Judge’s Daughter Speaks Out on Releasing Violent Beating Video: ‘I Finally Snapped’
- Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:02am by
Billy Hallowell
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The story about a Texas judge who was secretly taped beating his daughter has captivated America.
Perhaps the intrigue is sparked by the disturbing imagery seen in the graphic clip or maybe it‘s the fact that the man’s own daughter — the subject of the beatings — released the footage. Potentially both. Either way, the story is an attention-grabber.
On Thursday night, CNN’s Anderson Cooper sat down with Hillary Adams, the daughter of Judge William Adams and the young girl who filmed the horrific incident. During the interview, Hillary explained that, as a teenager, her father’s beatings had increased in their fervency. So, she decided to setup a camera to capture his full-blown anger. You can watch the original video here.
Hillary, who has been holding onto the tape for years, said that she knew she needed to document the incident. In describing why she is releasing the tape now after holding onto it for seven years, she says, “I finally snapped.” She continued:
“I just wanted to put it out there for my dad to see it and maybe a few other people to maybe help us reconcile and see that this is wrong.”
Watch her discuss these issues:
Additionally, she addressed her father’s accusation (presented in a statement that Cooper read to the young woman) that she released the tape as revenge after he decided to cut her off financially.
Below, watch Hillary admit to “spinning her wheels” by working retail, though she denies her father’s allegation that he has been the primary source supporting her:
Mediaite has more about the statement that was released by Hillary’s father:
Cooper continued reading the statement, which included an accusation that Hillary is exploiting her cerebral palsy to gain sympathy with the media. “Wow,” she responded. “That’s incredible. Did you know that he’s always denied that I even had a problem? This is the first time he’s ever written that I had something.”
Here’s a portion of the statement:
In speaking about the video earlier this week, Judge Adams has said that the situation “looks worse than it is” and he doesn’t expect to be disciplined. “In my mind, I haven’t done anything wrong other than discipline my child after she was caught stealing,” Adams said. “And I did lose my temper, but I’ve since apologized.” See him speak about these issues here.
At this point, due to the statute of limitations running out, no criminal charges will be filed against the judge.
(H/T: Mediaite)
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Comments (564)
hillbillyinny
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:47amHave you guys READ this article? ALL of it?
The beating was wrong–discipline and be consistent with a young child and it will carry through into teenage years and if it doesn’t, deal with it, even to bringing in the law.
However, reading this article, it sounds like a case of another VERY BRIGHT, VERY WISE, SPOILED BRAT OF A CHILD! Father paid for school, bought her a Mercedes, she chose to live with him when parent split, etc.! According to the article, she was involved in CRIMINAL activities, still doesn’t justified beating, but does justify discipline or turning her over to authorities. Straighten things out when she is young, and keep her straight through her life.
He was wrong, but she is a sneaky, less than adult-acting adult!
Report Post »twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:56amDid you know that men who beat their families try to cover it up/apologize by buying them things? This is the way that they get a way with it. He get’s to beat the living hell of them them as long as he spoils them in other areas. So all that everyone sees is the guy that is “just tyring to give to his kids” and then the darkenss starts when he gets home. So little you know about how abusers/co-dependant spouses, and abused children function.
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:08am@ twin-minerva
Yes, I understand what you have pointed out, however, my point was the entire disipline-responsibility relationship–very sick in this family. He was wrong, she is a jerk! And I agree with the person who wrote that this would be an ideal family to read Glenn’s SNOW ANGEL, maybe out loud together while in counseling!
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:50amIn the video of the beating, I thought she had downloaded a game on the family PC. Thats agaist the law? must have been one heck of a game. Im not going to watch it again, someone else can confirm it.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:54am[twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:56am
Did you know that men who beat their families try to cover it up/apologize by buying them things? This is the way that they get a way with it. He get’s to beat the living hell of them them as long as he spoils them in other areas.]
Yours is an interesting theory, but overly simplistic. Especially since the majority of dads that never beat their kids are prone to buy things for and do things for their own kids. Your assumption is that the only reason this particular dad would give his kids anything is because he punished them too severely. Sorry, but that is a very poor assumption on your part.
Now, did this dad go overboard? Obviously. But, how much real love and concern did he still have? We can never really know. Your assumption that he only took care of her because he was guilty is rather lame when it comes right down to it. Especially considering the number of good dads that end up doing too much for their kids.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:57amNo, “Commonsense”, it was theft and it was a pattern of behavior. See, the problem is you didn’t think. You saw something emotionally charged and your brain immediately shifted into reverse.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:10amI got the impression it was not a “free” game she downloaded.
Here’s what I think:
1) This lady had no intention of “helping” her father when she released this video.
Report Post »2) The discipline in the video was over the top but I think anyone who’s ever been witness to a real beating (or witnessed the results) is a little…. miffed at people using that term to describe this.
Derp Deplume
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:10am@Twin.Minerva
“So little you know about how abusers/co-dependant spouses, and abused children function.”
You’re an idiot. Get help. This “child” used blackmail for 7 years. And when he wouldn’t support her so she could drop out of college and work part time at a video store and STILL DRIVE A MERCEDES AROUND she said “you’ll live to regret that“ and went on the ”oh woe is me” trail.
Was what he did wrong? Sure. Is blackmail acceptable retaliation? NO.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:13amI don’t agree with what he did, and now I don’t agree with what she did.
She waited 7 years until he took away her car and cell phone to air the video?
This is about the car and the cell phone more than it is about the beating.
It’s sad, down the road she will regret this as much as her regrets what he did to her.
Report Post »It’s sounds to me like this whole family is in need of some real help.
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:16amOk I went back and watched it again. It seems you are right, it was an game that was downloaded with out permission. I now change my mind. This man was in total controll of his emotions. .Thanks for the education.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:20am[c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:16am
Ok I went back and watched it again. It seems you are right, it was an game that was downloaded with out permission. I now change my mind. This man was in total controll of his emotions. .Thanks for the education.]
Nobody claimed he was in his right or in control, dimwitted troll.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:23amIf there were tapes for every action you ever did that was morally, ehtically, and criminally wrong from upteen years ago, do you believe that you should be held accountable for that. No one is without sin. But people commenting here act like this guy should be boiled in oil post haste. He did this 7 years ago, was filmed unbeknowst to him and now that film of his past sin is being used against him to destroy his life. Is that fair? I don’t think so. Its bad enough that our children today who by and large carry the VICTIM CARD around with them even though they are not victims. Pull that victim card out when it fits their need. Even if you’ve apologized for it after it happened, they never let you forget that you were wrong or worse yet disappointed them even in the slightest way. What she is doing now is morally wrong because she has not forgiven her father and he has said atleast that he apologized for this behaviour. She may have some bruises at the time, which healed, she may even have some emotional pain (baggage) she carries around..no doubt about that. Now she weilds the belt of a different kind and has exposed her father to the entire world for his past regretful lack of self control. Thanks a lot kid.
Report Post »JustAGuy
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:30am@Commonsense, try thinking this through. Maybe she downloaded Doom? Maybe she was illegally downloading games? Maybe he‘s told her over and over to stop illegally downloading games ESPECIALLY since he’s in the legal profession. Just think about this headline, “Judge sits on bench while daughter steals software at home”. There’s not enough info to be so smug about your conclusion.
My take: Clearly the father looks out-of-control. But I‘m suspicious of the daughter’s motives for releasing this at this time.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:33am@c0mm0nsense
*sigh*
I called you out on a single point, and you then you took off into la-la land. See? A Progressive gets emotionally charged and they simply stop thinking. This is especially true if they feel angry or guilty, then whatever the criticism is gets blown out of proportion and suddenly I’m attacking everything it means to be you, right? Or I’m making excuses for the father.
“I’m upset that I was wrong about something, so instead of owning up to my error, I’ll deflect and make YOU look bad on an unrelated topic.” Progressives are like teenagers, regardless of how old they get. I know plenty.
Report Post »enduro
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:38amof course he gave her things to keep the leverage and munipulate. This man is a freakin control freak plain and simple. Who the hell would want him to judge if they knew the monster behind the mask. Justice will be served. I agree kids can be spanked but this man is crazy and went overboad. Now he will pay the price.
Report Post »Unstable Phenomenon
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:42amHillBilly, I agree with you. To start off she is lying, if anyone here knows anything about interviewing, she is continuously looking down and to the left, which means she is looking for things to say…and to make it sound genuine, as compared to looking up to the right…which mean she’s drawing from her memory. I do agree he went to far, but she was saying she wants this to turn to a positive thing, and she’s lying there too, just check out her facebook page, she’s very vindictive.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:45amSomeday she’ll thank her dad for all the lashings, humiliation, pain, embarrassment, belittlement and profanity he subjected her and her mother to while growing up. She‘ll realize that’s the best way for a real man to raise a daughter and treat a wife. And when she has children, she do the same to them, especially since she’ll probably marry a man who treats her the way her dad treated her mother.
Report Post »welaney
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:46amI am simply amazed at the way people are saying that the whipping he gave that brat was abusive. The reason are sciety has gone to hell is because of lack of dicipline. When I was a child my dad used awater hose soaked in hot water about 3 feetn long. It only took about 1 or 2 of them a year to keep me straightened out. I haven’t had to whip my boys in a while, but they have the fear that I will and that keeps them straight. God help us, we need to get back to parents raising their kids.
Report Post »Shiroi Raion
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:50amSounds like all three were just rotten. They a Liberal family?
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:58am[jzs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:45am
Someday she’ll thank her dad for all the lashings, humiliation, pain, embarrassment, belittlement and profanity he subjected her and her mother to while growing up.]
Someday you will stop being such a nitwitted troll, hopefully, well, maybe not.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:07pmI’m taking bets that she did it on purpose…sounds like a wild child to me. And that comes from the article…she is apparently manipulative…and the parents got out of control but she made certain that they all stayed within camera shot. Calculating.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:12pmjzs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:45am
Someday she’ll thank her dad for all the lashings, humiliation, pain, embarrassment, belittlement and profanity he subjected her and her mother to while growing up. She‘ll realize that’s the best way for a real man to raise a daughter and treat a wife. And when she has children, she do the same to them, especially since she’ll probably marry a man who treats her the way her dad treated her mother.
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Is that before or after a book and a movie deal?
Report Post »another pucker
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:33pm@twin minerva
Report Post »I know first hand about abusers. I also know about manipulative kids who will cry at the drop of a hat to make their parents feel guilty so they’ll get what they want. It seems to me both were wrong but I never once heard this girl truly scream or cry. I KNOW the difference! I also know what it is to act like your being hurt for affect and it doesn’t look genuine! This girl was looking for something to hang over his head when she didn’t get what she wanted and he gave it to her. How did she know it would happen again? Maybe because she was doing something that had severe legal consequences that she had been told to absolutely stop doing! Obviously it wasn’t bad enough before to stop her from doing again.
fordman1560
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:52pmFrom her actions. I do not think it worked…
Report Post »Maybe he should have beat her AZz a few more times.. then maybe she would have respected her Father!!
The news is full of spoiled bratts like her!!!
Ruler4You
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:57pmLet this be a lesson; sooner or later, someone, with a weapon (WMD) will use it and claim: ” I just snapped.”
Report Post »What population of people seems to have a problem controlling their rage? okay, okay, which one doesn’t, might be an easier question to answer. Especially, if you are American. But with the tidal waves of testosterone laden machismo sweeping deep into civilian populations and mixing with pseudo power structures of local militia and military the exposure of unscreened access to weapons systems of extreme danger to non combatants has never been higher. A lunatic, some where, is lurking.
4XGrace
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:10pmHe was punishing a disobedient child who lived in his house. If she didn’t like it and wanted to continue to be disobedient she should have left the house and earned her own way in the world. What is she trying to do now? Black mail? Probably she couldn‘t get anymore money from him so she’s roasting him. That child deserves nothing more from her father and he should be left alone to carry on. The world doesn’t belong in that house. It is his home, his rules and his way. He will have to answer to God for all that he has done. She will have to answer for herself and she can’t blame her father for what she is now or has done in the past – everything that she did was in accordance with her own rebellious, fallen and sinful nature.
Report Post »shelblynn
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:15pmNumber one – beating a teenager will not solve the problem – if she stole a more constructive form of punishment is key. teens are “brain damaged” to begin with their brains are not fully developed until their early to mid twenties. That is why teens do stupid things and dont think of the conseqences, because they cannot process it and the need for seeking risky behavior is high. beatings do not help this in fact it makes behavior worse. True she might be a spolied brat but who caused that to happen? She would do something wrong get beat but still gets nice things. Now she is a semi-adult he can’t beat so he takes the money away. Seems like he should have done that when she was a teen to learn not only about consequnces but also about appreciating the things you have.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:17pm@JZS
“And when she has children, she do the same to them”
That is her CHOICE to make… But you are probably right… She will do the same and then blame what her father did to her as the cause instead of taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for her actions…
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:23pmIt’s pretty disgusting that anyone would defend this man. If this video showed him doing this to his wife instead (or anyone who isn’t his child), would you be defending it then?
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:36pmJaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:57am
“No, “Commonsense”, it was theft and it was a pattern of behavior. See, the problem is you didn’t think. You saw something emotionally charged and your brain immediately shifted into reverse.”
You’re a fine one to accuse someone of not thinking. Besides arriving at a dopey conclusion the rest of what you write…as it often is….is nonsese.
You’re probably defending this abuser, because you’ve went berserk on your own children. How about little animals?
Did you stomp and beat them, too?
How about facing someone who is not a defenseless little animal or a child?
There’s no doubt you would even try it, because you know you would be trounced.
Animal and child abusers like you need a long stay in the prison where you can be the object of abuse for awhile to see what it feels like.
Report Post »John39
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:40pmIf you beat your daughter, how do you keep her from marrying an abusive man?
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:52pm@ DRFROST- I agree with you 100% , this was a over the top spanking. When you get beat it is exactly that a beating.. I have lived through it when I was only 9 years old. Wish I had a camera back then to show the web what a beating really looks like. She was lucky to just get spanked by a belt.. She seems to be doing just fine now.
Report Post »jonrod
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:01pmSneaky, yeah that is so. But the reason she releaced the vidio is probably she triedto use it to blackmail her father into giving her money or something, and whaen he refused she released it in an act of retribution and in an attempt to redicule her father whom she probably hates.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:18pm@robert
Hi, Robert.
Feel free to see my response to your buddy a few comments up. He tried the same manuever you just did, where he took my specific response to her behavior and used it to suggest I was justifying her father’s behavior.
It’s funny watching Progressives try the old tactic of taking something I say and tying it to something completely unrelated. Great try, though. You did your best to smear me based on…nothing.
Please, douche in private from now on. I don’t want to see it.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:19pmc0mm0nsense
People need 2 computers.
A safe computer to pay bills & look at bank accounts & such.
The need a another computer to surf the internet or whatever. The two should never meet.
My thoughts on the matter.
She was a willful child. I think that corporal punishment is a very good thing. But she wasn’t in the age range. I think the age range is 4 to 6 years. After that the window is closed. Just saying
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:27pmI’m with you, Hillbilly. “I just snapped”…? After 7 YEARS….? Sorry, don’t buy it. I also think she sounds spoiled and didn’t get something she wanted, and this is her way of taking revenge. If he was so abusive (not denying he wasn’t), she had the perfect opportunity to get away after the divorce. She remained with him, I would bet, because he made more money than mom. Someone give her directions to OWS, will ya? She can drive her Mercedes to the party.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:37pmWelaney – nice. Fear is a great motivator but really the lazy or stupid persons method of coercing good behaviour. Your kids need to learn right and wrong, not out of fear but because you taught them properly. I feel sorry for you for the way your parents treated you and for your kids for having to endure your, unfortunately, taught behaviour. I hope they break the chain, but from the way you present yourself I suspect another generation is going to have to learn to behave or take a frozen hose. Too bad parenting is not something you have to earn.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:37pmAll of this BS about the daughter’s character is a snow job. There is no doubt that she was not raised right by this father so I m sure she has some problems. A father beating a 16 year with a belt IS the problem. It is not possible for me to understand any valid reason for this kind of “discipline” by an angry father. Knowing that the father is a sitting judge is another big problem. Just think… any of us could be standing in front of this creep judge someday. We can’t wake up one day after years of neglect and decide to start to discipline our children harshly with a belt.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:44pmSounds to me that her “snapping” was a lot like her dad’s confession that he “lost his temper.” I guess it can happen to anyone. Shrug.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:47pm@ Jaycen Wow! I was asking a question. If anyone could confirm on the video that the beating was about downloading a game? Because I did not want to watch it again.
Report Post »This is how you answerd the ?
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:57am
“No, “Commonsense”, it was theft and it was a pattern of behavior. See, the problem is you didn’t think. You saw something emotionally charged and your brain immediately shifted into reverse.”
No wear in the video did I hear about anthing against the law. I know in the article this was stated. But just because someone types it do not make it true. I was not emotional, so I made a joke about the judge not having his emotions undercotrol. Sorry for the misunderstanding and hope we can be freinds.
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:50pmWalkabout
Report Post »agreed
jb.kibs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:56pmi’m sure she “just” had enough 7 years later… it was probably the fact that her dad cut her off, because she’s a lazy little tramp. so now she has to “get him back” or, better yet, Blackmail him.
if it wasn’t a problem when you were 17, and you had video evidence, why is it now all of a sudden a problem?
Report Post »dusitnmay
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:03pmI agree, very nice comment, Totally correct.
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:14pmJaycen
You got it pegged right when it comes to misdirection by progressives. Talk about making allegations without any proof or reason besides smear…
“Animal and child abusers like you need a long stay in the prison where you can be the object of abuse for awhile to see what it feels like”
Wow!! Is this guy watching you?? Better close your blinds at night….(sarcasm)
As for the daughter, she was wrong to steal…plain and simple. Dad over reacted.
Report Post »jorskippy
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:15pmThe only reason this affair ever came to light is her father threatened (and we don’t know why) to cut off her allowance and take away her car that he had purchased. There is no telling what the real truth of the story is.
Report Post »Peachy Keen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:15pmWhat a shame no one sees this as it is. She has stated in an interview “I knew it was going to escalate so I set up the camera.” She knew she was going to goad him on so he would spank her and she knew she was going to record it to blackmail him with the video at some point in time. She is a spoiled brat and should have been whipped more often. I was beaten several times with a belt and I guarantee you it make an impression on me to mind my words and manners. Too many kids don‘t have parents who love them enough to discipline them when they don’t listen to the parents. This girl is rotten through and through and her father is having to “face the music” because of her disrespect and hatefulness. SHAME ON HER!!!!!
Report Post »Justathinkin
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:15pmFor those claiming that he did not whip her good enough to get respect from her, I ask you this: How can you evoke real respect through violence? When has this worked in the course of human events? Most of the time, it leads to rebellion and bitterness, which we are seeing on both sides of this issue.
For those claiming that this is because we are no longer a God-fearing nation, I ask you this: Where did Jesus beat people into loving him? Where does it say that we need to hit people in order to teach them? There is a time and a place for spanking kids, but if you need to use something other than your hand, you’re doing it wrong or you need to figure out another way to teach your kids. Belts and other tools for spanking scar, even when they don’t break the skin, they scar. Scarring is not a good way to teach kids how to live.
This girl most definitely has some issues herself. She admits that she had some nice stuff and that it wasn’t good enough for her. That is obviously part of the problem. But, I have state that she waited until the statute of limitation was up before releasing the tape. That should say something about the issue. And after reading his released statement,I have to say that this whole family is so dysfunctional and destructive. They are all broken and need some serious help. It doesn’t look like that will happen though and that is the saddest part. We should all be praying for this family, I know I will be.
Report Post »jaswalt
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:23pmYou people keep atacking JZS for the comments on how the girl will thank her dad– Do you not recognize sarcasm when you see it? I don’t care what the did short of drowing her little sister in the toilet, there is no justification for this type of reaction by the father. And yes, I do believe parents need to take a more “hands on” approach to discipline, so don‘t bother tyring to suggest that I’m soft in that area. Discipline you children early, often, and with a calm, clear mind. This guy didn’t. And yes, she should have come out long ago with this tape rather than waiting until the dad cut her off.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:24pmKMichaels and his drive-by trolling and ad hominem attacks proves who’s the troll.
All he can do is say “he’s nutty“ and ”those Ron Paul supporters”.
Weak, pathetic little troglodyte. He can’t even recognize sarcasm. I didn’t use any sarcasm.
Spare the strap, spoil the sap. Suffice to say my children are WELL behaved and disciplined. And I don’t beat them.
Report Post »Lindarm
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:24pmbastard should be lashed himself. I know what she went through. NO KID or any other human being should be subjected to this. He also mentally and emotionally abused her .
He created what she is. He’s no one to blame but himself.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:30pm[jaswalt
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:23pm
You people keep atacking JZS for the comments on how the girl will thank her dad– Do you not recognize sarcasm when you see it?]
Actually, we understand that JZS was using sarcasm. The point is that he is a known liberal troll, and was aiming his sarcasm as the wrong crowd. Your points regarding parenting are still valid, even though you are defending the wrong guy (JZS) in this case.
Report Post »charleyrocks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:42pmThe judge lost his cool , what did he achieve strapping her in the leg arm side etc. It was wrong plain and simple, whether she held on to that tape or not for as long as she did does not matter I am glad she did to show the world judges are just men, and they can act stupid. Sometimes people who are molested wait for years until they are finished figuring out the whys before they report or tell another living soul.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:49pmchuck you rock
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:00pmJaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:18pm
@robert
“Feel free to see my response to your buddy a few comments up.”
Why? Can’t offer a sensible rebuttal, can you?
You know, you’re one of the few people on here who are unable to offer logical rebuttal to anyone you disagree with. Instead you offer some catty remark like a limp-wristed effeminate who is having a bad hair day.
You offer no response, because you have neither the ability nor intelligence to come up with one. Of course, because your position doesn’t merit one is an issue also.
You instead offer one line girlish remarks which are illogical, unsound and belong on a grade school or high school forum.
You’re out of your league here, little man. You belong in a teenage chat room.
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:12pmJaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:33am
@c0mm0nsense
*sigh*
Robert: See, didn’t I point out your girlish traits? You’re sighing like a teenage girl now, eh?
Jaycen to Commonsense: “I called you out on a single point, and you then you took off into la-la land. See? ”
Robert: He DID NOT take off into LaLa land. He offerred a sensible rebuttal to your support of child abuse. It was you who had no logical response. In fact it’s hard to determine what you wanted to say, because you express yourself so poorly.
You have some idea that you cut quite a figure here in spite of the fact that your ineptitude and girlish complaints are quite evident for everyone to see.
You’re like an abusive mother who loves to inflict pain and suffering on children, and can’t understand why there are others who call you out on it.
You’re an abuser who should come face to face with someone other than defenseless little children and innocent little animals, so you’ll know firsthand what pain and suffering is. You should be ashamed of yourself and your criminal actions.
Report Post »TPartyXpress
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:27pmYeah, blame the victim. Right!
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:30pm[V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:24pm
Spare the strap, spoil the sap. Suffice to say my children are WELL behaved and disciplined. And I don’t beat them.]
So you encourage others to beat their kids but don’t beat your own. Well, you are just so, um, confused.
BTW, I called you nutty because you sound so nutty. What else should I do? I mean, you really sound like an extremist nutjob. So pardon me for being blunt, nutcase.
BTW, THIS JUST IN, V-Mace is still nutty.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:32pmThe judge said “You put it back on after I instructed you not to.“ The daughter says ”Yes”. The father sends the child to retrieve the belt she is about to get disciplined with for insubordination. Case closed.
Same thing happened to me when I was a child, but we had to go fetch that green branch and strip the leaves so you can get your butt tanned. Discipline works. I’m a much better person for it.
I THANK my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc., for whooping my butt. And you wonder why kids are out-of-control these days.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:36pmRobert, you are an arse.
Report Post »Bet you hear that all the time.
Seriously, do you liberals have
anything other than your unfounded
moronic claims?
kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:41pm[TPartyXpress
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:27pm
Yeah, blame the victim. Right!]
I always find the most simplistic shallow thought process behind people that figure that a person is either all victim or all criminal, especially when reality teaches us that most people are a little bit of both.
Case in point, female, drunk, walking down the middle of a road, at 3am, in a very bad neighborhood, get’s assaulted. Is she all victim, all sinner, or a little of both?
Report Post »Unstable Phenomenon
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:45pmWill you liberals please go to her facebook page, and you will see a very different vindictive spoiled brat. I do agree her father went to far which had didn’t deny, BUT when you read all of her post you get a very different picture.
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:55pmjzs
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:44pm
“Sounds to me that her “snapping” was a lot like her dad’s confession that he “lost his temper.” I guess it can happen to anyone. Shrug.”
How utterly idiotic!!!!
The man is guilty of repeated beatings of this girl and you attribute it to a one time “SNAP, giving his criminal actions parity with her cry for help.
Absolutely amazing.
Do you EVER post anything that makes sense?
Report Post »LynneWolfe
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:01pmYeah! Go bud! Spoiled brat, and this was purely blackmail and dad obviously didn’t buy it (or should say “pay it.”) He and mom should have let her go to jail (or juvie). Then maybe she would really have learned a lesson. Now dad needs to walk away from her and not give her another penny. Make her earn her own way, and I hope she gets NO money from her appearances! Not even in future. I could clearly see the look of malice and self-satisfaction on her face in one interview.
And she dared to say, ““I just wanted to put it out there for my dad to see it and maybe a few other people to maybe help us reconcile and see that this is wrong.” “Few people” (on youtube?) and “reconcile?” Uh…something like this especially after seven years does not bring reconciliation. This statement alone shows what a liar she is.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:04pmkmichaels
Listen, trolly. The judge was SPANKING her with a belt. Spanking IS technically “beating” but it’s not intended to produce physical injury, only to inflict pain. It isn’t child abuse, domestic violence, or assault. It’s discipline. I advocate parents disciplining their children by spanking. Anything less is uncivilized. Especially when police put out t-shirts with slogans saying “You raise’em, we cage’em”.
I spank with an open hand. Rarely, but effectively. And you know what? My kids aren’t setting up their webcam to catch their buttwhooping that they KNOW is coming because they have been unruly (my kids aren’t on the internet without supervision), and then try to release the video to slander their parents. They can call 696-KIDS and CFS and tell the teacher all the hell they want. I don’t care, and I will fight these Nazis for the right to raise and discipline my kids as I see fit as long as they’re not being physically injured.
THIS is a beating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n62U2dElyWY
THIS is a beating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-SP7iuM6k&feature=related
Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice, like it or not. It’s pretty clear that Kmichaels is a troll with no passion for anything except pointing fingers.
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:04pmkmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:36pm
“Robert, you are an arse. Bet you hear that all the time. Seriously, do you liberals have
anything other than your unfounded moronic claims?”
Which moronic claims are you referring to, old boy?
You laid out your argument so brilliantly it isn‘t possible to know what you’re referring or what you are objecting to.
And if you think I‘m a liberal you’re dumber than you sound. However, if I encounter many more retards on here like you I just might consider becoming one, if for no reason other to disassociate myself from you and your knuckle-dragging co-horts.
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:22pm8jrts
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:14pm
” Wow!! Is this guy watching you?? Better close your blinds at night….(sarcasm)”
He needs to do more than close his blinds. He needs to speak in terms that doesn‘t make it possible to know his mindset and what he’s capable of.
“As for the daughter, she was wrong to steal…plain and simple. Dad over reacted.”
Gee, now that we have your deep studied, brilliant evaluation, I guess we can all sit back and forget about the issue. Thank you for your excellent commentary.
Report Post »Barry Sadler
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:50pmLike hell it’s not justified…No wonder this country is in the toilet…bleeding heart pretend conservatives anyway…
Report Post »apatriot6460
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:30pmwhat criminal activities …down loading a program on the net he was totally out of line ….7 years or not he should be in jail
Report Post »apatriot6460
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:37pmyou sir are an idiot
Report Post »filiusdracul
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:01pmIt sounds to me like she waited until she was able to support herself before she let this one public. Whether she was doing it out of spite or not, any type of punishment that still makes the victim angry seven years later is unjustifiable. I’m sorry that she was unable to release it at the time since the man is unfit to judge. Obviously her mom agrees with her.
Report Post »donotdrinkthekoolade
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:15pmHillbilly, are you for real?! I don‘t care what this girl’s motives are. I have a child with CP. If I beat my child like her parents did, he would have had a seizure. It‘s a wonder she’s okay today. What both her parents did is reprehensible. The mother should be the blame as well. I AM THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED!
Report Post »LowerPain.org
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:16pmI couldn’t disagree more. It amazes me how some people will find fault with the victim in a case like this.
He gave her a Mercedes, so he gets a pass?? Are you kidding me??
Report Post »LowerPain.org
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:23pmOne more thing…did you read the disgusting letter he wrote in response? What kind of monster writes a letter like that! He blames his daughter because she exposed him for what he is??
He is a vicious monster. The karma coming down the road to him won’t be pretty.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:25amActually ROBERT, I thought it was astonishing that so many posters were willing to shrug off the man’s actions in the video while venting their anger at the girl. No, this was serious physical and emotional abuse of the girl and at least emotional abuse of the wife (she was probably scared to death of what he’d do to her and the daughter). Her statement that the violence was escalating fits with a pattern of abusers. As to why she released the video, well, she probably hated her Dad and I imagine came to the conclusion to release the video after a lot of soul searching and – my guess – counseling. Even his statement suggests that he was a very cold hearted, unrepentant father.
I also found it sad that posters thought his behavior was “normal.” If they believe that, they certainly were not raised in a normal home. You can Google, but a lot of research suggests that abuse of this kind leads to more, not less criminality later in life.
No, I think school children above some age ought to been shown, say, an reenactment of this and encouraged to talk to a teacher or counselor if this is happening in their home. So CPS can be called.
You’re right, most of my posts don’t make sense, nor most of the others here.
Report Post »WeekendAtBernankes
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 1:08amA Tale of Two Tards
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:27amjzs
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 12:25am
“Actually ROBERT, I thought it was astonishing that so many posters were willing to shrug off the man’s actions in the video while venting their anger at the girl. No, this was serious physical and emotional abuse of the girl and at least emotional abuse of the wife (she was probably scared to death of what he’d do to her and the daughter). ”
Well, guy, I agree wholeheartedly with you there. Good post.
However, scared or not the mother should have protected her child from physical abuse with her own well-being regarded as secondary. Instead she administered a hard wack with the belt herself.
Too, the fact that the girl perceived the abuse to be escalating is reason enough to prompt a revelation of past abuse to try to halt it from continuing.
Strangely, like many abused victims she still loves her father and appears to hold her mother blameless. I believe children are not “things” with which to pound out our frustrations on. They are the best friends in life a parent will ever have and it is they who hold sacred the memory of their parents long after their deaths……….if they are treated with love and compassion…..and in far too many instances even if they’re not.
Report Post »itcagw
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 8:20pmI am fifty and I agree with DRFROST. If I would have done something I was expressly told not to do, I would have gotten worse than she did. Especially if I was told to bend over and didn’t. He wouldn’t have turned the lights down, the entire neighborhood would have known. Then, my friends would talk about it when I got to school. The punishment was severe by today’s standards, but in my opinion, she deserved to get an extreme spanking.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:27pmGood post ROBERT, I agree. Thanks.
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on November 5, 2011 at 10:41pmWhat a bunch ******* on this site! He didn’t hit her that hard, look at her reaction when she turns the camera off, stone faced. When I got Whooped it took hour to get my composure back. All she got was an ass-whooping probably didn’t even leave a mark. In school, we got welts when the principal paddled us
Report Post »!
keithh1981
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 1:11amAccording to her statements to Anderson Cooper, she said she set up the camera 30-45 minutes before it happen because her father was irate and discussing with her mother what to do. First of all, she was stealing a game on his computer. She knew it is wrong, because she is obviously a smart girl and set up a camera in advance. According to her statement to Cooper, there was 30-45 minutes of blank before he decided to come in. That is near an hour cooling off time. He called her in and told her to get on the bed. Knowing she was being video taped and did wrong, and was obviously trying to provoke him by not listening to him, he started hitting her legs to get her to respond.
She made the beating worse by not listening. IMO he did no wrong. She got what she deserved and then some with the stunt she is pulling now. IMO I feel she is one of the few kids that is just bad at birth. They are evil, manipulative and dirty people and by knowing this father is a stern disciplinarian and she still acts like this at age 16, tells a lot. A parent can only do so much. A bad child is a bad child no matter how hard or easy you are on them early on.
Report Post »utahmom
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:06amYou obviously know very little about abusers. They always have a story handy to explain why it was the victims fault and they had to beat them because of their own behavior. I take whatever this obviously abusive man says with a grain of salt. As to the criminal behavior, she was downloading music from the internet, which although is illegal, I would guess that a very large percentage of teens and adults alike would be being beaten regularly if this were the considered a proper punishment. The fact that she chose to live with her Dad means very little as you can see that her mother participated in the abuse. No rational human being would watch this video and believe that this was an appropriate punishment. The man is evil.
Report Post »keithh1981
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 2:56amHow was it not appropriate? He told her what to do right off the bat. She knowing full well she had a camera going 30-45 prior discussing it with his mother before he came in. This is his words. Why move put out the tape 7 years and she still does not have a real answer other than wanting to help him but not intending any harm to him. She knew very well what would happen. She was purposely baiting her already angry father after she knew she did something wrong. Period. She knew because she did it before. She knew the consequences and she broke them. She wouldn’t get on the bed as first sternly told to begin with. Did she really think acting dumb and non responsive was going to keep her from getting spanked?
Come on now, you cannot be this dense. Doesn’t take a genious to know that she chose to live with his father for 5 YEARS! And now she is ok with being with her mother in this dispute. She tried blackmailing her father when he said he wasn’t going to pay for college and see her drop out, especially when he is giving her a nice education, a nice car and other gifts other grown kids would love to have. When a parent pays for a child’s college and car, he can decide to cut her off any time and we all know this was a nasty divorce and they are using each other to get back at him. Doesn’t take a genius to figure this out. I first watched that video early this weak and said there you go she got exactly what she deserved.
Report Post »keithh1981
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 3:04amIf she would have gotten on the bed as she was told right off the bat, it wouldn’t have been bad at all. Why was this the only video? If he did this all the time and he never told him about it obviously there should be more videos of him beating her uncalled for uh? But it WAS called for because 1 video and only one case of him spanking her when she refused to do what he said knowing she was taping him.
Reality doesn’t fit her strange story at all. If she knew how to tape him the first time, where are the other cases of abuse? She didn’t tell him about the tape until recently she said. Also, yes he swears in the video so what. A lot of parents swear amongst their kids especially when they are getting punished. Problem is, most parents don’t want to admit it.
Report Post »NeMom
Posted on November 6, 2011 at 11:48amThe Judge went overboard, but this a not abuse. You should not discipline in anger. However, I watched and listened to the entire tape. There is more to the whole story as well as the video. The mother mentions Credit by exam and only using the computer for school work. In Texas that usually means you have failed a class or need to catch up in school. Instead of downloading games she should have been doing homework. The Dad also mentions she was told several times not to download, and she was defiant, as 16 year old teens can be sometimes. In Texas there are rumors of her stealing from her parents and really misbehaving at this time in her life. So perhaps the disclipine was justified. I was spanked (whipped) from 6 to about 10 as were most of my friends. We are all college graduates and productive members of society. By the time we were 16 it was not necessary. Grow up Hillary and pay your own way. But a clunker, get a student loan (and get in debt), get a job and finish college. You can‘t be on your own accepting Daddy’s money. By the way, truly abused children leave home at 18 and never look back. They don’t live with the abuser( after the divorce) and accept money from them.
Report Post »deidrea58
Posted on November 7, 2011 at 12:57pmhe was def — out of control —- but she is a whiny back stabbing – opportunistic spoiled brat —- dont like the way she dealt with releasing this video – dont much like him either — — they have serious issues — both of them
Report Post »RRFlyer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:44amI can not believe the hate I read in these letters from so called conservatives
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:49amWelcome to the Blaze.
Report Post »twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:52amMe too. It makes me soo sad.
Report Post »dscheerer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:55amYou assume that everyone posting is a conservative.
Report Post »FYI, conservatives haven’t been “chickified” by liberalism.
c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:55amBlame the Victim. Next they will be supporting this guy for President.
Report Post »dscheerer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:15amGo check out Media Matters, then come back and share an INFORMED opinion on what you read here.
Report Post »sailfished
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:42amGoes with the territory This is the premier site for fake neocon misogynistic absolutely over the top knee jerk comments . Many ,not all of these people have never had an original thought in their lives. I wonder If Glen is proud of the Types of people that it seems to attract. Alot of folks who comment here, again ,not all’ also post over at Breibarts page. I come here for news analyses, many of these folks look at it like it is some sort of extension of the bible ,. An unexamined life is not worth living someone once said, My personal opinion is many here are dead souls, they are sad ,examples of humanity, A libertarian in N.W. Montana
Report Post »LibsSuk
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:45amYou should read what liberals post on the daily kos and move on.org. If you think the blaze is harsh read those sites. Liberals claim to be smarter than conservatives. What’s your story?
Report Post »symphonic
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:51amIt really is disturbing, and one of the reasons I even post here, to give some balance.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:52amJust look at the people posting here today. Many are not Conservatives, but Progressives who come to trash the Conservatives. This comment thread is a case in point.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:55amBy the way, the hypocrisy would be staggering if it wasn’t such standard fare. Progressives are so incredibly judgemental, and they dont’ even bother to gather evidence or attempt to understand the full story. They see a Conservative render a judgement and it’s “off to the races”.
Thanks for your opinions. Everyone has them. The difference is the Conservatives place their judgement where it belongs. Instead of offering an opposing opinion, Progressives try to make Conservatives feel guilty for theirs. It’s moronic.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:56am[symphonic
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:51am
It really is disturbing, and one of the reasons I even post here, to give some balance.]
Kind of funny, especially when many of your posts seem so imbalanced themselves.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:06am[c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:55am
Blame the Victim. Next they will be supporting this guy for President.]
Apparently commonlyStupid the Ron Paulite nutcase still hates Cain, because Cain is ahead of Ron Paul by about 200% more points. Now that is funny.
Report Post »Kraus79
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:25amHate for whom? The father who beat his daughter? Or the daughter who turned on the camera anticipating a beating, allowed herself to be beaten, then held onto the video for seven years biding her time to blackmail him with it?
Yeah, I hate them both.
Report Post »JustAGuy
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:32amCommonsense said: “Blame the Victim. Next they will be supporting this guy for President.”
….like Bill “you better put some ice on that lip” Clinton?
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:37amAnyone here justifying the beating of a 16 year old girl like that for any reason should take a long look in the mirror. You’d fit right in with the Taliban.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:43am[anOpinion
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:37am
Anyone here justifying the beating of a 16 year old girl like that for any reason should take a long look in the mirror. You’d fit right in with the Taliban.]
I have seen nobody here “justifying” the beating. So don’t worry until it happens. What the comments are saying is that both of them appear to have their various list of sins behind them.
Report Post »JustAGuy
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:58amanOpinion said: “Anyone here justifying the beating of a 16 year old girl like that for any reason should take a long look in the mirror. You’d fit right in with the Taliban.”
Anyone who thinks they’ve read something that was never posted should blame their government union teachers for failing to perform their duties in an adequate manner.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:10pmyou read too much into it…net words have no tone nor tenure. And if you meet anyone from here you’d have a different opinion of their persona. Perhaps the net should be shut down. LOL
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:13pm@KMICHAELS, @JUSTAGUY
Try doing a little reading yourself, here’s just a couple
“V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:14am
That’s right, Poverty.
She got what she deserved for breaking his rules. He was totally in the right to do it at his discretion. She’s trying to smear her dad at this point because she got her little feelings hurt and wants some getback”
“JEDI.KEP
Report Post »Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:27am
This wasn’t abuse. It was a beating as punishment. The girl broke the law! What daddy gave her was much better than what Jailbird Sally would give her in prison.”
kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:13pm[anOpinion
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:13pm
@KMICHAELS, @JUSTAGUY
Try doing a little reading yourself, here’s just a couple
“V-MAN MACE
“JEDI.KEP]
Good point in one sense, however, both of those posters are known fruit-loops, that tend to be sarcastic and or behave as liberal plants (jeki.kep). VMan is a nutty Ron Paulite that sometimes employs sarcasm as his form of response. Not sure if he was serious or sarcastic. However I do know that he is generally looney.
The problem with saying “nobody” does this or that is that you can always find a fruitcake example against your statement. Perhaps I should have said that the general audience here at the blaze are not justifying the dad doing the beating.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:59pm@kmich
Report Post »So if someone does not agree with you they are “fruitcakes”? namecalling a BLAZER DEFENSE
kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:39pm[c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:59pm
@kmich
So if someone does not agree with you they are “fruitcakes”? namecalling a BLAZER DEFENSE]
Nah, you’re a fruitcake when you show consistent signs of getting most issues arse backwards, which you tend to do. Politically, you support a nutjob (Ron Paul) and logically, you have zero common sense. That is why I call you a fruit-cake.
Is name calling a blazer thing? Well, first off, the most horrendous form of name-calling is typically found on liberal sites. So if you want to use examples of name-calling, I suggest you go to say huff po.
In any case, you really are a bit of a nutjob. But, that is life. We have to put up with nutjobs anywhere.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:12pmkmichaels
I think Common hit it the nail right on the head with force.
You call anyone names that doesn’t toe your ideological line. You call it “getting it arse backwards”, but really it‘s just an opinion that’s diametrically opposed to your own. You call Ron Paul supporters “nutjobs supporting a nutjob”- just more childish, baseless namecalling. And they don’t have “common sense” because they don’t subscribe to your twisted logic.
***FAIL***
Report Post »8jrts
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:43pmDon’t like it here, go to Huff Po!! Quality stuff like Bush bashing. (which is getting old)
The Huffington Post Luke Johnson First Posted: 11/4/11 12:28 PM ET Updated: 11/4/11 12:30 PM ET titled “George W. Bush: ‘People Didn’t Think I Could Read, Let Alone Write’
here’s a sample of the quality things they say there……
“The man couldn’t make it to the end of a sentence without tearing a ligament, and he was openly contemptuous of intellect, but he still pretended to read. It was funny—funny sad, not funny ha-ha.”
“Boo$h was fluent in one language, thats if one is willing to believe gibberish is a language ”
“George is the only one saying it, and I’m supposed to believe him? His credibility is less than stellar, as is his intellect. Shame on us for being fooled twice by this mental midget.”
They are entitled to their opinion as are the blazers.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:43pm[V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:12pm
kmichaels
I think Common hit it the nail right on the head with force.]
So, what you are saying is that one known nutty Ron Paul supporter thinks that another known nutty Ron Paul supporter makes sense. Well, call me surprised, heh heh heh.
Report Post »robert
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 4:50pmJaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:55am
“….. they dont’ even bother to gather evidence or attempt to understand the full story. They see a Conservative render a judgement and it’s “off to the races”.
“Gather evidence?” When have you done that yourself? Most everything you comment on is no more than mindless drivel that is based in emotion with no thought or consideration involved in the issue you’re supposed to be addressing.
Instead of substantive rebuttal you offer snarky remarks like a teenage kid, and there‘s never been a point you’ve brought forth that involves any kind of sound reasoning or logic. They’re all mindless insults, because you disagree with the person making them, not because you’ve arrived at a well thought out opinion.
“Progressives try to make Conservatives feel guilty for theirs. It’s moronic.”
First of all those people are not “Progressives,” they’re radical liberals. Their desired mantra of calling themselves Progressives is a psychological ploy they use to get gullible people like you to parrot what they want. They think it sounds more chic and forward moving than liberals, which has a horrendous connotation to it, because of all the wackiness associated with the term. People like you are too dumb to know that.
And so far as making people feel guilty, are you blind to the fact that that is EXACTLY what you do everytime you set your bony fingers on the keyboard?
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 5:11pmCommon,
I didn’t even know you supported Ron Paul… what the hell is this troll talking about?
Is he mad that he sounds like a fool so he has to attack anyone who disagrees with him?
What’s up with that? Attention-seeking? Desperate for relevance?
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:43amIf I did not see the video of her getting beat, I would think she was talking about the government.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:01amShocker. Progressives often fail to place responsibility where it belongs.
Report Post »ConstitutionalPatriot
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:43amWe see a snip-it of the incident, we know she was stealing, we do not know what else she was doing. She did this post BECAUSE he stopped paying her way as a 23 yr old living with her boyfriend.
When her parents divorced she CHOSE to stay with her FATHER.
Did he go to far on the video yes. But who is the manipulator here. I see her as what she is a part of 99%
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:56amNews flash, you’re part of the 99% too.
Report Post »dmforman
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:02amI don’t condone what the father did, but the daughter is being manipulative. Why bring it out now? Daddy stopped paying my way and I have to work. She is using her disability as crutch. She needs to look up Nick Vujicic, a man without arms and legs and see his attitude about the world. Sounds like she wants people to feel sorry for her. She needs to grow up. Dad was wrong, but bringing the video out so many years after the fact is wrong.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:50amOne of the first sound bytes from the father states that he believed this was retribution for his making her return a car…sounds like he took her Mercedes away and she tried to get even….
Report Post »This is the reason for the whole story……perfumed princess who expected daddy to pay for everything is now seeing real life for the first time and trys to destroy daddy because she’s not happy with having to make her own way…..BOO HOOO!
And if she’s living with her boyfriend, LET HIM TAKE CARE OF THE SPOILED BRAT…at least he’s getting something in return, every night!
C. Schwehr
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:52amTo “Your Sensei”: and you’re part of the 1% of worthless trolls on The Blaze…what was your name before?
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:52amA constitutional patriot would not be welcome in the “We’re the 99%” OWS movement.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:02am@You’re Sensless
Finally! One of the Progressives admit that Conservatives and hard working moderates are the REAL 99%. Great point, Senseless. Thanks for finally being honest.
Report Post »chevy65
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:49am!00% correct in my opinion. I would love to see down the road how she is with her own children. She will either Never discipline or she will lash out [at times in anger] and overdue it, much like she has said that he did. I have seen wayyyy tooo many kids that have never been disciplined and I feel like that‘s exactly what’s wrong with the world.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:56am@ YourSensei [Quote: News flash, you’re part of the 99% too.]
Your 99% doesn’t speak for my 53% that actually pay for taxes to support the other 47% that pay NOTHING. You do not speak for me. I never asked you to speak for me. You have no right to include me in your over inflated numbers to give you pathetic, small movement substance.
You and your ilk lost all credit as a movement when you decided your radical views are the views of the 99% Americans. If we had a vote today, only 30% would support the “99%” OWS movement.
Now go to your hole and be a good little Troll.
Report Post »ExpertShot
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:53pmI’m smelling a Personality Disorder here.
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:12pmNot so much the 99%, more like the 47% who don’t pay any taxes and have no stake in the body politic.
#iamthe53
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:29pmJohnny Johnny Johnny . . . or as you’re known down at the Grange Hall, Captain Midknight . . . first of all, the 47% you say pay NOTHING actually do pay taxes – various payroll taxes, SSI taxes, state income taxes, property taxes, sales tax, gas tax, all kinds of taxes. What you’re struggling to find (or obscure) is that they pay no federal income tax. Now I know you hear the “they pay NOTHING” line on Fox News all the time. That‘s because they believe it’s useful to dissemble in that way, because it will get uninformed, non-critical thinkers (I’m looking at you Captain Knightweed) to agree with them, this adding to the ginned up outrage that is coin of the realm for the right wing in this 21st century.
Here’s part two, now stay with me on this. Of those who pay no federal income tax (remember that phrase?) about 35% of the 47 percent are people who are too old to work, full time students, disability beneficiaries, long-term unemployed and other such despicable freeloaders. Another 30% are families making less than $10,000 per year. Fully 65% of “nonpayers” were families who made less than $20,000 last year. That’s $385 a week.
Now, tell me again you ignorant joke of a man, how these people are ruining our economy. Tell me again, why Roger Ailes can’t make $41,500,00 a year instead of $43,000,000. You now I try to keep it light, but sometimes you people so utterly disgust me that it’s hard to treat with you with simple derision you deserve.
Report Post »krisiniL
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:40amI don’t find anyone in this family very sympathetic. It sounds like she was a rotten kid who engaged in deceptive behavior (theft, placing hidden cameras) and waited until now to inflict maximum revenge on her dad. If she truly wanted reconciliation, she would have confronted him and shown him the video privately. Her dad seems to be a tyrant that enjoys inflicting pain on others. Meanwhile, is that the sound of rotten kids all over America placing hidden cameras to blackmail their parents so they too can go on Anderson Cooper?? God help America.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:57amIt was released by her father’s attorney that the video being released was done because he took the car away. Yes, her father has been supporting her since the incident took place. It doesn’t make it right, but there is more to the story than her side.
http://www.caller.com/news/2011/nov/03/judge-william-adams-speaks-about-about-belt-lashin/
Allegedly, she is not that handicap, as cerebral palsy of her type does not hinder thought, but motor skills. She is high intelligent and deceptive (allegedly). When her parents got divorced, SHE DECIDED to LIVE WITH HER FATHER.
There is more here than she states. She said to a reporter before, “I warned him that I had the video.” Here is video of it @ 6:35:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKvTJc1a5F0&feature=related
Ummm, why warn him? Unless you are trying to blackmail and extort something? It seems she did not learn her lesson about stealing if the allegations of her father is correct.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:12amYeah, I’d call it a case of “he snapped, she snapped.” One more dysfunctional family.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 2:09pm@ kryptonite
How much you want to beat this family will be on Dr. Phil?
Report Post »jaswalt
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:32pmJust a note Krisinil, showing the abuser the video would accomplish nothing. I know people like this man and they are in complete denial that what they did was wrong even when they see it with their own eyes. Having seen the emotional damage these people inflict on the people they beat, curse at, belittle, humiliate and personally I don’t think there should be a statute of limitations on abuse. Try living it and then, only then, tell me otherwise.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:41pmSorry bet not beat…. DAMN typo demon!
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:25pm@JOHNNYMIDKNIGHT
Report Post »Ugh. Probably. Dysfunctional society too.
your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:34pmJohnny Wadknight . . .You’re right. You‘re right and when you’re right you’re right. And you are REALLY right. Am I right? I think she deserves another beating, am I right?
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:36pmPorta Johnny . . .it’s not the typo demon. It’s the Freud demon.
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:40amand yet she picked her dad over her mom after the divorce…………
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:54amIt all comes down to money the little Bi*** wants to live off her dad forever. If he would have kept supporting her it would never came out. It shows just who she is. No one should trust being around her, she will set a trap for someone to get money another way.
Report Post »I don’t support the dad for his actions or foul mouth around a 16 old kid, but this was a set-up job….
normbal
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:13amSo why did you do it? Go back to your father instead of your mother?
“Beats me.”
Report Post »donotdrinkthekoolade
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:32pmIf you knew anything about abuse, you wouldn’t find it surprising. If there was physical violence, there was emotional abuse, as well. I know a girl that has chosen to live 50% of the time with her abusive father. She comes home to her mother and complains about the fighting in her father’s home. Her mother has told her daughter repeatedly that she does not have to live with her dad and has asked her why she continues to live in such an oppressive environment. (She has also told her to call 911 when and if he loses it.) After years, her daughter finally told her that she was afraid of what her dad would do if she chose not to go back to his house. Simply put, the father’s intimidation has done its job.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:40amI used to get spankings.
We always received one or two warnings. When dad/mom had enough we would be told to go and get a belt from the closet. Walk s.l.o.w.l.y down the hall, open the closet and pick out a belt. Maybe wack yourself a few times on the leg to see which was belt would do the least amount of damage. Then s.l.o.w.l.y walk back down the hall and submit the belt for the parents approval and receive 3-4 whacks of “tough love” with it.
There was one or two times when I had enough time to sneak into the bedroom with my brother (partner in crime) and put on all of our underwear which was about 12 pairs. There is no way my dad couldn’t have noticed.
Looking back, spankings taught me pretty quickly that actions have consequences.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:55amI tried putting a book in my pants once to pad the belt lash LMAO! It fell out immediately during all of my twitching and resistance, and I got an extra swat because of it! Another time, my dad missed because of all my squirming, and the belt came up my side and across my chest. Guess what happened after that? I learned my lesson. Go figure….
Report Post »Sugabee
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:37amWhile I CERTAINLY do NOT condone the father’s behavior in that video, I have lots of questions about this daughter. If she was living with her boyfriend, why was her phone bill and car note still being paid by her father – a man who supposedly was ultra-abusive? Why did she wait 7 years to release this? If it was so bad, why didn’t she and her mother leave and report him before this? She’s a 23 year old grown a$$ woman- pay your OWN bills – don’t owe anyone anything!!
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:53amShe posted the video after he cut the money off from what I understand. It would seem that the motivation was not for “dad to get help” as she stated but to be vindictive.
Report Post »Jennifer_D
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:45pmWhen the original video of the “beating” was posted I knew that there were must have been ulterior motives. Just another spoiled little rich girl upset that daddy is no longer footing the bill for her phone and car. I bet she has never worked an honest day’s work in her life and this is an attempt to get back at her father for trying to set some limits.
The video that was posted was a small snippit selected by the daughter; it didn’t show what led the father to the point he was at in the video. I don’t condone abuse in any way, but it is very likely that this girl was out of control even then and that led to the father finally having enough of it.
Is it really a surprise why the majority of young people are how they are?
Report Post »dscheerer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:37amWhy on earth did she wait this long to release this? For attention? What did daddy do recently that ticked her off?
Report Post »Greatwire.info
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:24amHe cut off her allowance and took her Mercedes away.
I believe he went way too far in his discipline and that the family could have used some sound counseling. The dysfunction of that family is now playing out in the public eye all because Daddy won’t let her be a bum.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:57amDaddy took the Mercedes away! Now her boyfriend has to put up with her whinning about having to work for a living…I wonder how much longer the boyfriend will put up with her crap?
Report Post »Beckett
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:35amWhy didn’t he take the computer away? Who is the guy on Glenn’s show right now defending this?
Report Post »SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:44amThis judge is unfit to serve. Video doesnt lie. This guy went overboard and it is clearly abusive. Discipline is to the point and has finality. Hes a little man who needs full control.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 7:59pmThe Judge will no longer be on the bench, a replacement has been named and will take over the office on Monday November 7th.
My question is what is the “family secret” (addiction)mentioned in some of the interviews?
Never trusted the guy, even the way he got in the office is questionable. And his attention to his duties as a magistrate (showing up late – not letting the jail now where he was) was atrocious.
OMG
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:35amShe may need yet another @ss whippin.
Report Post »donotdrinkthekoolade
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 8:22pmYou know nothing about abuse. The girl was 16 years old. What kind of parent beats a sixteen year old? That guy should be in jail. There is definitely something wrong with him. He and his wife were having too much fun taking turns beating their daughter.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:34amI was on her side until she tried to get revenge. She’s no better than her father…
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:45amDarn the victim for revenge? Sounds familar.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:05am[c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:45am
Darn the victim for revenge? Sounds familar.]
When a person, regardless of what happened to her, does some manipuliative conninving things for revenge, then that person is guilty of her own set of sins. Nothing justifies any evil that was done to her, but neither does evil done to her justify her own evil.
However, you, not being that smart generally, seem to have a hard time understanding that even people that may have been sinned against, can still be guilty of their own sins.
Report Post »sapper
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:33amhey aholes, my dad whipped me with willow switches when I was a kid leaving welts on my butt, legs and lower back, occasionally some of them would bleed. What this idiot girl got was not a “beating”, was not abuse. If it were so bad then why the hell did she choose to stay with her dad when the parents got divorced???? To me that puts the lie to all of her story. I deserved every whipping I got as a kid except one and like my dad said, I probably deserved it for something I never got caught at so no sympathy there either. Frankly, if not for the threat of a good whipping from dad I would have been REAL trouble when I got older. My dad is now 80 and I still have a lot of respect for him. Not fear……respect. I didn’t die from being whipped, this girl probably didn’t even have any welts from the belt he was using and she never went to the hospital, no school officials ever spoke up and in this society of hyper nosyness I find it impossible that some do gooder teacher or high school friend would not have reported bruises on her legs or back had they seen anything. She chose to stay living with her supposedly abusive dad when her parents divorced. Not one of her teachers, friends or anyone but mom has said a single thing to corroborate her accusations. Gee, I suppose ex-wife and daughter cut off financially have no alterior motive at all right…..grow a brain people. There is a huge differnce between abuse and a few half hearted smacks with a belt.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:48amDid you do this to your children too? Make them bleed and welts?
Report Post »dscheerer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:49amVery good points. At 15, my mother chased me home with a belt after I didn’t come home on time. Did I deserve punishment? Oh yes I did. I was a repeat offender. What I can’t believe to this day is that she actually caught me in our front yard!
Report Post »Although it was harsh, it didn’t look like a “beating” to me, either. It sounds as though, according to her, the “abuse” didn’t start until he took her nice car and money taken away.
justangry
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:03am“hey aholes, my dad whipped me with willow switches when I was a kid leaving welts on my butt, legs and lower back, occasionally some of them would bleed.”… Glad to see you’re such a well adjusted adult.
Report Post »wbrandolph
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:03amI find you post an excellent insight as to why this was wrong. Considering your perceptions of reality, it is clear they were skewed.
Considering how she is now, it is clear that his method of raising her was not a good one.
She is perpetuating a victim mentality. She was a victim, that is clear. However, her reasons for bringing it to light would not seem to have anything to do with preventing this type of abuse of others; just to get what she can out of the situation. There is clearly no altruism. His ABUSE is being kept alive the way she is handling this.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:41amSapper …
Report Post »When attempting to shove a stick into an electrical receptacle
When told not to toss a ball in the house
When trying to lie your way out
When digging a hole under the foundation
When jumping your bicycle over …
I get your point
TheValley
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:46amCommonsense, try getting some you PC linguine spined apologist.
Report Post »dscheerer
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:47amShe is perpetuating a “my parents weren‘t nice to me so instead of growing up and realizing at some point that I can’t blame mommy and daddy forever and grow to be a well-adjusted adult, I am going to live the rest of my life as a vengeful, dysfunctional brat who thinks that the world owes me a living” (aka, OWS)
Report Post »The psychology of blaming your parents for the adult you are became popular in the ‘80’s, and we see the results of that. Yes, we are all products of our environment, but most of us learn from our mistakes, learn accountability, and rise above the past. We learn that nobody is perfect, including our parents and ourselves.
Imagine what kind of society we would be if more psychologists had counseled on how that thinking was harmful.
Darla_K
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:08amI was a child that was beaten by both of my parents. I always tried to be perfect and do everything by the book. I never got in trouble but for some reason all 6 of us were beaten. We were slapped in the face, our hair was pulled, we were beat with a belt and sometimes whatever my mom could find to beat us with. When they divorced I did not think of the beatings and who I wanted to live with. You still love your parents no matter what. This girl sounds selfish but she doesn’t deserve to be beaten like this. The parents should of taken all her “stuff” away from her. The dad and mom is a loser.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 1:21pm[wbrandolph
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:03am
I find you post an excellent insight as to why this was wrong. Considering your perceptions of reality, it is clear they were skewed.
Considering how she is now, it is clear that his method of raising her was not a good one.]
We can see that the dad made some serious errors. However, I would have to correct you on your belief that a child is either good or bad based only on how the parents raised them. I would have to say that is a simplistic and purely wrong view.
However I will also quickly add that how parents raise their kids is indeed one of the most meaningful variables in somebodies life, just not the only variable. One major variable being what the child’s character is from birth. There is tons of evidence showing that kids are not purely a result of their environment.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:14pm@KMICHAELS
Report Post »There is tons of evidence showing that kids are not purely a result of their environment.
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Yep. The human genome is a fascinating thing. I’d say she has a nasty streak in her gene pool. Also, there are spiritual bondages that get inherited when God is not present, and in this particular family those bondages are present, abuse being just one of them. This family has an ugly bondage to greed. The father probably inherited it too, i.e., it’s generational. They all need help, but none of them seem to want it. They are destroying each other, which is what happens when demonic strongholds are in control.
your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 6:50pmHere’s the pattern. it’s not whether the beating is right or justified. It’s “I got beat so everybody else should get beat too.”
Classic sustained adolescence rom people who have never resolved the abuse they got as children.
Report Post »trmkc
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:33amWhat is the blame the victim attitude? This horrific video was a bully beating the crap out of a child. Discipline all you want, physically abusing a child is a different story. This father is whining because he was treated unfairly…give me a break. Live with the consequences that you are a bully. Karma is king!
Report Post »mrsmileyface
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:01amAwwww look at me look at me im a poor little victom im a poor little victom. B.S. I got every lickin I deserved. And Im 100% sure she did too. I hate this im a poor little victom attitude and its not only her doing it. Its a good deal of society at large too. Pitiful.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:00amYou cant even spell victim. Your dad hit you in the head 2 many times.
Report Post »Forward
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:58pm@commonsense
Why can’t they both be wrong? The dad wasn‘t right but that doesn’t make the daughter right. If this is all about her father’s current level of support to her, she is being manipulative and may well destroy her father. The whole “I want him to get help” thing is clearly questionable. Why would she destroy him now? What is so special about 7 years later?
Report Post »azjeff1963
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:32amThe Prison system is filled with people who’s parents didnt care enough to Discipline there Kids.
Report Post »it is our jobs as parents to Prepair our kids for REAL Life not coddle them.
i was whipped with a willow switch by my Grandmother a belt by my Father a hairbrush by my Mother and a big paddle with holes in it from my Principal. AND EVERY TIME I DESERVED IT.
the bigger the offence…..the harder the punnisment. Piracy is a federal offence maybe he should have just turned the ungreatfull little Bit*h in.
Darla_K
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:31amA line has to be drawn between a spanking and a beating. This girl at 16 was getting a beating. Her mom and dad should of raised her better and taken more time with her, got her involved in community activities or whatever it takes to make her a better person and know right from wrong. Most of us learn right from wrong from a young child. Maybe dad should of taken her on a trip to the jail and show her what happens to thieves.
Report Post »Autumknight
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:30amin his interview yesterday, the judge said she wasn’t hurt. clearly, she is very hurt and he will never understand that. he has probably lost his daughter for good and that’s a shame.
Report Post »jedi.kep
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:27amThis wasn’t abuse. It was a beating as punishment. The girl broke the law! What daddy gave her was much better than what Jailbird Sally would give her in prison.
Also, 60 years ago, this was normal punishment for a disobedient child. Not only would the neighbors have supported the judge, they might have even helped!
It is unreal how upsidedown our society has become.
Report Post »twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:35amare you trying to be ironic? if your not then YIKES I sure hope you don’t have kids.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:00am60 years ago… this was punishment… in the Lower Classes, by Drunks, and Mental Defectives… but it was Not NORMAL!
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:46amNot even 60 years ago.Try less than thirty.
Report Post »@lukerw
If you truly believe that post of only low lifes drunks and others it can only prove one thing.You my sir are a city slicker and an ignorant one to boot.It was and is normal.Its called escalation of discipline.The only reason you don’t know about it is that ,either you weren’t raised right[most likely]
don’t have children[we can only hope]or are a liberal.[Also most likely}
your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:27amShe has a lot more character and courage than her old man.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:38amPlease she was engaging in criminal activties and her father did the right thing. It obviously did something because she stopped what ever criminal activties she was doing. Allowing her to continue and end up in jail would have only made her an evne bigger criminal. Corperal punishment works it’s been proven time and time again.
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:38amI disagree. She was not a tiny child. She was a defiant teenager, deliberately pushing her father’s buttons so she could film it. She has been perfectly willing to take from him, even as an adult, but is now trying to destroy him. She is a miserable human being.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:53amOh yes, pushing her fathers buttons, Please daddy stop. please please
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:54amGrammy B . . . How many of your brood have been arrested? How many of the womenfolk in your family have been beaten?
Report Post »twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:00amGramma B if you are a grandmother I am guessin you where one of those women who is still with a husband who beat her kids. The stories you tell your self to stay with such a man. You know full well there are better, more effective, and loving ways to help teen that may be on a troubled path. (giving the benefit of the doubt that she was even that bad)
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:35amI find the pop-psych analyses made in reaction to my comment very amusing. My partners in our litigation firm would also laugh at the image of me as an abused woman. It is hilarious. I have never been abused, nor have my six children. My husband is mild-mannered. He lost his temper once or twice with a (temporarily) belligerent teenager, but usually I had to be the disciplinarian and set the standards. Did I switch them once in a while with a stick I kept for the purpose (just like the one my mother kept)? Yes. None have been to jail. All are productive members of society, of whom I am very proud. They are now raising my 21 grandchildren. We have a close family.
I repeat, that daughter knew she was taping it, so she fought and screamed up a storm to make it as good as possible. She was knowingly engaging in criminal activity, and defying her parents. I suspect they were at their wits’ end with her. She is a horrible person, and I suspect that, when all things are considered, her father has been better to her than she deserves.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:03pm[twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:00am
Gramma B if you are a grandmother I am guessin you where one of those women who is still with a husband who beat her kids.]
You sound like a nutcase liberal that assumes the worst and usually ends up being wrong in your extreme conclusions.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:26amShe posted the video for revenge – maybe also in attempt to get some monies. Not looking down on her though, her choice, her beatings. If she really wanted to “help” her dad she could has used the tape as a type of blackmail & get him to attend counseling.
This story reminds me of a girl I dated back in highschool. Her dad was growing & selling pot. She never smoked, was smart and was pretty straight-laced. She had asked her dad to stop growing/selling twice and he did not stop. So she called up the county police & told them everything. It was the largest bust in the county’s history & made statewide news. She was completely excommunicated from his side of the family (including grandparents with whom she was very close). She then moved out of state to live with her mother & ironically started using heavy drugs.
Report Post »twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:47amJonny- What a simiple view of the world you have. These beaters are master manipulators as well. I know I grew up in a home with one. There would be no raid, no bust, no CPS/DCFS come in (especially cause he’s a judge). Men who beat their children know how to talk their selves out of these situations; and make us look like the bad kids who deserve it. Your story of a hippy pot smoking dad is FAR from coralary with this one.
Revenge or not. I call it this guy is getting what he deserves. He get’s to face the consequence of his actions. He’s not getting a criminal trial, so let the world see the kind of powerless coward he is.
Report Post »Johnny Cocheroo
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:10am@twin
Ease up a little friend. I didn‘t condone the father’s behavior. It’s obvious that he had lost control instead of being a father administering tough love.
All I am saying is that the girl doesn’t appear to be doing this to help her father – which is what she is claiming. Not saying what she is doing is right or wrong – but – I don’t believe that helping is her motive.
If you had video like this and actually wanted to help your father – would you publish the video or do it another way?
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 11:12amJohnny – I have to agree with some of your points. The more details I hear in the story, a picture is forming. The girl was never disciplined when she was small because of her CP. As she got older she started the types behaviors that most children experiment with and wasn’t corrected soon enough – probably CP again – and learned to use her victimhood as a sheild. By the time the stealing and lying was getting out of control, her parents had already lost control of her. They were in a major oppositional power struggle and they were still legally responsible. The tape was a set up and a performance on her part with plans to use it later, when it suited her. She may have been using it to blackmail him, what…support after you move in with your boyfriend??? A Mercedes???? and sure, she snapped when he said no more, so, she called his bluff. I find her less than genuine in her interview, and also very well spoken, intelligent, but it doesn’t fool me for a second.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:08pm[twin.minerva
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:47am
Jonny- What a simiple view of the world you have. These beaters are master manipulators as well. I know I grew up in a home with one.]
I suppose you think that justifies your extreme conclusions about everyone else, that they all must be beaters too, or live with beaters. You have unresolved issues from somewhere. I suggest you learn to forgive a little, since you seem like a bit of a man hater, just saying.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:10pmHad the daughter not taped the beating the father probably would never have admitted he beat her. The mom and dad were both abusers, no matter what the girl had done. If I beat someone every time they misbehaved I would be sitting in jail. No one deserves to be beat. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I have seen the children that had been beaten as children and now are adults. Not good in alot of cases.
Report Post »moreteaplease
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:26amThat is not discipline! That is nothing more than a parent taking out their anger on the child. It‘s pretty clear in the video that he lost control and couldn’t stop himself.
I grew up on the receiving end of that very same crap and it continued until I was big enough to fight back, then it stopped.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:22amAlthought these parents did go too far……there are two sides to every story and it starting to sound like that she has opened up a can of worms that she can’t put the lid back on.
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:22amWHIP IT,WHIP it gooooood
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:44amHe should have worn his flower pot hat.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:14am.
Report Post »Look’s like she needs another trip to the wood shed……………….
lukerw
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:11amHillary, this was Abuse… and you can no more reconcile with an Abuser… than a TEA Party member can embrace OWS!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:18amThat isn’t abuse. It’s discipline.
Don‘t try to demean the Tea Party because all Tea Party members don’t neccessarily stand in opposition to all of the OWS protestors. I wouldn’t even judge the OWS protestors or the Tea Party based on what the MSM is portraying.
I have idiots on here telling me that I’m not a Tea Party member for protesting the Police State and the Federal Reserve, and speaking out against the heavyhandedness of Police, as if they’re the arbiters of Tea Partyism.
Report Post »c0mm0nsense
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:54amVman This was abuse, if you can watch the video and listen to his words.
Report Post »Also, Keep up the good work. We need people out there like you.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 3:19pmVerbal abuse?
Who prosecutes for verbal abuse?
This society has it’s stigma on physical abuse by males. The other 5 forms of abuse are rarely addressed. Spanking, even with a belt, is not physical abuse. Balling up a fist and punching or slapping until bruised in the face or something, that’s physical abuse.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:07amIf this doesn’t straighten the kid out, next, drag her out to the gates of the city and stone her. Perhaps she should could be given 4 hours in a womens prison cell so she can get a taste of what her life will become if she doesn’t experience consequences for her own actions.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:13amAh, yes… Muslim… hard Love!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:14amThat’s right, Poverty.
She got what she deserved for breaking his rules. He was totally in the right to do it at his discretion. She’s trying to smear her dad at this point because she got her little feelings hurt and wants some getback.
Report Post »Tired-of-fools
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 9:43amAnother rectal orafice heard from
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:00amWhen your children don’t listen to you, what makes you think they’ll listen to God.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 10:24am@POVERTY.SUCKS
Report Post »Believe it or not… all Humans are Peers… and Equal Rights renders the young capable of Failure and Destruction. We do not own Children… that would be Slavery. Rather, we are Educators and Teachers… where we keep the Survivors!
kmichaels
Posted on November 4, 2011 at 12:13pmPoverty.Sucks is a liberal plant. Avoid that moron at all costs.
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