Just Abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Already

The following is a commentary piece by TheBlaze’s national security expert Buck Sexton.

Congressional investigators released a report today highlighting the culpability of five Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) officials in the Operation Fast and Furious debacle.

Should We Abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms?

The report offered few new revelations and seemed pretty much useless — much like the ATF itself.

About the only value of the 211-page document released today is that it clearly spells out the reasons why the ATF’s days should be numbered, revealing a level of gross incompetence, neglect of oversight, and bureaucratic ineptitude that should outrage us all. The two planned follow-on Congressional reports will deal more directly with the Department of Justice’s role and the allegations of a cover-up that continue to plague Attorney General Eric Holder.

(RELATED:  Will This New Fast and Furious Report Force Holder to Resign? (Take Our Poll))

This first report’s conclusion about the ATF officials involved is straightforward: ATF devised an operation to track guns that they never had any means of actually tracking, nobody in the chain of command stopped this from happening, and nobody has been held accountable in any meaningful way since the scandal erupted.

The operation itself led to horrific outcomes including a murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent, hundreds of dead Mexican civilians, and thousands of guns in the hands of Mexican drug cartel assassins. This has been well-documented on the Blaze, and we will continue to cover the issue closely.

But in looking at the ATF’s role in this specific operation and its obvious failings as shown in the Congressional report, a broader question arises.

Why shouldn’t we just abolish the ATF?

There seem to be many arguments in favor of this proposition, and very few against it.

In mere concept, the ATF is bothersome. Any organization devoted to criminal prosecutions based on the regulation of otherwise legal substances should make us uneasy. People tend to forget this now, but the ATF’s tentacles extend far and wide because of the unrestrained statist monster that is the interstate Commerce Clause in the post Wickard vs. Filburn era.

This has meant that that the federal government can regulate alcohol, tobacco, and firearms as much as it wants — well beyond the original intent of the Constitution — and it already has its enforcers in place in the form of ATF agents.

Add to this the fact that the ATF’s proclivity for overreaching enforcement goes back as far as the organization itself. For those of us who prefer limited government and the absolute minimum of bureaucratic intrusion into our lives, the ATF’s history is one long cautionary tale. It has bounced around under the umbrella of larger federal agencies, including the IRS and the Treasury department (where it collected taxes on liquor) and helped enforce Prohibition.  Once you add Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Fast and Furious catastrophes onto the heap, you have a pretty compelling case for ATF dissolution.

And let’s not forget the cost issue. These days most Americans seem to agree that budgets matter. The 5,000 employees and billion dollar price tag of the ATF is small by behemoth government agency standards, but federal cuts have to start somewhere, and setting a precedent that unnecessary agencies can in fact be eliminated could have ripple effects across the government.

As for the talented, hardworking, patriotic agents who no doubt joined the ATF in the spirit of real public service, their skills are certainly transferable to local and state law enforcement, if not another federal agency. There are plenty of cities and towns who could use seasoned law enforcement officers, and wouldn’t have them focusing efforts on bootleggers, cigarette smugglers, and harassing gun show collectors.

Tonight we will start off our discussion on “Real News” with this issue at 6PM tonight, led by Andrew Wilkow. Hopefully Blaze readers and GBTV viewers will light up the board with comments so we can get to the heart of this issue.

UPDATE:

You can watch the aforementioned “Real News” clip here.

Comments (150)

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  • All Pro
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:58pm

    JUSTANOTHEROPINION
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:36pm
    Ron Paul would have let Iran develop a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it. That’s not hear say or conjecture, that’s fact, he said so himself. That’s the best reason we do not want him. He’s no longer an option. You people are as bad with this Paul issue as Obama is with blaming Bush. It’s done, move on.
    ————
    Yes, it’s done. The country is finished. You can thank the RNC and the DNC.
    And to be more accurate what RP said was that letting Iran go was better than a thermonuclear exchange with China.
    I agree.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:03pm

      Outstanding summary! Thank You Buck…and…YES, the ATF & E (don’t forget the EXPLOSIVES)…she be ABOLISHED!

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:04pm

      JUSTANOTHEROPINION,

      Should we allow a law-breaking, tribalist, marxists lunatic who lets 25 million foreign invaders roam the countryside of his own country killing and raping and child molesting his own people, and lets tribalist ethnocentric thugs kill thousands more of his own people, and ARMS foreign criminal cartels to murder MORE of his own people (in a scheme to take away their GOD-GIVEN right to keep and bear arms)… to have nuclear weapons?

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:04pm

      They won‘t abolish the BATF because people like trying to build their government above God’s.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:07pm

      Of course the country is finished because people don’t know when to say when. The beloved land is the land of freedom, and doesn’t matter what it is called.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:09pm

      A lot of people don’t like George Soros, but I thought he made a pretty nice bowling ball.

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:31pm

      Iran believes in peace! Iran talks peace constantly. Iran is a Muslim country. The Koran states that it is okay to lie to an infidel. We are infidels. They are lying.
      Don’t worry about a nuclear war. Dear Leader has reduced our capacity, unilateraly, to approx. 1300 warheads. By next year at this time we will have exactly 0 warheads.
      This is called unilateral disarmament. It has never been tried before. I am currently learning Pashto, I’ll probably need it. Rosetta stone has a wonderful learning process for this language, you should learn it also.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:52pm

      Here’s the ATF in action:

      Waco, Rules of Engagement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTg7Y9YJXR4

      And guess what? The hole runs deeper. HOLDER worked for the ATF during the Waco incident, and JOE BIDEN conducted the congressional investigation!!!

      Guess who works for Obama now? Yep.

      Here’s another kicker:

      The Truth About The Ruby Ridge Massacre: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr94ELW701Q

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    • Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:11pm

      I wonder if I could got to an ATF auction and buy that .50cal rifle. I would give it a nice, safe home where no drug cartel member (or BATF stooge) could get to it. It would be a win-win. I get a rifle I have wanted for some time at a reduced rate, the government makes some money in the sale (to pay back the taxpayers for what they have stolen from us), and our border is a bit safer. Who could possibly have a problem with such a logical idea?

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:14pm

      @historyguy48

      It is funny to me that your name is historyguy and yet you obviously haven’t read anything about the colonization of the middle east for the past century. Ever since the fall of the Turks; other nations have been in their “sovereign” lands. Lands considered religious for them.
      You might also want to read up on Eisenhower staging a military coup through the CIA to topple Mosaddeq in Iran. We then provided the “pro-western” Shah with aircraft, tanks, and weapons. All was well and good until OPEC (1973-1974) quadrupled oil prices during an already weak U.S. economy. Bad news all around. Then enters Ayatollah Ruhullah Khomeini.
      Iran until this point had been the most stable of countries in the middle east while being colonized.
      Khomeini had other plans for radical change in the middle east. Khomeini took power in Iran and was P’d off. (Same as Egypt now; Fake pro-western ruler being overthrown).

      I didn’t enjoy reading this stuff but the only way to truly understand why they hate us is to read the history. (I WASN’T EVEN ALIVE FOR THIS STUFF)
      Iran also wanted to come to the table with both Bush and Clinton about the nukes but they refused the terms. Khatami wished for both admins to recognize the Islamic Republic and respect it’s sovereignty.
      We have been fiddling over there for the past century and it is about to come to an end. Either by WW3 or our country going completely broke. Thanks 48!

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    • mdman
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:23pm

      nobody is talking about Ron Paul

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    • Bum thrower
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:24pm

      ATF; if it opened as a store front, I’d shop there; got everything I need and want!!

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    • darkknight91
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Why stop with the ATF? Abolish the whole stinking government. It‘s clear these treasonous schlubs have sold us down the river and couldn’t care less what we think. The day is coming. Soon, very soon. Lock and load. It’s closer than you think.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:54pm

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      Allpro:
      You said:
      “Ron Paul would have let Iran develop a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it. ”
      He told the truth.
      What has Obama/ Clinton done? Posture.
      What did Bush 43/ Rice do? Posture.

      Obama doesn’t have the stones to do anything.
      Iran knows that.
      So what’s the difference?
      At least Paul told the truth.

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    • muffythetuffy
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:23pm

      I have the right to own anyone of those rifles or all of them. The US Constitution affirms that right and the Federal Government coerced me and other to swear to GOD that we would support and defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I was never relieved of that oath and the Federal Government has become a domestic enemy of us all.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:50pm

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      historyguy48
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:31pm

      Iran believes in peace! Iran talks peace constantly. Iran is a Muslim country. The Koran states that it is okay to lie to an infidel. We are infidels. They are lying.
      Don’t worry about a nuclear war. Dear Leader has reduced our capacity, unilateraly, to approx. 1300 warheads. By next year at this time we will have exactly 0 warheads.
      This is called unilateral disarmament. It has never been tried before. I am currently learning Pashto, I’ll probably need it. Rosetta stone has a wonderful learning process for this language, you should learn it also
      ****
      Read the Bible, especially II Chronicles 7:14! We humbly turn to God, WE WIN! Look into “Judges” and the story of Gideon’s Army, when we know we can’t do it ourselves, that’s when God Fights for us!

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:53pm

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      Wolfgang the Gray
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:11pm

      I wonder if I could got to an ATF auction and buy that .50cal rifle. I would give it a nice, safe home where no drug cartel member (or BATF stooge) could get to it. It would be a win-win. I get a rifle I have wanted for some time at a reduced rate, the government makes some money in the sale (to pay back the taxpayers for what they have stolen from us), and our border is a bit safer. Who could possibly have a problem with such a logical idea?
      ***
      Only possible if you’re a terrorist, drug Cartel or New Black Panther!

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    • Wolf
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:56pm

      THey’ll abolish and with a new name. BFD- it’s still going to be a pain in our side and wallets.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:57pm

      @darkknight91
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:36pm

      Re : Why stop with the ATF? Abolish the whole stinking government. It‘s clear these treasonous schlubs have sold us down the river and couldn’t care less what we think.
      ***
      This part REALLY NEEDS A “LIKE” BUTTON, FOR THE REST WE’RE STILL PRAYING!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:44pm

      Better get it abolished during Obama’s term….I dont think republican party will be in the mood if Romney gets elected

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    • LordChaos
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 1:16am

      I recommend reading “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross if you want to see how it can be done.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 5:29am

      @Colt

      I had never heard of the Ruby Ridge Massacre before.

      That story absolutely shocked me and, at a couple of points, almost brought tears to my eyes.

      I know I don’t need to say this to any here, but I’ll say it anyway:

      NEVER allow the First and Second Amendments to be attacked or altered in any way.

      To those who criticised Ice T (and I’m thinking of Mr Limbaugh especially) for saying that the 2nd Amendment was a defence against tyranny and a defence against the police, you should probably watch that video, too.

      Thank you, Colt, for that link.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 7:26am

      First off gun,alcohol,and tobacco are all legal. We don’t need a law enforcement agency who job it is to police our rights as citizens of the U.S. Their very existance is a sign of tyranny and government’s anti-constitutional agenda

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    • FatFreedom
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 2:22pm

      @All Pro Propagandist

      The USSR has thousands of nuclear warheads unaccounted for. So who is to say they don’t have one now? Sure they could duct tape a war head to a camel and chase him across the desert towards Israel.

      ATF = Brown shirts…..

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    • FatFreedom
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 2:29pm

      @colt1860

      Thanks for posting those links. Unfortunately most Americans will not take an hour to watch them, because it contains truth they can’t deal with.. The fact is that our government is turning into a Nazi like regime, and it has been in the making for some time.

      @NeoFan
      Thanks for having an honest name. NaziFan would suit you well also.

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    • Leon Harris
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 8:28pm

      I just don’t see how the US should be the one to regulate nuclear weapons, seeing how we are the only country that has ever used them in war. Granted Iran has a tyrannical government, but so do we.

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  • Thismachinekillslibs
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:52pm

    Least we forget Ruby Ridge, where an ATF sharpshooter shot and killed an unarmed woman holding her infant child and shot her son in the back along with his dog.ATF should have been gone along time ago.

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    • sillyfreshness
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:01pm

      Well after looking at the headline of this story, you can bet that the author of this article will be labeled a “home grown” terrorist. I’m sure they have a cell waiting for him at his local FEMA gulag. Martial law is just a short distance away.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:01pm

      THE DAY I saw this, I FOREVER became an Alex Jones fan. BALLS. Prophetic (“banktser buddies”).
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mNIgVb5aIo

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 11:57am

      @BWS you should watch the Alex Jones video where he attempts to incite a crowd of leftists to attack and kill Michelle Malkin. Yeah that Alex Jones is real saint. He also believes that 911 was an inside job and somehow has not been able to produce a single conspirator from the supposedly million or more that took part in the conspiracy. It says a lot about you that you are a fan of Alex Jones.

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  • Brother Winston Smith
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:50pm

    I’m a bit confused…
    A? 10th Amendment restricts this to the STATES.
    T? 10th Amendment restricts this to the STATES.
    F? 2nd Amendment restricts from infringement.

    DISSOLVE IT! NOW! NO MORE WACO!!!!! NO MORE RUBY RIDGE!!!! NO MORE GUN WALKER!!! NO MORE F&F!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Tree_Butcher
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:43pm

    “Brought to you by… The people that manage your Healthcare! Hammers for $500! Toilet seats for the low low price of $800!”

    Plus tax.
    Lots of Tax.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:06pm

      @Brother_Ed
      Re : darkknight91
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:36pm

      I still maintain that we need to vote Romney because he’s the house favorite (I learned in Vegas not to bet against the house!), but we also need to keep a close eye on him! That’s why I voted Tom Cruz today. Stack the Congress!
      ****
      Probably the ONLY reason a majority of American’s vote for Romney; HE IS THE FACE OF ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!
      Congrats on the Cruz Victory! (and the rest of TX upset of the establishment!)

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 12:10am

      @MIL MOM

      Thx.

      No time to rest! Let’s fire Obama & Reid!!

      I enjoy your posts – keep ‘em coming!

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    • lketchum
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 6:20am

      The $500.00 stores and $800.00 toiltes ned context.

      They are highly specialized devices worth every penny of their great costs. The toilet for example, is nearly silent and designed for use on our various nuclear submarines, where plumbing noises would othewise be detected.

      Other, seemingly silly things, like temp stable chapstick and stable aspirin, were first mocked and then ditched by VP Gore and President Clinton. VP Gore even went on the Letterman show and moke such DOD approved items. Clearly VP Gore had never humped a ruck when he was in the Army, because he would have known that off the shelf aspirin turns into fine powder after just a few miles bumping about in a ruck. Off the shelf chapstick turns into a stain on your field pants in a matter of hours. “MilSpec” equipment existed for a reason – reasons progressives more interested in scoring points in Hollywood than they are in equiping fighting men, seem to favor.

      Be careful about judging things about which all the details and facts may not be known, or published.

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  • justangry
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:41pm

    Heck yeah get rid of it. Take the DHS, and all other departments not authorized by the Constitution with it.

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    • JBaer
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:54pm

      Agreed!

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:21pm

      Note that Holder et al are throwing the lower level workers under the bus as a scapegoat.

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 8:24pm

      @JUSTANGRY

      Aren’t you the same guy that was accused of being a Lefty Troll on another post?

      I read that and laughed!!

      Thanks for the link (Remnant) that you gave me the other day; very good stuff!

      This election is going to be intense. The struggle is not between Obama and Romney (there will be little switching of sides now), but between Romney and Paul (or Romney and Paul’s ideas). He needs to answer some questions for us: Will he end unconstitutional programs? Will he close the border? Will he protect the 2nd amendment? And so on.

      I still maintain that we need to vote Romney because he’s the house favorite (I learned in Vegas not to bet against the house!), but we also need to keep a close eye on him! That’s why I voted Tom Cruz today. Stack the Congress!

      Thanks for the response on the other post. One daughter was in Cabo, so she couldn’t make it. My wife and youngest daughter had a great time!

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  • Tree_Butcher
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:40pm

    “Brought to you by… the people that Manage your Healthcare! Hammers for just $500! Toilet seats for the low cost of $800!”

    Plus Tax.
    Lots of Tax.

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  • Patrick Henry II
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:40pm

    As Ann Culter says “the ATF should be a conveniant store”

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:35pm

    It’s a great idea abolish that unnecessary and redundant unconstitutional department and throw in the IRS EPA DOE HUD Fannie & Freddie and I‘m sure there’s more unconstitutional departments we can do away with.

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    • dwilco77
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:59pm

      … the Fed, The Dept. of Education

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:08pm

      @progressiveslayer
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:35pm

      It’s a great idea abolish that unnecessary and redundant unconstitutional department and throw in the IRS EPA DOE HUD Fannie & Freddie and I‘m sure there’s more unconstitutional departments we can do away with.
      Ahhhhh!!!! WELL ON THE WAY TO A BALANCED BUDGET!!

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  • MCDAVE
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:30pm

    Send the fed back to their original job Provide for a National defense and promote interstate commerce like our founding fathers intended it to be..states rights should be stronger,

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    • justangry
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:41pm

      And PROTECT our freedoms.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:25pm

      You got that right MCDAVE,our founders were geniuses and over time our government rotted from within,primarily because of the sick twisted ideology of progressives that began their assault on our republic roughly a century ago.We confine this government to a small box,limit it’s power by reducing the money they extract from us and we have a chance to survive,otherwise we’re screwed.

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  • Aiser
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:24pm

    I would like to see Govt abolished completely and replaced with absolutely free-markets.

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  • WakingSheep
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:22pm

    I got it!
    Don’t abolish!
    Remove and replace! THAT WILL DEFINITELY WORK!

    BAAAAAA

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:13pm

      @WakingSheep
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:22pm

      I got it!
      Don’t abolish!
      Remove and replace! THAT WILL DEFINITELY WORK!

      BAAAAA
      ****
      I’m all for “Repeal nd Replace” of the entire republican establishment (nationwide!)

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  • Mountain Bear
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:22pm

    The ATF should be reined in to its original responsibilities. Leave investigations to FBI and tax collection to the Treasury Department

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:15pm

      @Mountain Bear
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:22pm

      The ATF should be reined in to its original responsibilities. Leave investigations to FBI and tax collection to the Treasury Department
      ***
      But were it’s original responsibilities Constitutional?

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  • Individualism
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:22pm

    Yes get rid of them we don’t need them, send them back to the military where they belong. fighters should be fighting not enforcing laws.

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  • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:21pm

    Wow, this is very telling. Yes Buck, I think we could get along better without the ATF agency and you are correct when you say the men and women that joined this agency did so with a patriotic spirit and I do label these people patriotic because if they just wanted a Government job I’m sure they could have found a much less dangerous one. And in that spirit why not just disolve the ATF and take those people and transfer them over to border & imigration.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:41pm

      Why stop at the ATF
      How about the dept of Education going back to the states
      How about abolishing the FeD
      How about the Homeland security at least the TSA – Privatize
      How about the EPA
      etc.

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  • WakingSheep
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:20pm

    And yet we didn’t go for the Constitutional candidate that talked about cuts…….

    We sure like to s*it in one hand and wish in the other……

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    • MAULEMALL
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:23pm

      Why would ANYONE listen to a guy who sleeps with Sheep???

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:29pm

      Why would anybody listen to a guy who mauls malls?

      huhuhuhhehehehehe

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:32pm

      I would try waking you but your obviously comatose…..
      Good night sleep tight little buddy…..

      BAAAAAA

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    • JUSTANOTHEROPINION
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:36pm

      Ron Paul would have let Iran develop a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it. That’s not hear say or conjecture, that’s fact, he said so himself. That’s the best reason we do not want him. He’s no longer an option. You people are as bad with this Paul issue as Obama is with blaming Bush. It’s done, move on.

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    • lel2007
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:36pm

      Dr. Ron Paul had his chance. He lost. Move on, Dr. Ron Paul surely will.

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on July 31, 2012 at 7:43pm

      @JUSTANOTHEROPINION

      It is never done. It is never over. It is not just about Ron Paul. It is not just about the Middle East.
      Are you giving up on the Constitution that easily? Romney laughed at the Constitution.
      Are you prepared for WW3? How else will we stop Iran? Where were the WMD’s in Iraq? We just “rebuilt” their nation remember?

      ———————–I forsee no reply (without name calling) from you in the future—————————–

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    • WakingSheep
      Posted on August 1, 2012 at 7:15am

      I wonder if I should try that with the lottery too….

      ———-I forsee winnings from the lottery in the future——–

      Then again the lottery isn’t as predictable……. :(

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  • republic2011
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:19pm

    Get rid of them and a few other unconstitutional agencies. Finding jobs for the good agents should not be hard. We could use more help on the border or in Chicago, where anti gun laws have made it a haven for real criminals (inclusive of politics). Seems there is a lot of work out there… Don’t need the ATF.

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  • Carol1955
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:19pm

    Most of the currant government agencies should be abolished. Absolutely disgusting, the amount of money wasted everyday. Just think of the money that would free up.

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  • Skrewedretiree
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:18pm

    Absolutely! Get rid of it! It’s another of those Roosevelt “New Deal” government agencies that has gone rogue and is now the New Gestapo. Let the States handle their own affairs and get these jack-booted thugs out of our lives!

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  • haveimissedsomething
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:17pm

    Alcohol, tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store!

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  • flatbroke
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:06pm

    awesome idea! we make our own alcohol, buy as many guns, and grow what we want! hemp to make clothes and rope.

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  • billrow
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:05pm

    I agree. Abolish this lying jack booted agency. They do nothing but target and harass makers and sellers of legitimate and legal products.

    People can regulate themselves. No one is going to sell smokes to a 5 year old or sell a gangbanger a gun. It is already illegal to do so. Businesses that engage in activities that run counter to the norms of society don’t last very long.

    We don’t need this heavy handed criminal agency planting evidence, commiting perjury against gun owners and engaging in gun running. With law enforcement like that, who needs criminals?

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  • stinkybisquit
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:05pm

    I agree. Instead of a “reset” button, We should send “CTRL ALT DEL” to D.C.

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  • Deibido
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:02pm

    Delete…. delete…delete.. and then go to the DHS and delete, delete, delete..then go to the Department of Education…delete, delete, delete…. then go to the IRS..delete, delete, delete…

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  • applehill
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 6:01pm

    I’m in support of shutting down any useless and wasteful government run agency. Lets shut down stupid agencies that are just redundancies. Homeland Security is one of them… So what do they do that the FBI and local law enforcement don’t do?

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  • Constructionist
    Posted on July 31, 2012 at 5:58pm

    The ATF should not be a federal agency…

    It should be a convenience store.

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