PayPal Co-Founder and Libertarian Heavyweight Donates $1.7M to Ron Paul PAC
- Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:47pm by
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Peter Thiel, business heavyweight, tech giant, PayPal co-founder, hedge fund manager, and avowed libertarian, has donated another $1.7 million to Endorse Liberty, a super PAC supporting Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX).
“Thiel, a billionaire who runs the hedge fund Clarium Capital, has donated a total of $2.6 million…since it was founded on Dec. 20,” Politico’s Robin Bravender writes.
This makes Thiel the single biggest contributor to the super PAC, which, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission, brought in $2.4 million in January and $1 million in late December.
“Other big donors to Endorse Liberty include Stephen Oskoui, founder of Smiley Media and co-founder of the super PAC, and Gunter Marksteiner, owner of a Florida broadcasting group,” Bravender writes. “Oskoui donated $125,000 in late January and provided $296,000 of in-kind media services. Marksteiner cut a check for $2,500 and donated $161,000 in in-kind air time on WHDT, the groups filings show. Luke Nosek, another PayPal co-founder, contributed $10,000.”
However, even with these generous and oftentimes impressive donations, Endorse Liberty still managed to spend more than it raised in January. A total of $2.9 million was spent by the PAC, most of it going towards advertisements: $2.5 million went towards online advertisements on Facebook, Google and other web sites and another $165,000 was spent on television commercials.
But considering the dedication and the seemingly endless financial resources of the PAC’s biggest contributor, overspending on necessities such as internet advertisements and TV spots seems like a negligible offense.
Consider the following: Thiel’s $2.6 million in total donations account for 76 percent of the super PAC’s fundraising since it came online late last year, according to CNN Money.
Furthermore, his donations are just a fraction of his net worth. In addition to the libertarian’s enormous success with PayPal, which is now owned by eBay, Thiel has made a few other business investments that have contributed greatly to his personal worth.
“In 2004, the angel investor put up $500,000 for Facebook’s first financing round. At $30 per share, his stake in the social-networking powerhouse is now worth $1.3 billion,” CNN Money reports.
Translation: the $2.6 million Thiel gave to Endorse liberty is only 0.2 percent of his Facebook holdings — and there’s a lot more where that came from.
Therefore, as long as Thiel believes Rep. Paul is the best person to represent libertarianism, the Endorse Liberty PAC can probably take comfort in knowing that even though it overspent in January, it still has a generous billionaire angel investor in its corner.
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Comments (275)
lukerw
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:37pmNow… What is going on in his Mind?
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:58pmWell, when you’ve got money to burn…
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:00pmI’m guessing he had 1.7 million to waste…….And what a waste it is!…………..
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:13pmThose are some DEEP “grassroots.”
Report Post »Whirling Dervish
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:33pmUnlike sheep, he has a brain, and he is using it, that is what is going on.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:45pmmany are waking up in droves… that is what is going on.
Report Post »the answer to 2012 is 1776.
PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:54pmI love the haters of Ron Paul. It is so funny. When ever there is an article for him, the haters come trolling like crazy. lol. You people are a disgrace to America. Face it!, Your scared he just might win and destroy all the corruption that you will no longer have. CROOKS.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:31pmScrolling down, I see people proudly declaring delegate status for Ron Paul, but none for any of the other candidates. Why is that?
Report Post »Go-rin-no-sho
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:00am@KADAMS You don’t see it, because it’s not happening. Not to mention, that’s something a delegate would PROUDLY advertise, to get feedback from fellow supporters.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:11amif you are a NeoLib with money….. just corrupt the opposition with a Tin Foil Hat Kook
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:56pmHey Republicommie, Was Ron Paul wearing a tin foil hat when he spoke on the floor here? http://americanvisionnews.com/1052/ron-paul-knows-nothing-about-foreign-policy-video
Ron Paul is crazy for wanting the people to have individual liberty and have the federal government follow Constitutional principles. That is craazzy!
I believe all you Paul haters are selfish people. You are so afraid that your life will be changed from the cushy life you are now enjoying with no regard to anyone else. You are right though. Everyones life will change, and the changes will be difficult at first, but I believe we owe this to our future generations, as it was us that helped to get our country to this point by blindly following the establishments idea of corporatism.
Romney, Santorum and Gingrich have a plan to try and make government better. You cannot make big government better, it is impossible. We need someone right now that is dedicated to shrinking government drastically. If we do not, our way of life will be over and the hard times will be even worse.
I predict the fall of the dollar and every single person in the U.S. will be out of work with no unemployment checks as there will be no U.S. government in place to issue them. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Please Wake Up.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:37pmBlazers.. It‘s the DELEGATES that count and It’s Ron Paul with a lions share of them. Look it up. He can definitely win the nomination there are 40 states left!
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:46pmI am a Delegate for Ron!!! Proud to serve. Seems the media and Beckers have a hard time understanding UNBOUND DELEGATES!!! I am one hoping to make it all the way.
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Report Post »oldguy49
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:50pmafter watching and paying attention to the canidates i have to say i am going over to paul…….we need someone to change this crap in dc and the white house……..hopefully people will see this before its too late if not already……….i don’t agree with a lot of his foreign policy, but what does it matter if we have no country !!!!
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:10pm18 and bottom of the pack is a lion’s share?? Let me guess…It’s a conspiracy!
Report Post »CorpsmanToPA
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:15pmI am a delegate for Ron Paul here in Michigan. We will win.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:28pmI’m not a RP supporter (from the posts nearby, I suppose it must be because I’m a corrupt corporatist sheeple, so there is no arguing on the nefarious origin of my failing to see the light and support Dr. Paul). Still, he seems to be getting some unfair treatment. I was stunned last week when Hannity spoke about the THREE Republican candidates — and he was counting Newt but not Ron Paul. Very odd.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:05pmI am a delegate too for Ron Paul. Cali..
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:15pm@OLDGUY Congratulations on your new awakening! I know quite a few older people going for Paul…one a retired General. and a lot of talk in private circles are leaning toward Paul.. you are absolutely right..if we have no country..then what would it matter..I believe more and more will gain your insight..At first I was thinking..no..not yet..I will put Paul on a back burner in case of an emergency..then I realized..hey..this is an emergency..it is now or forever hold our peace and lose all of our freedom and country.. God Bless you Old Guy.
Report Post »Guitar Master
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:36pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
THE REPORTER’S View
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It‘s astonishing that THE BLAZE even mentions the name of Ron Paul in it’s blog.
Perhaps Beck & company is finally seeing the light !
THE REPORTER supports Ron Paul.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:36pm@QPWILLIE You’re just angry and can not refute the facts QP. NONE of the candidates will make ANY difference other than RON PAUL.
Report Post »To say any of these candidates (Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, Obama) will make government smaller is being quite naive. Do your research.
justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:04pmHey hey hey now. I resent being called QPWILLY!
Report Post »Guitar Master
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:34pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
From THE REPORTER
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It’s simply shocking that THE BLAZE dare even mention the name Ron Paul anywhere in this blog !!
Maybe THE BLAZE and Glenn Beck are finally starting to see the light.
THE REPORTER supports RON PAUL !!
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:29pmForeign Policy;
Somehow the media has brainwashed Americans into believing that invading foreign countries, while disregarding their Constitutions, and rule of law, while killing scores of civilians is a ‘strong foreign policy’. Not to mention spreading our military thin throughout the world and leaving our borders wide open.
I think what we consider a strong foreign policy is a bit skewed. If you think starting unConstitutional wars, and killing MILLIONS of innocent people abroad is a strong foreign policy/defense…well our definition of a strong foreign policy differs.
The terrorist/civilian kill ratio is ~1:10 That is for every ‘terrorist’ killed 10 innocent civilians (children, women, men) die (Brookings Institute, and GTD Global Terrorism Database). This begs the question; How many terrorists have we just created? We could never end this war without genocide.
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:19amGot to do what the TV says. The TV tells them to fear Iran, and that Ron Paul is crazy. Oh oh, nevermind… Snuggies are now made in leopard print. I must have one to go with my George Forman Grill, Hotsocks and Slapshot….
Report Post »rotcarpenter
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:26pmWin a state first
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:30pmGOP and voter fraud go hand in hand. Ever google “diebold voter fraud”?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:38pmIANMC002 Bingo ! I’ve seen it and voter fraud is alive and well.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:59pm@ianmcoo2. Which is why the repubes are so sensitive to voter fraud. Thieves are always worried about thieves.
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:37pm@Exrepube: If that was the case, why is Debbie Was-a-man Shultz in such an uproar over showing ID to vote? Why did J. Christian Adams (former DoJ) blow the whistle on the ‘Black Panther’ voter intimidation cases when they were summarily dismissed because the fraud was on the part of the libs/dems? Hmm. A bit of a slant, from your side.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:44amIowa
Nevada
Maine
All states where Paul was projected to do well, win even, according entrance polls, but somehow he just can’t win. Votes were lost, counting done in secret, tally’s held out of state jurisdiction, entire cities and precintcs disqualified, caucuses canceled for supposed “bad weather”, caucuses moved to new locations without notice, college students wrongly told they are not eligible to vote in caucuses… And we’re supposed to just accept that these are all a coincidence? The Iowa GOP Chairman even said that if Paul won they would “pull the vote”, whatever that means.
When 12 people get up to speak for a candidate at an Iowa caucus site, and Ron Paul gets ZERO votes at that site, there is fraud.
When there are only two caucus votes televised in Las Vegas, Nevada and Ron Paul wins both with 60%, and NONE of the rest of the precincts in Clark Country are even counted, there is fraud.
When the Maine GOP Chairman calls the race with 81% of the vote counted, 125 cities recording zero votes for all candidates, and refuses to count an entire county whose caucus HE canceled, there is fraud.
One instance I could explain away. Two or three, possibly. But every time Ron Paul is on the ballot there are shenanigans. It happens too much to be coincidence.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 9:20amTexas Chris: It’s becoming rather obvious. Fortunately Paul‘s people are on to the tricks and it’s being watched very closely now.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:26pmDang, there’s money not-well-spent. Such is life.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:36pmDarn you, Tron! BTW the Ray Charles, “America” you played this morning was a great way to start the day. Thanks for that.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:39pmI know, I know; thorn in your side; but the good news is you and I will both vote against the jackwagon that’s in office now. You know, if Paul was the nominee, he would have my vote. That’s the truth.
Thanks for tuning in!!!
Report Post »DJEyeDub
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:26pmNice, I like PayPal even more – innovation will save the nation. There is no free world without America, but, I’m not the biggest Ron Paul fan. Like every candidate, they have good and bad points in comparison to my politics. What I do know, and I’ll wager Mr. Thiel would agree, is that four more years of Obama and you can kiss the free world goodbye.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:20pmI am a Ron Paul fan.
Thank you, Mr. Thiel!
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:22pmJust a little fyi…you should go to opensecrets(.)org and check out Romneys top contributors. I am sorry but this IS the CANCER in this country. We now live in a Corporatocracy.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:04amWhile you‘re there check out Ron Paul’s top donors.
Report Post »gr8photoman
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:21pmI quit using PayPal last year. What a crappy company. This is just another good reason not to use them.
The only thing creepier that a room full of Obama worshipers is a blog full of Paulistas.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:24pmYeah, we’re such a disgusting breed of humanity wanting liberty.
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:23pmYeah all that talk about “life” and “liberty” and “sound money”!
Report Post »What a bunch of wackos!
Almost as crazy as that bunch that wrote the constituion and founded our nation.
RepubliCorp
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:28amDr. Ron has been the chair of the Monetary Policy Subcommittee for over a year. What has he done? Hide/Ignore or spin Ron Pork Paul’s congressional record of 23 Years in Congress, creating 620 bills of which 4 made it to the floor and only one became law. All talk, no show
Report Post »As for earmarks, the congressman requested at least $157 million for fiscal year 2011, and another $398 million for fiscal year 2010, according to his congressional Web site. The provisions included $2.5 million for a “Historic Downtown Redevelopment Project” in Baytown, Texas; $8 million for replacing recreational fishing piers damaged during hurricanes; and $18 million for ship canal operations and maintenance. Mr. Small Government
Texas Chris
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:50amExcuse me, but I live in his district and I would really like to get something for the taxes I was forced to pay.
I don’t go to McDonnalds and slap a $20 on the counter and walk out. I order food, and eat it. I paid for it, I should get it.
I don‘t mail in a car payment every month for a car I don’t drive, or even own.
I don‘t pay child support for a kid that’s not mine, that I’ve never seen, or doesn’t even exist (or maybe I do, depends on how you look at it I guess).
Why would I pay taxes and expect my representative to not bring some of that back to my district in the form of roads, hospitals, schools, etc.?
He. Votes. Against. The. Spending.
If every congressman did the same we wouldn’t be in this problem.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:16pmLets face it people. A vote for Santorum, Romney, Gingrich or Obama will be a vote for MORE war, more government, and LESS freedom.
They all supported the Patriot Act, or NDAA…just the facts.
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:23pmYup that‘s the bug that’s stuck up my arse. I have nothing but contempt for anyone who has supported such vile legislation.
“I know Justice is indivisible. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
Martin Luther King
“Even today, there is little value in ensuring survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.”
John F. Kennedy
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:25pmYour post is too confusing for so called conservatives,they think Rick,Newt and Mitt are conservatives when in reality they’re big government tools the lot of them.None of them talk about making government smaller and there’s a very good reason for that.
Report Post »MrOVW
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:16pmExcellent! PayPaul!
Report Post »Naps
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:42amHey Blaze. Where in the HELL is an article on the 2000military vets that marched on the White House in support of Ron Paul yesterday? Ii bet if they would of marched in support of Santorum or Romney,the articles would be endless. Agenda maybe?
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:12pmA vote for RON PAUL is a vote for YOU, and your LIBERTY!!!
Report Post »db321
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:19pmI thought Ron Paul dropped out!
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:34pm@DB. A prime example why you should not be allowed to vote.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:33amVote Freedom ! http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/angry-white-man?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7da84ca
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:12pmSuper PAC supporting Ron Paul is operated by a 9/11 ’truther’ http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10358155-super-pac-supporting-ron-paul-is-operated-by-a-911-truther#.TzRax3oda2A.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:16pmOh deary deary
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:17pm…and you believe the official story…lol
Report Post »Taldren
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:18pmRofl, Time_2 uses MSNBC to support his arguments.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:24pmCan’t help the MSNBC link, but they did do the work on the story.
AND…. “The largest donor to a SuperPAC supporting Ron Paul is Peter Thiel, the sort of ultra-wealthy, super-national figure Paul and his supporters love to hate.
Thiel — who gave $900,000 to the pro-Paul group Endorse Liberty — made his fortune as the co-founder of PayPal; he was also an early investor in Facebook, and is now a major player in the world of high-tech venture capital. He’s also a devoted libertarian and devoted Republican: He hosted a fundraiser for the confrontational gay conservative group GOProud at his grand apartment off Union Square in 2010.
Thiel is also a member of the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group, the elite, invitation-only conference that’s the frequent subject of conspiracy theories.
“They probably get together and talk about how they’re going to control the banking systems of the world and natural resources,” Paul said in 2008.
Thiel shares, though, Paul’s anti-government, and anti-Est@blishment, impulses. He has funded a prize to encourage talented students to drop out of college, and is a major supporter of the cause of “Seasteading,” creating independent, water-borne cities free of national law.”
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:27pmROTFLMAO!
He DID use MSNBC to try and support his argument! Way to go there V.I.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:28pmYou have to admire his tenacity. I‘ve been trying to convince him that’s it is more fun being a part of the liberty movement than against it, but…
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:31pmUs Paulistinians love PayPal and all pro Freedom Money Making Entities. Eat it, T2 your schtick is weak.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:41pmTIME 2 see a shrink asap you’re off the deep end son.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:48pmTROLLTRAINER. You don’t see me presenting an argument here do you? What I did was present information. You can choose to read, or you can choose to ignore. Still, I see no tangible results from the on-line course you’re taking at TROLLTRAINER Univ. If a Ron Paul supporter can use CREW as a source which I saw either yesterday, or the day before… I guess they can handle some of this. Am I right? Of course I am.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:19pmI choose to ignore, I am not going to waste my time with your regurgitated, copy and paste propaganda. You should look into getting a life…really…
Report Post »Taldren
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:22pmYou just seem to be a very confused person in general. You rage on about liberals and such and then use them as an information source. Not only that, but then use progressive liberal tactics by throwing as many things at a story as you can as to try and get something to stick.
You either believe in the 1st Amendment or you don’t. You either believe in personal responsibility or you don’t. You are either for Divine Providence or you don’t.
Paul has shown that no one has any power over his convictions, so I have to ask … who cares? None of Ron Paul’s supporters are running for president or have any “power” over him should he win the election. He isn’t his supporters any more then Santorum is his supporters.
Support the man, or don’t … but don’t try to muddy the waters like some liberal want-to-be.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:33pmI guess a Ron Paul supporter here on the second page of this topic didn’t get the memo from the other Paul groupies. Do not use what might be considered to be a non-reliable, or partisan source as information for whatever the reason, UNLESS OF COURSE… it makes Ron Paul look good. Heh-heh-heh…
IANMCOO2
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:42pm
@QPWILLIE So all these other candidates support the blah-blah-blah. Santorum was voted most corrupt Senator by [CREW 2006]. Gingrich DEFRAUDED… blah-blah-blah…
2nd Para… more blah-blah-blah…
THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDN’ **(How Ironic you say that IANCMOO2)**
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:41pmTROLLTRAINER. I read yesterday where you stated you’re a Florida Primary Ron Paul “conscience” voter. Hmmmmm. I also read where you stated… you will vote for the nominee and Ron Paul is a lunatic. Hmmmm, strange. That seems not to square with your “conscience” eh? Confused much?
Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:54pmSo what loser? I believe 911 was an inside job? im not the boggey man. grow the hell up
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:56pmTime 2…havent you ran out of that bad crack yet? The boogey man Ron Paul is coming to get you! You had better hide!
Report Post »I would love to come down to your mommas basement to see your face when Dr Paul is your President! ROFLMAO
trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:59pmguess it is confusing. The way I see it Ron Paul is our only chance to get this thing turned around. I disagree with much of his ideology, but I disagree with big government progressive RINOs even more. Paul is a nut, maybe even a dangerous nut (insert Paul’s maniacal laugh)…But congress would hold him in check.
But that is all besides the point now, isn’t it? That is why I question why you are wasting your time with it. I suppose my perspective has changed since I did vote. It is all just pointless noise now, my ONLY choice is to vote the Republican candidate in the general election. I really do not even care who that is at this point. THEY ALL SUCK! So…That is my story, though I wonder why you care. Who are you supporting?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:18pmTROLLTRAINER. I don’t really care. Just wanted to see if you’re still ignoring? Lmao!
But you did bring a tear to me Irish eyes for opening up like that!!
Picture in your mind for a moment…. R. Lee Ermey throwing a tissue box at you.
Consider yourself… TRAINED!
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:27pmTrained? I don’t see it like that. Just like yesterday I am treating you fairly and respectfully while you act like a jackass. It does not diminish me, it makes you look bad. Almost like you have something to prove with me.
You claim to be a Nam vet. I think you lie. I think you are a teenager. You act like one.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:43pmTROLLTRAINER. Remember I never posted to you… YOU posted to me. On both ocassions, today and yesterday. If I HAD posted to you, and made a whiney remark like you did me yesterday… then maybe it would seem as though I have something to prove to you.
Fact of the matter here… I didn’t pay attention to what you posted or commented on until yesterday. I sense you feel threatened by me and what I post somehow, I suggest you walk it off. I really don’t care what you think of me, whether I spent one day in the Service.. or whatever.
Again… you came to me and posted, I didn’t come to you.
Other than that, I don’t know what to tell you, but ignore and enjoy your place on The Blaze… Training Trolls… or whatever.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:46pmBut now that I asked it, I am curious. Who do YOU support Time_to_end? You are full of so much hatred for Paul, but you do not tell us who the better choice is. Or do you even care? Are you just trolling the paulbots? If so, I can understand the motivation, I have considered it myself. You wouldnt by chance be Beckisnuts under yet another name? No…I don’t think so, you seem smarter than him, though that is not saying much. Still bet you are under 30 years old though…
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:19pmLook TROLLTRAINER. I support Rick Santorum… have sent his campaign lot’s of dough recently, and more on the way in a few weeks if he keeps me interested. I also will voted for the eventual nominee (which btw, I’ve stated on here more than a few times). I would even vote for Paul if he were the nominee…THAT’S how bad I want Obama out. But that will not happen no matter what BS they try to pander about a brokered convention, delegates, blah-blah-blah.
I served 32 years in the U.S. Army ending my career in 2002. You do the math.
I also have had numerous run-ins with our fabulous pacifist, anti-war, anti-Military and isolationists. I won’t bore you with the details. I have seen the leftists and the Ron Paul leftists of the same stripe over many years… up close and personal. Capishe?
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:30pmWell, look at that, we are both talking and we are both not bad guys. How about that?
Your story sounds close to mine even. I can respect Santorum. I can also respect Romney and even Gingrich. None of them come close to my political ideology, but so what? Too much noise, the truth is we cannot know what any of these folks would do once in office…Not even Ron Paul. Get past the mud slinging, he is not an isolationist or a pacifist. He is also ultimately right but the real world just does not play by the rules. If you want to crusade against him then more power to you, it does not threaten me in any way. But you surely understand most people do not take your posts seriously.
In any case, thanks for being authentic with me. And thank you for your service. I was fortunately too young for that war by a few short years, but I know many who went.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:48pmTROLLTRAINER. A great phrase I used in the Army… You don’t have to believe what I believe, as long as YOU believe that “I” believe it.
As far as people here not taking me seriously? Don’t really care, I’m here for me… not an internet fan club. I know where my fans are, and they know I am their’s… we served together… thousands upon thousands of us… all through the years… all over the world.
As the hippies would say… Peace.
Report Post »CptStubbing
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:02amIsn‘t Santorum’s campaign run by a “birther.” well the spokeswoman called Obama a “radical islamist.” http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/319954
You can keep talking about 9/11 “truthers” or any other conspiracy theorist, all you want. But as long as your guy is actually spouting these conspiracy theories out loud, it will be hard for us to take you or him seriously.
This is a new one I just heard Santorum Spouting.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/dutch-outraged-over-santorums-euthanasia-clai
I mean really, saying 10% percent of people there die from euthanasia, and then saying half are involuntary. Talk about a conspiracy theorist.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 3:09pmTime_2, Here you are again, I am surprised you are not bashing the military again. To everyone, Time_2 bashes the military every chance he gets. He is not a patriot although he espouses once being in the military. He is no friend of the U.S.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 4:18pmTime_2, Here is your guy Santorum, talk about tin foil on the head! http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3s.htm
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:11pmA vote for Ron Paul is a vote for YOU, and your LIBERTY!!!
Ride the train of LIBERTY!!!
RON PAUL 2012!!!
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 1:51pmRON PAUL 2012. Freedom to choose Right or Wrong. Freedom to be wrong and face the consequences is how an individual learns…Take away freedom and we don’t become…we will be what “they” tells us we are. When we lose being Co-Creators with God’s Will …… the devil wins.
Report Post »svan71
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:09pmRon Paul on Social Conservatism: ‘I Think It’s a Losing Position’
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:18pmIt is, and it isn’t even really conservative when people want the government to push a social agenda. It’s more inline with the temperance and family values movement at the start of the progressive era.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 6:57amIf you are a real conservative, you set conservative values for yourself and your family. You leave the lawmaking for protecting property and enforcing contracts, period.
When countries begin to legislate morality they end up exterminating those not considered “redeemable”. Germany, Russia, China. Let’s not follow them in that regard.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:06pmi like the libertarian message ……………not sure paul is the best messenger though .
people ( understandably) have a difficult time understanding his perspective on foreign affairs because he is seeing it from a continuous constitutional point of view that would have required us to actually have made our decisions constitutionally since the beginning ………..but since that is not the case, his view seems foreign today, and is actually not feasible in this day and age. first we would have to slowly revert back to constitutionality slowly over time just like a heroin addict cant quit cold turkey . but, if you look at his views and place yourself back in time before the multitude of errors were made he is actually right …………..we shouldnt have involved ourselves in many global situations, and we sure shouldnt be policing the world
his domestic policies are dead on
sadly, too many neo-political actors from both sides of the spectrum fear the loss of governmental power that would be the conclusion of pauls policies and thus the media and pundits misrepresent most of his views
and as most of you regulars here know, im no paulbot but i do take the time to actually investigate the news . he has a big problem with messaging , but then so do most honest people
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:29pmThanks for your honest assessment.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:37pmNo doubt. Can you imagine how popular he would be if he was also a great speaker?
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:03pmthe libertarian philosophy is based on 1 simple principle.
It is never right to INITIATE force upon anyone who has not damaged anyone elses person or property.
but, i hear what you are saying, but the thing is we CAN quit cold turkey…
to say we can’t is to say that we will NEVER end wars. you have to lay down your arms, and say it’s over, we are done, you are FREE to live your lives. and they will THANK US.
look up some of his older videos.. spread them around… he has been saying the same things for decades…
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:05pmif you are going to say they are going to just attack us after that… i’m going to chuckle, because i don’t think you realize how powerful we actually are… we have not been “trying” in these “wars” … these are “conflicts” used to create money… same as britain did when it funded both sides of the war…
Report Post »KAdams
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:47pm@Justangry: I think Ron Paul is a great speaker. You can at least discern honesty and integrity from how he speaks. Unlike Obama. Check out reverse speech… it’s not a perfect science, but the concept is that the subconscious express congruency with what is being spoken… it’s very interesting, and all of Ron Paul’s reverse speech clips show 100% congruency, as opposed to Obama’s clips, which are almost 100% incongruent with the message that is being spoken. Check it out!
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:25pmActually, quitting heroin cold turkey is the best way to do it and is the easiest over the long run.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 2:31am@Kadams, Yeah, I love his speeches too, personally. I hang on every word and can’t get enough. I’ve just seen how in some debates, he has issues reaching those who don’t know how to listen.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:04pmThe more I hear from the RNC/GOP “spin”
Report Post »the better I like Ron Paul.
progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:11pmLike the judge said we have a one party system,the big government party and they’ll spend us into oblivion.
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:27pmThere is that.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:01pmThe game is now changed. Watch what happens next, Romney-lovers.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:07pmIf this gets to a brokered convention Paul might have a slight chance. He now has 19 delegates to Romney’s 123. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you…
Report Post »Taldren
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:16pm@trolltrainer: No, Romney has barely any delegates. Ron Paul has won nearly all of the delegates from every caucus state. The campaign has been very open and clear about this … it has even been reported on both Reality Check and , of all places , Rachel Maddow. The state “vote” is only a straw poll … the people that actually make the real vote are the delegates and while everyone else’s supporters leave after the strawpoll results, Paul’s supporters stay and get elected as delegates.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:29pm@taldren: This is true for all the States that are not “Winner Take All”, such as Florida. None the less, Ron is doing great in the delegate pool.
Report Post »Texas Chris
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:01amMy personal delegate counting looks like Romney has about 119 bound delegates, and Paul has about 7 bound and 120 UNbound delegates.
When/if Gingrich and Santorum drop out and release their delegates, Ron Paul will pick them up because his supporters got picked as bound delegates.
In the event of a brokered convention, Ron Paul will win (barring GOP shenanigans at the convention).
Report Post »OperationNorthwoods
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:01pmThanks for supporting the Constitution Mr. Thiel.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:00pmeven if I had that kind of money to give away I sure wouldn’t give it to a political campaign. Think how much good that money could have done.
I wonder, if they add it all up in the end, how much money will be spent on this presidential election?
Report Post »SoupSandwich
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:13pmBillions and billions.
Report Post »jcannon98188
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:28pmHow much will be spent on the Ron Paul campaign? A few million. He doesn’t have the financial backers like other candidate, except for this patriot who just donated 1.7 to Dr. Paul. His campaign is funded by Americans, not corporations.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:33pmJcannon
Report Post »thats exactly right. while all the other PACs are awash in cash from wealthy and corporate donors – the ron paul campaign cannot rely on a PAC because Ron Paul is not beholden to special interests. His support has always been from individual donors. A Ron Paul presidency would remove the corporatists from the government teet and so they have every reason not to support him. It is up to the average american to wake up in time…
3monkeysmomma
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:27pmOh, I think saving our nation from economic collapse is a pretty worthy cause.
Report Post »stang289
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:59pmrON pAUL 2012
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:07pmBoy, your comment sure convinced me.
BTW, let me know when you get ready to learn how to use that caps lock and I’ll try to explain it for you.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:33pmRon Paul 2012!
If all you want is punctuation, no problem. Now promise you will vote for Uncle Ron.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:48pm@NoNannyState4me
You get Paul nominated and I’ll vote for him. I‘m not dumb enough to vote for anybody who doesn’t get nominated because I DO know what 0bama is doing.
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:10pm@qpwillie – LOL, I can tell your highly offended by this article. You make fun of some one because he mixed up the caps on the word. WOW! lol. Only losers correct people on a blog that nobody cares about after tomorow.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:56pmBravo Mr.Thiel a patriot indeed and the government needs to be shrunk substantially,the smaller it is the better for us.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:01pmI don’t really think the government is going to get smaller when you Paulbots help 0bama get reelected.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:04pmYou need a new crystal ball,the one you’re using is too cloudy.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:10pm@progressiveslayer
It doesn‘t take a crystal ball to know 0bama won’t make the government any smaller.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:14pmWell it might reinforce the lesson the GOP obviously didn’t learn with Ross Perot. They’re crooks too, and if they’re not going to stand up for our civil liberties, and fiscal responsibility, then piss on them. The liberty movement isn‘t about D’s and R’s.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:16pmQPWILLIE That isn‘t what I was referring to it’s your assertion that Paul supporters will help Obama get re-elected and that simply isn’t true,you don’t know how someone will vote.
Report Post »ianmc002
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:20pm@QPWILLIE and you think government will get smaller under Santorum, Romney, or Gingrich? Really?
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who will make ANY difference.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:22pmjustangry
“Well it might reinforce the lesson the GOP obviously didn’t learn with Ross Perot.”
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That would be like chopping your dog’s legs off to teach him to come to you the next time you call him.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:27pm@progressiveslayer
Paulbots will readily admit that they will write in Paul if he doesn’t get the nomination. Everybody INCLUDING THEM knows that will help 0bama.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:31pm@ianmc002
That comment is a sure sign that you spend too much time listening to Alex Jones and no time at all learning what 0bama is up to.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:34pmNope it’s called taking out the trash. Besides, I‘m not sure he can’t win anyway. I believe people are underestimating his appeal across party lines and with independents. I firmly believe he’s the only candidate that stands a chance of beating Obama anyway.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:37pm@ QP: Establishment warchickens want to blackmail the party with Big Government candidates that are excited to use the WarMachine, we will black mail the party back with a Small Government candidates that is ready to put the WarMachine in mothballs.
I am sure you know what mothballs smell like, I just wonder how you got the legs apart without tearing the legs off.
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:42pm@justangry
You do realize that another term for 0bama would most likely mean you wouldn’t get another chance to save this country, right?
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:08pmLike I said, I‘m not sure he couldn’t win if he wasn’t the nominee. It’s not like the media is telling us the truth about ANYTHING.
Report Post »resme
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:18pmSantorum=Obama=Bush=Clinton=Bush Sr, Wait what?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:15pmYou are right, I will vote for Ron Paul even if I have to write his name in. I will not vote for another mcain. I dont see it as me helping Obama get elected, I see it as all the of the people voting for one of the clones(romney, gingrich, santorum) are getting him elected. Hell that might be what yall want, most of the polices of the clones are the same as obama.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:52pmFact: anyone NOT voting for Ron Paul is “helping (the banks and corporations which grew up around them) Obama get elected”… Romney= goldman sachs, obama = goldman sachs… gingrich is a lobbyist, santorum was voted most corrupt politician 2006…
you want to do your own homework or just talk trash?
Report Post »YOU need to come to your senses and not cast a vote for this corporatism\facist bs we have today…
KAdams
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:55pmHehe: Newt as ‘Most likely Jacuzzi Lobbyist’ http://www.youtube.com/user/schmoyoho#p/c/736C3116AD309B58/10/OGhsbRb_pqE
Also note that Jay Inslee says 2500 MEGAWATTS. That’s the output of your average nuclear reactor….
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:56pmI’m just hanging around here waiting for the Paulbots. I’m in the mood for some comedy this evening.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:57pmGlad to be of service willie
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:59pmYou’ve already provided it.
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:01pm“Paulbots” – how droll and utterly democrat.
Maybe you should call them racists, too.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:02pmJust read your old posts and that will give you some chuckles,I know when I read yours there good for some laughs.
Report Post »Stopit
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:08pmA chicken crossed the street and …
Nah, but howdy!
Report Post »resme
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:17pmI like neo-nazis myself, Can i have a link paul haters?
Report Post »PoliticiansRCrooks
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:16pm@qpwillie – Your a loser. Let me guess. You want your welfare check still? Oh wait… your all worked up about abortion even when we have much bigger problems to be talking about? Oh wait, let me guess, you believe in Global Warming? LOL.. Oh wait, let me guess you feel protected when the TSA sticks there hands down your pants? Oh wait let me guess, you still want food stamps even though you have a job? Oh wait let me guess, you still want to police to the world and have 900 bases all around the world including war with Iran, even though we are 15 trillion in debt and can’t afford it?…… Oh wait let me guess, you believe the department of education is doing a fantastic JOB!! Have fun when your kid gets his lunch taken away and makes you pay for the lunch at school, even though they just fed he or she chicken nuggets and greasy fries. I could go on all day. I can see you at home, wishing the Government can come save you. LOL. Sheep MAN
Report Post »Naps
Posted on February 21, 2012 at 7:14amhey QP,I didn’t see 2000 military vets march on the White House in support of Romney,Gingrich,or Santorum? Only Dr. Paul. But you probably didn’t even hear about it due to the MSM agenda(including the Blaze)
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