Judge Could Order Fort Hood Shooter to Be ‘Forcibly Shaved’ Before Trial — But Should He? (Take Our Poll)
- Posted on August 22, 2012 at 6:59pm by
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This undated file photo provided by the Bell County Sheriff's Department via The Temple Daily Telegram shows Nidal Hasan. Another pretrial hearing is set in the case of the Army psychiatrist charged in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage. Maj. Nidal Hasan will be in the courtroom Friday, Aug. 3, 2012, only if he shaved his beard (Credit: AP)
(TheBlaze/AP) — A judge has the right to order an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage to be forcibly shaved before his murder trial, military attorneys told an appeals court Wednesday.
The attorneys, in a document filed on behalf of Col. Gregory Gross, contend that forcibly shaving Maj. Nidal Hasan would not violate the American-born Muslim’s religious freedoms and said it is similar to “and no more invasive than” a judge’s right to restrain a defendant who is disruptive during a court-martial.
“Forced shaving is not a novel concept in the military,” military attorneys said in the judge’s response filed with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. “Army regulations expressly authorize nonconsensual haircutting and face-shaving for recalcitrant incarcerated soldiers. … If the judge has authority to bind and gag a disruptive accused (soldier), then certainly he has authority to forcibly shave (Hasan).”
Last week that appeals court delayed Hasan’s court-martial, which had been set to start earlier this week with jury selection, while it considers his appeal to being forcibly shaved. Now that the judge has responded, the court can make a decision or choose to hear oral arguments in the case first.
Hasan has grown a beard to express his Muslim faith. His defense attorneys have said he won‘t shave since he’s had a premonition that his death is imminent, and he doesn’t want to die without a beard because he believes not having one is a sin.
Hasan faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted in the November 2009 attack on the Texas Army post that killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.
Gross has banned Hasan from courtroom hearings since he first showed up in court in June with a beard, letting him watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television in a nearby room. But Gross said Hasan will be forcibly shaved before the trial if he doesn’t shave himself. The judge has said he wants Hasan in attendance during the court-martial to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if he is convicted.
Gross‘ response also told the appeals court that his order does not violate Hasan’s religious freedoms. Army rules prohibit beards, and those who join the military have agreed to give up certain personal interests over the needs of the service to maintain good order, discipline and security, according to the document.
In urging the court to deny Hasan’s appeal and to allow the trial to proceed, Gross’ response said that his order to forcibly shave Hasan ensures “that a military trial proceeds without a distracting and disruptive sideshow featuring an officer-accused flagrantly disrespecting the Army, his superiors, and the military judge.”
The trial is expected to last more than two months at Fort Hood, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
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Comments (451)
Beachmastermax
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:49pmLooks just like any other disgruntled employee to me. I would say the Army has an enemy Identification problem.
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:49pmBut, does the Judge have the balls to order him shaved, because OMG and the DOJ will interfere on behalf of the Muslim!
Report Post »daveposh
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:49pmHe didn’t have the beard when he killed the 13. His argument is BS.
Report Post »HI_Don
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:54pmNo, he lost his “right” to have a beard when he joined the military, which evidently was a lie as well agreeing to support and defend the Constitution, so obviously living a “sin” or dying in sin isn’t really the problem. As a sign of support of our military, not only should he be shaved, but no media outlet should ever use a picture of this guy that isn’t the shaved one from now on. He should only be remembered as the shaved coward, not the orange jumpsuit Muslim. Just like I never want to see another picture of Sudam Heisan (sp) except the one where he just got pulled out of the hiding hole he curled up in but didn’t have the guts to shoot himself. The true coward he was.
Report Post »PALEHORSE
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:40pmHe is still “employed by the U S Army. Shave his beard off.
Report Post »Nanaswords
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:39pmLet him look like what he is…….. an evil nut-case !!!!!!! He did not hesitate to shoot as many as he could before being stopped !!!!! WHY Should He Be “Cleaned-Up” for a Drawn Out/Delayed Trail ???? Looks as though some more P.C. activity AGAIN !!!! Just Like Before his deliberately planned Crime Against our American Troops !!!!!!!! When are we going to STOP being so ACCOMODATING to our Enemies ??????? This is AMERICA Not a Pagan nation !!!!!!!
Report Post »daveposh
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:37pmHe didn’t have the beard when he killed 13 people. His request to keep the beard is bull crap.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:36pmWhat do you mean “Could Order”?
Report Post »He’s an embarrassment but he is still on the payroll as an Officer in the US Military.
Hydra
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:33pmIts a beard, I mean what the hell is the difference. How much more tax payers money will be wasted on the hair on this guys face? Does the beard increase his chances of getting off? So just proceed with the stupid trial if he has hair or not. All these stupid F’n rules just to prove a point. Convict him, execute him, and move on.
Report Post »Impenitent
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:24pmshave him all day; he still will not look like kojack
Report Post »ginger100
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:23pmIf he doesn‘t shave for fifty years then it’s on him. Lock him up in solitary until he feels like resuming the trial. He could die there from his own stupidity.
Report Post »rt elms
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ginger100
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:29pmOk
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:34pmIn the Military… by General Order… a General sets the DRESS CODE!
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:20pmThe answer about shaving him or not has nothing to do with his religion or the number of people he killed. As a member of the US Armed Services, he is subject to the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). Also as a US Army officer and is accountable under Army Regulation 670-1, section 1-8a2b and c, which states:
(b) Males will keep sideburns neatly trimmed. Sideburns may not be flared; the base of the sideburn will be a cleanshaven,
horizontal line. Sideburns will not extend below the lowest part of the exterior ear opening.
(c) Males will keep their face clean-shaven when in uniform or in civilian clothes on duty. Mustaches are permitted; if worn, males will keep mustaches neatly trimmed, tapered, and tidy. Mustaches will not present a chopped off or bushy appearance, and no portion of the mustache will cover the upper lip line or extend sideways beyond a vertical line drawn upward from the corners of the mouth (see figure 1–1). Handlebar mustaches, goatees, and beards are not authorized.
Whether or not he was a Muslim when he joined the Army, he is accountable and no special allowances for facial hair or headgear are given for religious reasons. He’s a US Army Major, grab his head, shave is head to get him within regulations, put him in his uniform, and put him before the court.
Anyone who has a problem with that, go home and cry to Allah.
hidden_lion
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:29pmJust charge him with disobeying orders and get on with it. He never should have survived to be charged in the first place.
Report Post »iblvingd
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:44pmI say leave it, it shows who he really is. A Muslim, who should have never been in the Military. Let him keep up with dishonoring the UCMJ. It should just be another thing added to the list of wrong doings done by this man, and he should be charged accordingly.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:55pmMake him cut it off and give him a Brazilian haircut before they execute him.
Report Post »Captain77
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:19pmDon’t get me wrong, the evidence is overwhelmingly shows he’s guilty, however he is still afforded the right of innocent until proven guilty, which is not determined until after the trial. With that said, the poll was misleading. NO ONE LOSES THEIR RIGHTS UNTIL AFTER CONVICTION! And why the hell do we care wether or not the man is shaving. Its a stupid distraction and a wast of tax payers time and money to make this an issue. Get on with the trial already and get over the stupid stuff!
Report Post »Al Gator
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:31pmHave five naked playmates strap his butt down naked, and then DRY SHAVE THE SOB from top to bottom.
Make him stand trial in his skivvie shorts only.
I want to OFFEND his mudslimz beliefs in the worst way.
(Feed him bacon for a week before the trial.)
Report Post »fooltx
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:49pmha, yeah slather him in bacon grease and cut off his lousy mange.
i am a conservative, maybe a little libertarian, but for this crime why dont we have a law thats says you have a one day trial, bring in the witnesses, judge, firing squad, and get it over with. oh by the way wheres susan sarandon and her ilk that would want to save his sorry ***.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 10:41pmHonestly, these animals cut the head off of people and we have to ask if shaving the beard off of one of these monsters is okay. Who gives a rip, just execute the friggin guy.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 11:38pmYou are afforded the right to a fair and speedy trial the longer it is delayed the better the chance he will get off on a rights violation.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 11:58pmShave his eyebrows they are distracting…….THIS IS THE BIGGEST JOKE …..Put him to sleep and shave him NOW!!!!…..Time for justice!!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:03amWe, the People, are probably tired (I can’t speak for all of us) of this game this creep is playing. HE is a prisoner. HE was caught RED-HANDED. There are numerous witnesses. The families of those who were killed and wounded deserve JUSTICE. They don’t need to be tortured any longer than necessary. This jerk is also drawing $$$ from the taxpayers and therefore he needs to OBEY the
Report Post »Military laws. THIS IS NOT his SHARIA LAW trash. THIS IS THE US OF A. SHAVE HIM/TRY HIM/SHOOT HIM like he shot 13 others.
loriann12
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:11am@rt elms
I have an ad blocker and I still get so many ads that don’t show up that I have to scroll down about 50 pages to go back, instead of just hitting the back button.
As for Hasan, I suppose his excuse for “sinning” his whole military career was he was just lying to the infidel.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:34amWolfgang hit it right on the nose. He presented the grooming standards. This thing is a serving officer in the US Army. As such he is subject to the UCMJ.
I know of 3 exceptions: Sikh soldiers (based on religion), certain African American soldiers (a genetic skin condition makes shaving painful must be medically verified) and soldiers in Military Intelligence, CID, and Special Operations (duties may call for relaxed hair standards).
Shave this thing and move the trial along.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:25amAbsolutely, it should be shave by him or forcibly by someone else as his appearance is in violation of the military code and he should not be allowed to make his trial a religious statement or platform.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:34amIt’s a military trial. Hasan is still under the auspices of the military. He should be abiding by military regulations. Either he shaves his beard off or someone should indeed forcibly shave his beard off.
Report Post »LouTheGecko
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:07amCan they do a really deep shave, with a straight razor?
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:23amWhy the hell does it matter either way. Our military has too many Mickey mouse rules. You can’t try a man because he has a beard. Give me a damn break.
Report Post »PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:36amWolfgang: I agree with you. He join the army and that is the rules. This is crap! Shave him and get on with the trail!
Report Post »OMG
imfrzn
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:22pmThe poll is asking the wrong questions. He is in the military now and certainly wasn’t sporting a beard when he killed the 13! This should not even be a question. Either strap his a$$ down and shave him from head to toe or leave it alone and add insubordination to the list of offenses. Does it matter in the grand scheme? What is on display here is our nations entire military beholden to terrorists! Okay you 911 masterminds and every other terrorist who has crossed paths with the US, you win because Americans are to stupid to know when to be outraged and certainly are not going to hold you accountable! In fact, if you would like to live in California we’ll give you a drivers license, social security and surround you with police just in case one of our own citizens even says an unkind word to you. Wow look at this, potato chips on sale at Walmart… now this is important!
Report Post »tucsila
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:54pmBest post ever. He is military first. Stop playing the muslem game. According to the government their is no religion in the military, isn’t that why the soldiers are not allowed to pray?
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:08pmSeems strange that this Muslim wasn’t wearing his all important beard when he openly, and with a cold heart, killed all those people. He‘s just fooling around hoping you’ll let him go since he’s so religious now.
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:25pmTucsila, military members are allowed to pray, they just can’t dress differently in uniform because of their religion. I prayed many times when I served in uniform. We have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. However, this jerk growing a beard to drum up strive from the Muslim community is complete garbage.
Report Post »SCHEXbp
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 9:28pmYes. I’m betting a Sikh prisoner (& AFAIK they are supposed to carry a small knife on them as part of their religion) would be forced to surrender his small knife (even if it is sometimes labelled “ritualistic). (Perhaps even his turban?!)
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:42amWolfgang
You keep beating me to the punch.
Report Post »mccances
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:37pmWe have USA laws, not Muslim laws. He is just sticking his tonque out at our country. He needs to have his beard shaved off to show him and any other Muslim that decides to do harm to an American citizen that we do not go by Muslim laws we go by our American laws. I disagree with Beck, this is important. Shave his beard for him if he will not do it.
Report Post »LakeHartwellSailor
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:21pmI could care less. Just try him, then shoot him. Beard or no beard, just shoot him!
Report Post »watashbuddyfriend
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:47pm@ LakeHartwellSailor, shooting him is not harse enough!
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 7:11pmI think Obama wants to delay the trial untill AFTER the election.
Report Post »moonstruck2
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:29pmthats what they’re doing in Afghanistan involving Blue On Green! Afghan Soldiers/ Police who are killing american trainers, in Major Nidals case, was it because he was listening to all of the horror stories of all of those servicemen coming back and dumping all of the atrocities that they were commiting in Muslim Countries on him; i guess what he was hearing became too much for him to bear and he snapped.. You know…like timothy Mcveigh??
Report Post »harrynaz
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 10:52pmRight on. A general court martial and a firing squad. And the firing squad should be made up from those soldiers wounded by the Muslim murderer.
Report Post »boyd9
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:13pmIf Obama is a Muslim, he doesn’t want the blood of another Muslim brother on his hands. If Obama is not a Muslim then I do not understand why he is allowing this ridiculous delaying tactic to succeed. I don’t care if he has a beard or not, but I do care that justice be swift either way. Ignore the beard have the trial, carry out the sentence, let justice be done upon him.
Report Post »infidelsaplenty
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:20pmHas this country lost its collective mind? The guy shot 13 people and killed 14. Try him and fry him ferhevensake!
Report Post »CPLGEORGE
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:19pmDoes anyone remember the hit TV show The “A” team? Then remember how they got “Mr T” to fly to the destination. Put him to sleep, shave him and it is all over. If he has complaints he can take up with the judge and prison guards. Also, Beck – I am getting tired of all the popups when I click a Blaze article. Either it stops, or I stop!
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:23pmTry ghostery the pop up blocker..
Report Post »Fedpro
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:24pmI agree with canning the popups. Very distracting!
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:34pmI can’t stand the POP UPS either. VERY ANNOYING!
Report Post »Big Lubinski
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:59pmShave him hell, tie him down, wax him, head to toe, then try and fry him!
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:16pmWe are wasting way too much time of this terrorist – shave him and let’s get this stupid trial over with and execute him already – there will be plenty of time for his terrorist beard to grow once he is safely six feet under.
Report Post »tadroid
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:14pmIf it’s required for Army regulations, the absolutely.
Report Post »2GodBeTheGlory
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:14pmWhy Is this a discussion… This is obviously another self proclaimed jehad against the American people. Why does the media, including the blaze, not call this as it is, declared war by a “religious” people. Words followed by actions are clear to me…
Report Post »Watermain
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:14pmI volunteer to do the shaving.
Report Post »pissantno.10
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:21pmwell i think we should have a lottery for that right
Report Post »Zeb
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:12pmHe is still under military justice. YES SHAVE HIM
Report Post »gbgreta
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:10pmBTW, I won’t answer your poll. He is in the military, and he has NO right to a beard. Period.
Report Post »proliance
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:09pmNone of the choices is best. He should be shaved and his hair cut to meet Army standards because HE’S IN THE ARMY.
If you’ve ever been in the military, then you‘re probably aware of someone who didn’t meet standards and saw the First Sergeant takes his lazy ass down for a haircut and/or shave. And when the First Shirt pays for it, the First Shirt gets the kind of haircut he wants.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:15pmAnd when the Master Chief points his finger at you and tells you to get clean, you move or pay. He signed the contract, no one forced him to, and although he is a disgrace to the uniform he is forced to wear now, too bad, SHAVE HIM. I have zero tolerance for him and using his “religion” to delay the tirial is disgusting.
Report Post »gbgreta
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:09pmHe’s still in the service, and not up to regs. Tie him down and shave that filthy beard. Dust him for lice at the same time.
I don’t get the problem here.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:04pmYes. Shave him. And gag him/muzzle him if he makes outbursts. And restrain him in a starightjacket and strap him to a chair if he tries to get out of his chair even once when not permitted to. He has does have rights — but those do not include derailing the lawful process. It is his fault if the court martial is influenced by necessary actions taken to move the trial forward.
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:18pmI might consider Islam a legitimate religion if he was to get up from his chair. It would be a true miracle since he can’t walk anymore. I sat shave or no shave he needs to be tried yesterday! Then carry out the verdict within the first 5 mins.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:59pm@ Wellhangingchad
Report Post »Good point. I forgot that he lost the use of his legs in an incident of workplace violence.
QuincySmith
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:04pmIF the major is ever tried, losing his beard will be the least of his problems.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:04pmGet this trial over with!!! Where is the “swift” justice these victims and their families deserve? This TERRORIST is making a mockery of our system and his victims. ENOUGH! Get ALL these murdering TERRORISTS to trail and convict them once and for all. They have ALL proudly confessed so what’s the hold up, Holder?
Report Post »godhatesacoward
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:16pmPretty ridiculous, ain’t it!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:24pmLoL!
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:29pmEven though, I would not mind that much to see the forced shaving. I have seen a couple of forced hair cuts. Not pretty at the end. But, as I said in a previous story, just skip the shave, stop wasting the obvious gobs of money and get the trial over with, and shoot for the public‘s and veterans’ most desired sentence.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:38pmRJJ. Although my comment was in jest (or was it? lol)… I’m with you in the end though.
‘Nuff of this nonsense. Shave it off… or not… just get to the “guilty verdict” already…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:39pmTime and RJJ…………I have a question I am to lazy to google but you military men probably know off the top of your heads. If a member of the military is found guilty of murder as Hasan will be does it take forever for that person to be executed? Do they get years of appeals etc. like they do in civilian life?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:51pmMOM. Pulled this up real quick for you.
The U.S. Military Death Penalty http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-military-death-penalty via @dpinfoctr
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:55pm@MOM…
Report Post »In War Time… Strong Officers execute Sentences quickly. But, officially this is not War Time… and their are few Officers alike West left: Liberal Ideology Rules!
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:00pmMOM. After reviewing the link… although answering some questions of your’s… the system may be a bit skewed where “Dwight Sullivan” is concerned…
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:12pmMOM. The Army’s intent to seek the death penalty in the Hasan case will likely set off years of legal wrangling. No Active-Duty troops have been executed in nearly 50 years, and defendants in Military death-penalty cases can appeal their convictions in a series of Military and civilian courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court.
“Even if a ruling is fully upheld, the President has to personally approve an order to carry out the execution, further slowing the process”, according to Eugene R. Fidell, an expert on the Military Justice System at Yale Law School.
Another waste of resources. Or maybe it’s just a bargaining chip to get Hasan to forego an insanity defense and plead guilty, accepting life in the brig as a sentence. “Yardbird”…
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:13pmThe last military execution was 51 years ago on April 13, 1961.
Members of the military cannot be executed unless the President personally confirms the death sentence.
Well as long as Obama is in office Hasan will never be executed.
thanks for the link.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:28pmTime………..that is an interesting web site. Everyone should read it.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:36pmMOM. Obama was very quick to label Cambridge, Mass Police as acting “stupidly” but….
OBAMA stated early on: “Well, look, we — we have seen, in the past, rampages of this sort. And in a country of 300 million people, there are going to be acts of violence that are inexplicable. Even within the extraordinary military that we have — and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress — there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks. I think the questions that we‘re asking now and we don’t have yet complete answers to is, is this an individual who’s acting in this way or is it some larger set of actors? You know, what are the motivations? Those are all questions that I think we have to ask ourselves. [Until we have these answers buttoned down, I'd rather not comment on it].”
Obama sounded like Hasan’s lawyer and in THIS case he reserved his judgement and of course not wanting to comment about Hasan acting above and way beyond… “stupidly”… hmmmm.
Report Post »DEMOCRATS.ARE.EVIL
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 7:29pmI like it. Muslim justice for the traitor.
Report Post »RossPoldark
Posted on August 22, 2012 at 8:12pmOops, I ment to say a painful full body wax.
Report Post »huey6367
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 12:13pmand shave off the beard after he dies
Report Post »USAONLYdotUS
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 1:53pmYour forgot water Boarding
Report Post »M.R.Gamecocks
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:14pmNice close shave just above the shoulders. Don’t forget the video. I hear its must see T.V. in his world.
Report Post »Papadoc
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:04pmYeah…. suddenly he’s got religion. I don’t recall hearing that he had one on the day he volunteered ,on the day he killed people, or any day in between. It sounds a lot like those who collect their military pay every day for years and don’t realize they are a conscientious objector until the day they get their deployment papers. I call bullll-ony. Maybe he shoulda thought about dying without a beard before he walked into a room and started shooting.
Report Post »WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:37pmHe should already be dead, long ago dead, growing a beard with his 72 virgins.
Report Post »ginger ghent
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:41pmHe didn’t seem to have a problem having no beard when he shot all those people…shouldn’t be a problem now…SHAVE HIM AND GET ON WITH IT!!!! If it were a non muslim they would have no issue having the person shaved….come on !!! REALLY???
Report Post »havaloc
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:48pmThey should not shave him. Just add it to the list of charges. It is inconsequential.
Someone may want to remind his “high-mindedness” that not having a beard is on the little sin list. Taking lives who you judge to be unworthy is on the big list. Judging another to be unworthy of life is at least higher on the list than dying with no beard.
I understand that his “scriptures” say it is OK to kill those “who make mischief” or to seek in kind retribution. He definitely made “mischief.” he had no debt of retribution with the people whose lives he took. Apply the UCMJ or simply his own barbaric standards. Either one convicts him to die and rot in hell.
He is not scoring points in heaven or hell with this drivel. He is just trying to make news.
Report Post »TheCoffinMaker
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 5:57pmHe’s property of the U.S. government until he’s executed.
Then he‘s the devil’s property.
Report Post »mrmo
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 8:15pmHe is still a membes of the services, I hear he is still being payed (don’t know why). He is out of uniform having a beard, just add one more charge to the list. Ignor it and try him and fry him. Keeping him in the brig is a waste of tax payers money, and it showes his kind they can screw around with America and get away with it. No more Mr. Nice Guy just tell him “GOOD BY”
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SammysDad
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:29pmOMG, try the SOB, beard and all. Enough of this PC crap!!
Report Post »Kristina In Americaland
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:39pmIs Obama desperate enough to start a war to win this election?
Hell Freezes Over: Chinese State Run Media Get it 100% Right…
http://kristinainamericaland.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/hell-freezes-over-chinese-state-run-media-get-it-100-right/
Report Post »boone1
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 1:22amHave a gay guy come in and do all kind nasty crap to him
Report Post »IOWAGIR
Posted on August 24, 2012 at 10:38amwork place violence my A$$. I agree military tribunal. sp? shave him and let him die without his beard. Next try Obama….traitor!
Report Post »seminolegirl46
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 3:51amThis “animal” is an very educated and when he decided he hated the military he could have requested and received a discharge, but his hatred led him to murder 12 innocent individuals. As a disabled U.S. Army soldier who leaves near Ft. Hood, I’ve seen the devastation this man left behind and he deserves a bullet to the head, but why waste a good bullet? I want to see him waste many many long long years at Leavenworth where he will be surrounded by hundreds of men who will make his years drag by. He will wish he was dead. Karen Sgt, U.S.Army (ret)
Report Post »gail001
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 5:48am“Birther” Larkin – rightly or wrongly – gets bulldozed, Fort Hood KILLER gets mollycoddled by the Military. As Equaljustice said “Get this trial over with!!! Where is the “swift” justice these victims and their families deserve? This TERRORIST is making a mockery of our system and his victims”
Report Post »Both he and his blood brother Obama are dangerous traitors and deserve the Death Penalty.
liberty49
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 1:01pmAbsolutely!
Report Post »boyd9
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 2:03pmI don’t understand the issue. Let him have his beard, but DO NOT DELAY his trial. Justice can and should be done upon him with or without a beard.
Report Post »USA-USA-USA
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 10:43pmThis muslim murderer didn’t have a beard when he killed those soldiers. Even though he was a muslim at the time, he killed without a beard, so now let him be tried without a beard, then die without a beard. Shave him! Shave him now! Don’t be afraid to send a message to whomever, and *whatever*.
Report Post »mrmo
Posted on August 26, 2012 at 10:09amThis is B.S… This was not a sniper shooting. There are dozens of eye witnesses. Face it he went over to the bad guys side, he killed a lot of good loyal Americans and wounded a lot more lot more. The reason does not matter at this point. Both time and money are being wasted wile he just set’s in the brig. He did the crime now give him a bullet of his own, and let GOD deal with him.
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PJ Smith in Texas
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:30pmIt does matter. What we do says who we are. Not what we say. He should not be allowed to dictate to us how WE will behave.
We have values and rules. He wasn‘t Shanghi’d or even drafted.
He is a member of the US military until convicted. He will obey the rules therein.
Shave him. And if Washington DC screams bloody murder, call a press conference and EXPLAIN it to them.
Report Post »PJ Smith in Texas
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 3:32pmMade me laugh out loud !
Report Post »Beno1
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:27pmWow, us jarheads think alike, I like what you had to say, God Bless and Semper Fi.
Report Post »Beno1
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:31pmStrange: I replied to you USMC Patriot, agreeing with you and my reply didn’t show, I guess the truth isn’t needed here, I fought as yourself for the freedom to say what we want but, there must be someone on the staff who don‘t like certain people so they won’t post what they say? God Bless and Semper Fi.
Report Post »retiredguy1952
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 4:33pmNo, not “probably” drawing pay; he IS. As a military commissioned officer, he still draws full pay even while incarcerated. If an ENLISTED man or woman is incarcerated, their pay stops.
Report Post »jimandcharo
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:17pmAmen Bro!
Report Post »GTCharlie
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 9:44pmDid you folks read where a cop that I feel should be promoted for his refusing to go to a Muslim mosque because in his mind he thought it would be wrong for him to do so. Well, guess what, he has been punished by telling him not to apply for any promotions for the next year. In other words his career as a cop is shot.
Report Post »angf117
Posted on August 23, 2012 at 11:01pmhell YES!
Report Post »SZ939
Posted on August 25, 2012 at 3:19pmBob – That’s a little over the top, BUT, I totally agree!
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