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    • SnowKalBebes
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:20am

      But it’s ok to hate ALL muslims for the actions of a few. Nice logic. Happy Hollidays to all of Beck’s sheeple!

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:22am

      The Haredim are expected to be 20% of Israel’s population by 2028. They are doubling their numbers every 12-20 years. They are a force to be reconned with.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:11am

      Good thing no one would say they represent all of Judaism, huh? However, saying are like the WBC is blatantly ignoring how large the group is. Currently around 10% of all Jews are part of this “small sect” as you call it. Most of them are located in Israel, and as has been mentioned, they will likely become 20% of the Jewish population there within the next decade or two.

      Religious fundamentalists (Christian, Jewish, Islamic, or any other) are extremely dangerous to a society based upon law rather than religious belief.

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    • Luke21
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:47pm

      @ Locked

      Your statement reveals your ignorance regarding where the Law comes from – due to your ignorance of the Law giver.

      Yeshua said: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-20)

      @SnowKalBebes

      Excellent point & apparently the same (il)logic you use to equate the vile spitting of one w/ the murder of the innocent by another (ala “suicide” bombings). Do you also equate abortion w/ a right of choice?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:54pm

      Well, Locke, as opposed to more modern forms of Judaism, Harerdim do not “forget” to multiply. That’s it in a nutshell. Demographics is the key to the future.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Don’t even begin to put words in my mouth SNOW. I don’t hate all Muslims those are your beliefs not mine. I am cautious of Muslims, absolutely. Do I say mean things to them or protest against them – NO. I don’t even hate the radicals, but I certainly have no qualms in eliminating them when necessary. You certainly can’t rehabilitate them.

      It is obvious you hate Republicans by your very own post. So how, for those that do hate all Muslims are different from YOU? So until you can honestly say, you don’t hate all Republicans then do not judge those who hate all Muslims. That would make you a HYPOCRITE!

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    • OmikeO
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:24pm

      SNOWKALBEBES. There are fanatics in any religion. But at least all of the modern Jews condemn that kind of behavior and are taking actions against it! Showing zero tolerance for discrimination of any kind!(and yes! nobody is perfect)!!! But Where are the modern Muslims in countries where women are being stoned?! Where are they condemning terrorist attacks, honor killings, gay rights, women rights… ?! Where are all the modern Muslims that stand up against the mass slaughter in Sudan where more than 5million “infidels” were butchered in the name of alla in the last 65 years?! Where are they??? Out of 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide I’ve heard of maybe 2 who are brave enough to stand against all that crap and publicly condemn it! The rest of the modern Muslims who condemn radicals are getting baptized! Funny isn’t it! So Please “SNOWKALBEBES” crawl back to that msnbc cave you came from and stay there!

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    • Mgindi26
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:55pm

      As an orthodox Jew I think I need to clarify things a little bit for the comment section.
      1. Jewish religous law does require that a woman dress modestly in public. this however foes not mean a Burqa or something that hides the womanfrom head to toe. Rather it is probably most simiiar to the way normal women dressed right here in the US prior to the 60′s and the sexual revolution. or the way a typical women dresses in an office, Skirt below the knee and sleeves below the elbow. Nothing constricting I would say more like digified.
      2. Jewish law also does not allow one to spit on someone else. The individuals that spit on people are wrong and do not represent all Haredim
      3. As far as keeping the sexes seperate as much as possible. In the US until sometime inthe 50′s public schools had seprate entrances for boys and girls. Nowaday some charter schools also are seperated. Studies have shown that people learn better and perform better when seperated from the opposite sex. This does not mean that women are lower than men, on the contrary it means that we put up fences to protect morality.
      4. Now I’m sure most reasonable people would agree that our society has not improved because of the sexual revolution, rather society has lost morals, looks at promicuity as the norm. Women have been more sexualized by putting up billboards with underwear models, and now if you believe the word of G-D that homosexuality is a sin or that sexuality should be in the bedroom you’re a hatemong

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:25pm

      “This is a small radical sect,” you said.
      Well… as of 2011, the total Jewish population of Israel is 5,818,000.
      In the same 2011, the Haredi sect has 1.3 Million Jews; the sect is growing rapidly and doubles every 12 to 20 years. Which means that today the Haredi sect comprises about 22.35% of Jewish population of Israel.
      I don’t know about you, but I am tired of under-educated, in many aspects simply illiterate Americans.
      For your convenience: the Black population in the USA is 12.6%; the Hispanic population – 16.3% (Census 2010).
      And 22.3% of Haredim doubling every 12 to 20 years in Israel is to you a “small group”? Wow!

      But I’d like to propose a small logical game based on “Yes or No” questions.
      Are the “ultra-orthodox“ Haredim following the Torah more consistently than the ”modern” orthodox Jews?
      Any literate person would answer “Yes.”
      Can we therefore come to a conclusion that the Torah primordial requirements with regard to women place in the Jewish society are a lot more strict than modern religious Jews want to obey?
      The answer again is “Yes”.
      Consequently, in terms of treatment of women, which religion is the orthodox Judaism closer to – Christianity or Islam?

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    • OmikeO
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 1:40am

      Nice numbers you got there Mr CONSTANTINE IVANOV. But you missed a small and a lightly important detail. The Haredi Jews are the modern orthodox Jews and there are 1.3 Million of them living in Israel.
      But the Ultra-orthodox haredi Jews are the “SICARII (Greek, σικάριοι = assassins, dagger-men)“ and the ”NETUREI KARTA“ in Aramaic term for ”Guardians of the City”. They don’t even believe in existence of the state of Israel and they are anti-zionism, as weird as it sounds. They represent only 0.1% of the Haredi orthodox population. Do your math now Mr Einstein!

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:12am

    Media set-up / hit job..?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:23am

      Extra spin, yes. Setup, no. That haredim sect is really that dense.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:57am

      Is this the beginning of their version of separation of church and state ?

      The Muslims that live in Jerusalem , are they prohibited from posting signs?

      I’m NOT defending the action of these people ,
      throwing stones or spitting or any other hate filled actions.

      Is this “sect” being used “because of their extremist methods”
      to promote someones agenda…(useful idiots)…..???

      I’m looking through the glasses of ….OUR ONCE GREAT NATION…!
      That’s been almost totally castrated from any Public Christian Acknowledgement .

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  • Baddoggy
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 6:06am

    This is the Jewish equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church if you really want a comparison. They hide behind religion and do not know God.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:02am

      If the Westboro Baptist was 10% of the Christian population, maybe you’d be right. 1.3 million Haredi Jews; 13.4 million worldwide Jewish population. To give you an idea of the percentages, there would need to be almost 5 times as many Baptists (of all denominations, not just SBC) to come close to these percentage numbers for Christianity.

      Religious extremists of all stripes are scary. This one is a large, and growing, minority within the Jewish religion, and has been a topic for years among the Israeli government.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:35pm

      I agree with LOCKED, any religious sect that takes their beliefs to the wrong side of GOD is very dangerous. When you read into too much of what a passage says and twist it to conform to your beliefs, that is when you become dangerous. And just so people know where I am coming from, I do equate myself as a Christian. I consider myself non-denominational now, but had equated myself as Presbyterian in my younger years.

      If this was a Christian group I would condemn their actions as much as I condemn the Haredi’s actions. If you want to keep your traditions, then live with like minded people. If you decide to live outside this area, then you get what you get. Either learn to live with it or move.

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  • Mel D.
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 5:39am

    I would like to see the American Ultra Orthodox Hassidic community condemn this behavior. I would hope that unlike these vile citizens of Jerusalem, American Jews know that to live with others, there are times that their religious exuberance has to be reigned in.

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  • BornJewishMuslimByFaith
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:20am

    I wanted to point out that many Jews do not like be bother of the Sabbath. The event happened on Friday but many traditional Jews do not like to be bothered. Show respect.

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  • Robert-CA
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:06am

    These are the radical loons , they also attack on Saturdays people that wanna eat @ restaurants or wanna see a movie , the police chase them down & arrest them .
    So just imagine these radical loons with the other radical loons on the other side of the border making peace .

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  • Steve0218
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:56am

    Don’t paint all Jews with the same brush. The headline clearly say‘s that this is a ’sect’. This is not the standard by which women are treated in Israel. You can find places in the US where women are treated poorly. What about the sect that promotes polygamy and adult men marry young girls?? I don’t want to be painted with the same brush as them, nor do you. So, why do many of you want to paint all Jews with the same brush because of a small sect??

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    • JTMailman
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:36am

      No one paints all Jews this way, but the news that they exist is interesting and important.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:05am

      This “small sect” is 10% of the world’s Jewish population. To give you an idea of how that would compare to Christianity, you would need almost 5 times the number of all the Baptist denominations combined to come close to this percentage.

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  • Drakkhanlord
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:50am

    If any want to know the how’s and why of the so called Arab Spring …
    Year of the Dupe…
    http://www.infowars.com/2011-%e2%80%93-year-of-the-dupe/

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:33am

    I am shocked.. these are Jews?? They sound more like muslims.. what is going on? God help us all!

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  • Drakkhanlord
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:25am

    Ok , why hasnt the News media been reporting on this…?

    These mf’ers are as bad as all the rest of the crazy sobs in the middle east…

    i keep reading and hearing all say “ i stand with Israel ” …care to explain why?

    Would really like to know why the US keeps sending $100′s of billions to these
    back azswards countries every dam year…
    (Israel ,egypt, etc etc)

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:07am

      Oh yes they are all the same aren’t they….oh wait nope. These jerks aren’t strapping bombs to themselves and killing innocents. They are just pigs who should be jailed and disgust me, as a Jew I say they disgust me and renounce any of this behavior. When is the muslim community going to do that…oh wait nope they don’t. You are comparing apples and oranges

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    • Drakkhanlord
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:21am

      that explained nothing.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:31am

      ““ i stand with Israel ” …care to explain why?”

      People have their own reasons. For me it can be summarized by the following two.
      1. Israel represents the only beach head of western civilization in ME.
      2. Israel is a canary in a coal mine. If Israel falls, we are not far behind.

      As for monies given away by SD… These particular give-aways were started by Carter administration. You can look up the official rationale (reward for peace process). But for me, it is interesting that the transfers were initiated by a known anti-semite. My take is that the Egypt is simply paid off for jealousy reasons. In the case of Israel, Carter intended to keep Israel on a leash.
      Worked well during Gulf War 1991.

      I would cancel all the payments in the current form and left only the loans or convert all the transfers into loans (Israel always repays them, so that is like money in the bank plus interest). That would free Israel from undue influence of US admin on Israeli politics. No transfers to Egypt, Jordan, etc. If they want aid, loans only.

      Egypt military knows that the moment it loses its hold on Egypt, the transfers are likely to stop. The GDP is currently in a state of free fall (tourism–the main source of revenue–is effectively dead) and the transfers-sinecure keeps the military going. That is the core of the current Egyptian problems in the nutshell. Islamists have their own streams of revenue, though nowhere near that size. Transfers stop=Egypt’s going into a c

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:32am

      Tail chewed off….

      Egypt gong into a crapper.

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    • tzion
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:42am

      There not reporting on it because this isn’t new. This group has been there for the past 60 years and hasn’t changed in all that time. A few years ago, a Gay Pride Parade stupidly wanted to provoke this group by parading through their neighborhood.

      This group is so radical that they don’t even support the idea of a Jewish state, believing that no Jewish state should exist until the Messianic era. If you walk into their neighborhood wearing less than modest clothing you liable to stoning. This is the same group that cursed Rabin (the one who was later assassinated).

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    • Favored93
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 9:38am

      Ok why is this so hard for people to understand?
      The Christians in America have our snake dancing lunatics and those that preach that men are to “dominate” their women. Those that do those things DO NOT represent who Christ is or who the church is… just as these “Jews” do not represent the whole of the Jewish faith.
      The Jews are our brothers. ALL of our Biblical heroes are Jews. Jesus is a Jew. The nation of Israel is just that… a nation not a religion. Our stand with Israel is a stand for what is right and good in the ME. Israel is “America” in the ME.
      Get it? Understand a little bit as to what is going on there and why we “STAND WITH ISRAEL”?

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:18am

      “““ i stand with Israel ” …care to explain why?”

      People have their own reasons. For me it can be summarized by the following two.
      1. Israel represents the only beach head of western civilization in ME.
      2. Israel is a canary in a coal mine. If Israel falls, we are not far behind.”

      Pretty much this, although I‘d argue it’s incomplete.
      2. Should be expanded to say “Israel will not fall without taking out all of their enemies through nuclear strikes.”
      3. Most Americans who say “I stand with Israel” do so for religious reasons; either a sense that the formation of Israel heralds the end times, or from some belief that we need to care for the Jews as brothers under God.

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    • josh345
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Visit Israel before you call it a backwards country. People there are friendly and smart, and Israel is a prospering, modern, Western, country. It is a beautiful place.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:36pm

      FS – long term plan “conspiracy to corrupt”*, to undermine all western nations traditional institutions and ways of life and all the usual traditional, moral, ethical and self control that usually supports and maintains a healthy balanced society. Now rotted by the pandering to the basest in humanity via government, media, and NGOs.

      * The Frankfurt School A gang of Academics , Marxists, Psychologists whose plan to “make the west so corrupt that it would stink” carries on throughout the west today

      To further the advance of their “quiet” cultural revolution – but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future – the School recommended (among other things):

      1. The creation of perceptual racism offences
      2. Continual change to create confusion
      3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
      4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
      5. Huge immigration to destroy identity
      6. The promotion of excessive drinking
      7. Emptying of churches
      8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
      9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
      10. Control and dumbing down of media
      11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family through feminism

      One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ – the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:37pm

      • attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
      • abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
      • abolish all forms of male dominance – increase the presence of women in the armed forces
      • declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’
      Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.’

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:44pm

      Locke, IOW, you need to not only take into a consideration the watered-down definition for common consumption, but consider the actual goals that have been stipulated past the mid-60′s version of feminism (Stage 1. Financial Equality) and are the subject of “women studies” all over. You can find the material that confirms what I am saying if you so desire. Or you can choose to be blind to it. It’s your pick.

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    • NYCRight
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 5:46pm

      We are not spending 100s of billions on Israel. And these are a few thousand members of one house (Brisker)/Edah HaChareidis of Ultra-Orthodox Jews. In fact, these are anti-Zionist Haredim.

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  • deereeves
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:42am

    Is this commom or something like our occupy whatever movement? Do many of you live under this rule there? I hear little about this.We need to know.

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    • josh345
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:00pm

      this is common only in parts of Jerusalem and many West Bank settlements. The rest of Israel is like America in most ways.

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  • beverlee
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:21am

    I don’t understand. Everyone here was livid about the Jewish boys who had eggs thrown at them, yet no one seems angry about a girl being spit on. Please explain.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 3:04am

      I am Jewish but full disclosure I am a a follwer of Christ as well. This behavior is rare and absolutely disgusting. Any person that can read even their Torah and behave this way is nuts. every non Christian jewish friend and jewish family member I have would never not in a million years act this way or condone this behavior. This is contrary to biblical principles laid out by God in the Old Testament. In the book of numbers when they were dividing up the promised land to the tribes of Israel, there was a group of women who’s father had passed away and who under current pagan society and culture of the time wouldnt have been able to inherit their fathers land or money. Was the way of the middle east and still very much today. the culture gave no money or land to women which was not what God had intended. God intervened on behalf of these women and gave them their fathers land and fortune with one condition, they marry within their tribe so another tribe wouldn’t marry them to take their name over their land and money. God was the first original “feminist” in the sense he created both men and women and radically for his day gave women the “right” to be priest holders land owners heiresses etc. One expamle of this story of the land would be the book of numbers. These misguided Jews apparently skipped giant portions of scripture when they concluded this is a behavior God would want. This is the very attitude he credited to other nations, not his own people. Very sad

       
    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 8:51am

      “God was the first original “feminist” in the sense he created both men and women and radically for his day gave women the “right” to be priest holders land owners heiresses etc.”

      Stuff it. Apparently progressives brainwashed you well. You’ve go no idea what feminism is and equating equal rights with feminism is a pure tripe. Feminism is not about equality, it’s about privilege.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 9:54am

      @HorseCrazy
      I can’t tell you just how happy I am that you are out there. I had the opportunity a while ago to visit a Messianic congregation and it absolutely wrecked my life (in a good way)!
      It is AMAZING to see a Jew find Yeshua (Jesus)! They have been waiting for THOUSANDS of years for him to show up and when they see Him it is the most POWERFUL thing I have EVER seen!!!
      In my experience a Messianic Jew has an amazing grasp on biblical truth. Your prospective on this issue is spot on.
      LOL I guess I said all that to say … glad you are posting on this web site. :)

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    • Favored93
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:11am

      @Twobyfour
      Your post there was as ignorant as I have seen here.
      It is obvious what Horse Crazy was saying when he/she used the term “feminist”.
      His/her post on this issue was spot on. He/she was simply explaining to people what God’s treatment of women truly looks like.
      The OT is FULL of women that made the men around them look sheepish and timid and thus demonstrated that these “Jews” have OBVIOUSLY ignored large portions of scripture. They have disqualified their message and made themselves look like fools.
      Read the story in Numbers and then hop over to the book of Esther. Both stories are well worth the time and a small sample of women in the bible that have done great things.
      Rahab was a prostitute and yet she is in the genealogy of Jesus! Read the book of Joshua and find out why.
      Next time do a little bit of thinking before you post.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:33am

      No. It’s your ignorance that shows. HorseCrazy shouldn’t use the term feminist. It actually does a disservice to what HorseCrazy is trying to convey and to which I have no objections.

      My beef is solely with the feminist moniker used inappropriately. I stand by what I said. Feminism is not about equality. It is about privilege. I don’t have time to go into depth explaining why it is so. You’d have to take a rain check.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:42am

      Just a little post-post quip.

      Words have meaning. In our times, the meanings have been shifted and subjected to relativist deconstruction, This is in order to create “trojan horses”, a method successfully employed by the PC paradigm and ideological considerations. Thus, the term “feminist” acquires a benign coating, while it in reality espouses a radical ideology. By inappropriate use/context, one may create an impression that feminism is okay, while in reality it is a corrosive and destructive ideological tool.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:21am

      @Twobyfour
      “Stuff it. Apparently progressives brainwashed you well. You’ve go no idea what feminism is and equating equal rights with feminism is a pure tripe. Feminism is not about equality, it’s about privilege.”

      Oh, I know this trick! It‘s when you don’t like the common definition of a term, so you make up your own and insist you’re right, thus completely spinning the conversation off-basis but maintaining your high-horse self-righteousness.

      Nice try. Glad I could point out the obvious for you before you got too proud of yourself :-)

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:59am

      @Horsecrazy, I’m not sure how Jewish your upbringing was if you now claim to be Christian. You are entitled to your beliefs, of course, but I never met a Jew who wanted to convert to Christianity. However, I have known of several families where their children went from Reform Judaism to Orthodoxy and Ultra-Orthodoxy.

      @Favored93, Sorry but Messianic “Jews” are really just a sect of Protestant Christianity. Only about 25% of any Messianic congregation is even ethnically Jewish. I’m glad that your new faith has made you happy, but Jews don’t consider it Judaism; it’s Fundamentalist Christianity with some Hebrew vocabulary.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:32pm

      Locked, no. The “common definition” is watered down version for general consumption. You have to look at it not only from that angle, but compare definitions put forth in early 60′s with these that are prevalent in “women studies”, and also consider how it actually manifests.

      Needless to say that both common and the actual definition were contributed to by Frankfurt School. That should raise a red flag for you.

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  • Noahide Ron
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:58am

    Apparently Channel 2 aired a story critical of the Haredi on Friday.
    Is it possible the residents considered the presence of the second Channel 2 crew on Sunday to be a provocation? I believe it may have been the same reporter from Friday.

    As an aside, a journalist claimed they are “under fierce attack” by the Israeli PM:
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/227844
    Seems like a pattern in the media reporting. I can’t help but wonder if the media in Israel is any different than the media in the U.S.

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  • qzak491
    Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:30am

    This article tells what they did but not why. I’m not Jewish so I have no idea why they would do this.

    It almost sonds like they treat women the same way the Arabs do, why?????

    I am a man and I can’t understand why anyone would want to treat women or anyone like this, why do you think you are better than they are.

    I think you better read Proverbs 31 (A virtuous woman) especially V30, and just wish you could live up these things. I don’t know who you think you are but pride got Satan kicked out of Heaven, beware.

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    • deereeves
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:38am

      This is what feeds hate.

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    • josh345
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 11:56am

      THIS IS NOT ORDINARY JEWISH BEHAVIOR!!!!!!! These people have decided that for women to dress “modestly” is to cover up everything, which is not the case!

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    • COFemale
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:26pm

      When men want to cover a woman from head to toe indicates a weakness in them, not the women. They feel if they can hide temptation, it will make them the better man for not lusting after the women. By no means am I suggesting it is okay for women to dress like harlots or walk around in a bikini when no body of water is around, but men must recognize their own weaknesses first and learn to combat the temptations put before them.

      I mean look at Muslim men, they expect their women to be virtuous otherwise expect stoning, yet these same men have no problem looking at porn, sleeping with hookers, going to strip joints, and having more than one wife? If anyone lacks honor it is these types of men. Their weakness, their dishonor, but they thrust their guilt upon their wives, daughters, girlfriends or other female family members.

      SO NOW TELL ME WHO IS THE WEAKER SEX?

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  • shagstar
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:49pm

    evidently,,in order to be recognized and/or acknowledged on this screwed-up planet, everyone has to be mad, or hate something/someone just to be popular!

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:56pm

      Actually the planet is pretty cool, just too many people. And you know how people get.

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  • waggie
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:44pm

    I stand with ISRAEL! Shalom!

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Nice sideburns!

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    • M1A2_Tanker
      Posted on December 27, 2011 at 2:35am

      Waggie, I served at Ft.Hood with a young Jewish man from my home state of Colorado With the last name Waggie, Related by chance?

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  • Noahide Ron
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:29pm

    Happy Chanukah!

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:35pm

      Whose side are we on?

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    • Noahide Ron
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:36pm

      Btw I noticed in the JPost article there were 3 paragraphs related to the haredim surrounding the TV crew and 9 paragraphs about the man spitting on the woman.
      I ain‘t sayin’….just sayin’.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:59am

      JZS, I am almost sure that there is not a dead Jew you didn’t like (for the virtue of being dead)–e.g. as long as Jews are victims, you’d generate crocodile tears and feel tremendously compassionate within yourself.

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    • jzs
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:05pm

      TWOBYFOUR, do you know the meaning of the phrase “non sequitur”?

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  • katy
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:27pm

    Humm. Sounds like the same thing Jesus had to deal with….

    Hyper pius zealots

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  • Detroit paperboy
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:21pm

    I am a believer in God and a creator, i dont know what form he takes, but neither does the Pope, i will never belong to a certain religion, cuz they are controlling cults, God can listen to you pray from the driver seat of your truck, just as he can from a sixty million dollar cathedral… I do not begrrudge anyone for belonging to a religion, it just seem to be about power and money and control to me, Merry Christmas to all!!!!

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  • ZengaPA65
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:12pm

    The only Jews Beck and the Blaze like are Zionists.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:35pm

      WWJD?

      What Would Jews Do?

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:00am

      Bah Humbug!

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:56am

      Bad Ham Bug indeed.

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 10:54am

      Zenga, any idea what Zionism means?

      Very simply, it is an idea that Jews have a right to live peacefully in their own homeland. That’s it. There is no dark conspiracy or undertones to take over the world. Note that the “Jews” that display the tendencies for power acquisition are usually self-hating, anti-Zionist ones. Like Soros. In fact, they tend to think that Zionism stands in their whichever-way. It narrows the playing field for them.

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    • ZengaPA65
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:52pm

      Would that be the same people who took all the Sefardi boys chopped off their peyot then forced them to work on a kibbutz on Shabbos?

      It‘s YOU that doesn’t know what a Zionist is.

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  • BornJewishMuslimByFaith
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:45pm

    I’m Jewish born and have met other Jews like this. Yes, they can go a little crazy; it’s after drinking the kosher beer that gets them rowdy like this. Just kidding. But some people do not like the media.

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:55pm

      It is too bad. It is sad to see this.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:58pm

      Muslim by faith. No you are not kidding. People on this site are not stupid you POS

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    • BornJewishMuslimByFaith
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:08pm

      Why would you call me a “POS” Dealer? I never called anyone “stupid” before on this site. I always have been respectful.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 11:15pm

      You have to fogive Dealer, he didn’t get his Trailor Trash Barbie and is very upset right now.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:28am

      What gets muslims in a rowdy blow em up kinda mood? A woman showing a little too much ankle?

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    • josh345
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 12:03pm

      I am Jewish. I am sad that someone like you has left the Jewish community, as I am for everyone who has left Judaism. However, as long as you are not part of any radical muslim group (Hamas, Fatah, Hizballah, etc) then I have no conflict with you. Could you explain why you converted?

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    • Twobyfour
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:08pm

      josh345, I think he made it up from the whole cloth.

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    • BornJewishMuslimByFaith
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 2:33pm

      Josh: I never lived in a Jewish community. So, I was always an individual. I met some nice Muslims and became close. I decided Islam will be the best choice for me in my life.

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  • macpappy
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:36pm

    Religion, isn’t it beautiful?

    Report Post » macpappy  
    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Mine is!!

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:51pm

      Is it kinda like the Baptist vs the Methodist OR the Presbyterians against the Mormans. Or what about those Pentecostols

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  • wifezilla
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:34pm

    This is why women should never let men tell them how to dress.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Amen and Amen

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on December 26, 2011 at 1:15am

      Just keep them barefoot, pregnant & in the kitchen
      (just kidding ladies) I like the Condoleezza Rice type ….

      Report Post » RepubliCorp  
  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on December 25, 2011 at 10:32pm

    They have learned from the Islamist in that region that spitting on someone is a show of respect, especially if its a woman. As for the modest dress, they just don’t like it when men wear the flashy miniskirst with a tube top, come on, the men should be wearing a lowcut burka with pearls and sensiable high heels. Also it was reported that there were too many people wearing white after labor day, a complete faux pas.

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