New Book: Jackie Kennedy Once Called MLK ‘Tricky’ & a ‘Phony,’ Says JFK Openly Scorned a Johnson Presidency
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NEW YORK (The Blaze/AP) — President John F. Kennedy openly scorned the notion of Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson succeeding him in office, according to a book of newly released interviews with his widow, former first lady Jacqueline Kennedy.
She said her husband and his brother then-Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, a longtime LBJ antagonist, even discussed ways to prevent Johnson from winning the Democratic nomination in a future contest. ABC News, which will run a two-hour television special covering these interviews on September 13, writes:
Jacqueline Kennedy’s recollections, in a series of interviews
conducted by writer-historian Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. and kept private by the Kennedy family until this month, depict a distant and at times disturbing relationship between a president and the man who ultimately did succeed him in office upon his assassination.
Here’s a teaser for the ABC special:
These interviews were conducted shortly after her husband was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963. Over seven sessions, she recalled conversations on topics ranging from her husband’s reading habits to the botched Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba.
The book will be published by New York-based Hyperion Books on Sept. 14. Its release comes on the 50th anniversary of Kennedy’s first year in office. The Associated Press bought a copy Thursday.
JFK chose Johnson, a Texas senator and former political rival, as his running mate in 1960. But Jacqueline Kennedy told Schlesinger in the 1964 interviews that he often fretted about the prospect of a Johnson presidency.
“Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, `Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?’” she recalled. “And Bobby told me that he’d had some discussions with him … do something to name someone else in 1968.”
Johnson was sworn in as president after JFK’s assassination and was elected to a full term in 1964. He declined to seek re-election in 1968.
Jacqueline Kennedy also indicated that her husband was highly skeptical about victory in Vietnam, a central battleground of the Cold War and the conflict that brought down Johnson’s presidency. She said that JFK, a Democrat, had named Henry Cabot Lodge, a Republican he had defeated for a Massachusetts Senate seat in 1952, as U.S. ambassador to Vietnam because JFK was so doubtful of military success there.
“I think he probably did it … rather thinking it might be such a brilliant thing to do because Vietnam was rather hopeless anyway, and put a Republican there,” Jacqueline Kennedy said.
JFK increased the U.S. presence in Vietnam throughout his brief administration, adding military advisers to help train the South Vietnamese military. Johnson, as president, would later commit ground troops to the conflict despite initial promises not to. Historians still debate whether Kennedy would have done the same.
Jacqueline Kennedy spoke skeptically of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. She called him “tricky” and a “phony” after hearing about FBI tapes of him and a woman in his hotel room, while noting that JFK had urged her not to be judgmental. (JFK‘s own adulterous affairs weren’t yet widely known.) She said King had mocked her husband’s funeral and Cardinal Richard Cushing, who celebrated Mass at the funeral.
“He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it,” she said. “And things about they almost dropped the coffin. I just can’t see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man’s terrible.”
The book comes with eight audio CDs of the interviews. Jacqueline Kennedy’s voice is firm and girlish, even and clear, but the interviews are occasionally interrupted by sounds of her children, Caroline, who was 5 at the time, and John Jr., who was 3. Schlesinger asks young John if he knows what happened to his father.
“He’s gone to heaven,” the boy replies.
Schlesinger asks what he remembers.
“I don’t remember ANY-thing,” John says playfully.
The book barely mentions the president’s assassination. In a foreword, Caroline Kennedy notes her mother had discussed his murder at length with historian William Manchester but later sued to keep much of the material from being published until 2067. Manchester’s book on Kennedy, “The Death of a President,” came out in 1967.
Jacqueline Kennedy also gave a memorable interview with journalist Theodore H. White, when she referred to her husband’s time in the White House as “Camelot,“ but Caroline Kennedy said the interviews in the new book were ”by far the most important” her mother ever gave.
“My mother willingly recalled the span of her married life and shared her insights into my father’s private and public political personality,” Caroline Kennedy wrote.
The former first lady, who died in 1994, and Schlesinger, who died in 2007, at times sound like a couple of old friends sharing gossip, ridiculing Richard Nixon’s wife, Pat, or labeling LBJ’s wife, Lady Bird, as so obedient she was like a “trained hunting dog.” (She would later soften that opinion.)
At other times, the scholarly Schlesinger fills her in on details about her husband before she knew him or corrects a name or date.
Jacqueline Kennedy, clearly at ease, speaks candidly about her in-laws and about other Kennedy insiders. She marvels at the suspicious nature of her mother-in-law, Rose Kennedy, always wanting to know whether someone was Catholic.
“There seems to be about all these Irish – they always seem to have a sort of persecution thing about them, don’t they?” she asks.
She also accuses sister-in-law Eunice Kennedy Shriver of undue personal ambition and says the president was anxious to dump FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover. She confides she didn’t trust the White House aide and speechwriter Theodore Sorensen, believing he encouraged the perception that he had ghostwritten her husband’s Pulitzer Prize-winning “Profiles in Courage.”
“You know, Jack forgave so quickly, but I never forgave Ted Sorensen,” she said.
Sorensen, who died last year, was widely regarded as devoted to JFK. Jacqueline Kennedy said the president, out of personal fondness, even gave Sorensen the book’s royalties.
She offers intimate details of her husband awaiting election results in 1960, when he defeated Nixon for the presidency, or working on his inaugural speech. She says little about the events in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963, but she does recall a conversation in their room the night before. She despised the Democratic governor of Texas, John Connally, who was in the car with the Kennedys when the president was shot. She said she couldn’t stand him and his “soft mouth.”
“Jack was so sweet. He sort of rubbed my back … and said, `You mustn’t say that, you mustn’t say that,’” she recalled. “If you start to say or think that you hate someone, then the next day you’ll act as if you hated him.”
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felix
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:53amjackie hit it right on the head, and hoover faked nothing – period !!
Report Post »SCHEXbp
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 1:35pmBeck deifies MLK WAY TOO MUCH. Note the details of planned orgy in DC (see Drudge) are left off Blaze reporting. If Beck calls Sanford a dirtbag, what does this make MLK???
Report Post »Willful Blindness (perhaps in honor of the MLK female Rev. often on the show & who seems a wonderful person). But too much “evidence” to ignore his extremely immoral character.
RabidPatriot
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 1:46pmThis is what happens when someone is martyred. It becomes taboo to say what that person was really like. His supporters can attach any positive and inaccurate tales to their legacy without challenge. Making that person a saint when in real life they were mere fractions of their legacies. As time goes by nobody remembers the man just the hype.
Report Post »WeeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 3:57pmTHANK YOU, JACKIE !!!
Report Post »Even dead, you speak more truth than the mealy-mouths black-racists and white-apologists of today (sorry Glenn, that includes you).
WeeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 4:03pmTHANK YOU, JACKIE !!!
Report Post »Even dead, you speak more truth than the mealy-mouths bláck-rácists and white-apologists of today (in Barack Hussein Obama’s case, he’s both). And sorry Glenn … you’re included in this group.
Inmyopinion
Posted on September 10, 2011 at 6:44amIn my opinion, Jackie was gossiping. Gossip is not necessarily the truth. Just because she says something doesn’t make it true. The truth died with her husband, Martin Luther King, and Lyndon Johnson.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on September 11, 2011 at 11:45amOddly, those are the descriptors I’d use for Jesse (Sr. & Jr.), Al, Rangel et al. MLK died for his beliefs. I don’t see those kinds of risks being taken by these provocateurs. But I do see them making a good living stirring up racial hate.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:50amDead wife of dead, mafia-connected, alcoholic philanderer speaks from the grave, again.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 11:32amJust another example of all these expose’ books which are either full of lies, conjecture, or miss-information. Who wants to go out and pay $35 for a book that has no true substance? If I want to read a novel, I’ll buy a novel. If they can’t release most of the info, why write a book? Nothing to tell here, except I’m surprised about her comment about MLK.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 3:43pmThe Jackie O gossip column … I’d rather know how much more time has to pass before we find out EXACTLY how Kennedy was assassinated and by who …
Report Post »Burlington Bill
Posted on September 12, 2011 at 1:50pmChazman, try reading LBJ: Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination by Phil Nelson — the single best text on the subject I’ve found in YEARS of research. Also “Me & Lee“ and ”Dr. Mary’s Monkey” are huge eye-openers. Case closed in my mind. Motives? CYA on Estes and Baker scandals, either of which would have landed LBJ in prison.
Report Post »DEITY
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:32amMost likely was a phony,most loud mouths are.Thats why I never trust anyone or get excited about some loud mouth,politician or who/what ever they are !
Report Post »robert
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:53amFor these leftist dregs to claim that Hoover was fabricating evidence is nothing more than another example of their refusal to admit to the truth. The entire base of rabid liberalism is constructed on a thousand lies.
Claiming that the FBI exposed MLK’s philandering and disgusting ways and attitude, because they just didn’t like him is so bizarre as to be absolutely incredible. We‘ll know for certain when the information they’re holding is made public in a few years.
And, when the recordings and other data prove the FBI info to be true, the same kinds of black liars and leftist radicals will conjure up some hypothesis as to how everything was manufactured.
Report Post »IndianaJan
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:31amI am old enough to remember Nov. 22, 1963 very well. It is so amazing to me that the Warren Commission report stands, and that we are not allowed to know the real truth in our lifetime. That having been said, I think history is constantly being rewritten, and we should be very careful about drawing conclusions. Take this strangely timed book with a boatload of salt.
Report Post »And Lorianne has it spot on:
loriann12
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:47am
He picked him to win votes as a Democrat. John Kennedy was more conservative than most Democrats, and needed an edge. Plus he had the controversy of being a Catholic to fight against.
Brontefan
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 3:34pmI, too, remember that day very well. It might have happened yesterday. I was in high school in the gym. Standing there in the stupid royal blue gymsuit with a short skirt and bloomers underneath…. when the PA announced the President had been shot. I immediately turned to the gal on my right and asked, “The President of what?” because it was inconceivable to me that it would be THE president. And yes.. he was a conservative. I have been a fan all these years, even through all the muck raking and details about his extramarital affairs. He wasn‘t the first and he wasn’t the last! Basically, I still admire him because I know he originally wanted to be a Harvard History professor but the family forced him into politics. He followed the path originally designed for his older brother Joe, because he wanted to do something valuable for this country. At least he didn’t want to fundamentally transform it into a Marxist country!!!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 11:25pmI got to see JFK when he was running for president. Later I was at the JFK grave (1964) I remember the mud, no grass yet because it was winter they were unable to put it in. I waiting in line for a long time and finally got the grave. And who walks up? President Johnson and a older woman no more than two feet away from me. I was 10yrs old then.
Report Post »Nemo13
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:19amWell, she got MLK right. He was a communist, plagerist, was not a legitimate reverend, was not a bona fide PhD, etc., etc… truth is out there for those wishing to seek it. A fraud held to high esteem and FBI records sealed for 30 years by Democrats so they and media could USE this man to sway his followers for their uses. Beware any media person who starts talking about when they met MLK, or did an essay on MLK, or whatever. That is a sales pitch to kiss some butt for a group of people. No real AMERICAN supports a communist or fraud past or present.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:49amShe was right, he was a tricky (read piece of crap) person
Report Post »blazingaway
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 11:23amThe monument they are putting up in DC of King is outrageous, way over-done, out of proportion and has him looking mean, arrogant and almost evil … it just goes to show how out-of-proportion he truly is in the larger picture of our nation and even racial harmony. Just a joke for the reverse raciest to perpetuate their never ending exploitation and personal gain of racism by creating yet another false image of the man trying to make him into something he wasn’t while at the same time tearing down the founding fathers.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 6:03pmI was in my mid twenties when the legend (MLK) lived. Let me say this gently, revisionist historians are lairs.
BTW I’m live in Georgia, and I know the truth.
Report Post »Seede
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:15amJFK was more of a conservative than anything you have today and he was a democrat. He was a true patriot and for that reason he was murdered. Sure he had faults just like everyone else but he was a loyal American first and foremost. MLK was tricky just like Jackie said and every time he made his freedom rallies you always got a riot soon after he left town. He lived off the backs of the blacks and black wannabes just like Sharpton and Jackson do today. His morals were absolutely despicable and not a word said for political correctness. MLK was the biggest hypocrite that ever walked in shoes and Jackson is second to none.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:20amI think exactly the same thing about JFK. I believe they thought he would make a fine puppet and salesman, but once he was President he became his own man, and an American leader.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:27amAnd I also believe the Marylin Monroe affair was manufactured so as to control JFK, and later Monroe was taken out because of their fear she knew too much.
Report Post »Slayer
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:04amJackie O.
Report Post »A vapid, shallow, social climbing Liberal who wouldn’t spit on you if you walked by her window.
TXPilot
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:16amSo, the Kennedys are turning out to be something less than the perfect fairytale that the left-wing has been wanting us to believe for decades? Thats the way it usually goes anyhow, since as time passes, libs always try to shine up their heros/turds and make them appear to be something greater than they were, while anyone thats too conservative has to have their legacy dragged through the mud.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:28amThe Kennedys were right about the Johnsons. Viet Nam War spanned from 68-75, and ther were approximatelly 56,193 men killed. This was not a voluntary enlistment. Almost 15,000 twenty year olds , and a little over 9,000 twenty-one year olds died in that war. 58,193 died all together. Lady Bird Johnson is always so revered, but she was making the bucks off of medical supplies, while Rockefellas were purportedly making money off of selling weapons to the enemy. This was simply a blood money war. Got no respect for people making their fortunes off of blood money. That is why the war lingered. Nixon put the stop to it.
Report Post »Seede
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:30amCommon Slayer– You know dam well that she didn‘t pull John’s strings. JFK was all man and laid his life out for this bunch of commies you have today and then laid his life out for you too. How much more can one guy do?
Report Post »poster
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:02amI hope all proceeds from the book go to the United ***** College Fund. Book profits are a terrible thing to waste.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:54am@Poster . “I hope she leaves the procedes to the United ***** College Fund, Book Profits are a terrible thing to waste.”
Report Post »LOL You must have seen that skit by that black commedian years back that said
“So please donatet to the United ***** College Fund…because the mind is a terrible thing.”
Greg the Great
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:01amKennedy’s looked great. Over praised, for a bad job performance. LBJ passed all the ground breaking bills, and the Kennedy’s took all the credit. LBJ weakness he believed his secretary of state, and his southern generals. IE Westmoreland, and Henry Kissinger. Also kept the Kennedy’s biggest idiot Robert S. McNamara — Secretary of Defense.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 2:54pmEven as a child then -I thought JFK was strange looking-even ugly. I never understood all the adults even the nuns thinking he was so handsome. I believe he was a war monger and would have been no better then johnson regarding viet nam. I never liked MLK’s face- especially his mouth and his voice. He looked and sounded like a phony to me even then[of course as a child i was ignorant of policies]The nuns had a picture of Jackie in the hallway and I always thought she was the most beautiful woman ever. I still think she was the quinessential perfect first lady.Now when I hear her voice-she sounds just like marilyn monroe-i guess that was the way women were suppossed to sound back then-submissive ,childish and inauthentic as hell.We have come a long way.Thank God I was a child then and never had to play that game.
Report Post »poster
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:00amHas Sharpton seen this???
Report Post »tess q
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:45amthe obots i know are even more infatuated with JKF. they are not going to like hearing that MLK made fun of JFK funeral. this could bring out the true racism of the left.
Report Post »GMI
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:59amlived thru that era. mlk was as phony as anyone, lbj was evil to the core, and jfk has somehow deflecked responsibility for Viet Nam? 3 hardcore dems, somethings never change!
Report Post »BrerRabbit
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:58amJFK was right. LBJ was a nightmare. We are reaping the now the seeds of his GREAT SOCIETY! Bastards bred by welfare wh$res!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:46amSpot on Mate, spot on..
Report Post »GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:55amHmmmmmmmmmmm, tricky and phony? Sounds like Ted to me!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:01amI believe this article, and I believe Jacqueline said those things. I am however suspect of the timing of this release.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:52amSounds like an interesting read if you’re into the Kennedys–I am not.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:05amIf you had some kind of thought about the direction of our nation, then you may find the article interesting. Case in point in my understanding of our nation there is a movement by some to create a race war in the U.S, and the portion showing Jacqueline’s opinion of MLK to me is suspect (even though I personally believe her opinion).
Report Post »mcFirst
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:50amThat is why LBJ assassinated JFK.
We soon went into war – LBJ was as evil as they come.
JFK was the last real president!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:56amWait, I thought Obama killed Kennedy?
Report Post »NEAF
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:59amThat is a serious accusation. Can you prove it in a court of law?
Report Post »bill oswald
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:59amYa, and I’m Santa Clause.
Report Post »kindling
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 10:45amWhich Obama……the first of second?
Report Post »panz
Posted on September 10, 2011 at 11:21amThe last American Gunslinger.
Report Post »Blight14
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:49amThe Beast as Saint, a whoremonger, plagiarist, Communist, etc…..yet the sheeple fawn over this abomination as if he actually was worthy of praise….its sickening to witness………….
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:48ami think she looks pretty hot
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:06amNot hot!
Report Post »mcFirst
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:47amAnd that is why LBJ killed JFK.
We soon went into war – LBJ was evil as they come.
JFK was the last real president!
Report Post »preppymom
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:45amUmm…what she says about MLK is kinda true but it is extremely politically incorrect to say so. I‘ve never seen a psychological profiler be truthful about what is in Martin Luther King’s handwriting. It is not good. Google search his signature and look at his “g” in King. It is a high cat’s claw with a loop and triangle formation. People with a cat’s claw are amazingly charismatic and usually have professions involving communication. They also have sexual imaginations no one can satisfy and are often bisexual. Dishonesty and greed run high in cat’s claw individuals. If your mad at me for saying this, think. MLK was a pastor and look at his behavior in those hotel rooms with women. People with bad character do amazing things all the time. MLK is an example of this.
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sWampy
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:24amHe was evil to the core, caused the suffering of millions, pre MLK, blacks were advancing at a rate faster than whites in education and wealth building, since he freed them, they have gone backwards. Sure we have millions of tokens that have good paying jobs they don’t deserve they are given because they are black creating resentment in the workforce from all the people that were discriminated against so they could be given their token job. Hundreds of millions have suffered because of the welfare system created because of this socialists to redistribute from the whites to the blacks. Our cities have been destroyed, our education system has been destroyed, our middle class will go next, all this for social justice disguised as fake equality
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:44am.
Report Post »A Racist and a Biggot who would have thunk it?…..Will this finaly tarnish the Kenedy image, and show them for what they are……………
one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:38amPresident John F. Kennedy openly scorned the notion of Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson succeeding him in office..
Report Post »So what did he pick him for V.P in the first place for ?? pppffft !!….
loriann12
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:47amHe picked him to win votes as a Democrat. John Kennedy was more conservative than most Democrats, and needed an edge. Plus he had the controversy of being a Catholic to fight against.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:50amI’m guessing he was told who his running mate would be by the same people he talked about in his last speech on media to the congress. The same people that shot him.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
Seede
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:22amYour party dictates who you run with and your party runs you. It’s not an individual thing such as you are led to believe. Just like today. Soros and Buffett runs the communist party called democrats.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:35amIf both men had lived to a ripe old age, would their legacies be as large today?
Report Post »elrond3737
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:56amare they large? LBJ isn’t so much at least
Report Post »Doni609
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 9:26amWhy Gonzo, their legacies are quite large. Just look at Cuba, the same exact mess that JFK left it in, and just look at the monitary crisis we now find ourselves in; very much the result of the welfare state mentality of Johnson with all his new social programs. Legacy indeed!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 10:42amI’m talking about MLK and JFK. MLK was just memorialized on the mall. When he was alive he ran with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton etc. Both Al and Jesse lived to be old men and their circle of influence today is quite small. Certainly neither of them will be memorialized on the mall. Would MLK have ended up like them? As for Kennedy, I seriously doubt he would be any more of an American icon than say Eisenhower is today. In the minds of many Americans, Kennedy is like Lincoln.
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:31amI will watch this and MIGHT buy the book I like to read about the Kennedy family and Jackie to me was the greatest of all, of coarse she married in so she had half a chance.. what a strange family they are. I feel bad for those left, they must live with the knowledge of the lies and curruption and yet they still feel privalaged.. sad..
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:43amWho’s your favorite Kennedy ? Ted ?
Report Post »preppymom
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:29amI analyzed Jackie Kennedy’s handwriting once but I never wrote about it. Her personality profile is a lot different than her image. Interestingly, she has the same cold harshness that runs through a lot of the women in the Kennedy clan. Rose Kennedy’s writing is down right brutal. I wouldn’t want to cross any of them.
Report Post »http://www.crackingthemalecode.com/
smithclar3nc3
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:24amWw this is a great news story 40 years ago….As it stands today it mights well be what a T-REX thought of LBJ.
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