Bloomberg Defends Religious Freedom in 9/11 Cross Case
- Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:46pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Does a cross belong among the artifacts to be displayed at the 9/11 Memorial and Museum? The question, apparently, has become a point of contention.
At The Blaze reported last week, some — mainly atheists — say that a steel cross that was formed when the Twin Towers collapsed back in 2001 should not be included in a new museum intended to remember the lives lost during the tragic terror attack.
According to American Atheists (the same organization that coordinated July 4 plane banners in cities across the nation), the cross’ inclusion constitutes an “impermissible mingling of church and state.”
Over the weekend, in response to a lawsuit launched by American Atheists, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg directly addressed the impending legal battle that seeks to prevent the cross from being displayed at the memorial. Speaking in his weekly radio address, Bloomberg said that, though the group has the “right to sue,” he personally believes that the inclusion of religious symbols at the 9/11 museum should be allowed:
“A lot of people looked to religion for strength after the attack. My personal opinion [has] always been you shouldn‘t tell people what religion to practice or whether to practice a religion but you shouldn’t also prevent people from practicing a religion they want in any ways they want.”
Additionally, Bloomberg, who is named in the lawsuit, noted that Christianity isn’t the only faith being represented at the memorial. The Christian Post reports:
They include a Star of David cut from a piece of steel from the World Trade Center rubble, a Bible fused with a piece of steel found during the recovery effort and a Jewish prayer shawl.
But, Bloomberg‘s defense of the symbol also extended beyond religious tones and covered the cross’ historical value:
“This influenced people. It gave them strength. In a museum, you want to show things that impacted people‘s behavior back then even if you don’t think it was right. It’s history. Museums are for history and to teach people by example, well this is what people did back then and you are free to make your own decision.”
While some have criticized the mayor for his open support for the so-called Ground Zero mosque, this newfound call to allow the cross at the museum shows a level of consistency. It seems the city’s top leader takes religious freedom to what some may consider extremes, believing that everyone — regardless of his or her faith — has a right to be heard. This mentality even applies to the Atheists who are launching the suit:
“This group of atheists, they’re free in our country to not believe and not practice and we should defend their right to do that just as much as we should defend the right of every individual to practice and to believe.”
Aside from Bloomberg, others named in the complaint are the state of New Jersey, New York City, and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Below, watch an ABC News report on the American Atheists’ lawsuit:
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Comments (109)
ZABO
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:56pmthe progressive jew is trying to make nice with his non-muslim following! imagine that people!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:01pmBloomberg is still silent on St. Nicholas’ Greek Orthodox church which was destroyed in the fall of the towers and is yet to be allowed to be rebuilt.
Report Post »ICANHANDLETHETRUTH
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:56pmYou know there are a lot of things that offend me, but you don’t hear me whinning like a little bitch !!!!! But yet they can teach about the homos in some Cal. schools !!!!! Hmmm
Report Post »HUNITHUNIT
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 5:40pmI am an atheist and a liberal, and I have absolutely no problem with a cross at that site. These people are just thugs. There is no way that an atheists could actually be offended by that. The fanatics on both sides are going to destroy this country.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 7:47pmi agree with huni. i’m a athiest, not a liberal, but close, and this small group does not speak for all. thugs yes.
Report Post »sundaisy91
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:51pmMaybe i just missed it, but i don’t recall anyone raising this much of a fuss over the atheists flying their banners on July 4th. They get their billboards and signs on busses displaying their [non]beliefs, and yet they don‘t want to look at symbols of others’ beliefs. It’s a rhetorical question, but why are they such hypocrits? i guess it’s all “do as i say, not as i do”
Report Post »Chappy123
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:49pmBloomberg Gets an A++++++ For This!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 3:15pmIf it’s legally allowed then along with this and a jewish symbol I want to see that muslm crescent symbol on ground zero [just to stick it to those anti-muslim genocidal" ground zero" mosque prrotesters!]I was against that cross displaced alone there but alongside a crescent symbol there it would be poetic justice countering those protesters!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:05pmTwo things Rose-Ellen…you’ve lost perpective of the historical aspect of that cross at Ground Zero and how it affected emergency workers there.
Report Post »Secondly, erecting a crescent to, as you put it, “stick it” to anyone you believe needs “sticking it to” is merely a show of spite and has no place at a solemn place of remembrance.
To forget that jihadis were responsible for the atrocity would be a very dangerous thing. To forget what gave people succor in a moment of pain and anguish (the cross on the site) would also be a dangerous thing. You lose again Rose-Ellen…your spite always seems to get the better of you.
NOTALOTTAYITTAYADDA
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:06pmI agree w/ Rose-Ellen, it wasn’t a mooslum, it was a Catholic, head of the port authority.
Find out how the towers fell before pointing a finger.!.
All for the Crescent just to spit in the eye of those so ignorant to believer the $6million man theory.
Report Post »MominMD2003
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:46pmIf they don‘t like the cross they don’t need to go to the museum simple as that. Never understood why they are so scared to see crosses or other religious symbols. If you don’t like it ignore it.
Report Post »psst
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:58pmMom said:“Never understood why they are so scared to see crosses or other religious symbols”.
Report Post »——-
Um, that‘s because Vampires and Crosses don’t seem to git along.I think it has to do about something in their (Vampires) DNA.
pavepaws
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 7:09pm“Never understood why they are so scared to see crosses or other religious symbols.” GUILT
Report Post »RobD1967
Posted on August 3, 2011 at 8:03am“And you shall be hated of all men for my name”s sake; but he that endures to the end, shall be saved.”—Matthew 10:22
You know, speaking as a Christian believer, worship of Jesus Christ is the one, true faith. I say that because He’s the only one who makes people mad, and is the only one the haters really try to silence.
Muslims lie, hate, kill and maim in the name of their god, and the atheists say nothing. In fact, I know a few atheists who still insist we need to be “tolerant” of them, and “dialogue” with them, to find out what they want, and why they hate us.
Jesus is coming back soon, folks; the signs are everywhere.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:38pmYes, but then Bloomberg will also defend putting a Mosque there. I don‘t think there should be a cross there because it’s not as if the people in the Towers sacrificed themselves, and they were slaughtered in cold blood.
Report Post »RootsOfTruth
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:28pmJust wondering…
How many of these atheist cowards showed up to help clean up after the attack… & beyond that…
How many spoke up then to say to them at that time “You cant Pray here” it offends me. ???
Granted, this is now a museum… funded by tax dollars…. a marker of a devastating attack to the soul of our nation & now to be a keeper of our nations history & healing.
Please read every single word of this as they all apply… not just a few that may sound good to you:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That’s all I have to say
Report Post »JEANNIEMAC
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:26pm“Congress shall make no law respecting (regarding) an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”
Report Post »Has Congress passed any laws forbidding a mention of religion in schools or elsewhere? If there are no laws forbidding a mention of God in public places, then God can be mentioned. If Congress does pass laws forbidding the mention of religion, they will have violated the First Amendment. Unconstitutional laws are, in fact, null and void.
RootsOfTruth
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 3:03pmYou & I are on the same page… I just type slower than you :)
Report Post »geonj
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:09pmkill all the athiests and let God sort it out. (it’s a joke, note the irony)
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:53pmIf anything, there should be equal representation between all of the major religions displayed.
Report Post »LB
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:00pmbut no other symbols appeared in the rubble. Only the cross. So it should be the focus
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:08pmThanks for your service liberal Marine. No one is stopping others from representing their beliefs but it seems one belief system (Atheism) is not willing to allow another belief system (Christianity) to exercise freedom of religion according to the Constitution. “…and the free exercise thereof;” Atheism can no longer hide behind the so-called “wall of separation” between church and state. Your religion is just as deep and meaningful to you as my religion is to me.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:19pm“They include a Star of David cut from a piece of steel from the World Trade Center rubble, a Bible fused with a piece of steel found during the recovery effort and a Jewish prayer shawl.”
If not symbols, than at least an acknowledgement that it wasn’t just Christians and the Jewish targeted on that day. That fact doesn seem to be lost on a lot of people.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:20pm*does seem
Report Post »Jackpine Savage
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:22pmIt never ceases to amaze me, that some atheists (present company excluded liberalmarine) who claim they’ve “Evolved beyond the need for a ‘Sky God’” have turned their hatred for all things religious into it’s own pseudo religion.
I guess their “church” would be the ACLU, or maybe the local wastewater processing plant, since most of them are full of -hit anyhow.
How long are we going to let a tiny but vocal group control the vast majority?
Report Post »Enough is enough.
n2woods
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:30pmYes, and we should all learn to speak every language on the planet so everyone feels like we care.
At some point you’ve got to say enough. The cross is not establishing a religion. We can still practice Christianity in America. What you ask is ridiculous. What you really want is the removal of the cross. You want to ensure we cannot practice our religion. It is absurd to attempt to show equal representation of every major religion. Pick a better country.
Report Post »tozniak
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:40pmLiberal Marine:
“If not symbols, than at least an acknowledgement that it wasn’t just Christians and the Jewish targeted on that day. That fact doesn (sic) seem to be lost on a lot of people.”
What people? Most people acknowledge 9/11 as an attack on the United States, not on particular religions per se. The fact that most Americans identify themselves as Christian or Jewish and that all the perpetrators of the atrocity were radical Islamists never resulted in the Islamic “backlash” that many liberal and secular Americans predicted and clearly hoped for.
Report Post »RootsOfTruth
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:55pmI would agree… if there was an active representation of any other religion “or non religion” if it was truly a part of the storyline & history, I am behind that all the way, but minimizing the role of the cross or trying to exclude it all together is pre-emptivley changing the whole history of what happened there.
That cross was extended to all faiths… of all gods not just christians to come together around… if someone doesn’t believe in any God or Jesus… try seeing it for what else it is… Two I-beams from the original tower with many of the names of the fallen, that meant something special to many of the people cleaning up & looking for loved ones as well as being special to many people across this country & around the world.
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 3:08pmNo one is stopping Atheists from being represented in this case. They choose not to use a symbol to represent their faith because court “decisions about tax status have been based upon whether or not an organization functions like a church. On the other hand, establishment clause cases turn on whether the ideas or symbols are inherently religious.” Atheists believe if they have no symbol they will not be considered religious. Nothing could be further from the truth. They believe their symbol-less religion keeps them firmly planted on the state side of “separation of church and state.”
It’s their decision to remain symbol-less although their ideas are inherently religious. Too bad the Humanist Manifesto wasn’t found among the rubble. They could place it side by side next to the cross.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:09pmThere was “equal respresentation between all the major religions” Liberal Marine.
Report Post »The cross formed from the fall of the towers. New York having a large and prominent Jewish community gave the Star of David from metal from the site. And Islam gave us the footage of Palestinians dancing in the streets as the towers fell. Did you forget that Libby?
cemerius
Posted on August 2, 2011 at 11:26amNope! This cross was made by the falling of the towers no human hand made it that way! That is history this isn’t a religous shrine to shiva or sacred cows or to orange robes……..your ‘plurality” is not workable in todays PC world……
Report Post »RobD1967
Posted on August 3, 2011 at 8:27amFirst, thank you for your service to our country.
I make note of the fact that no Muslim symbols or relics, apparently, were found in the rubble of the towers. There were probably people of virtually all faiths represented, but it seems only Jewish and Christian symbols and such were found.
Report Post »Personally, I find this telling, because Jews and Christians worship the same God, only in different fashions.
spirited
Posted on August 3, 2011 at 7:05pmLike the mast of a ship,
what stood amongst the ruins
was that steel cross.
Forget that the cross is a religious symbol; it’s part of a building(s) that once stood.
>Atheists and point-provers need to get over themselves; eat more garlic.
Report Post »ofallon
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:50pmGood for Mayor Bloomberg. Some groups would like to erase history and rewrite it according to their agendas. Christianity doesn’t fit their agenda. It’s called intolerance. At the same time I wouldn’t have a problem with atheists wanting to put steel beams in a museum that spelled out “666” when they fell.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:54pmIndeed, it is nice to see any city mayor making a stand for religious expression; and true, this group of atheists does have the right to place art and icons of their ‘no-faith’ inside a museum willing to put it on display.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:56pmForgot to add this part — in addition, freedom of religious expression is just that, to express the ideals and nature of relgious philosophies or lack of the same that we individually chose to do so. So long as it does not cross into becoming a threat to the safety and well being of another being.
Report Post »binge_thinker
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:51pmAtheists are well known for their intolerance and bigotry. They seem to be a hostile and intolerant lot, unless you agree with them and like to be highly regulated.
Report Post »marine1982
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:45pmWell, if it offends them with the current wording…say it as it is…“The 2 Steel Gurders which were taken from the rubble will be displayed in the Museum”. It just so happens to LOOK like the CROSS. So NOW…Move ON and Get over it !! Geez
I GOTTA GO ! My “TEA” is Ready !!
Report Post »affinnity
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:56pmI don’t understand why this offends anybody. These particular Atheists seem to be trying to make a political statement that really doesn’t need to be made.
Report Post »Jackpine Savage
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:32pmAffinity,
I believe what drives the atheists is a variation on what drives liberals. the thought that somewhere, someone else may be Happier than they are, or maybe (Egads!) having Fun.
Misery loves company, and every liberal I’ve ever met is miserable in one way or another.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 6:17pmMarine1982…you have to understand why militant atheists want that cross removed from anyone’s memory.
Report Post »When it formed “naturally” from the fall of the towers, it gave strength and succor to the emergency workers at the site. They looked at it as a sign of divine oversight of what they were doing. A flag waw raised next to it. It gave them comfort and strength. Now you have a museum that will immortalize that cross and keep it in the national memory forevermore. This is anathema to these militant atheists who cannot allow any kind of religious image to gain such permanency and affection with the American people. It sets back their agenda.
4X4in
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:33pmNow if anything too do with muslims is displayed, I will be PIZZED!
Report Post »willnotbackdown
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:30pmI pity athiests. They must feal cold and alone beleiving that knowing what ever they do it is nothing worthless it does not matter. They are so full of spit and malice they have to infict their lack of belief on everyone. If they want Islam represented they can go scr33 themselfs
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:39pmNot all atheists are like that though, there is a big difference between Atheist and Anti-Christian.
Report Post »affinnity
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:49pmAfter reading the comments on the Blaze and realizing that many Conservatives are Libertarian Atheists I am changing my statements from Anti-Atheism and will focus on attacking Anti-Christians.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:15pmWhy attack anybody? Many people are Anti-Christian because they HAVE been attacked by Christians.
Report Post »4X4in
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:28pmI to am not into the whole GOD thing, and I dont see a problem!
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:49pmI AM and I DO
Report Post »WhatsYerProblem
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:13pmMost telephone poles look like crosses. Time to take ‘em all down, I guess.
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:16pmmakes sense to me.
Report Post »Waterlyly
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:10pmHe really had no choice after his staunch defense of the ground zero mosque.
I’ve said it many times and will continue to repeat it. The Constitution does not say ANYTHING about separation of church and state, that was Thomas Jefferson. The Constitution has an Establishment of Religion clause. It says government shall not establish religion, it also says it [government] will not prevent the free practice of same [religion]. Those vocal anti-Christian atheists (in deference to Liberalmarine) are trying to establish the prevention of the free practice of religion.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 7:52pmno they are not, just don’t want the goverment involved thats all.
Report Post »ProgressivesAreEvil
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:26pmAnd what pray tell does putting these things in a memorial have to do with the government? Again try reading what Waterlyly said. Government…specifically the Federal government is free to recognize religion as long as it does not establish one particular religion as THE religion of the State (i.e. Federal government)
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:01pmIt seems that Mr. Bloomberg is on the right side for once. Just don’t ask him about gun control. I will say this though, at least he has the nads to take a positon, unlike our president who seems to avoid to avoid taking serious positions on issues. Check out this interesting article on BO’s leadership. http://guerillatics.com
Report Post »aesaac
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:16pmIn a jar of uric acid the cross becomes art, as then it becomes anti-theological commentary; it seems that the cross alone is theological commentary – irony if you will, that the religious symbol of the “Great Satan” should have survived [ that it could not be stamped out by any horrific terrorist act - that inspite of any effort it stood, rose from the smoldering ashes of an Islamic hatred ] this is a poetic symbol, it is literature, it is art, it is a sculpture – carved by the hand of the terrorists – this is the great symbolism, the great poetic irony – for those that find more to the cross than a profound poetic serendipity – that is, a Christian religious meaning – that is their experience – for the rest of us it is Art.
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:00pmIf the muslims objected, Bloomberg would have been against the cross.
Bloomberg = muslim apologist and hypocrite.
Report Post »jrfox
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:00pmThese same people will not fight against a mosque being built there.
Report Post »Satan has influenced the thinking of many. They all are against CHRISTIANITY.
The first amendment says the government will make no laws pertaining to religion or FREE exercise of it. They stop prayer in schools and public buildings, which is a DIERCT violation of the first amendment!!
There can be no law siut on this. Any judge that heres a case like this has placed himself above the constitution which he swore to uphold!!!
And, of all things, it is a steel cross, not a crucifix. A cross is used as a ‘plus sign’, shall we get rid of it also? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ron_WA
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:00pmWow, where’d that come from? I was certain he didn’t have the ba!!s to stand up for this … even if he took a wimpy route to do it
Report Post »Boss J
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:59pmWhat sad, pathetic fools these atheists are. How horrible it must be spending every minute of your life looking for things that have absolutely zero effect on you to be offended by.
Report Post »Drum Man
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:58pmI am shocked, but in a good way.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:58pmI‘m an atheist and don’t have a problem with the cross being there at all, but I’m one of those who are atheist but not “Anti-Christian.”
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:34pmI appreciate your comment and your viewpoint. I have no problem with atheists and their “beliefs” [is that even the correct term?] – I believe in freedom of choice. But, I’ve never understood why symbols of faith offend them. If they don’t believe in religious faith what difference does a Cross, Star of David etc make? If they don’t believe, wouldn’t those symbols be no more significant than a street sign etc. Is there a symbol for atheists and do they want it displayed also? For the record, I am a Christian.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:38pmWhere is Bloomberg’s support for the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church at GZ?
Report Post »affinnity
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:41pmI really don’t think this has anything to do with Atheism it actually has to do with these people being Anti-Christian.
Report Post »LiberalMarine
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:44pmHonestly, I don’t know why a lot of them get so angry when they get into a situaiton like this. There really isn’t a “Symbol” for atheism as far as I know, I think that would defeat the purpose a little. I was raised Catholic and a lot of my friends are still Catholic, so that’s why I let people be when it comes to religion. The only time I have a problem is when it is forced down people’s throats through public school or politics.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:49pmThere are several symbols used by various Athiests or athiestic organizations.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist6.htm
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 1:56pmAs a fellow non-believer I concur.
This cross did have meaning for alot of people after the attacks. It should be included in the memorial. These reactionary atheists make the rest of us look bad.
However, it should be noted that cross-beams are standard in building construction. There is nothing “miraculous” that one of the thousands of cross-beams in the WTC remained in tact. Now if the beams had formed a perfect Latin translation of the Ten Commandments THEN the word “miracle” could be entertained.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:28pm“The only time I have a problem is when it is forced down people’s throats through public school or politics.”
I agree with both. Many don’t. Religion (no matter which one it is) or Non-Religon should not be taught in K-12 public schools. However, I don’t have a problem with Religious Studies classes offered at public colleges. The key factor being students can choose to take the class. If a parent wants their child to be taught religion – send them to a parochial school or classes thru church, synagogue etc. Or teach religion at home.
Again, thank you all for thoughtful & respectful comments.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 2:43pmI do have a problem with K-12 public schools providing any students “special” accommodations just because of their religion.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 12:57pm.
‘It’s History’: Bloomberg Defends 9/11 Memorial Cross
I just wonder how long before some Gay couple wants to get married under it? Will you defend it against that Mike? Cause, I don’t think the 3000 that died were fighting for gay rights……….
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on August 1, 2011 at 4:26pm“It’s history.”
It’s also evidence.
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/truth-crushed-to-earth-shall-rise/
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