It Begins: France‘s Socialist Gov’t Goes After the ‘Well-Off’
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PARIS (AP/The Blaze) — France’s Socialist government wants to raise €7.2 billion ($9 billion) in new revenue from higher taxes on estates, banks, and oil companies to try to reduce the deficit.
(Related: French Prez Candidate Doubles Down on Proposed 75 Percent Income Tax on Wealthy: ‘Patriotic’)
The measures are among those in a revised 2012 budget draft presented at a Cabinet meeting Wednesday. It will go to parliament later this month, where it is expected to win approval.
Socialist French President François Hollande (Photo AFP/Jeff Pachoud)
France’s new leadership has criticized austerity measures imposed around Europe, saying they are making the region’s debt crisis worse. It has focused on higher taxes for the “well-off,” though some spending cuts are also expected.
Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault, speaking at a Fourth of July event at the U.S. Embassy, warned that Europe’s debt crisis “has not been extinguished” and that it’s not a “problem of the Europeans alone.”
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Git-R-Done
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:01pmThey’re making the same mistakes that the former Soviet Union made.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:00amExactly who did the Russians have to tax. The only rich people in Russia before the demise of the Soviet Block were black market mafia members and government officials.
I personally will find it amusing standing in line to get toilet paper and a loaf of bread. I’ll be the one holding the sign, “I told you so.”
The elitist who wish to rule us will give us only what we will need for survival. They don’t like the fact that we are glutonous and live with excesses in a very comfortable world.
So comfortable that peope with entitlements have cell phones and big screen televisions.
It’s difficult to convince these people, they would be better off in an economy that would require them to work 40 hours a week for the same status. Afterall they have all that extra time to sale illegal drugs and guns to make more money they don’t claim for Uncle Sam. Least we forget the all the other illegal endeavors they participate in to subsidize their life of leisure.
The die has been cast. The progressive socialist have dumbed down the last generation, over run our country with people who believe the American dream starts with entitlements. They have subjegated the MSM and turned it into the propaganda machine of the new socialist regime.
We have but one chance to stop the destruction of our Republic. It begins in November and it is a battle that we will have to wage for eternity.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:09am@REBELPATRIOT: Very insightful statement. Thanks for that!
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:25amF### France and its people.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 1:59amThe_Jerk
Report Post »While I agree with the sentiment; this is the same thing obama wants.
PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 2:04amWHAT DOPES! Instead of focusing on what CREATES wealth, these do-do heads are heading like lemmings off the cliff. INSTEAD of figuring out ways to consolidate information and record keeping, maintenance and government ‘duties’, these fools are plowing ahead, aimlessly destroying everything
in their path. When there is NO MORE MONEY, WTH are they going to do then?
I can understand 21 year old‘s being this naive and not understanding what we’re here on earth to learn, but these guys nearing 60? Really? They are like undisciplined drunks — before they are done they‘ll have Sharia Law in their court rooms because they can’t control those animals, they’ll have graffiti on the Louvre…they’ll have sold off their treasurers, ruined Tourism, Probably put a neon sign on the Eiffel Tower….instead of making the gov. stop spending!!! instead of making people cut back their ‘retirement’…damn union bosses have warped the world…just so a few bosses could get rich. The Union rank and file all over the world need to throw these thug creeps out … they have allowed a few thugs to take their money; make deals impossible to sustain (as a gov. worker in CA)…self-centered greed. Catching up with all of them. 90% of your salary and retire at 50?? Yeah, right…that‘s ’fair’ NOT!!! Well, I hope those of us who see this are able to protect what we have and ride it out. It has to be ROMNEY/RUBIO in 2012!!!!
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 8:54am.
Report Post »“France’s Socialist government wants to raise €7.2 billion ($9 billion) in new revenue from higher taxes on estates, banks, and oil companies to try to reduce the deficit.”
So why not double the tax rate increase and get $18 billion?
Here’s my prediction: Not one dollar (Euro) will be used to reduce the deficit.
Almost nothing will be raised, because the money will flee France.
France will find themselves without wealth, and with even more spending programs.
I hope they put these programs in place NOW so we can all see their success.
Hello, Obama?
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 10:25amStupid socialists just don’t get it, one day they will run out of everyone else’s money. Until then, they just keep spending like there’s no tomorrow. It will eventually fail, so here’s a basic economics lesson for you socialist dolts:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOKcdOI25ig
turkey13
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 10:45am“Nothing is easier than spending public money. It does not appear to belong to anybody. The temptation is overwheling to bestow it on somebody.” – Calvin Cooleage
I think they should go for 90% and we might get some of those companys and banks to move over here. The rich and trust’s got that money from someone else.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:35pmIf we have ANY sense as a nation we will elect Romney, and invite wealthy Europeans to immigrate with their companies to the US, giving them a clear financial choice. Skim the cream and let the rest fight amongst them selves as to who gets the last free vacation or pension or crust of bread.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on July 15, 2012 at 7:44pmYou know Clooney and his Hollyweird buddies are watching this because they are next. Obama is gonna git ya George.
Report Post »Micmac
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:32pmThe following will be simplistic, but points one in the right direction for clarity.
“Austerity” is being thrown out there as either good or bad, depending on your beliefs, but there is no austerity going on.
Europe is in trouble. They are starting to rotate (Greece, Spain now, and Italy recently having to buy bad paper) thru the PIIGS nations. The ECB has only certain deep pockets. Germany’s (the strongest financially solvent nation in the EU) populus is starting to uprise against all the bailouts they are supporting. Merkel can do only so much. France’s election is a statement against supporting all the bailouts. One reason they the voted in Hollande, a full commie.
The problems with the EU nations are just being pushed down the road and there is nothing going on to correct the direction of collapse. Greece’s newly elected government will not last. All they want is more money from the EU and have already defaulted on the monies they have received. The EU is trying to do everything they can to hold it together, but their bottom line is one Europe, controlled fiscally by the EU. This was the original intent when the Euro was introduced. A “Federal” Europe. EU Controlled banks seem to be what is in play currently.
But it will be interesting to see if Greece is forced out soon. There are dominos in play, and if the USA stays away fron them we should weather the storm, but not without some damage at home.
NoBama 2012
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:05pmVery insightful. Because the collapse isn’t fast like a sinking ship or in 90 mins like in a movie many people think things are doing just fine.
Report Post »layosh
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:06pmOne may look at the issue of debth in a bit different way as well.
Report Post »There is so much mony in the debth pile, that regardless how much an entire nation makes, cannot pay it off. Period.
Now you can toss your nation into powerty, or realize that this money that a nation owes, is the creation of the central banks. It does not exists as realy value. What it actually is may suprize you:
it represents the way a society is organized, the economical relationships, and the wealth distribution.
The more debth one nation has, the more it is exposed to the Central Banks, which generate and distribute this money with the help of the political elite. Do not forget, there is always a balance sheet. Te debth on your side is welth ready for investment and purchasing power on the other side. This creates a kind of slavery, but it has power over a nation untill it respects the rules of the game: some have the power to create money and force a Nation to accept that money.
If you decided not to play the game, the debth can be wiped out. Puff, it goes away.
maybe the French will try this route. For that, getting a truckload of new debth is a good thing. The may win some time to prepare for the next phase, in whichthe debth will be wiped out by a stroke of pen, or by a short hyperinflation followed by creating new banks that hold the new money, issued by the state, not by the central banks…
however, if the debth game contiinues, the French will become slaves. Period.
Yankeethinker
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:32pmIronic that the EU’s problems mimic the Federal Reserve… printing money out of whole cloth. Take a good look at Europe, Folks… coming to a bank near you…
Report Post »D-Fence
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 10:04amThe problem is the IMF and if we will contribute to the stupidity.
Report Post »socialism.rocks
Posted on July 6, 2012 at 1:54ammicmac you have no ideal who owns all the otcs euro debt euro bonds
Can i say bank of america jp morgan goldman sachs
if the euro fails it will not alone destroy the euro but also the dollar…. its in the trillions of debt held by american not to big to fail banks and hedge funds…. its going to be quiet amusing if they default and say get bent you capitalists—capitalism is destroying itself
Report Post »Git-R-Done
Posted on July 12, 2012 at 10:11pmSocialismsucks – You idiots said the same thing during the days of Karl Marx and the Bolshevik revolution in 1917.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:24pmBrings to mind that old saying, “French Military Victory”.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:49pmHey MONK, Good point, but you forgot to leave a blank space at the end of the phrase. France, the only nation in the history of the world to have been conquered by Italy…..twice!
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:50pmHi RJJ,
LOL !
Report Post »yubba
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:53pmI got a french military rifle never fire but has been dropped twice.
Report Post »rickc34
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:57pmYep The only good Frenchmen is a dead one. Saved their behinds to many times, let the stand on their own or fall on their own.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:18pmA WWII vetern decided to visit France and Normandy once more before he died. When landing in Paris, a snotty agent asks for his Passport. The vet looks at him and says “I didn’t need on the last time I was here“ The agent says ”That is impossible, we always demand proof of citizenship. When was the last time you came here?”
The vet looks at him and says, “June 6, 1944, I landed at Omaha Beach, and no one asked for a passport.”
Happy 4th everyone.
Report Post »mecbb55
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 11:17amGreat story. So moving and poignant. By that logic any US serviceman/woman should be able to travel freely to any country in which they were deployed. Terrific logic.
Report Post »321481
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:19pmFrance wants to be free to make their own mistakes, and this is another one of them, but when it comes to paying for their mistake Obama will help subsidize their bail out. It reminds me of WWII, we saved their sorry … they told us they were not going to pay us back the money they owed us from the war. France is … France, a friend you wish you didn’t have.
Report Post »junglemom9
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:40pmPer my husband a Naturalized US citizen from France. DeGaul paid back the money which caused issues in France and is the reason there is NO US base there. However, I agree France has its own issues and just glad we aren’t there.
Report Post »dublinthewagons
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 7:44amI had rather have two German divisions in front of me, than one Frenchman behind me.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:01pmSo, once again a socialist state will attempt to tax it’s way to prosperity. Although it’s never ever happened in the history of the planet, the libs will destroy everything in their path to do this again and again.
Report Post »Dirtdigger67
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:43pmThis is disgusting not from the point of France but that USA has a lot of these same freaks
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:37pmI want every aspiring Socialist regardless of age, to watch and see what happens when you try to enact Socialism unto the people. You‘ll soon see exactly why it’s said: You soon run out of other people’s money.
France, by this time next year, will be in chaos.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:48pmWe have the opposite problem here, the rich are running out of middle class money to mooch.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:03pmWell, they should be somewhat used to it after Jacques Chirac.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:05pmQUARANDO, You’ve got a point, damn those people like Soros, Buffett, Bill Gates, etc, etc.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:25pmI am not a Democrat, I don’t care about the “liberal wealthy”. We don’t need to “damn them”, they are human beings and out to be treated decently, but the rich as a class are not on the side of the middle class.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 2:18am@ QUARANDO….really?? Money to MOOCH? You mean like BIll GATES who started Microsoft and created zillions of jobs and became one of the richest men on earth in less than 20 years (from his garage?)
Report Post »What you kooks don’t get is that there is NO CLASS system in America. It’s only: WHO WORKS? WHO TAKES RISKS? OUR poor don’t stay poor…unlike European and other Socialist countries. OUR poor can be our RICH in 20 years of less if they apply themselves. The POOR of today will not be the POOR of tomorrow…that‘s because we’re in AMERICA!!! MOOCH? You mean provide products that people need/want to buy? Figure out a new way of doing things that catches on? Becomes a great basketball/football player? MOOCH? Grow up dude…you think like a loser.
ONLY in AMERICA can an OPRAH WINFREY grow up in a dirt farmer’s shack, get molested, be a Minority and become about the richest woman in the country, employing 100′s…she made a mistake in 2008 big time and it just about cost her all her following….but she still came from sharecropper beginning…so get THE H OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR MOOCHING… go whimper somewhere else…
tharpdevenport
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 2:54amThey won’t run out of money necessarily by next year. They’ll juggle, fix the numbers, do what they can to starve the inevitable off or fake the results. It’ll be like when the Socialists won and replaced Chruchill. They had to learn the hard way then, too. In fact, so did Germany, which was taken proclaimed, litterally by shouting out a window, to suddenly be Socialist, and subsequently became Nazi Germany (with Nazi being the Nationalsozialist, the older equivelant of today‘s liberal worker’s unions, in a way).
And of course, a dictator, Socialist, what ever despotic “-ist”, that take over, end up killing off many of the people who supported them to power. Same thing will happen here, same destruction of the country, only on the biggest, most horrifically disgusting scale not previously seen — the kind that takes the rest of the world with it.
Report Post »Steelheadisadouche
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 8:27amQuarandoodle
Report Post »What? Live “free”, earn your forturne, and hand it over to the mooches of a regime to pay for it’s excesses? France needs you now more than ever. We can get you on a subsidized freighter, there by 2014 if the Somali’s are real stoned.
paperpushermj
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:35pmI want a front row seat so I can watch what happens when Theory runs into Reality.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:52pmI just came back from France. In many ways the “socialist” policies they have there have led to a much more robust and free middle class. Their infrastructure is also a couple decades ahead of ours now with much more advanced internet and high speed trains taking you anywhere you want to go. After visiting “socialist” western Europe it is hard to understand why anybody would want to leave there anymore to come here.
Of course Americans are sheep and they will believe whatever the corporate media tells them about Europe.
Report Post »Just_Us
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:21pmquarando -If Europe is all that awesome, by all means, go live there and don’t let the door hit ya.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:27pmQUAR
Dull obedience can at times create wonderful things with other people money; if the frenchies want it they can have it.
Sounds like you went to Paris, why not get out to rural France if you find the same utopia let me know.
Report Post »Disgusted_in_CT
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:32pmHey quarando
I just came back from France. In many ways the “socialist” policies they have there have led to a much more robust and free middle class. Their infrastructure is also a couple decades ahead of ours now with much more advanced internet and high speed trains taking you anywhere you want to go. After visiting “socialist” western Europe it is hard to understand why anybody would want to leave there anymore to come here.
Of course Americans are sheep and they will believe whatever the corporate media tells them about Europe.
—–
One question, if it is so great there why didn’t you stay?
You can give up your citizenship in the U.S. and move there.
Oh wait, could it be your forgetting to mention the lack of liberty there.
Report Post »The freedoms we have are not present.
That is why people want to come here to America.
They know they can work hard and achieve success -(whatever they want to do).
So take your liberal views and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine.
I will be glad to help in doing this because I am tired of people like you.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:35pmRLTW, That is a good way to meet the real French people. I used to bike the back roads and rural areas there, Belgium, Germany, and Holland. Got some great food and drinks that way as well. But, unlike QUARANDO who either took a short vacation or business trip there making him an instant expert, I spent almost 9 years over there. They definitely have their financial problems just as we do. Everybody should have listened to Maggie Thatcher and heeded her advice.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:14pmRJJINGADSDEN
Correct on all, people like Quark view the world threw the peephole of their Hotel suite. I to lived in and traveled many parts of Europe, my ex-wife is Greek so the mess there is no surprise based on what I viewed during my time there.
One of the best times ever was spending the 50th anniversary of D-Day in coastal France, great people, wine and bread, but a poncho liner on the beach in June is not enough.
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:19pm@quarando, wait till the Euros run out of money. They all seem to feel that if someone is richer (Germany) they are entitled to take it. Nice to retire early with all kinds of benefits so long as the “well off” are funding it. How bad will it be when the money is gone and the “well off” are gone as well? The self-entitled Euros will riot and die in the streets.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:23pmActually I traveled extensively around France, not just to Paris. The standard of living there is really not bad. Probably better for the average working person. It is true they lack some of the Freedoms we have, they don’t seem to understand freedom of speech for example. It certainly isn’t a utopia, but historically the US standard of living has been far ahead of Europe‘s and that isn’t true anymore.
I don‘t understand the people asking me why I don’t go live there, France is not my home America is, and I want the best for it. One could ask you the same thing, if you don‘t like the direction America is taking why don’t you leave? Don’t like Obamacare, get out of the country. It is a crap argument. This is my country and I am telling you honestly what I saw there. Instead of dismissing what I am telling you and insulting me, what don’t you try to really find out how people live there. It isn’t a freedom hating hell hole the media tells you it is.
Report Post »Ben__Franklin
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:27pmQuarando, Why did you come back?
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:45pmQuarando
You can be forgiven for believing we Americans should give up a few freedoms for a fast train and mediocre healthcare.
just wake up
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 10:58pm@Quarango, “they don’t seem to understand freedom of speech…”
Report Post »Oh, that’s all. No biggie. Who needs to talk anyway?
paperpushermj
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:04pm@QUARANDO.
Report Post »Your ..just back.. from France must have been in 2010 because the La Dolce Vita description of Life in France is hard to believe.
What you claim in fact is a population that likes the Government that tells them “Keep your stuff, others will pay and and everything will be fine. that’s what Socialist Governments do, that being buying peace and a tranquility with the population by spending money on the people.
The French have done something quintessential French:
They are on a party barge inches from going over a waterfall and what is their response to the roar of the future… They tell the Orchestra to play louder.
paperpushermj
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 11:35pm” what don’t you try to really find out how people live there. It isn’t a freedom hating hell hole the media tells you it is”
Report Post »_______________
I hear you…Thanks for the feedback.
kaydeebeau
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:40pm@ Quarando – it hasn’t been paid for yet – so I suppose in your household you just keep maxing out your credit cards and don’t pay the bill each month. You have lots of great stuff. Eventually it catches up with you and not only do you lose all the stuff you bought on credit but you then are bankrupt and unable to get out of the hole to ever have stuff again.
You really can’t be that mathematically challenged or are you related Mary Beth Elizabeth – or are you really Mary Beth?
Report Post »ricckky
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:28pmWhy don’t these commies just tax 100% and get it over with. Drive all businesses out of the country to Texas. We just gave a major tax break to to an automobile Comp. to relocate in Texas. 40000 new jobs and all the great benefits that come with this type initiative. That’s why Texas is doing so well. France will be a ghost of a country in a decade if they keep this type of insanity ongoing!!!!
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:55pmActually Texas is middle of the road for job creation. It isn’t doing particularly well. It is doing poorly for education, pollution, and employee safety. I don’t think Texas is a model anybody should be following if you want a decent future.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:08pmQUARANDO, Alright, tell us just what state would be a good model. I’ve got to see this.
Report Post »Just_Us
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:23pmWrong quarando, while Obama does his best to destroy the economy, Texas created half of all jobs in the US during this current recession.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:30pmI am not wrong, Texas indeed created half the jobs in the country, but the unemployment rate still rose dramatically. Looking at raw number of jobs created tells you nothing. Texas is a very large state so of course it is going to create a lot of jobs in raw terms. The question is, is it creating enough jobs to keep up with the demand for jobs. If you look at it that way, Texas is ranked like 24th. Not too well.
There isn’t a single state that should be used as a model. Different states have different good ideas. For example, take a look at North Dakota. The created a state bank that gives out good loans to small business when private credit freezes up or becomes too costly. This has really worked well for them and probably would work well in other states as well.
Report Post »Steelheadisadouche
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 8:32amKorandoodoo
Report Post »Did you factor in all the rocketry doctors that emigrated from NewOrleans and the big pharma guys that had to compete with the bigger pharma guys already in Houston or Dallas? Run some numbers, read rules for radicals again, and visit our southern border where most of the big pharma guys get their samples and hardware. We should emply 250k fat IRS agents at the border to tax on the spot.
hi
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:28pmI bet they spend the money collected. It will not go toward the debt.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:43pmThats a suckers bet. We all know the money they think will flow into the Coffers is already spent.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:15pmSo to the rich in France.. How do you like the bozo you voted in now!! Stupid freaks are gonna bankrupt their country!! This is what Obama wants to do.. America for craps sake wake up!
Report Post »Paul -Indiana
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:11pmKeep remembering that Obama was elected by only 30% of registered voters. There was a 58% turnout and of the people who actually voted, 52% voted for Obama. Multiply 0.58 and 0.52 and you get 0.30. Just 30% of registered voters saddled us with Obama. Forget about the polls and just vote. He has not gained followers.
Report Post »SituationalGravity
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:13pmGod Created a Universe where a balanced budget is the highest form of virtue. The governments of the world are spendaholics; this has been true since Adam met Eve. The American Experiment was the first real departure from Centralized overspending. But America is returning to the glory days of Joesph and Pharaoh.
“We will gladly become serfs of the Pharaoh in exchange for his Security.” All they had to do was surrender their Private Property.
The King is a sickness. He tries to behave but is a slave to his desires. In the end his addictions require all your property.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:58pmA balanced budget is the highest virtue? That is exactly how a materialist thinks. You must not be a Christian.
Report Post »Just_Us
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:24pmAnd you quarando, you must be a pedophile…
Report Post »SituationalGravity
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:40pm…by the way Q; did you recognize my Biblical reference to the Book of Genesis and my belief that God made the Universe?
What you probably didn’t hear was a strict orthodoxy to Church Doctrine. Do you believe in God or Church?
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:42pmThanks for making my point, spoken like a true Christian.
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:43pmYou can quote the bible all you want, the ideas you are putting forward are a clear rejection of the core teachings of Christ.
Report Post »Steelheadisadouche
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 10:19amQuaran do?
Report Post »You are one of the morons that knows exactly how to fish, you just don’t want to. Starve faster.
berycuda71
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:02pmand these morons are taught bt who?
Report Post »christos
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:02pmN.W.O. loser setting the stage for the ant +CHRIST+ what big props/horns they have,,,,the anti +CHRIST+ will be 110 times worse than Antiocus Epiphanies,the anti +CHRIST+ will not be ushered in on a platform of hate but one of “Human Secularism” choose +JESUS CHRIST+ today.
Report Post »christos
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:10pmEdit : N.W.O. loser setting the stage for the (anti) +CHRIST+
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:58pmIts’ not the beginning; its the beginning of the end now, how much longer will the EU and thus the US surivive before the complete collapse will commense around the world? Somehow with Obama in office and his rule all or destory all mindset; if he sees his fall coming before Nov, and assuming he has not started WW3, I can all too easily see him declaring the US insolvent and not bound to pay the national debt and enjoy the complete downfall of the nation.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:20pmJust remember before Europe began to go down the tubes, Obummer was always saying that the US had to be more like Europe, especially France. Not only the wealthy, but all taxpayers should be watching closely and paying attention to the meaning behind the words, “fair share.”
Report Post »OT–a bit, but a close parallel. While many were focused on the Supreme Court and the kabuki theater that is Washington, there were a few little things going on that seem innocent, but when you add them together, you ask really. First, Moneyprinter-in-Chief Bernanke announced that our largest creditor, China, would be given priority access to purchase treasury bonds, but would still have to inform the govt when they wanted to sell. Second, Lil Timmy Geithner authorized the Bank of China aka the Chinese government to purchase a small bank in the country. Third, Lennar Homes and the Treasure Island(former Navy Base in SF Bay) Redevelopment Authority(where Pelousy’s son and son-in-law work) are negotiating with the Bank of China for a loan for the redevelopment.
OlefromMN
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:51pmI wonder if Hollywood and those in the “elite” MSM are paying attention? Coming soon to a nation near you!
Report Post »clockwatcher
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:50pmWelcome to oboma world. Vote this black fool out in 135 days.
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 7:02pmHe’s a mulatto… he’s half white
Report Post »endthemindlessspending
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:49pmOh, please America come and save us we are up sh*ts creek without a paddle again. I can hear them saying it already. Thanks for the help in the Revolutionary War, but its time you grow a sac and stop voting for pinheads.
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:48pmso new tax on space aliens landing in frog land. surely he does not meen quebic needs to send more money. just everybody because there french and better then the rest of the world
Report Post »intercepter
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:44pmthe odds of running out of rich people is greater then running out of debt
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:07pmThey rich are not on our side. They do not want to “create jobs”, they want to make money. And regardless of the propaganda being pumped out by the corporate media, the rich making money often doesn’t equate with Americans getting good jobs. The rich are shipping our jobs overseas or cutting our wages and benefits to be competitive with prison labor in China. They are gutting the regulatory aparatus that prevents them from dumping lead into our air and toxic chemicals into our water. In China, the baby formula is toxic. Everybody there knows that they are feeding chemicals to their babies when they feed them. They hillsides are covered with industrial waster leading to very high levels of cancer. That is what the rich want to bring to America. Any moral person CANNOT allow this!
Stop defending our slave masters and start standing up for the middle class.
Report Post »Just_Us
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 8:27pmquarando, the government does not create jobs, they spend tax collections on salaries. It is wealth redistribution, NOT wealth creation. The only rich people who are anti jobs are the democratic members of congress, who are worth collective billions in wealth, yet, create zero jobs. Fail
Report Post »quarando
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 9:39pmOf course the government creates jobs. It employs like 30 million people. It could hire a million next week if it wanted to. Take a look at China, it is not a Capitalist country by any stretch of the imagination. The Chinese government still owns more than 80% of the economy. The run it as a command economy, the government hires people creating millions of jobs at will. About 40% of the US’s GDP is currently based on technology developed by the government.
Anybody telling you government doesn’t create jobs is lying to you. It is completely obvious that the government can and does create jobs. Certainly we can debate how much government involvement is healthy for long term growth and sustainability, but anybody that actually understands anything about the economy realize the government plays a crucial role in funding basic R&D and creating and maintaining stable markets. It isn’t a black hole just sucking productivity and capital out of the economy.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:28amQuarando,
Exactly who do think creates jobs, the government? Those aren’t jobs, those are positions made up by the government to suck the wealth from the middle class. The middle class exist because of the rich, those jobs in middle management created by the rich owners of businesses is all that stand between the American worker and serfdom.
The government doesn’t create jobs, they fill position to run the government, very poorly.
Without capitalism nothing changes, there will still be 3 classes of people: serfs, government officials, and those who rule.
Report Post »HappyHaloHousewife
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:48amExactly, RebelPatriot. Also, how does the government pay for these jobs that they created??? With our tax dollars, DUH! Quarando, how idiotic is it to think that the govt creating jobs would fix things. How do you think the govt is going to pay the wages, and not to mention, the ridiculously bloated pensions that are often attached to govt jobs? And please tell me you‘re not glorifying China’s job creation capabilities…I don’t think we want to go there.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on July 5, 2012 at 12:51amQuarando,
You don’t understand capitalism. The rich will not invest money when the government is not providing for a favorable time to expand their business. Shareholders don’t care if businesses hire or fire people, what they care about is their net return on their investment.
Why would a business spend millions of dollars to expand and get no return on their investments due to government regulations, taxation and fuel prices that are not static.
In capitalism it takes all those things for businesses to grow or for rich people to start new businesses, but the shackles of the progressives are ready to be placed on the free and the brave and you worry about rich people because you are envious of their wealth.
Not very Christian of you. The socialist and communist don’t care if you have a job, they just want control.
Report Post »Skrewedretiree
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:44pmSo, work hard, be diligent, make money, and …….get screwed!
You work for THE STATE!, Coming soon to a country near you!
Actually, it’s already here!
Wake up , America! You are now AMERIKA!
The Sociailst Democracy of Amerika, backed up by a Judicial Dictatorship!
Remember in Novelmber!
Report Post »Dougral Supports Israel
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:42pmThe world is looking more and more like Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”. The leftists should read the book, it doesn’t end well for them.
Report Post »The highlander
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:42pmFrance, US , Britain all have the same problem- inept corrupt politicians who make promises to the ignorant, the lazy, and the crooked. But this is not by accident- the elite know that the current chaos will ultimately bring down the entire system so they can implement total control – this is the end game. They want everyone to be in a continual state state of immorality and dependence- which leads to the defilement of the body and eventual destruction of the soul. WAKE UP
Report Post »Magyar
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:40pmThe gutless, foolish, arrogant French voted for this—let them suffer under it… No sympathy!
It seems that stupid really is forever!
Report Post »bjornskis
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:51pm“The gutless, foolish, arrogant French voted for this—let them suffer under it… No sympathy!
It seems that stupid really is forever!”
right and Oblumber got to be president
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on July 4, 2012 at 6:35pmthese morons never learn
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