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Journal: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was a Fraud

LONDON (AP) — The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new report on the widely discredited research.

Journal: Study Linking Vaccine to Autism Was a Fraud

The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues was renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps and rubella have never fully recovered.

A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients in their study.

The analysis, by British journalist Brian Deer, found that despite the claim in Wakefield’s paper that the 12 children studied were normal until they had the MMR shot, five had previously documented developmental problems. Deer also found that all the cases were somehow misrepresented when he compared data from medical records and the children’s parents.

Wakefield could not be reached for comment despite repeated calls and requests to the publisher of his recent book, which claims there is a connection between vaccines and autism that has been ignored by the medical establishment. Wakefield now lives in the U.S. where he enjoys a vocal following including celebrity supporters like Jenny McCarthy.

Deer‘s article was paid for by the Sunday Times of London and Britain’s Channel 4 television network. It was published online Thursday in the medical journal, BMJ.

In an accompanying editorial, BMJ editor Fiona Godlee and colleagues called Wakefield’s study “an elaborate fraud.” They said Wakefield’s work in other journals should be examined to see if it should be retracted.

Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccination and autism.

But measles has surged since Wakefield’s paper was published and there are sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in England and Wales.

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Online:

http://www.bmj.com

Comments (130)

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  • NFYRx
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:12am

    This isn’t actually a man. He is a demon who is religiously followed. His job is to spread disease and kill the children that not only his followers willingly sacrifice to him, but any that come in contact with them as well. Piece of cake.

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  • dktrdktr
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:10am

    Reports on the Web indicate that Dr. Wakefield made 400,000 pounds testifying as an expert witness. What kind of doctor would publish research that would frighten parents away from giving their children a much needed vaccine so that he could get rich testifying?

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  • LukeAppling
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:08am

    So much of “scientific studies” have been “doctored” to fit the wanted results;autism,global warming, Minnesota elections, John Edwards law suits, among others. Because professors receive monies for the wanted results they give them the “wanted” results. Check all supposed “studies” to see whom is funding the study and whom benefits from the results this will clear up the confusion.

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  • politics101
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:00am

    The bogus report made the personal injury attorneys a lot of money though.

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  • pablazer
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:49am

    I don’t believe this new report for a second.

    Now that government controls health care this report will allow the feds to force vaccinations without a backlash of lawsuits — if the study that the lawsuits are based on is now suddenly considered “fraud”.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:43am

    I am waiting for the headlines to say “MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING IS A FRAUD”!!!

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  • ccrabill
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:39am

    Amazing the uproar about this ‘fraud’, but the MSM ignores the greater fraud of Global Warming.

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  • Cpriestess
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:31am

    Does no one find it interesting that once again it is British scientists altering research documentation to support their preconceived notion of truth? First climate change and now vaccine/autism linkage. Why would they do this? What does it achieve?

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  • Jenibopper
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:15am

    It’s hard to know what is real these days, with so many dishonest people serving their own self interest over the good of mankind. I only know the anecdotal stories of my friends, one of whom I watched as her son reverted from a happy talking child to a combative mute child right after his MMR. Is there a link? I can’t say. But I will say that I don’t believe the medical community one way or the other, because the liability the government would be under if there is a link from shots to Autism would be staggering. That would be incentive for a cover up. So sad you can’t trust anyone anymore.

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  • benrush
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:01am

    It‘s hard to know what’s true, and who is ‘doctoring’ the evidence.

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:00am

    Oh my, another celebrity cause lost. That might really hurt daytime tv talkshow subject matter.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:52am

    Egads! This means Jenny McCarthy’s medical opinions are worthless! Is nothing sacred?

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  • HippoNips
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:46am

    Of course, just because this study was bunk, doesn‘t mean their isn’t a connection. between autism and vaccines. If we draw that conclusion it’s the same type of bad logic as in that study.

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  • thegodfather
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:45am

    Trial lawyers glum over this news .Libs will soon release NEW study, blaming Happy Meals at McDonald’s

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  • MarieHillTut
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:40am

    I never understood why no one has looked into the Amish..How come they haven’t the touble with Autism? There is much we don’t understand and I am not saying this guy was right..but it is amazing what can happen to you if you step on the wrong set of toes..

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    • trt1
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:42am

      Exactly. Well said.

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    • Highland
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:08am

      Maybe because they’re not watching TV reports about how every other kid has autism.

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    • rlmeals
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:01am

      Autism is real, although I concede that many children are misdiagnosed with something like ADD in an attempt to explain normal hyperactivity so as to not have to deal with it appropriately. And of those who truly do have ADD, Many are drugged unnecessarily when simply getting on a regimen including a better schedule, diet, and tools the parent/teacher can use to counter the behavior would work much better. Only many people are too lazy to take that much time with a child. Mind you, I have known people who have functioned at a normal level after medication, but in my opinion it shouldn’t be the first course of action.

      That said, I think many factors contribute to the rise in disorders in our society. I’m talking about the correctly diagnosed kids here. Think about all we do in our society. We eat processed foods, fast foods, etc. We put a lot of chemicals and sugars into our diets. We are overweight as a society, and everyone knows how weight can affect other things, such as the heart, your joints, etc. We are sedentary. TV, video games, office work, and computers as opposed to more physical work of people 50+ years ago. Psychological differences…think about the psychology behind things such as entitlement of children, trophies for everybody, never letting kids fail, being left with strangers to be raised instead of the parent, being around peer groups during venerable formative years rather than the parent, bullying (I’m talking about modern bullying, where kids are taught NOT to fight back…stupid).

      There are so many things going on in a modern society that affects the mind and the body. And I firmly believe there is a link between a healthy mind and a healthy body. Meaning, having that fighting spirit can cure cancer, bring someone back from the brink of death, you know? We’ve all heard those stories. I posted this link in an earlier post, but I‘ll put it here again since I’m alluding to some of the things discussed in the article.

      http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/24/dr_gabor_mat_on_the_stress

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  • HippoNips
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:36am

    Newsflash, most studies you hear about are bunk.
    From the silly notion that a sweet like chocolate is a health food to an alcohol like red wine is a healthy drink., it’s all twisted data and false reporting by the researchers or the media.

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  • trt1
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:33am

    Not trying to offend anyone as I know most of the posters here are conservative friends. In this case, unless you have walked a mile in our shoes…please reserve judgement. My son was developing normally until the day he had a flu shot and MMR on the same day. The next four days he had high fevers and on the fourth day he lost all ability to speak. Prior to that dreadful day, he had about 30 words and was a happy go lucky kind of toddler. Lost all words and started pushing over furniture, etc. We have nearly gone bankrupt trying to recover him. Happy to say that through the intense biomedical therapy and occupational/speech therapy…we are pretty close to having a fully recovered kid.

    Believe me, I get it that it is hard to trust any study these days whatever the subject matter is. In this case, I don’t need to read a study to tell me what I saw with my own eyes. In my opinion, it isn’t one specific shot. I believe it has more to do with the number of shots our kids are given these days. I had 8 total as a child. Kids today are given upwards of 30. It is an assault on their immune system that some kids just can’t handle.

    In the end, I don’t blame parents who have neuro typical kids from thinking it is a bunch of BS since we are surrounded by BS these days. In this case, cut those of us who have seen what can happen with our own eyes some slack. Again, I don’t think it is “the cause”…but I do think it was the final assault on the immune system that led to what we are dealing with today.

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  • wethepeoplepress
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:31am

    As a parent who witnessed his son come down with the measles after a MMR, whick is not suppose to happen, I say be careful of what you read. Our pediatrician said our son came down with a mild form of measles after the shot, she said due to his sensitivity with shots she recommended we get a religious exemption and not give our son any more shots, we agreed. Funny thing is a shot is not supposed to carry any live attenuated viruses, My son was lethargic and stopped talking for several hours after the shot, over a few days he came back to normal but it was a close call, my belief is he was fighting off the poison and lucky to not become a statistic.

    For those foolish enough to trust the medical community remember this fact.. Baxter pharm only a year or so ago sent accidentally and against multiple protocols live Avian Flu Virus placed in vaccine materials to 18 countries. it was to be injected into patients as flu shots, fortunately one lab guy followed protocols and injected it into a ferret before immunizing his country, lucky he did or all 18 countries would have been given this poison and a h5n1 Pandemic would have followed., The tin foil hat crowd was right on with this one, only one lower level scientist caught the huge failure of multiple countries to follow established protocols. hmmmmm

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  • dablooz
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:26am

    It’s quite simple, oxygen is the one link to death common to all. Every human to ever walk the Earth has died. The common denominator? Oxygen. We need the EPA to ban breathing in oxygen since it is directly linked to death in every case.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 1:54pm

      Yes the same EPA that has been forcing the conversion to Mercury lased
      florescent light bulbs into our homes. What happens in an earthquake ?
      what is the clean up procedure for Mercury ?
      http://epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html
      maybe that is also a fraud ???

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  • DagneyT
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:24am

    First it was global warning hoax from London, now it’s MMR causing autism. I think in the future, we should look at any reports coming from London should be held suspect.

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  • Marine Recon Dad
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:14am

    Jenny McCarthy, where are you now?

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 1:46pm

      Yeah, I hadn’t thought of her. I‘ll bet she’ll be out there, somewhere, making her case again. This cannot be dismissed.

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  • BoilitDown
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:12am

    Competent scientists have suffered because of these poorly and dishonestly conducted “studies”.
    From ClimateGate to Oil Spill to Polar Bears to Nutrition and it goes on an on. Those groups with the faulty and false science get the press and support from corrupt money grabbers and government.
    Science as a whole has been painted with this broad brush of corruption and ineptitude. The real scientists need to stand up and fight the against damage that has been done to them.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:23am

      As long as the government subsidizes these studies, the money grubbers are living the “high life” and the universities they work for look oh so prestigious. I agree that legitimate scientists need to take a stand and call the frauds out ASAP as the public is fast losing faith in any of the studies done, and they should have to repay the money given for these false studies (also, taking money from the government means, in some cases, that they need to slant their findings in the direction the gov wants them to go). Honesty and transparency are needed everywhere.

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    • BoilitDown
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:52am

      @Grandmaof5
      When you take into account that many people have actually died and lives have been ruined as a result of these fraudulent “scientists”, a few thousand prosecutions are in order. Then again you’d have the entire gullible, liberal media machine to fight also. It is certainly a cause I could support.

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  • grandmaof5
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:12am

    If this is true, I guess the class action suit will be out the window. My oldest grandson has aspergers but my daughter never connected it to the MMR shot he received.

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    • TennesseeConservative
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:14am

      It is a shame but I do not believe anything the so called experts say about anything. Read what Dustyluv said about diabetes, I am in the same boat. Grandma the truth is out there. You just have to dig for it. I surely don’t believe this article. Because it is the experts saying it. We the sheeple, will follow anyone in a white coat or letters attached to there name. BBBBBAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

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    • TumbleBumble
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 1:36pm

      I heard this on the radio this morning and thought to myself – “bullcrap”. My 15 year old niece had a seizure, just hours after receiving a set of ‘well baby care’ shots. She has autism. And the odd thing about it was as my sister had been taking her to the same pediatrician, she noticed that there were quite a few children, the same age as her daughter, and patients of the same doctor, that had autism as well.

      Doctors will demonize anyone who point out flaws or even suspicions to immunizations.

      My son, when he was receiving the second HIB shot (as a child, not baby) came home and was having chest pains. We ran him to the hospital, the pains had subsided and nothing was caught on the monitors. I refused to allow him to have the third part. I was threatened by the school in saying that he would be refused to attend until I was in compliance. I went back to the doc’s office and asked for a waiver. Two different docs confronted me and told me I was being irrational. I called their bluff by asking for either one of them to sign off on a letter stating that my son would not have any side effects such as chest pains after receiving the third HIB. They looked at the letter like it was a snake then told me they couldn’t do that. And I couldn’t allow my son to take the shot. I was instructed to have my son’s blood tested to see if, by chance, he had developed an immunity. I did that. When I called for the results, I was told ‘Good news! Your son does not have Menningitis!’. I told them the test was for immunity, not whether or not he has it. The blood sample was already disposed of. But, lo and behold! I was given a waiver by the doctor at that point.

      I do not talk down to anyone who feels better receiving for themselves or allowing their children to take in all these foreign substances into their bodies. But if I were to have kids now, I’d do it all differently. Because, when against a parent’s better judgment you are made to feel forced by the medical community and the government to shoot up your children, everyone’s antennae should be way, way up. Something is very wrong about it.

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  • blanco
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:11am

    How does anyone know what to believe anymore?

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:36am

      We are victims of the information glut and the thirst for novel content. Any clown with a PhD can come out with a study linking anything to anything. If novel enough, media will capitalize on it for attention. If it can be related to any kind of hazard, socialists will use it to expand government “in order to protect us”. You have to stay educated and skeptical in order to filter out as much of the BS as possible.

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    • taskmaster78
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:54am

      I don’t really know, yet even this “hoax” doesn’t explain why in the last 20 years autism has gone up by “The historical rate of autism is about 4 per 10,000 and the more recent estimates are in the range of 15-20 per 10,000 (30-60 per 10,000 for all pervasive developmental ” this is from Science-Based Medicine, and today it has gone up substantially. Now even if the study is a fraud, each child has one thing in common and that is they’ve all been given the same shots. Coincidence? I don’t believe it is, I believe the hoax is the massive cover up by big pharma. Both the treatment and the immuizations are a multi billion dollar industry. Why shoot yourself in the foot? Regardless of the study, one should think that a great deal of time should be spent to find the culprit and regardless of who is at fault this should end, these children suffer needlessly, along with their parents.

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    • Chett
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:09am

      Believe nothing. Research and come to your own conclusions
      a good place to start -
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQqjt3iXlQ

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    • moriarty70
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:20am

      @taskmaster78

      The rates have gone up mostly due to a broader definition of autisim. Also, yes, each of those kids did get the shot, but what about the overwhelming majority who got the shot and were just fine? To me that says something else if the cause and it’s a matter of unfortunate timing.

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    • rlmeals
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:33am

      @Taskmaster78

      I don’t know either, as I’m not a doctor. But here is a plausible explanation that may or may not have validity. At least it throws another point of view into the mix, and people can read and decide for themselves.

      The article (I’ll post at the bottom) says a lot about abuse and drug addiction, as it is a broad study on several psychological issues, such as autism, ADD, ADHD, addiction, etc. It’s basically talking about how trauma at a young age can cause the brain to function differently. I can’t begin to explain it, but this trauma can include abuse, neglect, being around peers more than a nurturing parent (ie: daycare), or a traumatic event. In my son’s case, her was severely burned as an infant and required a skin graft when he was 15 months old, and afterwards regressed in his development and speech. They think he has PDD, a disorder related to autism. That event may have been his trigger.

      Read the article, but you’ll have to kind of skim past the unrelated parts about drug addition to get down to the nitty gritty on autism, ADD, etc. I hope this will bring another idea into the light. Like I said, I don’t have the answer, but this sounds reasonable.

      http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/24/dr_gabor_mat_on_the_stress

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    • rlmeals
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:40am

      Correction: “Trauma” wasn’t the keyword, it was “stress.” And before you balk at it, stress can be anything from a traumatic event, to the stress transmitted by over-stressed parents. Ever notice how kids pick up on our emotions? They‘re irritated when we’re irritated, happy when we’re happy, etc.

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    • Xcori8r
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:18am

      “DR. GABOR MATÉ: Well, the conditions in which children develop have been so corrupted and troubled over the last several decades that the template for normal brain development is no longer present for many, many kids.”

      Well THAT would explain a lot.

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    • mck05002
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:53am

      The problem with the other studies to discredit this study is the the “unvaccinated” control group actual consists of children who were behind on their shots or hadn’t received all of their boosters. That hardly counts as unvaccinated to me. I‘m not saying this guy wasn’t fraudulant; I‘m simply saying the other studies aren’t straightforward either. And there are aome creepy things in vaccines such as squaline, formaldehyde, and aluminum (all of which are toxic to humans) We would be fooling ourselves to say this does nothing. 99% of kids begin to develop signs autism before age 2. These studies all examined children ages 1-12 a good study would only moniter children under the age of two to study any differences. Also another interesting fact, last year during the H1N1 scare, the number of fetuses that has seizures inutero was double in women that got vaccinated over their unvaccinated counterparts.

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    • Elrik68
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 3:43pm

      Help! It’s been more than 4 hours….

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  • TXPilot
    Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:11am

    Everything is good for you until some study says it’s now bad for you. Soon, they will claim breathing air and drinking water causes cancer or something similar.

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:24am

      And they get ignorant celebs to follow, which gets ignorant civilians to follow. This caused an epidemic in london. When will people figure out that actors are NOT experts in the fields they are talking about, don’t listen to celebs just because they are talking about something real world. They lie for a living, that is what actors do.

      And this is just another example of scientist lying to get notariety. Evolution, global warming, MMR shot causing autism. There needs to be examination of “findings” and confirmation before serious things get published and introduced as “fact”.

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:31am

      Remember one thing folks…..You never knew how sick you were until the TV media started telling you. Can’t believe everything reported in the media and paper. Challenge everything…especially in today’s climate of propaganda. Eggs are good…then eggs are bad….Blah..Blah…Blah

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    • Highland
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:36am

      Sounds like the same folks who devised the global warming scam did this autism “study.” Really, people, is it that difficult to tell the truth?

      Highland  
    • microace
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:37am

      I think being born causes death…

       
    • Dustyluv
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:53am

      I believe NOTHING coming from the majority of the Healthcare community. They need you to be sick. Why else would they say a low fat diet is good for you? Why would they let a drug like Alli to be sold over the counter? It makes you sick and it makes you crap your pants too!

      I have beaten Diabetes with NO HELP FROM DOCTORS. They alnost killed me. It’s a huge money maker for them. I eat a high healthy fat diet and low carbs. I am as healthy as a horse!

      Remember, doctors are educated in LIBERAL bastions of stupidity!

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:27am

      Somebody needs to put this doctor in jail for fraud and misrepresentation.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:50am

      Well, this is how science works (though, without fraud I hope). Review of studies is done by independent and unrelated people against published studies. If problems are found, the results of the investigations are published (well, they’re published if they agree with the studies as well as backup evidence). I have no problem with this kind of thing in a general sense, it gives me some confidence that the scientific method and process is still alive and kicking.

      Now the fraud part, well, humans are humans and some are open to fraudulent actions in order to gather glory to themselves. Seems to be the case here. This “scientist” and his cadre of co-conspirators should be ashamed of themselves.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 9:56am

      the bad thing is so many mothers refused to protect their children because of this study, and these kids without protection have put us all in danger.

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    • Bullcop34
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:17am

      @ISHKA4ME….Think about what you stated…”the bad thing is so many mothers refused to protect their children because of this study, and these kids without protection have put us all in danger.”
      How so? If everyone else got the vaccine and the child did not then the only person that is in any “danger” is the unprotected child, not you ar anyone else that has been “protected”. In essence, you are stating that the vaccines are ineffective since the vaccine is incapable of keepoing us all out of danger due to children NOT getting the vaccine, eventhough everyone else has it. Also ponder this…how can it reach epidemic proportions if the vaccine works? Wouldn’t the disease actually be limited to the children that did NOT get vaccinated? So why in the world or better yet, HOW in the world could anyone elses even contract measles if they were given the vaccination in the first place? THINK!!

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 10:58am

      Just like the GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD .. these jerks should be sent to jail .. along with ALGORE.

       
    • independentvoteril
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 11:26am

      Here’s one thing I do know.. doctors now double up and triple up on shots to kids and are giving them earlier in life.. without spacing them as they did in the past..REASON well parents want it this way so they don’t have to keep coming back every few months.. it’s such a hassle.. now unless you TELL them not to you kid will receive shots intended to be spread out over the first year every 6 weeks in TWO visits.. I know this is causing a problem with kids since firstly kids are NOT allowed to even develop their own immune systems BEFORE they are giving them 2 or 3 shots at once and SOMETIMES up to 5..(we wouldn’t want to inconvenience the doctors or parents would we??)..I beleive it is because the illegals wouldn’t bring their kids back for the shots so they CHANGED the way they give them.. Autism is NOT the ONLY thing they are getting.. IF the child has allergies such as to EGGS..this can cause a WHOLE lot of problems including death.. Mothers have been telling doctors about the way they are giving shots but UNLESS you have COMMON SENSE and DEMAND the doctor space the shots like they use to they don’t.. usually this is done to first time parents who really beleive the doctors that giving all the shots at once is a good thing.. My grandson who has egg allergies now has eczema which up till after he got his first series of shots was not present.. and when they finally did allergy test found him to be HIGHLY allergic to EGGS.. by giving him so many shots they OVERLOADED his system not just with the things they wanted to prevent but with things he’s allergic to.. I would beleive the doctors who said shots are contributing to autism before I would beleive those that say they are safe..since the change in the way they give the shots the INCREASE in Autism as well as Eczema and Asthma has SHOT way up.. while individual shots may be safe spaced out shots given in bulk don’t seem to be..

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    • Cobra Blue
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 12:02pm

      DustyLuv

      FYI – I adopted a holistic approach to health about 5 years ago…basically concentrate on maintaining the temple so as to prevent illness and disease. Best decision I ever made. My doctor is completely holistic. He practices replacement therapies, etc. All I can say is I’m 51 going on 21….Have a great day.

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    • TraditionalFoodie
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 12:13pm

      “the bad thing is so many mothers refused to protect their children because of this study, and these kids without protection have put us all in danger.”

      Why is it people who are not vaccinated pose such a threat to those vaccinated? If you believe vaccines work, then what are you afraid of? If they are doing their ‘job’, why are you in danger? Just sayin’

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    • TylerD
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 1:56pm

      @BULLCOP34 & TRADITIONALFOODIE

      It’s not that people who are not vaccinated pose a threat to people who are vaccinated. It’s that they pose a thread to other people who are also not vaccinated. Let’s say there are 1,000 people in the world. 900 were successfully vaccinated when young for a disease, and 100 were not. If the disease breaks out, 1/10 of the people could get it. In the next 1,000 births (assuming no deaths), say only 100 people get the vaccine. Now, if the disease breaks out, half of the people could get the disease. In that first set of 1,000 people, maybe some of them had a valid reason for not having the vaccine, or maybe they didn’t. Maybe the vaccine didn’t take and they are still vulnerable. The fact of the matter is that the more people ignore vaccines, the more other people could be vulnerable.

      As more people refuse vaccines, it could easily reach epidemic proportions if the percentage of the population that is vaccinated continues to go down. Again, it might not effect those who had the vaccine, but that doesn’t apply to all of the world. Believe it or not, not every person in the world can afford vaccines, and some of those people do occasionally travel to the United States later in life. Or, maybe they come in contact with someone else who travels to the US. Or, maybe a kid born in the US whose parents didn‘t give him the vaccine goes to a country that doesn’t have a high vaccination rate and spreads a disease killing millions there.

      Ultimately, it is egregious to not vaccinate your children based on faulty information like this. As more people refuse vaccinations based on false studies like this one and others that have been disproved in the past, not only are they putting themselves at risk, but they are putting others at risk who have also not had the vaccine.

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    • Liberty_Forever
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 2:28pm

      @Bullcop34
      For the most part you’re correct. ‘Herd immunity’ has been quite successful at ending the spread of many illnesses for which vaccinations exist. So, yes, these unvaccinated children are not a threat to MOST people. However, to state they are only a danger to themselves is not true. If these children contract an illness they could have been protected against by a vaccine, they are also a danger to the immunocompromised : the very young (those children too young to receive certain vaccinations such as the MMR), the very old (those whose immune systems, despite vaccinations, no longer function normally due to age), and those with illnesses that have diminished the immune system (chemo therapy recepients, for example). Unfortunately, as the number of children whose parents have chosen not to vaccinate has risen, so has the number of cases of childhood illnesses (such as pertussis and measles) that were thought to virtually be a thing of the past.

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    • NanNJ
      Posted on January 6, 2011 at 8:29pm

      The gov’t is paying for these studies, to say vaccines don’t cause autism. They could never admit there is a problem because vaccines are gov’t mandated. You are foolish to think that vaccines shouldn’t be looked into for the autism epidemic. It is the only thing all these kids have in common. If you think about it, the gov‘t is doing just what I’d expect them to do to make people THINK vaccines have nothing to do with it….they are mandating more and more. Open your minds folks., putting little bits of these diseases directly into the blood stream of infants whose immune systems aren’t yet developed is harming them. You folks got 5 shots–today’s kids are getting 22 by the time they are 5 and more and more as you get older. How many friends do you know are suffering from auto-immune diseases, a lot I bet. In other words, we NEED further studies on what vaccines are doing to us.

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