Jon Stewart Attacks Atheists Over Ground Zero Cross Lawsuit: ‘Why Do You Give a Sh*t?’
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Last night, comedian Jon Stewart weighed in on the Ground Zero cross controversy. More specifically, he targeted the lawsuit that a group of atheists is waging in an effort to prevent the cross’ display at the soon-to-open 9/11 Memorial and Museum in New York City.
Stewart took a stance in support of the cross’ display and against those opposing it, asking atheists:
“…why do you give a sh*t? That cross is an artifact. It was found at Ground Zero. It has come to mean something to people who view it as a symbol of comfort.”
These comments mirror those of New York City Michael Bloomberg, whose open support for the cross The Blaze has documented. Mediaite has more about Stewart’s comedic rant against the atheists opposed to the project:
[Stewart mocked]…the president of the American Association of Atheists for making “even those indifferent to our cause” hate them. Given that the atheist symbol was the atom, Stewart proposed replacing the cross in a way that would satisfy the devout and the heretic: instead of a cross made up of tiny atoms, an atom made up of tiny crosses.
Watch Stewart discuss the 9/11 cross, below:
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Comments (286)
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:36amI have to admit, as much as I normally cannot stand Stewart; once in awhile, such as here, he does make a fine point to take something to task. And this matter of the Atheists suing over a recovered artifact from the debrie of the Twin Towers is ludicris.
lillymckim
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:40amSo one time out of how many shows Jon Stewart finally shows perception
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:44amCalling it a ‘recovered artifact’ is almost seems like a bit of a stretch even! It’s building debris… Calling it an artifact makes it seem almost like it was something important before the building came down.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:45amEven a broken clock is right twice a day.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:56amWell….. for this Jon Stewart….Thank you. May you come to know Him who was nailed to one.
Report Post »six6six
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:20amWell, someone who actually looks at the issue and then states his opinion. That’s so refreshing and different from the bozo who created this web site who reacts very predictably to every issue.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:21am.
Report Post »Did Jon get it right?….I think I see a bright light…….
MBA
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:59amSnowleopard: I agree. Well said Mr. Stewart.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:02amStill Not Watching®
Report Post »Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:03amWhat’s “ludicris” is Christians thinking they, since they are the super majority, can walk over other belief systems and only allow their cross to go up. This lawsuit isn’t about taking the cross down forever, its about taking it down *UNTIL* other belief systems are allowed to honor the dead as well. Not everyone that died on 9/11 were Christian.
The cross could go up today, right now even… All that needs to happen is for whoever is over the decision to play fair and allow other belief systems to be represented.
Report Post »selfgov1st
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:07amLocked, don’t fall for the propaganda that the Mosque near ground zero is a “community center.” Muslims believe it is ok to lie to infidels in order to promote the Muslim agenda. Our media is more than happy to believe their lies and pass them on to us.
I recommend you research the Muslim history of building mosques near “victory sites” as a symbol. 9-11 is considered a Muslim victory against the United States and the construction of a Mosque near it represents their “conquest.”
Please refer to these sites below.
http://muqata.blogspot.com/2010/08/victory-mosque.html
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/ground-zero-mosque-tawfik-hamid-hamas-obama-bloomberg/2010/08/18/id/367823
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:17amAnyone else see the IRONY that the towers were brought down by splitting Uranium 235 atoms!!
The white smoke rising from GZ is Aluminum oxide evaporating out from the rubble due to extreme heat. Dust data presented by Steven E. Jones backs up 40million cubic ft of bedrock granite being turned to plasma, settling on NY is solid phase.
Report Post »Jones’ “thermite theory” never took shape until Dimitri Khalezov released his book. He sent copies to congress.
All the “unexplained” evidence is summed up by nuclear demolition.
IT’S A FACT!!!
Flagwaver
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:29amHe has some good thoughts.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:24am@Taneras, do you support the Cordoba House project? If you have a problem with religious symbols and other displays of worship, certainly you must have an opinion regarding the mosque of conquest the muslims wish to build in the immediate vicinity of Ground Zero.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:41pmThere is still hope for jon….maybe.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 1:50pm@SNOW: Hey Guy…I noticed where you had responded over on Glenn’s web to the article regarding Norquist…thought you might find this MORE than a little interesting…wonder why The Blaze is not reporting on it so we can post comments? This is a long read, but I promise you that you WILL be educated about Grover Norquist!
“A Troubling Influence”, by Frank L. Gaffney, Jr
From Front Page Magazine (on line) 2003
http://archive.frontpagemag.co...
Who is Grover Norquist? You’ve got to be kidding me?
Report Post »Ranubis
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:17pm@Taneras
Report Post »What’s “ludicrous” is you. Try reading my post under the topic you started! You have got to be the most ignorant and self centered SOB I have ever had the unpleasure of coming in contact with. You just don‘t get and never will because you don’t have the mental capacity to get. Stewart is right, it’s piss ants like you that make atheists look bad.
VanGrungy
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:32pm“What’s “ludicris” is Christians thinking they, since they are the super majority, can walk over other belief systems and only allow their cross to go up.”
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What system does Atheism create?
You can’t be Atheist if you give a s**t about what religious people are doing.. That’s called acknowledgment.. no longer Atheism…
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:45pmDozens of times now there has been a Jon Stewart clip on here that people in the comments say “this one time i like what he said” and especially “even a broken clock is right twice a day” so at what point to people realize that Stewart regularly says things that people agree with and disagree with?
Report Post »You just want to hate him on party lines not because you have a clear idea of how he does his show.
Zer0
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:55pmHey, atheists!!! Your intolerance is showing!
Report Post »celtictexan
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:06pmIt’s just a ******* trick. He’s just trying to look “fair and balanced”.
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:06pmWatch his other hand.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 4:20pmEven a broken clock is right twice a day.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 4:27pmBIBLEQUOTING..the problem with Stewart isn’t that he can occasionally be right, it‘s that he’s mostly on the wrong side of an argument and clearly a liberal at heart. Just like Obama’s aptly named “Carney” today who stated that “the white house doesn’t create jobs” after nearly three years of Obama telling us the government can indeed create jobs (or “save and create” if you want to swallow that line). So no…just like Carney..you don’t give Stewart credit for being measured and accurate when clearly both are usually on the wrong side of the argument. And quite honestly…giving a so-so comedian too much weight as a political and social analyst is a dangerous thing.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 4:40pmAnd furthermore BIBLEQUOTING..Stewart exhibits that quaint liberal characteristic…of not acknowledging the motive behind a person’s actions (arab spring and the muslim brotherhood ring a bell?). He asks “why do you give a sh*t?” as if it’s not obvious? Militant atheists want to eradicate all reference to religion (particually christianity) from public view. By holding that cross (“naturally formed” from the falling of the towers) in esteem and as Stewart correctly states..gave comfort to the people on the site… the cross takes on a value beyond simply a Christian symbol. To immortalize it in a 9/11 museum is to keep the positive aura of a christian symbol in the public memory forever..a memory that holds great solemnity and solidarity to the American people. This is anathema to the militant atheist who is working diligently to dilute and eradicate christianity from the American way of life. Are you getting it now BIBLEQUOTING? Steward clearly doesn’t get it.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 5:55pmI want that cross beam tested for nano thermite
then they can turn it into a memorial.
also Jon is funny
Report Post »Midwest Blonde
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:57pm@SacredHonor1776
Well, it was obviously important enough before 9-11 – it WAS part of the structure holding up the building!!! *sarcasm intended*
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:02pmI agree with Jon on this one.
But I have another thought. This website posts Stewart and the Huffington Post and whomever else when they disagree with the President. The thought is that, “even the liberals disagree with Obama!”
But here’s another perspective. Yes, Stewart and HuffPo and Maddow and other liberals DO disagree with President Obama on a lot of things. They’re liberal to be sure, but they have opinions of their own, and express them.
Contrast that to FOX. You will NEVER hear a positive thing about Democrats or Obama on that station. Not ever, even though they claim to be “fair and balanced.” Obama buys a dog for his kids, FOX criticizes that, if he takes his wife to dinner, he’s critized. It doesn’t matter what he does, corporate policy is to never say a single positive thing about Obama, and spin even the silliest thing as a negative.
That’s the difference between Maddow, HuffPo and FOX. The former have independent opinions and express them. The latter are 100% negative, every day no matter what happens. See the difference?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:34pmHey JZS,
Copying and pasting your own old posts again huh?
You tried once before to get this one past, and you were swiftly rebuked.
“See the difference” you ask?
The only thing I see is that you are a two bit, lying socialist, and will keep spewing the same lies over and over, with the hope that sooner or later one of them might stick.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 12:03amHey JZS,
One more thing, your premise is faulty.
You claim that your buddies disagree with Obama on the air, but Fox NEVER says anything nice about him, (which, by the way is a lie).
What you really need to be asking is this:
1. Did anyone on FOX ever openly find fault with GW? (Answer is yes, yes, and yes again)
2. Did anyone on MSNBC ever say anything nice about George Bush? (I can’t say with certitude, but I highly doubt it)
See the difference?
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 3:20amI don’t watch him, but when I see clips of him he’s either funny (to me) or he’s saying what I think… I am anything but a liberal. If this man keeps telling HIS truth, he may end up with a huge audience. At least he‘s not an arrogan SOB like O’Reilly….who will tell you in a heartbeat that he has all the solutions; he will “fix” things; and he has this massive international audience. Right.
Stewart is right about this. IF I didn’t believe in GOD, I wouldn’t care if someone else did…just like I don’t believe (well, I was gonna say Santa…but that’s not true. I do believe in Santa)… okay I don’t believe in Buddha…but I don’t mind in the least that others do. This HATRED that these people have is abnormal. GOOD FOR STEWART !!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 10:40amYou find little morsels, but face it, Jon’s just not that into you. :^)
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 11:24amJzs
Oh you are ever the defender of all things Obama. We don’t care for Marxism,socialism, or communism. How stupid are you anyway?
To think that you will ever be loved by capitalists or that We will cheerlead every action to destroy the last free country on earth is a real stretch. I don’t have anything nice to say about moochers and looters either are you gonna defend them too?
You are free. You are American. Try acting like one sometime. You might like it.
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 11:27amOne other thing blockhead, if maher or Stewart is on here you say why does the blaze post it. These idiots get plenty of time on the blaze to bash beck and the tea party. Why shouldn’t they be here when they bash Obama, atheists, or lefties?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 12:29pmSLAPTHELEFT ask jzs, “How stupid are you anyway?” Slap, that’s a loaded question, like “are you still beating your wife.” My only response is that I must be pretty stupid or I wouldn’t spend time posting here.
Billy, I’ll give you a few points on the issue of FOX and George Bush. He probably was critized. Fair enough. Perhaps you can find a postive remark about Obama from FOX on youtube or something? I doubt it, but maybe. If you can find a positive remark from Beck or Limbaugh, I’ll cry uncle.
Also, I am not a “two bit socialist.” How dare you! You blockhead! And besides, no one says “two bit” anymore. You have to be over 50. Anyway, when I get my autogenerated insult computer program running I’ll send it to you. Unfortunately, it now produces insults like, “you lying socialist schweinhund!” so it’s not ready for prime time yet.
Report Post »thetreyman
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 3:29pm@Taneras
Report Post »you are correct. not all were christian. in fact some of the first dead were muslim.
UNCLEBUBBAJONES
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 10:56pmIt’s true..this guy can be as far left as the rest of the media..but sometimes he actually pulls his head out of his ass for some air. A couple months ago, he actually credited his nemisis Bill O and Fox News for covering a story that the rest of the media was ignoring…go figure!
Report Post »BlueStrat
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 3:19amI found an excellent description of the common Atheist mindset. I found it brilliant and truly enlightening. It makes me almost feel sorry for their poor empty souls.
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Regarding atheists, they hide behind “burden of proof is on you!” to avoid coming up with their own answers as to how the hell this universe even began, how you get something from nothing in terms of linear time and therefore cause-and-effect, and how this does not ultimately contradict itself. They prefer to remain totally silent on all such questions while tearing down the answers of others to those same inquiries.
This is cowardice and I won’t call it other than it is. The ones who are especially smug and self-assured are putting on a front very much the opposite of the insecurity and hollowness they feel. They actually do belong to a religion, an equal and opposite to any they abhor, for they too accept an article of faith which cannot be proven: that having not (yet?) found objective evidence for a thing means it must not exist. By that criteria, if you lived in the 1500s then radio waves “did not exist”, since there did not exist yet the technology to send and receive them.
Report Post »wavy1953
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 9:12pmAmerica is built on christian principals. Hay you athests! Deal with it.
Report Post »hi
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:34amI never see atheist groups suing over Islamic displays, only Christian ones.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:43amso true and you never hear ole’ Bill Maher spewing his hatred toward Islamic groups
Report Post »normbal
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:35amBecause the muslims play for keeps and everyone, everyone, knows there is a very real risk that you will be targeted by muslim extremists if you speak out. Maybe now today. Maybe not tomorrow, but you will be eventually. If not you then your children, or their children. Enshallah.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:35amAnd you never hear of Christians demonstrating against community centers a few blocks away from Ground Zero either, right? :-P
Report Post »Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:14amBecause when Islamic displays are allowed, its usually because all displays are allowed.
What happened here, which is usually the case nation wide, is only allow the Christian symbol. Other belief systems were denied access to place up their symbols. American Atheists filed a lawsuit requesting that the Cross be removed *UNTIL* other belief systems are allowed the same right. This is about equal representation.
The Cross could go up today, all it takes is for the people over this to allow other belief systems to put up their symbols.
Report Post »KPEdwards
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:25am@TANERAS
My problem with that logic is that other religious symbols were not barred from being entered into the museum based on religion. This group‘s atom isn’t being added to the museum because it has nothing to do with the scope of events the museum is covering.
The reason this piece is being added to the museum’s collection, and being exhibited is because it was part of the history surrounding the event. In the eyes of the museum (and thus the state – if the museum is being run by the PANYNJ), this piece is first and foremost a historical artifact, and its ties to religion merely explains why it was important and thus a historical artifact.
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:37amLet’s not forget about the highway crosses in Utah that were erected to honor the fallen highway patrol officers. With the consent of all family members involved BTW. the only difference there was the argument was about the separation of church and state.
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Report Post »thoseontheleftwillbecast
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:58pmThat‘s the same reason people only use Jesus’ name when cursing. Christianity is the real one. The real truth.
Report Post »derbys_mom
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:32pmyou’re right, wonder why that is.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:16pmlillymckim, judging from your other comments, its clear that you don’t know much. try googling “bill maher” and “muslims” and see what you get. he hates muslims.
Report Post »Middle Finger
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:38pmBecause they are in league with them to take control of this country. The Athiests, Communists, Leninists, Marxists, and Muslims will side against Christians and Jews for this nation.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:38pmbill maher rips on muslims, left and right.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/01/bill_maher_on_muslims
http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-maher-koran-un-murders-sullivan-video-2011-4
on top of a million youtube videos of him crushing muslims. wake up r@tard.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:49pmHey Clive,
Did you ever google the meaning of “Indoctrination”?
Report Post »Or were you too busy getting drunk with girls?
SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 11:35amThat’s because they are cowards. They are deathly afraid of Islam because they know the religion calls for deniers to be executed. They also know that we will tolerate them because our country is free. Once the Christians are gone the sword of conversion will be at their throat.
Then we will truly see how “freethinking” they really are.
Report Post »ConservativeResponse
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:32amAs I said before, Stewart isn’t always wrong. But if you ask me, I think he’s purposefully playing both sides to gain viewership which makes him brilliant. Who really knows what the hell he actually believes in?
Report Post »SgtHenick
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:37amMoney
Report Post »NSDQ
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:43amThe Steven Crowder debacle exposed him as holding up a leftist agenda. I think he’s trying harder to appear centrist since then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdW4geJ-lik
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:45amThat is the capitalist way! We are all out to make money!
Report Post »KPEdwards
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:15amI‘m pretty sure he believes they’re being schmucks, because I‘m pretty sure they’re being schmucks.
As an atheist myself, I loathe this sort of things that are done tangentially in my name. You know, it‘s like how it’s always more annoying when someone who is arguing your point argues it wrong. This cross is a part of the history surrounding the event. It happened there. People who found it thought it to be significant. While I might not, I find the fact that this became a significant artifact an interesting comment on humanity – how humanity will look for hope even within its ruins, or some such academic, metaphysical, probably-looking-way-too-deep sort of stuff.
To me, it was like a giant Rorschach test – I‘m sure people could’ve found whatever structure that they wanted to find, but this is the one that many people focused on. Obviously, this is ignoring considerations of news of this piece had to be consciously selected over other news pieces at the time, but that’s all nuance. Plus, I’m not writing a thesis here so cut me a little slack on academic rigor.
Report Post »Qoheleth
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:31am“Even a broken watch tells the correct time twice a day.”
Report Post »I’ll give Stewart credit for getting this one right and directing his vitriol against some real idiots. I’m fairly strong on the whole Religious Freedom/Separation of Church & State idea, but the atheists are taking it way too far for me.
Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:18amHow far are they taking it exactly? Have you seen what they are pushing for? They are pushing for the cross to be taken down until all other belief systems can put up their symbols. As of now, only a Christian Cross and Jewish Star are being allowed up – and the Jewish Star is being allowed only after the lawsuit was filed (probably in an attempt to appear as if they are trying to be fair to other religions).
Bottom line: Only the Christian Cross was going to be allowed, the atheist group is pushing for the cross to be taken down until other belief systems get the same respect.
Is that going to far? Asking for equality?
Report Post »Ranubis
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:05pmagain Taneras your a complete moron, read the comment I posted under the topic you started.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:57pmA cross is not a rorsach test and hasn’t been for 20000yrs. That it is an artifact and part of the history of that ground zero site is simply due to the fact that they were allowed to keep that structure there to bring comfort as you say to the workers there.That it symbolizes the unity people felt at the time is also due to the fact that they were allowed to keep that structure there.They were allowed to keep that structure there because it was a cross and [presumably] people working there were christians or sympathetic to christians finding solace in a christian cross.That was then. The christians and their supporters of the cross got a pass. That they should continue to get a pass is to now give assent to one religious symbol; over another.Instead a photo of the cross should be in the museum as part of the historical record of the clean up of ground zero[along with whatever other photos or artifacts are used].To have that actual christian cross displayed affirms that that christians have center stage in this narrative .We have seperation of church and state and the attack was on america[new york] and not on christianity.If it was aan attack on christianity then it was not an attack on america. We have not declared a crusade and that cross should not be displayed as representative of new yorkers or america.Though the intent of a few [the workers there who insisted it be kept there all that time] may wish to construe the narrative that way.It is an inamerican narrative..
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:26amShort, and kinda funny.
Report Post »NWalters78
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:25amWell, for once me and Jon Stewart are in agreement. If you (atheists) don’t believe in God or any gods, why do you give a sh##? If He doesn’t exist, as you say, what’s your effing concern? Your concern? Well, it’s simple, they are faithless bastards and they figure if IT (faith, spiritualism) doesn’t work for them, then no one should have it. Spoiled brats, if you ask me.
Mark my words, people are sick of turning the other cheek.
Report Post »stpppim
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:21amBecause “The world is perishing from an orgy of altruism” – From The Fountainhead, by Ayn Rand
Capitalism is perishing for lack of a moral base and of a full philosophical defense.
Report Post »Sensing their need of a moral base, many “conservatives” decided to choose religion as their moral justification; they claim that America and capitalism are based on faith in God. Politically, such a claim contradicts the fundamental principles of the United States: in America, religion is a private matter which cannot and must not be brought into political issues.
Intellectually, to rest one‘s case on faith means to concede that reason is on the side of one’s enemies—that one has no rational arguments to offer. The “conservatives’” claim that their case rests on faith, means that there are no rational arguments to support the American system, no rational justification for freedom, justice, property, individual rights, that these rest on a mystic revelation and can be accepted only on faith—that in reason and logic the enemy is right, but men must hold faith as superior to reason.
stpppim
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:24amConsider the implications of that theory. While the collectivists claim that they are the representatives of reason and science, the ‘conservatives” concede it and retreat into the realm of mysticism, of faith, of the supernatural, into another world, surrendering this world to collectivism. It is the kind of victory that the collectivists’ irrational ideology could never have won on its own merits. – Conservatism: An Obituary, by Ayn Rand
Report Post »http://www.ontheborderline.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rand-_conservatismanobituary.pdf
GulfPeg
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:24amThe cross is a way of giving the m o o s e l i m s the 3rd finger, especially if they are going to build the mosque across the street.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:28amIt isn’t even a cross, its a cross-beam…
Maybe you could start saling the idea, that ‘cross-beams’ are insulting to islam! Then they wouldn’t be able to build there ground zero mosque!
Report Post »Freebird
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:56am@sacredhonor1776
Report Post »If it’s only a cross beam,then doesn’t that make all this noise the God-haters are raising,all that much more ridiculous?
rose-ellen
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:20pmThat’s it. The real reason you want a christian cross there at ground zero is because it is the ground zero of your crusade against muslims[at least in your mind].You and your norwegiian cohort. But as a christian symbol it should only be allowed there if other religious and pagan or athiests symbols are allowed.As much as you may wish, you cannot use a federal site as a place where one religion gets endorsed over another. That they let the cross remain at all was a pass they gave to christians,now however you have to respect the consttituional rights of others.And the mosque[islamic community center] in that area is constituionaly protected no matter what goes on in your mind about that too.
Report Post »ColoradoMaverick
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:19amI have to admit, Jon Stewart appears to be turning into a conservative. I used to watch his show because he is a very funny guy, but during the 2008-2009 Obama-palozza, he had his head so far up Obama’s A R S E that he no longer was funny to me. I think he is smart enough to realize that Obama is a phoney, a fraud, a joke. I think he is smart enough to realize that the country is becoming so divided and the crazy hyper sensitive PC movement that has long ago crossed the line from common sense to the utterly insane has made a mockery of America. Atheists can believe or not believe in anything they want. They can Hate Christians, Jews, Muslims, and any other believer’s all they want. What they CANNOT do is force American to abandon their faith in the name of political correctness. The seperation of church and state has nothing to do with the ground zero cross.
Report Post »Thune
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:43amOr he could just be realizing, like every other American, that the militant athiest movement are ********.
Report Post »tozniak
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:47amWishful thinking that Stewart is turning into a conservative. Better luck in hoping that Obama is turning into a free market capitalist. It would be like saying that Bill O’Reilly is turning into a liberal when he rails against big oil profits. Jon Stewart clearly is a committed liberal progressive, not a rabid leftist zombie like Maher but a liberal who conservatives can watch for a laugh or too. I suppose liberals can sometimes stomach to watch O’Reilly on occasion, especially when he interviews the Great Obama.
Report Post »Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:17amI don’t get why he was railing on the atheist group for taking this issue on. The only reason this is an issue is because no other religious symbols were being allowed. When other belief systems wanted to put up their own symbols they were denied. The American Atheists filed a lawsuit trying to take the cross down, not forever, but just until other belief systems could put their symbols up as well. Whoever is over this could have the cross up today if he’d just be fair, and allow other belief systems to put up their symbols.
This has nothing to do with atheists being offended by the cross, it has to do with equality. We all pay taxes, not just Christians died in 9/11, why are we just putting up a cross.
Shame on you Stewart, you didn’t do your homework on this one, or just don’t care about equality when it comes to religious expression. It’s an easy concept, either we all get to do that or no one gets too. As of now, because not everyone gets too, no one is getting too.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:26amThe the piece of junk isn’t a cross, its debris from Ground Zero…
It isn’t a commissioned work of art… It’s a building material…
Do you think people should start banning cross-beams in construction of buildings now?
Report Post »Berealalready
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:34amMaybe if a six sided star or a crescent had fallen out of the collapse you’d have a point?
For the record, I am Jewish and have no issue with this.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:37amBesides, the cross-beam wasn’t put up on the site, it was left over from the wreckage of the site!
That’s a big difference… Its a random junk caused by a planned destruction!
Report Post »Ranubis
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:47amWhy don’t you try to get a better talking point. This was found in the wreckage of the WTC. I’m sure if a Star of David, or a Crescent Moon, or any other piece of debris that looked like it was a holy symbol from another religion was found it would also be displayed. YOU FRACKING D-BAG!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:21amOnce it‘s a cross then it’s a christian symbol.Other religious symbols have to then be there to comfort people of other faiths[the city of new york is not made up of only irish and italian catholics and christians cannot appropriate that site for themselves!
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:57amEllen, you are right, ban all cross-beams from building construction… Because once a cross is made its a religious symbol! We must ban buildings, because they are made up of lots of miniture crosses!
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:04amBTW, I’m not a catholic… I don’t believe what catholics believe. But I also don’t let their right to believe bother me!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:22am“It has been blessed by so-called holy men and presented as a reminder that their god, who couldn’t be bothered to stop the Muslim terrorists or prevent 3,000 people from being killed in his name, cared only enough to bestow upon us some rubble that resembles a cross. It’s a truly ridiculous assertion.” Hmmm…. Looks like no mention of other religious symbols being denied their place at the memorial….
So, this lawsuit sounds reasonable to you? Is “a truly ridiculous assertion” a valid legal argument? For a group that claims to not believe in God, that they don’t believe in religion, that they are “enlightened” enough to not be “duped” by “fairy tales” and “superstition,” they sure are making quite the stink over something they claim to not care about. How is that rational?
But in fairness, do you support the Cordoba House project? If you have a problem with religious symbols and other displays of worship, certainly you must have an opinion regarding the mosque of conquest the muslims wish to build in the immediate vicinity of Ground Zero.
We’ll wait for your enlightened response.
Report Post »Memphismerlin
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:49amTaneras, if they found a piece of the rubble that looked like a Star of David, or a Crescent, or the Atom then I would agree. This is not a symbol that was placed in the rubble, it was found there. For that reason alone is why it is included. It is not a slap at any other religion or belief system.
Report Post »theCREATORisGOD
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:47pmTaneras:
It appears that you my friend have failed to do YOUR homework and have completely missed the point here. We are talking about ruble, wreckage from a fallen building. We are NOT talking about a manufactured cross constructed for the purpose of being a religious symbol to those that believe in Jesus’ death on the cross at Calvary. HUGE difference buddy. The crossed beams were found in that exact manner by some seriously brave men and women who were willing to sacrifice their lives to find the remains of those lost on that horrific day. I wonder how many atheist are apart of this lawsuit that ACTUALLY participated in the search, rescue and recovery mission or who helped clear the site? Are there even any? Let’s compare that number to the number of people who dared to give it all, believers or not, who stumbled upon this “cross” and found solace in it. Please drop the political games and rhetoric and have a freakin heart. My goodness!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 4:32pmThe problem for you Rose-Ellen is that the cross “formed naturally” as a result of the towers falling. The towers fell as a result of certain zealous practioners of the “religion of peace and tolerance” deciding that 3000 innocent people needed to die along with the crews and passengers of the planes they hijacked. The cross gave comfort and inspiration to the workers who subsequently risked (and some gave) their lives to rescue and recover the victims of the religion of peace and tolerance. That cross is now part of the history of that event Rose-Ellen. You’ve lost the argument again Rose-Ellen.
Report Post »ConConInCon
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 11:10amHow about this: as soon as an artifact reflecting other religions is found at Ground Zero, it will be installed in the display as well. Oh, they didn’t find any other artifacts at Ground Zero representing other religions? I guess that’s just hard cheese then. Give us a call when one is found.
Report Post »bandi9
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:17amonce in a while, a blind hog finds an acorn
Report Post »catwilli
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:34amhehe, I love reading ya’lls comments, most ppl on here are spot on….good to hear! Keep it up ya’ll
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 5:38pmOnce the cross beam stands alone it’s a cross and you are violating athiests and other faith believers rights to be treated equally.it is that simple and you know it. Two beams that people perceive is a cross is a cross. A cross is a christian symbol.When entwined structuarally in architecture you get a pass,otherwise you don’t. Like when the crescent moon is in a painting you may get a pass in having that painting in a public place.If a star is place stategically in the painting you won’t.Pentagrams[star of David] also may or may not get you a pass depending on where and how it is placed [in architecture or design] of public places!.
Report Post »Pastor Melissa
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:12amJohn Stewart has changed over the past four years. He used to be so one sided. Now it seems he sees life just a little bit differently. I appreciate how he can honestly bash all sides and not just the side that appears easy to bash. Don’t always agree with him, but in this case good show.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:16amIts called ratings, Hes just like that lard ass Winfrey woman, when she came out with her own religious doctrine say that jesus wasnt the only path to salvation her ratings droped off and she back pedaled, and when she said she wouldnt have Palin on before the election and threw her weight behind Satoro her ratings again droped opf and she back pedaled and said she would have Palin on after the election that schedualing didnt premit having her on. All John Stewart is doing is trying to keep those luke warm Christians that use a church for weddings and funerals happy. So he threw them a little bone.
Report Post »Pastor Melissa
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:57amI don’t agree. I think he was previously bashed for speaking negatively of Obama and decided a one sided point of view wasn’t the only point of view. I am a cynic but in this case there is something positive. After all, he is an open Jewish man who is saying something for this monument. He has every right to jump on the atheist band wagon.
Report Post »teder77
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:08amHell must have frozen over!!
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:07amOnce in a blue moon, Jon Stewart says something pretty good. Thanks Jon for wording my views so nicely.
Report Post »nysparkie
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:07amWell, well, well. I am not saying he is taking a Right is Right side. I am saying he is telling one group that hates everything a majority of persons in this country believe in, to lighten up. One telling comedy bit for sanity for 50 for insanity. Better than nothing? Nah.
Report Post »atombomb
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 4:18pmWe wouldn’t if we had a say in the matter. McDonalds doesn’t accept gold bars, so I’m forced to use money bearing the name of your imaginary friend.
Report Post »Thighmaster
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:01amI wonder if athiests carry cash that says “IN GOD WE TRUST” ?
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:39amVERY well put and funny thanks!!!! for the pick-me-up
Report Post »Attention2Detail
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:01amYes they do, but they are trying to get it taken off. I guess when you live in the dark even the tiniest bit of light hurts your eyes.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:50amYou mean the fake money the Federal Reserve forces down our throats? Sure we do, only because we are forced to to live. Guarantee if Ron Paul win, even as a devout Christian, when he ends the Fed and allows competing currencies, I won’t have to settle for fake money with Christian ideology on them.
Report Post »Perspective
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:59amHe hit that one on the head. People who never even think of atheists now think they’re just a bunch of d1cks.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:07amYeah, this is probably Stewart’s bone to his relatively few Christian viewers.
Report Post »Thrill Biscuit
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:09amTrue! But what is a “doneck? :oD
Report Post »Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:12amThey are a bunch of d*cks because they are fighting for equality? Originally, only the cross was going to be allowed up, other belief systems weren’t allowed. That’s why the atheists filed a lawsuit, they want the cross taken down until other symbols are allowed. Whoever is in charge of making these decisions could have the cross up today if he’d be fair about it and allow other belief systems to put up their symbols. Not only Christians died that day.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:18amUmm, I thought its already been said that there was Jewish symol being put up, among other things already?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:21amWhat you seem to forget this this thing isn’t even a cross… its a peace of rubble from the Ground Zero… It’s more of a fight on if it should remain in its place… or be dismantled… It was never a work of art, or ‘built to be a cross’.
There is more symbolism out of one our war ships being built out of debris of Ground Zero(U.S.S. Liberty?) , used to fight over in the middle east… than thing has really…
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:58amI‘m an Atheist and I’m not offended by any religious symbols. Crosses, mangers, Christmas, Hanukkah, burkas, Buddhas, etc… I think we need to differentiate between Atheists and Secularists. As an Atheist, I am indifferent to anything religious. I don’t care about it. Secularists have an irrational (some, an insane) hatred of anything religious. They should be ignored. Any rational judge should just dismiss the case and charge the Secularist for wasting the court’s time.
Report Post »ACLU and activist judges are not rational. They are ideologically driven.
MrBigBillyB
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:21amI agree with your statement, though I am definitely no atheist. Where you run into the trouble is that it is the person representing you as the president of the American Association of Atheists. It’s not the association of secularists, so if you feel there is a differentiation, you need to get in touch with them and tell them to stop hijacking your views.
Report Post »ConservativeResponse
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:31amWell said.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:47amYes, its time for true Athiests to make a stand!
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:11amYou’re right. They give Atheists a bad name. It’s funny is that Secularists have made a religion out of hating religion. LMAO. I have no religion. A normal Atheist wouldn’t join any Association. Like Stewart said, “Why would we care?” I VERY rarely agree with him normally find him offensive. I may not be religious, but I am disgusted by people who attack religious people for their beliefs.
Report Post »I’m shocked to hear Stewart say something I agree with. I think that’s twice in a month! A new record! LOL
frodis
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:58amThe so called atheists are getting way too much attention. You don’t have to believe in God I guess but if you have a better explanation for the universe then lets hear it. What was it magic? When I think God I think a higher being of intelligence. We are not here for no reason. As for the cross, go home atheists. Your going to create static on the anniversary of 9-11 where we lost all those souls? Oh wait I said souls, you guys don’t have one or believe anyone has one. I once thought about being an atheist when I was younger and more ignorant but could never find a good reason to believe it. You guys have no proof that a higher being doesn’t exist.
Report Post »Taneras
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:19amOriginally, only the cross was going to be allowed up, other belief systems weren’t allowed. That’s why the atheists filed a lawsuit, they want the cross taken down until other symbols are allowed. Whoever is in charge of making these decisions could have the cross up today if he’d be fair about it and allow other belief systems to put up their symbols. Not only Christians died that day.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:24amThis thing isn’t a cross, its a piece of rubble from the ground zero… Its junk… It’s from a cross-beam, a normal part of building construction. Also as far as I know they are putting up a Jewish Star of David among other things. Those as far as I know are being designed, and aren‘t ’debris’ from the Ground Zero.
It’s not an intential piece of artwork…
That’s what makes this arguement so silly… Should athiests start banning buildings because they all contain cross-beams?
Report Post »DarthMims
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:30amYou’re kidding right? If it wasn’t God, it has to be magic? The story of creation is magic. God waved his magic wand over the dirt of the earth and turned it into a human. Ta-Da! The only thing missing was a girl in a sequin bathing suit smiling and waving. Seriously, science has a pretty good alternative to magic called the big bang. Now what caused the big bang and set everything in motion? That’s where God fits in.
Report Post »atombomb
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 4:25pmThe so called atheists are getting way too much attention. You don’t have to believe in God I guess >but if you have a better explanation for the universe then lets hear it. What was it magic? When I think God I think a higher being of intelligence. We are not here for no reason. As for the cross, go home atheists. Your going to create static on the anniversary of 9-11 where we lost all those souls? Oh wait I said souls, you guys don’t have one or believe anyone has one. I once thought about being an atheist when I was younger and more ignorant but could never find a good reason to believe it. You guys have no proof that a higher being doesn’t exist.
You don’t have to believe in God I guess >but if you have a better explanation for the universe then lets hear it. What was it magic?
Isn’t that EXACTLY what theists believe? The universe magically poofed into existence at the hands of an invisible, untouchable, undetectable being?
>You guys have no proof that a higher being doesn’t exist.
I have no proof an invisible elf lives under my bed, but I’m not gonna believe it on the basis of my inability to prove it.
Report Post »Carol Ingian
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:55amHuzzah!
Report Post »SeeingThingsClearly
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:48amFor once, we see eye to eye!
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:47amEven a broken watch is right once or twice a day…even though, way to go Jon!
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:58am@Locked..You know you are right. How dare Christians to be demonstrating near the mosque “community centers,” I mean geez, islam went to such great links to take the trade center down. They deserve to build their mosque there. If we can ingratiate ourselves into islam by electing an islamic president, well New York Christians and the rest of us silly Christians could step aside and let this happen.
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Locked
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 4:18pm@Ashes
-Responded to the wrong comment…
-Totally missed the point (”you never see Christians complained!”)
-Went off-topic on an anti-Islamic rant
-And somehow still managed to not know what the community center is!
Congrats! You win the fool of the day award! The prize is being called out here. Way to go!
Report Post »Encinon
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:40amI don’t understand this myself. I think the Point is that we are all equal. There is no reason that there shouldnt be an equal sized mosque if we are going to build another tower in lower manhattan. It is this reason that upsets most of us, where we don’t allow for the equal sized mosque to be created nearby paid for by the government to make sure it is done correctly
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:49amWhat does ‘another tower being built in lower manhatten’ have to do with a ‘equal-sized’ super mosque built int he same area? Are you saying you‘d rather that the tower wasn’t built? Are you a supporter of those who blew up the towers in the first place?
I don’t so much mind the mosque, if only the Greek Orthodox Church would be allowed to be rebuilt… Those two have more in common with each other. The greek orthodox church should be as big as the mosque! It’s only fair.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:04amApparently our resident troll knows nothing about the history of the proposed name for the “islamic cultural center” the heathens wish to build at Ground Zero. He knows nothing nor cares to understand why muslims like to build mosques at the site of islamic “conquests.” No matter, though. In the name of tolerance, troll boy will openly welcome the murdering jihadis and cheer gleefully as they start to kill off the infidels. Of course, they will behead him, too, but hey, we’re TOLERANT! That makes it all good, right? Meh….
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:35amJust point out to build the mosque, will require ‘cross-beams‘ and that’s an insult to islam!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:43am@SacredHonor1776, good point! However, troll boy will still blindly accept that monument to conquest and ask the heathens for more. He’ll keep begging for it and screaming all about tolerance until his cranium ends up in a burlap sack right along with all the other infidels….
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:39amEvery now and then Stewart gets it right.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:49amDon’t let Jon fool you…he’s a closet conservative at heart….the lib clown act is just for ratings.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:50amI think he’s a moderate, who pokes fun at both sides of the aisle…
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:22amJonny KNOWS where HIS bread and butter comes from> COMEDY
He is only doing this to “appear” LESS LIBERAL
I wouldn’t trust this man with ANY CHILD
His statement regarding everyone at FOX having LUPUS ended ANY respect for this doofus.
I’ve been fighting Lupus (SLE) for 8 years and IT’s NOT FUNNY
Jonny go back to your comedy cave and let the grown ups do the thinking you LOSER
Report Post »schmite123oh
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:35pm@georgiejo Agreed.
Report Post »Obama>Jesus
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 6:06pm@GeorgieJo
Report Post »Are you sure? According to House, it’s never Lupus, and he’s on TV. I trust his word more then yours.
Servant Of YHVH
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:36amI’m in shock, he attacked and mocked the athiest lawsuit? Rightly so but I’m still shocked!
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:47amI’ll be even MORE SHOCKED if Maher does it., but we all know THAT would never happen…..
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:53amIf you are shocked, you haven’t seen enough of Jon Stewart… He routinely mocks both sides of the aisle. Just the right wing media, tends to only showcase the material where he insults conservatives.
Yes, I don‘t think he’s as conservative as the Republicans. But I don‘t think he’s as liberal as the Liberals either… I think he’s a moderate.
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:01amShocked? Really? I guess Stewart’s reaction is because he, like most sentient adults, is not a one-dimensional stereotype who thinks solely along some narrowly defined party line. Y’know — democrat, liberal, socialist, unemployed, baby-killer, atheist, commie vs. hard-working, Christian, republican patriot.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:09amHe’s just throwing Christians a bone. This guy is all liberal, all the time. I don’t care what anybody says.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 7:36amYa, you go, Jon!
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:40amDid you forget about his left leaning political rally with Colbert? Not so partisan IMO.
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:54amI listened to most of his speach at that rally online, actually. His speech was far more coherrent than Colbert’s… Most of it was very moderate, some of it libertarian, and he was tossing jokes at the expense of the right and the left.
I could agree on some of the things he said.
Jon Colbert isn’t a walking stereotype…
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:54amUmm I mean Jon Stewart
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:59amThat being said, I think Jon, is a bit too blind to who Obama, is, and assumes he is a centrist… Not understanding that the man is out to hurt our society, not help it.
Report Post »Obama>Jesus
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 6:08pm@SacredHonor1776
Report Post »Actually, I believe you are mistaken. Obama loves this country and is trying to help it, as opposed to the Republicans who would rather see it go down in flames then give up control of it.