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Jim Wallis Defends ‘Liberal’ Nuns Against Catholic Church: ‘From a Biblical Point of View’ the Vatican May Be Wrong

On the surface, an unlikely figure is coming to the defense of American nuns who are under fire from the Vatican for supposed liberalism and anti-Church doctrine — leftist evangelical preacher Jim Wallis. Considering the alleged leftist tilt many of the sisters have embraced, it becomes a bit clearer why Wallis has a vested interest in ensuring that the nuns continue their work, uninterrupted.

Jim Wallis Defends Nuns & Condemns the Vatican | Leadership Conference of Women Religious

Last week, The Blaze told you about the full-scale overhaul that the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), the largest group representing the majority of U.S. nuns, would be undergoing. The announcement that interventions would be sought by the Vatican and Catholic Bishops was made following allegations that the group has embraced sentiments that contradict church teaching — specifically when it comes to abortion, homosexuality and other related issues.

(Related: Vatican Orders Overhaul of U.S. Nun Group Over Liberal Stances on Sexuality & Abortion)

Now, the ultra-progressive Wallis, a fan of the Occupy movement and an individual who believes wholeheartedly in the redistribution of wealth, is coming to the nuns’ defense. In an article for the Huffington Post, he outlines the reasons he’s defends the LWWR and condemns the Vatican’s approach to dealing with the alleged liberal streak among the female faith leaders:

The Vatican’s approach to its concerns, to say the least, is quite regrettable. Condemnation and control were chosen over conversation and dialogue. Quite honestly, do most of us believe, or even most Catholics believe, that the bishops are the only “authentic teachers of faith and morals?”

The sisters may be the most positive face of the Catholic Church today, and they are keeping people in the Church who would have given up on the all-male hierarchy long ago. These women are often the ones at the core of Jesus’ ministry, building relationships with the poor and vulnerable and most concretely offering the love of God. If you had a referendum on whom the best faith and moral teachers are in many local communities and parishes around the country, it would likely be the women who are now under attack. That is the sad situation here and the serious mistake being made by the Vatican.

Jim Wallis Defends Nuns & Condemns the Vatican | Leadership Conference of Women ReligiousAside from the bizarre notion that a leftist, non-Catholic preacher would be providing guidance for how the Vatican should be handling its own teachings, Wallis’ commentary provides a lens into his political attachment to the women. He goes on to call them “among the most faithful in peace marches and non-violent protest of our nation’s endless wars.”

Wallis also notes that the nuns have been at the core of the Sojourners’ social justice supporters and subscribers (Sojourners is Wallis’ liberal Christian group and media outlet). Here’s more from his comments on the matter:

The Church is very concerned about these sisters losing focus on abortion. But, most I know still feel abortion is a terrible moral tragedy and do whatever they can to reduce them. Their approach, however, is to support low-income women, which actually reduces abortion, instead of mostly legislative strategies that could just push abortions into back alleys. And perhaps the sisters would also rather minister to gay and lesbian people with the love of Christ instead of just telling them they are wrong and unacceptable.

When the Vatican said that issues like poverty are more important to the sisters than issues like sexuality, they are probably right. But from a biblical point of view, the sisters may be right and the Vatican wrong. The Bible is much clearer on the Christian imperative to serve the poor and stand for justice than it is on same-sex marriage or exactly when full human life begins. I, for one, miss the leadership of Catholic bishops like the late Joseph Cardinal Bernardin who taught a “consistent ethic of life” and a “seamless garment” that defends life and dignity wherever it is threatened, from abortion on demand to poverty, the death penalty, and nuclear weapons.

Wallis concluded the piece by saying that he’s “got their back now” and that he, among others, will support the sisters through the Vatican’s continued assessment of their work. You can read Wallis’ full commentary here.

Comments (96)

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  • Joshua7
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:26pm

    Worshipping goverment is just as bad as worshipping the mammon of unrighteousness.

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    • Kaoscontrol
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:30pm

      Look closely at the end of WALLIS’ NOSE (in the top photo), it clearly resembles a tiny rear end. If you listen to what he says it proves the tip of his nose isn’t the only rear above his shoulders.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:13pm

      If one night i dreamed what Satan would look like. He would look like a wolf in sheeps clothing

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    • db321
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Just remember Judaism does not need Christianity in order to exist – Christianity could not exhist without Judaism. The Jewish people are the apple of Gods Eye, and God warned us, What you do to Israel – God would do to you.

      So if you want to get voted our of Heaven and Eternity – go ahead vote for a President that is going to try to destroy Israel – Obama will never succeed at wiping Israel off the face of the Earth – God will see to that!

      Obama is just trying to see how many good Christian voters he can get to turn on the God and follow him! Just remember – your vote is your deed. You will be judge for every word and deed in you life.

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    • creepshow
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 6:06am

      Reverend Jim looks like a playground stalker to me.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on April 28, 2012 at 1:48pm

      DB321… What you posted is not germane to the story.

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  • horsefeathers99
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:26pm

    Jim Wallis………pushing his radical social justice view on all Christians.

    I was disappointed when O’rielly had Executive director James Salt of Catholics United on his show and did NOT explain that he represents a very radical group.
    This is a marginal group and not what the majority of Catholics believe.

    They distort the teachings of Christ to their own way of thinking. They promoted the protest of Paul Ryan speaking at Georgetown University.
    I pray they come to their senses.

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  • fastfacts1
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:19pm

    Jim Wallis is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was actually and atheist activist. He would be siding either with Muslims or atheists before real Christians.

    Did you see the Muslim protest clash with the atheist protesters yesterday. It is quite the seen, I thought there would be violence: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2012/apr/atheists_chant_muslims.html

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:33pm

      There will be violence. It is all in the black bloc/ anarchists / International Far Left/ Democrat local franchise , planned agenda. Almost wonder if that was one of the reasons for the Hoodie March . The anarchists love to wear hoodies with their face masks. Anarchist chic…

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:17pm

    Check out these “Nuns”. This is anathama! God has it ALL under control…This is the “falling away” the bible talks about.
    https://lcwr.org/social-justice/resolutions-to-action

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  • rsanchez1
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:13pm

    Yeah, a leftist evangelical preacher really has any authority to tell the Catholic Church how to do its job.

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  • South Philly Boy
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:10pm

    The Nuns ought to quit the Church and join him

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  • Southern Rebel
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:06pm

    I‘ll challenge that idiot Jim Wallis anyday on what the truth of the word of God states verses what he ’wants’ it to be.
    He certainly doesn’t have the authority by the Lord to spead the lies he does, but he’ll certainly pay the full penalty for doing so.

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  • welovetheUSA
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:06pm

    This guy is a toad….he should be packing up his bags like the rest……….200 more days of these communist idoits…………………..Vote

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  • quasar1070
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:05pm

    Jim Wallis reminds me of the side show freak Marshall Applewhite who convinced his followers the mother ship was drawing near earth to deliver them to ‘Heavens Gate’. Of course they had to commit mass suicide to reach Nirvana. I doubt spiritual poo-bah Wallis finds this behavior too bizarre and is probably closer philosophically to heavens gate than traditional Christian doctrine

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  • Windsong
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:56pm

    Mr. Wallis is assuming that all Catholics are like nuns, who take a vow of celibacy and a life of poverty. They live in a small room with no amenities other than indoor plumbing. Generally they live in a convent together and most are teachers.
    In all my years of life, I’ve rarely seen nuns grab headlines for political reasons. Politicians can turn it in to such, but the nuns were generally trying to secure food, shelter or education for children. And, when Catholics disagreed with said nuns, it wasn‘t called a ’war on nuns’.
    Nuns live a life that most people could not adapt to easily. So, when Catholics see the nuns anywhere begin to defy the Church, then Catholics believe it is time for those nuns to hang up their habits and go to work for Mr. Wallis.
    Sorry, but I don’t want to hear about nuns fighting for something they know nothing about…or so their vows say. I have no respect for a nun who wishes to become a diva or a rock star. Leave the Church and leave us to our prayers.
    Mr. Wallis, the Catholic people are not sheep, which you seem to believe. They know right from wrong, and they know Marxists when they see them. That doesn‘t mean we stilll don’t pray for a man such as yourself, but we certainly don’t view you as a man of God.
    As for the nuns, they have outlived their usefulness to the souls of the Catholics who once respected them. Go forth and have a good life. Always remember, being a nun is a life YOU chose.

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  • momsense
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:47pm

    Maybe that’s because the Catholic Church is still preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ , not the gospel of Karl Marx, unlike you.

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  • Git-R-Done
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:44pm

    Jim, Jesus defined marriage as between a man and a woman in Matthew 19:4-6 and Mark 10:6-9.

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    • JediKnight
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:21pm

      Don’t forget that the bible defines it in Genesis. Jesus was simply reiterating with the Father had originally taught.

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  • stashu394
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:41pm

    This raised Catholic, fallen away, and born again Catholic cares not what Jim Wallis has to say about anything, let alone his opinions of Catholic Church

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  • lukerw
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:39pm

    Christ laid out His Covenant (Contract) as… If you testify for Me, I will testify for you to GOD… which is an Individual Contract… not a Collective/Communist/Governmental Contract!

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:56pm

      @ lukerw

      Your first words about COVENANT was key! A Covenant is so much more than just a “contract.” A covenant is a type of oath, and God’s covenant first with the Jewish people through Abraham, and then to all who will accept the New Covenant through His Son as you say is a personal covenant, not a “collective one” or a “social gospel” covenant.

      God’s covenant through His Son, The Word, is a Life-Giving Covenant which when embraced will become more and more clear through the guidance of the Holy Spirit (God’s Spirit) which will live in those who become members of God’s Covenant Family.

      Families must have rules and discipline makes sure that there is unity of purpose within the Family of God. “We know from Hebrews 12:6 that the Lord disciplines his children: ‘For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.’ In 1 Corinthians 5:12-13, we see that he passes this responsibility on to the church family: ‘It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.” ‘ ” (Fairchild, ABOUT.COM).

      As Jesus told us, “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 1:40am

      The question then becomes, how does Christianity define “Me” in other words who is Jesus? What does it mean to follow Jesus? I am SNOOOP1E, just knowing my name and acknowledging that I am posting on this Blog doesn’t mean that you “believe” in me……or does it? If you “follow” my postings is that the same as “following” me? What does it truly mean to “BELIEVE” in Jesus? If you believe that Jesus actually lived and died and rose again is that sufficient to inherit eternal life? What if I told you that anyone who say’s they “know” Jesus but doesn’t keep His commands is a liar and the truth is not in him would that upset you? Think about it, saying you “know” Jesus or that you “Believe” in Jesus is more than just acknowledging His existence, even the demons do that and they tremble.
      James 2:14-27.

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  • Donttredonme
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:37pm

    In the same places the Bible forbids homosexuality it also explicitly says eating shellfish and wearing linen and wool at the same time are equal sins…..you cant pick and choose..

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    • Git-R-Done
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:45pm

      It also forbids homosexuality in the New Testament while not forbidding eating shellfish and wearing linen and wool. Do keep up.

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:20pm

      GIT: “Done” well !

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:23pm

      Actually, taken in context not eating shellfish from the “seas” around the Holy Land was a wise command! Those “seas” were really sllightly more than lakes, and the shellfish that might have lived there would have ben quite polluted!

      As far as not wearing “mixed fibers,” again there were reasons for this. Wool garments wear one way, linen totally differently. Linen threads will cut through wool as it wears in a very short time! Again, an appropriate law in its time.

      Men not “laying down” with men (and/or women with women) must have additional reasons beyond those we discovered with AIDS, the breakdown of family units, the nonreproductive result of this type of self-indulging behavior!

      God seems to KNOW the laws of “nature,” maybe because he MADE THEM!!! Since Jesus came, “not to abolish The Law” (Ten Commandments) but to “fulfill it,“ and since He said that the Law and adherence to it was to be written on our ”hearts” not just in our minds, He, as God’s Word, must have known something about The Law too. In addition, Jesus summed up The Law into two which were all encompassing–”Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and spirit“ and ”love your neighbor as yourself.“ Through this ”shorthand” of law, Jesus removed the need for all the Pharisaical type laws that had been added to God’s Law.

      Good try with the “linen/wool” quote one more time. . .

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    • Juniemoon
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:40pm

      God didn’t want his chosen people eating things that ate the dead, he wanted them healthy and (set apart) from other customs. You are what you eat, so to day, Pork can cause worms and they eat fecal matter, shrimp eat dead, etc…
      The wool and linen were set apart for the Priestly Garments, only for them.
      Homosexuality and bestiality are abominations to God, he gave the commandment in the beginning to be fruitful and multiply. Men with women, men who are with men are spilling the seed, destroying the generations, same as when Cain slew Abel and his bloods cried out, his generations that will never be cried out to God through the blood spilled on the ground, same as when Judah‘s brothers spilled their seed on the ground instead of carrying on the dead brother’s seed with his wife.
      You know it’s always a good thing to actually try to understand why God did the things he did, by studying and connecting dots he also will reveal those kind of things if you’re willing to understand the book is a Jewish book, not a Gentile one. Learn their customs, and find a good Messianic study group. You can learn these things and more on the web if you look up Hebrew Roots, El Shaddai Ministries. You’ll end up knowing more than most pastors know, because they don‘t seem to be able to figure out that’s not a Gentile book.

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    • Donttredonme
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:44pm

      I’m pretty sure Christ came NOT to do away with the laws of Moses….again you cats think you can pick and choose… what about : , “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord.”

      Leviticus 19:19 reads, “You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.”

      Deuteronomy 23:1 reads (this is the God’s Word translation, which spells it out better), “A man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off may never join the assembly of the Lord.”

      Oh, and the next verse says that if you’re a bastard, the child of a bastard… or even have a great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchild of a bastard, you can’t come to church or synagogue either. Deuteronomy 23:2 reads, “No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the Lord; none of his descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall enter the assembly of the Lord.”

      seems like some of you are out of luck..

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:16pm

      Donttred: Also, think you ” don’t know what you are talking about ! ” Christ came to fulfill the the prophesies. And the apostles did write their testimony and they called it the NEW Testament. I can tell by your attitude that you are hung up on the Old Testament for proof of your arrogant atheism. Sorry you are so angry and so intent on looking for reasons to throw your verbal rocks. Your name sums up your attitude. Sorry you are so hostile. People will play with that anger and use you like a tool for their own ends. Please be careful.

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    • bigspike
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 6:39am

      i just LOVE it when atheists try to back up their political positions by cherry-picking passages from a book they consider ‘nonsense’…the fact that, in doing so, they inevitably make a mockery of their self-proclaimed ‘intellectal prowess’ is just icing on the cake

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    • memyselfandi
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:07am

      @DON’T TREAD: Understand this… The Bible as we have it today is bound together in a single “book” for the sake of convenience but originally they were scrolls which were separated into 7 parts.
      1 The Law

      2 The Prophets

      3 The four fold Gospel of Jesus Christ; (i.e. the fulfillment of the Law and the partial fulfillment of the prophesies of the “gospel of the Kingdom”)

      4 The Apostle; (the 13 writings of the apostle Paul and possibly Hebrews as he was recognized as the Chief Apostle of the Lord)

      5 The book of Acts; (seen as the transition from the “gospel of the Kingdom” offered to Israel under Judaism and preached by Jesus and the 12, to the “gospel of the grace of God” which was revealed to the Apostle Paul in the desert of Arabia over a period of 3 years and it is the outline for the way Christianity is to practiced today.

      6 Revelation; foretelling future events.

      7 The writings of “other Apostolic men”.

      If you follow Jesus teachings during His earthly ministry to the Jews, you are commanded to keep the Law in its entirety, sell all you have and rely totally on God for your wellbeing.

      If you follow the teachings of Jesus as revealed to Paul you will see that the Law of Moses was fulfilled by the Lord and some of them were lifted/cleansed by the blood of Christ. Therefore we are now permitted to eat pork and shellfish, and wear mixed clothing, but sexual sin, the “lust of the flesh” has not been done away with and is still co

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    • memyselfandi
      Posted on April 27, 2012 at 10:09am

      cont… sexual sin, the “lust of the flesh” has not been done away with and is still considered an abomination before God!!!

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  • ireport uderide
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:33pm

    Pope Benedict is only doing to these Nuns what John Paul did to the radical leftist/Marxist Jesuits in Central and South America. Stop teaching and reforming from the Communist manifesto and start teaching and reforming from the Christian/Biblical doctrine handed down to us.

    If Pope B. wants to clear house with these leftist infiltraitors (spelling is correct) then God Bless him.

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:24pm

      Apparently Pope Paul missed Georgetown too !

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:20pm

      @ barberb

      Don’t write off Georgetown yet–the Church has been around for a long time and will get to them.

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  • slr4528
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:33pm

    So the Nuns are Catholic-In-Name-Only….no wonder there are so many so called Catholics think nothing about aborting a child if these women are representing the church. The Catholic church needs to clean house and take a strong stand on this issue or there will be the Catholic church will be Catholic in name only. It will be just like Reverend Wallis’s brothels!!!!!

    My aunt is a nun and she would never support abortion or same sex marriage within the Catholic church.

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  • geomann
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:31pm

    The Bible doesn’t say being poor is a sin. In fact, it says in Matthew 26:11 that it is more important to worship the savior than to sell expensive perfume to feed the poor. “The poor will always be with us…”

    I think it is more important to follow his teachings, than to be friends with everyone. It is our job as followers of Him to speak the truth. If the seed lands on furtile soil, it will flourish.

    I’m not a Catholic either, by the way, so I think each person needs to decide each of the issues for themselves. If the Catholic church wants to discommunicate/reprimand the nuns for their decisions, that is their choice.

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:39pm

      Funny thing to me is that Christ’s message and mission was all about spiritual matters. Feeding man’s soul . Think these , probably well-intentioned, liberals have lost sight of this fact. All of the emphasis is on man’s material needs rather than his spiritual needs. “They not what they do.”

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    • momsense
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:49pm

      The word you seek is excommunicate. used for very serious infractions of church doctrine.

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:22pm

      Oops. I confess. Made an error of omission ! Should read : they KNOW not what they do. Mea culpa.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:18pm

      I would rather be starving to death and know the Lord than be a full-rich worldy atheist/Marxsist
      “If I boast, I boast in the Lord”, to God be the glory..
      “Man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord.”

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  • barber2
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:31pm

    Of course one should care for the poor but not to blindly give one’s allegiance to Big Daddy government. Christ’s message was to love your neighbor as yourself and to love God above ALL things. Big Brother was never mentioned. ( the Roman government‘s involvement in Christ’s death was a classic example of Big Brother in action ! And look what the Romans did to the early Christians)

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  • MBA
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:24pm

    I’m sure that the sisters forgot that they also took a vow of poverty and silence. If you sign up for job and take a “vow” you should live up to it. And they don’t need a liberal goof telling them otherwise.

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    • barber2
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:33pm

      and don’y forget that uncomfortable obedience vow they took !

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:21pm

      Tell your preachers they can say whatever they want in church regardless of their 5013c status and they better start talking if they really love the Lord! These nuns are supporting Occupy and other issues. Obviously Rev Wright and others say alot! Come on preachers get involved! Why is it that only the liberal preachers get involved…are they scared????

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  • momrules
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:23pm

    Spiritual advice from Jim Wallis? You might as well take spiritual advice from an atheist.

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:18pm

    I’m sorry ole Jim, but you are so lacking in any real theology that it is sad. You are too small a potato to take on the Vatican. God didn’t even want men to spill their seed so He would never want that seed that has united in a womb to be destroyed. Conception is a miracle that we share with God and His creative power. It should not be minimized by marxists like you.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:16pm

    Wallis is wrong about same sex co-habitation and homosexuality.
    The bible is very very clear regarding this matter – Its an abomination – period
    It states this fact in several locations – both Old and New Testament.
    The bible is also very clear on helping the poor – again in both New and Old testament.

    One is not weighted than the other – You should obey both!

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  • blackyb
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:13pm

    Wallace is not the Pope. Furthermore, Wallace is another leftist progressive from hell. He is on the side of evil. Man‘s laws do not supercede God’s Law. Here is another one wanting to make God into his own image. These people need to quit intermingling politics with Religion and God our Father out of His righfful place. Some people live for other people when they should be living to please God.

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    • orkydorky
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:01pm

      I heard Wallace was leading a new cult, “The Obamanites”, which uses Alinski as their choice of doctrines.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 7:08pm

    That Jim Wallis has always seemed very creepy to me. I’m not Catholic, so I’ll defer to those who are. I’m just a plain ole believer in Christ of which I am eternally grateful.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:07pm

      Wallis reminds me of that creepy old guy that watches nickolodeon and plays pokemon with all the kids. But hey, who wouldn’t take creepy old guys advice, especially on spiritual matters. Can he give absolution for demonic sins?

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    • hillbillyinny
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:41pm

      Tron, creepy he is and WRONG HE IS TOO!

      Actually, the five year plan put forward to the Nun’s Association is a “conversation” between the Vatican and the wayward members of this organization!

      There is much about Church discipline in the Bible including Matthew 18:15-17 which is a three-step plan to confront sinners in the Church.

      Mary Fairchild writes in an article in ABOUT.COM, “Church discipline is meant specifically for believers involved in overt sin. Scripture gives particular emphasis to Christians engaged in. . . those creating discord or strife between members of the body of Christ, THOSE SPREADING FALSE TEACHINGS, and believers in OUTSPOKEN REBELLION TO THE SPIRITUAL AUTHORITIES APPOINTED BY GOD IN THE CHURCH.” (Emphasis mine.)

      Rev. (?) Wallis might night like the Roman Catholic Churches form of discipline, but it is following Biblical authority and almost 2000 of historical authority.

      Maybe, those who chose not to embrace the changes as worked through with the Church, can form (another!) new church with Mr. Wallis and stand for or worship however they deem OK with them!

      As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord God through the Church founded on his Word, Jesus Christ, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

      May His Peace be upon all of Good Will.

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