Media

Lawrence O’Donnell Gets in Angry Debate With GOP Rep. Over Gun Control

Lawrence O’Donnell, the self-described communist socialist, invited GOP Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) on his show to comment on a Democratic proposal to ban gun clips that hold over 10 rounds. O’Donnell focused his interview around one question: “Congressman, don‘t you wish Jared Loughner had a smaller capacity ammunition clip when he went to Gabby Giffords’ event in Tuscon?” Franks, however, refused to answer the question directly. And that infuriated O’Donnell.

O‘Donnell’s question, though, wasn’t as much an attempt at honest dialogue as it was an inquiry aimed at a gotcha moment. That’s because the question was a catch 22: If Franks says he does wish Loughner had a smaller clip, he’d be blasted for supporting gun control; if he says he doesn’t, he’d be labeled an angry Tea Partier who wanted the congresswoman dead. Franks didn‘t take O’Donnell’s bait, despite the tantrum-like insistence of the MSNBC host.

O’Donnell, however, didn’t leave any doubt about how he felt when he yelled, “I blame the individual for the first 10 bullets! I blame the law for the next 21 bullets that he fired!” The full segment, along with O‘Donnell’s introduction, is below:

As a final note, O’Donnell goes out of his way to quote a previous statement by Franks saying that if there was one more gun at the scene of the Tucson shooting in the hands of a responsible person. When O‘Donnel’s attempts to corner Franks on that statement fail, he claims a majority of police officer bullets miss their target. Unfortunately, he dos not offer anything to back that up nor does he discuss the context of any officer-involved shooting. Do those errant bullets usually hit bystanders? Do a majority of those shootings take place in rural or urban areas? Do they take place in a house or outside? We will never know.

As O’Donnell says condescendingly at the end of the interview, “don’t be silly.”

(H/T: Mediaite)

Comments (435)

  • eaterofdead
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:07pm

    the anits all ways miss mod choke on a 12 guage. oo buck 9, 30. cal bullets fired at once. times ten.
    fbi sats 9mm single hit to the chest 50 50 chance of living. oo buck to chest less then 1 percent
    for all its worth

    Report Post » eaterofdead  
    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:37pm

      Yessir, you have made the best point yet on this thread. IF the crazies knew anything about Exterior Balistics/Guns/Ammo, we’d all be in a world of hurt more often than not. The handgun is never of any real utility in anything other than DEFENSE. They fail miserably when used in the Assault. The Shotgun or Rifle are far superior depending on the particulars. This guy would have done alot more damage with an 8 shot, 20″ barreled 12Ga. Pump, with #1 Buck for that short of range. OR, he could have chosen a full power center fire rifle from some distance, and taken out two or three individuals per shot, as closely as the targets were packed. OR he could have just Hi Jacked the Cab he came in and driven it through the crowd at 60 or so. Good thing he used a wimpy 9MM Glock, otherwise it might have been really bad.

      Report Post »  
  • mrmikejohnson
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:06pm

    I‘m truly amazing by comments from communists following Loughner’s rampage. Their logic is so twisted and un-American. Alcohol kills hundreds of thousands more people that extended clips. Why aren’t they trying to ban alcohol? If saving a few lives is all the reasoning you need to do something, then ban alcohol. It kills A LOT more people than extended mags………..or else just accept that random things happen in a free society and it‘s not the government’s responsibility to make a new law every time something bad happens.

    Report Post »  
    • Miser
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:00pm

      But the whole point is that guns don’t kill, high capacity magazines don’t kill, alcohol doesn’t kill, motor vehicles don’t kill, swimming pools don’t kill. Living beings kill, especially PEOPLE! Everyone is not a victim. I don’t care how nuts the shooter in AZ was, he was not a victim. He chose to shoot. I don‘t care what the LA teen’s reasoning was in handling the gun in his backpack, he was not a victim. He chose to take a handgun to school and mess with it.

      Report Post »  
  • ltb
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:06pm

    I know this has been said a million times before, but Liberals are morons. So, let me get this straight… according to this dufus interviewing Representative Franks, having a policeman at Giffords’ event would have been a waste of time, because there’s a chance that when the officer fired on the gunman he would have missed. Let me say this again, Liberals are morons.

    Report Post » ltb  
    • Psytoxic
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:00pm

      Apparently the nutjob is a better shot than police officers.

      Report Post » Psytoxic  
    • chickenbig
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:52pm

      I say, a good question is , where were the armed security and police dept.? The dude should have hit the ground after just a couple of shots. I live in Sacramento and believe me when I tell you The Sacramento County Sheriffs Dept. would have made swiss cheese of him.
      Where was the armed security aparatus ?

      Report Post » chickenbig  
  • KEA
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:05pm

    IF, IF, IF IF, IF.

    IF the guy was not a nut it would not have happen! You CANT regulate craziness.

    Clip size has no bearing! Reduce capacity and they just bring TWO guns!

    The assault weapon bann did not mean you CANT get those clips it only meant they can no longer manufacture them! I purchased NUMEROUS high capacity mags during the ban. The ban had NOTHING to do with getting them. It STOPPED the manufature of new ones!

    Report Post »  
  • fishstx777
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:04pm

    Most gun fights are in real close quarters .Odonnel forgot one thing and the most important .the gunman was on the offensive until it was dealt with with the chain of force which happened to be retraint if the chain of use of force was elevate to the defense mode right after he drew his gun meaning if there was more than one armed persons there this would have gave the the victims and a chance to disperse for cover because the perp would have to go for cover or get killed. And for the reasoning of 10 rounds per clip if that was law . this would have gave him incentive to bring more guns to the fight.Take the caroline mc carthey case I dont know where they were situated in that train but if her husband or son were armed they could have drawn the weapons and maybe returned fire, they already had the coverage in the train.

    Report Post »  
  • Marine Recon Dad
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:03pm

    What a dolt! If the shooter was a good shot, he would have killed ten with his ten shots. Thankfully he wasn’t. But if he had, you‘d bet that the discussion would be ’if he had 1 round instead of 10, would we be in this situation?’

    …. there is no pleasing these pinko-commie-socialistic-Constitution-banning bigots, is there….

    Report Post »  
  • eaterofdead
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:03pm

    Add your comments

    Report Post » eaterofdead  
  • middleclassprophet
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:02pm

    What is the answer to the call of the right wing to get help for these mentally ill patients. You are trying to defund HCR and Arizona has wiped even life savings transplant­s from being possible.

    Report Post » middleclassprophet  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:10pm

      What do transplants have to do with mental disorders, pray tell?

      There were a slew of private mental institutions before your beloved welfare state was thrust upon us, which is a step in the right direction. Even simply holding them and feeding/clothing/housing them like that is better than letting them roam the streets. But you folks couldn’t bear a private solution, so you took over with government and now, well, here we are.

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • EqualJustice
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:13pm

      How about after he was KICKED out of school because his professor and class was AFRAID of him, some NON POLITICALLY CORRECT Liberal at that school sent him to a psychiatrist! Maybe his parents should have called the police after his rampage that day? You libs have entitlement money for everything else.. Puhleaseee.. blame on the lack of mental health care services now? Okay. You think THAT would IMPROVE with OBAMACARE? If so, then you really are a frootloop!

      Report Post » EqualJustice  
    • neofan
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:30pm

      Health Care Reform was a flawed bill that was jammed down our throats and it deserves to be repealed ASAP!! How about allowing competition between inurance companies and let people go outside their own states for insurance etc.

      Report Post »  
    • NeoFan
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:09pm

      Ok thats better. I agree with that.

      Report Post »  
  • HIFLO
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:02pm

    PLEASE, PLEASE lefty loons lets have a long drawn out debate on gun control… lets take it all the way to 2012. Gun control has always been such a winner for you guys…

    Report Post »  
  • RightUnite
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:02pm

    Leftist tool, good for nothing freak.

    Report Post »  
  • tmplarnite
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:59pm

    Lawrence O’Donnell, is a hysterical looney!

    Report Post »  
  • mamawalker
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:57pm

    You are so right! This is true just like locks on cars and homes only serve to keep good people out! If someone wants to break in your house, they will. If government bans high cap mags, it will only serve to make them more popular and open up a huge black market. Those against guns will never see the truth!

    Report Post »  
  • Billy12345
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:56pm

    can’t take it anymore I have OCD so bear with me but they are not clips, they are magazines.Clips are for rifles with internal magazines. OK I feel better

    Report Post »  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:07pm

      Thank you sir.

      I’ve noted the same on different threads. Nice somebody else knows the terminology. :)

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • Psytoxic
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:29pm

      Lol, I cringe every time I hear someone say “clip” when they mean “magazine”.

      http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/2019101620

      Report Post » Psytoxic  
    • Billy12345
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:30pm

      that’s cuz I know guns and was taught about how they work and the safety of them

      Report Post »  
    • republitarian
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:39pm

      I don’t know why this drives people nuts, but I’m always careful not to offend them.

      Ask an angler about his fishing pole, and you’ll get the same thing. I think it’s funny.

      Report Post » republitarian  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:55pm

      To be honest, I sometimes slip and make the mistake, it’s easy to do. Try not to though.

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • Billy12345
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:53pm

      like I said I have OCD

      Report Post »  
    • American Saint
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:16pm

      Thank you Billy12345. It has been driving me crazy too!

      Report Post » American Saint  
    • republitarian
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:53pm

      See Billy? It’s not the OCD. BTW I like how your post reads like you really just snapped.

      Psytoxic, thanks. Funny.

      Report Post » republitarian  
  • NoMarxist
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:53pm

    I wish Lawrence O‘Donnel would get down on his knees and thank God that there aren’t a bunch of crazy, gun-toting RIGHT wing lunatics running around loose, because if there were, MSNBC would probably go broke providing security for all of their hate mongering talk show stars.

    Report Post » NoMarxist  
    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 10:06pm

      You have just discovered a new and fertile area of Enterprise here. The requirement for SECURITY, for all manner of Communist Operatives, is now potentially a budding Cottage Industry. The Arizona Crazy has succeeded in bringing these folks their long overdue Reality Break. They’re all having their Moment of Truth experience. Matter not WHY he did what he did, he got it done, and rather handily done at that.

      The “Question De Jur” is now, WHAT/HOW/WHO could have PREVENTED him from doing what he set out to do. And the resounding ANSWER is……….Crickets Chirping……… NOTHING nor NOBODY could have done one damn thing to PREVENT it. And of course what ALL of these MOUTHY COWARDS have to ask themselves now is, “WHO’S NEXT”?????

      Yessir, SECURITY, or at least the ILLUSION of it, will be selling like hot cakes now!!!!!

      Report Post »  
  • republitarian
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:53pm

    Hannity uses that trick all the time. It’s so annoying that I just turn it off.

    Report Post » republitarian  
    • xoke
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:57pm

      Then how do you know he does it all the time, lol.

      That said, I agree, Hannity is hack. Forget about the clip…it’s the overall stupidity of the arguement that you should be addressing.

      Report Post » xoke  
    • republitarian
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:33pm

      Okay… What’s so wrong about an 11rd mag? How about a 9rd mag. Would that make us safer?

      It’s so stupid that I chose to comment on the style of the host and took a swipe at another.

      Report Post » republitarian  
  • MrButcher
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:53pm

    I think O’Donnell is a self-described socialist and not a communist as the article states. There is a difference.

    But, regardless, his point is bad.

    Report Post » MrButcher  
    • M 4 Colt
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:43pm

      No matter what group of anti American losers he wants to be grouped with he just needs to move to Cuba were i am sure he will feel right at home until he opens his big mouth and finds out he no longer has freedom of speech anymore i would just love to see the look on his face as the police drag him away and Larry will be yelling “wait i am one of your”!!!!!!!!!!! you can do this to me, i am an America.

      Report Post »  
    • MrButcher
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:57pm

      I hate to defend this guy but I will.

      Mr. O’Donnell is free to have whatever opinion his wishes when it comes to economics, gun control or America. Americans are not required to have compulsory love of country or its policies. Nor should you suggest they should. What you describe is much more like the Cuba you wish to banish O’Donnell to, “Viva la Revolution!”

      Despite all the chicken-little fears, this country is still operating with difused powers and representitive government.

      “They” aren’t out to get you and strip you of your rights.

      Report Post » MrButcher  
    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:49pm

      Technically speaking you are correct about the subtle differences that exist between a SOCIALIST a COMMUNIST a PROGRESSIVE and a DEMOCRAT.

      But as a practical matter, they are about as different as a COPPERHEAD, a DIAMOND BACK a COBRA and a COTTON MOUTH.

      They are ALL SNAKES, they are ALL ENEMIES of MANKIND, and they ALL should be given the same treatment. A sharp knife, applied to the neck, just behind the head. Works for ALL of them nicely.

      Report Post »  
  • constitutionaldirective
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:51pm

    If you‘re watching MSNBC you’ll believe anything they tell you.. I’m sure Broker will be along shortly to explain it to us common-folk…

    Report Post » constitutionaldirective  
  • xoke
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:51pm

    …cause it takes so long to swap out mags, lol. I just wish the lefties would come out with a list of things they do and don’t like about the constitution. Just be honest thats all. You lefties don’t like the second amendment…just have the intestinal fortitude to come out and say it!

    Wankers.

    Report Post » xoke  
  • 13thgenerati0namerican
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:51pm

    I found a wart on my tail!

    Report Post » 13thgenerati0namerican  
  • constitutionaldirective
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:49pm

    Lawrence O’Donnell,?? Yep .. Useful Idiot.. nothing to see here..

    Report Post » constitutionaldirective  
  • Average_JoeMN
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:47pm

    Why a magazine of ten? Why not eight? Why not three? Why not make every gun a single shot? Perhaps we should all just carry muskets.

    Report Post »  
    • nevragain
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:36pm

      If you follow his logic and they reinstate the ban then a murderer will of course follow the law and only posses 10rnd mags. As soon as another one gets tackled reloading they will say we need a law like in CA where the mag has to be attached to the gun. Then 5rnds, 3rnds, 1rnd. Look up the word infringed Lawrence you Moonbat.

      Report Post » nevragain  
  • Pocono Countryboy
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:47pm

    Ban high cap mags (again) and only those that break the law will have them.

    That’ll solve a lot of problems…Believe that and I‘ve got some ocean front property up here in the Poconos that I’ll sell ya real cheap ;)

    Report Post »  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:05pm

      Well, not quite. I’ll have them too. We tend not to follow unconstitutional “laws” if we can help it.

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • republitarian
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:59pm

      You can still buy one manufactured before the ban, but they can be pricey. And there are the ones we already have.

      Report Post » republitarian  
    • Insipid
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:17pm

      Criminals by definition break the law.

      Report Post » Inbred Jed  
  • NickDeringer
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:46pm

    O’Donnell is a national disgrace. This is a dishonest debate. The real problem is not the size of the stupid clip, it’s the moral bankruptcy of our society.

    Surprise, Larry. When you tell people they’re nothing more than highly evolved animals, don’t be shocked when they act like it.

    Report Post » NickDeringer  
    • TheBMT
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:05pm

      I think every interview he does with people he disagrees(hates) with is pretty absurd to watch. You want to talk about rhetoric being evil and bad on the left… yet you got this guy?

      Report Post »  
    • M 4 Colt
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:26pm

      Were all animals, except for Larry, hes special, this guy needs a mental health review, maybe Barry can make that happen for him with his Obama care that Larry loves so much.

      Report Post »  
    • 101
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:38pm

      Bet Lawrence O’Donnell went home kicked his dog & punched his wife in the mouth after his attempt to shift the blame once again failed… hypothetically posting!

      Half gassed cars don’t drive drunk…nice!

      Report Post »  
    • GONESURFING
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:33pm

      O’Donnell is a loon, and everything he knows is wrong. Typical for MSNBC. Too bad there wern’t any tea party people with guns at this horrible shooting. Things would probably have turned out a lot different and we wouldn’t have this crazy shooter around to put on trial. O’Donnell will newer understand the simple logic of this.

      Report Post » GONESURFING  
  • RobertCA
    Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:41pm

    Let’s start first with STOP KILLING BABIES , sorry guys still outraged by the last horrible news .

    Robert-CA  
    • knotaclu
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:45pm

      you got that right, what a disgusting story. I heard it on the radio and you could even hear the pain in the newsladies voice as she was talking about it.

      Report Post »  
    • neofan
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:47pm

      You’re off topic CA Bob. Get a grip dude.

      Report Post »  
    • Oh, God!
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:49pm

      I’m with you on that one. No words can describe what that doctor did and no amount of punishment will do justice.

      Oh, God!  
    • Tea Party Conservatism
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:50pm

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      Tea Party Conservatism  
    • Cemoto78
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:51pm

      What if…What if…this guy could have shown up with 3 guns, each having 10 round clips…etc…Lawrence is a moron. Congressman Franks should have told him there is no talking with you and got up and left.
      No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
      Thomas Jefferson

      The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
      bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
      in government.
      Thomas Jefferson

      Cemoto78  
    • RobertCA
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:55pm

      @ NEOFAN

      No it’s not off topic , law that allows doctors to kill babies are way more dangerous than gun control law

      Robert-CA  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:57pm

      You all know me here, and my uber-libertarian gun ownership views, but I do think a 14+1 capacity is a fair compromise. 30 rounds??? really?

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • M 4 Colt
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:57pm

      Why does anybody care what this ass thinks about anything he is just a total waste of oxgyen

      Report Post »  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:58pm

      “Lawrence O’Donnell, the self-described socialist,”

      Has nothing valid to say about America and its laws and customs. That simple.

      Ta da

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • Ironmaan
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:59pm

      What part of “shall not be infringed” doesn’t he understand?
      http://guerillatics.com

      Report Post »  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:00pm

      Clips are unreliable at best after 13 rounds anyway.
      Come to think of it, give the crazies a 40 round clip! The chance for misfeed/misfire is huge, especially starting with the first round. First shot “click”, jam, tackled, jailed.

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:04pm

      @My Sacred Honor

      “You all know me here, and my uber-libertarian gun ownership views, but I do think a 14+1 capacity is a fair compromise. 30 rounds??? really?”

      “Shall not be infringed…”

      30 round clips are silly looking and cumbersome, but used by some who convert their pistols to full auto (yes, some do, and yes, it’s silly).

      The moment you give them an inch they go for the full monty. Suggest that 30 rounds magazines are inappropriate here and they’ll have them banned for semi-auto rifles just as fast as the ink can dry.

      No, no restrictions. Laissez-nous faire. :)

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • middleclassprophet
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:05pm

      NRA values sales, not people.

      Report Post » middleclassprophet  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:08pm

      And oh, just WAIT til the “mental stability” laws come into effact affecting on’es right to buy a gun legally.
      “Any history of mental illness, ma’am?”
      “Well, I had a bit of depression after my husband of 40 years died 10 years ago, but I’m fine now, been fine for a long time now!”
      “NO GUN FOR YOU!!!”
      “But…but…I’m 78 and live in a bad neighborhood…my house has been broken into a few…”
      “NO GUN FOR YOU!!!”
      ” But the Second Amend….”
      “NO GUN FOR YOU!!!”
      “Now worries…I know a gang-banger a few doors down who will sell me all the guns I need. Have a nice day!”

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • BMartin1776
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:09pm

      O’Donnell is a punk isnt he another failed tool of Hollywood? Wasnt he an actor or something and sucked at that so now he is in politics. I keep remembering how he treated, Katy Abrams of townhall fame telling Spector “waking the sleeping giant”. She was speaking on fact and O’D lied on air to make her look bad that she was uninformed over BHO saying his goal was single payer.. O’D said BHO never said that when we all have seen the vid of him talking to SEIU about it.

      Hey Comcast now that NBC is yours why dont you set precedent and can this tool of the left!?

      STOP playing their game and start playing your game through http://www.savingtherepublic.com

      Report Post » BMartin1776  
    • 101
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:11pm

      Thank you Rep. Trent Franks for supporting gun rights & putting blame where it belonged…Nice job exposing the hate coming from MSNBC O’Donnell hypothetical B_llSh_t questioning!

      Report Post »  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:12pm

      Let me get this straight. O’Donnell argues that Police officers, unless they were “very well trained NYPD officers”, would have just drawn and closed their eyes firing wildly into the crowd? Maybe he believes in the “Barny Fife” rule, that each officer should ONLY have one bullet, and THAT one kept safely in his shirt pocket. IF that is his arguement, then that just strengthens ours, that the more CITIZENS who are as well trained as the NYPD AND are carrying, this guy would have had MAYBE 2-3 rounds of his 30 downrange before he was dropped like a rock BY WELL TRAINED AND ARMED CITIZENS, and not a single by-stander touched.
      HMMMMMM……

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • CatB
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:15pm

      You do not stop crazies from killing by taking away legal citizens rights. This idiot (O’D) gets louder and louder with his rhetoric .. where is the civility from the left.

      Report Post »  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:15pm

      @ GHOST….Besides Kate (who sadly had her account ganked after she reported her NAME was ganked), you are my favorite poster. I agree that the left uses the “give an inch, take 1,000 miles” rule, but I think a solid compromise is 14+1.
      Just like when Andrew Jackson gave the Dakota Indians their land….and then…
      Wait a minute.
      Never mind. You are right. AGAIN.

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:18pm

      And I know Jackson wasn’t directly to blame for that, just his policies on westward expansion.

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:24pm

      @GHOST, SINCE I have your attention, been meaning to ask this for a long time. You are probably the smartest and most informed poster on here, what, may I ask, is your educational background? I’m curious as “ach ee doulble hockey sticks” about that!

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • Barry Soetoro
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:30pm

      If anyone is surprised that no one has yet posted the 2nd amendment, which should be the pivotal point of this discussion, be advised that comments submitted to The Blaze are censored.

      It’s good to be king!

      Report Post » Barry Soetoro  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:35pm

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      ——————————————————————————–

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • bimmermatt
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:41pm

      I’m a bit confused. According to O’donnel, if it was against the law to have a clip that held more than 10, Loghner could have only shot 10 times before he had to reload. Here I thought it was already against the law to fire 1 shot at any innocent person.

      Report Post »  
    • airhead0
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:42pm

      there is a special place in hell for that doctor.

      Report Post » airhead0  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:43pm

      I posted directly, the Second Amendment and nothing else 9 minutes ago, and it is now “awaiting moderation”…..maybe you have something there…

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:53pm

      @My Sacred Honor

      “@GHOST, SINCE I have your attention, been meaning to ask this for a long time. You are probably the smartest and most informed poster on here, what, may I ask, is your educational background? I’m curious as “ach ee doulble hockey sticks” about that!”

      Thank you!

      I’m a farm boy from Ohio, born to a Vietnam era jet pilot father and small town model mother, who used to wear a chain wallet, helped raise horses (Shires), had a mullet, chewed on grass in the summer time, spent lots of time fantasizing about Katherine Bach and Dawn Wells as a teen, and have countless memories of fishing, hunting and shooting. One of my most vivid memories was when I was 5 and I went to a professional football game with my father and his friends, who were presenting colors at the game (Marine Corp). After the game, they were offered a ride back to their cars in a van with the cheerleaders from the home team. They spent no small amount of time passing me around and holding me on their laps, cooing and telling me I was a cutey petootie and as a result I’m permanently enamored with scantily clad cheerleaders. :)

      I have two degrees, one in a liberal arts discipline and one in a hard science, and have a handful of published articles in commercial magazines. I write screenplays and short stories (though my novel skills are sorely lacking), and have been studying philosophy in an amateur sense since at least, gosh, 1988. My writings on this site however, I must confess, go largely un-proofed and are often of shoddy quality. I figure, eh, what the heck, it’s the internet, no biggie.

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • 101
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:00pm

      .
      The fastest clip change you’ll probably ever see. 10 rd clip less than a second…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAFxgQmxbGI

      Report Post »  
    • booger71
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:08pm

      And I know Jackson wasn’t directly to blame for that, just his policies on westward expansion.

      But he was directly responsible for moving the Cherokee off their legal land in Georgia by the military and caused the Trail of Tears on the way to Oklahoma

      Report Post » booger71  
    • Tea Party Conservatism
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Tried to post the second amendment of the U.S. Constitution three times. The posts are being delayed/censored.

      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:50pm Your comment is awaiting moderation.
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:12pm Your comment is awaiting moderation
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:00pm Your comment is awaiting moderation

      Report Post » Tea Party Conservatism  
    • click4cheapandeasyweb
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:12pm

      RobertCA
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 2:41pm
      “Let’s start first with STOP KILLING BABIES , sorry guys still outraged by the last horrible news”

      I agree. When will the left join us in trying to end this genocide?

      Lawrance O‘Donnell can take his fake indignation and save it for all those Dems that support ’killing babies on demand’, otherwise known as ABORTION!

       
    • click4cheapandeasyweb
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:14pm

      neofan, why are you giving robertca a hard time over this issue? Have you no heart?

      Report Post »  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Thank you booger! I KNEW he did something similar…
      BTW, since The Blaze WILL NOT let me post directly the Second Amendment, here is a “favorite” EVERYONE should have on their computer:
      http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article5

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • click4cheapandeasyweb
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:18pm

      middleclassprophet
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 3:05pm
      “NRA values sales, not people.”

      Untrue. The NRA values the Constitutional right to bear arms, which in means they value human rights more than most others!

      Report Post »  
    • Barry Soetoro
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:25pm

      @My Sacred Honor

      http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article5

      You’re kidding right?

      Report Post » Barry Soetoro  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Wow. GHOST, sounds VERY similar to my background (sans cheerleaders, although in kindergarten I DID have a Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders lunchbox) But I was raised on a black angus farm in Georgia by my Grandparents (Grampa is THE smartest man I know, and at 78, can STILLL whip
      y Marine ass!) And given a chance to go back, would have gotten a triple Masters in Philosophy/Religion/History, and spent the rest of my days teaching/studying. i ALSO “fancy myself a poet” and have started maybe 4 novels. Got the first chapter or so written out roughly then got bored with it. I’d get on some ADHD drugs, but then my right to buy guns would get ganked. After all, in that critical moment, you DO NOT want someone holding a gun who will be distracted by “how BLUE the sky is today!” Now, do you?
      Anyway, the last similarity, your Father being a Vietnam Marine, my Father being a Vietnam (Silver Star recipient) Soldier, and ME being a Marine…
      Well, I agree that we should get a community set up outside the blaze in our own neighborhoods, but maybe even here…my email is j_wendell4@yahoo.com….drop me a line when you get the chance.

      Semper Effing Fi to your Father, he will forever be my Brother!
      And THEREFORE, as my nephew, if YOU ever eff up, I’ll take a belt to your ass just like that guy from a few days ago!

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:30pm

      @ BARRY…..how so? And no, I am not.

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • Mr.Nick
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:30pm

      Someone needs to tell these liberal er progressive Marxist idiots that a high velocity projectile is dangerous, whether it come from a gun, a bow, an individuals hand etc.

      A gun is nothing more than a tool.

      Furthermore, do they really think for a second that if they banned guns that I will just turn mine in??

      The gun debate is illogical.

      Besides, do these leftist idiots really think that if they ban guns the criminals who use them to commit crimes will just turn them in? not to mention do these leftist idiots really think for a second that criminals will stop to think about the “strict penalties of possessing an illegal gun” right before they walk into the gas station to rob it and kill the clerk in the process???

      Once again the left shows how truly stupid they are.

      Report Post »  
    • davecoolworld
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:42pm

      The round capacity of the magazines don’t matter. A good shot is a good shot. Loughner walked up to point blank range and shot people. It was personal to him for some reason. I also think he intended to die there that day knowing so many Arizonans carry. Maybe that’s why he wanted to be in arms reach. O’Donnell is an enemy of The Union.

      Report Post » davecoolworld  
    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:45pm

      “Congressman, don‘t you wish Jared Loughner had a smaller capacity ammunition clip when he went to Gabby Giffords’ event in Tuscon?”

      Forcefully repeating the question doesn’t change the question, nor the answer. If there was something specific in the answer that Lawrence O’Donnell took issue with, then he should say that – but repeating the question isn’t helpful. Nor does the force by which one asks a question lend it more (or less) legitimacy.

      Also, the Second Amendment was written to protect the citizens from tyrannical government, so clip-size/gun-type are not the issue.

      With regard to bullets missing their target, a culture of open-carry would actually promote precision, so that’s not an issue. And Trent Franks was right when he said that if it’s true that the majority of police miss their target a lot, then we should take guns out of the hands of police, since they’re so dangerous – but he didn’t say this because he believed it, but because he’s a Socialist, and he wants to take away the power of the people to resist tyrannical government.

      Report Post »  
    • butchcoolidge
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:48pm

      Odonnald was wrong on his basic premis. I wish the senator had known. Large capacity magazines were not outlawed. many citizens like me owned and still own “high cap mags”. What was outlawed was the MANUFACTURE AND RETAIL SALE of high cap mags in conjunction with the “ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN”. So if you owned them, you still had them. and as a private citizen, you could buy or sell them. They were very expensive, but could be bought. In addition, check out ISPCA or IDPA to see how fast a practiced person can change magizines. If the insane person would have practiced just a little, he would not have been stopped as Odonnald claims.

      Report Post »  
    • davecoolworld
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:49pm

      Those of you who post here often sometimes have comments that are awaiting moderation because of the trolls who post here as well. They constantly report you to the moderators after they lose their privileges to post. Ever wonder why new names pop up with the same writing style…there you go.
      I sent an email to theblaze asking about protocol on moderation, but got no reply. Sometimes my posts also are moderated, but only one was removed.

      Report Post » davecoolworld  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:02pm

      @ BUTCH…you are ALMOST right….the manufacture was banned, but they could still sell the high-cap mags that were in inventory. I bought my H&K .40 USP in ‘99, which came with one 10 round mag, but I was able to buy 2 additional 13 round mags at $130 each. Yes, you heard me right, “$130 each”, and that was back in ‘99. IMAGINE what they would cost if they did this again. Maybe $1,300 each?
      Just food for thought….which at today’s rate I charge each of you reading this $98 a bushel for my “food for thought”.

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • cessna152
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:04pm

      We all know that limiting MAGAZINES (what is a clip BTW) to 10 rounds will not stop criminals from getting 30 round magazines. When will these silly azz clowns get it through their heads that CRIMINALS break the law… they will find a way to get that 30 round mag whether it is “illegal” or not and while the criminal is pointing the gun towards us, we the honest citizen will still be waiting for our carry permit…

      Report Post » cessna152  
    • AzDebi
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:04pm

      As angry as O’Donnell was, I‘m surprised that he didn’t interrupt him…there were a couple of times where their words started to overlap and O’Donnell showed respect for Trent…This kind of debate I can truly appreciate…When the debate was over I knew where both stood on the subject…we love Trent here in AZ!

      Report Post » AzDebi  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:05pm

      @ DAVE, but for some reason, posting directly any amendment is now banned…“after moderation”…now I wonder why this is so, especially since The Blaze is what it is…new FCC ruling we don’t know about yet? Wish The Blaze would let us know….unless they are now being held at gunpoint by the TSA to moderate as per their wishes…

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:08pm

      I KNOW I’ve posted directly quotes from The Constitution before, to include the Second Amendment…

      “WHAT IN THE WIDE, WIDE WORLDA SPORTS ISA GOIN’ ON HERE?”
      -Taggert, “Blazzing Saddles”

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • RobertCA
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:18pm

      @ TEA PARTY CONSERVATISM
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 4:10pm
      Tried to post the second amendment of the U.S. Constitution three times. The posts are being delayed/censored.

      _____________________________________________________________

      You know that it’s against the Constitution to post the 2nd amendment :)
      Come on THE BLAZE why censoring the 2nd amendment ?????????????

      Report Post » Robert-CA  
    • pajamash
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:31pm

      My god! Seems to be that the Spanish Inquisition has returned. And the left is pointing a finger at how the right talks?

      Franks had a valid question. If the gun clip was smaller people still would have been killed. So what is O‘Donnell’s point? Would the lives that were lost with a 10 round clip be of lesser value? A person like Jared Loughner will kill no matter what. If guns were banned he might have made a bomb (which would have to potential to kill even more people) or he might have used a knife. I fail to see what the point is that O’Donnell was trying to make.

      Report Post »  
    • pajamash
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:37pm

      @neofan – California Bob is not off topic. The Democrates and left leaners like O’Donnell rail against a situation like this where people are killed in a sensless act but they are also the group that defends Roe v. Wade. A human is a human from the point of conception. How can it be justified to be against killing when you support a case that allows killing? Makes no sense and is Hypocritical.

       
    • NeoFan
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:44pm

      Don’t be lazy dude, copy my icon too. Maybe you should also spoof my IP as well.
      at the very least make funny comments instead of the lame stuff you posted.

      Report Post »  
    • Wolf
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 5:48pm

      Right: if the lib dimocraps want to talk about saving the children, they can start with putting the abortion industry out of business. Then maybe we can have a ‘meaningful dialogue’ about saving lives.

       
    • Bob_R_OathKeeper
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:00pm

      If liberals were left to defend this country, it would be with a Nerf gun and 10 super-soft projectiles. Ignore them, they are idiots of the highest degree.

      Report Post » Bob_R_OathKeeper  
    • cykonas
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:11pm

      @Ghost of TJ
      You had me scared for a minute! No restrictions for the reasons you state. Liberties are nibbled away. As tragic as was the massacre, we can’t allow the Government to make the argument that we need more regulation on firearms.

      Report Post » cykonas  
    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:19pm

      I’d rather dodge stray bullets fired at someone else then bullets aimed right at me. Hahaha

      Report Post » American Soldier (Separated)  
    • Barry Soetoro
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 6:53pm

      @My Sacred Honor

      Make no mistake, “The Constitution reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day.” It is a “charter of negative liberties.” Essentially it limits what those entrusted with federal government office can and can not do, with the remainder being left up to the states. Let me be clear, personally I don’t care for it much. In fact, by any honest measurement, one would have to admit that neither do progressive socialist democrats such as former House Speaker Pelosi, Reid, and many power drunk republicans remaining in Congress.

      As your de-facto president I don’t get to pick and choose which parts I like well enough to obey or to ignore what I dislike. Honoring the Constitution requires one to obey it as a whole, at all times. To do otherwise by diminishing even just one part, such as Article 2, Section 1, diminishes the whole. However being a British citizen by birth, fortunately it really doesn’t apply to me now does it?

      As you can tell by my actions, while I rather like a monarchy, to fulfill the ‘Dreams of My Father’ as espoused in the book Bill Ayers wrote for me at Michelle’s request, I much prefer a communist totalitarian dictatorship. To that end, I hope the change wrought by my economic sabotage will cause citizens to unwisely sacrifice freedom for security. When enough voters are reduced to government dependency, surely they will welcome my plans for redistributive social justice based on my mentor’s dictum: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

      It’s good to be King.

      Report Post » Barry Soetoro  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 7:08pm

      @ BARRY….DAYUM, BRA! I didn’t know this was you, yeah sorry for posting that sorry “old” bidness of the silly Founders. Lol, yeah, you KNOW what i meant….that piece of toilet paper should have been flushed long ago. “The living Document” so to speak is so outdated, i mean we don’t even speak the same LANGUAGE as they did back then! And they didn’t have NEARLY the same issues as we have today. Thank GAWD for the “Executive Order”, as these “elected idiots” in Congress don’t have a clue! I mean, “really?“ ”The will of the people”??? COME ON! Those simpletons couldn’t scratch their own asses without POTUS telling them how to do it! Let ALONE these racist tea party rednecks directing what YOU, the SUPREME WILL OF ALL knows to be true!
      These trailor-park redneck retards need to do their homework, and then just listen to what YOU have to say and this great nation will be saved!
      CAN I GET AN AMEN!
      CAN I HAVE HALLELUJAH???!?!?!11111

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • Barry Soetoro
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:02pm

      @My Sacred Honor

      Damn skippy! We don’t need no Constitution. Say man… now that you‘ve seen the light you’re welcome to send your rez to the crib, we can make you a czar of political enlightenment or something. Just one requirement though, don‘t tell anyone that the light I’m promising American will see at the end of the tunnel, is an oncoming train.

      Report Post » Barry Soetoro  
    • wildjoker5
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:09pm

      Who stopped Jared? An ARMED citizen that was willing NOT to take out his gun, but subdue the loon. There wouldn’t have been less people dead, 6 people still would have died due to the bullets being part of the first 10 he fired. Jared would have still been able to have gotten a hold of a 30 round clip, just because they would have been illegal, doesn‘t mean they wouldn’t have been made. The politicians make laws and regulations for the people that will follow the law, but the people that cause the problems will never be stopped because of a stupid rule, law, or regulation put in place by these people that think they can control everyone. O’DONNELL is a pompous dumba$$ that thinks the world would be better if we had rules to keep everyone in line. Limiting the ammunition limits your ability to defend yourself from criminals of the civilian and tyrannical government kind.

      Report Post »  
    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:09pm

      @WALKWITHME1966

      Oh, you poor poor woman.

      The Founders, in their day, owned MORE sophisticated weapons than the standard British Infantryman. Rifled, long barreled weapons were infinitely more accurate than the shotgun-esque standard British issue, and could strike at a much farther range, allowing Patriots to fire unseen into British formations. The British, like you, were outraged that they used such weapons.

      Guess you should crack a book on history dear. :)

      Report Post » GhostOfJefferson  
    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 8:55pm

      @WALKWITHME,

      Don’t loose any sleep over your concerns. Take it from a charter member of the “Gun Culture”, one of your Communist Heros, Slick Willy Clinton, attempted to Ban all manner of Evil Gun Stuff. He only succeeded in causing more guns, magazines and ammo being sold than ever in our history. His attempt also had another “Unintended Consequence” or two.

      1. THOUSANDS of REGULAR GUN OWNERS that had never owned more than a couple of hunting rifles and a pistol maybe, with never more than 100 rounds of ammo for them all, WOKE UP to the real threat to our safety. These same folks now own dozens of every imaginable firearm there is, and buy and stock ammunition and components in the tens of thousands of rounds. In 2009 after OBONGO and the Communists took over, we bought more guns and ammunition than it would take to arm both the Red Chinese and the Indian Armies combined. 13 Million guns or so in 12 months, and 1.6 Billion rounds of Ammunition a month for a year went into civilian hands in this country.

      2. Lots of what you would call Hard Core Gun Nuts, moved beyond just tinkering with what ever new piece they bought, and set up to manufacture their own “Home Grown” Guns and Magazines etc. There are literally thousands of guns and tens of thousands of Evil High Capacity Magazines in existence today that DON’T EXIST at all. Since the Clintonista Regime was in power, more guns and ammo have been BURIED than the Feds could find and dig up in a 100 years.

      So by all means BAN whatever you want. The ONE thing a new BAN will most certainly make widely available will be the $200.00 Basement Built Sub Machinegun.

      Report Post »  
    • suttonea76
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:01pm

      Too all the ignorant liberals out there,

      This point was already stated but the killer was well aware of what he wanted to do where he wanted to do it and how he wanted to do it. Loughner could have easily purchased a fully automatic weapon with over 50 rounds per clip which is standard on some weapons. He could have brought several guns with him fully loaded to transition to after each weapon was spent. Basically, the liberal sickness is not aware that being a crazed lunatic assassin in no way means that you aren’t intelligent. Criminals are known for having immense creativity and the ability to see and plan accordingly. Liberals see the weapon as the issue whereas the rest of civilized humanity see the man behind the gun who was committed for violence. Let‘s all stop thinking that being crazy and violent means you aren’t capable of planning out every last detail.

      Report Post » suttonea76  
    • STUBBYK
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:02pm

      O’Donnel had the same look in his eyes as the shooter in Arizona. If looks could kill, Rep. Franks would have been a goner. O’ Reilly would call this guy a loon. TRUE.

      Report Post »  
    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 9:57pm

      With some of the things this loon has said in the past, I have absolutely no interest in what he says or does. I pretend he doesn’t exist along with Olberman, Matthews, Maddow and all their ilk. They are all hateful, mean spirited people who couldn’t make it in the real world so they have to work for MSNBC, CNN and ABC and NBC——all bad people. Tune them out and off.

      Report Post »  
    • triquad
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 10:15pm

      I would agree with you there Robert.I tried real hard to listen to O Donnel and his crap in this interview but then I had to turn it off, I wanted to reach through the screen and slap the dumb ass upside his head. What a useless waist of oxygen. His reciculous claims that an over whelming majority of bullets fired by trained police officers miss their target.What kind of stupid idiotic dum and outright ignorant crock of crap.and the sad part is this dumb ass believes his own bull crap.

      Report Post »  
    • Ookspay
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 10:30pm

      Not a single bullet….

      The Happy Land fire was an arson fire which killed 87 people trapped in a social club called “Happy Land” in New York, in 1990. Julio González, whose former girlfriend was employed at the club, was arrested shortly after and ultimately convicted of arson and murder.

      Julio threw a gallon of gas on his girlfriend, but everyone inside died. Had Julio had a gun there would have only been 1 dead. Wierd huh? I‘m just sayin’, gasoline doesn’t kill people, people kill people.

      Report Post » Ookspay  
    • TMAGIC
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:06am

      Studies from the FBI and other law enforcement agencies do reveal when a police officer gets into a gun battle with an armed suspect it ususlly results in anywhere from 7-10 shots being fired by the officers. These types of gun battles more times than not occur with 7 feet of the cop and bad guy. Studies further reveal a very low pecentage of “friendly fire” injuries. It does happen but not as often as the Left would have you believe. Most incidents I have seen on Dash Cams show innocent civillians getting on the ground or behind cover while the shooting is going on. I would have loved to been in the crowd at that supermarket with my weapon. I am confident I could have taken him out before he emptied that first clip. Ya never know but thats why I carry mine concealed to almost everywhere I go…..just in case I have to defend myself, family or innocent citizens from being victims.

      Report Post »  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:28am

      2TMAGIC, PLEASE see my above posting! It will resolve a wonderous world of inquiries for you!

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:28am

      @TMAGIC, PLEASE see my above posting! It will resolve a wonderous world of inquiries for you!

      Report Post » My Sacred Honor  
    • Tea Party Conservatism
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:44am

      @My Sacred Honor

      Hey what do you know, the censors at The Blaze finally cleared our ultra radical right wing postings of the 2nd amendment, several hours after the fact. Happy days, sort of…

      “In matters of power let no more be heard of the confidence in man but bind them down from mischief by the chains of the constitution.” Thomas Jefferson

      “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln

      Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace
      By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881

      Report Post » Tea Party Conservatism  
    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:07am

      Funny how there is no outrage from the Socialist news when our border patrol agents and border ranchers get shot and killed by criminal foreign invaders. These people have no credibility and I don’t care about one word they say. They can yell at a wall all day for all I care, these people are the Scum of society

      Report Post » KICKILLEGALSOUT  
    • StonyBurk
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:47am

      So this socialist blames the law for the next 21 bullets HE fired.Yep and I bet the law maker never reads any proposed legislation before he votes on it too.Probably too busy reading the Worker –or maybe a collection of Obamas’ speeches? I am just not nuanced enough I guess to appreciate the logic. The socialist blames the shooter for the first ten bullets only but admits the shooter fired all thirty one.Note to this elected Idiot — the Law didn’t fire any of those bullets did it? This clown and Shirley Jackson Lee, and Barbara boxer, and Barney Frank ,and Harry Reid are some of the examples of WHY I cannot return to the Democratic Party.

      Report Post »  
    • JesusFreak95
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:23am

      It’s a stupid argument. Sure you can limit the size of clips, but someone can buy multiple clips, takes all of a second to change one out. Again, all you are doing is regulating those who OBEY the law, you are not doing anything to dissuade a nut job bent on killing people. If he couldn’t get a gun, maybe he would have used a bomb instead, and that would have killed and maimed even MORE innocent bystanders.

      On the other hand, as others have noted, if there had been one or two law abiding citizens in the crowd carrying, they might have had a chance to take the idiot down before he got off all those shots.

      Continue to pray for Mrs. Giffords and her family, and for our nation.

      Report Post » JesusFreak95  
    • jmparrish
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:12am

      Everyone here should lobby Comcast to end MSNBC’s liberal anti-american nonsence or risk loosing customers

      Report Post »  
    • CAOBRAZILIA
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:14am

      Somebody PLEASE explain to me why in the hell any repub. would give an interview to ANYONE on MSLSD???????????? They really don’t get it!

      Report Post » CAOBRAZILIA  
    • billydee
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Would Lawrence feel better if he would have just bought a 30 round clip out of the trunk of a car? (Though I am confident that if the crazed killer knew there was a law against a high capacity clip he would have refrained from using it.)

      Report Post »  
    • RCScrolls
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:04pm

      How about not responding to these idiots at all, then they would only be talking and watching themselves. As soon as we stop defending ourselves they will move on, if they dont owell, they can listen to each other.
      We spend more time talking about whatthey said even though we know they dont make sense.
      Just stop the talking with liberal media and problem solved.

      Report Post » RCScrolls  
    • AnnMarie
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:32pm

      What a stupid, stupid question.. This man is concerned about how many bullets were in the gun??? I am amazed at what the media seems to center on as far as importance…

      Report Post »  
    • Smitty1969
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:32pm

      Communism is central slavery. How could one own slaves with firearms.

      Report Post » Smitty1969  
    • chickenbig
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:38pm

      And just what do they do with all dead babies ? That is a industry & business all it’s own and constitutes a form of canabalism. The bodies are utilized, but for what ?
      What an absolutely sick society…Animals don’t engage in the barbarianism of abortion……JESUS COME QUICKLY !

      Report Post » chickenbig  
    • freedom4all
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:33pm

      A flawed argument. Turn it around. If Mr O’Donnell were the one being attacked I’m sure he would
      wish very hard that his rescuer had a 100 round clip!!

      Report Post »  
    • FORTHELOVEOFGOD
      Posted on January 21, 2011 at 8:44am

      What I understand about abortion issues is that most Libs do not agree in the moral standing of such an act however they feel Big Government should not be in control of such decisions. It is not that they are for an abortion, they do not like the fact of the Government being in control. 98% of all abortions are young black women between the ages of 11 and 19 years of age. Our issues of concern begin long before the actual abortion. Just like gun control, our issues begin long before the mass killings. For all you fellas and gals out there who like to own your guns, I would guess you are mostly concern about loosing your right to own one or two or three. I truly believe you will never have to ever worry about that happening. No one on the left would ever ask for that. However, though most gun owners show much responsibility in having them, how would you respond to handling this situation? If you could take a personal vote today, would you vote on regulation or would you vote on no limits? Thanks for your time, have a super day :)

      Report Post »  

Sign In To Post Comments! Sign In