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Joel Osteen to Executive Produce Prequel to ‘Passion of the Christ’ About Jesus’ Mother

Joel Osteen to Executive Produce Mary Mother of ChristEarlier this month, news broke that Megapastor Joel Osteen will be executive producing what’s being dubbed the Biblical prequel to “The Passion of the Christ.” The film, entitled, “Mary Mother of Christ,” is going to be released in North America sometime in 2013.

(Related: Joel Osteen: ‘The Scripture Says That Being Gay Is a Sin’)

The movie, which is produced by Mary Aloe of Aloe Entertainment and Shawn Williamson of Bright Light Pictures, promises to be an intriguing project that will surely peak the interest of the faithful.

“Under the reign of terror of Herod the Great and against all odds, Mary and Joseph survive as young parents in one of the most treacherous times in history,” Aloe Entertainment writes on the company’s web site, going on to discuss Osteen’s executive production role. ”Minister Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church, the most prominent Christian Evangelical minister in the world, has signed on his first movie ever as Executive Producer with a massive marketing and promotion plan.”

Osteen, too, has talked about the project, providing a glowing description of Mary’s depiction in it.

“Mary is portrayed as a brave, faithful young woman who readily embraces her divine destiny regardless of the sacrifices and hardships she must endure,” Osteen said of the project‘s depiction of Jesus Christ’s mother.

Joel Osteen to Executive Produce Mary Mother of Christ

“The faith-based film will star Hollywood actors Camilla Belle as Mary, Peter O’Toole as Symeon, and Diogo Morgado as Joseph the carpenter,” reports The Christian Post.

The film will delve into Mary’s life, while highlighting the difficult issues the young woman faced. From handling the plights in her own youth to caring for her young son (up to the age of four), the film will provide a lens into the world of the Christian Savior’s mother.

ChristianRetailing.com has more about the intriguing project:

Rush joins actors Julia Ormond and Peter O’Toole in the movie, to be directed by Alister Grierson. The original screenplay for Mary, Mother of Christ was written by Benedict Fitzgerald (The Passion of The Christ) and Barbara Nicolosi, Variety said. Mary, Mother of Christ is produced by Mary Aloe of Aloe Entertainment and Shawn Williamson of Bright Light Pictures.

Besides Osteen, Mike Dolan and Ben Barton of Smithfield Street Productions, Alan Weinberger of the ASCII Group, the Samaritan Group and philanthropists Frank Carlucci (former U.S. Secretary of Defense), Mike Connell, Robert Gottlieb, Mike Nead and Herb Lande will also serve as executive producers, Variety reported.

According to Variety, the film is scheduled to begin shooting this summer in the Italy, Jordan, and British Columbia.

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  • Mojoron
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:40pm

    Mary, the estate of the Roman Church. Mmmmm, how is the story going to deviate from scripture? There is much more to Mary than meets the eye. As was said earlier, to understand Mary you need to read the early Church Fathers. They are the ones who really started the Cult of Mary.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:51pm

      MARK 3:20… mary and her sons oppose Jesus.

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    • Joey Odendahl
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:41pm

      Oh for ****’s sake. When will Christians learn that the enemy is OUT THERE. Not among us! Stop with the Catholic bashing. Let me say this again (as a Catholic). WE DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. There’s no f**king “cult of Mary.” We simply treat her as a very special person because she is Jesus’ MOM. I don’t see how God would be offended by such reverence. It’s not diminishing Christ. Especially since Mary herself said, “My soul doth MAGNIFY the Lord… From this day forward, ALL GENERATIONS will call me Blessed.” Luke 1:46-55 Even the angel said, “Hail full of grace” when he met her. Even the mother of John the Baptist said, “The mother of my Lord.” Were they part of the cult?

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:40am

      @Joey Odendahl: I’m Catholic and when I was a kid we had May Procession every year. It was in reverence to Mary and while we’re not supposed to worship Mary it seems many do. Ever see statues in people’s gardens of Mary, or even in church? While it’s bad enough to have statues of Mary, saints and even Christ, if you want to go back to early Christianity, it’s even worse that people pray to Her. I agree with you that we shouldn’t worship Mary but it seems the church has strayed far from the original teachings of Christ. I think it was Gandhi who said: he likes Christ but he does not like Christians because they are unlike their Christ. I think he was right.

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    • LogicNReasonPlusScience
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:16am

      Olsteen’s other career options: ‘Used Car Salesman’, ‘Life Insurance Salesman’, ‘Chiropractor’, ‘Inmate’.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:44am

      Logic…. If you’re going to talk about somebody at least spell their name right. It’s Rev “OSTEEN”. What’s the matter? A successful Christian man with a beautiful wife of 25 years, no affairs, two great kids and a loving family who has helped his father build a church from 12 people meeting in a room to 40,000 members meeting in a former sports center and a ministry that reaches millions isn’t your idea of a God blessed man? No friend, God has chosen Rev Osteen’s calling and you guessed wrong!

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    • CristerosDelNorte
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 8:31am

      If you want to know what the Catholic Church teaches about Mary go to the prime reference, the
      Catechism of the Catholic Church. This should reduce the bile due to arguing about something you THINK you know, when in fact you are just repeating what you heard third hand from a guy who got his theology in a week-end motel session.

      http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P1K.HTM

      Catechism of the Catholic Church
      Paragraph 2. “CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY”

      PART ONE: THE PROFESSION OF FAITH
      SECTION TWO I. THE CREEDS
      CHAPTER TWO I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD
      Article 3 “HE WAS CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND WAS BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY”
      Paragraph 2. “CONCEIVED BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BORN OF THE VIRGIN MARY”

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    • midwesthippie
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:26am

      JOEL 3:11 …he doth be a sooperdoosh

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:47am

      Beware of WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING. That would be Joel Osteen. His doctrines are somewhat flaky, which makes me run.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:49am

      Joey Odendahl: I am NOT Catholic and I believe you. It won’t be DOCTRINE that will get you into Heaven; it will be taking Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and then BEING A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST and actually DOING what He told us to do. Catholicism has nothing to do with anything other then DOCTRINE. If Catholics or any other religion do not place JESUS CHRIST at the center, they are doomed to either fail or cater to Satan.

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:59am

      “There are not even 100 people in this country who hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they think the Catholic Church to be.”

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:13pm

      AL J ZIRA… You say, “I’m Catholic”, but then spout things (e.g. “…it’s even worse that people pray to Her.“ and ”..:it seems the church has strayed far from the original teachings of Christ.”) that a Catholic who studied their faith never would. Why is this?

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    • givemelibertyorgivemedeath
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 5:44pm

      First of all, the protestant bible has revised much of holy scripture. Compare the Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible vs. King James Bible you will not only see misinterpretation according to protestant law but you will also see that your protestant bible is not complete as compared to the Catholic Bible.

      Number 2, aside from holy scripture in the bible, other revelations were given to martyrs and saints who walked this earth. Early Church Fathers, such as St. Augustine were also given revelations. Mother Mary is not a cult, she “our” celestial mother, including yours, whom catholics venerate. Look up the word “venerate” so that you can learn what the word means, you seem to define it as “worship”.

      Number 3 if you need any evidence of our Catholic faith, look at the incorruptable bodies of some of the Saints, St. Bernadette, Father Pio, St. John Vianney, etc. Show me where the protestant faith has anything like this to show?

      Trace back every faith which exists in this world, each one was “man-made” by someone who believed they could interpret God’s laws “according to the world’s laws”.

      All of you read the same bible and came out with your “own interpretation and your own man-made” religion. Why are there different “flavors” of protestants”? Why not just one, if ALL OF YOU HAD THE RIGHT ANSWER?

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  • Joe_Camel
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:37pm

    I think Joel will be sadly disappointed on Judgement Day.

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    • jtgun
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:46pm

      As will a lot of people , Joe .

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:24am

      Because he won’t see you there?

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:39am

      Why, because your name won’t be found in the Book of Life and he tried to help you?

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    • TripleFACE
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 8:39am

      etrayn3, Joel is leading millions astray. He preaching to itching ears. The prosperity gospel is NOT the gospel. Christ died for my sins, not to put money in my bank account.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:55am

      TripleFACE: You are correct. They hear what they want to hear. God does bless, but He also expects us to use those blessing to help and do for others besides ourselves. Most people who do have lots of money, do neither.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:09pm

      Tripleface last I checked Jesus died for all our sins and that’s why Rev Osteen has an altar call at the end of all of his services. And according to Jeremiah 29:11 (NIV)
      [11] For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Sounds like prosperity Gospel to me.

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    • Zedta
      Posted on June 2, 2012 at 11:43pm

      I agree with what you say, but I have an issue with your quotation of a Scriptural passage and how you apply it: According to my copy of the Douay-Rheims (older and more accurate than the King James ‘version’), the discussion was about how God would rescue the Jews from captivity in Babylon and restore them. What you quoted from NIV is quite different from the original: 4 Thus says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel, to all that are carried away captives, whom I have caused to be carried away from Jerusalem to Babylon: 5 Build houses, and dwell in them: and plant orchards, and eat the fruit of them. 6 Take wives, and beget sons and daughters: and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, and let them bear sons and daughters: and be multiplied there, and be not few in number…8 For thus says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Let not your prophets that are in the midst of you, and your diviners deceive you: and give no heed to your dreams which you dream: 9 For they prophesy falsely to you in my name: and I have not sent them, says the Lord. 10 For thus says the Lord: When the seventy years shall begin to be accomplished in Babylon, I will visit you: and I will perform my good word in your favour, to bring you again to this place. 11 For I know the thoughts that I think towards you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of affliction, to give you an end and patience.

      This isn’t for modern man, but ancient Jews in captivity.

      Sorry, out of

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:15pm

    I drove past the Lakewood church on the way back from the wives eye surgery today. Homeless people are all over the place. The church is stunningly large. And accepts all the poor as well as the wealthy. A billboard announced the sermon for the day. I can only say it’s a church standing in the light and the darkness outside fades in comparison. It may not have a perfect message but Joel can try all he wants.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:27am

      Did you take any of those homeless into your home and give them a hot meal and a place to sleep? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 7:04am

      Do you know me well enough to cast aspersions ?
      Your assertion is without merit and ignorant.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:59am

      Assumption is the LOWEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE. Remember that the next anyone ASSUMES to know something about you.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:27pm

      I didn’t make any assumptions about you, I just asked a simple question. It sounded to me as if you were “casting aspersions” on Rev Osteen, hence the Biblical reference. Your quickness to throw accusatory barbs at me might suggest you have some deeper feelings about this you need to work out between you and the Lord.
      As for Assumption being the lowest form of intelligence, you’re wrong. Ignorance is the lowest form of intelligence and it shows every time someone opens their mouth to speak about something they know nothing about!

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 8:34pm

      You’re a sad example.

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  • sjohn70037
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:11pm

    Twink con artist.

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:08am

      UNFAIR, UNFOUNDED, stupid remark. This Catholic LOVES JOEL and VICTORIA OSTEEN and we contribute (un asked) his 30 min once a week from Lakewood Church in Houston is one of the highlights of my week. He inspires. While all the rest deride, he inspires. Those who have ears will hear.

      This is great project, can’t wait to see it! Mary deserves to be adored. We don’t worship her, we ADORE her. We ask her to intercede for us as our kids ask us to stick up for them. I can’t even imagine life without faith, without Jesus, without Mary, without studying the Bible and without putting (trying to put) God first every day. THEY would like for us to go away and for America to have no faith, and you know they are trying, but they won’t /don’t win.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:53am

      PATTY HENRY:
      What part of DIED don’t you understand? MARY DIED AND IS STILL DEAD. JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN. Mary is still dead and cannot intercede for anyone. READ YOUR BIBLE FOOL. THE DEAD ARE DEAD AND ARE DOING BETTER THINGS THAN WE ARE. JESUS IS THE ONE YOU SHOULD BE PRAYING TO. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO PRAY TO, TO INTERCEDE FOR YOU. ACTS 4:12.

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 11:05am

      Child,
      God is not the God of the dead.
      Jesus did say if you believe in Him you will have life eternal, did He not?
      Jesus loved his Mother. Sure, why shouldn’t He, she was his Mom! Jesus was capable of natural, filial love. But, can the Son of God love His earthly Mother only with a merely natural, human love? Because He was not only fully Man, but also fully God hypostatically united in one Person, every human act of Jesus was also a divine act; as Jesus did, God did.
      Therefore, the uniquely natural, filial love Jesus felt for his Mother was at the same time uniquely and infinitely supernatural. The miracle of the Son’s love for his Mother is not that He loves Her as God would love any human being, but that He loves her as a Son would truly love his Mother! Is the same Love, but infinitely and inexhaustibly given, and felt; it’s perfect human love transposed to an infinite, divine key.
      The Son loves his Mother. There was no other person on earth that He loved with such filial love and yet, beyond the sense of the finitely human, lays the same filial Love. There was no one else on earth that he would embrace and kiss this way.
      The biblical figure of Mary forms the basis of the Catholic devotion to Her, by stating that it is the Son’s love for His Mother that forms the basis for the Catholic devotion to Her.
      Our Lady is Waiting just for you. If you hear her call, let Nothing stand in Your way.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:27pm

      BY FAITH… Eloquently said, but I’m not certain Child will comprehend the theological words.

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    • FrodoBaggins
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 9:34pm

      Patty Henry, we as Catholics DO NOT adore Mary. Adoration is meant for God alone. We venerate, or dulia. Hyper dulia for The Virgin Mary to be exact, dulia for the saints. Adoration or Latria is perserved for Jseus/God alone. The problem with words is that over the centuries they change in meaning. To worship at one time did not mean to adore as we give God only. If you read old writings you would see english monarchy or statesmen called “your worship” as respect. Also, translation gets lost in the mix. The Catholic Church has been around for 2000 years so the words used may mean something that today has varied but not for the Church. That is why Latin was used forever. It was/is a universal language that did not go through an evolution process. God is not the God of the dead…great scripture quote BTW…as far as Joel, well he is a good motivational speaker. As far as him doing a movie on Mary, well he better be careful and not try diminish her role in the salvation of man. That’s my Mother! “Let it be done unto me according to thy word”. That fiat set the “divine ball” rolling…

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  • Be Not Afraid
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:09pm

    Well Joel, I hope you at least read up on the Early Church Fathers to get some understanding of 2000+ years of tradition that protestants threw out along with the “Baby”. Don’t seek too much truth though…, or you will will end up being a Catholic!

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    • sensibleadult
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:47pm

      The Catholic church threw out the entire book of Acts. They in no way resemble the New Testament church. Catholicism is false religion.

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    • joboww
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:18pm

      sensible

      really you need to try harder on this one. Acts has always been in the canon of scripture. See council of hippo or council of carthage. Also see the religous within the church who slavishly worked to preserve these textsfor you mr protestant. Perhaps you are ignorant of your own history (see Luther on James, Revalation, etc…) Bickering outof ignorance will never bring about the fulfillment of christs high priestly prayer, namelythat they all be one. Go back to the drawing board and develop more liberal revisions to history which you seem so fond of.

      All the best, and my prayers with you friend,

      Joboww

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:45pm

      @sensibleadult – Have you ever seen the original 1611 King James Bible? Are you aware that the principle “reformers” John Calvin and Martin Luther both taught that the “Virgin Mary” remained a virgin her entire life? No where in scripture does it say that Mary and Joseph had sex. This is an “assumption” made by some people simply because scripture says that Joseph did not know Mary “UNTIL” she gave birth but all that this tells us is that until Jesus was born Joseph did not know Mary. We have no indication from scripture that after Jesus was born Joseph took Mary to satisfy his flesh. When Jesus tells us to believe in Him UNTIL He comes again does that mean that when He comes again we will stop believing in Him? Is it really Christian to believe that Joseph said “Now that God incarnate, the savior of the world, the Messiah has passed through your womb lets have sex” Would any Christian male honestly look at Gods mother in a sexual way? As Christian men we have to put ourselves in Josephs position and sincerely ask ourselves would we look upon Mary, the vessel of almighty God in a sexual way and after knowing that almighty God passed through Mary’s womb would we still see her in a sexual way? God Bless.

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:30am

      @sensibleadult – You wrote “They in no way resemble the New Testament church. Catholicism is false religion” 1 Cor 11:27-30 => Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep” Why don’t you do everyone in here a favor and explain what is meant by “anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and have fallen asleep” God Blesss

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 6:39am

      All religions are based on a false premise.

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    • TripleFACE
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 8:48am

      snooop1e, Where did Jesus’ brother James come from? Or His other brothers and sisters?

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 9:50am

      James, the brother of Jesus
      First, can you prove this James came from a sexual union between Mary and Joseph?
      Could Joseph have been a widow? An older man with children of his own? That would make James the brother of Jesus, but not the son of Mary.
      Could James have been adopted? Again not a son of Mary.
      The language of the time would also have included not only close kinsmen, but also devoted followers as a “brother”.
      I can prove none of these, but neither can you prove that James was a son of Mary.

      What we do know is for nearly 2,000 years all Christians honored and held Mary in a special way. She was treated as the mother of the King. Attempts to denigrate Mary are a relatively new phenomenon.
      Jesus loves His mother and so do I.
      All Mary does is point the way to her son. Her last words in the Bible say: “Do whatever He tells you”

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:36am

      Jesus, as He was dying on the cross found it of such great importance to say: ‘Woman, behold, your son!’. Then he said to the disciple, ‘Behold, your mother!’” (Jn 19:26-27).
      Why would Jesus feel the need to take care of Mary, did Jesus not know she had other children who could take care of her? Why couldn’t one of her other children take her in? Jesus’ words, “Behold, your son”, effect what they express, making Mary the mother of John and of all the disciples destined to receive the gift of divine grace.
      May each one of us, precisely through the concrete reality of Mary’s universal motherhood, fully acknowledge her as our own Mother, and trustingly commend ourselves to her maternal love.
      If I were to disrespect your mother, that would rightly upset you. Why do some people feel the need to disrespect Jesus’ mother?

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 10:57am

      snooop1e: James was Jesus’ brother, so Mary and Joseph conceived James AFTER Jesus.
      Funny how some so-called Christians seem to know nothing about their Bible or history.

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    • by faith
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 11:37am

      “Mary and Joseph conceived James AFTER Jesus”

      Is neither Biblical nor Historical

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:16pm

      @CHILDOFTHEKING – Just an observation here. If you read the Bible the way you read my posts that would explain some things. James the lesser an Joses were the sons of Mary the wife of CLOPAS. They were not the sons of Mary the wife of Joseph. Take care “brother” God Bless.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:45pm

      BY FAITH & SNOOOP1E… Wonderful job.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:35pm

      Enlighten us ghostbuster, what would that premise be?

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  • Bronco II
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:08pm

    Well here I go again railing on these false teachers I don‘t watch him he doesn’t teach GODS WORD from the Bible he does like many do spits out a couple of verses and then talks about himself or what he thinks what the bible says instead of actually reading the chapter verse by verse and NO being gay isn‘t a sin where does it say that what book what chapter and what verse please do tell us so we can read it for ourselves he can’t because it isn’t there it is the ACT THE ACT.Well Joel by you not being truthful with GODS WORD aren’t you sinning and GOD SAID I will judge those from the pulpit first who mislead my children with false doctrine and traditions of men.I’m not judging just DISCERNING between what is right and wrong and you are wrong.Truth has no agenda.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:00am

      Lev 18:22, Lev 20:13 both call out homosexuality as detestable, unlawful or a sin. And I didn’t recognize the scripture you quoted. Where is it from? Furthermore, you were judging Rev Osteen and the Bible says that he that is without sin should cast the first stone. Rev Osteen has always said he does not preach like his father who was more of a traditional preacher,i.e. read the scripture. He felt God using him in a different manner. The Bible tells us that we all have spiritual gifts. Rev Osteen‘s gift is for ministering and spreading God’s Word in his unique way. The way God intended. As a result he has reached millions of people with his sermon of spiritual, physical, financial relational prosperity as well as the most important of all the good news of Jesus Christ.

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  • DogTags
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:00pm

    The gospel is about Christ and Christ alone. It’s fine to make a movie emphasizing Mary, but her veneration is idolatry.

    Not to beat up on the Catholics, but they believe a lie that Mary remained a virgin and that she should be venerated. They try to explain away references to Jesus’ “brethren” to mean “cousins.” Two things are wrong with that: 1) the Greek language has a word for “cousin” and it is never used when spoken of Jesus’ “brethren”; 2) in the context of the scripture, why do the Catholics insist “mother” means “mother” but “brethren” mean “cousins?” Their interpretation of scripture is eisegetical (meaning they read implications into words; i.e. “brethren” must mean “cousins” because, of course, Mary remained a virgin, right?) rather than exegetical (to let the words interpret themselves; i.e. the author used the word “brethren” which means physical, biological brother, so Mary must have not remained a virgin).

    Also, see Luke 11:27-28 where Jesus rejects the veneration of Mary, his mother. A woman came to Jesus praising Mary for simply being Jesus’ mother. Jesus rejected that and said “Yea, rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it.”

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:13pm

      Dogtags…if you want to try an damn us…damn us for what we really believe.

      This refutiates what you “think” we believe.

      http://www.catholic.com/tracts/brethren-of-the-lord

      http://www.catholic.com/tracts/saint-worship

      http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mary-ever-virgin

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    • DogTags
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:27pm

      Jesus had at least four brothers and two sisters. See Matthew 13:55-56. His brothers are even named. And when Matthew 13 mentions Jesus’ “sisters” does “sisters” mean “cousins” too?

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:35pm

      DogTags…you’re not going to read…are you?

      There are about ten instances in the New Testament where “brothers” and “sisters” of the Lord are mentioned (Matt. 12:46; Matt. 13:55; Mark 3:31–34; Mark 6:3; Luke 8:19–20; John 2:12, 7:3, 5, 10; Acts 1:14; 1 Cor. 9:5).

      When trying to understand these verses, note that the term “brother” (Greek: adelphos) has a wide meaning in the Bible. It is not restricted to the literal meaning of a full brother or half-brother. The same goes for “sister” (adelphe) and the plural form “brothers” (adelphoi). The Old Testament shows that “brother” had a wide semantic range of meaning and could refer to any male relative from whom you are not descended (male relatives from whom you are descended are known as “fathers”) and who are not descended from you (your male descendants, regardless of the number of generations removed, are your “sons”), as well as kinsmen such as cousins, those who are members of the family by marriage or by law rather than by blood, and even friends or mere political allies (2 Sam. 1:26; Amos 1:9).

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    • DogTags
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:35pm

      A little testy are we, Judeo? Who’s condemning you? Maybe your own conscience. Mary’s “perpetual virginity” is simply a lie, not supported by scripture. And using Old Testament language to prove “brother” has a “wide meaning” is simply lazy scholarship.

      Catholic insistence on Mary’s perpetual virginity is simply a part of their extra-biblical (meaning outside of scripture) veneration of Mary. See Luke 11:27-28.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:35pm

      Lot, for example, is called Abraham’s “brother” (Gen. 14:14), even though, being the son of Haran, Abraham’s brother (Gen. 11:26–28), he was actually Abraham’s nephew. Similarly, Jacob is called the “brother” of his uncle Laban (Gen. 29:15). Kish and Eleazar were the sons of Mahli. Kish had sons of his own, but Eleazar had no sons, only daughters, who married their “brethren,” the sons of Kish. These “brethren” were really their cousins (1 Chr. 23:21–22).

      The terms “brothers,“ ”brother,“ and ”sister” did not refer only to close relatives. Sometimes they meant kinsmen (Deut. 23:7; Neh. 5:7; Jer. 34:9), as in the reference to the forty-two “brethren” of King Azariah (2 Kgs. 10:13–14).

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    • DogTags
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Oh, Judeo, I guess by your providing those links, I seem to be accurate in my assessment of your beliefs.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:43pm

      No you are not accurate. You fall for the same fallacies that Boetner tried to promote in “Roman Catholocism”. Boetner was proven wrong time and time again, so in the same vain you have been too.

      These are some of the “same old” errors (misstruths and/or outright lies) told about the Catholic Church. I’m just not going to let it continue here.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:45pm

      I have a question for you DogTags. Which existed first: The Church or the Bible?

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:13pm

      If you read Mark 15:40 you will see that there was a Mary at the foot of the cross (Jesus monther) and there was a Mary off in the distance (The mother of James the lesser and Joses). So one was the mother of Jesus and one was the mother of James and Joses. Two different Marys. James and Joses are the ones refered to as Jesus “brethren” but their mother is a different Mary (the wife of Clopas) not Mary the wife of Joseph. They are the sons of a different Mary. Also, was Eve created with or without sin? Please site the exact Chapter and Verse in the Bible that says that Mary had sexual relations with Joseph. The principle reformers (Martin Luther and John Calvin) both adamantly held to the perpetual virginity of Mary. Ask yourself as a Protestant why they did and you do not? Based on what? Lastly, do you honestly believe that after God incarnate passed through Marys womb Joseph just couldn’t wait to use the tabernacle of the Lord to satisfy his fleshly desires? Remember in the OT just touching the ark brought instant death. It’s truly sad how many people are obsessed with insisting that Joseph used the Mother of God, the ark of the new covenant to satisfy his fleshly desires. Ask yourself as a Christian male would you feel right having sex with your wife after God incarnate had passed through her womb? Really? Lord have Mercy…..

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    • mjk1981
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:24pm

      Matthew 1:25 (NLT) “But he (Joseph) did not have sexual relations with her (Mary) until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.”

      (NAS) “but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus”

      (NIV) But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

      Same line . . . 3 different translations. As fromer Catholic, I thought that Mary was ever virgin as well. God’s word clearly refutes that.

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    • Simple Catholic
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:21pm

      “Mother” does have an exclusive biological, physical sense that ‘brother“ or ”bretheran” does not have. Catholics do not try to ‘explain away’ the latter, but we have many years more experience with Sacred Scripture than does Joel “Health and Wealth” Osteen.

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    • Simple Catholic
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Mary did not remain a virgin because the Scriptures talk of Jesus’ bretheren? That’s your proof? It is more difficult for you to believe that she remained a virgin (her choice) than that she should conceive without violating her virginity? That is one weak argument.

      It is fitting that the woman from whom Our Lord received HIs Sacred Humanity should remain inviolate.

      O Mary, Conceived Without Sin, Pray for Us who have recourse to Thee!

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    • joboww
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:29pm

      MJK1981

      Im going to take a guess that you might have received inadequate training in the english langauge in the past. Not your fault.

      Using tthe word until to prove a point is not definative.

      “He was a patriot until the day he died”

      2 Samuel 6:23: And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to (until) the day of her death. (Does this mean she had children after she died?)
      1 Timothy 4:13: Until I come, attend to the public reading of scripture, to preaching, to teaching. (Does this mean Timothy should stop teaching after Paul comes?)
      1 Corinthians 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, “he will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”)

      try harder….

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:56pm

      @MJK1981 – Where does it say that AFTER Jesus was born Joseph had sex with Mary? It just says that until Jesus was born Joseph did not have sex with Mary, it says nothing about what happened after Jesus was born. You are reading into the text. If you take it LITERALLY it only says that Joseph did as he was told and did not take Mary UNTIL Jesus was born. If I tell you I have not committed adultery until now am I saying that I have not committed adultery or am I telling you that as I am speaking I am committing adultery? Think about it…..P.S. Both Martin Luther an John Calvin taught that Mary remained a virgin her entire life. Do your research and find out when the idea of Mary not being ever virgin was introduced, also ask yourself what Mary’s sex life has to do with salvation? God Bless.

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:58pm

      @DOGTAGS – James the lesser an Joses were the sons of Mary the wife of Clopas, they were not the sons of Mary the wife of Joseph. Do your research brother. God Bless.

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    • missvee1942
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:19am

      I think Christ is still crying out ,”Father ,I pray they all be one as you and I are one” we need to quit highlighting our differences and agree together that Christ died for our sins ,all the rest can work it’s way out.
      The only problem i have with Tv evangelist is the emphasis on faith teaching and the prosperity messages.Try to tell a Christian in Sudan or India ,they can have all the world’s possessions if they just believe hard enough.

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    • pjthom81
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:15pm

      I think that you attempt to make a pronouncement on something that Christians of good will have looked at for a long time and have not agreed on. I do note that the language used by all parties at the time would be Aramaic, not Greek. I don’t suppose it is of very great importance in the context of religion, but to cap quite a few centuries of debate over the issue from a Catholic perspective:

      James is without doubt the Bishop of Jerusalem (Acts 12:17, 15:13, 21:18; Galatians 1:19; 2:9-12) and the author of the first Catholic Epistle. His identity with James the Less (Mark 15:40) and the Apostle James, the son of Alpheus (Matthew 10:3; Mark 3:18), although contested by many Protestant critics, may also be considered as certain. There is no reasonable doubt that in Galatians 1:19: “But other of the apostles [besides Cephas] I saw none, saving James the brother of the Lord”, St. Paul represents James as a member of the Apostolic college. The purpose for which the statement is made, makes it clear that the “apostles” is to be taken strictly to designate the Twelve, and its truthfulness demands that the clause “saving James” be understood to mean, that in addition to Cephas, St. Paul saw another Apostle, “James the brother of the Lord” (cf. Acts 9:27). Besides, the prominence and authority of James among the Apostles (Acts 15:13; Galatians 2:9; in the latter text he is even named before Cephas) could have belonged only to one of their number. Now there were only

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  • LarryofArabia
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:52pm

    This is a sight for sore eyes. I’ve had enough of MIB III and the Avengers. I pray this is as successful as the Passion. That was truly a great movie! I hope this one will have the ‘it’ factor as the first one did. Joel is perfect for the role. He has energy, wisdom and Christ in his heart.

    We need more movies like this. It seems nobody has the courage to do these films anymore. Way to go Joel and all the production team.

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  • DocH
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:39pm

    @ SONOFTHUNDER…Too bad you never knew your Catholic faith….or, maybe you didn’t want to know it. You left because you wanted to do what YOU wanted to do, and not what the CHURCH wanted you to do. Same old story; ignorance.

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  • DocH
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:36pm

    I wonder if Joel will consult the Catholic Church about Mary? We have a two thousand year devotion (not worship as some bigots say) to Mary. There is no one who know more about Mary than the Catholic Church.

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  • Netsurfer2
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:32pm

    Jesus did not put his values in money! In fact he said to his disciples to give their money away to the poor. I think many churches have it wrong! Then you have creeps like this guy!

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:07am

      Jesus actually had a treasurer if you remember. He kept the money for them and of course betrayed Jesus, but they did have a need for money. His name was Judas. Yes, there are churches that are primarily in the business of making money. I’m thinking of a prominent black pastor in Atlanta with his own jet that flies back and forth to New York each week. His mansion has been valued at $20 million and pictures of it are on the Internet. He has numerous high dollar cars etc… Rev Osteen is not one of these men. His messages, if you’ve ever heard one, I doubt it, are about using what God has given each of us to prosper in our health, spirit, relationships and yes even finances. If you are a Christian, then you know that what you are doing is judging Rev Osteen and that is a sin.

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  • nuttyvet
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:18pm

    Osteen is a creep right down to his big toothy grin! Oh, and stop Catholic bashing folks! Yes, we pray to Mary and to Saints, get over it.

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    • SonOfThunder
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:35pm

      Yes. Which is idolatry worshiping false idol breaking the first and second commandment. Being an ex catholic you are in a cult. There is no such thing as purgatory. You can’t pray someone who is dead into heaven. You can’t pay your way to heaven or work your way to heaven. Sop worshipping graven statues of Mary and your saints. You probably have planted Joseph in your yard to sell your house. That is a common catholic practice. Do you know how silly that is?

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:41pm

      Yes we do pray to Mary…however we only pray that she will join our prayer. Mary does not grant anything except for her own prayers to Jesus Christ.

      I have to add this in a hurry before the Catholic bashers start. I don’t get it why protestants are so afraid of their mother (…behold your mother. John 19:27)

      Where Eve said no to God….Mary said yes. Mary is the ‘new’ Eve.

      The Arch of the old covenant was covered with gold and it carried the Word of God in the pieces of the 10 Comandments. Mary is the Arch of the New Covenant. She carried the Word of God made flesh in her womb.

      Behold your mother!

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    • johndylan1
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:02pm

      Understood properly, The word “prayer” means to make a request. The practice by Catholics of praying to the Saints and to Mary are not the same as worship which is reserved for God alone. It is prayer, which is a request for their intercession before God. The equivilent in the evangelical church would be to pull the decon aside and ask for special prayer on your behalf. I am sure this wouldn’t be considered idolotry by anyone; what Catholics understand is that Mary and all the Saints are amongst the living not unlike the decon you may have asked to pray for you. In some ways this a more humble position before God. What Catholics miss is that the Saints are indeed amongst the living yet not amongst the omnicient. So… no, it’s not idolotry but maybe a direct prayer might not be a bad idea.
      Grace and Peace.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:04pm

      SonOfThunder …you really don’t know how much you dont know. Especially about the Catholic Church, its practicies and it teachings.

      We only worship the Holy Trinity….The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We venerate Mary and the saints who lived lives of heroic virtue.

      Purgatory is not a place, it is more of a state of being. While in the state of purgatory, your spirit is being purified of any attachment to sin (If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire….1 Corinthians 3:15) When you die, your souls eternal destination is either Heaven or hell. If you start through the purification of Purgatory, rejoice…You are going to heaven. The Catholics prayer for those “in purgatory” is praying that there sufforing will be deminished and quick so that they may join heaven to be with God. Their prayer does nothing to change the individuals final judgement. Nothing imperfect can enter heaven. Praise God for purgatory!

      We don’t pray to statues. We use statues as a reminder of those who have left this world in the friendship of Christ. Who have lived good, virtuous lives in service to Christ. SonOfThunder, do you have pictures of your Parents who have passed away? Why do you keep those around? They are dead. You keep them as an aid to remember the good people they were. The statues in Catholic Church are just a 3D version of a picture of a good Christian man or woman that we would like to em

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    • db321
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:06pm

      Hey Nutty – Good Name – it fits! I don’t care if you pray to a PB&J Sandwich – but if you want your Prayers answered – go to the source – Jesus, himself! You Catholics love to have a ritual in front of your faith. I once saw a scuff mark on a wooden floor and Catholics came from all over lighting candles and making to Wood Floor of a House a Shrine.

      I ask one question to the Homeowner – do you have good Insurance – he asked Why? I said, because if your house burns down – what are all these worshipers going to do to replace Jesus.

      Jesus is the answer – not the Wise Men, Donkey or Mother Mary “who is a Saint” God Bless Her – But she is not going to get anyone into Heaven – to get into Heaven – you need to confess that you are a Sinner and let Jesus into your Heart. All the Rituals in the World can get you in!

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:52pm

      @SONOF THUNDER – Where in the Catechism are those things taught? Section/Paragraph please. God Bless

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    • christos
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:13pm

      To SONOFTHUNDER — Amen – Ditto…

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 12:11am

      @DB321 – Do you know who John Calvin and Martin Luther are? Just curious : )

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:51am

      Rev Osteen is an honorable man and a great Christian. You say you want people to stop Catholic bashing and in the same sentence spew hatred at Rev Osteen who has done nothing to you or the Catholic religion. In fact, the movie about Mary will, I’m sure, show great reverence for Jesus’ mother. Is this how you want people to view representatives of the Catholic religion – close-minded, vitriole spewing hate-mongers? The Bible tells us not to judge and to love your neighbor as yourself. Just something to think about…

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 9:07am

      Christos, why would you say Amen to ignorance? Bigotry and ignorance are always such good bed fellows. I will pray for you.

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    • PaxInVeritate
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:14pm

      JUDEO_CHRISTIAN…

      CHRISTOS and I have gone around the Merry Go Round about our Mother. Obviously it had no effect.

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  • ENDTIMES2220
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:17pm

    I’m sorry God.

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:15pm

    I hope Mary’s Mother, St. Ann, is in the film too. SHE ROCKS!

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  • soybomb315
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:12pm

    i really cant stand this guy

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    • LadyLibertykicksASS
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 8:05pm

      I think he’s Really Weird and Creepy !!!

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    • Rayblue
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 7:48am

      Ever met him ? I did when I had to go to the original Lakewood Church off of 610 to inform the Reverend John Osteen and his son Joel of the exit and entrance ramps closures that would affect the coming and going of the congregation. Both John and Joel and Johns wife were bodyguard protected then and it was a minor feat of diplomacy to meet with them. All of the family were suspicious of me at first because I was there on business on a Sunday while the church was just beginning to fill up. John and Joel were not at all what I expected. They quickly took in all the logistics of the situation and informed the congregation of the closures over the PA. I felt the same spark of authority and straightforwardness from them as I’ve felt from certain revivalists and hardcore storefront mission evangelists in the past. I know the feeling well. John and Joel were and are fine men who place the Word before their people so as to inspire each to do for themselves. To walk in the light and become free from the constraints of the darkness.

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  • SHASTADIANE1
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:03pm

    This was done already..last time in “The Nativity”, which I thought was a very well done main stream dipiction.

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  • ChuckJ
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:01pm

    The message is not Mary, it s not Joseph. The message is not any of Christ’s followers. The message is Jesus Christ, and thats all. Osteen should know this but I question what he preaches. The man has a spinning globe behind him on his stage. Satan was called the’ ruler of the world by Jesus 3 times in the book of John. John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have not seen a cross on the stage, which would be the symbol of Christ, our only hope to be with God.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:21pm

      Well said and I totally agree. Just watching him speak and all the blinking he does reminds me of Robert Tilton. He could be related because he looks a bit like him too. He is not a true Christian.

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    • DogTags
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:53pm

      I share your concerns with Osteen’s “gospel.” I wonder if this movie will depict the biblical view of Mary as the mother of other children. Jesus had at least four brothers and two sisters. See Matthew 13:55-56. His brothers are even named.

      Not to beat up on the Catholics, but they believe a lie that Mary remained a virgin and that she should be venerated. They try to explain away references to Jesus’ “brethren” to mean “cousins.” Two things are wrong with that: 1) the Greek language has a word for “cousin” and it is never used when spoken of Jesus’ “brethren”; 2) in the context of the scripture, why do the Catholics insist “mother” means “mother” but “brethren” mean “cousins?” Their interpretation of scripture is eisegetical (meaning they read implications into words; i.e. “brethren” must mean “cousins” because, of course, Mary remained a virgin, right?) rather than exegetical (to let the words interpret themselves; i.e. the author used the word “brethren” which means physical, biological brother, so Mary must have not remained a virgin).

      Also, see Luke 11:27-28 where Jesus rejects the veneration of Mary, his mother. A woman came to Jesus praising Mary for simply being Jesus’ mother. Jesus rejected that and said “Yea, rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it.”

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 1:43am

      @CHUCKJ = Exactly, so do as Mary said in John 2:5 “Do whatever He tells you” God Bless

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:30am

      You’re barking up the wrong tree. Didn’t you read the article? This movie is a precursor to the “Passion of the Christ”. Precursor means before. What came before Jesus in the natural world? Mary. That’s what this movie is about. It’s no “Mary worship”. Rev Osteen is an ordained minister and preaches salvation, although he is not a fire and brimstone preacher or a Charles Stanley. Who cares what’s on the stage? Not every church I’veattended has had a cross behind the pulpit. Does that mean Satan worship is taking place? I don’t think so! And as for your friend with the blinking problem. I watch him all the time and don’t see what your talking about, although having been on stage in front of bright lights I can attest to the fact that your eyes do dry out and you tend to blink more to keep your eyes from getting too dry. And as the Bible says, we are not to judge and no one knows a persons heart but the Lord, so it is not your place to say who is or is not a Christian. Just worry about your own soul!

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  • SonOfThunder
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:01pm

    Osteen is a wolve in sheep’s clothing. The guy hardly mentions Scripture or Jesus in his sermons. He is a light weight scripturally as he tells you that he never went to any bible college or seminary. Focusing on Mary has nothing to do with the Gospel. But again his prosperity sermons has nothing to do with the Gospel or the Bible. He is a false teacher and I would avoid this movie.

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    • DogTags
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:56pm

      Uh…you mean “wolf.”

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:56pm

      You avoid the movie all you want, dimbulb. What do you think? Jesus was found under a cabbage leaf? You fools can split Scripture Hairs all you want! Can’t you guys see? Can’t you read between the lines? You sound like muslims, like women are worth ****! Yes, Keep God‘s Word and you can’t go wrong, but look at your own home, or the homes of your friends and families. If a man truly LOVES and TRUSTS his woman, she wields the power, not him. (I know, I know – it’s give and take for both, but IF LOVE EXISTS, then both know they are both part of a whole. Each would lay down their lives for one another, but, physically, the man has the BIG advantage! The loving husband LETS his wife rule. [As most of us know, that's the score.] If the Queen ain’t happy, then neither is the Kingdom.) Look at chess, then. The king (figurehead) moves one space a whack, can move their home (castle), and THAT”S ALL FOLKS. Meanwhile, the queen does pretty much as she damn well pleases, but if she’s lost, the king is shtupped. Simple but complicated. A precious balance, indeed. Her loving heart, knowledge of HIS protection and righteous anger and indignance (If needed) balances out his brute force, arrogance and need for any further conquests. The way I see it, as below, so Above. I don’t profess to know Their Ways, but it makes sense to me. Only 2 other things make sense to me:
      1. If you don’t go see this film, it leaves one more seat for me.
      2. Don’t forget to pray to the Blessed Mother,

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 11:13pm

      And St. Ann will always ROCK!!!

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    • JACKTHETOAD
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:13am

      Please pray to St. Ann.( She’s never let me down! I don‘t think She’ll let anyone else down either. I’m sure She can help lead us out of this mess. Her favorite bird is the marten.)

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:21am

      You are mistaken on several accounts thunder. Rev Osteen did attend Oral Roberts University for two years without receiving a degree. And never said he didn’t. And he believes in preaching the goodness of God without emphasizing the negativity of sin. This is not to say that he does not preach the Gospel as he always closes with an invitation. He uses scripture throughout his sermon, but does not give a scripture-based sermon like his father did. As the Bible says, we all have our gifts and his gift is ministering in his special and unique way. As for the movie that he is co-producing, if you read the article, it is the prequel to Mel Gibson’s movie “The Passion of the Christ” about Jesus’ final week on Earth. This movie about Mary just fills in the gaps until then. Just like the Star Wars movies. You have to remember those! I think too many people are caught up in his prosperity Gospel and the fact that he doesn’t read line for line from the Bible. There are preachers like that, i.e. Charles Stanley a great expositor of the word who reaches a different audience. I like him also. Then there is Rev Osteen who has the ability to reach out to a diverse crowd with diverse problems and show them the that God’s plan for them is not sickness, Jesus healed the sick, poverty, Jesus preached giving to the poor, etc… If that’s not Bible based then what is?

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  • Sanmon
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:56pm

    Well if Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church is involved what could go wrong? It is good thing there is not much in the Bible about Mary, at least scripture will not get in the way of Joel’s role.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:05pm

      This is great, I can see people lining up already.

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:51am

      He shouldn’t have any trouble with scripture, he studied for two years at Oral Roberts University and grew up in the church a pastor’s son. Plus he’s the co-producer! Not an actor!

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  • Doctor Nordo
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:55pm

    I’m not a fan of Osteen, but I‘m a huge fan of Peter O’Toole, so I’ll see it for him if nothing else.

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  • skimmer57
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:52pm

    I wish he would direct a movie of the planet KOLOB.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:52pm

    DISGUSTING, as usual for joelo.

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    • Favored93
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:03pm

      I am not a fan of Joel either and am not a Catholic but honestly I do not see what is disgusting here grandma. Can you please tell me what is on your mind here sis?

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:47pm

    Well goody gumdrops. Not a fan of ole Joel. Too many smiles and not enough preaching of the Gospel. But, all the best, of course.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 9:59pm

      I dont let my wife watch it cuz I‘m afraid she’ll see him and turn lezbo

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    • TRONINTHEMORNING
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 10:16pm

      Too good!! Man he is just creep eeeeee!!!

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 4:03am

      If she turns into a lesbian by watching a loving Christian heterosexual man married to the same woman for 25 years with 2 children then you‘ve got problems you don’t know about unrelated to Rev Olsteen. You want to look closer to home!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 7:36am

      or if she sees how he wears his makeup and bats his eyelashes with that cheesy smile…..maybe she will forever be repulsed by men.

      It’s the Rosanne Bar effect

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 2:16pm

      Triple face, as a Christian I am well aware of Jesus’ sacrifice for my sins and his subsequent resurrection to be with his Father in Heaven. If you read my latest post you will also see that Lakewood Church and Rev Osteen do offer the word of salvation to those in attendance at the end of the program and you can hear the altar call in the prayer after the sermon. As for putting money in his pocket, where’s your proof?

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    • etrayn3
      Posted on June 1, 2012 at 3:26pm

      Soy dude, then she would be endangered by all of the actors with makeup that happen to have long eyelashes, all of the news anchors, all of the sports casters and any other man with makeup for any reason. I think you may be are just insecure.

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  • MOLLYPITCHER
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:46pm

    Is it just me? Or is this guy creepy? Ever since I saw him on tv years ago, he’s always rubbed me the wrong way.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 31, 2012 at 7:08pm

      You’re not alone in those thoughts. I’m a Christian and a believer… but not a believer in slick looking and sounding “Megapastors”… or TV Evangelists.

      On the other hand if they’re getting people (especially our young) into God and Church I can’t gripe too much. Trust but verify, lol.

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  • moussiagilda
    Posted on May 31, 2012 at 6:39pm

    Lovely and gorgeous and worthy of a movie. Osteen approves of me. Don’t you?

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