Jim Wallis Touts Faith Study: Care for ‘Social & Economic Justice’ Increases With Bible Reading
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Rev. Jim Wallis
Prominent religious figures Dr. Richard Land and Rev. Jim Wallis appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” to discuss their take on faith and politics in the 2012 electoral cycle.
Land, among other proposals, said that America needs to end no-fault divorce and that it’s time to tell men that they can “no longer get away with extended adolescence.” His focus was very clearly upon the importance of upholding marriage and personal responsibility in adult relationships.
Following Land’s comments, host Joe Scarborough asked Wallis, “What do you think Americans are going to be focusing on when it comes to religion and politics?”
Wallis responded, “It would be a powerful thing if Christians could focus together not on their own interests but on other peoples’.” This is an interesting statement, considering the divisive nature of some of Wallis’ work. That said, the notion that Christians should be involved in assisting their fellow man is a tenet that most followers of Jesus Christ would likely embrace.
In discussing why there has been a change in the way that Christians interact with the world, Scarborough discussed the fact that it seems like the faithful may be changing their outreach methods.
Believers apparently now realize that the benefit of reaching out to help their fellow man rather than merely handing our fliers (although some would argue that evangelicals have always been involved in assisting their fellow man, while still engaging in activities that would spread the gospel).
In response to this, Wallis said, “It is the globalization. Evangelicals — young people are global now. Plus, they’re reading their Bibles. A new Baylor study shows, the more you read the bible, the more you end up caring about social and economic justice.”
The Blaze has covered the Baylor study that Wallis cites. As we reported, the study did, indeed, seem to indicate that reading the Bible daily helps American Christians become more concerned about poverty, civil liberties and conservation. Among the findings, David Briggs writes:
The likelihood of Christians saying it is important to actively seek social and economic justice to be a good person increased 39 percent with each jump up the ladder of the frequency of reading Scripture, from reading the Bible less than once a year to no more than once a month to about weekly to several times a week or more.
It’s important to note, though, that Wallis’ views on the “social and economic justice” include support for the redistribution of wealth and greater government intervention. In fact, a more recent study (also from Baylor), entitled, “The Values and Beliefs of the American Public,” finds that those who believe that God has a plan for their lives tend to be less supportive of government programs.
So, while the Bible may, indeed, command people to be more giving, there‘s no indication that Wallis’ views on the economy mesh with this sentiment. Watch Wallis and Land discuss these issues, below:
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garyM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:33pmcece959….I see you noticed that Jim Wallace used one of Obama’s favorite words too… NOTION!! LOL
Report Post »getalong
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 6:14pmI would love to take this phony on with Bible in hand. He wouldn’t last through one verse.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 7:12pmOh, Jim… can you feel the heat? It won’t be long, you anti-Christ fraud before you will spend an eternity in fire with your master. What a dope!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 9:54pmRoman Catholic Cult gained economic success by forbidding the reading of the Holy Bible.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 10:46pmDoes anyone else think this guy looks like Satan
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:45pmDoes Wallis confuse the Communist Manifesto with the Bible?
Report Post »Have Communists ever treated people equally or given them equal property and wealth regardless of their contribution to society, their health, or their societal status? Did any dictator ever suffer extreme poverty like the people they’re supposedly helping?
Did any dictator ever die a violent death like many of the people that… scratch that one. ;-)
poverty.sucks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:10amA common knee-jerk response among many Christians to mention of the Mosaic Law is to dismiss the subject since we are “no longer under the Law” (Rom. 6:14). Yet 9 of the 10 commandments are confirmed in the New Testament. And if “law” means the use of commands with content, then there is “law” in the Epistles, too: the “law of Christ” (Gal. 6:2). Obviously there’s a difference between commands addressed to Israel and those addressed to the Church. Israel was a mono-cultural nation. The Church is a multi-cultural, supra-national entity. And several other factors are involved such as the relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Nevertheless, the Mosaic Law is a historically unique thing in human history because it reveals what a direct reign of God over a nation would look like.[1] The implications of the 10 Commandments for every area of society are fleshed out in detail. The Decalogue and its implications show what life ought to look like if it is lived compatibly with God’s character and design of human society. While some imperatives call for a peculiar behavior on Israel’s part to dramatize theological truths to the world (e.g., the “ceremonial” commands), they are neither arbitrary nor irrelevant to the modern world.
Here are some important facts we Christians need to know in order to open conversations with our neighbors as well as to influence our culture politically. Outside of revelation through ancient Israel, including chiefly the Mosa
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:10am1.There is no source for belief in meaningful progress in history; paganism was inevitably cyclic (modern paganisms like Darwinism and Marxism have stolen their idea of “progress” from the Bible—the idea of progress doesn’t follow from their atheistic starting points).
2.There is no enduring order for social structures such as individual responsibility, marriage, and family—structures implemented at creation.
3.There is no basis for defining “social justice” or the role of civil government (paganism has historically always resulted in tyranny and destruction of the created social structures).
Without these vital truths on which to base our hopes, labors, and social policies, economic and political misery are inevitable. Revelational information from God saves financial and cultural costs of experimentation. Rather than flail around trying to find ways out of economic decline, why not dig out the superior wisdom and understanding to be found in the Mosaic Law (Deut 4:5-8)? Economic prosperity and political freedom in parts of western civilization owe their existence to it. A culture emphasizing individual responsibility, integrity, productive labor, strong marriages and families, and civil government bound by transcendent law will always triumph over its pagan competitors as I have pointed out recently.
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:10amWallis uses the “new international version” bible which was written by socialist in the 1970′s to incude “social justice”
It is a PARAPHRASED translation, NOT a literal one like all the Bible’s before it.
They claimed they were just trying to make it more understandable. but they changed and rearraged the verses to give them new and different meaning.
Actual Christians use King James or before……literally translated word for word from the originals
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:41amNoahic Covenant & Mosaic Law is Social Justice. Operate your family, business or government outside of those parameters and you’ll have hell to pay.
Report Post »microace
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:33pmBeware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:13pmMy thoughts exactly. Grievous wolves enter in not sparing the flock. This man is as Christian as Lucifer.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:57pmJIM WALLIS:
I am my brother’s keeper. Not the den of jackals in Washington D.C. Jesus did NOT preach his message to ROME saying, “Ceasar must uplift the poor and Herod must tax the rich to pay for health care.”
JESUS took it upon HIMSELF to uplift the downtrodden and heal the sick. He taught his followers to do likewise.
It is an INDIVIDUAL responsibility. THis is the FLAW with your twisted theology, and why it will be REJECTED by all who understand the Word of God.
You have played into the LIBERAL lazy apathetic “let the government do it for me” approach to personal responsibility. They will applaud you as long as you tickle their ears with the message that it is the GOVERNMENT’s responsibility. But they will turn on you with daggers and pitchforks on the day you dare confront them with a message of REPENTANCE and personal HOLINESS and responsibility/accountability to God.
We’re onto you, JIM.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 6:28pmMICROACE,
AMEN! AMEN! to what you said sir.
The problem is that “Morning Joe” did not ask Wallis which bible he was referring to.
Wallis’s true bible is “Rules for Radicals”written by Saul Alinsky!
I do not think that Wallis could recite something from Psalms from memory. I do not.
I DO think that Wallis could quote his true God Saul Alinsky ad nauseum.
Another post from Wonderland. Down is up. Up is down. We’re painting the roses red.
Report Post »As the Chesire Cat says,”We’re ALL mad here”.
Gonzo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:04amExactly. Wouldn‘t you like to see Wallis’ financial records? I bet he’s lining his pockets while he preaches socialism.
Report Post »AntipasMetochos
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:55amIndeed. “Even a fool, when silent, is thought wise” (Proverbs 17:28).
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:31pmJim Wallis, the Bible it says, “Judas hung himself”, in another place it says “Go ye and do likewise” However it doesn’t mean for anyone to hang themselves as Judas did. If you are going to form a “skip around theology” and not study the scripture in it’s entirety, you’ll be in error every time!. You and everyone else!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:13pmBe careful though when speaking about Judas because there is another Disciple Judas in the New Testament, and that one isn’t Judas Iscariot.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:14pmLOL well put.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:31pmAlright I know you are wondering. John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:33pmAnd that Judas was an Apostle also. Any guesses, anyone anyone?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:39pmI’m not just going to give you the answer. You have to fish for it.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:57pmYeah that’s what I figured. Most of you quote the Bible to your convenience or to attempt to stab at someone, but you‘re really just hypocrites who don’t want to actually know truth.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 6:00pmJust like I heard people say, “I think Reagan is the Antichrist” then they said the same thing about Bush, then Bush, then Clinton, and then Obama.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 8:58pmJudas hung himself and his guts bursted open too, same Judas Iscariot! the hanging took place first, the bursting open took place when the sun had a few days to swell his dead body!.
Another Judas was:
Acts 15:22
Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
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Report Post »sbenard
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:27pmSocial justice is tyranny disguised as charity. It is based upon FORCE, not love! It is the societal violation of “thou shalt not covet”, and “thou shalt not steal”. And since it violates God’s commandments, now we all know from whence Wallis and his complicit commies get their inspiration!
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:21pmAgreed! One cannot be a practicing Christian and a sympathetic Socialist. The two are wholly incongruent fundamentally on the matter of free will or choice (back to the war in heaven).
Report Post »God’s greatest gift bestowed upon mankind is the same one required for us to come back to his presence. A choice. He could of forced us back to Heaven but that is not Hisplan. He wants us to choose to come back to Him.
We leave in the place designated for the human family to explore this “notion” of freedom. A placed prepared for people to exercise their choice freely without persecution or reservation. A place where people could arrive at it according to the dictates of their conscience.
The reason why our focused national leaders refer to it as the “last best hope of mankind”.
They’re right! It is…. and a loving Heavenly Father planned it that way and we are the beneficiaries of the gift.
planeboy
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:50amsbenard…..Great post…move to the head of the class you got that 100% correct….
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:23pmWallis gets his inspiration from the wrong source. It ain’t divine, either!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:31pmNope it is infernal.
Report Post »cece959
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:22pm“That said, the notion that Christians should be involved in assisting their fellow man is a tenet that most followers of Jesus Christ would likely embrace.”
Assisting, yes. Giving them everything you have because they feel they deserve the fruits of your labor…I don’t think so. The Bible also says that the poor will always be among us. I think God knows the difference between people who genuinely need help, and those blood-sucking leeches of today.
Report Post »americanfirst
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:13pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwqaKAUjhxc
maybe the good doctor could check this…
Parasites are devouring the host culture!
Real Christianity isn’t intended to compel the individual to “care” for social justice – rather to take “personal ownership” of their lives and to invite others and encourage others to do the same by understanding their divine natures, feeling a deep sense of gratitude for Christ‘s atoning sacrifice and feeling a deep compulsion and responsibility to seek to do God’s will for our lives. When one “acts” upon that idea or “notion” then their exercising their faith (thus putting themselves in holy places) and the conditioning process of habitually submitting yourself to this is premise, this “notion” is edifying and exhalting.
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 5:16pmNotice how they all of a sudden LIKE religion? When they can twist it to mean, steal your neighbor’s goods, then all of sudden they embrace it. But tell them to actually practice it and pray in public, and it’s separation of church and state time
Report Post »getalong
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 11:35pmJesus asked the man sitting by the pool gate for 38 years if he really wanted to get up. Enough said. Jesus expected there be an effort on the part of the person receiving charity otherwise it is just empty charity because their is no end result of restoration of dignity. Socialism breeds unexceptional human beings who live mediorce lifestyles. The concept of communism gnaws away at the value of human life.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:05pmWe as individuals are supposed to help the poor and needy. We are supposed to help them without taking away their diginity and self respect. When my Father was put in a nursing home, for a month of two, Mother had to have assistance from the government. There was NOTHING kind or merciful about the way she was treated by her government agency. Government can never replace what we are supposed to do, because they don’t understand love, kindness and mercy……..only dominance!!!
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:11pmIt is awful that this happened to your Mom. Very sad. But surely you see that this is the fault of the individual human beings she had to deal with, probably frustrated petty bureaucrats, and not the fault of the government, which, after all, did provide the assistance your Mom needed at that time.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:20pm“which, after all, did provide the assistance your Mom needed at that time.”
did you ever think that if the government didn‘t take so much from us to ’assist’ other people, then maybe we’d have enough to take care of our own families?
oh and that ‘assistance’ is SO helpful isn’t it?? detroit is just a field of dreams..yeah thats guvmint care for ya!!!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:25pmBaikunor…have you dealt with government people…most are anything but kind and generous!..I know when I go to the DMV…USPS..or God forbid the HHS…they treat you just like cattle!
Report Post »WSGAC
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:30pmVery true about dominance! But then you also have wolves in sheep’s clothing, like Jim Wallis, who use their psuedo pious concern for the poor to forward their agenda. Jim Wallis receives financial contributions from George Soros. If Wallis had any integrity…no, if he were indeed a follower of Christ he would not be holding his hand out to evil incarnate – George Soros.
Remember, there was one who was a member of Christ’s inner circle, the 12, who feigned concern for the poor when a woman poured costly perfume over Christ:
But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, “Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.” He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it. “Leave her alone,” Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial. You will always have the poor among you, but you will not always have me.”
Jim Wallis is a modern day Judas. Take those 30 silver coins to the bank, Wallis!
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:31pm[Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:11pm
It is awful that this happened to your Mom. Very sad. But surely you see that this is the fault of the individual human beings she had to deal with, probably frustrated petty bureaucrats, and not the fault of the government, which, after all, did provide the assistance your Mom needed at that time.]
What fool does not understand that when you place the government in charge of things, then the incentive to do well decreases. The incentive to treat people correctly decreases (think TSA and Drivers License offices).
What fool? Oh yeah, you, Baikonur, the foolish liberal troll.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:37pm@godlovinmom
Report Post »Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:25pm
‘Baikunor…have you dealt with government people…most are anything but kind and generous!..I know when I go to the DMV…USPS..or God forbid the HHS…they treat you just like cattle!’
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I agree with you. These workers really need a thorough course in customer service, and tangible punishment if they mistreat citizens whom it is their duty to help. This doesn’t mean, though, that the actual government programs that help people are wrong. The two are unrelated.
Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:02pmMakes perfect sense to me–unconditional brotherly love. I always thought that was the Christian ideal.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:18pm“Makes perfect sense to me–unconditional brotherly love. I always thought that was the Christian ideal.”
uh I missed where Jesus talked about taking money from people to make other people dependent, in order to control them…
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:24pmTo teach men to fish for themselves is brotherly love, but to fish for your brother is to hate them. That’s why Jesus came upon his Apostles and said “Come with me and I will make you fishers of men”, and Jesus didn’t say I will get fish for you.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:30pmMoreover, to fish for your brethren is to teach them the bad-wine, and to teach them to fish and with their struggles is the good-wine. And Jesus will stand on the shore-line and say “Children do you have any fish?” And while you struggle to make a catch, God will send down a little bread by saying “Cast your net over there.” Get it?
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:33pm[Baikonur
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:02pm
Makes perfect sense to me–unconditional brotherly love. I always thought that was the Christian ideal.]
The difference between wisdom and a liberal is the proper knowledge of what we can and should do that will actually help our brother. In the case of liberals, they would poor gasoline on a burning man.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:45pmBut see, men make the bad-wine, and then they demand – give me bread. But God doesn’t take commands, therefore what happens is God dumps his cup of wrath, which is getting baptized with water, and it washes away all the bad-wine, and the sobering feeling burns like the hottest sun.
Report Post »leader30m
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:01pmGod has a special place for Jim and his kind the will be rooming with Mao, Joe Stalin, and Adolf. A wolf in sheeps clothing is what Jim bo is and then the woodsmen came along and the wolf howled no more.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:01pmOne of the last people on earth to take biblical advice from. The others that spring to mind are Jerimiah Wright, Al Sharpton and Barack Obama.
Report Post »RabbiDRJerkins
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:36amYou forgot one of my favorites…. the “Reverand” Jesse Jackson.
Report Post »ROE-SMELLIN
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:01pmIn sharia law we have no fault divorce. My hairy smelly man can divorce me,
Report Post »beat me, make me wear a bag over my head, or even kill me, and it is never
his fault. Always my fault for being born a woman. I love being a muslime.
joe1234
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:21pm“Always my fault for being born a woman”
well there’s good in every culture….LOL
now get me a beer, and clean the kitchen…
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:00pmHas anyone point out to dragon stream Wallis that the whole reason Adam fell is because God scraped Adam from the dust before it began to rain, and Adam didn’t know the rain, and that’s why he fell? But that was by design, and Wallis isn’t God?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:57pmWallis is the author of lies and on judgment day he’ll stand before almighty God and make an accounting of his works,good luck jimmy, um don‘t bother getting an asbestos suit it’s way too hot where you‘re going and it won’t help you.
Report Post »mend54jc
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:42pmWe has Christians NOT we as a government. And you don’t just get to there Matt 25 that they are speaking of without that someone the are put down for as passing out the Tracks. We are a body of Christ all called to do our part in that body. So to put one ministry over another is just completely wrong. The most important thing is to preach the Gospel. That God so love the world that he gave his only son. That Jesus died for our sin was buried and on the three day rose again. And he wants a relationship with you.
You read throughout the bible what happens when Israel turned away from God and started serving other Gods. This isn’t about making sure the poor are feed and clothed. That is what happens when you are laying your life down and serving the LIVING GOD. The problem isn’t we need to feed people the problem is we have turned from feeding them the Gospel. We have become a people of self and how does that happen. By taking God out of everything in our Nation. We need to have more people hearing about God. More people passing out tracks. The bigger the church the more people there will be to feed the poor clothe them give them drink.
The church needs to get bigger not the government get bigger to help with this problem. Turn back to God ask for forgiveness. Stop asking man to step in and help ask God to step in and help. Like that saying “Let go and Let GOD” . The bible says the power of God is in the Gospel. That is the ONLY thing that will save us
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:55pmJust because you can read something it doesn’t mean you can understand it.
Understand?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:05pmAnd…. “Just because a statement may be true, it doesn’t make it a statement of Truth.”
Translation…. Yes, it is true that John said that but, that doesn’t make what he said True.
I don’t read the Bible anymore. No need to.
Report Post »nobull14
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:55pmwhat a major jerk off !!!!!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:55pmJim Wallis doesn’t know that understanding the Bible starts with being saved by the grace of God and receiving the Holy Spirit, without that everyone is in error, including Jim!
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:54pmIs he an idiot, The Lord never said Government or anyone else should make us take care of each other, only the Lord commands us Christians. He needs to read the end of Revelation 22;
“I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll”
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:52pmIt’s sad, but true that the poor will always be with us. This gumball video proves that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHDW7KAjYUY
What’s also sad, but true is the guy is nuts. The more money Americans can earn, the more they can help the needy. If America buys into globalization (United Nations Agenda 21), then the ENTIRE WORLD will live in poverty while the elite bankers/military machine owners laugh all the way to the bank.
Report Post »Vechorik
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 4:09pmThat earlier link was immigration, but THIS LINK IS THE GUMBALLS (immigration by the numbers shows poor will always be here (and that America will be poor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:51pmIt also increases if you drink enough booze, smoke a little funny weed and mostly – are just a little on the crazy side.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:50pmThe Bible touts Justice Justice. Not Social Justice and not Economic Justice.
There’s a big difference between Charity and Welfare.
Once again the libs are saying things to make peple feel better but actually getting them more and more dependent on gov’t as per their plan.
Report Post »jcasos
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:48pmYet again, this goes back to WHO should be helping the poor. I donate nearly 10% of my income to charity. I don’t remember Jesus (in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, or English) ever saying they should give more to the government so THEY help the poor. I thought it was Jesus who helped the poor. Otherwise, why didn’t Jesus work to give his income to the government?
Report Post »drkmagneto
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:48pmThis guy is more clueless than his disciple Darth Incestruous(Barry O). Always two there are, no more, no less! A master and an apprentice!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:47pmThe Bible is not anywhere close to what Wallis proclaims! He takes a scripture here and one over there and forms a theology, With that method come many false theologies!
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:46pmI wonder if open borders land had the guts to say anything to red wallis?
I’m bettin no….
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on November 3, 2011 at 3:45pm.
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