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Justice Scalia Rips Lawmakers as Being Sleepy and Lazy

WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is not the sort who leaves readers wondering what he really thinks, especially when it comes to members of Congress. In two opinions Thursday, Scalia disparaged lawmakers, not for the first time, as sleepy and lazy.

To be sure, the 75-year-old justice will just as eagerly take a shot — or two or three — at colleagues on the court who come out on the other side of cases.

Scalia has laid out an approach to the law over his quarter-century on the court that rests on the meaning of the Constitution as it was understood by the people who wrote it and on the plain language of laws, not the legislative record that accompanies many bills. He also embraces the view that people should turn to their elected officials, not the courts, to solve many problems.

Commenting in a case involving cocaine sentences, Scalia wrote briefly to criticize one part of Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s majority opinion that delved into legislative history. In particular, Scalia did not like that Sotomayor made reference to congressional testimony by a Yale medical school professor.

Scalia said the outcome of the case would be the same even if the professor “had not lectured an undetermined number of likely somnolent congressmen on the ‘damaging effects of cocaine smoking on people in Peru.’”

In the other case, he dissented from the court’s holding that upheld a longer sentence for a repeat offender whose earlier crimes included fleeing police custody in a vehicle.

The court has entertained several cases about what constitutes a violent felony under the Armed Career Criminal Act. The federal law makes defendants eligible for longer prison terms if they have three prior convictions for crimes that are either violent felonies or serious drug offenses.

The problem is that while the law names some violent crimes, it also leaves open to interpretation whether other offenses should qualify.

Scalia said Thursday he has had enough of these kinds of cases, which he said result from imprecise criminal laws written by Congress.

“Fuzzy, leave-the-details-to-be-sorted-out-by-the-courts legislation is attractive to the congressman who wants credit for addressing a national problem but does not have the time (or perhaps the votes) to grapple with the nitty-gritty,” Scalia wrote.

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  • ginpa
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:51am

    Justice Scalia should have kept going. Sleepy and lazy. yes. A few more, greedy, liers. perverts (some of who should be in jail), back stabers. Term limits are dripping from this Congress and the President. Hope we make it to 2012.

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  • Ira WIlson
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:50am

    @TOWER7FEMACAMP

    Talk your trash all you want, brother. I stand with Israel! There is no such earthling as a Palestinian, and there was never any talk about eradicating Arab women and children of suicide bombers. Get a real life!

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Is my post true ? if you can prove the facts are incorrect
      I will withdraw them.
      please use references and facts don’t just call me names.
      Please do your own research on the Talmud
      and mezizah
      http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm

      Either this True or it is a Lie
      if it is a Lie please prove it.

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  • conservativeme
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:31am

    You tell ‘em Judge!

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:31am

    Justice Scalia shows integrity. Unlike many.

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  • Outlaw_Josey_Wales
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:17am

    Justice Scalia Rips Lawmakers as Being Creepy and Cazy

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  • Ampleforth
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:16am

    The nation elected Nero. The problem is that we have 535 other little Neros in Congress.

    Also, this nation is addicted to symbolic leadership. So much legislation is symbolic or just a gesture toward a problem and none of it actually solves any of the problems. Usually, federal legislation exacerbates the problem.

    The other problem is that we’re a nation of Neros. It’s no wonder we elect them. Polls show that nearly a majority of American believe that another depression is less than 12 months away. Ha! The depression is upon us. First my 401(k)’s were destroyed (rebuilt only by funny money that is terribly inflationary). Then, the value of my real estate has been whittled away; meanwhile, the state and county governments, along with the county school board, continue to increase my property taxes. The school board does it through a vote. The county does it by always increasing the assessment of my property. My salary has been cut, and work I did on the side has disappeared.

    There’s a distinct possibility that I will lose my job later this year or next.

    I’ve worked for thirty years and built and saved and, at times scraped. My reward is economic policies formed by a socialist half-wit that are destroying my wealth. I’ve never been so frustrated in my life.

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    • I_can't_believe_this_stuff
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:09am

      Welcome to the club.
      I have always been in the producer ‘class’, not the entitlement class. Now that the other class is near 50% I have become a slave. And I will lose elections and have no incentive to remain a productive worker for my family and my country. The only thing to do, besides fighting a costly losing battle, is to move elsewhere. I have moved from NJ to OH but may move elsewhere, perhaps TX if they’ll have me. Failing that, Canada or elsewhere while the people here learn a valuable lesson their schools failed to teach them. It makes no sense to be a slave if you can escape. And when new immigration laws are passed, enlarging the entitlement class, and diluting my vote and my worth, and if I don’t do something about it, then I deserve the outcome. But I can’t stand still while that happens.

      I pledged allegiance to the USA and I served in the armed forces. I know what it feels like to be free. But I feel the US has sold me out, and is failing to uphold it’s obligation to me under the Bill of Rights. I feel less free with each government act. I know where this is going, and I don’t like it. And I can’t seem to stop it. I feel I’d do just about anything to leave this country to my children the way it was when I was a young. At least they’d be free.

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:07am

    Judge Scalia is totally correct. Congress is asleep at the wheel of the Titanic and so is the rest of America…when we hit the iceburg there will be many casualities.

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  • charles1540
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:06am

    AMEN no wonder this country is headed for the ash hep of history. Politicians are lazy and interested in one thing getting their sorry asses re-elected. The latest caught sending lewd photos and what do the people in his district think 54% say he should not resigned. Is it any wonder we are in the mess we are in and daily it only get worse.

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:59am

    Time the Supreme Court quickly review the laws passed and decide something in a concrete manner, Abortion, Health Care, Illegal Aliens so on and so on, seems the pot is calling the kettle black.

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  • mikenleeds
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:59am

    all government workers are lazy,sleepy,obese and way overpaid….anyone that has been to the dmv already knows this

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  • ronaldreaganthegreat
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:55am

    Touche Justice Scalia! He’s right in saying this. I would’ve been more blunt though, like saying they don’t know what they are doing and the consequences of their idiocy!!

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:39am

    Fuzzy Legislation! Didn’t Nancy Pelosi tell us, “You have to pass the law, to find out what’s in the law.” With this 14.4 trillion dollar deficit, VP Biden has only met 5 times since returning from recess on may 2nd. Besides fuzzy legislation, there’s also no legislation at all.

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  • Rightguy503
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:38am

    This guy is way too smart to be on THIS court. The problem is ‘we the people’ can’t afford to lose him.

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  • chdorb
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:49am

    Thank you, Cheezwhiz and thank you Justice Scalia.

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  • beerios
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:37am

    Way to get your word on, Illuminoddy. You’ll be sleeping til July.

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  • Annie Fields
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 5:17am

    I have just one reaction to this supreme Supreme… What are you wearing? C’mere sugar ;)

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 5:07am

    He is right that they are lazy and are worried about votes come election time. This is a great case for term limits. Don’t cha think??

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  • Glenn is my hero
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:47am

    @Cheezwhiz
    Love your post!!! How true!!

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  • illuminoddy
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:23am

    yet he believes its still important for the supreme court of the United States to decide what should constitute a felony in each state

    that should be State Law, based on State Needs, and Popular Majority opinion

    just as every state and each community has its own policing style, Watchmen, Legalistic, Service, etc.. based on the needs of the community, because not all people can live in all types of systems, Watchmen would make most Middle Class and Reform-minded, mixed socio-economic cities in America cringe and boycott police for being ineffective and lazy, whereas Legalistic style seems like Nazi Germany to the majority of Blue Collar, mixed racial cities, counties, and states, and Service-oriented Policing Styles would seem like an ineffectual lawless easy to exploit naive city to most anyone but homogenous middle-class communities

    so too should each state create laws for felonies and rules for criminals base on the needs of the communities within that state, taking into account economic, cultural, social, and other important factors

    the supreme courts makes life in America unbearable for most of Americas citizens, and it should be limited in ts power to only those very few things which involve each states government, rather than the lives of each and every citizen in every community in America

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    • illuminoddy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:33am

      anyone working in the federal government has a god-complex

      they know how things work in one or two cities, in one or two states, then they get into the federal government and then what happens? they look at a MAP of the United States? and make all their rules and policies based on their “feeling” and “Gut Instinct” or “opinion” or the “general Vibe” they get from it based on the sound of its name, the shape of its borders, and gist of the citis placement within that state?

      and then they make laws that are good for harlem, their home town, and THE REST OF AMERICA, because they think thats the Federal Governments job, and thats why they are there

      There should be nobody under the age of 50 in the Federal Government, and each person should have lived for no less than one year in Each of the States in America before even being considered for a position which affects the laws in every state in America

      or they can just go back to what they were created and intended to do, and deal with matters of Federal, National, and international significance, which cannot be handled by the individual States

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    • illuminoddy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:38am

      if you break a law in one state, you should be extradited back to that state.

      the only real federal body America needs is the U.S. Marshals, and their main job should be taking people back across state lines to the town of their crimes origin

      the FBI can help with that.

      and thats about as far as federal involvement should get

      make it a crime to transport any criminal across state boundaries, or for any criminal to cross state boundaries, much like the White Slave Act of 1908, or 1910 or whatever.. which was the first real job of the FBI

      make state border crossings stricter, and make everyone present a State-Passport which holds their criminal information in it, before being allowed to exit any state or enter another

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    • illuminoddy
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:00am

      and each american citizen should get a “State-Side-Passport” for the state of their birth only, and get a visa to whichever states they are visiting, at the border, as a free stamp, or a paid stamp, let that be state-controlled

      you could then apply for a passport in another state if you intended to immigrate there permanently, and perhaps some states would not allow immigration, and only allow permanent residence permits, or whatever, based on the individual states laws and legislation

      each out-of-state visitor would go through a background check, receive an “all-clear’ and be registered with the state as to where they are living or staying, should they need to be extradited for suspicion of a crime in their home state

      each state could make its own policies about whether to employ out-of-staters, or not, and how they are employed, what visa they get, etc..

      each state could then once again be how they were originally intended to be

      independent.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:20am

      laws Should be left to the states! also counties, the more local the better!

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:21am

    Who would be stupid enough to ever elect another Democrat to Congress. The previous Congress, which was majority Democrat in both the House and Senate, were too busy “tweeting” to come up with a budget. The House, which is now majority Republican, came up with a budget, but alas, the Senate which is still majority Democrat, STILL can’t come up with a budget. President Obama’s budget lost, both in the Senate and House.

    Is it true that Democrats are economically challenged?

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  • Johnny1943
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:20am

    @CHEEZWHIZ

    I second everything in your appropriate post!!!!!!

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  • saviorammo
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:02am

    Worse than lazy. They are all guilty of dereliction of duty! They have actively undermined our rights endowed by our creator. So has the Supreme Court by overstretching their authority, judicial review.

    Burn it all down.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:39am

      Do you think for a moment, any of them remember the Oath to
      uphold The Constitution ??? Total abuse of Power leads to
      curruption..Term Limits !! and eliminate their Full Pay on leaving
      office..Let them live on SS like the rest of us..Without term limits
      you get, Rangel, Pelosi , Boxer, Waters, ant the list goes on and on !
      Just a bunch of corrupt leaches, Most of them have been lying to
      us for so long, They believe their own Bullshi***..
      Like Pelosi promised, “Drain The Swamp” starting with HER !!!

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  • grannyjojo
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:01am

    Whoa, I certainly agree with alot that he said, not everything but alot. I like what he has to say and thinks about the Constitution and the laziness of our politicians. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:58am

    “Fuzzy, leave-the-details-to-be-sorted-out-by-the-courts legislation is attractive to the congressman who wants credit for addressing a national problem ”

    Replace courts with regulators and congressman with President. Just as true.

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:49am

    I don’t see anything to comment on. Someone else take a shot it please.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:53am

      They are too busy tweeting to do their jobs … at least SOME of them seem to be. Remember we have to pass the bill to know what is in it … I agree with him .. they are lazy.

      TEA!

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    • AMERICA4EVER
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:54am

      Asleep at the wheel and still in the ditch.

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    • jeffyfreezone
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:06am

      I suffer from beautiful mind envy. Scalia is SO THE MAN!

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:08am

      “Fuzzy, leave-the-details-to-be-sorted-out-by-the-courts legislation is attractive to the congressman who wants credit for addressing a national problem but does not have the time (or perhaps the votes) to grapple with the nitty-gritty,” Scalia wrote.
      —————
      Hey Mr Justice Scalia, do you have any frikin idea how busy a congressman is ?
      He/she has to collect kickbacks, track lobbyists, beg donors, raise funds, smile for camera, prowl for young women online, shave and take pics of their junk, travel to and fro from DC and resorts all over the world and call it “ congressional delegation ”, read speeches, put themselves out there for horsetrading , tweet like silly teenagers, act as if they care for their constituents, pass bills (written by Sor@$$ servants) so that we can find out whats in it , go on TV and furthur enhace their jack@$$ status, find ways to destroy our country, look out for our enemies….you still want me to go on Mr Justice…sheesh . You still want them to be dedicated towards lawmaking ? They have to pass a law because they don’t have 2 days and 2 lawyers to read it to them What do you think these people are ? Lawmakers ?
      :O

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    • seeker9
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:15am

      It is the dumbing down of America. Where else could an idiot that thinks Guam might capsize get elected as a law-maker?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:40am

      In particular, Scalia did not like that Sotomayor made reference to congressional testimony by a Yale medical school professor.
      ———-
      J-Lo is the wise Latina don’t you know ?
      She is the only one who believes that policy is made in courts.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:43am

      Do you think the members of Congress will even hear about this?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 1:51am

      Thatsitivehadenough
      Do you think the members of Congress will even hear about this?
      ————–
      They will when some Sore@$$ funded outfit sends it to their inbox.
      Then they will be all in “ we demand respect ” mode

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    • Exrepublisheep
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 2:26am

      @cheezewhiz You’re not wrong here. I will have to dig deeper to find out why you were right. This cannot be allowed.

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    • Jediusetheforce
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:54am

      Its the end of the world what do you expect. The top earners in this country of _____ get paid to much for what they are actually worth…Its over, Enjoy the ride.

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    • colonial10
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 3:58am

      I will take a shot. If Sonia Sotomayor ever becomes the head of our Supreme court kiss our Constitution good bye. If you watched her nomination she says she does not believe fully in the Constitution and God as it’s director. Even if people do not believe in the later or God we should all be concerned because when she takes over, evil will be called good and good, evil. It’s our Constitution that is in real serious danger. Scalia seems to understand the law well. Once the Conservative voice is gone, so is reason.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 5:48am

      Talmud Institute for US Lawyers Applauded by Justices
      The Institute‘s founder’s dinner was attended by three of its supporters on the Supreme Court– the Court’s two Zionist justices appointed by Bill Clinton, and Ronald Reagan’s supposed, “stalwart conservative of sterling integrity,” Antonin Scalia. But in a Supreme Court case a few years ago, Justice Scalia voted in favor of having a Talmudic religious school operated at taxpayer expense in Monsey, New York. He cited his awe of rabbis and of the cult of Holocaustianity in reaching his decision, which the majority of the court rejected.
      The National Institute for Judaic Law is being “established” by Nathan Lewin. Justice Scalia and President Bush know who Nathan Lewin is. He is the infamous Zionist lawyer who earlier this year advocated the “total eradication” of the wives, mothers and children of accused Palestinian suicide bombers Now we observe the formation of a Talmudic school for American judges and lawyers in our nation’s capitol, established by an advocate of the murder of Arab women and children. Here is further evidence that Judaism is becoming the de facto state religion of America, a nation founded to prevent sectarian Old World hatreds and prejudices from infecting the Federal government, and there is no meaningful resistance to this deadly treason http://100777.com/node/310

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 5:49am

      rothschilds

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    • drbage
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:04am

      Not only asleep at the wheel, but also driving(or being driven) into the ditch of irrelevance if the O and his cronies have their way.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:15am

      I would have to agree with Justice Scalia, especially the ones in the top positions. The leader is sure setting an example for the rest of the crew, isn’t he?

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:23am

      He mentioned the bull ****, sotofatso, quoting from other than the law????? great choice obozo.

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    • BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:37am

      @ tower7femacamp

      I always find it amusing when I hear someone commenting on “Zionists” and Judiasm who uses a HITLER icon as their choice of logo before their name. I’m just sayin. It’s just that the icon reminds me of just how loving and accepting people can be towards the Jewish people……just like Hitler was. Hey maybe the reason you have that icon is not because you respect Hitler, but rather want to bring attention to the fact that he was one of the most evil human beings to ever have existed on the face of the earth.

      “THE TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA !!!” – Glenn Beck

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    • CaptainKook
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:53am

      Scalia has a point.

      Our criminal drug laws exist in a Constitutionally contradictory twilight zone – nothing in the Constitution gives the Fedral government any authority to forbid personal drug use – that was the reason Prohibition had to be imposed by Constitutional amendment. That Amendment was repealed – rather quickly in terms of the usual durability of Amendments – and with it went any claim of such authority.

      So ever since an earlier SCOTUS threw out the “Marijuana Tax Act of 1937” in 1969 and Congress reacted by passing the equally unConstitutional Controlled Substances Act, the SCOTUS has gone along with maintaining one of the most corrupt of all Federal agencies – the DEA, which operates WITHOUT Constitutional authority against the rights of Americans.

      Unfortunately, Scalia has been one of those Justices who has long gone along with that.

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    • Edct
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:08am

      In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of
      Edinborough, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some
      2,000 years prior:

      “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
      permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until
      the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts
      from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for
      the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with
      the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal
      policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

      “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of
      history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations
      always progressed through the following sequence:

      From bondage to spiritual faith;
      From spiritual faith to great courage;
      From courage to liberty;
      From liberty to abundance;
      From abundance to complacency;
      From complacency to apathy;
      From apathy to dependence;
      From dependence back into bondage.”
      The Obituary follows:

      Born 1776, Died 2008
      It won’t hurt to read this several times.

      Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul,
      Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the last
      Presidential election:

      Number of States won by: Obama:

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    • IvanK
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:18am

      TOO much partying going on after hours at liberal social functions… Have you ever been to a retirement home the day after the “big party”? There you go!

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    • CaptainKook
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:24am

      @ Edct
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:08am

      That phony internet legend has been debunked many times.

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp

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    • kreese
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:28am

      He forgot to say–stupid, corrupt……..

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    • barak hussein osama arafat
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:45am

      He is spot on.
      The only effort they make is to get elected, and then steal tax dollars.
      Just a few, like Paul Ryan, Issa, Bachmann, Peter King, West actually work hard
      for the nation.
      btw ron paul is a liberal POS.

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    • ConsiderThis
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:50am

      How many actually read through the the Obama Care legislation before voting?

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    • CaptainKook
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:21am

      ConsiderThis
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:50am
      How many actually read through the the Obama Care legislation before voting?

      The Republicans read every word of the loopholes and amendments that were handed to them by insurance lobbyists and that were added to the insurance reform bill – [aka "Obamacare"]

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    • StrangernFiction
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:32am

      Justice Scalia just doesn’t get it. You have to pass the law to find out what’s in it.

      RIP USA

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 11:12am

      ^____^____^
      I’ll say this.. pray for the health and safety of those conservatives in SCOTUS. We cannot afford another BHO appointment to this body esp after Kagan, no legit experience IMO to be a judge, getting selected.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 12:37pm

      Law makers are trying to justify their job by making more rules and regulations than are needed or necessary. They should be able to take care of the nations need in two weeks or less and then go home to a real JOB working WITH the people in their district.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 4:28pm

      Scalia nailed it. It’s easy for congressmen to “pass a law” without any details nailed down. Look at Obamacare.

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    • wildbill_b
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 4:46pm

      @CaptianKook “The Republicans read every word of the loopholes and amendments that were handed to them by insurance lobbyists and that were added to the insurance reform bill – [aka "Obamacare"]

      You might want to occasionally learn at least something about the subject matter before you start your juvenile tirades.
      “The PPACA (Obama Care) passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a filibuster-proof vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and Independents voting for, and **all Republicans voting against**.
      If we assume your claims are correct and they DID read every bit of it, maybe that is why they all voted NO. What do you think? I think you are just a sadly little person who needs a place to act like a big boy and cuss and talk **** where mommy won’t bust his ass. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
      They are quite open about it: “John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of House Judiciary Committee) who explained some time ago why this makes perfect sense. He said, “I love these members [Republican representatives], they get up and say, ‘Read the bill’. What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”
      Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT)“I don’t think you want me to waste my time to read every page of the health care bill. You know why? ***It’s statutory language***,” Baucus said. “We hire experts.”

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    • CaptainKook
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 6:04pm

      @ wildbill_b
      Yes, the Republicans voted against the Bill that included most of the amendments they demanded after they dragged the process out for months to force the Democrats to include them.

      That was their strategy of obstruction that also included the record numbers of filibusters they mounted to intefere in any way possible with the business of Congress, which they did successfully before then going to the mdia to cvomplain that they had been shut out of the process and that the Democrats couldn’t get anything done.

      Like the 2011 Budget that was procedured to death in the Fall of 2010 – the Republicans made it impossible to bring a Budget to the floor, then – and to this day – claimed that the Dems simply refused to bring a budget.

      Now they want to impose a nihilistic campaign of ideological attacks on the US government tailored to suit the wishlists of their corporate owners instead of doing one damned thing to serve the American people at large.
      .

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 7:11pm

      Have great admiration for Justice Scalia. He is and has always been the strongest Constitutionalist on the Bench – C. Thomas is a close 2nd

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      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 8:25pm

      @paperpushermj – “I don’t see anything to comment on. Someone else take a shot it please.”

      Didn’t YOU read the title? BEING SLEEPY AND LAZY?!

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    • Dale
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:35pm

      paperpushermj
      I don’t see anything to comment on. Someone else take a shot it please.
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      Alright, we get it: FIRST! Why not let someone with something worthwhile begin the discussion.

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    • doc glenn
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 9:41pm

      That should make the bill unconstitutional right their because they admit they did not read it and in order to pass it they needed to read it

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    • dumboldcontractor
      Posted on June 10, 2011 at 10:38pm

      They are too busy writing laws for the sole purpose of buying votes to worry about what is in them.”we’ll have to pass it to know whats in it”

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    • suz
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 3:18am

      catb, they weren‘t lazy when they didn’t read that bill — they were/are corrupt. they know their jobs, they just don’t do their jobs. pelosi leads the way with “let‘s pass it so we can see what’s in it.” she knew goddam well what the bill is — it is a stepping stone to single payer.

      intentionally collapsing the dollar/economy;
      intentionally collapsing the moral fiber of our society aka socialism, etc.;
      intentionally pitting us against each other aka class warfare…

      …these things are not lazy — they are evil to our republic.

      …oh and yes, they’re lazy too.

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    • Longshot35
      Posted on June 11, 2011 at 5:09am

      So why did you comment then? Perhaps Narcism?

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