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Kurt Warner to Tim Tebow: Don’t Be So Bold With Your Faith

Kurt Warner Says Tim Tebow Should Tone Faith Talk Down

Kurt Warner (AP)

Former quarterback Kurt Warner has some advice for Tim Tebow: Tone it down on the faith front.

Warner, who has played for the Arizona Cardinals, New York Giants and St. Louis Rams, is a Christian who claims he learned the hard way that it’s better for believers to let their actions speak louder than words.

In an interview with the Arizona Republic, the former football player seeks to offer advice to his younger brother in faith. ”You can’t help but cheer for a guy like that,” Warner said. “But I’d tell him, ‘Put down the boldness in regards to the words, and keep living the way you’re living. Let your teammates do the talking for you. Let them cheer on your testimony.’”

Warner went on to explain that he knows what Tebow is going through and that he knows “what he wants to accomplish.” That being said, he doesn‘t want people to sour on Tebow simple because they don’t understand him or his faith. “You’re starting to see that a little bit,” he told the Republic.

Kurt Warner Says Tim Tebow Should Tone Faith Talk Down

Tim Tebow engaged in "Tebowing"

It’s not that Warner wants Tebow to hide his faith — or even to avoid it. But he says that as soon as someone talks about his or her love for Jesus Christ, “the guard goes up.” He continued, “I came to realize you have to be more strategic.”

The Republic continues:

Tebow is getting more attention than usual since he became the Broncos’ starting quarterback last month. Denver was 1-4 when Tebow became the starter, and they’ve won five of six games since with him at the helm. With that, though, has come more scrutiny — and not just about his football skills.

Former Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer said recently that he wished Tebow would “just shut up after a game. . . . I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ, then I think I’ll like him a little better. I don’t hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff.”

Tebow, though, has so far defended his actions. Responding directly to Plummer’s words, he said:

“Well, first I’d say, thank you for the compliment of calling me a winner and then I‘d also say if you’re married and you’re a [husband] is it good enough to only say you love her on the day you get married or should you tell her every single day when you wake up and have an opportunity?

And that’s how I feel about my relationship with Jesus Christ. It is the most important thing in my life so anytime I get an opportunity to tell Him that I love Him or give Him an opportunity to shout Him out on national TV, I’m gonna take that opportunity. So I look at that as a relationship that I have with Him that I want to give Him honor and glory anytime I have the opportunity and then right after I give Him honor and glory, then I want to try and give my teammates honor and glory and that’s how it works because Christ comes first in my life. Then my family, and then my teammates.

So I respect Jake’s opinion and I really appreciate his compliment of calling me a winner but I feel like anytime I get the opportunity to give the Lord some praise, He is due for itbecause of what He did for me and what he did for us on the cross for all of us.”

How will Tebow respond to Warner’s advice? That remains to be seen.

(H/T: Christianity Today)

 

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  • greg4fitness
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:59pm

    Tim‘s analogy isn’t really an apples to apples comparison.
    He states:
    If you’re married and you’re a [husband] is it good enough to only say you love her on the day you get married or should you tell her every single day when you wake up and have an opportunity?

    You’re telling your wife you love her directly, not flashing it on national TV after every play. If you want to tell Jesus you love him tell him, don‘t say it on the news because what you’re actually doing is telling everyone else you’re telling Jesus you love him. Having a personal relationship with Jesus is great but having to tell everyone else about it constantly is offensive to many and comes across like you’re playing to the crowd. I agree with Warner, let your actions speak for themselves and make people be interested in what makes you tick and ask. Throwing it in peoples faces constantly that aren’t christian are very turned off, you may not care but your job is to share, not chase away. Like warner says, “strategic”

    Everytime I see a player point at the sky… I know it’s for show. You can give thanks without pointing at the sky. Do you want everyone to know you‘re thanking god or are you trying to convince everyone that you’re a christian and thanking god or trying to convince yourself?

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    • sissykatz
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:07pm

      I admire Tebow, It really takes “Guts” to profess your love
      for God in Public especially in front of Millions knowing that
      so many do not agree, It at least has people talking about faith.
      You never know who may be affected by this and may feel
      they too can show thier faith because he has “Opened the Door”.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:19pm

      Public versus private. Jesus addresses that. Jesus was not complimentary towards those who express their love for God on street corners to be seen of men. If Teebow was really sincere about this, and not just trying to get attention, he would do the teebow at home too. Everytime his wife makes a great burrito or bowl of corn flakes, he would do a teebow. Everytime he opens the drresser drawer and there is a clean set of clothes in there each morning, he does a teebow. Everytime he turns on the shower and warm water comes out, he does a teebow right there in the shower. Every time he enters his house and is thankful for it, he does a teebow in the doorway. Each morning each night. Everytime he gets in his car and is thankful for it, he gets back out of the car and does a teebow right there in the middle of the street and backs up traffic. Teebow teebow teebow it become ridiculous when you think of WHY he says he does it. If he is consistent he does it everywhere even when the NFL cameras are not trained on him. Otherwise, hes just a guy with a loud trumpet sounding off like Jesus talked about. Its the latter, and any bible reading christian can see what Jesus said about it. THERE YOU GO.

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:20pm

      I would give him a little more credit, Greg. My pressuposition would be that Tim feels the conviction to be an example and to show others to whom we ought look to, as the “source” of our blessings.
      I’m more predisposed to think his motive is selfless – not self-serving.
      But beyond that, his motives are really irrelevant when you think about it – the only thing that matters really is how we choose to perceive those moments when they come.
      My two cents…
      Vote Mitt Romney!

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    • Fighting4America
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:22pm

      Ok I have to be mean for just a second and say….YOUR being STUPID. First, it is very much like apples to apples. A relationship with your wife is no more important than your relationship with your creator. That is if you believe. Who are you kidding that you wouldn’t say it on national TV. Nearly every boy that gets a chance to be on TV says “ I love you Mom”. So if that is human nature for a lot of people on TV than why wouldn’t he profess his love to ALL that will listen, on TV, to God??? You are misguided. So many of you make it a crime to profess our love to God unless it’s in a deep dark room and your all by yourself….well that would be the easiest time to profess your love. It takes incredible courage to do what he is doing and everyone of faith should take note!!! Who are you and all the other folks to judge how one should praise their lord? Shame on all of you.

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    • scheduler
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Just let him think like he wants.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • gmoneytx
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Then why do people go to church? That also is a public display!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Problem for Warner is God’s word is indeed to be bold in your faith. I‘d take God’s advice first.

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    • Locked
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:36pm

      “Ok I have to be mean for just a second and say….YOUR being STUPID.”

      I have to be mean for just a second as well. “YOU’RE“ is not spelled ”YOUR.”

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:38pm

      MATTHEW 10:32…”Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven.. Looks like Tebow’s got it right.

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:39pm

      Typical lost person’s response, a undercover Christian. I think if you read the Bible close enough you‘ll find God doesn’t consider people who are undercover Christians to be His children! You have Sunday morning religion my friend, worthless!

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    • DrIvey
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:40pm

      Although I am not a Christian, I absolutely agree with Fighting4America. Well said, sir.

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    • Scott Archer
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:42pm

      Tebow expresses his faith in the venue God has provided for him. How many of us can say we do that boldly in the the venue God has provided for us? God is soveriegn and just and Tim truly believes, and rightfully so, that everything in life comes from the Father. Just because some may believe it turns people off or makes them harder to reach, all I can say to that is, it’snot for them to decide. Maybe as professing Christians who are critical of Tebows actions, they should rethink who it is that is actually in control and can make hearts soft, eyes see, and ears hear. Life and football and fun and money and on and on and on only last so long. Thanks Tim Tebow for being an example to aspire to. Not trying to say he’s perfect or that he may not let you down one day, just saying he’s in the game of life and participating to the best of the ability God gave him. Blessings to you all.

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    • garyM
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:44pm

      I really don‘t Tim really cares about your opinion or Kurt’s either! He cares about God’s opinion, we would all do well the be the same as Tim Tebow!

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    • trufire1204
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:47pm

      Right or wrong it will always be desire that moves us, faith that drives our spirits upward and onward.
      Tebow, should always do as he see’s fit for himself to do so, no amount of ridicule will ever loosen his grip on truth. The world at large should celebrate in his feelings with him as he feels it?? Tebow will be one of the greatest Quarter Backs who ever lived. Judgmental Hippocrates should be quiet, I didn’t write this next bit, but I think it suits the purpose “happy is the one who for the sake bears the burden of persecution with firm hope”( 810ce) (Thabbit Ibn Qurra) “ we are the heirs and propagators of truth”
      does anyone know the truth? Philosophy should be left to those in charge in their particular fields to speak. When it comes to FootBall Tebow is grateful to be, Leave his grip on faith and his philosophy to himself. I think that anyone who has anything to say is trying to garner attention.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:49pm

      BLACKTOOTH, there you go quoting those first four books in the New Testament, the ones that actually QUOTE what Jesus actually taught. Wish the vast majority of Christians would actually believe Jesus Christ and follow him, rather than make these spectacles that NOBODY RESPECTS excepting themselves. But that is a form of self righteousness and spiritual immaturity. It is best to read Jesus first, then build on that. Stop quoting Paul since you don’t understand him anyway. Read Jesus, understand that first, then read Paul and REINTERPRET Paul so that he is COMPATIBLE with Christ (in your minds). I already know what Paul says, and I read it differently BECAUSE of things like the Sermon on the Mount which are CLEAR an unmistakeable. Christ said to pray in your closets. Not in public to be seen of men.

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    • crackerone
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:54pm

      If he were Muslim, they would think it was cute.

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    • Sargint Rock
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:58pm

      You sir, are a hypocrite of the first order. If he thanked his wife and kids(which he doesn’t have at the present time) on every occassion he had the opprotunity, you and most of his detractors would probably laugh it off or make wry comments about the “Family Man”.
      Let’s speak truthfully. “Any man who loves Jesus more than you is usually branded a fanatic”.Dave B. I learned that along time ago at the beginning of my walk with Christ. The fact is, to this fallen world the mere mention of JESUS CHRIST is like a finger nail on a chalkboard.
      Thank GOD we still have people who have their priorities right. I love this guy and yes, he is my Christian brother!

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    • bradb
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Keep it up Tim, there are a lot of us that back you, let no-one tell you how to carry yourself or what is right or wrong in football. A few trips around Jericho caused the whole city to fall, and it can work with the NFL too.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:11pm

      Telling people they have to keep their faith to themselves is what got our country in the shape it is in now. It sure is better to see and a better example to the youth then the stupid me me me celebrations you see players do after every play they make be it a good tackle, first down catch, or touchdown. Shouldn’t they tone it down? You keep going Tebow give the credit where credit is due and do it publicly what better way to be a witness for God. Look at the millions he has already reached out to.

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    • Kankokage
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:26pm

      By their fruits ye shall know them. What I see from Tebow’s religiousness is good. Last week I saw an on-field prayer with Tebow and members of the Broncos and Chargers (I think the Chargers >.>). I have never seen that at any sporting event I’ve attended, and I believe it is a direct result of Tebow not being afraid of his faith. He is becoming a tremendous example for the youth of this country and for his peers. If he was puffing himself up at the expense of God, then I might think differently.

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    • Miguelito
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:49pm

      What’s the problem? God is all over our government buildings, our founding father did not hide their faith, and God wants us to be bold! You take God out of public schools and look what happened. Tim, never, never, never compromise your faith in God! Deny Me before man and I will deny you before the Father!

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:59pm

      @FIGHTING4AMERICA….. Not only are you mean, but you really need to work on your grammar…. There…. Fixed it for ya.

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    • ahenager2
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:03pm

      @symphonic, Christ told people to pray in private but he did NOT command his followers to avoid praying in public. Christ prayed in public often. He preached before thousands. He told to not be as the hypocrites, praying in public solely for the purpose of recognition. What makes you certain that Tebow doesn’t “teebow” as you call it in private as well. Perhaps you should also read Christ’s words about standing in judgement of others.

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    • ACLUHater
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:21pm

      If you have a problem with him talking religion, you better have the same problem with the hispanic ball players making a sign of the cross every time they cross home plate. But these dopes leave the ball field and hit the clubs with guns in their pockets.

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    • justbailey
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:25pm

      To Blacktooth and others;

      This scripture does not describe Tebow’s actions, actually it describes the inverse of his actions. The whole point of his message is to give the CREDIT to GOD, not him. He feels he was given a talent by God and when given a spotlight he is going to use to glorify GOD, not himself. This is exactly what scripture tells us to do. In all things, give the glory to God.

      Tebow is not using God to get a spotlight. He has that spotlight because of his athletic abilities, and has the choice to glorify himself, or God. He chooses to praise God. Who cares if others are turned off by it, Christians are not called to make others feel comfortable, but to spread the name of Jesus to all nations, and Tebow has a pretty good platform for that mission.

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    • Fighting4America
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Fighting4America may not be BRILLIANT like the rest of you grading my post, but I do have common sense! I think u can read my post and get the message.

      Those who live in glass houses, should not cast stones!! I am sure you never make mistakes!

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:29pm

      BLACKTOOTH…..the passage from John you’re quoting is a reference to hypocrisy. Making a big show of your “faith” to all and sundry just for the show of it. Did you think that in a time like this when atheists and leftists are doing their utmost to erase God from society that God might not be using Tebow to remind us not to forget him? I see no reason to question the genuiness of Tebow’s faith.

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    • ScoobyCheese
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:41pm

      BLACKTOOTH & SYMPHONIC, I believe you are not using that scripture in the proper context, unless you actually believe that Tebow talks about Jesus every chance he gets just to make himself look more righteous than everyone else.
      The Bible also says (In one of the 1st four books of the NT) “If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.” – Luke 9:26 Then you have the Great Commission in Matthew 28 where Jesus commands us to go and teach the world about Him.
      As for GREG4FITNESS’s comment, my love for my wife is not private. I want the world to know. It’s one of the main reasons I wear the ring – not to remind myself, or her, but to let everyone else know. My wife has never said “Shhh, don’t tell anybody you love me. That’s just between us.” Jesus never said that either. In fact, He said just the opposite. (again, Luke 9:26 ) You don’t have to be a jerk about it, but Jesus does want you to let people know you love Him – a LOT. Parts of our relationship with Christ are certainly between us and Him, but the fact that we HAVE a relationship with Him was never intended to be. I’m all for being “strategic” and smart about it, but it’s not very strategic to shut up or do nothing. If you’ve ever heard Tebow talk, the guy is humble and compliments his teammates, too. Give him a break.

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    • ZarHJersey
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:03pm

      I didn’t know Kurt Warner was a Christian.

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    • JRook
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:04pm

      Good advice for all. It is supposedly a personal relationship, so best it remain personal. My experience has been that many of the born again, evangelist oriented folks need to spend more of their energy improving their own performance and character as opposed to preaching to others and trying to influence public policy.

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    • ROMANS 10-9
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:13pm

      I agree with Tim Tebow spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ worldwide.
      Tim chose to stay in college football for one more year, JUST because of the
      Google Search record set on the day of the national championship game.
      More searches were made for one specific subject than any other in internet history.
      That subject was written under his eyes,

      John 3:16

      He made up his mind to play another year at the lower level when informed
      of that statistic.

      Tim Tebow is the real deal. He serves our Lord Jesus Christ in every way possible
      and those of you who are fighting to silence him are actualy fighting to silence Him.
      You can not silence the lamb.

      Serve God with all your mind, all your soul and with all your heart Timmy.

      One day when all the world has heard the Good News, then Jesus will come to be with us again.

      Amen to you Timbo!

      P.S.
      You are invited to a Great Christmas Celebration Show,
      Tickets avaliable online at,
      http://www.SarasotaChristmas.com

      Tim Tebow your tickets are free!

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:14pm

      I am wondering why my comment was dropped from this comment thread?

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    • RollEagle
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:23pm

      I totally agree with you….What I can’t stand is when a professional athelete is shown on TV saying, “Hi Mom!” I always think, is he trying to convince us that he loves his mom or trying to convince himself? Does he really have a mom? Maybe he used to be a frog or something and evolved into an athlete? It just raises those questions in my mind.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:35pm

      My comment that was dropped included Jesus’ words at;
      John 6:1 “Take good care not to practice YOUR righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise YOU will have no reward with YOUR Father who is in the heavens. 2 Hence when you go making gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full. 3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, 4 that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you.
      5 “Also, when YOU pray, YOU must not be as the hypocrites; because they like to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the broad ways to be visible to men. Truly I say to YOU, They are having their reward in full. 6 You, however, when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret; then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.

      Someone must not want to take these words, and apply them to the actions we display to others.
      I pass no judgment to Tebow, all I am doing is giving some information that people can use in how we conduct ourselves our Christians. Accept the words or not, makes no difference to me. we are free moral agents after all.

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    • JRook
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:53pm

      @ScoobyCheese I would suggest the verse reference under his eyes is exactly the type of outward and obvious pronouncement that, along with his references in every news conference, is indicative of someone who is trying to project himself and gain attention. It would seem it is working. Now if he can only focus on the football part. There will be a game soon where his defense gives up more than 14 points.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Tebow is a winner and a witness for Christ. Please shut up Curt. I think I heard the story of you, your wife and her kids and how god put you together enough times….You have no room to talk.

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    • LeeroyJenkins
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 5:04pm

      Greg4Fitness=troll.

      He is telling Jesus directly as he is always telling him and Jesus is in all of us. You are just upset he lives a life of consequence and morals. You cannot accept accountability for your actions and your words are rather pitiful. You think all the players who point to the sky are doing it for Jesus?

      Sorry you are a bonehead. Players have lost family and mentors even influential coaches and show them gratitude as well. I’m so tired of reading people cry because a person professes Christianity. This doesn’t happen to Akbars, nor Hindus or even Voodooism. Just Christians. Why? The answer is simple. Boneheads like you either have not taken time to read or are so self-centered that you do not have a bit of morality and only concern you with you.

      I’m not even a Christian and see your logic is nothing more than trollist propaganda from the Doofys of the world. I want to go to Hawaii YAY YAY!

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 5:43pm

      A Christian should be bold in declaring the “Good News” of the Kingdom, but he should also be humble, even meek in his attitude while doing so.
      It is not easy to be a true Christian.

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    • typinggurl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 6:17pm

      Who are we to judge another man’s servant? When Muslims can yell Allah Akbar and Jesus Christ can be mentioned when one is ticked, and no one is offended, then you have to ask yourself, why would one be offended by the mention of that name in reverence? Could it be that those who are “uncomfortable” are so because they are not sure of what they believe and they know instinctively that perhaps…just perhaps…that He (Jesus) is the only begotten Son of God who died for their miserable hides? Hmmm…don’tcha just wonder….

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    • NWWADD
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 6:35pm

      GREG4FITNESS – STFU… “offensive to many” I’m sick of people like you getting offended by what other people say.. This whole country is walking on egg shell because of people like you. S>>>T>>>F>>U!!!! I walk on egg shells no longer.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 8:14pm

      @BlackTooth

      Good post. 

      I’m curious as to what day TeeBow keeps as Sabbath (rest). I just see TeeBow using this for attention not for honor and I agree with all your verses you posted. Hope you are well. 

      @WhiteFang

      Good post. 

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    • Grey Eagle
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:07pm

      Kurt Warner can mind his own business.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:37pm

      @Sargint Rock I am saying that being CONSISTENT is important, unless you don’t care about being a hypocrite. I am saying that if teebow is done on the NFL cameras, and it is not done at home too, then that‘s inconsistent and that’s hypocrite in action. I sincerely DOUBT he teebows every time his wife makes a meal, every time his alarm clock goes off, every time he takes a nice warm shows, teebows everytime he does anything good or great in his personal life, such as figure out a crossword puzzle. TEEBOW time?? That’s just ridiculous. You know he doesn’t, so why is he doing it on NFL cameras? Total show time. Jesus preached against that kind of thing. But I don’t expect all evangelicals to get it because they still are into calling other churches cults and such.

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    • brian8793
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 10:55pm

      Tim Tebow is just young and he doesn’t know what his Bible says about praying in public.
      Matthew 6:5
      “And whenever you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. I tell you with certainty, they have their full reward!

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 11:40pm

      Okie from Muskogee,

      Always nice to read your comments as they are reasonable. Unlike so many others.

      Why your question about the Sabbath? What is your position on keeping it observed?

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 11:57pm

      @BlackTooth

      Thank you and your comments are as well. 

      I grew up a Sunday worshipper but in maturity have went back to Saturday Sabbath rest thru the non denominational Church I attend. I try not to employ and/or be employed on the Sabbath. We try to focus on God and devote that day in observance of what he does for us and all he has made/gives us. They are commandments and if we want to base law on them and all that we might as well follow them. That‘s just my faith’s belief. 

      I’m curious as to what day TeeBow worships God. What day does he observe as Sabbath and/or if he just picks a day to observe it or does he not observe the Sabbath at all. 

      Since most are Sunday worshippers and football is on Sunday I see that being a conflict unless he is one who believes he can pick any day he chooses. 

      To each his own I suppose. What day do you observe as Sabbath? 

      Stay safe my friend. 

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:03am

      Okie from Muskogee,

      I will try to be brief,
      We do not hold to the requirement of keeping a weekly Sabbath as we are Christians enjoying the new covenant with Christ Jesus as our King and Redeemer. Jesus, thanks to his ransom sacrifice, put an end to the Mosaic Law along with its Sabbath requirements and animal sacrifices and regulations. As Christians we are free from all that. – Colossians 2:16-17, Galations 4:4-5, 9-11, Romans 10:4

      The Law Code, including the sabbath requirement, was only given to the ancient nation of Israel.
      Exodus 16:1, 23, 26, Deuteronomy 5:2-14

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    • snooop1e
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:27am

      I agree, (1 Peter 3:15)
      “be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear”

      We are called to live out our faith in word and deed so that when people see us they see Christ. I commend this young man for his zeal but he might reach more people if he simply lives out his faith in humility and then gives a reason for his hope when asked. That’s biblical….

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    • DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:59am

      I agree with Kurt, Tim should temper his paganism. 

      @blacktooth
      I’ll be brief. You’re a liar.

       The “mosaic” Law was given to the MIXED multitude. The verses you quoted are the typical glib responses, out of context via anachronism and the result of a pathetic internet search. 

      Show me the verse where “jesus” commanded you to keep SUNday holy. Only one day in all of Scripture was blessed. Only HIS Sabbaths are a sign of the covenant. Rome’s “holy” days are called the mark of the beast. 

      p.s. Saying you are freed in “jesus” is kinda stupid. The true Messiah‘s name isn’t that. “jesus” is the image of the beast. 

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 2:18am

      @BlackTooth

      Oh, so in your faith Jesus did away with the commandments and you do not go to Church to worship God each week? 

      Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: (Colossians 2:16 KJV) – You think this is referring to weekly Sabbath day? My faith does not. 

      To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. (Galatians 4:5 KJV) we are only under the law if we aren’t adhering the law. Adoption thru repentance right? 

      For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. (Romans 10:4 KJV) – This doesn’t say Christ ended the law but is the fulfillment of the law, the end result of the law.  

      If ye love me, keep my commandments. (John 14:15 KJV)

      And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Galatians 3:29 KJV)

      Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (Matthew 5:17 KJV)

      Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:19 KJV)

      To each his own I suppose. Appreciated the conversation. 

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    • conservativeone
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 8:50am

      You don’t have to watch, nor do you have to listen.
      When they shove a microphone in Tebow’s face, the 1st thing he does is thank Jesus Christ.
      MANY sport figures do this … Time expresses the depth of his faith in “Sit Down” Interviews. There’s a difference.

      And you are wrong … A Player pointing to the sky is not for show in all cases. You’re making an assumption based on your opinion.

      Most that criticize these actions don’t understand the love for Jesus Christ.

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 9:08am

      .
      I guess that means no more “Hail Mary” passes.

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    • wesinLR
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 9:20am

      lots of “Christians” judging people here… just saying its not your place to judge why another man prays .

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    • davismusic28
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 9:43am

      I’ve noticed that the non-believers seem to always think they know what it takes to be a believer. Funny! Seems every one can have an open public voice….except a Christian, because our faith that is centered around love is sooooo dangerous that it requires us to kill those who refuse to accept our faith!!! Oh the hypocracy of those who say we all have the freedom to believe how ever we want to believe, then attack Christians when we talk about that which we believe in! You’re an inspiration Tebow!!!!

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 9:53am

      The Apostles were told to stop talking about Jesus yet they were willing to be put to death before they would shut up.

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 11:19am

      You see, either the Law Code of Moses given to the Israelites is still in effect (All of it), or it has been taken away to make room for the New Covenant through Christ. The Jews knew there was going to be a new arrangement. – Jeremiah 31:31, Galations 4:4-5

      Mankind was to move forward, keeping up with God’s arrangements for salvation.
      Going back to concluded requirements means being left behind.
      We don’t want to miss the sunrise do we?

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 11:31am

      Okie from Muskogee,

      I am so frustrated, half of the time my posts do not show up. At this point all I can say is study the scriptures carefully, reason on them, ask why, where, who, when, and what. Why, why did Jesus say;

      37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her,—how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But YOU people did not want it. 38 Look! YOUR house is abandoned to YOU. 39 For I say to YOU, YOU will by no means see me from henceforth until YOU say, ‘Blessed is he that comes in Jehovah’s name!’” – Matthew 23:37-39

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 11:46am

      Okie from Muskogee,

      We attend 5 meetings a week, 3 on Wednesday and 2 on Sunday.

      These meetings are for worship and instruction in the scriptures. We hold to what the Bible actually says, not to any traditions or false ideas of Christendom. We are no part of Christendom.
      We worship Jehovah God, and we do so through grace provided by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

      Excuse me if I sound short, I am ready to quit this Blaze thing.

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    • ckmarti53
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:00pm

      God wants Christians to be bold in their faith and to proclaim it where ever we are and the fact that Tim Tebow doesn’t bow down to the leftist atheists, to me, is refreshing. Thank God, finally somebody who isn’t afraid of proclaiming his faith for fear of ”offending” someone! I, myself, wouldn’t mind getting a ”Jesus” jersey and wearing it publicly.

      Brother Tim — Rock on baby!!

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:01pm

      Okie from Muskogee,

      Jesus fulfilled the Law.
      It is interesting to find the meaning of the word “fulfill” in a dictionary.

      It does not mean to continue in a course or cause, it means it is finished, accomplished, end.

      I hope I am being clear in explaining this. If not, I will retire. :-)

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:47pm

      @BlackTooth

      Howdy my friend. I hear you on getting frustrated due to some posts not showing. The censor sometimes misinterprets words and blocks post. Example: C-Stance, if spelled out would prevent my post from going thru even though it’s not a bad word. Weird eh? 

      I suppose your faith sees ordinances and commandments as the same? 

      My faith sees Jesus Christ as the fulfillment, end result of the commandments and law, and in opening the covenant to all did away with the written ordinances (law) which was kept on the outside of the covenant in a little pocket, not the commandments written on stone inside.

      Ordinances and commandments are not the same thing. 

      Ordinances = Moses written law = feast day rituals, ceremonial law, annual Sabbath festivals

      Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. (Hebrews 9:1 KJV)Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Hebrews 9:10 KJV)

      Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; (Colossians 2:14 KJV)

      Commandments = demands/orders from Jehovah = Ten commands we are to keep always. Written in stone. 

      If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love. (John 15:10 KJV)

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:55pm

      Blacktooth, don’t retire my brother.
      I have also experienced dropped comments and many opposer’s to what the Bible clearly says.
      The truth is sometimes hard for people to accept due to their previous education. Remember how the apostle Peter felt when he was instructed to accept the inclusion of non-Jew gentiles into the Christian Congregation? – Acts chapter 11

      Christians move forward!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:57pm

      And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. (2 1:6 KJV)

      Definition of fulfill:
       achieve something: to do what is necessary to bring about or achieve something expected, desired, or promised
      carry out order: to do what is necessary to carry out a request or command
      satisfy something: to be good enough or of the type necessary to meet a standard or requirement

      There is very much we share in belief but differ in others, mainly keeping of the Sabbath/Commandments. You are by no means my enemy. I appreciate your time in conversing with me. 

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    • mudvilles9
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:13pm

      @TimTebow

      Brother I love you young enthusiasm, I love your zeal for our Savior too. Lister to Kurt Warner he has some good advice for you. As for the Lord, I would steer you to what he preached in Matthew. Let your actions be a light to the world, let your life be salt to the earth. God Bless you brother.

      Matthew 6:5-6

      King James Version (KJV)

      5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

      6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:22pm

      The Ten Commandments were part of the Law given to Moses and the Israelites.
      They are righteous principles that all of mankind should consider, not just the Jews.

      There were many other laws that was attached and the Jews had to faithfully keep all of them.
      The Law Code was a tutor, leading the Israelites to a new covenant. – Jeremiah 31:31

      In the old Law Code, if a person was to break the weekly Sabbath law, he was to be executed. Ouch!
      Through the new covenant made with the Apostles at Pentecost, everyone is now free of those obligations that successfully led the nation of Judah to the Christ.

      As with contracts today? When the contract is fulfilled, payments are no longer required.

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    • Old Truckers
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 1:41pm

      Whitefang,

      I love it when my car payment contract is fulfilled. Free at last!

      I could keep making the payments if I wanted to but, why?

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 2:18pm

      @Old Truckers

      Car = Salvation
      Commands = orders of owning a car to keep it running right
      Ordinances = rules of loaner providing funds to car

      You want a car. 
      You know all car owners are to honor it, have only one, want no one else’s, steal no others, etc. 
      To obtain the car you must get a loan and follow the rules of the loaner, payments, maintenance, annual cleaning, only certain oils, insurance. 

      Jesus fulfilled the law and became the loaner to anyone wanting a car. Jesus was the end result of the law. Becoming the loaner He did change the loaner ordinances but not the commands of owning a car. 

      Once you complete your car payments you aren’t going to trash it and forget the universal known standards to maintain your car are you? You may have no payments but if you do not do the normal commands at keeping it your car will fall apart and you will need a new one. 

      Faith in Jesus and keeping Jehovah‘s commandments is what it’s all about. 

      Have a great day! 

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 2:54pm

      Okie from Muskogee,

      I hope I did not offend you in answering your question regarding the keeping of the Sabbath.
      Whether or not you keep the sabbath, is not a big issue to me and does not affect how I regard you. I consider you to be very genuine in your faith and admire your strength.

      It is hard to have a productive conversation without seeing each other face to face. sigh!

      Stay strong my friend.

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    • rto
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 3:15pm

      Get over it. It’s a freedom and he has every right to do it, even if people like yourself don’t like it or do you believe in freedom only when you agree with it? It’s that simple unless your a lawyer.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 3:45pm

      @BlackTooth

      No offense at all taken. I enjoy conversing with you, you are always respectful and kind. I appreciate that and you much. 

      That bad part of conversing not face to face is there is no tone and meaning can be lost or mis interpreted. 

      As I said we hold much in common and I respect others see differently regarding the Sabbath. 

      The one part that we differ on and I may be ignorant on is this: we agree on the godhead I believe, the Father is supreme. How then can the Son do away with the Father’s commands? My faith contends the Son upholds them and fulfills the law (ordinances of man) becoming the ordinances and keeping the commands of the Father. Hope that makes sense. 

      Keep the faith and stay safe my friend. 

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    • Blacktooth
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 4:17pm

      Okie from Muskogee, – How then can the Son do away with the Father’s commands?

      If I understand you, you think that by Jesus fulfilling the Law Code he (Jesus) canceled out Jehovah’s Law?
      No, never may that happen, Jesus always upheld God’s Law.

      It was Jehovah God himself who ended the Law Code given to Moses. And this was expected , or it should have been, by the Israelites/Jews. – Jeremiah 31:31-40

      Of course the righteous principles around which the Law was constructed remains, and alway will. Because in God’s Sabbath of the thousand year reign of His Son, we will be truly at rest.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 6:54pm

      @BlackTooth

      I probably failed in my attempt to say what I meant. 

      God sent Jesus, fulfillment of law (ordinances), and Jesus (faith in Him) became the ordinance to the Father and the only path to Him. Jesus fulfilled the ordinance/sacrifice of old becoming the new ordinance of the new. Commands still stand. Hope that makes better sense. Appreciated the conversation much. 

      If I understand your belief Jesus fulfilled and did away with commands and ordinance? I think that’s what we differ upon. Hope your evening is good. Enjoyed the conversation much. 

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    • CRAPGIVER
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:28am

      @ greg4fitness since when, did god almighty, appoited kurt warner, and greg4fitness, how a christian should, express its love towards his perfect son jesus christ, i did not realise, that a christian, has to follow the rules of hypocritical religious nuts, on how god loves best to be loved, if you read the scriptures, which i doubt you or kurt warner do , the bible tells the beliver very clearly , that if you are asheimed of him , that is jesus christ, he too will be asheimed of you, when judgment time comes around. Why don’t you just mind your own behaviour and let tim tebow, express himself any way he desides to please our living master and his perfect living word jesus christ, we don’t care if you clowns get bother by our love for christ. So deal with it. We are tired of stupid ignorant jews telling us that they get offended , well touch **** , we too get offended by your stupid rules and godless ways and jet we tolerate you more than we should.Yes we christians “true” christians don’t care what you think, when it comes to god we are here on earth to please him not the ignorant sports fanatics.

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    • black9897
      Posted on December 3, 2011 at 12:34pm

      @greg It is a good comparison. Only difference is his job he’s on TV so people can see him. So get off his back. I think he’s honest about it. He’s not going overboard, so you don’t know his intent. I think because a lot of ppl act like Christians and say they love God when it‘s clear it’s for show is why when someone points to the sky or takes a knee you jump to “oh he must be doing it for show” .

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    • ScoobyCheese
      Posted on December 4, 2011 at 3:01pm

      @JROOK, I never said he didn’t want attention. I just don’t think there is any reason to believe he is doing it to promote his own righteousness. He said himself that he would take every opportunity he could to proclaim Christ, not himself. (Again, Luke 9:26). The verses under his eye started in college because the cameras were already all over his face. He doesn’t use Christ to gain attention, he uses the attention he gets to proclaim Christ and not himself. They don‘t interview the guy because he’s a Christian. They interview him because he’s a winner and the Denver crowd was campaigning for him to play (he was not campaigning). If he was an egotistical, fame-seeking jerk who used the name of Christ so he could gain the following of the Christian subculture (and there are plenty of those), I would be the first to tell the guy to shut up. Instead, he’s a humble Heisman trophy-winning national champion who happens to be winning in the NFL and wants to give the glory to God. I am sure that when he starts losing he will humbly accept the blame, and still glorify Christ (he’s done it before). Until then, criticize his playing if you want, but if he says, “I love you, Mom,“ or ”I love you, Jesus,” what’s the bother?

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    • gwnail
      Posted on December 6, 2011 at 9:51am

      For all those self righteous who “think” they know what Jesus said:

      Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
      Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
      Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Mat 10:36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

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    • mikecamilleri
      Posted on December 6, 2011 at 11:00am

      How do you know they’re doing it for show? Do you have magical mind reading powers the rest of us don’t have or are you assuming you know?

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    • ConstitutionalPatriot
      Posted on December 7, 2011 at 1:28pm

      Greg4Fitness “Everytime I see a player point at the sky… I know it’s for show. You can give thanks without pointing at the sky.” So you are saying then that every time a player dances in the end zone he is trying show he is a stripper, or a pole dancer? How about when you reach a new Bench Press and you grunt and pound your chest . . . Are you an Ape?

      GREG, it is sad when a non-Christian try‘s to put down Christians because they don’t want to FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES.

      I pray several times each day, whether you are looking or not. . . I don’t care what you think of me, I only care what He thinks of me.

      God bless

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Kurt, don’t be such a JEALOUS HAS BEEEN! GO TEBOW! The power of prayer. :) Dontcha LOVE it?

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    • Twinspeedr
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Actions DO speak louder than words. Making a display of prayer or decorating ones self with “JESUS” jerseys and such are not part of the Christian mission. It is grandstanding.

      The Pharisees were admonished for their self-aggrandizing displays of mock piety, even by the Messiah himself.

      No one knows what is in Tebow’s heart, but Tebow and God. However, the question is; WHOM are you REALLY glorifying with your actions and words? God? Or, yourself?

      His will, His glory. Not Tebow’s.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:21pm

      STREET CORNER PRAYER. If Teebow was really sincere about this, and not just trying to get attention, he would do the teebow at home too. ALL DAY. Everytime his wife makes a great burrito or bowl of corn flakes, he would do a teebow in the kitchen. Everytime he opens the drresser drawer and there is a clean set of clothes in there each morning, he does a teebow in the bedroom. Everytime he turns on the shower and warm water comes out, he does a teebow right there in the shower. Every time he enters his house and is thankful for it, he does a teebow in the doorway. Each morning each night. Everytime he gets in his car and is thankful for it, he gets back out of the car and does a teebow right there in the middle of the street and backs up traffic.

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:27pm

      EqualJustice, tell me about the “power of prayer” and the Reality of Prayer! As for Tim Tebow, and his expressions; keep on, keeping on!

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 6:28pm

      @ Twinspeedr
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Actions DO speak louder than words. Making a display of prayer or decorating ones self with “JESUS” jerseys and such are not part of the Christian mission. It is grandstanding.
      ——————————————————————————————————————————————-
      But I‘m sure you’re “A”-okay with strutting around in Nike’ crap, jersey that say sexy girl, and all the other t-shirt stenciling and silk screening?

      This is the world which we are born into, so until you throw away all yours, and your family’s t-shirts and sweat shirts and other labeling stuff, maybe even Che’ t-shirts for all I know you don’t have a beef to present.

      If Tebow praying upsets peoples tender little feelings it’s too bad.

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    • brian8793
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 10:53pm

      Matthew 6:5
      “And whenever you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. I tell you with certainty, they have their full reward!

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 11:32pm

      @ brian8793
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 10:53pm

      Matthew 6:5
      “And whenever you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. I tell you with certainty, they have their full reward!
      ———————————————————————————————————————————————
      You’re making an assumption that Tebow is doing this for some kind of reward. If it’s okay for idiots to do weird dances after a big play or scoring a TD, so what it he counters that with actually giving praise to the God who gave him his talent?

      I‘d suggest you don’t have a clue what Tebow is involved in when he’s not on the field not being seen by man, so your premise for discord is flawed at each point. Even my boy Santonio Holmes does that stupid looking jet airplane thing and people are fine with that.

      I say good for Tebow, who I seriously doubt is looking for a reward for his giving gave the praise.

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  • elosogrande
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Warner should mind his own business, and he should be ashamed of himself for his opinion.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:29pm

      No, evangelicals need to read the BIBLE and follow the words and counsel of JESUS CHRIST who actually taught against this kind of thing. You need to get your head out of Paul’s one sided opinions and start with the direct words of Jesus Christ especially the Sermon on the Mount which most evangelicals seem to ignore and never quote. Read it.

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    • mocon
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:38pm

      @SYMPHONIC:

      2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
      2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

      Clearly we should not discount Paul’s contribution to scripture.

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    • Twinspeedr
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:18pm

      @MOCON

      The preaching of Jesus MUST carry greater weight than those of any prophet, or disciple. He is the Son of God.

      I know the mainstream “Church” might argue against the idea, but remember the establishment “Church” is made of sinners seeking their own glory and power. The “Church” was originally called “Ekklesia” in Greek. It meant “gathering” or “group”. It wasn’t until the Germans started translating it as “Kirche” that is began getting twisted into some kid of formal organization. These formal organized “Churches” have imposed all kinds of dogma on us, and through the centuries they have sullied the reputation of Jesus’ followers to the the absolute breaking point.

      Learn for yourself, question, study the scripture and understand the word. Don’t parrot back the establishment dogmas unless you have checked it out for yourself. If you don‘t read and study daily you probably don’t know and understand as much as you might think.

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  • Barackalypse Now
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:58pm

    Stop hiding Christianity. It’s not a dirty little secret to be kept in the closet. It’s to be rejoiced and celebrated!

    Kurt Warner can go pound sand.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:34pm

      Jesus said to pray in closets, and PREACH in public. Prayer is personal and should be KEPT that way. Don’t you see there is a difference between prayer and preaching? Prophets PREACH out loud to people and tell them to repent. They don’t PRAY out loud and hope people notice. See the difference?? Besides its clear. Jesus said to pray in your secret places, your closets, after you have shut the door, etc. OBEY that.

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  • davidfair
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:58pm

    That’s a shame. I like Kurt Warner, but he’s just flat out wrong.

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    • Goodgriefgeezlouise
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:41pm

      I agree..I didn’t even know Warner was a Christian..But I sure know Tebow is..and he walks the walk..I wonder why so many feel uncomfortable with a guy who is solid as a rock in his convictions?…Being a Bears fan, I would never care about a Denver or Tim Tebow highlight..But knowing what I know about him, I can’t wait to see what he has done each week..He still has a lot to learn as an NFL QB but he teaches me something about standing up for Jesus everytime I watch him..and that my friends, is the reason he is doing impossible things..God Bless you Tim and keep fighting the good fight..

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  • Unix
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:57pm

    All I can say is why, Kurt? I happen to believe he can be as BOLD as he wants to be, God Bless him. Tebow is a class act, anyone denegrating him, or ill advising him, should take a look in the mirror sometime.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:40pm

      You can be bold in preaching, in talking, and in answering questions. But start to say your prayers in public, that’s an entirely different thing. I am surprised that some christians do not read and adhere to the plain and simple Sermon on the Mount that Jesus Christ taught. Certainly is must carry the most weight. Jesus’ words are clear. He talked of praying in private, and he also taught to preach the gospel. Preaching is NOT praying. They are different.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:56pm

    Warner can say what he likes & Tebow can continue to wear his religion on his sleeve. I would go so far as to say if a Muslim would like to say prayers on the sideline while he waits for his number to be called out, I’m good with that too. Ultimately, it’s up to the NFL. If you can’t lay a QB out without getting a flag, what‘s to say they won’t stop religious folks from expressing their religion while on the clock? I don’t mind the free expression of religion in a game, just don’t detract from the game itself.

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  • The10thAmendment
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:55pm

    Mr. WARNER, you should be ashamed of your own weak spirit, which is nothing more than your own shame.

    I can’t stand cowards.

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  • americanfirst
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:55pm

    I agree – Tebow should get as much latitude as anyone else does for their lifestyle choices and nothing less. Most other folks in the limelight will usually exhibit other more wordly actions. Seriously, if he was grabbing his crotch or air-humping everytime he scored it’d be a non-issue.
    The interesting fact is that – his choice of actions are elevated and selfless, while all other actions exhibited by the more wordly crowd are usually base, degrading and self-serving and the one we seem to have a collective problem with is the one that strives for the more uncomfortable (and lonely) higher standard
    You’d think the correction should be ours… and not Tim Tebow’s!
    Here we have an oppotunity to stand up for our highest of values (which he does) and instead we shrink – to avoid the ensuing discomfort that may follow with doing the right thing.
    This is at the core of the issue of what real Christians face habitually, right? To show up or not to show up because it’s too hard!
    Go on Tebow for manning up! I’ll stand as a witness…

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:00pm

      You only get to be COOL if you are a wife beater or a DOG KILLER! Ugh

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Christianity is NOT in competition with secularism. Once you play that game you have unelevated christianity to a mere show. That’s not what its all about. Its about being sincere, NOT prideful. There is nothing more of a turn off than a self righteous christian.

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    • ahenager2
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:09pm

      @symphonic
      Correction. Self-righteous non-Christians trying (incorrectly) to tell Christians that scripture commands them to hide their faith is a WAY bigger turnoff.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:45pm

      @ahenager2 I am a christian. I believe Jesus Christ and follow the Sermon on the Mount. I read the words of Paul and I interpret his sometimes/often obscure and ambiguous teachings in light of what Jesus actually said, and make sure that what Paul says does not contradict what Jesus said. Jesus is so plain. However, many christians have tried to interpret the words of Paul to absolve them of ANY personal responsibility in their faith. Thinking that if they only just believe, and don’t worry about works like James taught we MUST, they stick with Paul because Paul slammed the works component… only because Paul was speaking to people who were STILL at that time practicing the Law of Moses and so Paul wanted to shake things up with them.

      James on the other hand, was talking to the saints who already believe… and he was teaching them not to be lazy now just because the Law of Moses was fulfilled in Christ. James taught “faith without works is DEAD, being alone.” THERE YOU GO. Read Jesus first.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:49pm

      @ahenager2, secondly, you got it wrong when you suggest that I am saying to hide your faith. No I’m not. I am saying hide your prayers. Keep your self righteous trumpet prayers to yourself where they belong, in your bedrooms and closets where Jesus commanded you do that. Yes he did COMMAND this if you would only read the Sermon on the mount and convince yourself. How can you go on ignoring Jesus Christ’s teachings and think that you are going to have any place in heaven doing that, it makes no sense.

      Do NOT hide your preaching. Do not hide your boldness. Do NOT be ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. When someone ASKS you a question, answer it with boldness. But do not bust out in a prayer in a public place and think for one minute that you are doing any good at all, because it comes under the casting pearls before swine doctrine, and besides most important of all, Jesus said NOT to do it. Deal with that first. Read Jesus.

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    • ahenager2
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 3:57pm

      @symphonic
      You’ve heard Tebow pray in public? Can you recall what he said? He doesn’t seek camaras to “tebow” in front of. I gathered from your earlied comments that you were a non-Christian (you refer to evangelicals in the third person) and I apologize for that error. However you are off base criticising Tebow. I defy you to gove an instance where Tebow spoke in prayer for the sake of a camera or microphone. It is my sincere desire to be in constant prayer. By your theory, am I doing this counter to God‘s command if I’m praying quietly and without pretense? I think you’re wrong on this one.

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  • jungle J
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:54pm

    Warner is the sane voice of experience…quit preaching and take care of the widows and the orphans and God will be greatly pleased with your actions and attitude..or God is a liar. Todays Christianity = more talk than action.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:00pm

      You mean like this – http://www.timtebowfoundation.org/

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Lol oh boy he has a foundation. It’s called a tax shelter. There’s a reason everyone with money starts their own foundations rather than just contributing to one of the two billion other organizations already out there. It’s a little trick every celebrity and athlete have been using for oh thirty or so years now.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:22pm

      The Tim Tebow Foundation was envisioned by Tim while an undergraduate at The University of Florida (UF). His desire was to launch the Foundation even as a college student but NCAA regulations for athletes prohibited him from doing so. Instead, Tim, along with several other UF students, launched First and 15 under the auspices of the Office of Student Government and with NCAA approval.

      First and 15 allowed Tim to mobilize hundreds of students on campus and UF boosters for a number of important charities. It raised funds for Uncle Dick’s Orphanage in the Phillipines and Shands Hospital pediatric cancer center in Gainesville. It supported a special Disney trip for disadvantaged children and gave birth to other exciting projects. “Tim Tebow made volunteering time and raising money for worthwhile causes fashionable on our campus” said Coach Urban Meyer of Tim and his charitable efforts at UF. Upon finishing his four years as a collegiate athlete, he immediately launched the Tim Tebow Foundation in January 2010.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:23pm

      So just how much money did Tim have when he started this venture?

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    • ArizonaMom3
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:23pm

      Tebow is a Christian Soldier, if Warner isn’t willing to “march” okay but show the young warrior the respect he is due old man.

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Nice going ROWGUE…and remove any semblance of actual good intentions. I don’t thinks so, pal…
      I believe in humanity and in people’s inherent goodness. Really! If people lose that it‘s because they’ve been ttrained otherwise.
      You‘d think you’d start with giving people the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves unworthy and not the other way around.
      I’m not that cynical bro! I believe….

      Mitt Romney 2012! :)

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:53pm

      Believe whatever you like, I’m not stopping you.

      The truth of the matter is that the vast majority of foundations primary purpose is as a tax shelter. I’m sure there are some people that actually want to do good through their foundations but those are by far the exception to the rule, and it’s usually a secondary concern.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:15pm

      We’re talking about Tim Tebow. Are you saying that in the case of Tim’s foundation, that he knew he was going to become a millionaire early on in college, and came up with a scheme, fooling the NCAA, to create a foundation that he would some day use as a tax shelter?

      Or am I safe to assume that by your last response, you are saying Tim is an exception to the rule…

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    • ahenager2
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 3:18pm

      @rowgue
      do you have anything to offer other than aimless cynicism? Even if what you suggest is true, “most foundations” have nothing to do with Tim Tebow specifically. You know nothing of the man but you seem inclined to think the worst of him. That’s sad.

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    • Azzman
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 9:46am

      Owned.

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  • Greenie40
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:53pm

    The more people rag on this kid the more I like him. At least he believes in something and is not afraid stand up for that belief.

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:05pm

      And as far as I see, he’s walkin the walk. It’s not his fault that christians are being taking the brunt of all the PC garbage in our society. If he were a muslim, the hollywood elite would be rallying a round him. Tolerance and diversity don’t count when christians are mixed into the equation.

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  • broker0101
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:52pm

    Wow, a “devout” Christian telling other people how to behave, SHOCKER!

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    • americanfirst
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:00pm

      You’ve obviously missed the point that the reason he is being held in contempt is because of his outward expression of faith.
      if anything, Christians are the ones being told just how and when they are allowed to express their faith.
      I think, personally – I’ve had just about enough of that!
      Especially since we are, in fact, a Christian nation!

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Broker, your ability to completely ignore the story and pick out a talking point to support whatever argument you want to make continues to impress me. I must ask how you accomplish such a feat?

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:51pm

    I’m actually surprised that the progressives “let” Tebow play.
    By now I thought they would find some way to get him out of football since he is as visible as a Christmas tree on the White House lawn.
    Keep doing what you believe in, Mr. Tebow..let the atheists and liberals deal with it. You don’t have to change anything.

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Instead of trying to drag Tim down and into Kurt’s “safe” little bubble of silence, maybe Kurt needs to re-evaluate himself. What is it about Giving The Glory To God that bothers Kurt? Until Kurt figures that out, he needs to Shut Up and Sit Down.

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  • KwikKarl
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:51pm

    “But he says that as soon as someone talks about his or her love for Jesus Christ, “the guard goes up.” He continued, “I came to realize you have to be more strategic.””

    Apparently Kurt’s guard went up. As long as Tim walks his talk, keep proclaiming his name, for that matter even if you/we stumble, keep proclaiming his name….

    Exodus 9:16 And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:57pm

      People have no problem hearing Christ’s name taken in vain. But when someone actually uses Jesus’s name for anything other than a cuss word, they get offended.

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:09pm

      Spot on ,Brother!

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:30pm

      People who complain about Tebow’s outward demonstration of faith are not offended. They are afraid. No matter what words they use to profess their reasons for being offended, deep down they are afraid. It is sad.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:34pm

      Or they/we are ashamed knowing that we should be doing the same as Tim, but just don‘t ’claim’ the boldness to do so.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 9:55pm

      Not ashamed. Concerned. Concerned that there are so many christians brainwashed by the pastors and preachers who have taught them to make prayer spectacles in public places, that they have NOT bothered to read the New Testament, the Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5-7) and find out that Jesus actually taught that we should NOT pray to be seen of men, and then Jesus COMMANDS us to pray in our CLOSETS and secret places. Here is it, although I still think you will NOT follow it, because that is the disobedient evangelical way?

      6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

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    • KwikKarl
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 11:27pm

      With Tim, this isnt really about praying in public to be seen. Tim OPENLY gives praise to Jesus everytime he has the opportunity.

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  • SavedByTheLamb
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:50pm

    Tebow has people talking about Jesus. And that’s a good thing.

    Kurt is a great Christian, who puts his faith in action. But not everyone receives the same nudge from the Holy Spirit.

    Praise God from whom all Blessings Flow!

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:09pm

      No Tebow has people talking about Tebow and how phony they think his gestures are.

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    • beckwasfox
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 5:15pm

      Tebow inspires me! To my shame I have never displayed my faith in such a bold fashion within the workplace. There is nothing phony about this young man. Praise God for Tim Tebow!

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  • B-Neil
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:46pm

    Man those Ant-eaters, I mean Atheists are going to be all over this story. You just wait and see. Football is for Atheists not Christians. Man you’ve had it now. CARRY ON McDUFF

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:03pm

      Yet the cheer for the revered wife beating, dog killers? GO TEBOW, you are a fine role model for young men everywhere!

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  • Mandors
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:46pm

    We’ve gone down the road of secular self-indulgence and materialism for half a century. Look where it’s gotten our society. I, for one, find Tim Tebow’s profession of his faith refreshing.

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  • Berbel73
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:45pm

    Hey Kurt if Tebow wants to pray I say let him, what business is it of yours what he does anyway? Just because you go to church on Sunday, that doesn’t make you a Christian. If someone is uncomfortable or offended by Tebow’s praise of Jesus Christ that is their problem. This country has been going down the toilet because we Christians have been shamed into not professing our faith and I think Tim Tebow deserves our admiration for taking a stand against those who would try and silence us.

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  • smackdown33
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:45pm

    Warner means well. He is a good man, and there is some real world validity to what he is saying.

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    • Cedi
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:52pm

      Exactly, Warner has accomplished much with his faith, his life has reflected his commitment to God.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:42pm

    Keep your opinion to yourself. Who are you to tell this young man how to be gratefull for the chance to play a game he loves? It’s great to see someone be open about their faith and not care what others think.

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    • DeHo
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 10:21am

      I like how Rolling Stone prematurely published the article “God Fumbles”, ridiculing Tebow. Now he’s 5-1. Do they retract and say “God Scores!”? Doubt it. Their MO is to make fun of anything moral, decent and respectable, and to promote anything vile, base and progressive.

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  • Cedi
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:42pm

    Maybe you guys need to listen to what Warner is saying. He is absolutely right, and Gonzo, if you didnt know Kurt Warner was a Christian then you havent been paying attention.

    Kurt Warner has been on of the few guys in sports that has walk the talk. Tebow is a good kid, but wisdom is attained by listening to others.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:54pm

      You’re right, I haven’t paid attention to Warner. Warner needs to live his faith how he wants and let Tebow live his faith the way he wants. If he wants to talk to him privately, fine and dandy. Coming out in the press about his brother in Christ sure isn’t Christian. Maybe Warner should pull the plank from his eye before he worries about Tebow’s sliver.

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    • mydh12
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:07pm

      I love Tebow’s enthusiasm andcommitment to Christ, but I remember how tired I got of Muhammed Ali always first talking about Allah and Mohammed after his fights. I mean, if you can tone it down a bit, people will receive it better when you actually do then talk about your faith. Warner has some good common sense on how Tebow can be more effective in his outreach. Pick your spots.

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  • ltb
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:39pm

    Mk 8:38 “If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels.”

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    • neverending
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:58pm

      Spells it out pretty clearly.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Here is the COMMANDMENT of Jesus Christ that all of you overzealous evangelicals seem to totally ignore. A COMMANDMENT:

      Matthew 6:5

      5 ¶And when thou prayest, THOU SHALT NOT BE as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

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    • 4theRepublic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 2:57pm

      @symphonic: and how exactly do you know what Tim’s(or anyone else who point to the sky, take a knee, form a cross over their chest, etc) intentions are? You are correct in one aspect: ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE HIM! So keep pulling out the only quotes that make you feel good about yourself. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you (Matthew 7:12).”

      However, he has my admiration to let his light shine in a world devout to bash anything Christian! and Shame on Kurt for trying to tell him to hide his candle under a basket…

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Symphonic…You should not quote a book that you do not understand.

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  • righthanddrive
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:36pm

    Will Mr. Warner please make the same request to Al Q and their jihadist?

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    • Cedi
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:43pm

      Why? Do they do touchdown dances?

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  • Mapache
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:35pm

    Maybe Kurt Warner should mind his own business. It seemingly doesn’t bother anyone when players in the end zones are simulating sex acts, violence or simply make extravagant “ME ME ME, LOOK at ME!” demonstrations, but let Tebow make a demonstration of faith and everyone goes nuts and feels as if they have to comment. I don’t get it.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:02pm

      That’s exactly what tebow is doing with his actions. He’s drawing attention to himself not his faith. If he just wanted to praise god he could do that on the sideline and not make a presentation out of it. His entire purpose is to say look at me, look how religious I am. His celebration is no less idiotic than any of the others you mentioned.

      Personally any on field celebration that is anything other than yelling and jumping and just general excitement in the heat of the moment should be flagged for delay of game. The game was much more palletable before Ickey Woods ushered in the age of choreographed celebrations. Now every idiot that gets a sack has some moronic dance, every receiver that catches a five yard pass has their stupid gestures, and anytime anyone actually manages to get in the endzone there is a two minute long rehersed production.

      The most respectable guys on the field now for the most part are kickers, because they just go do their jobs and don‘t act like buffoons every time they manage to do what they’re getting paid to do.

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    • symphonic
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:39pm

      He is doing the same thing in an understate way, but BECAUSE it is religious it is a big deal. I think we all know why. Jesus taught NOT to do this, commanded with a THOU SHALT NOT. Listen:

      Matthew 6:5

      5 ¶And when thou prayest, THOU SHALT NOT BE as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

      I don‘t know why so many christians don’t seem to get this. Its as if they never read the Sermon on the Mount. Its as if they never read the MOST IMPORTANT DOCTRINES and teachings of Jesus Christ whom they profess to believe. I think they ignore it because they think its too hard, and so they snap up a few snippets from Paul that seem to say something different. Well, DON’T do that. Obey the Lord and stop misinterpreting Paul.

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    • beckwasfox
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 5:25pm

      Rowgue, It is clear that you have never watched Tim Tebow. He quietly takes a knee and prays at different times during the game whether they win or lose(usually on the sideline). When the game is over he prays with team mates and opposing players. When the press interview him he concludes the interview by saying “God Bless”.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 11:05am

      @ MAPACHE: Those “ showboat ” players do not give God credit for giving them the athletic ablilty and talent to be football “ stars ”. For me, I would rather see a player do the “ Tebow ” in the end zone than a showboater doing some goofy girations. Tim Tebow is the real deal and the media and some players do not know how to deal with that. Professional athletes are role models whether they like it or not; some are positive and some are not. God Bless Tim Tebow !

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on December 1, 2011 at 12:34pm

    Hey Kurt, I never knew you were a Christian. Is that what you want from Tebow? That isn’t going to happen…and that’s why I like the kid so much.

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    • dlmarsh
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:01pm

      I guess you don’t remember when the St. Louis Rams won the Super Bowl in 2000 and Kurt Warner was the quarterback. After the game when they had the Tropy ceremony and interviewed Warner, the first thing he did was say “thank you Jesus,”. And he also did it after winning the Championship before that, so I am not sure how you couldn’t know he was a Christian. Maybe you only see and hear what you want to see and hear?

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on December 1, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Kurt Warner can‘t help the fact that you’re a moron.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 8:07am

      Rowgue, How would you feel if Tebow came out and bashed your hero Warner in the press? You wouldn’t have a problem with that I guess? It’s a two way street genius.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 8:13am

      DLMarsh, so he wins the Superbowl and thanks Christ, good for him. Tebow thanks Christ win, lose or draw. To come out and publicly bash him for it is not Christian. If it was a private conversation between the two men, I have no problem with it. Tebow could come back at him publicly but, I‘ll bet you that won’t happen. Which is the best example, slinging mud in the press or turning the other cheek?

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    • ckmarti53
      Posted on December 2, 2011 at 12:07pm

      yep and as for the husband/wife comparison, didn’t Jesus also compare our relationship with God and the church to that of a man and woman getting married? And again, he wants us to be Bold Believers and not to be afraid to sing his praises.

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    • CapnBill
      Posted on December 6, 2011 at 9:41am

      Warner turned people of constantly by wearing his religion on his sleeve, but never as much as Tebow. I think he gives good advice.

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