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Karl Rove Updates Electoral Prediction: North Carolina and Indiana Are ‘Gone’ for Obama, Wisconsin a ‘Battleground’ State

Republican strategist Karl Rove said Friday he believes North Carolina and Indiana are “gone” for President Barack Obama in November and that Wisconsin has become a “battleground” state.

“I think North Carolina is gone just like Indiana is gone. Obama has no chance to win them,” Rove told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. “I think Ohio and Florida are leaning today towards Romney. I think places like Iowa and Colorado are in danger of floating into the Republican column. And states like Nevada and Pennsylvania are moving from lean Democrat into toss-up category. And on June 5th, mark my words, we will have more poll data than we got today that is going to show that Wisconsin’s a battleground state.”

Rove debuted an electoral map last month that predicted Obama would win in an Election Day match-up with presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

The current map, set to be updated every few weeks, shows Romney has since made some electoral gains but has not been updated with Rove’s latest calls.

Karl Rove 2012 Electoral Prediction: North Carolina and Indiana Gone for Obama, Wisconsin a Battleground State

Karl Rove's electoral college prediction map as of May 10, 2012. (Image source: rove.com)

(h/t Gateway Pundit)

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  • AnAmerican111
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:56am

    Hard to believe there are so many stupid morons in this Country that will vote for OBUMA………………….
    then again I guess you just have to look at the “occupiers” and it about says it all!

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    • GOTAREVOLUTION
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:54am

      Just watched an update from the camp david meeting. Does any one
      notice when o‘scamster talks without a teleprompter he’s lost.
      It was a 2 minute update and he said umm between every 3 words.
      The world is laughing and America is crying. Even children caught
      in a lie dont say umm every 3 words. This POS is not only a
      chronic liar he is a coward. Most bullies Ive met in life are.
      Hes the host of this fine circle of posers yet he cant hide his
      laughter at the American public. Ummm, Ummm and I think that
      Ummm I mean Ummm. All of these cowards world wide are evil and they
      have sold there souls out to get where they are and all they can
      do is smirk and say ummm. Ya Im screwing you and umm I dont
      want you to notice and ummm your to stupid and umm. May God save
      your soul and may God bless America

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    • TomSawyer
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:58am

      I agree. But I think it is more of the effect of what people are hearing. They are listening to the news on TV and getting a filtered message. I re-watched a GBTV episode from a couple of weeks ago about communist goals of taking over America. I think that Beck nailed it with that show. They have gone into every influencing institution in a deliberate way and are restructuring our society. America has lost important foundational principles that are difficult to recover.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:59pm

      Remember… the Alamo!

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    • Laken
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:10pm

      Petition…

      http://www.wnd.com/wnd_petition/petition-urging-congress-to-investigate-obamas-eligibility/

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    • jtmfc
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:02pm

      North Carolina, was recently exposed by the young man who was instrumental in outing Acorn, and their duplicity in giving advice on how to con the system. Young Mr O’Keefe went to the state with a few others, and found the poll workers eager to allow them to vote without any form of ID. The young team also found the names of numerous deceased people still on the voting list, as well as some illegals. This flies in the face of US Attorney General Bolder— oops Holder,who claims no evidence of fraud exists, even though there were many charges that were swept under the rug after the 2008 election. I guess it depends to Bolder which party benefits from the fraud.

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    • epicwinofgod
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:05pm

      This election will not be won with votes

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    • Michelle44
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:30pm

      People can’t see the ( perverbial) forrest through the trees so to speak.. some people are just plain STUPID,,

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    • BWH
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:03pm

      Everyone lists Virginia as a toss-up, but I don’t think so, and here is why. I live in VA and traditionally the coal fields of southwest VA have voted Democrat because they a union members. However, this year, the fact that Obama and the Dems want to basically eliminate heir jobs. And this will trump what the union bosses want.

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    • ChevalierdeJohnstone
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:44pm

      Many Obama voters are not stupid, they are merely short-term focused and selfish. Like FDR, Obama has engaged in widespread economic handouts for those who are willing to have their votes bought by him. Just as during the Depression, this is an excellent tactic in a bad economy. Obama’s policies have directly increased the numbers on food stamps and other government assistance programs. These people are scared and thus they support Obama for fear that they will lose access to these programs. Voting for Obama is economically advantageous for them in the near term.

      The solution, is Glenn Beck has consistently represented, is that we need to come together as communities to take care of each other so that people are not dependent on “Obama money”. Rather than treat liberals as the enemy, we need to train them to be self-reliant but also to trust in God and their neighbors when times are bad – not the Feds.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:49pm

      I have been trying to tell everyone that Romney cannot win against Obama, but nobody listens on here. If you guy’s could stop listening to the MSM talking their crap about Paul and research him on the http://www.dailypaul.com/ you would understand that Paul would beat Obama by a landslide as he would have Dems that would vote for him. Dems, even though they are disenfranchised with Obama, will not vote for someone like Romney that is all over the board on all the issues. Go ahead and nominate Romney, he will not win and he will lose a lot of Independents, Paul supporters and the youth vote. The Dem youth that are looking at Paul will definately not vote Romney, the new Repub youth that are fervent for Paul, will not vote for Romney. heII, I have been a Republican for 36 years and I will not vote for Romney. You guy’s need to stop looking for the smooth talker that speaks out of both sides of his mouth, that cannot win. Quit picking losers to run on GOP tickets.
      Obama and Romney are pretty much the same, but modern day Repubs cannot elect him on their own.
      http://www.fox19.com/story/18430692/reality-check-obama-and-romney-have-both-been-on-both-sides-of-same-sex-marriage

      http://www.fox19.com/story/17096680/reality-check-fact-checking-mitt-romneys-budget-plan

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    • shirleyandpearl
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:02pm

      Washington State would be red, if it weren’t for the heavy population in King Co… Seattle area. Per square mile, it’s conservative. I always liked Alaska! We have had repeats of Patty Murray and McDermott for years and years now. Seattle is about as leftist as San Francisco. This state is also in fiscal deep doo-doo, like California.

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    • BrotherWill
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:17pm

      Actually, I think Rove is a stupid moron if he thinks theres that many stupid people in the country. POLLS DONT TELL YOU CRAP.

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    • Mr.Fitnah
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:44pm

      Go to walmart and sit on a bench near the check out lines.
      More than half the people are on the dole, and they want to stay on it .

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    • Tankertony
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:08pm

      This will be a landslide election on the scale of the Reagan elections. Had Sarah Palin run, even more so.

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    • earl33
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:13pm

      The man(?) never could string three words together without his telprompter

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:59pm

      Tanker, Paul would get a landslide victory over Obama. He would pull votes from all Independents, Tea Party, he would get the majority of Republicans (anyone but Obama crowd), He would pull the fervent yout vote (they love Paul), and he would pull the disenfranchised Dems. I believe he would win with 65-70% of the vote for sure. GOP’rs are blindly following the establishment media pundits for the establishment who do not want Paul because he would take their power and give it back to the people. Romney cannot win as he would lose all but the GOP (anyone but Obama crowd).

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    • gr29az
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 9:12am

      can you say ‘bell curve’

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    • F_This
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 10:26am

      It‘s because the POS people in this country that are lazy and don’t want to do any work and expect the government to pay for their lives have grown by the millions. The low class blacks and whites just keep on producing children with the same mentality.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 2:30pm

      So many Americans are illiterate – and these are the targets of the Demoncrats.

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    • dimi64
      Posted on May 26, 2012 at 11:16pm

      Sorry to disappoint you. Obama will win in a landslide against the robotic Romney. Is this your best candidate you can get? Pathetic. Where is your Ronald Reagan?

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:54am

    if Obama gets re-elected, alaska looks like a good place to move to. when the crap hits the fan here in the east the people in alaska will hardly notice.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:02pm

      To close to the Russian’s… I think I would pass on Alaska!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:05pm

      You are kidding… right?

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    • Skytrash
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:45pm

      I am an Alaskan and after having grown up in Massachusetts and seeing what the left has done there, I’ll never leave this state!! I may not be able to see Russia from my house but I sure as hell can see 2012!!!

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    • prado
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:02pm

      Alaska would be great! Everybody gets a handout ever year taken from the oil companies sent to them from the state government!

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:22pm

      Skytrash
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:45pm

      I am an Alaskan and after having grown up in Massachusetts and seeing what the left has done there, I’ll never leave this state!! I may not be able to see Russia from my house but I sure as hell can see 2012!!!

      __________
      Hello???? Alaska elected one of the biggest RINOs EVER – Murkowskiy!!! For that alone, Alaska has no right to criticize Massachusetts.

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    • gjbare
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:11pm

      I sure hope that Rove is right. It still scares me to think there is so much fraud going on at the poling places around the country. There should be guards at all of the Poling areas.

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 10:07am

      What I thought some of you were all up on the secret FEMA camps and all the NWO stuff that was going around…

      don’t you know that Alaska has already been given back to Russia in exchange for their help with Iran and not invading the USA once Obama collapses our economy? what do you think he was tell Medvdev about plans after his reelection?

      don’t you know that China has been given the Gulf of Mexico? why do you think we still are not drilling there after the BP accident? they tell you that China has deals with Cuba but China is horizontal drilling from outside US waters into US oil reserves and Obama does nothing about it… after the election, the Chinese Oil companie will just move in and start openly taking our oil…

      this is all in response to Russia and China stopping the US dollar from being the reserve currency… this is the deal we cut with them…they get our oil and the world still thinks the US dollar is the reserve…it is all a lie…because the dollar is worthless… END the FED…return to the gold standard..

      only Dr. Ron Paul can save us…

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    • gr29az
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 10:21am

      az is always looking for more conservatives that believe in the 2nd amend

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    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 12:09pm

      “Only Ron Paul can save us” LOL at you, no president can save you, that’s up to you, quit thinking a man can save you, that’s your first mistake and a bad one. I‘m already saved and I’m prepping to save as many more as possible WTSHTF.

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    • orll
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 8:14pm

      I’ve lived there, and it is cold, and dark for about 6 months of the year. I loved it. but when we left and hit the Farmers Market in Seattle we were drunk on fresh fruit. it is a different way to live.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:50am

    Add your comments

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:33pm

      Look at the County Faith Map: Texas is looking pretty Good!

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  • doomytram
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:48am

    Wisconsin has been a Soros (Media Matters) war zone for years now. They ridiculous leftist’s within Obama / Axelrod created Occupy in response to the Tea Party and Scott Walker.

    Thank goodness, the Leftist’s are losing all of their battles with the Right. For example, Wisconsin is getting back on track to fiscal sanity, but Illinois if it had to stand alone would have a lower credit rating than Greece.

    All of the Battle Ground States are gone for the disastrous Oblamer, and his Obamunist’s are starting to understand this shift. Therefore Soros, Axelrod, Disastrous O et al. are going to try to steal the election through the electoral college and mass voter fraud. The Right must stop the fraud, or some conjured up illegal aliens that are actually residing in May-he-co, along with dead folks, and Minnie Mouse will allow the fraud to give the disaster another chance to take over as a new dictator.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:16pm

      You bet they’ll try to steal it. Someone needs to make certain that they can’t. Someone needs to get hold of the voter registration list and check it for dead democrats.

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    • Bucknutpete
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:54pm

      Take note, the Teaparty is the new silent majority. We/they will be out in force come election day1

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:35pm

      well the way i look at it we on the right can vote that same way also

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    • bdsconserv
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:10pm

      and from what i’ve read, a soros owned company in spain has been awarded (?) the right to count the tabulations in 26 states. how’s that for fraud!?

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  • TWO BITS
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:46am

    An analyst from Suffolk University was on Cavuto’s program a couple of days ago, and unfortunately he has the race coming down to Virginia and Colorado. If Obama takes both, he wins. Yuk!

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    • theotherken
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:15am

      After electing a Republican Governor in 2010, it seems doubtful that the Democrats will win Virginia in 2012, possible, but doubtful.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:12pm

      Being a Virginian by residence, I can say that all the fiscal and social conservatives in VA are extremely pissed at our Republican Governor and Attorney General. The Governor refused to sign the bill that would have thwarted the NDAA bill until we beat him over the head; and, both the Governor and AG have steadfastly refused to pursue the “unindicted co-conspirators” from the HLF terror trial who work / reside in VA. The AG actively ran political interference for a candidate sponsored by the MB for a delegate seat.

      Saudi campaign cash is alive and well in VA!

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:45am

    hillary wants the popular vote because she HATES THE REPUBLIC just like obama and the rest of the liberals, progressives, commies. they all want us to be a democracy just like in europe or africa. wow the enemies of the REPUBLIC are running our country. running it into the ground.

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  • blaze2453
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:45am

    This chart is BS. Obama will only take California, NY, Oregon and Washington State.

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    • Barbara2C
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:24pm

      I hope you are right. Doing my best in Colorado to get the word out, but there are a lot of people who seem to have cognitive disability from the thin air.

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    • SELECT
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:45pm

      i’m with you brother!!!!

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    • bobbiejean
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:02pm

      @Blaze2453 I certainly hope you are right and Obama will only get those four states. But, if it’s true
      and he has a ”buddy” in SPAIN(!) who will be overseeing the counting of votes in that nation, then it
      really doesn‘t matter how many states don’t vote for him, does it?

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    • mmabri
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:18pm

      I hope your right. I really do. But He’ll take the Northeast for sure. Way to many libs live there, and then you have states like PA that have a conservative population in the country, but are outnumbered by the libs in Phili

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    • majasdad
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Ha ha! I’d do anything to see the look on your face come November when you discover just how wrong you were.

      Hint: Google “The Scream” by Edvard Munch.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:01pm

      majasdad

      Get a Clue. Read Foundation by Isaac Asimov.

      Also read Zero Hedge. There is an article there about gutless pols promising to people what is not actuarially feasible to get elected & the pols & many voters (Democrats & Republicans) know it.

      If you vote for a train wreck (bread & circuses), which circle of Dante’s HeII do you belong in?

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    • majasdad
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 3:41am

      @WALKABOUT
      It pleases me no end that you’re a literate man, unlike many here who have read little more than the simpler Bible passages and the occasional gun instruction manual, but I was talking about a painting. It’s cool – check it out and you’ll understand my comment to Blaze2453.

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  • cykonas
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:36am

    Don’t forget to support and donate to the House and Senate candidates if they are up for election/reelection in your state. These races are almost as important, maybe more so this time around, as the Presidential race.

    If Obama does win reelection we need to make sure the House retains a majority of opposition and the Senate gains a majority. I hope this doesn‘t come into play as I don’t want to see Obama reelected, but we can’t forget or forgo a Plan B.

    If Romney is elected then he needs the majorities in both chambers to make sure he can get off to a fast start of turning the ship. I am still not convinced that Romney is our best option, but it‘s apparent he is going to be the option so it’s up to those of us that feel the ship needs to turn, and quickly, to give him the congressional support that he’s going to need. Peace.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:48am

      So you think if Romney has a republican congress he will undo all the things obama did? LOL

      If Republicans sweep in there – the first mission is to keep power. Did you hear about the republican plan to keep parts of obamacare even if the supreme court strikes it down? wake up

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:13am

      @soybomb315
      I can assure you that I am wide awake sir/madam. What I think is exactly what I said. With every election there are certain realities that are never perfect. Romney, in my opinion, is far from perfect as a candidate. I would have preferred Ron Paul, but he isn’t viable for a number of reasons.

      Many of the R’s in Congress now, and some that are up for reelection/election aren’t perfect either. Hopefully we see some newbies get elected this time around that resemble many of the freshmen class of ‘10; that is to say, with a more Constitutional Fidelity/Tea Party orientation.

      My point is simply that if one is going to get behind Romney, with all his blemishes, then one should also work hard to ensure that he has a favorable composition in both the Senate and the House. That way if he doesn‘t work to undo the harm of the last four years he can’t use the excuse that he was blocked by Congress and we can deal with him in 2016.

      I’ve been voting now for 36 years; since Carter/Ford. Everything will not change as the result of one election. I won’t insult you by telling you to wake up. I will tell you that it generally makes sense to have a longer term perspective, a Plan B (and maybe C,D, and E) and an exit strategy. Peace.

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    • DSTSS2010
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:51am

      If Obama wins, Congress becomes irrelevant. He will bypass Congress and regulate us all into oblivion.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:52pm

      @cykonas

      Its not a terrible idea – it is noble. But it is also naive and flies in the face of history. No political party in the history of America has been ‘reigned’ in once they got power. Every single time, the party gets drunk on power and makes the country worse. Imagine if republicans get every position they wanted – do you think they would risk their dominance in order to fix social security or eliminate the debt? No way. The only way it would happen is it the republican president was more concerned about the issues than keeping power. Only one guy was capable of that

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    • Smoking Reb
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:17pm

      Have to agree with both your posts. People need to understand that the electoral college protects all of us from the East and West Coast Political Machines. Democracy is mob rule of 51% of the vote telling 49% how to live, eat, and breath (or not). Both parties over the years have won an election here and there with the Electoral Vote while losing the popular vote but over all the system works really well at retaining the Republic.

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    • SELECT
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:48pm

      @soybomb315 – i know you are having difficulty accepting the fact obozo needs to go regardless of the republican running for president. wake up!!!

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    • Chemiker
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:49pm

      You are right. We must face reality. Romney is not perfect, but he so much better than is Hussein. So, as you suggest, we all need to work and contribute for the best candidate who has a chance. See what has happened in Indiana and elsewhere! We can rid ourselves of RINOs, but we must not rid ourselves of good, but imperfect, candidates. That would just be giving more power to Hussein.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:07pm

      @SOYBOMB315 Its not a terrible idea – it is noble.

      It’s not an idea, it’s a reality. We only are going to have two viable candidates to choose from in this election. Governor Romney and President Obama. I, personally, think they both stink for various reasons. But those are going to be the choices.

      I have worked for over 25 years to support alternative individual/party options to the D‘s and the R’s. Why? Because you’re right in your assertion that they spend the vast majority of their money and time either trying to stay in, or gain, power. We should have listened to George Washington when in his farewell address he warned us about Parties in general. Most folks, not necessarily the posters here, in this country won’t even understand that reference.

      In this election I was a Ron Paul supporter. I gave money to his campaign and I worked in my home state of Florida for him hoping that he would win the FL primary. And, obviously, I voted for him. For whatever reasons the majority of voters in my state, and across America, don’t agree.

      So now faced with the REALITIES of the 2012 election I am compelled to support Romney. My conscience will not allow me to vote for Obama, and I really believe this is going to be a very tight race in the Electoral College so I don’t want to take the chance of a write in vote for Paul. Obama is that big of a disaster in my mind. Peace.

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 6:38pm

      if romney wins he can start using alot of executive orders the way adolph obamma has , he opened that door wide and romney should sure as hell shut it

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    • mmabri
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:25pm

      @Smoking Reb, I have no problem with the electrol vote system with the exception that one state has more then another. I would be happy if each state had one electrol vote. Make the canindidates work more and also stop this nonsense of California and the Northeast running the majority of the country.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:22pm

      Cyconas, If you have given up on Paul, you were never really a true supporter. Paul is not out of the race, He is a close second with Romney and a lot of delegates are still there to be had. If you are beleiving the media’s take on the delegate counts, you are starting to fall back asleep. Romney is not anywhere near 900 delegates, he has only 351 actual delegates as of right now. I am sure he will pick up more, but Paul is picking up more also. There is still a battle going on and with rule 38, Paul supporters will be able to unbind themselves, regardless of state law, and vote for Paul on the first round. One of two things will happen, Paul wins on first round or a brokered convention ensues. Stop with the gining up on Paul for the sake of a progressive that will not help us. Here is Romney’s plan since youapparently did not click the link above: http://www.fox19.com/story/17096680/reality-check-fact-checking-mitt-romneys-budget-plan

      Here is another link about delegates: http://www.fox19.com/story/18305604/reality-check-why-all-rnc-delegates-are-free-agents-and-unbound

      Stop being Benedict Arnold and get back to the real frontrunner.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 10:45am

      @LeftCoastPatriot

      If you go back to my original post of this thread you’ll see that it was a call to fellow voters not to forget about the House and Senate elections. No matter who ultimately ends up as the R candidate we should work hard to make sure they have a majority in both chambers of the Congress. In FL, where I live for example, we HAVE TO dump Bill Nelson. He‘s had two terms already and he’s an abomination. That’s were my energies are directed right now.

      If the candidate ends up being RP I’ll be ecstatic. If it ends up being MR I’m prepared with a Plan B. Either way I want folks to remember that whoever it is, the candidate, if elected, will need a majority in Congress for anything positive to happen. And I hope it’s a majority with lot of “tea party” oriented freshmen who are ready to hit the ground running to undo the harm we’ve been inflicted with for the last 40 years.

      I’m very well versed in Rule 38. I might come into play. But, I don’t trust the RNC anymore than I trust the DNC. If you have been watching over the last 40 years, as I have, you know that they change/bend/distort rules anytime it doesn’t suit the establishment wishes. I really hope I’m wrong, but I‘ll have to see with my eyes before I’m going to believe it.

      I maxed out the money that I could give to RP’s campaign. I don‘t give to the committees and PAC’s. I’ve given exactly $0.00 to any other candidate so far. If that makes me a BA then so be it.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 1:20pm

      Cykonas, Just the fact that you call me left coast tells me you are a liar. You were never a Paul supporter, You are just a reflection of Time_2, in fact you probably are Time_2 in disguise. You are an idiot, trtaitor to your country, and you can kiss my A$$. If Romney is the nominee, he will lose. Maybe we really need the U.S. to fall to it’s knees in order for the people to wake up. Maybe it is going to take the death and destruction that will come with it for the people to wake up. If so, I say let’s do it. The majority of Blazers here are selfish, self absorbed people who think they are christian, but fall way short of following Christs teachings. We are going to have an awakening in this country, I am prepared, are you?

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 1:55pm

      @WestCoastPatriot
      I’m sorry about the Left Coast thing, sincerely. When I replied it showed at the top as a reply to me (Cykonas) not to you since I started this thread. I typed from memory and I obviously got it wrong. Again, Mea Culpa.

      I am not your enemy, nor am I Time_2 (whoever that is). I’m a concerned citizen and voter who is trying my best to make sense out of this election cycle. I don’t want to see it come to “the U.S. to fall to it’s knees in order for the people to wake up. Maybe it is going to take the death and destruction that will come with it for the people to wake up.” I realize that scenario is a possibility but I hope it does not come to pass.

      Your assertion that MR will lose is premature. However, I certainly would NOT assert that he will win. Again, as I said in a number of posts, I would prefer RP, but if that doesn’t happen what are my alternatives? Stay home? Don’t vote? Do nothing? Start a Civil War? I mean, really, we (voters who can’t stand the thought of the President being reelected) MUST have a plan B.

      I am truly sorry for the using a wrong screen name when I responded. I hope you will believe me when I tell you that it was totally inadvertent. I have a family who live in Portland and I tease them a lot about being Left Coasters. In their cases the lefty reference is appropriate. I can tell from your frequent posts that it’s not appropriate in your case. Peace.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 4:58pm

      Cykonas, I accept your apology, and I apologize for getting angry and calling you BA (sort of a joke there). I still think Paul can win. I am not ready to give up so easily. You are correct and I have said in other posts that we need to get rid of most that are in Congress right now. There are just a handful that take their oaths of their office seriously and we need more like them. If Romney is the nominee, he will be no different than Obama as he will be beholden to the same corrupt corporations as Obama (Goldman Sachs, JP morgan and the rest). His budget plan will not stop the steady increase in our debt, just lightly slow it down. There was a story that talked about economic collapse in 2-5 years, Obama is 2, Romney is 5. Paul is the only one that will stop the madness as he does not care about the power of the Presidency, but the saving of our Republic.
      At this point, Romney only has 351 actual delegates, not the 989 that the media reports. Paul has 137, Santorum 143 and Gingrich 24. There are still 1660 that have yet to be determined. That does not tell me the race is over. The media will tell you it is, but they have been saying that since 2011 before the race began.
      Keep in touch at: http://www.dailypaul.com/
      And get news from: http://www.fox19.com/category/208878/reality-check-with-ben-swann
      These are the places you will get the true news.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 7:44pm

      @WESTCoastPatriot
      I‘m glad we’re squared up. Thank you for accepting my apology. I will be in Tampa August 27-30 (maybe a few extra days to visit friends) for the convention. If RP is nominated and you see an old, short, goofy looking, bald guy jumping up and down that will me. In all of my posts, or most of them anyway, I’ve always termed MR as a plan B option.
      I think you’re absolutely correct that MR is a Prog Lite and will do little more that slow down our decline. But if that’s the option we have then we have to make the most of it. All the more reason to make sure that we get as many House and Senate candidates elected who are Constitutionally sound. My House Rep is Cliff Stearns. He’s a B-/C+ in my mind and there isn’t a better alternative on the near term horizon. One of my Senators is Marco Rubio. He’s an A-/B+ in my mind. He would be an A+ had he not voted for the NDAA. I can live with him and he’s not up for reelection anyway. My other Senator (as I mentioned before) is Bill Nelson. He is a D-/F. I’m working as hard as I can right now to ID who is the best option to take his place. It’s a very crowded field.
      I would urge you, and all other concerned voters, to make a similar assessment of your Congressional representatives. Then, work your fanny‘s off to find a Constitution loving replacement if they don’t pass muster.
      Thanks for all your passionate thoughts. Let’s hope this all goes our way. If not, though, let’s keep fighti

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on May 21, 2012 at 1:34am

      I will keep my eyes open for you Cyconas as I expect to see you jumping up and down when we use rule 38 to unbind the delegates on the first round and at least cause a brokered convention. In 1920 Warren Harding went in with only 39 known delegates and walked out the winner on the 10th round of voting and went on to win the general by a landslide. I know one thing about history, it has a habit of repeating itself.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:35am

    it’s time for a backlash against obama this november. America is sick and tired of BO. on the tv way too much and on vacation way too much.

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    • VinnieSquawker
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:30pm

      You are right. All of a sudden the MSM is coming out with negative comments, something that was taboo in 2008 and the aftermath. the kid is getting nervous, you can tell by the way he comments on trivial things and keeps trying to divide us and keep us going at one another instead of him. That only works for a little while.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:32am

    hilliary had her chance but she gave it up for obama. now she can go down with obama(bo).

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    • VinnieSquawker
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:31pm

      No, she already said she would not serve after this term. I am wondering if the Dems are going to ditch the kid and go with Hillary.

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  • mike_trivisonno
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:32am

    “This popular vote thing is getting alot of traction. There are a ton of republicans who support it too….”

    The only sort of people who support the abolishment of the Electoral College are communists and enemies of America.

    Republicans who support the abolishment of the Electoral College are communists, too.

    Americans need to be educated on the brilliance of the Electoral College. I am sure the schools teach children that the Electoral College is bad and that it only means that their vote doesn’t really count. This American institution needs to be saved and defended from the communists who would see it destroyed.

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    • dataweaver
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:07am

      The Electoral College hasn’t worked as intended for a long time. The original idea was that state legislatures would select representatives for the express purpose of choosing the POTUS; those reps would then gather on a state-by-state basis and debate among themselves before holding a vote on who that state would support for the office of POTUS; the state results would then be sent to the federal government, which would tally them and select the POTUS accordingly. IMHO, the flaw was putting the selection of the reps entirely in the hands of the state legislatures; this lead to things like winner-takes-all and tying the electoral votes directly to the popular vote.

      What I’d like to see instead: let each congressional district elect one rep (this would be the only popular vote involved); also let each house of each state’s legislature select one rep. Possibly even allow each state’s Governor to appoint a rep. Let the College gather in one place and cast their ballots after vigorous debate. Each rep should be accountable to whoever sent him, and to no one else: e.g. state legistators should have no say about how district reps vote; but they should have say about their own reps. Reps should be free to vote how they wish and take suitable consequences if they violate the trust of those who sent them; their votes should not be mandated, else there’s no point in sending reps.

      Reinstate the College and safeguard it from abuse. (Pipe dream right now, unfortunately.)

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:14am

      Thank you for the educational post. I had no idea so damage has been done.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:46pm

      @dataweaver

      Spot on! That was the beauty of the original intent of the founders. Unfortunately, the two parties have made it an either/or situation.

      The same thing applies to senators. Senators used to be chosen by state representatives – but now they are elected by ‘general election’. The result is that we have senators that are fighting for their own party instead of the state. If we had senators chosen by state representatives – neither of the senators from Virginia would have approved Obamacare because they would have had to represent the state of Virginia instead of the Democrat party

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  • hawkeyez
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:29am

    I don’t believe anything Karl says. Iv’e seen him make so many false predictions, he’s a fool trying to cash is.

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    • mtnhimike
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:02am

      And you are smarter then Rove and you have been on the inside of Politics longer the Rove and you have a large National Polling program so you know more then Rove. Till you show up on any TV show CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC or FOX you are just another blind Liberal Progressive that can spew crap with no background and no political know how.

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  • Seneca264
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:28am

    If you people are smart you would stop listening to this hack Rove. He is nothing more than a shill for the “boiler room” RINO’s. This guy is being portrayed as the Godfather of political fact by Fox. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Have you dummies already forgot about Rove’s background? C’mon, smarten up and do your own research. You are stupid if you allow Rove to formulate your understanding of the political landscape. Predictions are like bung holes, everyone has one.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:55am

      I agree with you the Rove is not the be all end all of prognosticators. He is, however, one credible source. He obviously has a certain “lean” and most folks are smart enough to figure out what that is. But, then, almost all of them have a “lean” one way or the other.

      There isn’t ANY one single source for polling data. Folks aren’t stupid, as you assert, for listening to Rove. They are stupid if they listen to any single source of information. I think that’s true whether the information is concerning politics, news in general, weather, etc. The trick is being able to digest the polls from multiple sources and then draw your conclusions. Peace.

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    • doomytram
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:05am

      You dummies? Gone troll! Listen to me, let me be clear. I don’t listen to Rove, and the people don’t either. I don‘t watch TV and certainly don’t listen to talking heads. Your a buffoon, because no one listens to predictions. If anything, Buffoon, the landscape is much, much worse than what Rove hedges on about, with regard to the EC on the idiot box. Your buffoonery is eclipsed by you dooshbagery.

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    • SELECT
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:51pm

      how about telling us to whom we should listen. would you have us listen with baited breath to axelrod?

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  • 9111315
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:27am

    Do away with the Electoral College and eliminate even more states rights.

    . . . I don’t think so.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:38am

      It is hard to face: Most Americans still do not know what is going on… and think this is about Democrats & Republicans… rather than a Communist Take Over of the American Government!

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    • Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:53am

      I hear ya…repeal the 17th amendment. Voters already had their voice by voting for congressmen. Give the states back their voice!

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  • 65Mustang
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:23am

    The Democratic Voter Fraud Committee will be in full operational mode this year…anything to get their lying, communist, Muslim-loving leader elected again. My contempt for this man knows no bounds.

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    • LOL@Liberals
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:36am

      You must be a racist then. I mean, that’s what disagreeing with the President means, right?

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    • TexasSon
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:23pm

      Stick that ‘racist card’ up your … Barry is a fraud. The media supports his absurd thinking and IF anyone is a ‘racist’ it is without doubt Broke Back Barry. This post by rove is without merit. By suggesting Ron Paul is out of the running. The media has blacked-out all of his recent success and continues to update us all on poor Travon and Kim‘s newest ’attraction’. they give coverage to Newt and M Bachmann, like they are still in the race?
      Ron Paul has a lot more delegates than the media will let on. Why did the map not show Ron Paul and ALL the states he recently won? Why is that? Do tell, please.
      Fact of the matter is all polls show Ron Paul winning in debates with Mitt or Barry. The media is making-up your feeble minds for you. Mitt can not beat Barry, PERIOD. Barry will lose to Ron Paul with a debate. I suggest a vote for Mitt is just a vote for Barry.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:23am

    Romney should beat Obama in a landslide. if this comes true it will be interesting too see how Obama handles the defeat. i hope when they debate Romney takes the gloves off. Romney seems to be a good man and he’s not a commie. he also has experience at business and government and he doesn’t vote present.

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  • disenlightened
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:20am

    Obama is going to run a shrill, mean, nasty campaign that will make him look less like Don Cornelius hosting Soul Train and more like a raging Ed Schultz off his medication. No longer the King of Cool, he’s beginning to turn people off. I can see his numbers dropping steadily, and taking a real nose-dive after their convention, where the rhetoric will be over the top. Landslide? More like convincing win as long as Romney keeps up the pressure and looks and acts presidential. It’s great to see some of these states turning in the right direction so early.

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  • NC
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:16am

    In November we will see a Chicago style election on a national level. Obama and his minions are not going to easily give up the power they have wielded for the last four years.

    November is still a long campaign away and the only poll that matters is the one after the votes are counted. I’ll not concede a single state to Obama. His ilk are far too corrupt to play by the rules.

    NC (still have not updated my spellcheck to recognize the name Obama)

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:31am

      Chicago style is something like “‘It’s Not the People Who Vote that Count; It’s the People Who Count the Vote”.

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  • johnVMFA122
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:12am

    Hey Karl… Every state is a battleground state. We must stop the slide this nation is on NOW or there will be no country left to save. It must be CONSERVATIVES that give Romney his victory in November, or he will turn towards the center and that, IMHO, would be almost as bad as a second Obama administration.

    We need to hold our leader’s feet to the fire, and if they fail us, we should let them burn and find somebody else. If that means running for public office ourselves… so be it.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:24am

      Romney is going to turn towards the center no matter what. Romney didnt even turn towards the conservatives in the primary – what makes you think he would do it in the general?

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    • johnVMFA122
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:37am

      Then we hold him accountable and find someone else that shares the vision of our founders. A candidate’s belief in our liberties and our founding principles should be the only litmus test gtven to our leaders. If they are righteous, principled men and women of strong moral character, then we should be able to identify them by their works, and not their words from a teleprompter.

      Romnet may very well swing left, BUT if he is a man of principle and strong in his faith, there is no way he could look at himself in the mirror in the morning. Mormons may be lots of things, but weak in their commitment to God, family and their country are not values that a proper Mormon lacks.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:51am

      i hear you. But I find it hard to believe that republicans will hold him ‘accountable’ as president when they didnt even hold him accountable in the primary (romneycare, bank bailouts, gun rights)

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    • johnVMFA122
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 3:48pm

      It’s no longer a republican/democrat conversation. Screw the parties and their agendas. This is about American values and principles and I will continue to vote for the guy (or woman) that most closely adheres to tour founding principles. Is Romney that guy? HELL NO! The question we should ask now is whether or not he is the lesser of two evils, and fo that question, the answer is yes.

      I hope somebody like Alan West or Marco Rubio will rise up and oppose Romney in 2016, unless of course Romney heeds his calling and takes a path that makes Ronald Reagan look like Ted Kennedy. Our liberties are not going to be restored unless we take a stand and fight for them. Thankfully we can still vote, but if that fails then we will need to refresh that tree of liberty with the blood of the tirant.

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  • clockwatcher
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:11am

    People hate the black jimmy carter, they fear talking about it to others, it will be a landslide for the republicans. Gone in 160 days.

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    • majasdad
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:06pm

      Ha ha! I’d do anything to see the look on your face when you discover how wrong you were.

      Hint: Google “The Scream” by Edvard Munch.

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  • POET
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:09am

    Ha! Must be that FUNDAMENTAL change that Obama was talking about

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  • TANK3584
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:05am

    Leaning toward Romeny…at least he’s not a commie…………..

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:14am

      yet

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:18am

      Romney is another one of those well-monied, elitist, good-ol-boys.

      He may not be a communist be he sure as heck thinks he is better than you and better than me.

      He thinks your money would be better spent by him and his classy, well-connected, friends in Washington, DC.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:41am

      “…at least he’s not a commie….”

      He may be a secret Royalist. Plenty of doddering fools in the Senate pretend to nobility. They want to be “elevated in station” and be closer to the throne. They want a King, a Queen, hereditary titles, serfs (you and me) to work the land, etc.

      This also is treason. We do not have royalty or nobility in America. The Senators would be wise to remember that.

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    • Want our country back
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:51am

      …… and your option is what exactly……. the Ron Paul is NOT going to defeat ‘o’bama….. get it!!!!!

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:35am

      @Mike
      If they feel like they are Royalty, as you assert, then I contend that it is our (the voters) fault as much as it’s their fault. They can be removed at OUR will every 2,4, or 6 years. We don’t need to wait for the government to establish term limits for any of our elected officials. It’s already in our hands! It’s called “regular elections”. I, personally, never vote for any politician/official at any level for more than 3 terms. Never have and never will. How ’bout you?

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 1:49pm

      “…How ’bout you?….”

      I feel as if my entire voting history has been an exercise in futility. Both parties appear to be composed of criminals, America haters, and sycophants smooching all the rear ends they can. I see very few men and women in Washington, DC.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:03pm

      “…and your option is what exactly…the Ron Paul is NOT going to defeat ‘o’bama, get it!!!!!”

      I am no supporter of Ron Paul as his understanding of the threat posed by Islamic Jihad is infantile.

      At least Romney sees Islamic Jihad as threat; not as a threat to America per se (because I do not think Romney actually believes America is special, just a good place to make a buck), but a threat to the smooth operation of the large corporations and his elite, well-monied, and connected buddies. I find it almost impossible to envision Romney leading men into battle.

      Hopefully Romney picks someone like Allen West to bolster his questionable allegiance to America.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on May 20, 2012 at 12:54pm

      @Mike. In Re: I feel as if my entire voting history has been an exercise in futility.

      Me too, brother. What I think we really need in this country are about a dozen or so very courageous souls who would put together a viable, vibrant third party. In my dreams that party would be one that internalizes the sentiments of what some call the Tea Party. It’s very difficult, though, because there are not enough voters with the guts to think outside the box. They are too seduced by “you’re wasting your vote if you vote for”. BS! If you vote your conscience it’s never a waste.

      Here’s who I would like to see as founders of that party. Michelle Bachmann, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, John Thune, Jason Chaffitz, Tom Coburn, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders (sorry, gotta have one guy to stir things up and even though he‘s a Socialist he’s open about it and consistent.), Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Steve King, Mike Pence, Mitch Daniels, Alan West, Christine O’Donnell, Jim DeMint, and Gary Johnson. I apologize if I misspelled any of the names, but I don’t feel like looking up the spelling of all of them.

      Talk about a pipe dream, right? Who knows? Someday we are bound to get tired of the SOS-DD that the two establishment parties offer us. One day we’ve got to find folks that put America ahead of their party and who want to make a SERIOUS difference in the direction of our country; back toward the Constitution. A man has to have dreams! Peace and hang i

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:03am

    Democrat voter cheating will be at an all time high in Wisconsin’s recall election. A liberal judge struck down the voter picture ID law, and the unions will be busing in creeps from all over the country that suddenly become Cheeseheads.

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    • Want our country back
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:30am

      Ted, you are spot on…. let‘s pray that people ARE awake and see what’s coming with in-action. We must ALL get out and vote these frauds and crooks out of office. Watched Hannity last night and was shocked to see that some of his conservative guests believe that ‘o’bama will get re-elected…. also was shocked that many NY‘ers don’t believe ‘o’bamas own words about his drug use and love of socialists etc

      OMG2012 Get out and vote and think long and hard to ensure your vote counts to defeat ‘o’bama and repairs our country.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:00am

    It’s really hard to believe this thing will even be close. I know it will, but what the heck are those blue states thinking? As far as Georgia leaning Romney…B.S., outside the city of Atlanta, Georgia is blood red.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:14am

      Indeed,the city of Atlanta,Detroit,LA,New York and every other cesspool of a city run into the ground by progressives,the takers we’re inflicted with will support the Marxist POS no matter what.

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 5:57pm

      The blue states where Romney is down by 20+% are the worst run states; ME, CA, Il…None of them seem to talk about their unfunded liabilities ie CA alone at $500 BILLION! I believe 20% of the Illinois state budget goes to union pensions….

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    • berenski
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:23pm

      If you look at a big map of the country from the 2008 election down tho the county level, you pretty much see that we are a vastly red country with identifiable pockets of blue – the cities. If only cows could vote . . . They couldn’t be any dumber than the folks in cities . . . ;-)

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  • mike_trivisonno
    Posted on May 19, 2012 at 7:56am

    Hillary Clinton, so as to prove her love of communism and open hatred for the Constitution and my Bill of Rights, proclaimed that America should abolish the Electoral College and instead elect the President based only upon the popular vote.

    Here is a link for all you nit pickers:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-248645.html

    In her own words:
    “We are a very different country than we were 200 years ago,” [Hillary] Clinton said. “I [Hillary Clinton] believe strongly that in a democracy [America is a Republic, you communist whore.], we should respect the will of the people and to me, that means it’s time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our president.”

    Hillary Clinton is a Communist. There is absolutely no way she should ever be in a position of power over Americans. If anything she should be arrested and tried for treason.

    Hillary Clinton is a Communist piece of crap.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:04am

      They can only Termante you once for Treason… regardless of the Number of Crimes!

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:13am

      Maybe she could perform hard labor for the rest of her life. It would be good to see the enemies of the Constitution actually pay for their crimes once and a while.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:13am

      “America is a Republic, you communist whore.”

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you!!!

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:16am

      This popular vote thing is getting alot of traction. There are a ton of republicans who support it too.

      Might as well – we stopped being a republic a long time ago

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    • Little Johnny
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 8:50am

      What’s so scary about a popular vote? Isn’t that what a democracy is all about?

      Calling someone a “Communist” because they believe in a popular vote? Come on now, do you not know the simple definitions of words?

      I can tell you one thing, and that is that if shifting to a popular vote meant Romney would win for sure somehow, then every Blaze reader under the sun would be screaming for it in all capital letters.

      Same with the voter ID laws. If actually getting more people to vote and encouraging turn-out meant Romney would win then there would be a voting booth in every Walmart check out aisle across the land.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:29am

      @LITTLE…
      Democracy; Popular Vote… is about Mob Rule… where whomsoever stirs up the Mob to their support Wins… which is why Democracy Failed in Ancient Greece all the way to Modern Egypt… and which is why the Founding Fathers rejected Popular Vote for Senators and for the President (elected by the Electorial College)! Read the Federalist & AntiFederalist Papers!
      Nice People can act Stupid… just like the Obama Voters… who place a Communist in Office, who is working to OverThrow the American Form of Government!

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 12:11pm

      @LUKERW

      Little Johnny Alinsky has poor reading comprehension skills, and can not think for himself.

      He just spews media matters talking points.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 2:08pm

      “…Calling someone a “Communist” because they believe in a popular vote? Come on now, do you not know the simple definitions of words?….”

      Hillary Clinton calls herself a communist. Here is a link where she openly proclaims her adherence to ideology that seeks to destroy the American Constitution and my Bill of Rights.

      Hillary Clinton Admits She is a Communist
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oOoCdFblc

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