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MSNBC‘s Lawrence O’Donnell Responds to Beck: ‘We Are All Socialists Now’

On his Tuesday night version of “Last Word” Lawrence O‘Donnell went after Glenn Beck for seizing on O’Donnell’s admission last Friday that he was a socialist. In an over seven minute explanation, O’Donnell concludes, “we are all socialists now”:

Here’s my take (usually reserved for the blog, but I’ll include it here).

The most surprising part of O‘Donnell’s follow-up is his defense. He doesn‘t say that he’s not a socialist, just that we all are. In doing so, he explains a sort of  “gotcha” moment directed towards Beck, saying that last week was not a sudden outburst of the heart (as Beck had portrayed it)– no, he‘s admitted before he’s a socialist, along with Bill Maher (and they both threw Barack Obama into their fold). Take that.

“I started saying things like that publicly over ten years ago,” O’Donnell said. “What I’ve been trying to do by saying it is make people understand what socialism is, and that every taxpayer in this country, every social security recipient, every medicare beneficiary, and everyone who uses the post office is participating in successful socialism, practical socialism every day.”

“We need to take the political sting out of the word socialist,” he added, and then explained that there is good socialism and bad socialism (he’s a proponent of the good kind). And right before showing the infamous Newsweek cover that takes the same approach, he boasts that the magazine drew the same conclusion he did 16 years earlier: “we are all socialists now.”

There’s a lot in there. Let’s recap:

  1. I said I was a socialist
  2. Beck pointed it out
  3. WAIT, but I’ve said it before, so don’t take so much joy in it, Beckster
  4. We are all socialists because our economy is mixed: there’s comrade Boehner, Paul, Obama, and even Beck
  5. Unless you advocate for the repeal of everything that has even a hint of socialism, you are socialist
  6. There’s good and bad socialism: I like the good kind
  7. Newsweek was right, but I said it 16 years before its editors even thunked it
  8. “We are all socialists now”

I’m sure Beck will respond. But here‘s what I can’t get past. In his on-air admission last Friday, O’Donnell used the “socialist” designation to separate himself from “mere” liberals and progressives, not to point out how similar he was to them. If what he really meant was that we’re all socialists, how come he used it as a unique identifier?

A final thought: isn’t saying we are all socialists, all the same with no real differences, so, well, socialistic?

Comments (214)

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  • benrush
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:24am

    Here’s how you tell: If you use the post office, you’re socialist.
    If you use UPS, you’re not.

    So intellectually deep.

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    • FaithHopeCharity45
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:41pm

      That is hysterical! You can’t make this crap up….We’re all socialists because we use the post office??? O’Donnell is a fool. No one can compete with Glenn and as much as they try to justify themselves, the more they are revealing themselves to all of us. Keep you up you socialist weenie.

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  • seeker9
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:22am

    Good socialism and bad socialism. Who decides? If you benefit, you like it. If you pay for it, you’re against it. If you are in the ruling elite, you can siphon off prosperity. The ruling elites want their luxuries and perks and have no intention of living like the middle class. When hard times come, the middle class will be expected to share the sacrifice. Progressives keep adding to the government provided goodies to get votes. What’s next? Housing, food, job, education? You can give a job, but you cannot order excellence. Why work if everything is provided for free? You soon run out of other people’s money.

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  • stinkybisquit
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:22am

    In other words, “You’re being raped; you might as well lay back and enjoy it.”

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  • HippoNips
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:19am

    It‘s funny that people who call themselves socialist don’t know what socialism is. They confuse and include anything a government does with what socialism really is.
    Socialism is the government owning or heavily controlling the means of production. It’s an economic policy and not like rooting for your favorite baseball team.
    The post office operates , and badly , on revenues from the people who USE it. Yes, it‘s run by the government and yes it’s subsidized by taxpayer money, but not by design. It’s suppose to be run completely on revenues from stamps.
    It’ proof the free market is best and that the feds can not run a thing without wasting money .
    Social Security is an account of YOUR money, that you get doled back to you in you later years.
    It is going belly up BECAUSE the feds handle it, not despite the fact they do.
    Medicare is insurance run by the goverment, an insurance policy that the individual has to pay…..goverment run and in the red.
    None of this is the government owning the means of production.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:40am

      @Hipponips

      Well said. You’re correct, he truly has no idea what socialism is, in fact as you say, most people do not, hence the sophistry we see being displayed by O’Donnel.

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  • Comeandtakeit
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:18am

    “every taxpayer in this country, every social security recipient, every medicare beneficiary, and everyone who uses the post office is participating in successful socialism” – Successful???? Coercion in a enterprise (the post office) that didn’t offer overnight or second day service until they were challenged by competition of Fed Ex and UPS. Medicare and Medicaid WILL go bankrupt, Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that is sure to collapse. This is his idea of successful. Socialism HAS NEVER been a success. See Greece, France, UK (yesterday). Are these successes? I say no. Capitalism (Not CRONY Capitalism) and the free market have made America the strongest and greatest country in less than 200 Years. Compare that to all of Europe who have gone the socialist route and declined. Is that really where we would want to travel, well hold on because we are on the path. Thanks Pelosi, Reid, and Obama.

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  • matinva
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:17am

    Look at all the ‘programs’ this idiot calls out as being part of ‘Socialist’ America; SS, Medicare, and (this is almost too funny for words) the Postal Service. All of these ‘programs’ are bankrupt or close to it. All are bereft with incalculable fraud and waste and increasing numbers of Americans are losing faith in them all. The Post Office in my town began closing on Saturdays a couple of months ago. Saturday mail delivery, as a casualty, is not far behind. They lose Billions of dollars every year. SS and Medicare are going broke at breakneck speeds and this clown holds them up as come kind of success story. Entitlement programs have left us Trillions in debt with no end in sight. This was not what America was intended to be, folks. Socialism is a fraud. The only equality it provides is to leave EVERYONE equally poor while the elites live well. Mr O’donnell fancies himself among the elites. That should say it all.

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  • VoiceofReason
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:17am

    They are unmasking themselves!

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  • cjt1957
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:15am

    If the POST OFFICE, Social Security, and Medicare are examples of “successful” Socialism, God save us all…..

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  • dantom
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:14am

    The recent election has broiught all the loons out of hiding it must realy hurt them.

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  • Star Spangled
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:14am

    I am NOT socialist ! O”Donnell wishes we were all like him .

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  • amerbur
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:09am

    Reporters of the Blaze, please pull up all the slander, repeated by the media on MSMBC claiming tea party members crazy for calling and carrying signs that identified Obama and his administration socialist. This proves these people to be ruthless, gutless, Smeagol type characters. Glad you finally crawled out of the slim where we can deal with you.

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  • cjherin
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:08am

    When Glenn discussed O’Donnell on the radio show the other day, I seem to remember Stu saying O’Donnell has said he was a socialist before.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:08am

    Lawrence O’Donnell is an irrelevant talking head on an irrelevant network. Do programmers really think that having an avowed socialist on the air is a ratings booster? Good luck with that geniuses.

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  • Reasonabiliy
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:08am

    The reason we have socialistic tendencies at all is because of our tax structure which is progressive in nature so politicians can bribe the masses. If we could start a low rate flat tax or a consumption tax and dump this progressive tax system we have now, we could really watch the decline of socialism. Socialists would dry up like so many fish gasping for air on the river bank.

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  • clockwatcher
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:06am

    Radio Havana has an open slot. Get a job in Cuba the workers paradise. Another liberal fool with failed plans to bring social justice to America. We don’t want social justice. We want the government to get it’s foot off our necks and to remove their hands from our pockets.

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  • jim1flyer
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:05am

    So now the attempt here is to normalize socialism? Didn’t we just see a video of how communists are just regular people? So to stand back and sum this up we’re all just a bunch of socialist/communists and those that are capitalists are the odd ones because now there’s no such thing. I gotta admit it’s a brilliant strategy but like everything else the left does in normalizing the few and vilifying the many, it wont work. We’re not as dumb as you and George think.

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  • bry
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:02am

    I am not a socialist…O’Donnell sounds anti-social to me. Don’t expect him at any tea parties.

    As for Social security…first of all, that was in place long before I got here, but I would be very happy just to get back the money I have put into it. I have never counted on it for my retirement. I save my own money for that. Retirement does sound like a fantasy now anyway.

    How can I retire, I have to pay for health care for 26 year old “children”.
    How can I retire if medicare is slashed to pay for the poor defenseless 20 somethings. Don’t worry kids, grandma can take care of you. She can’t see you because she can not have her cataracts removed. Not covered any more. At least that broken hip won’t put her in a wheel chair. She can’t afford one.
    Yes O”Donnell, thanks to you and the other brain dead, we are all socialists now. But we are fighting back.

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  • popeyebedford
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:00am

    Lawrence Odonnell is a mediocre bitter little talking head, with no talent and little to say of interest to anyone but his Marxist clan. So who cares what Mrs Odonnells little boy says…

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    • starman70
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:45am

      Well, he speaks for the entire cast and the mamagement and ownership of MSNBC. What else could he be expected to say? Even if he thought differently, he would have to repeat and revere the policy or lose his high paying job.

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  • GhostOfJefferson
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:56am

    Interesting tactic. He’s redefining any governmental participation as participation in socialism. That’s like saying “Hey, you waved at your neighbor, a social act, ergo, you’re a socialist”.

    This is what used to be called “sophistry”, back when people studied philosophy and rhetoric. And this guy doesn’t even rise to the status of lightweight as a sophist. I mean really, did he really pull something that sophomoric out of his nether region and expect it to fly? Really?

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    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:02am

      You said it, comrade!! You got to get up awful early in the gulag to get one past us! Last night as I drifted off wistfully to sleep, while listening on my I-phone Dear Leader Obammy recite the day’s current “enemies” list, I was just thinking about how wonderful our Postal Services, Dept. of Education, and all of our Office of Entitlements were making our country what it is today. Leap Forward, comrade!! Those reds have no chance of gaining any ground in this here America! Silly Socialists….tricks are for kids.

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    • flyguync
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:56pm

      I completed a career in the military and currently draw a government pension – I guess that makes me a socialist? Sounds like this guy is backpeddling.

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  • Conserving Ink
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:54am

    Does living in a socialist country make you a socialist? I think it’s something you have to believe and feel. Even though I live in a Socialist ‘light’ America, I only believe in the ‘America’ part. I am not a socialist.

    http://conserving-ink.blogspot.com/

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  • felina g
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:53am

    Glenn

    I am hoping you go over today or in the near future what happens with the UNIONS. NOT the crooked leaders, but the “useful idiots”. What did your mother-in-law discover ? Why didn`t she see it ?? What woke her up ? What can they do NOW ? I suppose the best thing (again) is to wake other people up who are willing to listen.

    PLEASE discuss this on TV ! I feel like they aren`t preparing because they have been promised they will be taken care of. There is no honor among theives. Think they need to talk to some Czech`s et.al.

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    • Lesterp
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:38am

      Great talking points! I hope he takes your advice.

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  • teahugger
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:52am

    Yeah, social security, medicare and the post office are all shining examples of success. Socialism is tyranny…no such thing as good tyranny. God help these people.

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  • WireWizard
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:51am

    The Post Office loses money every year
    Social Security-Bankrupt
    Medicare/Medicaid-corrupted by fraud

    Yup, those are great examples of why we would all want to be Socialists- NOT!

    Where is John Galt?

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    • NoName22
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:42am

      Who* is John Galt?

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    • americaneagle
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:20am

      This was the first thing I though when I read this story and am surprised more people aren’t talking about it. The post office is in ruins and is hemorrhaging tax money because they have an insolvent business model. I heard they removed the clocks to solve the problem of long wait times and have never been in one of their offices that wasn’t filled with inefficient workers. I love getting mail delivered to my house but he may want to research his examples before he starts showing how good bondage and slavery are going to be for Americans.

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    • urzasbrewtech
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:29am

      I had similar thoughts of the examples he pointed out as socialism, they are broken and do not work and need something different and just for FYI, John Galt is a character created by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged…..nice reference.

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  • Stuck_in_CA
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:50am

    The destructive slide into socialism is nearing the point of no return. Half of the population is receiving government $$$. It may already be too late. Will there have to be a complete collapse before it can be righted?

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:58am

      When the Bureaucrat replaces the “free market” with a regulation, we all lose. Every regulation gives a political crony a windfall at the expense of the general population. Printing money is not the only cause of inflation!

      If you believe that the tyrants act in the best interest of the individual, consider the following quote:

      “If the government is to tell big business men how to run their business, then don’t you see that big business men have to get closer to the government even than they are now? Don’t you see that they must capture the government, in order not to be restrained too much by it? Must capture the government? They have already captured it.”

      The quote is from an early wannabe tyrant, Woodrow Wilson in 1913. Since then each encroachment on our individual liberty has caused problems that have been used to justify more tyranny.

      THE DEVASTATING AFFECT OF THE BUREAUCRACY:

      Rules and regulations created and enforced by the “Fourth Branch of Government” (the bureaucracy) that restrict innovation, inhibit the creation of wealth and provide advantages to the “technologically challenged” are the root cause of our problems. Inflation, credit and failure of financial institutions are just the symptoms, an attempt to cover up the failure of “disastrous centralized planning.”

      Money manipulation is simply a method of misappropriation of wealth. Wealth must be created before it can be misappropriated and the Bureaucracy inhibits the creation of wealth.

      Our problems started when the bureaucracy obtained significant power during Roosevelt’s (T) Administration. About 10 years later the Fed Was created and it’s been downhill every since.

      Chapter 8 (The Bureaucracy – ICC) of “21st Century Common Sense” addresses this point in detail, including a description of the “Iron Triangle” (control of the bureaucracy by special interest) and an enlighten quote by Woodrow Wilson highlighting the capture of the Bureaucracy by “special interest.”

      The bibliography on my website allows you to visit the websites used for the book’s research just by “control-clicking” on the website address.

      http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:03am

      Unfortunately, I think there may have to be a complete meltdown. How many people will be lost if hyper-inflation hits and we become the next Weimar republic. It all goes back to the whim of one person, George Soros, aka spooky dood. I f you have been watching Beck the last couple of nights, you know what I’m talking about. If not, Google George Soros, you’ll be educated.

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  • HouseNegro
    Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:46am

    His brain or whatever is up their. Must rattle around like a BB in a Box car…….

    SpankDaMonkey  
    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:51am

      You say we are all socialists and then claim not to be a socialist? Well, is this not the same as calling a mad wolverine a very harmless little kitten? He is a socialist by his own words, and then he tries to justifies it…just admit you have lied O’Donnell, get over it and then quit. But then again what could we expect from MSNBC.

      My God this man is a perfect mouthpeice for the Socialist Progressive propaganda machine indeed.

      Gods above man, we are not China and not Cuba!!!

      These two nations are not socialist, they are COMMUNISTS!!!

      Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}  
    • Marc Jacobs
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:02am

      “good and bad socialism”? sounds like a joke from Larry David’s “Curb Your Enthusiasm” In one episode Larry asked if a someone had the good or bad Hodgkins Disease. The joke, of course, is that thiere is no good kind of this particular disease. ditto socialism.

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    • Geoph
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:04am

      Socialist?
      I’m a Free Market Capitalist!
      In fact, I recall when being a “card carrying liberal” was political suicide. Now claiming to be a socialist, a hair’s breath from communist, is a badge of courage?

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    • Freelancer
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:12am

      Anyone else notice that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the programs he mentioned are ALL FAILING or are BANKRUPT? Proud socialist huh?

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    • DrammyCoke
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:14am

      Soo….. he’s a socialist and not a liberal…. got it!

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    • geminisailor
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:21am

      You can bet your bottom dollar that these people intend to brainwash our kids into believing that socialism is a-ok. They’re rewriting the books in our schools to teach them that from their young ages…it’s already worked somewhat because a major portion of our voting age young elected BHO.

      Folks, we need to educate our kids on the dangers of socialism and communism!!!

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    • AnotherWay
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 8:39am

      In his “Theory of Moral Sentiments” Adam Smith grounded healthy capitalism in a deep sympathy and caring for our fellow man. In other words charity.

      According to Smith humans have a natural tendency to care about the well-being of others for no other reason than the pleasure one gets from seeing them happy. He calls this sympathy, defining it “our fellow-feeling with any passion whatsoever”

      The difference between this and socialism is that it is grounded in individual, voluntary acts–not from bureaucrats, panels or the state.

      The best hospitals are church hospitals. The worst are state run hospitals.

      The problem isn’t capitalism–it is the fact that this country isnt capitalistic enough in Smith’s conception of captalism.

      Because if it were in Smith’s conception, charity, values and principles would be as strong as the economic mechanism of the free market. It would be grounded in charity and love.

      And the state is incapable of love. Only individuals can love.

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    • mara123
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:05am

      I didnt know you could use the post office services for free, damn i have been paying all these years to mail things.

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    • southsik
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:17am

      You worthless stupid F__K its Veterans Day and our Military, every branch of it HAS NEVER FOUGHT FOR US BEING A SOCIALIST COUNTRY. This type of talk used to be Treason. How can our Military take it. I don’t get it.

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    • ClassicalLiberal
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:23am

      Government monopolies are the worst because they also have a monopoly on force to prevent competition. No private business, even if huge, can force you to purchase what they provide.

      “The only security men can have for their political liberty, consists in keeping their money in their own pockets” — Lysander Spooner, 19th Century libertarian and entrepreneur who was forced out of the letter-delivery business by the U.S. government. He committed the crime of competition.

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    • kwatch
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:24am

      yes freelance- first thing I thought was – the poffice is failing- I can’t remember how much in debt but it was a ton!- and also – I don’t mail anything free from the post office and socialism is mostly lazy losers get free stuff from workers.

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    • Peters
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 10:24am

      . . . totally lost in the sauce. We have to find out what it is in their brains, in their psyche that does not allow them to progress in their thinking; yet all the while believing that they have thought the end- all of all thoughts and inspirations.

      Here’s a hint; but don’t tell anyone; it’s a secret: narcissism; widespread collective societal wide narcissism . . . but it can be fixed. But observing it, that’s only one thing; beating it is entirely another because it’s all about being on offense . . . unfortunately, something the GOP is not very accustomed to playing. But, perhaps we could teach them . . . .

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:25am

      Bad analogy. if the post office is socialism, it shows the failure of socialism. Anything important is mailed through Fed ex or UPS.

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    • be heard
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:38am

      This guy is scary. We are stuck with the social programs we have now, all including the post office are unsustainable. We do not want the Government to add more social programs or to dictate little things in our lives like what kind of light bulb we can use to how much water we can have in our toilets.. Us non-socialist who are stuck with social programs, are not socialist, and that does not make us racist to say so.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:53am

      anyone been to the post office lately? long lines lousy service shi**y attitudes. and they want more of that? what kind of bad crack are these idiots smoking? good larry the loser odonnell we got your name on the list.

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    • ron the veteran
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 11:58am

      (southsic)
      its very hard not to start going after all them right now. but we will wait and bide our time. if they keep this up we are goimng to have a very violent 15 minutes and they will all be gone. we out number them by millions

       
    • SWFLA
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:36pm

      What an IDIOT!!!! How can he use the Post Office as an example of successful capitalism????

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    • A1955Rosie
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:49pm

      I have no problem w/seeing an assistance to elderly. I do have severe problems of the gluttonous explosion of those programs. I am seeing all sorts of able bodies using this system. Medicare/Medicade is wasteful in testing upon testing upon testing for fear of liabitlity.
      It has become clear that the special interest is a welfare to this country. It is improperly run to perpetuate a job security of special interest & GOVERNMENT!
      A weak economy serves no one and allowes for takeover. We may be socialist now because of our lack or morals and complaceny…BUT IT IS NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE FOR WE HAVE CREATED DEPENDANT MONSTERS.

      A1955Rosie  
    • AnotherWay
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 1:58pm

      Peters-yes! “Pride”, the deadliest of the deadly sins–of more precisely “narcissism.” That is why so many folks love Glenn. He has been through so much that he has stripped away so much–and what is left, more than anything else, is humility. Humility and love (Charity)–the most powerful weapons in the world. The Forces, which combined with Truth, Faith and Hope that will save this great nation.

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    • pajamash
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 3:01pm

      What you have been trying to do Mr. O’Donnell is move the Overton Window.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 4:42pm

      I’m sorry but the post office, social security and medicare have been in the red for years. What part is he talking about that is successful. He needs a teleprompter to try to put a thought together that makes an ounce of sense. Still using too many drugs, I guess.

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    • uneedmorekoolaid
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:49pm

      I feel stupider form watching that!

      He wants to ban all guns in the USA, looks like gun sales are going to go up!

      Oh more people watched this on The Blaze since ot was posted then the number people that have watched his show, without be forced to do so, in the past year! how you like them apples little socialist lover boy!

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    • jds7171
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 7:50pm

      Nixon a conservative……that is funny.

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    • longhorn mama
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:18pm

      I used to do a little
      But a little wouldn’t do it
      So a little got more and more.
      Just kept trying
      To get a little better
      Said a little better than before.

      Guns‘N’Roses on being addicted to heroin. Kind of like how our Socialist/Liberal/Progressive/Statist/Democrats are dedicated to redistribution of wealth and the welfare state.
      The intellectually honest of us do already know our economy is riddled with socialism. And those of us who are honest and aware also realize it is a cancer that will destroy the whole system. As Thatcher once said, “Socialism is fine until everyone else’s money runs out.” Bring it on, Larry!

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    • Art Vandalay
      Posted on November 11, 2010 at 9:33pm

      The modern day failure of social security and medicare proves the failure of socialism. China and Cuba are communist. What we fear is the intrusion of the minor aspect of socialism into the harsh rule of communism. We are capatilist not socialist or communist. He is right the failures of socialism were brought to us by a socialist and added to by a communist (Obama) and promoted by proganda (MSNBC). He talks like he is proud to admit that he is associated with these failures and revolutionary radical change. I will never say I am a socialist. They wouldn’t in the eastern Soviet Union and Stalin killed them for it. I won’t be killed for a label.

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