John Boehner Denies House Might Cave on Debt Deal
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Even if some House Republicans end up supporting a compromise as the House-passed cut, cap and balance bill goes to the Senate floor for debate, House Speaker John Boehner is sticking to his guns, emphatically stating there is “absolutely no deal.”
WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — House Speaker John Boehner predicted Thursday that a majority of House Republicans will end up supporting some kind of compromise as the Senate began debating a House-passed effort to tie an increase in the debt ceiling to conservative demands for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called up the measure to placate Republicans demanding a vote. But he said it “doesn’t have one chance in a million of passing the Senate.”
At a news conference, Boehner told reporters, “Frankly, I think it would be irresponsible on behalf of the Congress and the president not to be looking at back-up strategies for how to solve this problem.”
“At the end of the day, we have a responsibility to act,” the Ohio Republican said.
Asked whether GOP lawmakers supporting the House’s “cut, cap and balance” debt limit measure would be unwilling to ultimately compromise, Boehner said, “I‘m sure we’ve got some members who believe that, but I do not believe that would be anywhere close to the majority.”
Meanwhile, White House spokesman Jay Carney reported little progress from private meetings President Barack Obama held Wednesday with Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, and separately with congressional Democratic leaders.
“There is no deal, we are not close to a deal,” Carney said.
“There is no progress to report but we continue to work on getting the most significant deficit reduction package possible because we think it’s the right thing for the economy,” he said.
Boehner’s talk of possible accommodation in the protracted political stalemate over federal budget policy came as the Senate took up the tea party-backed House legislation Thursday. It ties an increase in the government’s borrowing authority to a series of conservative demands, including immediate spending cuts and a constitutional balanced budget amendment.
Democrats argue that the so-called “cut, cap and balance” measure would impose untenable spending restraints and set spending levels, as a percentage of the overall economy, on par with the mid-1960s – before the advent of Medicare and automatic Social Security cost-of-living adjustments.
The development Thursday reflected the reality that there’s more talk than progress as official Washington wrangles daily over finding a way out of a debt dilemma that has the government sliding inexorably toward a first-ever default on its financial obligations.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Thursday the legislation now before his chamber would be an opportunity for lawmakers to “go on record in support of balancing our books or against it.” He urged Democrats to join GOP senators in backing it.
Democrats are expected to kill the measure – which they say would demand debilitating cuts to Medicare – in a vote on Saturday if not before.
Meanwhile, momentum on a separate bipartisan budget plan by the Senate’s “Gang of Six” seemed to ebb as critics warned the measure contains larger tax increases than advertised and it became plain that the measure comes too late and is too controversial to advance quickly – particularly as a part of a debt limit package that already would be teetering on a knife’s edge.
Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., a member of the Gang of Six, said Thursday that some 40 senators of both parties back the plan his group has brought forward. It generally takes 60 votes to pass legislation in the 100-member Senate because the rules permit unlimited debate unless a supermajority votes to limit it.
But Conrad also said he feels there’s too little time between now and Aug. 2 to complete a comprehensive package of spending cuts, benefit program changes and an overhaul of the tax code.
Conrad said doing nothing is not an option, saying that “we‘re all going to have to do things we’d prefer in a perfect world not to have to do.”
Absent a breakthrough between Obama and Republicans, there is a hotly contested backup plan by McConnell that would give Obama broad new powers to obtain increases in the government’s borrowing unless blocked by veto-proof two-thirds margins in both the House and Senate.
Many conservative Republicans are in an uproar over the McConnell plan, and more than 70 House members signed a letter circulated by members of the conservative Republican Study Committee calling on Boehner to come out in public opposition to the McConnell-Reid plan..
In a shift, said Wednesday that Obama would back a short-term deal to prevent a disastrous financial default on Aug. 2 but only if a larger and still elusive deficit-cutting agreement was essentially in place.
Officially, the president continued to push for a big compromise that would cut the nation‘s budget deficit and extend the government’s tapped-out borrowing power above the current $14.3 trillion cap. Obama had threatened to veto any stopgap expansion of the nation’s debt limit, at one point last week even challenging House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., not to call his bluff about it.
Carney said if a divided Congress and the White House can agree on a significant deal, Obama would accept a “very short-term extension” of the debt limit to let bigger legislation work its way through Congress.
Obama also is open to the McConnell plan, but it seems barely aloft due to fervent tea party opposition in the House. The hope appears to be that such an option will look a lot better to the House in a week or so, given the lack of other ideas.
The Gang of Six plan has come under assault from critics like House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., who say the plan would increase taxes by $2 trillion over the next 10 years instead of the $1 trillion-plus claimed by proponents like Conrad – a development likely to stunt momentum among Republicans.
The revenue increase is larger than advertised because the $1.2 trillion in new taxes comes on top of an underlying assumption used by Obama’s deficit commission – and incorporated by the Senate group in its plan – that the Bush-era income tax brackets for family income exceeding $250,000 would revert to the higher, Clinton administration levels. The deficit panel’s assumption was made before Obama buckled in December and signed a full extension of the Bush tax cuts.
The Gang of Six plan also earned poor reviews from liberals like Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., who said it would “balance the budget on the backs of the vulnerable.”
And Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon, R-Calif., who is chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, blasted the plan in a missive to his panel members, saying it would cut the Pentagon much too deeply and would unfairly curb military health and retirement benefits.
The Gang of Six plan promises almost $4 trillion in deficit cuts, including an immediate 10-year, $500 billion down payment that would come as Congress sets caps on the agency budgets it passes each year. It also requires an additional $500 billion in cost curbs on federal health care programs, cuts to federal employee pensions, curbs in the growth of military health care and retirement costs, and modest cuts to farm subsidies.
Meanwhile, during an interview with Rush Limbaugh Thursday, the House Speaker was adamant about not having reached any kind of deal with Democrats, telling Limbaugh “There is no deal. No deal publicly, no deal privately. There is absolutely no deal. ”
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Comments (182)
showmerancher
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:38pmAs if Boehner has sufficient credibility that I would believe anything he says. Face it, Republicans will continue to sell out their constituents until their constituents take to the streets of Washington D.C. a al Egypt. Perhaps THEN they’ll begin to see that the people are serious; but I’ve got my doubts about even that.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:12pm“Democrats argue that the so-called ‘cut, cap and balance’ measure would impose untenable spending restraints…”
Experience suggests that any spending restraint is considered untenable by the democrats.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:22pmUp or Down, Yea or Nay. We want a vote. I want to know where each and every one of them stand. No hiding behind your words, no hiding where you stand. Put yourself on record if you have the guts to stand for something. Election is coming, Judgement is coming. We have to know who is for the PEOPLE and who is for the PARTY…Pitchforks, torches and lampposts await, the people are getting tired of the crap….Just sayin’
Report Post »getalong
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:45pmIf the Republicans cave – they can say goodbye to the 2012 elections. They seem to be deaf to what the American people want which is NO NO NO to spending, cutting taxes for businesses to stimulate job growth, and get the federal government out of our kitchens, our schools, our churches, and our personal lives. Laws are decided by the people, NOT BY government who think they know better. It is time for Boehner to dry his tears, and start showing some balls. Geez!!!!!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:10pmHe is the Man! He worked for Reagan and has survived dozens of debt ceiling hassles – every single one Passed, as they should.
JB will make sure the country he loves does the right thing, even as the Freshmen and Candidates wet themselves. he even got Grover Norquist to agree on TV that reversing the Temporary the Bush tax cuts will not a count as a 2012 Tax Increase.
TE
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:22pmThis sounds like Boehner trying to cover his backside before HE caves. Boehner and Cantor, the spineless/ posturing/ caving brothers, are the ones who have been in on the backroom negotiating with the sociopath potus. If anyone caves, it will be those two and they will be on their own and they can kiss their careers in congress good-bye. The house won’t back them. imho
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:52pmIf any Republican caves on a debt deal, vote them out next year. I know I’m going too.
Report Post »Pelling1020
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 7:32pmHow come ole’ Nancy P could intimidate every Dem. member to vote for anything she wanted? Boehner must not be able to kick butt, you think?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:02pmThe Tbaggers are brag the GOP down in flames.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 9:09pmIf we take to the streets we will playing into their hands. Martial Law anyone?
Report Post »fixer
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 2:19amif we marched on washington and hung about 20-30 of the worst of em from the lamp posts,maybe the rest of them would figure out we ain’t fooling around anymore!
Report Post »eyestoseeearstohear
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:38pmPlease Check this out:
http://www.birthersummit.org/
We MUST bind together…
Report Post »liesnomore
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:37pmIf they cave and hand Obama defict spending for the next 18 months with savings in the out years they are out of their minds-
Report Post »You want cuts- Unspent stimulus taken back, 200,000 new federal employees since Obama hired- laid off, Obama tells us all our rich he is- how ’bout he decline his presidental pension as a show of good will, Social Security to be means tested? How about Congressional pensions means tested – Pelosi your out Reid- Out, Kerry- Out. How about THEY all go into the health care exchange with the rest of us
Recent pay raises- taken back
Ever notice how they all stand up and talk about shared sacrifice for all Americans THEY are never included?
Cookie Parker
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:59pmI did notice you didn’t include the republican tea baggers giving up their government run health care.
It’s about the budget and the HOUSE has not submitted ONE budget deal. The debt ceiling is a simple act of voting to raise it as the republicans did 8 times under Bush
Report Post »booger71
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:21pmSure they have Cookie, the Senate did not vote on it. From 09-10 (2 years) the Super majority Democratic Congress, and Presidency, did not pass a budget.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:25pm@Cookie Parker
Just because the Republicans made a mistake doesn’t mean the Democrats have to double down.
Report Post »jhrusky
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:30pm@Cookie Parker
So, do you run your household finance in the same way you are suggesting we run our country? When one credit card is full, do you just apply for and get another one?
If you have any grey matter at all between your ears you must know that you can only borrow so much money before the lender cuts you off and begins forclosure and repossession. We simply cannot afford to go further and further in the hole. Contrary to what this government is telling everyone inflation is going through the roof. More borrowing will mean more and more inflation and it’s getting hard to make ends meet now. The is most apparent at the grocery store — what used to be $110/week of groceries is now around $150/week. Tires for vehicles are up almost 50% over 2 years ago. Everything else is on the way up as well. We have to accept the reality that we’ve overspent and overborrowed and overemployed in the government. While it will be painful to stop borrowing now, it will be much more painful in 4/8/16 years when it becomes forced upon us by the note holders.
Wake up and realize while both parties are guilty of getting us to this point, someone must become responsible and start the fix and healing process. The Dems (and many Reps) don’t seem to want to do this and that means we must have them replaced with those who understand this and will see it out.
Report Post »Pelling1020
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 7:48pmCookie,
Report Post »You should stick to baking Christmas cookies, I bet they are tasty.
DeliverUsFromEvil
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 8:03pmGeez, Cookie. Make an argument don’t just resort to name-calling. It invalidates your position.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:36pmIf anybody believes this whimpering RINO, contact me. I’ve got a bridge to sell them.
I hope Dick Morris is right on how this is going to unfold, but Republicans have been notoriously candy-assed the last 10 years. I would be willing to bet the actual deal that gets passed resembles the Gang-of-7-crooks’ bill more than the CC&B bill.
For once in my life, I’d like to be “pleasantly” surprised.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:49pmMister Morris is rightly named, as is mister Armey.
Code Orange is the best Speaker of the house ever, he makes Gingrich seem like a softie and makes Pelosi look like a femmie. He makes little mister Can’tor look like a just Cannot-or.
He will pull this off like a barroom apron after closing time.
TEA
Report Post »Fantastic Four
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 9:05pmthe Libs spend the money, talk down Repubs and make regulations 24/7
the GOP go home and only are open for shop from the hours 10:00 AM – 2:00 PM Monday – Thursday Closed Friday Saturday and Sunday
Report Post »amsmith41974
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:33pmI think Boehner is a spelunker.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:22pmThe correct term is caver. Cavers rescue spelunkers.
Report Post »lynda1276
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:33pmstand firm!!!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:04pmJB will stand firm in saving our wonderful country from the thoughtless damage of not-useful idiots.
TEA
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:33pmI smell a rat…….A BIG FAT STINK BOMB of a rat! And so does Limbaugh, that was obvious when Boehner called into Rush‘s show in a panic to explain what’s going on behind closed doors. If it’s done in secret, as Rush has said himself, they couldn‘t be too very proud of what they’re cooking up. IT’S A STINKER!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:41pmI’m inclined to agree with this.
Report Post »blue_sky
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:52pm“Only THIS year budget counts”, says Dr, Ron Paul who voted against the bill, “No Deals, since the bill adds more than trillion dollar in debt to our budget this year.”
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:43pmThey cave .. THEY LOSE!
TEA!
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 7:24pmGoes to show just how powerful Limbaugh is. If these pantywaists cave on this, I’m done with the Republican party. I’ll stay home in 2012 and you can have Obama for 4 more years and declares himself Fuhrer. Then we can really bring this country to war and quit all this pussyfooting around. Get it out in the open and choose sides and let the most armed win.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:31pmBoehner and the republicans had better stand tough and not fold in any form. If they do…they will find a 3rd party in the mix and Obama may get another chance to continue his destruction of the US.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:40pmI am convinced that at this stage of the game, this is what is going to have to happen so that the majority of Americans wake up and act like Americans. It is going to take an Obama re-election for this to happen.
People are too stupid now. They think that if they wish crap away, it’ll go away. Not until crap gets unbearingly bad, will things change. Look around – are Republicans like Cry Baby on the edge of their seats frothing at the mouth to get things changed? Hell no! They’re in la-la land – they have no idea what’s about to happen – and is actually happening with regards to about 20% of Americans. Once it hits 50%, they’re done; cooked; finished.
So, it may take some additional pain, but things are going to swing back into our direction, or the country is slowly rotting from the inside out. Either way, we’ll get an answer within 5 years.
Report Post »LinkedIn G
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:31pmThe Liberals love the “Gang of Six” plan…The Liberals accept the McConnel plan…The Liberals HATE the Cut, Cap, and Balance plan…That alone should tell you something. I believe there is no way of turning this country around relying on Liberal policies. ANY bill that uses Liberal ideals will push us further downhill. It’s a win-win for the Republicans. If the CC&B passes…good for the country, good for the Republicans…if one of the other two plans pass…bad for the country, good for the Republicans. There is no way the Liberals will come out of this looking good…unless Liberal Tax and Spend miraculously turns the country around.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:30pmSteady Boehner, don’t go all wobbly on us. You’re the last hope of this thing turning out semi well. The Senate already caved. Hero or goat buddy, how do you want to be remembered?
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:38pmThese guys (Pubs) need to go to India and learn how to negotiate. They really suck at it… especially since they have the “upper hand”.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:44pmThe optimist in me says to relax. Cry Baby understands the end game. He’s playing the left like the fools they are.
Then, the pessimist in me asks what Cry Baby has done thus far in his tenure that would lead any reasonable mind to conclude anything other than his eventual caving???
My pessimist wins out, much to my chagrin.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:51pmSupport the Orange man unconditionally, he is more intelligent than the Freshmen. And smarter, too.
Report Post »bhelmet
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:29pmBoehner has LOST every negotiation with the Dems thus far and I believe this will end the same way. Biggest losers: the American people. This guy is a joke and I hope we can get some REAL leadership before it is too late – and it just might be. I view bankruptcy as FAR better than business as usual and it appears FAR too many want business as usual.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:31pmHe hasn’t lost yet. Wait until it’s over then, if he caves, have at him.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:06pmJB will save the country and then you will go after him. But you can’t do anything because he cannot be voted out.
TEA
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:19pmHe needs to start getting bills past that disarms the rules and regulations that Obama and his czars keep imposing on us. Just keep over en-dating the senate with bill after bill that moves toward constitutional government and removes all the government socialistic practices. Put the power back into congress and remove it from the agencies of government.
Report Post »Lone Star Girl
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:22pmThe problem I see is this: We are out of time! Where in past years Americans were debating what America should mean and battling back and forth for our own viewpoints, we are now at a place in history where our very existence is at stake. No longer do we have the luxury for such academic pursuits. To be really honest, it is probably already too late to save the republic in any form that I would recognize. For all practical purposes, America is a car – speeding towards the edge of a cliff. The Democrats have the foot on the gas, confident that the cliff is not real; while Republicans are too focused on meaningless gestures like the recent 38 billion dollar cut in spending, to know how to bring the car to a stop short of the cliff. The issue is that without an extreme change in course there is no longer enough time to stop. It makes little difference to the ultimate result of the crash if we as a nation have the gas pedal pressed to the floor or if we simply coast over the edge. Either way America is a burning wreck at the bottom. The political class has stolen more money by causing inflation than any other criminal in history. I guess the president can get his tax increase even if no new taxes are passed by simply inflating the currency thus moving citizens into higher tax brackets.
Report Post »amsmith41974
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:30pmThe republicans aren’t trying to stop the car, they’re telling the Dems to follow the speed limit.
Report Post »usnavyflyer
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:31pmWow, that was depressing…probably cause there is truth in it. Though I will never give up hope.
Report Post »white_wolves
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:22pmThat is a load of BS. He is a fraud as well as the rest of the ‘Gang of 6’. How dare they mess with our lives as to further themselves. Idiots don‘t understand that when they’ve recieved their peices of silver then they will find out that they made a grave mistake. I wish I could look every one of those fake conservatives and constatutionalists in the eyes and tell them what big bafoons they are. I Pray for our country and for the rest of the republicans to stand firm against this. We don’t need more burdens placed on our shoulders!
Report Post »I believe it is time we all organized and crowded the streets of Washington to show that ‘We the People’ stand against Obama and his dolts. I believe it is time we forcibly took them all from office (no violence) and replaced them with competent folks who have the nations best interests in hand.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:22pmAfter all the emails I sent him, he better not cave. You Kentuckians better talk to McConnell about the McConnell/Reid plan. Obama doesn’t need anymore power!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:09pmBoehner and McConnell cannot be voted out, or they would have been gone long ago. They will save the country.
This is exactly the doomsday scenario our Founders created the Constitution to address for us.
TEA
Report Post »AIDANMAN
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:19pmgreat picture….
Report Post »caexpat
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:19pmThey will cave
Report Post »freedomweiner
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:00pmThis was in the bag all along and just another in a long series of puppet shows, executive orders, and other crimes too numerous to mention.
They can take this Smart meter and put it where the sun don`t shine. I want my friggin` light bulbs and food that doesn`t taste like wood pulp and plutonium.
Report Post »NJTMATO
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:18pmNO DEAL!!! Anyone who votes to raise the debt ceiling and cower to the Dems will find out about losing THEIR job rather quickly. Elections have a way of coming around. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT A CONSERVATIVE!
Report Post »agameofthrones
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:31pmHe had better not cave. I do not understand why these Republican act like whipped puppies. They have the better plan and the support of the people. What the heck. Just do the right thing. It’s not rocket science. Do not compromise with the Dems!!!!
Report Post »LibertyGirl USA
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:18pmStand firm Boehner! Please don’t disappoint!
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 6:15pmi don’t think Boehner will cave on this one, the stakes are to high. E-MAIL YOUR REPS, TELL THEM TO STAND STRONG.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 10:45pmThats a good one Girl! LMAO
Report Post »CrackersSmurf
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:17pmGive this man a rope and a helmet with alight on it….he is going caving.
Report Post »paulusmaximus
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:17pmWhat’s so complicated? Democrats say their for the people, care about the elderly and children, but their action prove otherwise. This country can live within it’s means and still provide for those really in need.Fiscal responsibility is the best way to help everyone and will insure the incomes of everyone are safe. If they won‘t vote cut cap and balance it proves it’s their own pockets they really care about.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:15pmWall Street insiders know what’s going on, they have signaled that there will be a compromise by the action of the stock market the past few days.
Report Post »TADTAD
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:20pmI agree. The market already knows.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:51pmAlso agree and wonder how anybody can put confidence into the market as a result? I mean, they know and we know they both are living on borrowed time. A compromise today only puts off the eventual fall – which will come.
I just wish everybody would leave their gosh-darned hands off EVERYTHING and let the free market straighten it out. The current market is a reflection of a complete sham.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:12pmIf Boehner folds, he’s gotta go along with obama and the rest of the big government a-holes.
Report Post »Even if he doesn’t fold, it‘s pretty apparent he can’t be trusted.
MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:11pmThe Orange-man is the REAL DEAL!
Code Orange (J Boehner) never Caves, and anyone who thinks so is a RINO!
You can cry me a river if you think JB can’t keep the lid on this deal. He is more of a man than Colonel West, and by the way he too can fist down Debbie Wassermann-Schultz in less than 4 rounds (1.5 minutes of fighting with 2 minute break).
TEA
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:20pmBoehner makes me want to vomit.
That the resolve of the GOP lies in the hands of that ninny is telling about who the GOP really is.
Report Post »white_wolves
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:25pmMore of a man than Colonel West? My is that the overstatement of the year. Mr. West served his country for 22 years and stands strong and firm on his principles. He represents everything that is good in America. Furthermore he is not afraid to tear the left apart when appropriate. He doesn’t sell out America for anything. When he makes a promise to the American people he keeps it.
Report Post »white_wolves
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:29pmFurthermore, hasn’t Boehner already caved on other things and broken his promise to Tea Party Activists and the like? I mean look at the so called cuts he voted for that had billions cut but then turned out out he voted for no real cuts at all. He is a fool and will be treated as such.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:44pmCode Orange is a mature politician, with real experience, whereas Scrappy-Coco is a whippersnapper and hothead.
If you want to get things done, go for the old bulls.
TEA
Report Post »white_wolves
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:54pmYeah experience doesn’t come with values so sorry… that dog won’t hunt. I’d like you to name some really big positive things Boehner has done for his country. I’d like you to tell me how exactly Mr. West isn‘t a better man the the ’Orange Man’.
Report Post »umreb78
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 5:22pmWolves and Rothbardian…Why DO you two even acknowledge the existence if Monicne…If you don’t know, he’e the Blaze resident basement dwelling (in his parents house, of course), *******, who, if he knew what it meant, would be calling himself a socialist. True, he is far more stupid than the trolls they assign to a lot of intelligent conservatives site, but damn it he’s ours. Seriously, though, the best way to handle this mental box of rocks is to completely ignore him. No, he won’t go away but when you ignore him usually he grabs his dolls and skulks into the corner to play with himself. One more thing, this clown’s so stupid sometimes he logs on under a different name….The one he’s using today spelled backwards…lol….how clever.
Report Post »the old man
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:10pmProblem;
Report Post »Democrats and or Republicans
Options;
Would I rather be stabbed or shot to death
solution
I’m going to be dead either way……:)
Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:18pmSeriously.
I mean, we all know how this is going to end right? Obama will scare old people and play the class warfare card about “fat cats”. All the milktoast, RINO Republicans will cave at the last minute. We’ll raise taxes and the cuts will never happen.
It’s a JOKE!!!! Any idiot that keeps voting for these fools gets the country they deserve.
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Posted on July 21, 2011 at 4:09pmHa! They know who the leader really is.
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