Judge Halts Illinois From Cutting Funding To Catholic Charities Over Gay Parent Stance
- Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:08pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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Four Catholic Charities regional groups have been granted the right continue their adoption and foster program services in Illinois for at least another month thanks to Judge John Schmidt‘s decision to refuse allowing the state to cut funds based off the organization’s resistance to placing children with gay and unwed couples. Chicago Tribune:
“The judge set Aug. 15 for a full-scale hearing. In the meantime, he said, children in Catholic Charities‘ care will not be shifted to other social service agencies because that could risk ’irreparable injury.’
Catholic Charities argued the state’s interpretation of the civil union law is discriminatory because it would require placing children with gay or unwed couples. Such an action would violate religious protections built into the law, said attorney Tom Brejcha, who represented the group.”
The move comes after the state’s decision two days earlier to decline renewing a five decade relationship with the organization that serves nearly 2,000 foster children and their caseworkers.
“It’s a surprise. But it’s also very disturbing. The impact on the [nearly 2,000] children in Catholic Charities care will be catastrophic,” said a lawyer representing the Catholic Charities to the Chicago Tribune Monday.
The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services rejected renewing contracts with the Catholic Charities in the diocese of Peoria, Joliet and Springfield along with the Catholic Social Services of Illinois because “your agency has made it clear that it does not intend to comply with the Illinois Religious Freedom Protection and Civil Union Act.”
The Act was passed in January and took effect June 1. The law says agencies who receive state money must treat people in civil unions as they would married couples. Catholic Charities has not asked to overturn the law but rather protective legislation to allow them to continue their foster care and adoption services and refer unmarried, cohabiting couples, whether same-sex or opposite sex, to other agencies so as to not violate their religious beliefs. Their request was voted down at the end of May.
The move to cut funding to Catholic Charities is backed by Illinois Governor and self-proclaimed practicing Catholic Pat Quinn. The Democratic governor said Monday:
“We have a law in Illinois and that is the law. We have other entities that are involved in foster care that are willing to assume that duty and that opportunity.”
The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Catholic Charities has more than 3,000 children in their foster and adoption services across the state. Representing 20 percent of all Illinois adoption and foster-care services, the state pays Catholic Charities $30 million annually for its services.
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Comments (107)
jim
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:17pmThe Catholic Church wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place if it had used its considerable influence to get conservatives elected, instead of liberals. You dine with the devil, you choke on his food. Eventually, the state will cut back on all funding to Catholic Charities, and then an aggressive atheist charity group will step in and pick up all the foster kids left hanging. The Catholic Church will then have to accept gays, single parents, sodomy, polygamy, et al, or become irrelevant in the foster care market. Once again, just like the American Jews regarding Israel, a huge religious demographic has slit its own throat by going Democrat, placing their faith in liberals and atheists, not in God.
Report Post »Judeo_Christian
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:31pmJim, I shake my head every time I see our church support some liberal stance. All I can do is stand and be counted as a voice in opposition to the nonsense.
Report Post »Big Book Harry
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 1:43amThe only thing a religious organization should provide for gays is appropriate humanitarian aid, attend regular services and counseling by someone qualified to do so.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 2:21amThis will be a bonanza for lawyers in the private adoption biz. Why would a birthmother place her child with the State when she can shop for the right couple to adopt her child through Private Adoption. With the State its Thank You Ms……. will take it from here.
Report Post »pazzo242
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 4:45amI could not agree with you more. as a catholic I was constantly at odds with the stance they were taking. I love my church but have serious doubts about the political leadership.
Report Post »riaf-decnalab
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 10:36amWho speaks for the Catholic Church and who did it endorse as a political candidate. You might find a truly liberal priest or nun who endorses a political candidate, but I’ve never seen the Chirch promote a candidate (especially from Rome). Do you have any examples?
Report Post »warloch
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 10:59amJim,
Report Post »I loved your comment you hit the nail squarely on the head. I love your quote “You dine with the devil, you choke on his food”?
:-)
Chuck Stein
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 3:53pmWell said, Jim.
Report Post »IZAYAFIVE2021
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 4:03pmI have to agree Jim, but I would say that the first thing the Church should do is to cease being tax exempt. The Catholic Church and all other churches should renounce their tax exempt status and then say and do as they please.
Of course, the libs and the progressive supporters would then charge the religious institutions with some sort of hate crime.
Lets stop the non sense and be proud of being a country based freedom endowed by our Creator based on Judeo-Christian values.
Report Post »IZAYAFIVE2021
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 4:08pmI don’t know how Govenor Pat Quinn can call himself Catholic if he does not believe what the Catholic Church teaches! He is a politician first, so everything else is a lie.
Report Post »taksavillage
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 6:48pmThe Catholic Church is suffering from the corrupting modernism of Vatican II and the institution of free-form Catholicism. Pockets of Catholic Traditionalists still exist, however, continuing the traditional Latin worship and Catholic dogma.
Report Post »JUSTANOTHEROPINION
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 9:24pmGreat piece. The truth has no agenda. Bravo Jim – bravo.
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 1:31amThe whole idea is to not allow anyone to hold any type of morals. If there can be no discrimination, then anything anyone wants to do is then allowable. Gay “rights” is not the same as civil rights. To believe otherwise simply makes you a member of a cult. If one wishes to live and believe the way our forefathers did we are automatically racist, bigoted people. Want to marry half dozen women? How about various combinations of family members? Whats so wrong with marrying off your daughter at 12? Its all relative. There is a reason that Jesus points out repeatedly it is not the law that will save you.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 11:15amAs a Catholic, I have to agree with your comment. I have been ready several times to walk out when I thought they were going to preach the “social justice” thing. I don’t understand how anyone who professes to be a Catholic could vote dimocRat. They go against all the teachings of the church on morality, sexuality, abortion, etc. It boggles my mind that the likes of Quinn, Cuomo and Nazi Poofluzi haven’t been excommunicated for their stand on abortion.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:15pmSo the state intends to violate the religious rights of a Christian child by granting adoption to homosexuals? Is that how it works? So if homosexuals want to adopt a child, they can teach it how to be a proper homosexual? Isn’t that the point of the law? If children are a blank slate then how can anyone say that a child is born a homosexual? It seems that is what liberals believe. That children have no sexual identity or preferences when they are born and get them as they grow. Isn’t that what non gender classes are all about? Therefore, if children learn from their adults their identity, won’t children of homosexuals learn that being a homosexual is their identity? Do we want homosexuals adopting posssibly multiple children and turning them into homosexuals that do not produce children themselves? Isn’t a society that creates such an environment committing suicide? Which is the point of liberal-socialism. They are suicidal in their beliefs. Liberalism-socialism is mental illness disguised as a belief system.
Report Post »mickie4
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 9:16amIt is a form of CHILD ABUSE to give a baby/child to anything other than a married man & woman.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:12pmThey can do what they want and discriminate against gays as long as they don’t receive public money and the benefit of tax exempt status.
Report Post »Free the Midwives
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 11:23pmIsn’t that discriminating against the Catholic Charities? If you use this logic, then Christians and others shouldn’t have to use their tax dollars to support other organizations who do place children with homosexual couples or unmarried couples. Let the free market work and let the organizations that do the best job (outcomes for the children) for the least cost to taxpayers get the funding.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 2:00amIsn’t the point of adoption agencies to do what is best for the child? Don’t they naturally discriminate between couples based upon many factors to put the child in the best possible home? How is a homosexual couple the best possible home for a child over a tererosexual one?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 2:02amDoh, I meant heterosexual one
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 3:25amThe discrimination is being directed towards the catholic chruch adoption services.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 5:56amI think all churches should lose their tax exempt status because they have become big business. People pay money to churches, churches employ people, they provide services, entertainment, child care, etc. just like other businesses that have to pay taxes. Also I was adopted by heterosexual parents, however, as a child I would have been happy with any two loving parents rather than no parents and housed in an institution or shuttled between temporary foster parents. You Christians think you know what’s best for everyone and need to stop pushing your version of morality on everyone else.
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 5:59amBTW, I used to be Catholic also. The idea of transubstantiation, is what got me really thinking about my Catholic faith and after applying about an ounce of reason, came to the conclusion that this was one crazy cult!
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 1:49amStop pushing our version of morality on everyone else? Tell me what cultures and societies throughout history have valued other versions of morality that are substantially different? There have been various cults that have, but overall human society has not. The fact is that folks like you simply wish to have no morality. Funny you cite transubstantiation as your reason for rejecting the Catholic church, but not pedophile priests whose tastes ran not to young girls but to young boys. But what the heck, you wouldn’t want to judge anyone, right? After all that’s how Christians behave, at least ones who haven’t been co-opted, or ones who are more concerned with appearances than what is right. But then folks like that aren’t really Christians, they just call themselves Christians. And just think what the world would have been like without those dirty Christians. Why we could still be burying a child in the foundations of our homes for good luck! Maybe even being entertained on live TV reality programming with sacrificial deaths and beating hearts being ripped from the sacrifice. If only those Catholic Spaniards hadn’t been so racist!
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 1:50amby the way I am not Catholic either.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 8:33amYou’re funny, Holy Ghostbuster. You say you don’t want “their version of morality” as you’re trying to spread YOUR version.
Report Post »ConservDadASD
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:11pmWhen is the Pope gonna finally speak Ex Cathedra and declare that all gov’t officials who claim to be Catholic and yet vote pro-abortion and try to force the gay rights agenda down our throat, must either repent immediately or face imminent excommunication?
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:26pmConservdadasd: The Pope has already done this, as has his predecessor. The Bishops have, I believe, refused the order to prosecute.
Report Post »eddvoss
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:02pmthis flies directly in the face of the First Amendment. It is discriminating against a church because of their religious beliefs. How long will it be before saying anything against Gays will be considered a Hate Crime and punished as such? If a church refuses to perform Gay weddings will that be punished as a hate crime? Many will tell that asking these questions is just being ridiculous, but weren’t they the same ones who told us that if the SC overturned the sodomy laws in TX the Gays would not be pushing for gay marriage as a result? How long did it take before the push began?
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:58pmI have news for you. In the Bible it says Christians will be HATED for HIS sake. You can see it becoming a reality more and more each and every day. The end is coming but before it arrives ANYONE who is a Christian and stands on the word of the Bible will be called haters and the Lord only knows what else. Christians have to stand firm for His sake and our own SOULS. For my own opinion, as a Christian, I believe the Catholics should be able to NOT use their services for homosexuals if that is their beliefs. Guess they better not use tax dollars however. God bless. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »madarain
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 3:13amGrannyjojo…You nailed it. A depraved world will call evil good, and good, evil. It will take every ounce of faith and trust we have as christians not to buckle in to the pressure to approve,.but if we have faith in God and trust in the Lord, we will be delivered by the grace of Jesus Christ…Remember, Jesus already went thru a similar test, was faithful ’til the end, and was victorious over Satan and the world. We can too, by following his example… “Trust in the Lord and lean not unto thine own understanding, In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He will direct thy path”…amen.
Report Post »EddardStark
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:59pmAnother case of activist judges abusing their power.
Report Post »JJBlazeReader
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:40pm..
Report Post »Good first move by the Judge, let’s see what happens at the full hearing on August 15th.
DonnaA
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:35pmCatholics should stand on their faith. I’m glad they are fighting back and getting respect for their rights!
Report Post »Judeo_Christian
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:33pmREPUB1 you are a buffoon and a bigot. As a Catholic, I do not “worship” the pope. Worship is reserved for God alone…see the first commandment. Catholics only the Holy Trinity, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Period! Not Christian…give me a break!!
You can thank the Catholics for the Bible you hold in your hands.
Inform yourself before you make such outlandish statements yourself out to be an imbecile. I
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 2:12amHistorically it was the Catholic church that attempted to keep the Bible from the unread, uneducated peasants. And I do believe the Bible was translated into Greek first, not Latin. The first organized churches were not Roman, they were Assyrians. The first person we know historically that attempted to get the Bible to everyday people occurred in England through John Wycliffe, who 44 years after his death, on order of the Pope, was dug up, his bones crushed and then scattered in the river. It didn‘t help that Wycliffe believed that the church and it’s teachers shouldn’t be wealthy. Next, it was Scottish Presbyterians who literally died for the crime of carrying a Bible from house to house in order to do Bible study without a Priest. In America these peoples descendents are the Scots-Irish of Appalachia.
Report Post »I don’t discount all that Catholic church has done for Christianity, but to arrogantly state that the very Bible Christians use is because of the Catholic church is a statement too broad to not invite dispute. Stating this discounts all that the Greek or eastern Orthodox did, not to mention old Christian faiths like Coptic Christians, or the newer Protestants. Martin Luther would not have been necessary if the Medieval church had not been so corrupt.
Katydidnt
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:30pmRepub1
Report Post »Catholics don’t worship the pope. A lot of them don’t even like him. The Pope is the administrator running the Church until Jesus returns again. Like the administrators in the parables, he will be held accountable for his actions for good or for bad. There is a website called http://www.catholic.com that answers many of the misconceptions about Catholics. You were probably taught by people you respect about these misconceptions. You are not going to learn the truth about what conservatives believe by talking to a liberal. You need to ask a conservative. If you want to know what Catholics really believe go to that website.
Judeo_Christian
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:54pmKaty, The Pope is more than an just an Administrator. He sits on the Throne of Peter. Just as Peter was given the Keys to the Kingdom by Christ, so does Pope Benedict XVI have this authority. This authority provides for the “binding or loosing” of Sin in Heaven and on Earth (Mathew 16:19).
Peter was the first bishop of Rome whom all the other 11 apostles looked to for ultimate authority (Acts of the Apostles). He was first among equals, if you will. Jesus Christ promised to protect the Church for all time and that “Hell will not prevail against it”. He did not leave his bride (“The Church”) orphaned after his resurrection. The Holy Spirit protects the Church and keeps it from teaching in error on matters of faith and morals.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 11:02pmI know he sits on the chair of Peter, but he acts as a prime minister does in the absence of the King. Like Joseph and the Pharoah, or Daniel and Nebuchanezzer. Jesus is the head of the Church. I am not differing from Church doctrine in my statements. God in everything He does has us participate, like giving man dominion over his creation in Genesis. So He gave Peter and His successors the authority to act in His stead and in authority over His Church, but the ultimate authority begins and ends in God. Those who sit in the Chair of Peter will be asked to give an accounting of how they used their position of authority.
Report Post »The comment of some people not liking him refers specifically to my mother. In general I think he is good, I just wish he would get off the environmental global warming kick. He is trusting “experts” who are deceivers.
momprayn
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 12:18amAs a Protestant, I have researched Catholicism many times & I also checked the one mentioned. Confirmed what I already thought – many, many unscriptual doctrines & many based upon traditions of men which Scriptures warn against…the papacy being one of the top ones – misinterpretation about Peter in Matthew – Jesus states He will build His Church on Peter’s STATEMENT of who He is. (Meaning the DEITY OF CHRIST is the “rock” that the Church is built on not Peter). I Cor. 3:11, 12; Eph. 2:20, 21
Since I checked yours, maybe you’ll check “mine”? With all due respect, you might want to check out this site:
Report Post »http://www.biblicist.org/bible/catholic.shtml
I do pray for unity as Christ did………..research for yourself and never accept what any priest, minister, “pope” says and only put your faith and trust in the Bible – Non Catholic one & ask God (Holy Spirit) to guide you unto all truth — and the “truth shall set you free.” God bless.
Katydidnt
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 12:46amOkay, read several sections of it. First off praying for the dead predates Christ. It did not come along in 300 AD. The Pharisees believed in the Resurrection of the Dead before the Final Judgement. If someone died in sin, they offered up holocausts and sin offerings on their behalf so that they would be right with God at the time of the Resurrection. You can find an account of them doing this in 2 Maccabees. The Saduccees did not believe in the Ressurection of the dead. Many of the Pharisees became followers of Jesus and continued the practice but instead “baptizing” the dead. Peter mentions this in one of his epistles. It was also incorporated into their early masses, where the Body and Blood of Christ replaced the sacrifice of sheep and bulls.
Two the Apocraphal books were part of the Septuigent, which was the Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures that was distributed to Jews in exile. This also predates Christ. Jesus and Paul quote from the Septuigent. The Gospels refer back to them. At the cross when it is said, “Let us see if God will deliver him” refers to a long messianic prophecy in the book of Wisdom. This version was accepted by the Pharisees, although not the Saducees, because of the references to the resurrection and their belief that God only spoke through Hebrew. Paul was a Pharisee, and when he says all scripture is inspired by God that would be the Scriptures he was talking about.
Report Post »Katydidnt
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 1:05amThe “extra” books were included in the Bible when the canon was decided, the lone critic was St. Jerome who felt that those books should have been in Hebrew. Interestingly enough, Hebrew copies of them were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in 1948.
After the fall of Jerusalem, where horrendous numbers of Jews died and not one Christian (they had fled to the hills, following the warnings of Jesus) the remaining Jews mostly Sadducees met set their own canon, eliminating all extra books. They no longer viewed “Christianity” as some offbeat sect of Judaism. There was a very permanent and bitter divide. I believe that the Jews like St. Paul and others who became Christians had a more important say over what was included in our Bible and they decided they should be in.
They were in every Bible up until the 1850s. Even the original King James had them in. Luther didn’t remove them from the Bible, just segregated them to a special section he called the Apocrypha. The Council of Trent was just reaffirming what had been done, in response to the challenge.
The Catholic Church did have several common language Bibles,St. Bede’s English version predates Wycliffe by100 years. There were German Bibles before Luther. The Catholic Church did burn Bibles but they were ones with errors in them. The Protestants did the same thing. They also burned or buried them is they had fallen into disrepair, they were sacred and not to be thrown in the trash
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:04pmThe Catholics should have a say in who adopts their babies
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 6:01amI agree, as long as they’re not receiving tax dollars and tax free status.
Report Post »geonj
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:00pmjust one more reason gay marriage laws are problematic. it goes against the church’s teachings so leave the church alone. no more communion for pat quinn.
Report Post »JEANNIEMAC
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:19pmRevelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Report Post »Pat Quinn, professing to be a Catholic, wants to cut funding to Catholic Charities for not allowing adoptions to homosexuals.
G.K. Chesterton: “Having a right to do something is not at all the same as being right in doing it,”
REPUB1
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:56pmGay and lesbians getting adoption rights from a church that supports Gay’s ??? what is wrong with this pic ?? any real christians would see it is an Abomination against GOD….. why support these loser’s of whom dont even know the way to Salvation burn burn burn!!!!!!!!! care for children for whom do they serve ?????????????????
Report Post »thinkinaboutthefuture
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:51pmYour such a poser, you have no idea of Christian roots… Catholics are the original Christian religon…all others came after the Martin Luther Reformation which are lutherans…many others splintered off from there. Usually changing the faith to accomadate their lifestyles. When you share your thoughts you sound ignorant, you whould keep them to yourself
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 2:56amFunny, I thought the first Christians were Jews, and I’m pretty sure the Assyrians and the Armenians show up before the Catholic Church, but maybe all those ancient churches in Cappadocia Turkey were part of the Roman Catholic church and I just didn’t realize it.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 8:35amMere…do you even know the difference between a Jew and a Christian? Based on your comments, I reallly don’t think you do.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:47pmThank God there is some common sense still in the world.
Report Post »crazyrightwingmom
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:46pmCatholic Charities, that does great work, is being forced out in areas that want to force their agenda on us. It’s a shame. We used to care for the children first…they used to poke in every corner of our lives to find the BEST home. That’s is all that should be important, and studies show a a mom and dad are the BEST. My son is attracted to men…I know he would be a wonderful, caring dad, but what is best for the children?
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 6:02amWhat is best for children, you ask? A loving caring dad.
Report Post »crazyrightwingmom
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 12:32pmNo, Holy Ghostbuster. That may be good, but a mom AND dad are the best.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 4:06pm@ Crazyrightwingmom: Right on.
Report Post »Aiser
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:38pmThe catholic organization has something MUCH more important then some new law Mr. Governor. And that is PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. As a child adoption organization, it is their job to evaluate and properly discriminate whom can adopt their children to best fit their needs. This means going through the potential parents sexual-identity if they wish to do so, criminal background and even financial history. The last thing you want is to hand over those children to a pair with a criminal background, all because some B.S anti-discrimination law says so.
Report Post »Howsit
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:37pmSo the mindset is: So what if the foster children suffer as long as we push our agenda?
Report Post »I am sure that by shutting out Catholic Charities that a group with much higher regard for the children’s welfare will step up and do a better job. (heavy on the sarcasm)
tom
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:36pmObama has a connection here, not just the same ideology as Mellisa Bradley, but an organization Glenn has taught us about for years: Georgetown is no longer “Catholic” according to the teachings of the church.
Georgetown University is the oldest Catholic and Jesuit institution of higher learning in the United States and there sits Mellisa Bradley, who serves on the Georgetown University Alumni Association Board of Governors, has high-profile connections to the pro-abortion rights and pro-gay “marriage” movements.
Ms. Bradley actually serves on the board of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, which last year alone poured over $2 million into the election of candidates fighting for same-sex marriage and, of course, abortion. (The Victory Fund explicitly requires every candidate it endorses to “demonstrate support of federal, state or local efforts to safeguard privacy and reproductive rights.”)
And that’s just one of Ms. Bradley’s achievements in her spare time. At her day job, she is CEO of the Tides Foundation, a public charity that donates millions to support what Pope John Paul II called the “culture of death.”
Report Post »Santi
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:37pmTom you absolutly right about what you have written. I am and will always be a true Catholic. The Catholic Church is the Bride of Jesus Christ and satan is behind trying to destroy the Chruch from within. satan hates us, true believers of the faith, because we believe in what Jesus and the FATHER have tuaght us. We believe in the Sacraments were as other faiths don’t. Other religions believe in fagministers and they getting gays married and having little animals (pets) as their children. I will pray for all these people because that is what JESUS taught us, never give up on the sinners because we are all in the same boat. I tell my cildren that none of them will step in a Catholic university because the Bishops are afraid to condemn the Gays due to stupid hate speech. They’re wrong we need 2 speak the truth no matter what this gov. says. ostupid is going to hell if he does not ask The Almighty 4 forgiveness. GOD BLESS
Report Post »mere citizen
Posted on July 15, 2011 at 3:01amThe same has occurred within the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutherans, the United Methodist, the Presbyterians and…… well I could just keep going on.
There has been a systematic overtaking of American institutions since about the 1920′s, accelerated in the late 1950s and through the 1960s and 70s. The churches, unfortunately, have not been immune.
Report Post »lonewolf57
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:36pm“We have a law in Illinois and that is the law. We have other entities that are involved in foster care that are willing to assume that duty and that opportunity.”
And with that statement,the Catholic Church should say bye,bye Illinois!
There are 49 other States.Pat Quinn and Michael Pfleger are no more practicing Catholics than B.Hussein Obama practices Christianity.
Report Post »GABOB
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:34pmMore religious discrimination from the tolerant people on the left. We are witnessing the gaying of america via legistation.(Iowa, NY, MA, etc.)
Certainly this will found to be illegal.
Report Post »Howsit
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:41pmPerhaps an Islamic based organization would be more tolerant?
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 5:55pmislam does not allow adoption.. at all..
muslims who say that they have adopted are really keeping a slave..
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:32pmya know I do not understand why peopel make such a big deal about the fact that Catholic charities doesnt allow gay or unwed people to adpot. doesnt the USA give money to poor countries, these countries VERY often refuse to allow gays to adopt and they are VERY strict about who can adopt children are we going to stop funding poor nations? I think we should but NOT for this reason. Catholic charities does a great job at what they do and there are other agencies that WILL allow anyone to adopt.. so whats the big deal?
Report Post »JRook
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:55pmRegardless of how you feel about the underlying issue, it is wrong for the government to cur off funding for the good work the Catholic Charities is doing in this regard. A similar intolerance to a private organization having its own beliefs, rules and traditions is exactly why I no longer give money to the United Way. They cut off funding from the Boy Scouts, because they would not sign UW’s diversity pledge that would have required them to change their anti homosexual stance. There are more than enough organizations who may accept the lifestyle and provide adoption services. Using money to force private organizations to abandon their beliefs or fundamentally change what their organization stands is an assault on liberty and personal rights.
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:27pmAgreed JROOK, there are plenty of other agencies that the same sex couples can go to. This is a calculated political attack aimed at a groups belief system. The children be damned.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:23pm@Czar Casm My father had a great saying…Your civil rights end at the tip of my nose, cause that’s where mine begin…. If more people realized this perhaps we could regain true liberty in the US. Zealots on either side of the political spectrum who want to control or people based on intellectual elitism or religious convictions are equally dangerous to individual freedom and flies in the face of liberty for all.
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:29pm“The move to cut funding to Catholic Charities is backed by Illinois Governor and self-proclaimed practicing Catholic Pat Quinn.” Illinois Archbishop, whoever you are, stop being gutless and excommunicate this creep.
Report Post »angelcat
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:40pmAmen1 He needs to be publicly rebuked by the Archbishop. If Quinn doesn’t believe in the beliefs of the Catholic Church, he needs to leave the Church and stop saying he is a Catholic.
Report Post »PAPPY72
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:28pmGovernment shouldn’t be involved in charity at all. Then government can’t use the power of the purse to force us to support hedonism.
Report Post »sundaisy91
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 1:58amThat’s right. Government should be out of it. These charities were around long before the government started stepping in. They survived on the donations of people and i’m willing to bet many people will step in to donate again.
Report Post »Av8tor056
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:28pm“We have a law in Illinois and that is the law.” That’s what he said. Where‘s Eric I’ll only enforce the laws I want to Holder?
Report Post »Funny how when a liberal passes a law, it’s THE LAW and WILL be enforced while the Constitution and all other laws will only to be enforced when it suits them.
angelcat
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:29pmWhile the governor has to follow the law, there is nothing saying he can’t make a personal statement supporting Catholic Charities and affirming the beliefs of his faith. Of course he might lose some votes next time, but integrity often results in loss of popularity. Personally, I don’t think he would lose any but the gay votes and a few more since most people admire those who will stand up for what they believe it.
Report Post »Longpond
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 8:26amI had the same thought. Illinois must be deporting illegals by the thousands. Havn’t heard as such, but “the law is the law” up there.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:26pmWhat part of Catholic isn’t clear?
>The long established organization’s religious beliefs
Report Post »trump new non-Catholic laws.
REPUB1
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 8:59pmSPIRITED none of IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by worshiping the pope and not GOD, give me a break they are NOT CHRISTIANS
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:28pmREPUB1 “worshiping the pope?” You must be a Lid because that is a lie. Or dumb?
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 9:41pm@REPUB1
We worship the pope? WHAT!!?????? Good grief, we do not worship (adore) the pope. Adoration is due to God and God alone. Should I break out the Nicene Creed to give a brief and concise summary of Catholic beliefs?
And yes, we ARE Christians. We are the first Christians.
Do not be like an unskilled gladiator who swings his sword in wild abandon, harming no one but himself.
Report Post »heavywx
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 11:22pmI’ve read the Nicene Creed, the Catechism and the canon laws of the RCC, and it made my skin crawl, pure blasphemy. The blaze simply does not give enough characters in a post for me to refute the lies that have been perpetrated by the RCC down through the ages. I will say this though, your religion is responsible for almost as many murders as Islam.
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on July 13, 2011 at 11:26pm@REPUB1
They are more Christian then that portion of the protestant churches that have forsaken Jesus in order to get along with the world. At the end of this church age you will see a division between those who are truly Christian and those who drift away and are not. A distinction between the wheat and the tares. Those who grow in Christ Christ are correctable and will grow strong in Christ. Jesus is returning for a glorified church.
Report Post »ChristianLayman
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 12:34am@heavywx
Okay, I’ll bite. Please state what exactly of the Nicene Creed is Blasphemous. You‘re aware that it’s a longer form of the Apostles’ Creed, right? Should I post the Nicene Creed for all to see. I seriously doubt you’ve read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, nor have any knowledge of history outside of what you read in a random Chick Tract. Catholicism is responsible for as much death as Islam? Should I start naming atrocities committed by Protestants in some absurd attempt to justify my faith buy saying “well at least I’m not that tax collector in the back pew”. How Pharisaic are you?
Report Post »holy ghostbuster
Posted on July 14, 2011 at 6:05am@ SPIRITED – “>The long established organization’s religious beliefs
Report Post »trump new non-Catholic laws.” Like transubstantiation, limbo, idol worship, pagan rituals, and exorcisms?