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Like ‘Being Raped’: Elderly Woman Describes TSA Pat Down in St. Louis
- Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:03am by
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Traveling now requires problematic decisions:
Business traveler, Penny Moroney, was flying home from St. Louis to Chicago. Like all other airline passengers, she had to go through security first. When the metal in her artificial knees set off the detectors, she had to undergo more screening. When Moroney asked if she could go through a body scanner, she was told none were available.
A pat down was the only alternative.
(via Gateway Pundit)
Moroney explains “Her gloved hands touched my breasts…went between them. Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin… then put her hands up on outside of slacks, and patted my genitals.”“I was shaking and crying when I left that room” Moroney says. “Under any other circumstance, if a person touched me like that without my permission, it would be considered criminal sexual assault.”



















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Grandpa
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:47amLet’s think outside of the box here. Why not put a tazer in the magazine pouch of every seat? Then have pre-flight instructions on how to use them and explain strong consequences for misusing them. Then let the travelers manage any situations.
Of course we’d need a locked cockpit and armed pilots.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:20amTotally agree, great idea! I was hoping for bowie knives to be issued to all people 18+ years of age, but stun guns work too. Heck sir, I’d even be happy with .38 revolvers with frangible ammo to all adult male non Muslim citizens 18+ on the flight.
Report Post »Freedom_2012
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:36amThis is going to get real ugly over Thanksgiving. People who have to travel, use your cell and record the “groping”. I’m sure if this gets enough attention, TSA will have to stop. Until then, if you don’t have to travel by plane, don’t!
Report Post »Santafeconservative
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:31amHappily we have another option: Let’s all write to our airports asking them to “opt out” of the TSA and hire their own private screening company. A clause in the law allows this.
To entrepreneurs out there: Start private screening companies and hire military vets. They’ve been trained to profile based on behavior. And they deserve the work!
To NickDeringer re the rape distinction: Good point. However, we need to remember that this is a violation of our physical dominion without our permission. Distinguishing between touch and penetration is important to do, but we must sustain the outrage. Otherwise, we’ll end up capitulating.
Report Post »Star Spangled
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:25amWOW , This is TOO much !
Report Post »And shouldn’t we know the backgrounds of these people ? What were they before they were TSA ?
I mean were these homeless people , have they ever been in jail , how are the people screening us screened for this job ?
loveoursoldiers
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 5:27pmoh yes.. they hired thousands of these people..I think they are union…. so perhaps this was done to make the unemployment numbers better and pay off the unions.. and, as usual, at the expense ( and abuse) of the middle class
Report Post »let’s think about this.. the upper class/elites have private jets.. and the “lower‘ class probably don’t fly as much.. so again white middle class are targeted
paul1776
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:41amThe SS, The KGB and now The TSA….just sayin….
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:29amThe SS, The KGB and now The TSA….just sayin….
Report Post »This disrespects the memory of the millions of people brutalized and murdered by the SS and KGB. It is wrong what the TSA is being ordered to do but keep it in context. The airline passengers taken into private search rooms don’t disappear for ever like the SS and KGB did. I am not defending what the TSA is doing but it gets me going when people flippantly use the SS, KGB and Hitler to describe something they think is bad. The SS, KGB and Hitler were monsters the likes we have thankfully never experienced in the US.
Conservative Grinch
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 10:03amHugh Williams
And the United States has not chosen the path of Hitler and Stalin? Hitler and Stalin did not start out murdering people right away either. First the had to brainwash an apathetic population into believing that they were the best little brothel in world. Just when you thought that the people of those doomed nations could not debauch themselves any lower Hitler and Stalin turned it up a notch.
First its a virtual strip search by a scanner conducted by same sex TSA Personnel. After the public becomes desensitized to that the Kangaroo Supreme Court will rule that in interest of security that opposite sex TSA employees may conduct the search if no same sex employees are available. Then the court will rule that opposites sex employees may conduct the search even if same sex employee is available if it is an issue of employee training. Next thing you know you are standing there buck-a$$ed naked while a fat ugly female TSA employee is groping your ball ostensibly searching for LSD..
It is a matter of conditioning the sheeple. One small step a time. One more indignation piled upon another until you are just the property of a nation state that is as bad as NAZI Germany or Stalinist Russia.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 10:28amConservative Grinch
Report Post »I don’t know about you but, I would rather a fat ugly TSA woman grab my junk than the best looking TSA guy.
ilikai
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:36amShe did give her permission when she bought the plane ticket. Get off the planes, take a train, bus or drive to where you need to go. If you have a meeting overseas, do it by internet. Let the airlines feel the pain when their passengers leave in droves. Then maybe they will kick tsa to the curb and do things better.
Report Post »Conservative Grinch
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:43am“She did give her permission when she bought the plane ticket.”
Oh, silly me. The last time I bought an airline ticket over the Internet, for the life of me, I can’t remember reading the statement that says that I gave consent to the TSA to cop a feel.
I do remember a written disclaimer that says the tickets can’t be sold, transferred, or refunded. There was that disclaimer that states that the Airline can charge me a huge fee if I change my travel plans. But there definitely was no written disclaimer that suggested that I gave consent to the TSA to reach down my pants and grab my balls.
You see you and your its alright and the government can do no wrong thinking is why America is as big as a Whore it is today. Oh, I know what you are thinking. America is the best little whore house in the world. Would you rather cat up with Miss China? She uses whips and things. Hey, you are still getting screwed!
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:16amILIKAI
Report Post »How far does your theory she gave permission she bought a ticket go. Can any private business put fine print to a contract that allows them to touch clients against their will? If you buy a new car there are tons of pages in the contract you must sign, nobody reads every word. If after buying the car the salesperson tells you they must search you and reach into your pants because it was in the contract, you gave permission. Is that OK, or is it just the government that can suspend rights whenever they please?
CrazyTexan
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:58pmSo a person who stays at a job after the boss has made it clear that one of the things she must do to keep her job is to sleep with him/her is not having her rights violated? The root problem here is that in order to fly as a business person you must be willing to submit to the government rights to your body that if you employer demanded the same, they would be brought up on charges. There are two sets of laws, one for the private sector and another for the Feds.
Report Post »Innocent until proven guilty, probable cause and privacy rights were thrown out with the Patriot Act. Now we have a guy in office who is taking advantage of a passionate mistake that his predecessor made. This is why we cannot allow ANYTHING, even when it is “our side” who is doing it to degrade our liberty. It is how tyrrants are brought to power.
Security is necessary but there is more than one way to skin a cat. We do not have to exchange the prison of terror for the prison of government, it is only bowing before a different master, but a master none the less.
NickDeringer
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:25amI hate to throw cold water on a media frenzy, but here it comes.
1. I have spoken to women who have actually been raped. For somebody to describe a TSA pat down as rape cheapens the pain and suffering of women who were actually violently raped and scarred for life.
2. I know people who fly all over the country on a weekly basis and have never run in to this kind of thing. I agree with Glenn Beck: there’s something strange about this whole scanner thing.
Report Post »Conservative Grinch
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:14am“I have spoken to women who have actually been raped. For somebody to describe a TSA pat down as rape cheapens the pain and suffering of women who were actually violently raped and scarred for life.”
You sound like a stupid liberal to me.
“Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin.”
It sounds like the perv is copping a feel to me! If anyone else did they’d be charged with sexual assault in this great whore known as America.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:59am@Conservative Grinch
“Stupid liberal” – I’ll forgive you for that one.
Go visit your local rape crisis center some time and get a dose of reality.
Report Post »Conservative Grinch
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:27amSo, I take it you won’t cry rape if a stranger puts his or her hand down your pants. After all “Go visit your local rape crisis center some time and get a dose of reality.”
Report Post »CrazyTexan
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 1:10pmNick,
Report Post »I am new to the comments section though I have been reading them for quite some time. Your comments are the final straw. You have talked to women…how nice for you. Let me tell you what it is really like. You see I was molested by an “Uncle” as a kid, and then raped in college about 25 years ago. I have also been patted down by the TSA. To touch me ANYWHERE even if you know me is a major step and requires MY permission. You can talk to people all you want, but do you know what it is like to live as a woman? No. Whether penetration occurs or not, for someone to touch you in that way without your permission is a violating your control over your body. Isn’t that what rape is really all about? Control? So the feelings the woman expressed are VERY real. Perhaps you need to also talk to children who were molested where no penetration took place and see how that made them feel? Violated, out of control, fearful, embarrassed? Do ‘ya think?. They have many of the same responses as women who have been raped.
bringdough
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:22amFire these TSA workers now! Hire vets that have come home to do security and let them carry their M-16s. Leave the grandmothers, nuns and children alone. Air marshals on all flights Profile, profile, profile. We know who wants to do us harm.
Report Post »SND97
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 5:57amSo? we can’t profile because its a violation of the constitution? Yet we can forget the constitution and rape every American who happens to not be muslim?
I’m sure Granny, and the toddlers are a big threat, we should we be upset? Guys? As most on here already know, the America we have known and loved is gone. Hopefullly we can get it back someday.
Report Post »loveoursoldiers
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 5:34pmright
Report Post »I hope the flying public feels reassured and protected against toddlers and elderly persons with arthritis. oh, wait, I don’t recall any of the aformentioned trying to blow up planes.. do you?
Living In NYC
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 5:19amLooks like Barry and Mama are trying to Nationalize the Airline Industry….no one will be flying soon!
Funny we just saw record earnings in this industry in 2010!…They will be looking for a bailout soon after the govt regulations distroy it (What happened in the Gulf with off-shore drilling – job loss). The Progressives hate Captialism and Profits!!!
Report Post »NHABE64
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 4:57amThis is sad to hear, these outrageous body scanners are despicable to put on the American people. Just another government take over of our basic freedoms, and they call it ensuring our safety. If this is true how could they possibly allow these disgusting muslim women in their burkas to be exempted ? THESE are the people trying to kill us and instead they humiliate older Americans and submit them to body pat downs ? I was happy to hear about that guy punching the TSA GOOD!! There will no doubt me more of this happening in the future. GOOD! Why not just deport ALL muslims out of this country, now THAT would add to the safety of Americans right there. Unfortuntately we have a gutless cowardly Muslim President who doesn’t want to offend anybody in the world except for Americans that is.
Report Post »Randyrocker
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:31amCreate a new label slogan for the President and start using it all the time whenever you refer to him, he might get the point if it catches on. Simply call him ‘The Pat Down President’ or since we all had “The Gipper” referring to Ronald Reagan, why not “The Groper” when referring to Obama.
Report Post »Grope, Grope, Big Strip Sis and Groper Obama. TSA‘s ’Patty Cake‘ ’Fly Your Junk Airlines.’
Brooke Lorren
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:12amSounds like she was sexually assaulted. This makes me sick. How anti-God can you get?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6025310/what_the_bible_says_about_tsa_enhanced.html?cat=16
Report Post »Dekezilla
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:11amInstead of an opt-out day, why not a go-commando day?
If we all wear baggy pants or shorts, TSA is *required* to pat down inside our clothes, ok? The opt-out is too passive, so we really need to make these agents more uncomfortable with their jobs. A ‘nudge,’ if you will. After a few shifts of peering at everyone’s bare junk, this won’t last long. (Fake sounds of delight and arousal during the pat-down might help…)
What can they do? Claim sexual harassment? Hah! As of yet, the government can’t require underwear under regular clothing, and it would only take a few minutes before and after the security line to remove and put our underwear back on if you even want to bother. The best part is they can’t charge you with anything, and no one needs to miss their flight!
Report Post »New-American-Saviors
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:09amThis PART of your Pay-back for the Nov ‘10 Elections. More I’m certain. What bothers me is that the terrorists are Winning. Much to the Joy of the administration it appears. You do the Math.
Report Post »davecoolworld
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:03amThis is a way to control movement. This will shut down the airlines and put more people out of work. Like the drilling moratorium. People are going to need money from the government after all of this bs. Wake up people…gonna get tough.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:37amThe real question everyone should be asking is why is the TSA doing this now? If they have information that a terrorist attack is eminent they should raise the threat level and tell us this is necessary. We have gotten to the point that almost no one trust the government and believes they have the public’s best interest at heart. I don’t know why this is being done but, I don’t think it has anything to do with public safety. The Progressives and Marxist controlling our government may be testing us to see how much the people will allow. We know friends of Obama have profited from the sale of the body scanners. Obama told us he rewards his friends that support him and punishes his enemies that don’t support him. The molestation searches may be Cas Susteen nudging people to submit to the body scans instead of the groping searches. Obama and his minions may be demonstrating to us the Government is all powerful and individuals have no rights and must submit to the will of the Government. This also could be the leftist turning up the heat on the pressure cooker, hoping it will explode into violence. The leftist have been planning the take over of the US and the destruction of Capitalism for decades. Nothing that is happening now is by chance, it has been planned and has a purpose.
Report Post »TOMB2
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:35amEvery time the gov tries to kill corporate/private aviation they do something to increase the use of corporate/private aircraft.A wonderful example of the law of unintended consequences.
Report Post »Hugh Williams
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 1:59pmHere is another possible reason for Obama imposing the new TSA molestation regulations. This is the busiest air travel time of the year. With all this publicity about the unlawful TSA grope searches a few weeks before Thanksgiving (the reporting started last week) a lot of people that would have flown will now drive. This will greatly reduce the revenues of the airlines and may make several become insolvent. If enough of the airlines are on the verge of going out of business Lord Obama can save the day and take over the airlines. Like when he took government control of GM and Chrysler he will not want to but must take over the airlines for the good of the people.
Report Post »Randyrocker
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:56amI don‘t know if you’ve seen him, but there’s a photographer that travels around the world gathering people by the thousands to take off all of their clothes and pose for him, and they all do. He has as I‘ve said done this all over the world in major cities and in the countrysides of the world’s greatest nations. Isn‘t it time for him to do a photo session at any of America’s Airports? I call on him to consider it. I also suggest that if he doesn’t do it, a crowd of people, I mean thousands or more, should show up at the Airports of America and time a massive strip down and stay that way until the cameras are rolling and this gets full media coverage. It will sent a message to Washington and Homeland Security to bugger off and stop playing around with peoples lives as if they were cattle being prodded. Why not make the effort the day after Thanksgiving at about 11:00 am eastern standard time to set an example that Americans will not take this lying down anymore.
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:44amIt is sexual assult! I am not flying. this is way out of hand, watch this is setting us up for something coming from the goverment. Get rid of the TSA!
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »MidwestMomof3
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:41amI asked my hubby today….“They go until ”they stop” on the inside of thighs of men and women….what if I’m on my period and am wearing a thick maxi???”
That, to them, might feel like something being hidden. I told him….screw it…I’ll just pull the dang thing out right then and there and shove it in their face!
Man, I can‘t wait to fly while I’m on it!!! LOL
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:47amfunny, but eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww lol
Report Post »Chett
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:47amlmao, thats a really good one. you go!!
Report Post »Morningcrapper
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:21amYou should have a When Harry met Sally moment…………..
Report Post »free2bme1961
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 6:51amlol….hey, if they wanna know what’s in there, just give it to em’…..
Report Post »Chett
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:27amthis may be the last straw. push back. refuse. write congress. call the cops. spread the word.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:27amGrope & Change. When you get use to be treated like livestock, it will be much easier to around you up.I cant until everyones health records end up on the internet to be sold by some site for $19.99
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:24amNow if only this woman had been a muslim,
none of this would have happened to her !!
Hussain is in full revenge mode now
:O
Report Post »SilentReader
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:19amWow! Crazy. And all of this is NOT going to make us safer.
They should be doing it the same way the Israeli airline is doing it, by profiling. That is to say asking questions about the person and their background, where the person is coming from and going to, do they have a one-way ticket, etc.
I won’t fly until they get this straightened out. Thank you very much.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:41amYou’re right, it will NOT make us safer, but they are trying to provoke violent responses so they can declare martial law! They want to disarm Americans! They refuse to use the only thing that can make us safer: PROFILING!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:14am@DAGNEYT
Good morning Miss Taggart. :)
Actually, what would actually make us safer is to stop prohibiting the carry of firearms in these united States and allow weapons on airplanes. Anything short of that and you’re going to have a police state in short order. Israel’s security is tight, no doubt, but it’s accomplished by a network of espionage and surveillance that I believe most here have no idea about. It’s close to 1984 stuff.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:59amYes, you can tell by looking at her she’s a dangerous terrorist.
Report Post »patriotmom
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:38am@DAGNEYT
“You’re right, it will NOT make us safer, but they are trying to provoke violent responses so they can declare martial law! They want to disarm Americans!”
DITTO!! We must all be very careful about espousing any kind of violence, no matter the issue! Stop to think…is there any reason someone would WANT an “event” to happen? We MUST remain non-violent!!!
“The pursuit of truth does not permit violence on one’s opponent.” Mohandas Gandhi
Report Post »tbb
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:40am@dagneyt I’ve been saying this for 2 years now. They want an excuse to declare matial law. They have been looking for any excuse. What we have to do is not panic but calmly and rationaly use the court system and evey legal means open to us. We need to not lash out as angry as all of this makes us. They know that the time is close that we conservatives will have had enough and someone is going to do something stupid. Those of us who don‘t have to fly shouldn’t fly. This is our only means of protest for something like this. If just half the amout of people who don‘t need to fly didn’t fly the airports and the airlines would loose so much money they would be screeming to get rid of these OTT measures.
Report Post »TakeBackAmerica
Posted on November 23, 2010 at 1:59pmTBB
Report Post »I’m in my fifties, but did we recently change how to spell ‘LOSE’ as in ‘Dont LOSE your wallet”. Why does this generation spell it “LOOSE” and “LOOSING”????
Psychosis
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:18amhey if some stranger is going to get to first, and second base with me , i better at least get a kiss and a mint on my pillow
Report Post »azkenreid
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:09amThere’s going to be enough push back that the TSA will have to back down. Next time I fly, I’m bringing a baseball bat.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 2:29amI’ll be consuming bean burritos for breakfast,lunch and dinner the day before I’ve to get patted by TSA !!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 3:28amOur GOVERNMENT is out of control.This is SHAMEFUL!! Does she look like a friggin’ terrorist????????
Time to push back. We must implement screening like the Israelies do NOW!!
No touching my junk unless you look into my eyes first!!
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 5:56amOver the top….shameless people.
Report Post »thecommish58
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 7:56amThis comment is outlandish…spend some time with a real true rape victim and you will think before making this type of rubbish statement…maybe it was intrusive, maybe it was uncomfortable, maybe it was many things – one thing it was NOT at all like was rape…
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:12am@thecommish58
It’s important to denigrate elderly women for choosing what you think was the wrong word. Maybe her politically correct lexicon is not up to date?
She was sexually assaulted by the government, as many people are being now.
Conservative Grinch
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:29amHell, Former Congress Scum Cynthia McKinney busted a capital cop right in the nose for demanding that she pass through a metal detector. You know she was never charged with assault. That’s only for us Johns and Janes that pay the Great Whore our taxes so we can be screwed.
Ya ya folks I know. America is best little cat house in the world. Would you rather be screwed by Miss Russia?
Cynthia McKinney Attorney: ‘This case has just begun’
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2556.shtml
“Days after noted Hollywood actors/activists and a throng of youth and young adults stood in support and by the side of U.S. Representative Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) to hear her comments pertaining to an altercation with the U.S. Capitol Police on Mar. 28, legal action remains an option and is being considered against the Congressional member who is claiming “being a Black female” and general racism was the catalyst for the incident.”
At a news conference at Howard University in Washington, D.C., renowned actors Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover joined various supporters, Ms. McKinney and her attorneys to state an investigation is welcomed into the physical altercation of Rep. McKinney allegedly hitting a U.S. Capitol policeman after he called for her to stop and not enter the Longworth House Office Building for the House of Representatives.
It is mandated procedure that House members wear Congressional identification lapel pins upon entering and while in the Capitol. Rep. McKinney, on the date of the altercation, was not wearing her pin.
Report Post »Flagwaver
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 8:54amEveryone says that this will prevent the next underwear bomber. However, they fail to realize that the underwear bomber boarded the plane overseas where they don’t do this. They are basically blaming Americans for the problems and giving us the finger, literally in some cases.
Report Post »Fort Mill Joe
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:00am@thecommish58 – Let your wife come over so i can search her like that and then ask her how she feels. I would love to see you tell your wife she has nothing to be upset about. Get real, you idiot. Just because a man doesn‘t stick his junk in her trunk doesn’t mean it’s ok… And it doesn‘t mean the woman doesn’t fee violated or “raped”. You, sir, are a pathetic excuse for a man!
Report Post »patriotmom
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 9:30amBe very careful about espousing any kind of violence, no matter the issue! Stop to think…is there any reason someone would WANT an “event” to happen? We MUST remain non-violent!!!
“The pursuit of truth does not permit violence on one’s opponent.” Mohandas Gandhi
Report Post »KITA
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 10:53amThat is certainly over the top and uncalled for. I hope she files a lawsuit. She was violated and by law – she had to take it. Its not like she could just walk away. I guess she could have, but then she’s driving by herself and probably eating the $300 ticket to fly or whatever it was. I don’t believe she had a choice to drive at that point.
@thecommish58 – just because she used the word “Rape” doesn’t give you the right do undermine what she went through. You are very unkind.
Report Post »potcherboy
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 12:20pmEveryone is complaining, but then when security is relaxed to make everyone happy, who’s going to be the first one blamed if someone sneaks a weapon on and someone gets hurt? TSA. If you think that the security measures are too invasive, then either drive or row.
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on November 19, 2010 at 4:22pmHey Commish, how do you know she hasn’t experienced rape? She’s an old woman, and in her time, not all rape was considered rape (ie, the concept of date rape or a husband raping a wife didn’t exist) and many rapes were tossed out of court. You don’t know.
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