Judge Halts New Wisconsin Labor Law
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A Wisconsin judge issued a temporary restraining order Friday blocking the state’s new and contentious collective bargaining law from taking effect, raising the possibility that the Legislature may have to vote again to pass the bill.
Lawmakers had passed Gov. Scott Walker’s measure last week, breaking a three-week stalemate caused by 14 Senate Democrats fleeing to Illinois. Demonstrations against the measure, which would strip most public workers of nearly all their collective bargaining rights, grew as large as 85,000 people.
Dane County District Judge Maryann Sumi granted the order in response to a lawsuit filed by the local Democratic district attorney alleging that Republican lawmakers violated the state’s open meetings law by hastily convening a special committee before the Senate passed the bill.
Sumi said her ruling would not prevent the Legislature from reconvening the committee with proper notice and passing the bill again.
Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie would not comment on whether the governor would push to call the Legislature back to pass the bill again, either in its current form or with any changes.
In addition to restricting the bargaining rights, the law would require most public workers in the state to contribute more to their pension and health care costs, changes that will amount on average to an 8 percent pay cut. Werwie said Walker was confident the bill would become law in the near future.
“This legislation is still working through the legal process,” Werwie said.
A spokesman for Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald declined to comment, citing the ongoing legal fight. A spokesman for Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.
Even if the Legislature is forced to come back and take up the bill again, at least one Senate Democrat will be there. Sen. Tim Cullen said he would not leave the state again.
“I think that does great damage to the institution,” Cullen said. “I have no regrets about doing it once, but that was in extraordinary times to try to slow the bill down.”
The Senate couldn’t pass the bill in its original form without at least one Democrat to meet a 20-member quorum requirement for measures that spend money. With the Democrats in Illinois and refusing to return after three weeks away, Republicans convened a special committee last Wednesday to remove the spending items. The bill then passed with no Democrats present.
That move is being challenged in another lawsuit brought by Democratic Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, who argues the bill as passed still should have required the 20-member quorum. The same judge that issued the temporary restraining order was taking testimony Friday in that case, but has said she would not issue a ruling on Friday.
Opponents of the law were hopeful the judge’s ruling temporarily blocking enactment of the law would lead to concessions.
“I would hope the Republicans would take this as an opportunity to sit down with Democrats and negotiate a proposal we could all get behind,” said Democratic Sen. Jon Erpenbach.
The head of the state’s largest teachers union said the Legislature should use this as a chance to listen to opponents of the measure, not vote to pass the same bill again.
“Wisconsin’s educators call upon the Legislature to take this as a clear signal that Wisconsinites will not tolerate backroom deals and political power plays when it comes to our public schools and other valued services,” said Mary Bell, president of the Wisconsin Education Association Council.
Marty Beil, director of the state’s largest public employee union, said in a statement, “We are gratified to see some of our so-called `leaders’ finally held accountable for their illegal actions.”
Assistant Attorney General Steve Means said the Justice Department planned to appeal the ruling. Since Sumi‘s order isn’t final, the agency must secure permission from the state court of appeals before it can bring a case, Means said. Agency attorneys planned to make the request later Friday or perhaps early next week, Means said.
If the agency wins permission, it can pursue an appeal with the state appeals court or try to get the state Supreme Court to hear the case.
Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne filed the lawsuit this week alleging the open meetings law was violated because 24 hours‘ notice wasn’t given for a meeting of the special legislative committee convened to amend the bill.
Justice Department attorneys argued that notice on a bulletin board posted about two hours before the committee meeting was to start last Wednesday was sufficient under rules of the Senate.
The judge said DOJ couldn’t show the committee was exempt from the 24-hour notice requirement. She said Ozanne could ultimately win the case and ordered Secretary of State Doug La Follette to hold off on publishing the law – the last step before it can take effect. La Follette had planned to publish the law on March 25.
Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca of Kenosha said the ruling was a move in the right direction.
“I’m very pleased,” Barca said. “As you know, I felt from the moment they called this that this would be a violation of open meetings law. This is an important first step in this regard.”
The bill was part of Walker’s solution for plugging a $137 million state budget shortfall. A part of the measure would require state workers to increase their health insurance and pension contributions to save the state $30 million by July 1. Other parts of Walker’s original proposal to address the budget shortfall were removed before the bill passed last week. The Legislature planned to take those up later.
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Associated Press writer Todd Richmond contributed to this report.
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geonj
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:13pmdems are used to this. using the courts to legislate is as familiar to them as using govt departments like the epa to circumvent the legislative process. the two party system is broken. it is up to the american people to demand that their representatives put party behind them and govern the ways the founding fathers wanted.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:42pmHey buddy, you do realize that the Supreme Court upheld the right of the EPA to regulate emissions related to global warming?? Do you not know this? Or do you wish to propagate a lie?
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:05pmABC,
You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?
LOL!!!
Report Post »Atlappraiser
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:07pm@ABC, global warming doesn’t exist.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:24pm“@ABC, global warming doesn’t exist.”
I see. So you’re denying that:
- this is the warmest decade in recorded history
- the North Pole will probably be free of ice this summer, which is also unprecedented in recorded history
I‘d be willing to accept if you’d say that man-made global warming does not exist, but global warming is very real and undisputed.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:17pmNon-sequitur:
With all the problems in our future, I’d tend not to worry about climate change. It’s basically out of Americans control. You think China and India and the other 3rd world-ers are worried about this when 90% of the population lives below poverty?
Also, if the earth is getting “warmer”, what’s the basis of your context, 75 years? The reason I ask is that there used to be some things roaming the earth once upon a time called “dinosaurs”. Meaning, the earth is not a Utopian, static entity. It is dynamic and ever-changing.
I guess I just don’t understand how a reasonable mind can fall for a scientific “theory” whose scientific basis is about 100 years of data. The scary thing is that this is really simple stuff that half the population fails to grasp and we wonder why we’re churning out slugs out of schools???
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:02pmHaus, germ theory of illness is just a theory, so I guess you ignore that one too…
You are so ignorant of science that it is not even worth talking to you. But know this, I see clearly that you are a hypocrite since you selectively believe in science when it suits you but ignore it when it requires some sacrifice on your part–which means you lack principle. I also clearly see that you are a parasite, who attacks scientists and dismiss their work, but want to partake of the fruits of their labor nontheless. You are the worst of the worst. And you are the reason that we have so many problems. Fear and ignorance are the downfall of most civilizations, and you have both in spades.
Report Post »NoStoppingUs
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:28pm@ABC
Report Post »You are a great secular humanist. May you inherit the hellish world you seek.
JoeFriday
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:12pmthree weeks in a hotel to read the entire bill. When the notice went out in advance that the bill would be split, they were within an hour’s drive to attend the session. How is this actionable?
Report Post »Goldenyears22
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:34pmDid anyone ever know who paid for these derelect Democrats to stay three weeks in Illinois. Did it come from their own pockets, the union pockets or did they charge it to the state as being in caucus as they told the public. What a bunch of liars.
Report Post »concealled9mms
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:11pmwhy dont they just start over get a republican that is about to retire have him change parties and become a democrap and vote for the bill after its passed he can change back hell they do it in washington. you dont need the other democraps by what i have read hell they could go hide again.
Report Post »RoBoTech
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:02pmNice thought, but it won’t work.
Report Post »The problem was the number of people in the quorum, NOT the number of each political party.
Changing from GOP to Dem is fruitless as it they would STILL need one more person in the quorum to take the vote.
dawg of gawd
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:48pmSuch a wonderful day for freedom loving patriotic American heroes. Long live the middle class!
Report Post »cap0ne
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:10pmLooks like the Union thugs are calling in a marker with one of their bought and paid for judges.. Corruption runs deep in the state of Wisconsin..
Report Post »Rob_M
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:09pmGood to know judicial activisism is aliive and well.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:23pmIf you didn’t already know that, then you’re not paying attention. Look no further than Citizens United vs Federal Election Commission 1/2010.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:09pmActivist court at it again.
Report Post »B-Neil
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:09pmWhy bother haveing laws?? There only as good as the next Judge. Enless your poor and can’t afford a Lawyer. Then its just a matter of paperwork……..Carry on McDuff
Report Post »Susystin
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:01pmThis is why the progressives for years have been getting their people in to the education system (all levels), all levels of government, and sadly, the judicial system. This is why they are going after Clarence Thomas right now. Then it will be Scaila. Get rid of those two and the country is theirs. Right now, they have to make due with small time judges they have gotten in. These judges ought to be ashamed. They took an oath and they are not abiding by that oath. Of course, neither is our Congress and the progressive/marxist president. (notice I did not say, “our” president. He is not my president.
Report Post »Whirling Dervish
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:08pmSince when court supersedes the state senate, houses and governor??
Report Post »slade37
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:21pmIt may not be exactly the same, but AZ SB1070 immediately comes to mind. …I admit I’ve had little sleep and could be wrong. That’s my excuse anyway.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:43pmSince when does a court supersede the Us House, Senate and President?
heh heh heh heh heh
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:10pmWhen it breaks a state law – the open meeting law – it was not posted long enough!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-KJ
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:53pmWalkwithme,
Do your homework, special session rules are different then when in regular session. I am going to assume you are talking about this part of Wis stat 19.84
(3) Public notice of every meeting of a governmental body shall be given at least 24 hours prior to the commencement of such meeting unless for good cause such notice is impossible or impractical, in which case shorter notice may be given, but in no case may the notice be provided less than 2 hours in advance of the meeting.
That is the case in REGULAR session. DO take note of REGULAR in BOLD type. REGULAR!!! Not in special session, like they were. The Wisconsin legislatures were called to SPECIAL session by the Governor.
Now should you choose to try to make the argument as they also tried in the injunction to make that sufficient time was not garnered before a vote was enacted. That is easily debunked by Senate Rule 93
SENATE RULE 93. Special, extended or extraordinary sessions. Unless otherwise
provided by the senate for a specific special, extended or extraordinary session, the
rules of the senate adopted for the regular session shall, with the following modifications, apply to each special session called by the governor and to each extended or extraordinary session called by the senate and assembly organization committees or
called by a joint resolution approved by both houses:
(1) No senate bill, senate joint resolution or senate resolution shall be considered unless
it is germane to the subjects enumerated by the governor in the special session proclamation and is recommended for introduction by the committee on senate organization
or the joint committee on employment relations.
(2) No notice of hearing before a committee shall be required other than posting on the
legislative bulletin board, and no bulletin of committee hearings shall be published.
Special notice should be taken by the author of this injunction to section (2). As can be seen at this point that the injunction has failed before even leaving the stable. The Democrats have made wild accusations of wrong doings when in fact the laws and rules have been followed, and the Democrats abdicated their duties when they decided to shut down democracy when they fled the state.
Report Post »As a little topping to the pie so to speak that can be found in Wisconsin statute 946.12
946.12 Misconduct in public office. Any public officer or public employee who does any of the following is guilty of a Class I felony:
946.12(1)
(1) Intentionally fails or refuses to perform a known mandatory, nondiscretionary, ministerial duty of the officer‘s or employee’s office or employment within the time or in the manner required by law;
Star Spangled
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:07pmI’d bet somehow Obama is behind this .
Report Post »Stuck in Madison
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:13pmObama has his goons all over this! We must defeat him here!
Report Post »Skylight
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:20pmYou think? Of course, he’s the teflon president. Nothing sticks – at least not yet.
Its been said that the eyes are the mirror or the soul. Look in the eyes of this putrid judge – you’ll see the deceit and lies hidden within. She knows her ruling is wrong, but, owes her soul to the unions and dems.
God help us. We sit back, post on message boards, and yet do nothing to stop this tyranny.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:06pmWalker and gang have made absolutely sure this was airtight. This is just another hypocritical liberal move.
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:06pmWhen the Demos win it is because they were right. When the Republicans win it is a major mistake and must be corrected. I think Democrats are a major abomination and must be eliminated. There I said you pukey Union Thugs, now come and do something about it.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:26pmSo you’d be okay with a one-party system?
Report Post »BeerSnob
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:57pmI’d rather see a no-party system. Everybody’s an independant.
Report Post »El Jefe
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmNot suprising at all…at least the judge isn’t hiding.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:18pmShe just left “on vacation” til the 28th!
Report Post »Cabo King
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmah, a dem judge!!! his pockets lined with union money!!
Report Post »Bigliardi
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:15pmHER pockets…District Judge Maryann Sumi…..AKA So sue me Soomi….because so many of her rulings are suspect….
Report Post »Joisey
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmWill of the People thwarted by liberal activist judge. That didn’t take very long, did it?
Report Post »BeerSnob
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmOne way or another, the unions will win. What’re you gonna do?
Report Post »IamEvilHomer
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmdamn i wanted to be 1st
Report Post »obama_binpharteen
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:03pmThat would seem to be a conflict of interest since the judge is a public employee.
Report Post »MartinLutherBling
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:02pmUnion Excrememt
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:25pmlol .. I think you are repeating yourself!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:02pmIn an “emergency” the 24 rule is suspened .. the Dems went AWOL for weeks .. = emergency … get another judge to overturn this idiot Dem “Judge” .
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:06pmsuspended ….
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:18pm@ catb
That is what I understood also.They gave approx. 2hr. notice but from what I understood in an emergency or I can’t remember the other word they used(I suffer from crs),But if this causes problems Walker should just go ahead and send out the 1500 lay-offs. Boy wouldn’t they just love that. I mean send them not just threaten to.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:30pmEither way, it was short at 1hr 55minutes.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:31pm@sissykatz
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:18pm
“That is what I understood also.They gave approx. 2hr. notice but from what I understood in an emergency or I can’t remember the other word they used(I suffer from crs),”
That is correct. This “stay” is politically motivated, and I’m not entirely certain how a judge could issue a stay on legislation to begin with.
“But if this causes problems Walker should just go ahead and send out the 1500 lay-offs. Boy wouldn’t they just love that. I mean send them not just threaten to.”
Right. I’d take it a step further, play hard ball. Lay off the 1500, ignore the judge, and implement the law as planned. Since when did we have to kowtow to lawless thugs hiding behind the guise of “law”?
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:36pmNonsense. Emergency refers to a governor’s delaration, which never came. Nice try. But you have no idea what you are talking about.
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:13pm@abc, you are completely out of line. “emergency session” is declared by the senate, according to senate rules which were upheld. The Dems have dispatched their cronies to do their bidding and you know it. You have no right to re-write circumstances, or rules, to suit your whims.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:44pmIt still doesn’t matter because the notice was not up for 2 hours – short by 15 minutes I believe – but I could be wrong!! http://wp.me/pYLB7-KJ
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:51pmIt didn’t require any notice, here is the Senate rule.
Senate Rule 93. Special, extended or extraordinary sessions. Unless otherwise provided by the senate for a specific special, extended or extraordinary session, the rules of the senate adopted for the regular session shall, with the following modifications, apply to each special session called by the governor and to each extended or extraordinary session called by the senate and assembly organization committees or called by a joint resolution approved by both houses:
(1) No senate bill, senate joint resolution or senate resolution shall be considered unless it is germane to the subjects enumerated by the governor in the proclamation calling the special session or to the subjects enumerated by the committees on organization or in the joint resolution calling the extended or extraordinary session and is recommended for introduction by the committee on senate organization or by the joint committee on employment relations.
(2) No notice of hearing before a committee shall be required other than posting on the legislative bulletin board, and no bulletin of committee hearings shall be published.
(3) The daily calendar shall be in effect immediately upon posting on the legislative bulletin boards. The calendar need not be distributed.
(4) Any point of order shall be decided within one hour.
(5) No motion shall be entertained to postpone action to a day or time certain.
(6) Any motion to advance a proposal and any motion to message a proposal to the other house may be adopted by a majority of those present and voting.
[cr. 1983 S.Res. 4]
Report Post »[(intro.) am. 1989 S.Res. 3]
[(1) and (3) am. 1995 S.Res. 2]
abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:59pmLaPua, “emergency” doesn’t even appear in the Senate rule. I think you are talking about extraordinary sessions. But whether that Senate rule trumps other state laws requiring notice is an open legal question. Not sure how you can quote words not in the bill, ignore the other laws in the controversy, but call me out of line…
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:04pm@BLACKHAWK1 – it is not a Senator rule or a rule of the Wis. Legislature – it is a state law! Sorry!
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hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 9:02pmWalkwithme,
How many times does it have to be said, that is only in REGULAR SESSION. They were in SPECIAL SESSION. There are different rules and statutes in place for that. Get that through your thick skull. Remove your head from the rears of moveon.org and mediamatters because they are feeding you WRONG information.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 9:14pmOh and Walkwithme, if you did some homework you would find this
Article IV, §8 – ANNOT.
Courts have no jurisdiction to review legislative rules of proceeding, which are those rules having “to do with the process the legislature uses to propose or pass legislation or how it determines the qualifications of its members.
in my states Constitution. So tell you what, why don’t run along and get a clue instead of spewing the media-matters and moveon.org tripe that is wrong.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 20, 2011 at 5:31pmJust not true CATB. We saw the alerts coming through Twitter to get to the capitol URGENTLY and there was communication from the 14 in IL. In fact, a bunch of us were watching on a cam in the room and saw that Barca was reading the rule/law that the vote was violating, and the R’s took the vote around him. It was very dramatic and probably can be seen on youtube. The bill WAS NOT read ahead of time. They didn‘t know what they were signing as it wasn’t the same bill, the financial components had to be taken out so this could be passed without a forum (which really highlights that this was exactly NOT what Walker represented it was.) One R actually voted against it (Schultz) and there’s some surmise that if they took the vote again, with the quorum, more R‘s may vote against it because there’s stuff in it they don’t agree with (ie. eliminating mandatory recycling.)
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:01pmFirst
Report Post »BeerSnob
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:03pmor not
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:07pmfifth! … rofl
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:14pmI meant 9rd
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:01pmI am shocked that this has happened — NOT.
Report Post »gwinfrey
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:16pmWhy should we be surprised. A liberal judge blocks legislation of the republicans while the POTUS totally ignores the blocking judgement of a District Court judge against Obama care? Go figure!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:06pmThe Dane county judiciary is a wholly ovned subsidiary of the democrat party. They want this to go to the supreme court before the election so they can “link” David Prosser and Scott Walker. Or after if their hack wins and they can uphold it as unconstitutional……We really need an attorney general who believes in doing something.
Report Post »PatriotComeLately
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:01pmEither the WI GOP sentors thought this through carefully and made sure that they were covered, or they are very, very stupid
Report Post »Patrick_Henry
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:14pmMy understanding is the 24 hour notice is for Regular sessions, but they were in “Special session” which only requires adequate notice and they gave 2 hours notice. In any case, they are stocking up the bars and restaurants in Rockford, Illinois again…
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:40pmThis is for the judge, not the legal consultants hired by the GOP, to determine. Personally, I think the law will pass…as much as I disagree with the law. The anti-democratic tactics of the left and the right depress me. If you are in the minority, you have to accept the rules of the majority as long as they are constitutional. The Republicans for the last two years used secret holds to stymie Democratic progress in Congress, and the Dems howled loudly, but now they support minority Dems leaving the state to freeze government. It should all stop. Republicans ought to get rid of paralyzing filibusters and secret holds, which they have refused to do, and they also should stop threatening to shut-down the government when they cannot get what they want. Democrats ought to stop fleeing the state legislatures (e.g, WI, TX) when they don’t like the laws that the majority wants to pass. Both parties sicken me…almost as much as the blind partisans that only call out one side, but are willing to tolerate the very same anti-democratic practices as long as their side benefits.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:10pm“A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.” – Scott Walker, C average sudent and college drop out.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:44pmAKMIIKEUS
So what you are saying is that Scott Walkers college transcripts are open to the public. Sure wish we could see how stupid Obama was in school be it grade school, high school, or college.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:04pmWhy is it that liberals act so uneducated when they put such a high priority on education for conservatives?
Report Post »CAmom
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:00pmAnother example of the democrats attempting to win with activist judges rather than through the ballot box. They run and hide and now they’re mad because they lost. I’m sick of their cheating lying ways.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:18pmThe judge is a whore for the dems as this judge no longer applies the laww blindly.
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Bigliardi
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:19pmJudge Maryann Sumi has been on the bench since 1998, and is considered a fine judge, and a POLITICAL LIBERAL……Googled Maryann Sumi……
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:35pmDefinition of an activist judge: one who rules in a case in a way different than you would rule. Nice principled position to take.
If you think only liberals like Obama attempt to end-run adverse judicial rulings, you have only been alive for the last couple of years.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:15pmNo ABC, an activist judge is a person who inserts them self into a conflict to right a supposed wrong that they see within the system and will defy Stare Decises and other judicial guidelines in order to get the result they want. To people in law enforcement they are a constant nuisance because many decide to pull a Judge Dredd and “become the law” instead of following it.
In this particular judges case, I have no idea about this judge. I live in the West and don’t really pay much attention to the legal going ons of a state unless there are a few thousand animals on the brink of being put down with force. When protesters act like rabid dogs, they should expect to be put down like them.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:55pmLord, one man‘s interpretation of the law is another man’s rewriting of it. There is no bright line rule for this, so please stop making it sound like you know with certainty when a judge is activist or not. Bush v Gore was the most activist ruling ever, and the SCOTUS admitted as much by expressly limiting its precedential value to zero. Yet conservatives never complain about that case as highlighting judicial activism. Please stop letting your politics blind you from the realities of what is going on.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:10pmBlack’s Law Dictionary defines judicial activism as a “philosophy of judicial decision-making whereby judges allow their personal views about public policy, among other factors, to guide their decisions.”
Essentially, the judge creates law by their decision instead of merely ruling based on established law.
A good example of this was Roe vs. Wade when the Supreme Court essential re-wrote the law on abortion (or created one) based on the decision. It was not based on a law, the law was essentially created out of thin air by the Judges and was considered precedent from that point on.
And to be fair, the Bush vs. Gore ruling is also considered an activist ruling as well.
Activist Judges are bad because they overstep their bounds and cross over the separation of powers by creating laws instead of simply judging based on current laws, thereby rendering the legislature irrelevant. It is bad for our Republic regardless of the final judgement because it sets a bad precedent.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:32pmAbc,
There IS a barrooms for this one though. There was clear precedent already established in regards to this senate rule (which is allowed by the state constitution) that they abided by when passing this legislation. This judge ignored the law completely and made a decision based on ideology. That is political activism from the bench.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 11:59amTime to take a page from Obama‘s playbook and simply ignore the judge’s ruling.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:33pmNo. That is the Republican playbook. From Roe v Wade to the Supreme Court saying the EPA can regulate greenhouse gasses, the GOP never respects the judiciary when it promulgates rulings that offend its far-right lunatic philosophies.
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:41pmABC, you are one serious effed up progressive whack job. What about Roe v. Wade and the EPA regulating “greenhouse gases”, both progressive ursupations of the US Constitution by the way, have Republicans ignored. Never mind that I think they should because there is no right to privacy in the Constitution nor should an essential by-product of human life be regulated by anyone but GOD! But I digress. You are despicable.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:48pmWhat has the EPA done to limit the the most offensive greenhouse gas that directly affects Climate Warming? What has the EPA done about limiting H2O in the air?
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:48pmExpat, that name-calling from you doesn’t change the facts. Roe v Wade and the case upholding the EPA’s right to regulate greenhouse gases are settled law. They are by definition constitutional since the SCOTUS has the final word on what is constitutional. You clearly do not understand US laws and how they are made and adjudicated. Stop talking. You are embarassing yourself.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:51pmPovertySucks, poverty of the mind is the greatest tragedy. Unfortunately, you suffer greatly from it. The cause of global warming is CO2 emissions, which H2O magnifies. To blame H2O for global warming is like blaming the road for drunk driving accidents. Nice try. Thanks for playing. Hopefully, others here are not so woefully ignorant.
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:56pmReally the GOP doesn‘t like when the liberals start ruling from the bench what they can’t pass through the congress.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:00pmObviously ABC, seems to have forgotten about Obamacare, or Barney Frank with is Fannie and Freddie fiasco, then there is your Pal Pelosi and her shady dealings….
So before you go throwing stones from your Glass looney bin. Please make sure you mention all the facts.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:04pmYou’re a fool to believe the socialist agenda in the manufacturing of the Climate Warming hoax. The sun warms the water in the air. How does C02 emissions warm the water in the air where there’s no co2 discharge?
Report Post »Jim from Maine
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:12pmABC, do you also post here under the name ENCINOM ??? You both make no sense and are pretty ignorant of anything to do with the law. Please do some research before you open your mouth and remove all doubt of the aforementioned ignorance.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:14pmLol, who would have figured, electing a college dropout with a “C” average out to run a state during a recession.
You just cant make this stuff up!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:26pmNot only law, but science as well. We all know Global Warming is/was a hoax, now.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:26pmABC’s ratings are really low .
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:28pm@ABC,
You just made Broker shake his head and chuckle in disbelief.
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:29pm“ABC, do you also post here under the name ENCINOM ??? You both make no sense and are pretty ignorant of anything to do with the law. Please do some research before you open your mouth and remove all doubt of the aforementioned ignorance.”
So correct him. Put up or shut up.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:43pmABC says “the case upholding the EPA’s right to regulate greenhouse gases are settled law. They are by definition constitutional since the SCOTUS has the final word on what is constitutional. You clearly do not understand US laws and how they are made and adjudicated.”
That sounds so intellgent, and said so authoritatively that one might believe the writer knew anything. He doesn’t. All one has to do is to point this nearly legally illiterate to the infamous Dred Scott Supreme Court case. You’d thing someone who can appear so well educated might actually know a little of history. One would be wrong in ABCs case.
I tend to disregard most of what he says, because he is so biased to the far left that he can hardly be seen, and he generally just wastes my time with such unfactual drivel.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:47pmAmikiius “You just cant make this stuff up!” Why not, you just did.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:12pm@ABC
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:51pm
“PovertySucks, poverty of the mind is the greatest tragedy. Unfortunately, you suffer greatly from it. The cause of global warming is CO2 emissions, which H2O magnifies. To blame H2O for global warming is like blaming the road for drunk driving accidents. Nice try. Thanks for playing. Hopefully, others here are not so woefully ignorant.”
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I reject your theory that CO2 emissions causes global warming and offer an alternate theory that it is the byproduct of a natural warming cycle in the earth. You can read more here: http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/global-warming-osu-scientist-reports-warming-a-natural-cycle-co2-as-byproduct-not-climate-driver/
Man made global warming is a hoax. The earth has natural global warming and cooling cycles, just like it has seasons and night and day cycles. And as of this writing I have not yet seen any credible evidence to prove that man has altered the global climate to any degree.
And just so you know, if Co2 was actually the cause, of global warming and not the byproduct, then the earth would already be lost and we are doomed to burn up (in a couple million years, or so, based on how much the global temp has risen in the last couple thousands years), and there is nothing we can do about it. Because the earth produces approximately 150 billion tons of Co2 naturally per year (compared to us creating on between 5 to 6 billion tons). This natural Co2 production would push the temps up causing more Co2 which would drive the temps up even higher and there would be nothing we could do to prevent it. Even if we had never produced a single ton of Co2 the earth would already be on a natural doomsday course of it’s own making. this is all assuming that Co2 really is the culprit.
But, I don’t believe all that. And the reason we see higher Co2 quantities during the natural warning cycle of the earth is because the warming of the earth produces more Co2 naturally. And so it would mean that there would be more Co2 as the earth warms up, but it will also decrease as it cools down (and the earth has cooled down since the middle ages). Again, man made global warming is a hoax and is being used as a means to control people through regulations based on falsified information.
But, you go ahead and believe what you want, I am not naive enough to think that what I write will change your opinion.
Report Post »AKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:27pmThe judge was Appointed by a republican no less! That’s gotta sting!
Report Post »Theleftisda
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:39pmThis is for the useless liberal progressive that said this judge was appointed by a republican Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi was appointed to the bench
Report Post »in 1998, elected in 1999 and re-elected in 2005. She handles criminal, civil
and family cases, and is currently Presiding Judge for Dane County. From
1999-2003 Judge Sumi was Presiding Judge of Juvenile Court for Dane
County. She is an Associate Dean of the Wisconsin Judicial College and
serves on the statewide Criminal Jury Instructions Committee
abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:53pmSoldiers-son– you are a moron if you think that such a theory passes scientific muster. I have posted real data from peer reviewed journals on climate change at this site before. I am not going to do it again. The consensus around global warming is quite strong, and a “conservative” view would be to heed the warnings rather than listen to snake oil salesmen who have not expertise merely so you can sleep soundly and guiltfree while you ignore the warnings of experts and leave a planet in far worse shape for future generations. Enough ignorance on the issue!
Bin Lying, until the SCOTUS rules on the constitutionality of Obamacare, there is no settled law. This is different than the crazy conservative view that somehow Roe v Wade or other cases that republicans wish the SCOTUS had not made is tantamount to Dredd Scott. And by the way, until the court overturned Dredd Scott, it was also settled law. So stop making dumb arguments that make it look like you think you are a higher authority than the Supreme Court. You are not. And neither is your delusional buddy Sparky.
Report Post »RJO
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:09pmABC has TONS of idle time.
Let’s guess….after reading reams of hard-left propaganda from ABC, my guess is that the acronym stands for Alleluia (gasp…religious word) Boma Crushes. I’m sure ABC will have some cute comeback laced in anti-Christian venom. Hey…bigotry seems to work for other Marxists….keep it coming loser. It re-affirms why millions of Americans are very, very concerned, upset and are standing up to this verbal dung….. and will speak at the ballot box (once again) in 2012.
I’ll help you on my acronym Rally to Jettison Obama. Persecution by these hard-lefties is a badge of honor.
Report Post »Navyveteran
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:14pmParadigmm
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:31pm
I’d like to point out a double standard but first an observation. From what I understand of the law, the judge’s decision simply put a stay on the implementation of the law going into effect and does not overturn the measure as a whole. If after further review the circumstances in which the vote was taken where found to be just, the law would simply go into effect and that would be the end of it. At least until Walker and the eight republican senators are re-called and the law repealed. But if it is found that the legality of the tactics are found to be questionable the law would simply be thrown out and Walker and his crew can simply bring it back up for another vote (if they are still in office) and get it passed then.
The double standard, in recent months there have been several judge’s (13) that have deemed the health care law “unconstitutional” and of those 13, 12 are republican. Now I don’t remember anyone (on this blog anyway) screaming ACTIVIST JUDGE’S when they made their decision. Why is it when a judge makes a decision that you agree with they are deemed “patriotic” but when they make a decision you don’t agree with, they are “activists”?
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Paradigm big difference between the healthcare bill and and the bill passed in WI. Healthcare is unconstitutional and was passed by bribing several members of the Legislative branch. Healthcare should be on a state level not federal. Like in Mass. they have a state wide health care that is constitutional, the nation wide health care is not. Walker never had to bribe anyone to pass this bill, he tried to get the cowards to come back. And if the state chooses to have CBA’s or not is up to the state WHICH is Constitutional!
If people would read and understand the Constitution and not listen to a politician say what is constitutional or not this country woulod not be in the mess it is in now.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:35pmABC is a stupid moron. I just held a mirror up to his face, and that’s what he saw. He wasn’t surprised, that’s why his wife and children moved out.
Report Post »Soldiers_Son
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:47pm@ABC
“a “conservative” view would be to heed the warnings rather than listen to snake oil salesmen who have not expertise merely so you can sleep soundly and guiltfree”
That is not a conservative view. A conservative view would be to check the facts and verify the validity before jumping to conclusions. The progressive view would be to just tell the people to shut up and just accept it because you are not smart enough to know any better and we are here to take care of you. And as far as I can see, the global warming crowd would have everyone just shut up and do what they are told because it fits their agenda.
And as far as I have seen, a lot of these so called scientists you refer to in your peer reviewed journals have been discredited during the whole e-mail scandal. They were shown to omit people who didn’t tow the line on global warming from the journals, they de-funded the opposition by denying them grants, used falsified and skewed data to try and show global warming when none existed, made up facts and otherwise disregarded the whole scientific method. Like I said before I have not yet seen any data that shows that man has ever altered the global climate for better or worse. So, I chose not to listen to these peddlers of snake oil because they have yet to provide any evidence and instead push fear of a global meltdown as a reason to obey.
I agree there is climate change, and that there is such a thing as global warming and global cooling, I just don’t accept the idea that it is man made or that we can change it enough to cause these apocalyptic scenarios that people like Al Gore keep spewing.
And for you to call me a moron for not agreeing with your theory and providing an alternate theory that is just as valid and based in actual science and environmental studies is pretty petty of you. Argue your case all you want, but don’t resort to name calling. And until you can prove that Co2 is the cause of global warming it will remain a theory (and theory is not fact, it is only a best guess. Remember that.). And so far there is no proof that it is the cause, it is only an assumption based on it’s presence in greater quantities during a warming cycle. And presence does not equate to cause.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:15pmAbc,
Would that be the same experts that emails showed that they not only cherry picked data but also falsified data which in return produced the inaccurate and flawed analysis that people like Al Gore used like a snake oil salesman to dupe people like you???
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:38pmStupid preemptive text, my Iphone decided to change precedent to barrooms for some reason.
Report Post »Sparky101
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 1:20amABC is a coward that lets his buddy fight for him.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 1:29amabc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:33pm
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That entire post of yours was written like a proud Marxist comrade. The Central Committee will be watching you in the future. You will go far!
Who do you want to run for POTUS in 2012?
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hauschild
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 11:59amGod progressives are idiots.
This law actually “helps” everybody with a stake in the game.
Idiots.
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:05pmI posted that I figured a judge would step in by Friday to reverse the vote. I was wrong……it was two Friday’s.
Predictable.
Too may self-important “Judge Judy’s” in this country to allow the republic to work properly.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:07pmAnother Liberal who can’t abide by the democratic process. How about instead of getting in the way of the actual vote. She prosocute those who ran and hid….
Revere1
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:07pmThey don’t care about the law, they just think the judges should always step in to help out the Democrats. This is just like their response when Obamacare was ruled unconstitutional:
http://www.battlefield315.com/2011/02/why-obamacare-was-ruled.html
Dems view judges as a “failsafe” in case they can’t win through the legislative process.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:08pmWhile there is a 24 hour requirement, there is also a 2 hour ‘emergency’ notice (which the DA chose to overlook). I think the law will emerge intact.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:11pmThis Judge should removed from office her ruling was obviously a partisan one. And since inpartiality is required under law she should be removed.
Mannax
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:12pmDale for the win… you hit it on the head. The reaction after the passage proves that they believed that there would be danger if given a proper 24 hour notice so they used the 2 hour rule. The democrats could have gotten a helicopter and been back in time if they wanted to.
felina g
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:12pmIf a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too.
Report Post »— W. Somerset Maugham, 1874 – 1965
Warphead
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:15pmIt has nothing to do with “helping out everybody” it has everything to do with maintaining power, collecting dues and thus influencing elections. It has to stop.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:16pmYes progressives are idioys in the way they do things; the judge must be one as well, one of those bleeding hearted liberal radicals who sides with unions all the time.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:16pmThe offical brief as to the legal basis of the restraining order was: “It’s not fair” (sniffle, sniffle)
Report Post »TEIN
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:17pmHere is the continued belief from the Libby/Progressives that laws can be stopped, changed, or issued by judges…..
Report Post »wildjoker5
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:17pmSo it is lawful to run out of state to escape ones duties to uphold the constitution of their state, but it isn’t ok to bring a bill to the floor where they had been discussing for weeks about this particular issue to get passed while people are hiding out in another state?
Got it.
Report Post »chickenlittle
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:18pmMore than anything else in this country right now, “activist judges” legislating from the bench and stalling legally enacted laws are destroying what is left of our form of government.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:23pmOK….then lay off 25,000 Union Civil Lushes….I imagine that would create a REVIEW in the Comrades strategy….Costa Mesa Ca. just laid off HALF it’s working city workers so it could pay UNION RETIRED EMPLOYEES retirement and healthcare…..so paying MORE for LESS is the UNION/DEMOCRAT way ?????
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:23pmIt was a special session, the 24 hours “rule” does not apply. This is obvious and even the layman can easily grasp this and it doesn’t take a stay to determine. The judge is intentionally stalling. Stalling means that they, the Left, want time for something more. What, I wonder?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:24pmThis is about putting a halt to authoritarian tactics. A BIG win for the middle class.
thesource
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:26pmThis is about the law, if it was violated or not, nothing to do with liberals, jeez people are so brainwashed.
sleazyhippo
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:26pmThis is just Natural Due Process. Are you really thinking the Government and out Courts are “not legal?”
Report Post »IdsofMarch
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:30pmTime to start the Lay-Offs……or will the Judge stop those, too? Maybe the Judge should run the State.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:31pmWrong. States with collective bargaining rules have seen wages track those negotiated in the private sector perfectly, while the 11 states without collective bargaining have below-market wages. Funny. Conservatives talk about the tyranny of the government and the ills of a monopoly power all the time, but when it is negotiating in an unfair position against teachers and police officers, suddenly they do not mind that the result is a below-market wage. Seems kind of hypocritical of them. But we should know by now that conservatives’ only principle is their own ignorance and selfishness. They even embrace government over free market if it lets them demonize a group for political gain or keep a few more dollars in their own pockets…however unjust the cause of that savings. You people are unbelievable. And I challenge a single one of you to dispute the economic facts behind my assertion.
Also, the conservatives all over the place defended the GOP end-run in the WI legislature, while bright people like Eliot Spitzer on CNN questioned the legality. Glad to see the smart ones be vindicated yet again. Regardless of your view on the law, it ought to be passed in a legal way. Only partisan idiots would want a law passed in an illegal manner.
hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:32pmDale,
You’re partially right. I looked into this extensively because I live in Wisconsin and knew that the liberals would make this argument. What you citied is in regular sessions. In special session, as this was the only notice of vote needed is a posting on the bulletin as stated by Senate rule 93. So this attempt by the liberal progs in Wisconsin is errantly outrageous and this Judge is now only playing political activist despite the law being followed. I have all this on my computer at home and will post it when I get home from work.
NeoFan
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:32pmWell Wisconsin take a good look at Michigan and Detroit, That is your future.
The liberal Utopia was created in Detroit. That is what progressive policies lead to.
So glad I live in conservative state. It least for the time being.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:33pm@Mannax
Report Post »Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:12pm
Dale for the win… you hit it on the head. The reaction after the passage proves that they believed that there would be danger if given a proper 24 hour notice so they used the 2 hour rule. The democrats could have gotten a helicopter and been back in time if they wanted to.
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Dale for Wisconsin AG!
The Republicans had been trying to get them back for more than 24 hours anyway.
ishka4me
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:34pmi heard on sports radio that the nfl owners would not come to agreement because judge that would head arbitration is a wisconsin union friendly judge. The nfl would let the agreement expire in sept when a new judge would be assigned the case. any way of finding out if it is the same judge.?
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:36pmThey only needed 2 hours notice if “for good cause” such notice is “impossible or impractical”. Maybe the impending layoffs or protection of the senate members to be present could be made. Or they just do it again.
Report Post »Cobra Blue
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:38pmLike I have been saying for the past two years….“THE FIX IS IN” with this Administration. They have stacked the deck with the unions, law enforcement and the courts. The only thing that will stop this REGIME is a physical response when WE THE PEOPLE rise up. Until then, the blogs and talk radio personalities will continue to talk, talk, talk while the Regime continues to march, march, march. When will the people say enough? When it gets so PAINFUL and the people feel they have nothing to loose in fighting back. In the meantime, enjoy all the crap and the systematic overthrough of our Nation. My apologies to the Founding Fathers for not standing up for what they GAVE THEIR ALL FOR 235 years ago.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:42pmtifosa
“This is about putting a halt to authoritarian tactics.”
I know you have no interest in the truth. I’ll say however that the tactics were not authoritarian.
From Dictionary.com
“of or pertaining to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people. ”
This was not an authoritarian act as a) It was conducted in full legal accordance with the Wisconsin constitution, b) individual freedom was not the issue being voted on, and c) the representatives are constitutionally accountable to the people.
Furthermore, the Democrats were not forced out, they fled like cowards in order to prevent a constitutionally sound vote.
Please choose your words with more care towards accuracy and less emphasis on the propaganda handed down to you as boiler plate talking points.
“A BIG win for the middle class.”
Not at all. Unionized public sector workers make up, generally, ~5% of any given state’s working population. The middle class, by and large, is made up of the people being forced to pay for these lavish public union compensation plans.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:45pmHifi, actually, it is an open legal question whether Senate rules trump state law, which are in conflict on this issue. That is the reason the GOP sought legal advice. Now, the judge might rule the same way those legal experts did, but he may not. Either way, to say that he is “activist” is to ignore the obvious controversy in the law in this case. Of course, conservatives will continue to call the judge activist if he rules in a way that they do not like. So the very term activist judge is rather stupid.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:53pmPush for the prior bill, giving 24 hours notice, but this time instructing the police to apprehend whoever attempts to flee the state.
Report Post »towerguy
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:53pmPerhaps he will send out the layoff notices again. I wonder if that would jolt these people back into reality.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:53pmThe “Judge” is, more than likely, a Democrat who is doing as told by the OBAMA Administration. Even the COURTS are CROOKED now.
Report Post »Tony
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:54pmthere is no question that the Wisconsin Democrats are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the Public Employee’s union. When the union cries “jump”, Democrats ask “how high”.
Truth is, the SEIU and AFL-CIO union bosses own the very soul of our president and his administration. He sees nothing wrong with seizing property of his “enemies” and giving it to his friends.
It is sad that registered Democrats who do not belong to unions vote Democrat because they are voting against not only their best interests but also against the best interest of their children and grandchildren.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:55pmWow !!!!! I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I have been completely caught off guard. I never saw this coming. Whew like an unexpected punch in the gut I‘m still tryin’ to catch my breath after this. I really need some liberal insight into this one cause I obviously am a little too slow to keep up with all this maneuvering. And heart felt thank you to the liberals who have made clear the law in WI. I only thought I understood plain English. Not until I read your explanations did I see the error in my understanding. Well, once again set straight by those who are smarter than I am. Where would I be? Where would we be without there insight?
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:58pm@ ABC
The key phrase in your rant “keep a few more dollars (conservatives) in their own pockets”. I agree, and furthermore….I don’t apologize for feeling this way.
You bleeding-heart liberals will understand completely when the ideology you strive for ultimately destroys the benefits you think your going to gain.
Who are the unions going to get paid by when business people decide to close shop? Are the liberals going to force business owners to keep the doors open?
As a business owner, I will quit providing my services and shut my doors the second I’m threatened with a union forming.
Then what are you going to do, sue me for closing my own business?
The unions are cutting their own throats…..I say let them.
Report Post »ProgressiveLiberalMarine
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:59pm@THESOURCE
Exactly
AKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:05pmThe fight has just started people, small victory for the left with many more to come and we will win the war.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:05pmIs this an appointed judge or an elected judge? Either way, she is going to be out of a job when her term expires.
Report Post »J.C. McGlynn
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:09pmTo GWDobbs: The judge is a democrat and was ordered by the unions to make that ruling.
I would think that a county judge ruling is only good for that county and not the entire state.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:09pmWhat we have here is an activist liberal county judge (just look up her record) trying to determine if the State legislature violated it’s own rules, which it did not. The erroneous judge is confused about is the difference between regular session rules and special session rules. The Senate was definitely in special session as it could not be in regular session because of the fleebagger senators running to, and hiding out in Illinois.
Report Post »Cemoto78
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:18pmWalker should give a speech tonight saying due to the judges ruling we are trashing the law, laying off 1500 personnel IMMEDIATELY, and re-introducing the bill with the proper notice. When the dems flee the state again, post notice of emergency legislation, and pass it again. And the 1500 people who got laid off, SORRY, the progressives bit you.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:18pmLet me get this strait. A public employee (judge) gets to decide on the merits of a law change that effects public employees? Who is at the table for the other 98% of non union public workers to ensure they have their rights upheld? Why would they have any right to steal money from the tax paying private sector by electing the folks that sit across the table and hand out larger compensation packages in turn for reelection? This is called corrrrrrrruption.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:19pm@NEOFAN
You are soooo correct about Detroit and Michigan …
From a FORMER Michigan Resident!
Born, Raised, and now GONE!
Report Post »NoRoomForSocialismHere
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:21pmThe Liberals were told on camera that the 24 hour notice was for open meetings not closed as this was. If that is true, they are just stalling as we all know is part of their war game
Report Post »Non-sequitur
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:21pm“So it is lawful to run out of state to escape ones duties to uphold the constitution of their state”
Yes. Denying quorum is a solid (and lawful) part of the political system of the USA since before Lincoln (who denied quorum in a very dramatic manner, look it up).
“but it isn’t ok to bring a bill to the floor where they had been discussing for weeks about this particular issue to get passed while people are hiding out in another state?”
The way this was done was probably illegal, so a judge is looking into it. You describing it in this way is pretty dishonest, truth be told.
So your point is?
sissykatz
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:25pm.They gave approx. 2hr. notice but from what I understood in an emergency or I can’t remember the other word they used(I suffer from crs),But if this causes problems Walker should just go ahead and send out the 1500 lay-offs. Boy wouldn’t they just love that. I mean send them not just threaten to. The Republicans said they could do it within minutes if they felt it was warrented.They also said the Dems. could have been there in less than 2hrs, anyway by car. I don’t think they have a case because if Millions of dollars of damage was being done to the capitol and Lives were being threatened , Dems. abscent for 3wks. I think any of these would constitute an emergency let alone all three.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:25pmWhat about the 30 or so days of notice that I watched on my TV. Enough notice was given in order for every democrat to flee to another state, or the days of organization it took to bus in protesters from all the other states? They obviously were well aware of the intentions of the new elected officials to make some changes that the people had voted for? This sounds like Ray Nagen saying he did not know Katrina was coming?
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:27pmSenate rule 93 states that no notice need be given to vote on a bill in special session. News to liberals your attempt to stop this is not only foolish, but will result with more egg on your face.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:28pm‘We really need to fire all the politicians, and just let the judges make and enforce laws of our country. It seems every time a law is passed, there is a judge that will strike it down and then it will take forever for it go through the courts. Then it depends whether the judge is a liberal or not. It sure looks like another judge has been bought by the UNIONS.
Report Post »SavvyCowboy
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:28pmUnions suck *ss.
Report Post »Miguelito
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:30pmWI should recall this judge…she is a liberal activist..she can not legally do this..wake up people we use to be a nation of laws!
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:34pmI predict this also – it was the open meetings act that was violated – sorry about that!!! Can’t win all of them! http://wp.me/pYLB7-KJ
Report Post »USAMama
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:40pmMannAx and Dale~ you are absolutely right! I think this was a definate emergency, the Dems who fled put everyone in danger because the longer this thing dragged (and continues to drag on) the more hateful and violent it gets! This simply HAD to come to an end and be done, had he given 24 hrs notice things would have escalated drastically.
Report Post »Brushjumper
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:54pmJust like the failed president, when he does not like the laws he sues in court and if he looses he uses regulatory agencies and CZARS, and all else fails he just ignores the law, The Senate should reconvene an emergency and give 24 hour notice and vote again. The demorats are simply disgracefull and ignorant concerning what the MAJORITY of Americans in Wisconsin and America voted for in the fall elections.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:02pmAbc,
The only thing is Article IV in the state constitution allows for the senate to set forth session rules. That rule has been in implementation for many years before this.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:15pm@ HIFI…I’m sure your just mistaken. Just go back and try reading it again in light of the liberals previous posts and I am sure you will see where you went wrong. Thankful we have their skills to fall back on any time we get a little “crazy” and try to think for ourselves.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:16pmThe law has been TRANSFORMED, folks. Right now, transformation means the interpretation of current laws always favors the Tyrant. In addition it means he uses executive orders to bypass Congress, if necessary. Eventually, there will be an amended constitution.
To me the real eye-opener here is that the police in WI (and other states) are Obama pawns.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:19pmWalkwithme,
The rules in Special session, as this was, are different.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 2:25pmBad judge.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:00pm@ABC ~
“Only partisan idiots would want a law passed in an illegal manner.”
You must be talking about the Progressives in D.C., including Obama!
They’ve already said, “Who cares?” when it comes to constitutionality of a law.
Busted! (Or as somebody here says, “BOOM! LOSING!”)
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:03pmWell now, hasn’t the left given the right a huge opportunity here? I think this will be appealed, then to State Supreme Court, then onto Federal SC, and then they will strike down collective bargaining nationwide! Now wouldn;t that save the states some money, and an EPIC FAIL on the leftists crusade to take over our America! No baby, not gonna happen…
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:08pm@tifosa,
“This is about putting a halt to authoritarian tactics. A BIG win for the middle class.”
We are NOT a Democracy, but a representative Republic. DEMOCRACIES promote authoritarian tactics, NOT our Constitutional Republic.
Also, there’s no such thing as a “middle class” in the America that our Founders established in our Constitution, because we are all free to keep what we work for, including capital. Supporting one’s self or becoming rich, was simply a matter of making sound business decisions – the poor can become rich, and the rich can become poor; Nothing is supposed to prohibit either scenario but the individual and the free market.
True, there’s no safety net in a truly free market, but with the free market comes inherent opportunity, and as long as the government doesn’t regulate the free market beyond the limited powers given to it by the Constitution, no one who has been “taught how to fish” can expect to be poor for very long.
Unfortunately for America, the Progressives have been taking the freedoms from the free market in the form of over regulation and over taxation.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:13pmClimate Warming is psychological warfare.
Report Post »Wdawg
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:15pmThey should have listened to the guy that said: “This is against the law!”
Report Post »felina g
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:20pmJudge Napolitano…..paging !
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:27pmWonder how much they had to pay off this Judge to get her ruling? I looked deeply into her eyes and see a very liberal, hateful woman who would do anything to further her cause, which is power, money and? Some would sell their soul for a few coins like Judas.
Report Post »ScottR63
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:30pmNow we need a recall on the STUPID A** judge……….typical M.O………over turn the law when the law is against your opinoin. What cant be won with the popular vote……over turn it with liberal judge. It’s criminal.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:32pmBottom line is that this bill will ultimately pass, even if they have to pass it a second time. All the progressives can hope for is that they will get some concessions the second time around. The governor cannot allow any concessions for these power-hungry, greedy unions. Wisconsin needs to hold the line as an example for all the other states who are engaged in battle with unions.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:40pmRichard Trumpa just purchased the judge a lovely summer home in the Hamptons.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:44pmUnFREAKINGbelievable! Now if Tea Partiers just happened to storm the judge’s chambers, office, house, whatever, would they (or good constitutionalists) get the same treatment from the media and the police as the union thugs, college frat house party boys and bussed in high schooler’s did?
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:47pmThis judge and unions are committing suicide for the state of Wisconsin. When they run out of money, there will be no life support to go to. Forget about having to pay a minuscule amount out of their pockets for benefits, they won’t have jobs and they will be foraging through dumpsters for their next meal.
FOOLS!
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 3:52pmThe law was NOT violated. I don’t believe the judge did not know this. The senate was NOT required to give any warning as it was a special session. It is clearly stated in the law. This judge is a liberal activist.
Report Post »IAMMADDOG
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:00pmAlso, even though they were NOT required to give notice they did give them a 2 hour notice. More than enough time for them to get to the capital. So those of you who think Walker and co. violated the law….you would be wrong.
Report Post »stevirt
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:12pmABC: you say that 11 states don’t have collective bargaining and they have lower wages. Well I’d bet that those states are better off right now than the others. States can’t afford to pay what they are paying! It has to change – they are sinking the lifeboats for everybody else. A friend of mine has a son who works for our city office. He does an unskilled job, basically doing what anybody could be trained to do in a few weeks – he makes over $100,000 a year with full benefits!!! It’s unsustainable!
Report Post »Jules 59
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:25pmPerhaps we have another judge just looking to make a name for herself, this law was a boon to our State.
Report Post »WTH
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:27pmThey should hand out those 1500 lay off notices again until this is settled.
Judicial activism is always something we could do without.
Report Post »Jules 59
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:30pmTwo hours is more than sufficient notice if you are at the State capital where you are supposed to be instead of hiding in Illinois. These democrats are the ones who broke the law or the faith or whatever you want to call it. They are the ones at fault and should be charged with deserting their posts. Wonder how much this judge cost the Unions.
Report Post »Paradigmm
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:31pmI’d like to point out a double standard but first an observation. From what I understand of the law, the judge’s decision simply put a stay on the implementation of the law going into effect and does not overturn the measure as a whole. If after further review the circumstances in which the vote was taken where found to be just, the law would simply go into effect and that would be the end of it. At least until Walker and the eight republican senators are re-called and the law repealed. But if it is found that the legality of the tactics are found to be questionable the law would simply be thrown out and Walker and his crew can simply bring it back up for another vote (if they are still in office) and get it passed then.
The double standard, in recent months there have been several judge’s (13) that have deemed the health care law “unconstitutional” and of those 13, 12 are republican. Now I don’t remember anyone (on this blog anyway) screaming ACTIVIST JUDGE’S when they made their decision. Why is it when a judge makes a decision that you agree with they are deemed “patriotic” but when they make a decision you don’t agree with, they are “activists”?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:31pmHum…not too smart…must be because she is not a “Wise Latino Woman”!!!!
Heard Rush put this into perspective today…he said, “That‘s like saying that McDonalds should shut down all operations because an ol’ lady spilled some hot coffee on herself and she’s filed a law suite”….Great analogy!
Report Post »Progessives=Fail
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:39pmAKMIIKEUS
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 1:05pm
The fight has just started people, small victory for the left with many more to come and we will win the war.
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So, what happens when you win this war of yours? Free abortions for all and a bankrupt country that resembles the third world? Your kids will certainly thank you for it…Or maybe whoever brainwashed you didn’t go into what the actual end game is. You reap what you sow. Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:41pmheh heh heh . . . recall the bill, now we recall the Republicans
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:47pmThe “Judge” looks like Nathan Lane in DRAG … Sorry Nathan!
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 4:57pmI was angry about this, until I came to the realization(took several deep breaths) that, no matter WHAT Scott Walker and the republicans do, there will be a judge in Dane county that strikes it down. That being said, do not look for the repubs to re-pass another bill. Won’t matter. A judge will strike it down.
Report Post »The bright spot here is that the bill was never published. In Wisconsin, that means it never took effect. So,the ruling will be reversed. Also, as far as this “technicality” making the entire law invalid, that is just silly. Any lib that is cheering this, needs to increase the dosage of their meds as that is even further out there. Stay tuned good Blazers, this will be a FUN ride.
@closetedliberalmarine? you are not a real marine. Don’t even pretend.
TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:01pmThis judge’s picture is what I imagine Tifosa looking like……
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:09pmJust another bought and paid for union whore.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:38pmPARADIGMM,
You’re comparing apples to oranges. The difference in the two is that Wisconsins bill was passed legally and the constitutionality of it is not in question. Where as Obamacare is at the very least constitutionally questionable. Big difference so drop the straw man argument, you’ll lose again.
Report Post »abc
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 5:47pmStevirt, sadly that is not true. Those 11 states have budget problems that as a % of GDP are worse than the rest.
Report Post »RJO
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:01pmRumor has it….the “County” judge is liberal….shocking!! We are reaping and have been reaping what’s been sown – thanks to the baby-boomers of the 1960′s. The judiciary is a joke. Rule of law? This is what happens when good people do nothing…silence equals consent. Our freedoms, our country and our future is in the midst of a hostile takeover. The MAIN accomplices in this raw power grab are the LameStream media.
Pray.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:17pmTERMLIMITSNOW: Heh heh heh: my twin sis! But they could always tell us apart by the giant wart at the end of my nose :)
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 6:35pmLiberals way of winning the game, legislate from the bench…..
Report Post »Paradigmm
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:05pmHIFI74,
First, I don’t believe that the legality of how the bill was passed has been decided in a court of law as of yet so before we jump to conclusions why don’t we wait until the high court rules on it instead of trying it the court of public opinion.
Secondly, the point of my comment was and still is to emphasize the duality of the right when it comes to decisions made by a sitting judge. If they rule in your favor, their patriots and if they don’t they are activists. It’s a double standard that you conveniently avoided with your straw man diversion attempt. Stay on point and answer the question, why the hypocrisy?
Report Post »brliantedj
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:13pmOK I know 24hrs isn’t like 3-4 weeks or anything, so why is THIS an issue?
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:16pmProgressives are the biggest threat to America’s freedom. This judge should be recalled. She is evil.
Report Post »smartypoop
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:23pmThis judge is married to a collective barganing attorney in the state and is a progressive in her own right. She is just helping to forstall the inevitable to support the party agenda. She doest have the law on her side and thats why she said they could go ahead and redo the vote instead of appealing or waiting.
Report Post »Walker should get busy on the layoffs. If he knuckles under to this thuggery, I will be very disappointed, the unions will be emboldened and we will all suffer as union fever sweeps the country.
hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:35pmPARADIGMM
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 7:05pm
HIFI74,
First, I don’t believe that the legality of how the bill was passed has been decided in a court of law as of yet so before we jump to conclusions why don’t we wait until the high court rules on it instead of trying it the court of public opinion.
Secondly, the point of my comment was and still is to emphasize the duality of the right when it comes to decisions made by a sitting judge. If they rule in your favor, their patriots and if they don’t they are activists. It’s a double standard that you conveniently avoided with your straw man diversion attempt. Stay on point and answer the question, why the hypocrisy?
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This isnt trying it in the court of opinion, there are laws and precedent already on the books, they followed the guidelines already set before them so they followed the law. There is no ifs ands or buts about it, they legally passed it through BY LAW!
Second, you are trying to compare apples to oranges. It is two different sets of circumstances, again the idea that in Wisconsin they followed the laws and rules set before them to pass legislation, to ignore that and rule against it is political activism from the bench. The very core of Obamacare is under scrutiny because the law itself may or may not be (depending on who you ask) unconstitutional. Obamacare is potentially breaking the law by design, the Budget Repair Bill was passed in accordance with the laws set before them. Two completely different things all together, there is no double standard when it is two different things. To argue otherwise is foolish.
Report Post »Mee the People
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:37pmshe looks like a sex change man
Report Post »foobear
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:37pmI‘m just confused why they couldn’t “compel a quorum” as they can at the federal level. Or does Wisc not have that ability?
Report Post »drbage
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:44pmThis is the same judge who ruled that the days that the teachers were “sick” to attend the demos in Madison did NOT constitute a work stoppage so she was unable to force them to go back to work.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 8:48pmHate to rain on your parade there ABC, but of the 10 states facing the worst debt of 2010, only 3 are right to work states. Arizona and Nevada got creamed in the housing crisis, and this caused significant problems for the state incomes. Not to mention Obama knocking Nevada, which is primarily Unions anyways, as we know from the elections.
Why is it you liberals can’t even one single time agree with a single aspect of the right.. No joke. I go on huffing post at times and I read people, and I my self can agree with some things in the middle. You ABC, Relentlessly argue some over articulated point, through which you often speak in circles and never come up on the right side. DO you read a lot of comic books ?? Just curious .. WOndering if you don’t think of yourself as the progressive avenger or something. Defender of all that is Progressive ..
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 9:36pmOhhh Walkwithme, you sad misinformed troglodyte. Seeing as you care not to do your own homework I decided I’ll do it for you. See by the Wisconsin Constitution as I have stated before the Republican legislatures were well within the law. To show that I’ll quote directly form the Constitution of Wisconsin so with no further adieu I present you…….
Article IV, §1 – ANNOT.
The court will invalidate legislation only for constitutional violations. State ex rel. La Follette v. Stitt, 114 Wis. 2d 358, 338 N.W.2d 684 (1983).
Article IV, §8
Rules; contempts; expulsion. Section 8. Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two-thirds of all the members elected, expel a member; but no member shall be expelled a second time for the same cause.
Article IV, §8 – ANNOT.
Courts have no jurisdiction to review legislative rules of proceeding, which are those rules having “to do with the process the legislature uses to propose or pass legislation or how it determines the qualifications of its members.” Milwaukee Journal Sentinel v. DOA, 2009 WI 79, 319 Wis. 2d 439, 768 N.W.2d 700, 07-1160.
SENATE RULE 93. Special, extended or extraordinary sessions. Unless otherwise
provided by the senate for a specific special, extended or extraordinary session, the
rules of the senate adopted for the regular session shall, with the following modifications, apply to each special session called by the governor and to each extended or extraordinary session called by the senate and assembly organization committees or
called by a joint resolution approved by both houses:
(1) No senate bill, senate joint resolution or senate resolution shall be considered unless
it is germane to the subjects enumerated by the governor in the special session proclamation and is recommended for introduction by the committee on senate organization
or the joint committee on employment relations.
(2) No notice of hearing before a committee shall be required other than posting on the
legislative bulletin board, and no bulletin of committee hearings shall be published.
Now seeing that they were in SPECIAL session and not regular session as you keep trying to pose, they were well within the law! That is confirmed by the executive order issued by Gov. Walker that states…..
NOW THEREFORE, I, Scott Walker, Governor of the State of Wisconsin, pursuant to Article IV, Section 11, and Article V, Section 4 of the Wisconsin Constitution, do hereby require the convening of a special session of the Legislature at the Capitol in Madison beginning at 10:00 a.m. on January 4, 2011,
So for those of you who care to continue to argue otherwise please go back and re-read this to understand the depth of your ignorance to the FACTS.
Walkwithme, just come on back if you care to be made a fool YET again!
Report Post »4PERCENTER
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 9:42pmhauschild
You are sooooooo right! Let’s see, 5% plus to retirement and 12% plus to benefits – YOUR retirement and YOUR benefits unionestas! The Governor is asking you to SAVE MORE OF YOUR OWN MONEY!!!! You are not paying the state to reduce the deficit, you are paying yourself a small percent of YOUR OWN WAY, to help roll back the hot checks you have helped write since the state went in the RED! Spit in the face of Harley Davidson. Spit in the face of Mercury Marine. Shout to the world that you are too weak, spoiled and selfish to ‘spread any of your wealth around‘, as the god of the welfare-riders, B. Hussein O., has decreed. The unionestas have unequivocally demonstrated they flunked math. They don’t know right from wrong. They don’t know up from down. They state by their actions that they need the union thugs to run their lives because they are not smart enough to do it themselves. Get off the milk and learn to eat meat obamanestas!
Report Post »Thats A rap
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 10:02pmWe are now entering a re-founding revolution. Our choice of weapon is the freedom of us speakin. We choose to fight in the arena OF THOUGHT and our founders had superior. But now in OUR house they all snub the constitution. Did they swear to us to GOD or some sort of alien. If to GOD what a shame but one day they‘ll meet with him and if to us then there LIARS and it’s time for us to replace all them. OUR CONSTITUTION our BILL OF RIGHTS and no interpretation that‘s how we’ll finish this re-founding revolution. So now it’s time for the 28th amendment “No authority can tax a SOVERIGN STATE CITIZEN” It’s also time for OUR state representatives to come back home and start representing them. After that we’ll be headed towards a different place, a place OUR founders intended for the human race. So much HOPE so much CHANGE and new innovation. WE pray to GOD for this re-founding revolution. Hey U.N. we’re sorry for all the confusion, but those treaties that we signed are against OUR CONSTITUION. So what were saying is that it’s time for us to hit the road and that building in New York will be sub-divided into condos… So much HOPE so much CHANGE and new innovation WE pray to GOD for this re-founding REVOLUTION. Rise Up People!!!!!!
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 10:26pmWhat’s stopping them from reconvening the committee with notice and passing the …. bill?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 10:48pmMight not be that easy to “just pass it.” Now that they’ve read it, there‘s stuff in it that even some R’s don’t like (ie. eliminating mandatory recycling)
Report Post »chickenbig
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 11:13pmNext focus should be removing this piece of $^&* Judge. Once again these idiots use legal wrangling to attempt to make void the peoples voice.
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 11:21pmYawn…..same old same old….typical liberal MO. If you can’t scream them out or tantrum them out or boycott them out, then throw some tacks in the road and flatten the tires and slow them down. Whatever. There are still 4 million tax payers in this state that would gladly go to the polls again and vote you out….bring it on stinky hippies.
Report Post »On a side note…..my Lord are progressive women fugly or what???
HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 11:36pmIt is my understanding (and that of the three bodies that reviewed it before it was voted on) that when you are in a special session….which they were, no notice is needed except a posting on the bulletin board….they did that AND sent the email notification as a courtesy. She’s stalling and nothing more……notice, she didn’t rule….she just hampered it’s publication until she could review (aka I’m a slow reader) it and rue on it. Victory? I think not. Tall tactic in typical liberal fashion….you betcha! Don‘t forget we just got POTUS approval to ignore all the laws we feel aren’t proper…..I for one will start with taxes….
Report Post »*************************
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 12:55amProgressive (communist) Liberal judges are the enemy of America — it is LONG PAST TIME to start impeaching them and kicking them off their benches … with charges of treason pending.
sheriff BART: “Need any help?”
Report Post »town drunk JIM: “Oh … all I can get.”
-Blazing Saddles
thepatriotdave
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 1:26amtifosa
Posted on March 18, 2011 at 12:24pm
This is about putting a halt to authoritarian tactics. A BIG win for the middle class.
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You are one funny dude! Normally your humor is more subtle but it seems as if you are evolving. Congrats, you may have a future in stand-up after all.
Who do you want to run for POTUS in 2012?
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No1YaKnow
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 4:32amAnd yet, no one thinks to RECALL the fleeing Democrats who subverted the process and flagrantly violated the law. Every one of the senators who fled are in violation of the constitution–yet, the Senate violated some open meeting law? Pffffft.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 8:50amah another lib betch….
Report Post »aug282010
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 9:08amIs there a Conservative judge who can override her decision?
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:37amAnother leftist, skank, democrat misapplying a law
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 10:40amWhat would help would be to get Woody Harrelson’s dad out of prison, or did he pass.
Report Post »Smith523
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 12:09pmOf course….now the questions is why? I bet an ethics committee will find that she has some financial tie to the union, or husband.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on March 19, 2011 at 3:08pmTHEPATRIOTDAVE: I’d love to see them ALL primary: Bachmann, Barbour, Cain, Christie, Daniels, DeMint, Gingrich, Huckabee, Huntsman, Palin, Paul, Pawlenty, Pence, Romney, Ryan, Santorum. I’ll stock up on popcorn.There are some of those that just have no chance, imo~period. I guess at this point I’d think Huntsman may come off looking like the adult in the room.
Report Post »BigSky
Posted on March 20, 2011 at 4:07amBesides, she’s a lowly county judge. She so low on the judicial totem pole, she should be mocked and laughed at.
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