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Jilted Man Posts Pro-Life Billboard Accusing Ex-Girlfriend of Having Abortion

ALAMOGORDO, N.M. (The Blaze/AP) — A New Mexico man’s decision to lash out with a billboard ad saying his ex-girlfriend had an abortion against his wishes has touched off a legal debate over free speech and privacy rights.

The sign on Alamogordo’s main thoroughfare shows 35-year-old Greg Fultz holding the outline of an infant. The text reads, “This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-Month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child!”

Jilted Man Posts Pro Life Billboard Accusing Ex Girlfriend of Having Abortion

Fultz’s ex-girlfriend has taken him to court for harassment and violation of privacy. A domestic court official has recommended the billboard be removed.

But Fultz‘s attorney argues the order violates his client’s free speech rights.

“As distasteful and offensive as the sign may be to some, for over 200 years in this country the First Amendment protects distasteful and offensive speech,” Todd Holmes said.

The woman’s friends say she had a miscarriage, not an abortion, according to a report in the Albuquerque Journal.

Holmes disputes that, saying his case is based on the accuracy of his client’s statement.

“My argument is: What Fultz said is the truth,” Holmes said.

Still, the Fultz’s abortion claims is based on shaky enough information that the New Mexico Right to Life chapter that originally endorsed the ad — and is see on the billboard — has now pulled that endorsement and asked to be removed from the sign.

The woman’s lawyer said she had not discussed the pregnancy with her client. But for Ellen Jessen, whether her client had a miscarriage or an abortion is not the point. The central issue is her client’s privacy and the fact that the billboard has caused severe emotional distress, Jessen said.

“Her private life is not a matter of public interest,” she told the Alamogordo Daily News.

Jessen says her client’s ex-boyfriend has crossed the line.

“Nobody is stopping him from talking about father’s rights. … but a person can‘t invade someone’s private life.”

For his part, Holmes invoked the U.S. Supreme Court decision from earlier this year concerning the Westboro Baptist Church, which is known for its anti-gay protests at military funerals and other high-profile events. He believes the high court’s decision to allow the protests, as hurtful as they are, is grounds for his client to put up the abortion billboard.

“Very unpopular offensive speech,” he told the Alamogordo Daily News. “The Supreme Court, in an 8 to 1 decision, said that is protected speech.”

Holmes says he is going to fight the order to remove the billboard through a District Court appeal.

Comments (107)

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  • runwithscissors
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:09am

    I do not want abortion but this fool has NO say in the matter, he didn’t think enough of the child to marry her before he bedded her. To me he seems self absorbed and weak.

    He’s also fat and needs a haircut but thats another issue. (he spent how much on the billboard and couldn’t make himself presentable?)

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    • doodad
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:17pm

      And you’re perfectly fine with only broads having the almighty power to decide if a man is going to be a father or not? You sound like one of the “conditioned” that worships motherhood and hates/has disdain for fatherhood.

      That said, I seriously thought HE was the SHE in question. He kinda reminds me of the son of S&S Logging on Axe Men. Cold chill moment.

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  • flsnipe
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:07am

    Its all about the consequences of our actions and our consistent denial of them.

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  • IRESPECTYOU
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:04am

    what he did was disrespectful ‘ Our “RIGHTS” and our “OPINIONS” do not “trump” kindness. P.S i am pro life

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    • doodad
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:12pm

      Yeah…okee doke. Did you find it “disrespectful” that she killed his child without consulting him first, or are you one of the typically conditioned and brainwashed people in this country that believes a woman has the right to play God with the kid‘s life and the man’s wallet? I am very curious to know if you believe as many do that men should be forced into unwilling fatherood while only women have a “choice.”

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  • krenshau
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:00am

    He didn’t identify the woman. He didn’t put her name up, or any other identifiable information about her, so he didn’t violate her privacy. If fact, no one in the general public would even know who the woman was if she hadn’t taken him to court. I don’t think he did anything wrong.

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  • azsmitty
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:46am

    For too long fathers have been quiet concerning the effects of abortion on them. Consentual sex resulting in pregnancy involves 3 entites, one has no voice whatsoever, one is ignored only one is allowed to over-ride the choice factor of the others. Life is the single most clinged to possession we have, witness one who has approached the end of life and how long it takes the physical organism to finally shut down. Witness the pain of family members haveing to make choices to end life sustaining equipment from a loved one who has no hope of survival. The unborn child given a voice would choose life, afterall it is what the natural intended results of the consensual sex is, preservation of the species. The father, ignored and trivialized as being unimportant, unless of course a child does result, then the father is expected to finacially contribute to its well being and it will be imposed by force of law if he resists. Leaving us with the one person who could have prevented it all……………………..the woman. Abortion was never intended to be a birthcontrol method. Choices were made, some of which weren’t good but to punish two of the three for the benefit of one is not just. In simpler times public humiliation was a deterence to bad behavior. In colonial America miscreants were placed in public stocks in the town square to serve as an example of what happens when one breaches the norms of society. A little humiliation goes a long way.

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    • Mikhail Kennedy
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 5:56pm

      I totally agree with you on this issue, let the ones who have abortions own it. All the other murderers have their names and photos in the news.

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  • tbconrad
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:36am

    It’s not like her name is on the sign. I don’t necessarily agree with putting up the sign but that is what free speech is about. Actions have consequences get used to it.

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  • TRILO
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:17am

    Personally I say good for him. Here is a man who wanted to take care of his child. Look at how many men encourage women to have abortions. Look at how many men who abandon their children. He did not name the woman with whom he is speaking about. The article said that the Right to Life organization pulled their endorsement. Shame on them; stand up for your cause. This was a powerful message for those men who want their babies. The abortion crowd sure does not have a problem going into public schools to promote their agenda. The Planned Parenthood in my town has a steady stream of young girls coming and going. If this were a picture of a woman and her baby crying out that the father walked out on them no one would have blinked. The double standard is amazing.

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  • Red1492
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:12am

    This guy will never get another date – ever.

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:37am

      Not from any child-killers. Seems like he just weeded out the trash if you ask me.

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  • ofallon
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:55am

    The woman lawyer said, “Nobody is stopping him from talking about fathers rights…but a person can‘t invade someone’s private life.” But the doctor invaded the father’s private life when he destroyed his baby without his permission.

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  • RazorsEdge
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:52am

    The sign doesn‘t mention the woman’s name or show her picture. If she was concerned with privacy, she wouldn’t have filed a lawsuit letting everyone know who she was.

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  • christianUSA
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:45am

    This is not about one man but what is happening in mass world wide. Men Fathers have been stripped of all rights of their own children before birth and after birth mother have the majority of control and can with impunity cut contact with fathers; even in marriage there no penalty for having another mans baby. Humans are not asexual baby are not made from conception by 2 a man plus and women so from conception a baby is not the mother body. Laws have encouraged destruction the natural trust relationship men need with women to form families to raise child. Why should not a father be anger at the killing of his child?

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    • Red1492
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:12am

      Men aren’t stripped of their rights. They have a right not to have sex and have the right to be sterilized or use a condom.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:34am

      @RED1492

      The same “rights” go for women as well…

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  • Conkuur
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:28am

    I think it would have had greater impact if it indeed mentioned her name (If it was factually accurate if not he should be prosecuted) I mean truth is truth stand up and be accountable for your decision.

    So let me get this straight as long as no one knows abortion is ok?

    I say keep “Planned Parenthood” but make it mandatory for them that everyone who gets an abortion they have to name the fetus and be mentioned in the obituary column in the local newspaper. There that sounds reasonable. If it’s not wrong own it!

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    • proudfather2
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:01am

      I say keep “Planned Parenthood” but make it mandatory for them that everyone who gets an abortion they have to name the fetus and be mentioned in the obituary column in the local newspaper. There that sounds reasonable. If it’s not wrong own it!

      Brilliant !!! I would vote for that!! I do believe that would save alot of innocent lives, most want to do their deeds in the shadows with no percieved consequences, I agree make it where they have to own it!

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  • proudfather2
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:20am

    Ok Libs, I need you to explain something to me. If the mother decides to kill ( sorry terminate ) the “fetus then it is her choice,even if the father does not agree, But if that same father is driving her to the clinic and someone runs a red light and the “fetus” is “terminated” then it is manslaughter. What about Scott petterson he was given 2 counts of murder( which he should have) for killing the mom and a “fetus”. Maybe I am just not enlightened enough but that is a contradiction. Why is it the mother can kill her innocent child and it is “the law” but if you go and take an egg out of the nest of a bald eagle it is a federal crime……..isn’t that just a fetus? is is not an eagle until it breaths air or sees daylight. In all these scenarios the only thing that has changed is the size and location of the “fetus”, It already has it’s on DNA therefore it is a separate human.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:55am

      The libs will never agree with you because it would mean that they would have to take on responsibility for at least some of their actions. Everytime I get in an argument about choice with a lib, they end up saying that it is a woman’s body and her choice whether or not to have a child. To which I usually reply that the choice of whether or not to have a child is made when you have sex because we all know that there is a risk of having a child when you have sex. Either you accept that risk and the consequences or you don’t. Just like when I am driving down the highway at 120 on my bike, I know and accept the risk. Once I crash I can’t wish all the broken bones and road burn away, I have to live with my decision.

      Just to be clear, I don’t think that crashing a motorcycle doing a buck20 is on par with the consequences of getting pregnant. The crash is a far worse consequence and it is much more immediate and I would say painful (there is a mother somewhere cursing me out right now). On the other hand, having a child should be a bright spot in any parent’s life whether or not it is planned.

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    • proudfather2
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 11:17am

      @sgtb- I think you hit the nail of the head, the 3 best days of my life was the day I married my wife and the the birth of my 2 girls. I tell My girls that sex is like a fire, if it is kept where it should ( marriage) it is like a fire in the fire-place, warm and comforting, but if you take that same fire and put it out in the wilderness it is distructive and consuming. In everything we do we have consequences and just because you make a bad choice does not mean you are a bad person, just don’t make the innocent pay for that lack of judgement.

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    • rcw1120
      Posted on June 8, 2011 at 1:08am

      @ Proudfather2
      I can only give my opinions and cant speak for other liberals or their views.
      Should a person who hit and killed a pregnant mother get two counts of manslaughter? Depends on the age of the fetus. If the fetus is old enough to live out of the womb, then yes. If the fetus is too young for that to happen, then no. Why? Because until it is able to live on its own outside the mother it is , as it fits the definition as such, a parasite. Sounds harsh, I know, but thats just how it is. The mother has to carry the child for 9 months (on average) and pay for the pre natal vitamins, the check ups, the ultrasounds, and unless they are married or have a joint account, the birthing of the child. Thats a lot of money. So why should the father have any say in it? Yeah, it may be his child, but the men spent 20 minutes floppin around on top of the woman and she has to deal with it for around 9 months? Thats just fun isnt it.

      Then again, I cant say that I am pro-life or pro-choice, I am pro-situation/education.
      If a child cant survive out of the womb and it is necessary for medical, financial, or marital issue, then go for it. As long as it isnt used as normal birth control, then go for it.
      If a child is old enough to survive out of the womb, and the person has all of the resources to give the child a good life, then no. No abortion for you. Then again, think of this scenario. A woman has cancer and is pregnant. Abort the child to save her life, or give her life for th

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  • candcantiques
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:13am

    “The central issue is her client’s privacy and the fact that the billboard has caused severe emotional distress”

    The womans name wasnt mentioned. There was no picture of her. Her privacy was protected till she came out and objected maker herself know to all. I do not like the sign. I think its tasteless and hurst all anti abortion groups HOWEVER he does have the right of free speech and he did NOT advertise who she was. SHE advertised who she was.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:48am

      What is your major dispute with the billboard? Is it that the man doesn’t fit your standards of beauty or something? Should we hire someone like Mr. Pitt for you so that it would better suit your tastes? I seriously bet that that is your problem with the sign.

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  • Seabee79
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:56am

    Well he did not use her name or picture on the billboard plus he has the right to do so.

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  • John 3:16
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:30am

    Murder is murder, you can refer to it as a “HIT” a snuff,or an abortion it’s still murder. What he did is much less serious than murder, if she infact, murdered his/ their baby.

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    • teddrunk
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:42am

      I agree completely. She‘s a murderer and he’s simply called her out on it. No murderer should feel safe hiding behind their murdering. The only people that would disagree, are those that don‘t think it’s murder, which of course, is absurd.

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  • warner
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:25am

    If this ad stops one person from aborting a baby it has done its job! If a Mother is going to demand support for a child then she should have to notify the Father if she is going to abort. Eitherway, abortion is murder plain and simple, and there is nothing you can say to change my mind. This country has lost its moral fiber and I for one am ashamed.

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  • InterestCapital
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:05am

    To me it is so obvious that this is NOT just a woman’s choice about her body. That baby is just as much the father‘s as it is the mother’s. IT SHOULD BE A FELONY FOR A WOMAN TO ABORT A PREGNANCY WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE CHILD’S FATHER.

    If the ad brings peoples’ attention to this very serious issue then it has done its job.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:44am

      I think that to make that change come about quicker we should institute a law in the interim that states that a man has the same time frame (throught the 1st or 2nd trimester depending on state law) that a woman has to have an abortion, to claim nullification of his rights and responsibilities to the unborn child.

      Now, I’m not for men going around and having illegitimate children and not supporting them. But what I am against is the double standard that a woman can choose whether or not she wants to support a child. Even after the child is born the woman can leave the family and never pay child support. Seriously, how many fathers would take a dead beat mom to court for child support? I don’t know anyone who has done it and won.

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    • BetsyRoss1513
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 2:32pm

      @sgbt — WRONG. I know plenty of women who pay child support.

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    • Sand
      Posted on June 9, 2011 at 1:31pm

      The problem is.. what if the man wants the child aborted and the woman does not? You must make it a felony if EITHER party wants the child and the other wishes to kill it, the father or mother. I know of a high school student who kicked his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach until she aborted. He didn’t want the child. In that case, there should be protections in place.. actually, to be fair, if EITHER don’t want the child, the child should have a right to be born and taken from the “parents” and given to someone who does want him or her. We used to call them orphanages, before killing the helpless became the norm. God help them all – young and old.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:05am

    Good add and nowhere on the billboard do I see a mention of who the “mother” was???? She could have blown it off if someone recognized it as her ex by saying “he was a paid actor”……

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  • KingDawg
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:04am

    maybe this a way to open the eyes of some people….I thought it was a good idea…

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:01am

    it should be public record women that have abortions and especially if tax payer dollars are used!! if you marry a woman she could have had 4 abortions and you would have any knowledge of it. Sick and disgusting practice the nazi’s would be proud!

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    • mycomet123
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:50am

      Hitler didn’t start the idea of abortion. Hiter got ihe idea from Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood which she founded 1916–well before Hitler’s killings. Unfortunately America continues to slaughter the our children.

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    • Bids
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:39pm

      Right MYCOMET, because no one had an abortion prior to Sanger starting Planned Parenthood. @@

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:59am

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    That’s just wrong, funny but wrong……….

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  • Ralleo
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:58am

    It doesn‘t say the mother’s name, and the only thing that he should have done differently is use an actor for the picture. Other than that, it is just a typical billboard advertisement. If the mother didn’t take offense at it, it probably would never even be noticed that it is a reference to her.

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    • Wilkins
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:09am

      Every one of her family, friends, acquaintances, employer etc. know exactly who she is. Makes no difference in her circle that her name doesn’t appear.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:20am

      The woman is more upset about the billboard than she is about the murder??? And many here see no problem with that twisted “logic”???

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:21am

      FYI – the photo is of the man (father) a photo of himself……

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:29am

      @Wilkins

      As soon as she told the father of the child what her intentions were, she forfeited her right to privacy…

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:58am

    This is a very touchy subject with me and raises my ire like you wouldn’t believe. Abortion is murder but this lowlife man did not do this because of the baby, he did it out of spite. They both need a lot of prayers.

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    • jerkie93
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:36am

      You don’t know that at all. Are you his best friend? Do you know the woman? I seriously doubt it…what you have is an opinion. Nothing more………

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:37am

      Why should this subject be so much more touchy for you than any other person in this great wide world? Seriously!? Are you so special in this world that not a single other person has felt the consequences of abortion as you have?

      You have no way of knowing how this man truly feels and what his motives are. Do you know if he already has any children or not? Do you know if he viewed the death of his child as the snuffing of the flame of hope that he had for every having a son or daughter to share his life with?

      You are not so special Mary and this man has EVERY right in the world to let the world know his half of the story.

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    • doodad
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:07pm

      Wow Marylou7 can read minds of people she’s never met!!! “Beware the soothsayer…”

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  • OLDBIKEFIXER
    Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:50am

    Yep… this idiot makes everyone who is against abortions look like nut-jobs. Just what we need. What a dirtbag!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 7:59am

      Was that his child the woman aborted if so he has every right to be angry and let people know what kind of woman she is.
      More over he has a fathers rights to be outraged. Isn‘t it funny that when a woman is pregnant and has the child the courts claim it’s takes two people to make a child and both are responsible but it doesn’t give the father a voice when it come to aborting a child. Same old hypocritical liberal biases,
      If a father doesn‘t have a say in whether a child is murdered in the womb he shouldn’t have to pay if it is born. Equal rights for both parents or women stand on their own.

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    • PelositheGreat
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:04am

      Do all libs just sit at home all day and slam conservative values? I see his point. Tasteless, but I see his point. Free speach is free speach. Truth is a defense to liable.

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    • Wilkins
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:04am

      Well I guess that relationship’s over. How’s the dating scene working out for you now, Greggie?

      Not that this billboard’s ok if it was an abortion, but what if it really was a miscarriage?

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    • beverlee
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:11am

      Actually, as much as she had the right to an abortion….he has the right to speak out against her for doing it.

      A former co-worker’s girlfriend had an abortion that she told him about afterward. It totally devastated him. He loved her and wanted to marry her…she said she just wasn’t ready to settle down.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:19am

      If someone killed my child a sign would be the least of their worries. Just because government says killing someone is legal doesn’t mean it right nor without consequences.

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    • joyfulmom
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:19am

      Life…the value of Life! Only God can change a heart. We’re all sinners in need of a Saviour! The Bible says that there is none righteous, no not one! Even the good we think that we do, is tainted with selfish motives and pride…Before a Holy and Just God, we ALL deserve hell because we’ve all broken the 10 commandments….just ask yourself, Have you ever told a lie? Said God’s name in vain? Hate in your heart is like murder. If in your heart you have lusted after a woman it is though you have committed adultery. Have you ever looked upon a man/woman and lusted? You have sinned against a Holy God and on Judgment Day, will you deserve heaven or hell? The answer is hell, we ALL deserve hell, because we are ALL sinners! Good News: Jesus Christ, over 2,000 years ago, died on a cross for your sins and mine. The punishment that we deserve, He took upon Himself so that we can have the righteousness of Christ. REPENT, turn from your sins and accept Christ, put your faith and trust in Jesus. You cannot save yourself, it’s only a gift of God, so fall on your knees and cry out to God to have mercy on your soul. If you don’t understand, ask God to show you His Truth and that He will open your eyes. Only God can do this!

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    • Thomas
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:27am

      I would like to amend my previous statement. If some murdered by child whether in the womb or born a sign would be the least of their worries. Because anyone who aborts a child is a murderer and while I can’t change every ones mind, my child’s murder would not go unpunished.

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    • Defending Truth
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:27am

      I’m glad to see the father stand up on this one. The abortion issue has become too much about the woman and not enough about the father. Good for him to exercise his free speech right to make the very valid point that abortion does in fact, affect the father.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:48am

      Maybe people should try marriage counseling and marriage instead engaging in fornication. he unfortunately had to claims to her decision.
      My doctors ask for both spouses signature before doing a vasectomy.
      Now, I know abortion clinics have no ethics, but without his “papers‘ he’s got nuthin.
      Sad, the wages of his sin was death/murder/holocaust of his child.’

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 8:49am

      Ugh, forgive my typos.
      he had NO claims to her decision
      Many doctors- not my doctors………

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    • fangbanger
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:14am

      i dont see what case they have. the ex gf is nevermentioned by name. nor is his name on the bilboard. really do not see why this is in court.pretty open and shut if you ask me

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:25am

      Where was her name on the board? How was her privacy violated? What if he had multible prego girl friends. Sounds like someone is feeling a bit guilty about their decission to have a “miscarriage”.

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    • markamerica
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:32am

      You people who claim to be pro-life need to stiffen your spines. Sorry, but this is idiotic. The guy has a right to speak his mind. He has a right to speak out against what he considers murder. He has that right.

      Somebody mentions that he has no legal right to say anything because he wasn’t married to her. Newsflash: He wouldn’t have had any more legal right had he been married to her.

      None.

      Here’s the problem, and it’s one of inconsistent law: If the man can have no say in whether the child may be born, the woman should have no claim to support for the child.

      You want to restore the institution of marriage and restore families? Let the scenario have its proper natural consequences.

      Marriage is an institution created for one vital purpose: To create legitimacy for children resulting from the union. That’s the only reason government should have any factual, legal interest in marriage.

      As for this case, he has every right to make his appeal to the world. She has no claim to privacy. The moment she told him she was pregnant, and that she was going to abort the baby, the notion of ‘privacy’ died. It was no longer private.

      Mark

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    • Itchee Dryback
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:38am

      Why DOESN’T the man have a say in the decision? He doesn’t want a child and the woman does, he is one the hook for child support..in effect, the woman is making a long term decision (longer than 9 months) for him.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:50am

      I’ve seen much tackier things presented by the left. I don’t see a problem with this at all.

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    • kindling
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:29am

      I like his message a lot. He should have used a different man in the picture, keep it generic. He used his own image as an insult on his ex, but the message about fathers getting no say as to letting their children live should have been the focus. Right message, wrong delivery.

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    • dnnyshdy
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 10:50am

      I se nothing wrong with it.It doesn‘t have the womans name on it so it’s just a pro-life ad.

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    • doodad
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:04pm

      @ smithclar3nc3: Very well said. This isn’t just a “liberal” mindset either because ALL political sides have been conditioned to worship “motherhood.“ Yeah this guy has a right to be pissed because government has told him ”You have a ‘right’ to pay this woman child support and see your child whenever she wants you to. Other than that, go eff yourself! YOU’RE AT HEEEEERRRRR MERCY!!!! BWAH HAAAAHAHHAAAAHAAHAAAAAA (evil laugh for emphasis)!!!!!”

      Since women have the “right” to decide whether or not she wants to be a parent, a man should be able to do the same. Please don’t say men can sign away their rights, because though true, a judge can still hold him liable for child support. Hell, even if the child is proven NOT to be a man’s and the woman lied to him to wrench child support from him, he can’t get his money back from the beeyotch, but in some cases KEEP PAYING for the kid he didn’t make! Our government needs to stop coddling women at the expense of men.

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    • Elena2010
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 12:39pm

      How can you invade privacy if the woman’s name is not even mentioned?

      If she’d kept her mouth shut, only a few friends would have known. But NOW the whole world knows!

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 2:51pm

      He DOES have the right to speak up if his child was aborted and even if the sign is offensive to even a lot of people, the NM right to life people need to get into another line of work if they cower down and retreat just because some people find it offensive. Also, if the mother did have a miscarriage, I have never in over 20 years of medical experience seen a father accuse the woman of having an abortion just because she miscarried. I have seen men that have blamed the woman for miscarryng and the men be broken because of it as well but not accusing a woman of abortion for a miscarriage.

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on June 7, 2011 at 9:57pm

      No doubt the man has very right to do what he did and the woman has no logical case because she isn’t named and would therefore have to violate her own privacy inorder to claim offense.

      Nevertheless, I’m not sure this is a good advertisement for the pro-life cause and I‘m more certain this isn’t a good course for him personally if he wants to move on with his life and find a loving wife. I can see a lot of stable women looking at that billboard and thinking, “No thanks, too much baggage”. But I could be wrong about that. Lord knows I haven’t yet figured women out completely.

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    • Down2TheC
      Posted on June 8, 2011 at 12:23am

      She’s not named or pictured… how is that an invasion of her private life? If she‘ just STFU she wouldn’t be known.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on June 8, 2011 at 2:19am

      “Yep… this idiot makes everyone who is against abortions look like nut-jobs”
      …as opposed to the ‘normal’ non nut-job anti-abortionists…? Where are they hiding at?

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