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Lib Author: Christians Like Bachmann ‘Hate’ the U.S., ‘Love a Fictional, Christian America’

Lib Author: Christians Like Bachmann Hate the U.S., Love a Fictional, Christian America On Wednesday, Huffington Post blogger and book author Frank Schaeffer appeared on MSNBC to discuss his take on Christianity in America. He wasted no time in lambasting Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry’s personal beliefs, essentially branding them as dangerous and not in tune with the “real America.” Schaeffer, who is the son of a conservative theologian, slammed evangelicals, claiming that they “hate the United States,” among other charges.

When speaking with Richard Lui, who was guest-hosting for Martin Bashir, Schaeffer said the following about Bachmann and those who agree with her views on faith:

“…these people actually hate the United States as it is. Look, they love a fictional, Christian America that wouldn’t include gay people, does not have choice and abortion rights for women and all the rest of this. But, in terms of the real America, inclusive, diverse, sustaining of gay people as well as heterosexuals and so forth, this is an America they despise and that’s why they talk in terms of taking it back, from whom? That would be from the rest of us, ordinary American citizens under the rule of law.”

Earlier in the interview, the angst-ridden author explains that Republicans need to choose to either be “a normal political party” or a “theocracy in waiting.” Then, he stakes the claim that Bachmann would “…produce a theocracy in the country where the Bible would be paramount and no longer the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.”

Schaeffer’s appearance was also in promotion of his new book, “Sex, Mom, and God: How the Bible’s Strange Take on Sex Led to Crazy Politics–and How I Learned to Love Women (and Jesus) Anyway.” You can watch his startling statements, below:

(h/t Newsbusters)

Comments (474)

  • jessieH
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

    That’s it, take your own talking points and blame it on the conservatives. Just like obama does. Doesn’t matter if you get caught lying, just keep pushing your propaganda.

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    • HerrBeck
      Posted on July 13, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Well he has a point. Bachmann’s understanding of religion would lead to a “Christian Taliban” right here in America. Remember, she is a welfare queen who profits from phony farm land subsidies and medicare money. She doesn’t even know she profits from the things she claims to be against, so I have no doubt she doesn’t understand religion. And what other choices to we have? Don’t say the Mormons, they aren’t even Christian.
      I mean really, have you ever read their “clarified” bible, makes Scientolgy seem reasonable.

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  • MartyTr
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

    Keep calling your Governor, Senators and Rep. Report this as a hate crime. I just called a bunch about the UN anti-semite Richard Falk and his anti-semite cartoon on his blog. If this was being said about Islam someone would be arrested!! Keep calling!!!!

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  • saranda
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

    He isn‘t saying a whole that isn’t true for how most repubs believe.

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  • SafeguardOurLiberty
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:37pm

    I am a Chrisitan, but I am an American also. I follow the Constitution. All people are created equal, endowed by their creator. I believe that gays should have the same rights as others. I believe that God judges, not me. This guy is an idiot, and apparently doesn’t understand what Christianity is about! Most Christians I know believe what I believe. There is a small majority out there that believe otherwise, that is their right. But how dare he bunch all of us together like that. Idiot!

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    • Hawke17
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:22pm

      SAFEGUARDOURLIBERTY
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:37pm.
      “I believe that God judges, not me. This guy is an idiot,” LOL you have to be kidding. God judges not you then you lay your judgement on this man. I bet you dont even see how ridiculous your comment is.

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    • Stone Cold Truth
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:48pm

      For the record, the thing about not judging others doesn‘t mean you can’t acknoweldge obvious facts.
      The Devil himself can quote scriptures to deceive and acheive his means. He tried it on Jesus. There is good and evil and one should be able to tell the difference. It’s called common sense.

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  • elkfeva
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:37pm

    Good always wins in the end, find peace in Christ.

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:37pm

    better to sit in Rev. Wright’s racist anti-American church for 20yrs

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:02pm

      @momprayn Selective quotes from the founding fathers doesn’t really support most of what people are asserting here regarding what the country was founded on. Quotes regarding what their personal religious views were is not exactly what they intended in terms of the relationship between government and religion (church). Also, please quote from the Federalist papers and from a wider audience of the founding fathers and a much different picture than what you are inferring will come into view.

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    • Judeo_Christian
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:35pm

      JROOK. Ostensibly, only 3 people wrote the Federalist Papers. Even though it is a most impressive tool used to explain how our republic works, it cannot be counted on to be the sole means for understanding as to how or why the total of the founding founders put our republic together. It is three men’s work and understanding. No more. Do not under estimate the work of the other founders. They indeed had a very large impact as to how our country came into being. There was indeed a tremendous amount of Jewish & Christian values built into our republic. As a religious man, I appreciate that no individual religion would be the “authorized state religion” as per the 1st Amendment. This amendment also provides the specific protection of the rights of citizens to worship and follow God in their own way. That being said, the understanding as to the inalienable rights of man come from Jewish and Christian teachings. This cannot be denied.

      Your posting make it seem as though you are an atheist. You may not like this, but as it has been said… the truth has no agenda…religious or otherwise.

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  • Grey Matter
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:36pm

    “Republicans need to choose to either be ‘a normal political party’”

    The Republican party still holds to the same core values as it did 30 or 40 years ago (i.e., religion, family, etc.). Yet these spin-meisters consistantly claim that the Republican Party has moved too far to the right. As a Republican, I still have the same values and believe the same things that I did 30 years ago. It is the Democrat Party that has moved to the left. That has sold out to every single interest group that has come along to try and hold onto their power. And it is the liberals who are no longer “normal.”

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    • RocktheCasbah
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:19pm

      Absolutely right!

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:46pm

      The republican party traded Barry Goldwater for Pat Robertson decades ago. In doing so, they also traded their platform of personal liberty and small government for big government and big religion

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  • seeker9
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:36pm

    This guy is absolutely nuts. Surely he has had heard of Rev J Wright and the hate America views. Once again, accuse the opposition of what they themselves are guilty of. He no doubt wants a liberation theology to replace our Constitution.

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  • Bluefish49
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:36pm

    I think he didn’t get enough hugs as a child.

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  • conservredneck
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:36pm

    hahahah….it sounds like they have all wrapped up.

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  • elkfeva
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:35pm

    Hahaha, this dude is not very smart

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:13pm

      CONSIDER THIS:
      Here’s what I like about what is coming to those who do NOT worship the Biblical CHRISTIAN Lord and Master of our Universe, immediately following the new Heavens and new earth (for those who were not taken in the Rapture, called MILLENNIAL RULE):

      “Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” (Zechariah 14:16-19)

      This tells me that those people, mostly Muslim, no religion, non-Christian who are LEFT BEHIND after the Tribulation (7-year period) and after God makes all things NEW AGAIN (He doesn’t destroy anything – HE FIXES EVERYTHING AS IF IT WERE NEW) WILL INDEED SERVE OUR GOD – OR ELSE -. I doubt there will be that many people left anyways, but there still may be millions who haven’t chosen God and His Son, Jesus.

      READ MORE HERE: (GREAT FAQs about the Bible)
      http://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hamashiach/animal-sacrifice-in-the-millennium-2/

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  • solaveritas
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:34pm

    Libs don’t define their terms. For them, INCLUSIVE means “legitimize anything”. They don’t recognize that THERE ARE SOME OBJECTIVE BOUNDARIES of behavior.

    He is trying to control the linguistics of the debate. Actually, NEITHER side really hates America, the idea. Both sides hate some of the BEHAVIORS of the other side.

    I do believe Christians over the years have been too prudish. The libs have been too GODLESS. It is obvious which of the two is worse.

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  • DesertRose1960
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:34pm

    I’ve seen Schaeffer as a guest several times. He grew up in pseudo-Conservative society, just like I did. And just like I did, he found a way out. He holds a mirror up to the old crowd and they don’t like the reflection they see. Keep it up, Mr. Schaeffer, there are others out there who will see a way out, too. And thank you for sharing your experience with Liberals who might not understand the Teaparty if you weren’t there to translate.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:17pm

      DESERTROSE1960,
      It is apparent that the only Tea Parties you are familiar with are those hosted by the Mad Hatter.
      I think you’ve attended one too many.
      Do not speak of what you do not know.

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    • smme1950
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 6:23pm

      Ask someone who is in the TeaParty to define the TeaParty not a liberal. This man has no idea what I stand for and believe.

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 1:07am

      DesertRose: Newsflash most to all TeaPartiers are BABY BOOMERS just like Libturds. What “old” crowd are you talking about?

      Pseudo-conservative? pseudo-means false. So your folks were false conservatives? that makes them a closet libturd? Rose and Scaeffer are both doing psychotropics or some hootch. You both make no sense.

      Conservatives are about WHOLESOME VALUES. Liberals are about DEGENERATE VALUES.
      That is the difference between the two.

      Tolerance? you don‘t think Conservative Christians aren’t tolerant? News flash Christians founded this country and her government. They are so tollerant that they allowed NON-Christians into the country to live her and set up their own non-Christian worship places(an’t say that about those Moslem pukes can you?)
      The biggest mistake Christians ever made is set aside their values in the name of tolerance and now those that they tolerated DON’T Tolerate them!!!! I think Christians should stand up and start kicking some teeth in and not tolerate puke liberals who want them to GIVE UP ALL THEIR VALUES in the name of political correctness.
      ConservativeChristians/Conservative Jews have it right and all you fools are wrong. Period.
      I for one don’t tolerate your bull crap. I am very comfortable with CONSERVATISM.

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  • ISLAMICO
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:33pm

    Crusader cross worshipers will always fail just like Bush did and his gang.

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    • PER100
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:36pm

      After great review, analysis, and discussion it is concluded that Ala is homosexual. thats why he let Bin Laden die, he was with a woman at the time.

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    • PER100
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

      you must be one of those woman hating muhammad nut huggers?

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    • PER100
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:47pm

      the islamic cult refuses to admit Ala is gay. Muhammad deserves protection under Gay Civil Rights.

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    • isit1984yet
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:38pm

      Did they find that missing IQ report of yours yet?

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    • sprocket 1949
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 10:01pm

      Islamico. Where to begin. Your religion of peace since 9/11 17.426 dead. monthly for June 2011, jihad attacks. 184. countries 18, religions 5, dead 930, critically injured 1527. casualty reports for 6/25 2011 to 7/1/2011/jihad attacks 40, allah akbars 4, dead bodies 240, critically injured 392. “Crusader cross worshipers” Shove it up your @ss. We all know that you like little boys. In America We protect little boys from people like you. We protect people from throw backs who live in the 7th century. We protect people from a evil ideology with a religious component like sharia. This is America, We do not bow down to submission.

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  • cntrlfrk
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:32pm

    Another “all inclusive” Christian/Conservative/America hating liberal.

    Just like everybody else on MSNBC

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:31pm

    He’s 100% right.

    Religious Right Radicals are an extream liability to the GOP in the coming election.

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    • Firelight
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:57pm

      mrbutcher — where did you go to school — Alanta or Moscow ? Here is another one — only taught what to think never how to think. LIBS LIE !

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    • NWalters78
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:14pm

      Butcher, whatever you‘re smoking can I have what you’re taking in? Seriously, crack is whack if you agree with that liberal ****…. Oh wait, you’re a liberal **** also.

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    • Hank919
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:16pm

      Yeah right. Just watch.

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    • taksavillage
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:31pm

      “Religious Right Radicals are an extream liability to the GOP in the coming election.”
      Just like Reagan

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    • liberal_equals_liar
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:46pm

      There is no proof of Christians as a group hating America or being dangerous. But there is a lot of proof of Christians as a group helping out their fellow Americans.

      Nice try, liar.

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    • brockli
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Ok this guy is a lair and thinks Obama is Christ. He knows nothing about religion nor the people who follow Christ. People can disagree with gay marriage and still think of gays as citizens. Everything this youvguy says is a lie. He is from the Huffington post so I guess that is what you could expect. If you know anything about the separation of church and state it was to protect religion from the state and not to protect the state from religion. Look it up. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. it got twisted. Read the founders original works and it is proven.

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    • Red1492
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:47pm

      As a fiscal conservative & social libertarian, I agree. My problem with the right is they want big religion just as much as the left wants big government. I want neither. It is often said that Independents don’t know what they want when in fact they do but are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.

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    • R. Wirz von Urikon
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:16pm

      You are a liability to America, pig.

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    • Louie Louie the Progressive
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:20pm

      I don`t think they are a liability to the GOP because the GOP have their hands full with real political issues and getting re-elected …………………….but defiantly p!ss!ng the old guard and rinos off

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    • Berealalready
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 11:35pm

      yes, all 1% of them. As opposed to the 20% of hard-core radical leftists who care nothing of the constitution, property rights, and economic reality. I used to be hard left, now I am hard right. I see both sides for who they are. The hard left is far more dangerous to our continued prosperity and safety. There is a religion of the left, it just comes from the communist manifesto instead of the bible.

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  • Gypsy123
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:31pm

    People like him crawl out of the pit of hell.

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  • PER100
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:31pm

    MSNBC and Huffington Post, are we surpised? the saddest thing is this mental midget believes what comes out of the hole under his nose.

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  • republic2011
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:30pm

    Pure evil

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  • sWampy
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:29pm

    Typical liberal name calling, when will people start calling them? It’s not like they change the script or attack ever.

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  • PER100
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:29pm

    it’s amazing how hypocrates like this are able to look in the mirro in the morning.

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  • beckwill
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:28pm

    Libs like Frank Schaeffer hate the US and want a Lucifer run society.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Nah, he’s part of the radical left wing progressive base of the former Democrat party who just HATE CHRISTIAN AMERICANS! There are quite a few of them out there too!

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    • semihardrock
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:33pm

      if there was a “lucifer” he would be doing a heck of a good job from what i see in the US! unfortunately it is mostly left wing democrats who are doing the work for him so there is no need to show his ugly head!

      they’re on the payroll thanks to George Soros!

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    • Messenger4God
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:57pm

      The Liberals will say anything to turn public opinion in their favor. What they fail to realize is the fact that more and more people are beginning to see through their lies and devious ways, Lucifer will keep trying to take over society but will never prevail. There is no power mightier than God.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 8:12am

      schaeffer, the son of a conservative theologian, i’m guessing he hated his dad if not then, now. i would also call his rantings projection.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:27pm

    One thing he‘s right about as far as I’m concerned.
    I don’t want someone like him in this country…he should try Cuba, Venezuels, or Iran.

     
  • Polwatcher
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:26pm

    Talk about fiction…..

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:20pm

      @Polwatcher
      “Talk about fiction…..”

      Nothing fictional about it. He hit the nail right on the head.

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    • HumbleCitizen
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:50pm

      Agreed. Silly man, doesn’t he ever read history? It was Christians who wrote the constitution, no doubt after much prayer for wisdom and guidance.

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    • Hyena
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 12:02am

      @ POLWATCHER

      Here…..Here!! I concur!

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  • michael48
    Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:24pm

    burn the flag for 50 years and now Dem-Coms want to wrap thier azz in it….that dog don’t hunt LIB-TARDS…

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:30pm

      Reply Test.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:13pm

      @Gonzo
      Reply Test
      ——————————————-
      You are going to have to reply in this fashion until/if the Blaze fixes itself.

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    • RLM
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:26pm

      Testing reply

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    • obfuscatenot
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:50pm

      God bless you!

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:58pm

      @Gonzo

      Testing the Reply button, Gonzo…

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:56pm

      Test reply.

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    • DarKangelAZRAEL
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 9:15am

      Don’t know if you wanted someone to try a test reply but here you go Gonzo!

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    • pajamash
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:30pm

      I hate my conservative dad….thus….I hate all those who are religious.

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    • Look4DBigPicture
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 8:42pm

      @pajamash …

      “I hate my conservative dad….thus….I hate all those who are religious.”

      That’s like saying I hate stop signs, therefore I hate the color red. Think you might be a little narrow-minded in your views of life? Sad.

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    • Sicboy
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:37pm

      The USA or what’s left of it will get a theocracy, then when
      Theses fools either accept or get their heads cut off. They will wish for the day when Christians were the salt of this earth.

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    • drphil69
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:38pm

      I would take Bachmann’s “theocracy” over this bozo’s godless America any day…. hey dude, have you heard of the Soviet Union? No God there, and look what happened!!

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    • cessna152
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:41pm

      ***** Author says “But, in terms of the real America, inclusive, diverse, sustaining of gay people as well as heterosexuals and so forth, this is an America ….”******

      Diverse for whom? Only people that think like you? Once again thank you for smearing us because now we know EXACTLY who you are and what you are doing. Use your words and put “liberals/Progressives/Marxist“ in place of ”US” the US citizens and now we know where you stand.

      We want equal FREEDOM.. all are equal to succeed and fail EQUALLY! What you want is power and forcing those that want “Equal Freedom” under the bus! You are here for money, control and power.. nothing else.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:51pm

      Lib Author That says it ALL….HA HA HA One day he’ll meet Christ.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:57pm

      You hit that nail on the head,mike

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 1:57pm

      I don’t think his book will be selling very many copies. The guy is a lunatic who lives in his own fantasy world.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:00pm

      Burn the flag, you hate America. Love the fact that you have the freedom to burn flags, love America.

      Hate the concept of burning flags, and but allow others the right to burn flags, you really love America.

      Christians love their right to practice Christianity without others infringing on their rights; “Congress shall make no law… prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” [Religion].

      Christians love America, and the constitution that gives them the right to free exercise.

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:12pm

      Here’s what I like about what is coming to those who do NOT worship the Biblical CHRISTIAN Lord and Master of our Universe, immediately following the new Heavens and new earth (for those who were not taken in the Rapture, called MILLENNIAL RULE):

      “Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” (Zechariah 14:16-19)

      This tells me that those people, mostly Muslim, no religion, non-Christian who are LEFT BEHIND after the Tribulation (7-year period) and after God makes all things NEW AGAIN (He doesn’t destroy anything – HE FIXES EVERYTHING AS IF IT WERE NEW) WILL INDEED SERVE OUR GOD – OR ELSE -. I doubt there will be that many people left anyways, but there still may be millions who haven’t chosen God and His Son, Jesus.

      READ MORE HERE: (GREAT FAQs about the Bible)
      http://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hamashiach/animal-sacrifice-in-the-millennium-2/

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:12pm

      The Lib author is partially right. Our Founders did not set up a Theocracy of any kind, or intend for America to promote Christianity, per se (though individual liberty happens to be a necessary tenet of Christianity).

      Rather, our Founders intended to secure each citizens’ individual inalienable rights. This allows for different, conflicting opinions in society, and our Founders wanted that to be the case, since they knew that this kind of liberty was necessary for holding government accountable.

      And while this form of government can allow tension in government and society, the Constitution our Founders proposed (prior to the 17th Amendment) set up a structure which prevented the spread of factions.

      See here, in Federalist Papers #10:

      “There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.

      “There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests. …

      (continued on next post)

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:15pm

      (continued from prior post)

      “It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to adjust these clashing interests, and render them all subservient to the public good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at all without taking into view indirect and remote considerations, which will rarely prevail over the immediate interest which one party may find in disregarding the rights of another or the good of the whole.

      “The inference to which we are brought is, that the causes of faction cannot be removed, and that relief is only to be sought in the means of controlling its effects.”

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:13pm

      we have a multi-front war going on in this country. Seems to me that if this guy and others like him would take a breath before he spoke, he’d realize that the things he detests most about our nation are the very things that made it great. And his hatred of conservatism is the thing that’s bringing it down. Or maybe he does realize what I’ve said and is hoping for the destruction of America.
      Don’t forget—WE outnumber THEM

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:17pm

      WHY HASN’T BACHMANN SIGNED THE CAP, CUT, AND BALANCE PLEDGE…

      Sen. Demint is disappointed by Bachmann not signing the pledge and not surprised that Huntsman hasn’t signed it. But why hasn’t Bachmann, she won’t respond: ( http://tiny.cc/wnbr9 , under U.S. Senate Tab)

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    • JRook
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 2:36pm

      Obvious somewhat of a zealot, but not totally different than when M. Bachmann wanted members of Congress investigated for anti-American views or her statements that others hate America. These types of reports don’t move us any closer to the real issues facing the country. Religion doesn’t belong in those discussions as it is by definition, diverse.

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    • empiresentry
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:20pm

      LOLROF!!! Very good!

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    • Lonescrapper
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Wow… Could that guy hit any more liberal cliches about conservatives and still have breath to push his book 4 times or more? Guess so…

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:30pm

      Frank Schaeffer is the latest description for the word MORON to be found in all liberal dictionaries. He sounds like, this is just his way of getting back at his Dad for all those years of forcing him to live right and go to Church every Sunday. I didn’t read the whole thing for obvious reasons, but he probably brought home his domestic partner and his Dad threw them both out of the house.

      Want a real leader in the White House? Then help us… http://www.AMillionGoWest.com

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    • forthepeople
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 3:55pm

      Amen, I will copy this !

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    • DogTags
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Francis Schaeffer, a hero of mine, would be ashamed of his son. Francis Schaeffer said that liberal theology is nothing more than secular humanism in religious terms. He likened the liberal church to an adulterous woman who commits her adultery and then denies she did it. Liberal theologians always side with the secular humanist no matter what the issue. It appears his father was right about him. Frankie sides with the secular humanists on abortion, homosexuality and an understanding of our founding.

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    • Gas137
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:26pm

      “Real America”? We have no common identity in the US today. Where is the great unifier as pictured in the Tau image in the Blaze photo leading to this article

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    • thelonious
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:44pm

      This guy speaks the truth.

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    • LIBSALWAYSLIE
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 5:47pm

      The is the typical liberal elitist know it all that liberals look up to. Notice how he backs up everythig he says with facts and quotes? Of course not, they NEVER back up their lies, because they cant. This jerk is nothing more than a lying socialist POS

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    • polkbros
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 6:04pm

      The state run media will find a lot of kooks like this to parade around and scare voter but…
      We need a president that Loves and Respects God and walks in Christ footsteps.
      As a Black American/Tea Party/Patriot/Fundamentalist Christian the Republican nominee prayerfully Bachmann or Perry will get my vote and I will support them financially etc.

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    • avenger
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 6:25pm

      fk him and the rest of them.we are coming for you in 2012 !

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    • AWAKENEDAWARE
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 6:42pm

      Amen.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 6:54pm

      You mean libs and progressives hate AMERICA.

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    • indy1
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:06pm

      Frankie Schaeffer is a talentless dolt who has gravytrained off his late father’s brilliant legacy for 3 decades now. Think Ron Reagan Jr.

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    • The_Hut_In_Co
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 7:09pm

      @MICHAEL48
      I 49th. that! or is it 305th. what You said. Never know where Your posts will end up here. These people are SFA!

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    • Pujols
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 8:34pm

      We hate the people who want to change it. The same people who say “We have to change the History.” What moron would say that? ‘Michelle My Belle’ that’s who hates the Country.

      Conservative HATE BIG GOVERMENT and the hacks that try to rule over us.

      The Constatution is the greatest writing in the History of the World, but Libterds can’t rule under the Laws in it, so they try to keed the inner city people down and dumb. That is working.

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    • GONESURFING
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 9:37pm

      He is just another clueless liberal dummy.

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    • Marci
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Oh, I see, suddenly they are patriotic? I guess this is the newest angle since the racism charge wasn’t sticking. I knew we’d see a new one and soon.

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    • bookofdaniel
      Posted on July 7, 2011 at 11:56pm

      If this guy is so convinced that the conservative will lose with the strategy he claims, why does he give a ****. If he really believes what he is saying, his side would win. Liberalism is a mental disease!

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    • TheCenturion
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 12:29am

      This man is the spawn of an alien abducted communist from Russia. The experiment has obviously FAILED.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 6:51am

      Hey he forgot to say that we’re racist too! Remember, mr bald dude? Anyone who disagrees with you is also racist.

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    • TheOracleOfTruth
      Posted on July 8, 2011 at 8:56am

      Sorry bub, you libs must get your info from the Sears Catalog! Christians LOVE America, I am one of them, so your theory just went down the flusher! I hate the sins of the left though, and you can put that in your pipe and smoke it! Liberal elitists do make me sick to my stomach, they spew such vile hatred at people they do not know, imagine that?!

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