Limbaugh Advertiser Accuses Boycotters of ‘Terrorism’ for Targeting His Company: ‘Hissyfitters’
- Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:42pm by
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In a dramatic segment on Megyn Kelley’s show, Rush Limbaugh advertiser Mark Stevens — founder of marketing firm MSCO — blasted protesters of Limbaugh’s show for effectively committing acts of “internal American terrorism” against his employees and company.
Despite not agreeing with Limbaugh’s comments about Sandra Fluke, Stevens says he and his employees have been targeted with threats, possibly even including death threats, as well as harassment and abuse via phone and email.
“They’ve called my people and my company, they’ve called the women at my company, and told them they’re women haters, the most horrible terms,” Stevens said. “They’ve told me — these are tens of thousands of emails, by the way, most of them are positive but the small group — they’ve told us that we’re under surveillance. The email subject line says ‘citizen of the internet,’ ‘police of the Internet,’ ‘Mark, you’re in danger,’ ‘your house is going to be surrounded by buses,’ ‘your business is going to be destroyed,’ ‘your people are in trouble.’ This is terrorism. Why don’t we start calling it what it is?”
Limbaugh himself recently lent support to Stevens on his show, fingering the group Media Matters as the one responsible for the “boycott” on his show, which has spilt over onto Stevens’ business.
(Related: Media Matters Operative Behind Limbaugh Advertiser Boycott)
While Stevens himself hasn’t named names regarding who his critics are, neither did he dispute Rush’s account. Nor did Stevens say he was frightened of the prospect of protests, even outside his house.
“Let them come,” Stevens said. “Something is going on here that has to be addressed because the country’s at risk. If I can’t advertise where I want to advertise, my business, because of a small group of people who – you can tell, because the vast majority of the emails are in support of us, Rush, the constitution, the American way – a small portion of people, that I call the hissyfitters, who are like children. When my kids were little, they used to go on a screaming fit, and they lay down on the floor and slapped their hands on the floor. My wife and I had a choice, whether to give them an ice cream cone or make them go to their room. Too much of what‘s going on in America right now is we’re giving these hissyfitters an ice cream cone. We have to stop it, and I’m not afraid, and bring on the buses.”
Watch the appearance below:
Stevens says he plans to advertise more heavily, stand his ground, and give no quarter to his opponents.
(H/T Mediaite)
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Comments (143)
bdandsl
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:55pmWhen did it become American to boycott or harrass a company just because they do not agree with you. There are certian companies, people and even charities I will not support but, I do not gather a mob to harrass the company. I simply choose an alternate and I make my point without bullying.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:30pmThe Censorship Campaign fueled with the phony outraged flamers.
The sponsors have found that yielding to a small group of radicals actually hurts their marketing, as it associates their brand with the radicals.
Once the sponsors get a load of what these radicals are saying on their sites twitter accounts and how they pretend to be angry customers and read the comments about how they the sponsors are “Towing The Line”
they realize what a mistake they have made with their association and “Towing The Line” for a very small group of radicals is not good for their brand.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:30pmMark Stevens is my hero!
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:57pmWell said Mr Stevens. Mafia mobs, menaces and extortion to silence or achieve their political goals must be prosecuted and punished by fines, suspensions and jail. This Media Matters need to lose the tax exemption condition. They behave as a fascist organization and that need to be dismantled. The same for the circus fabricated around this dead kid. Those charlatans agitators need to be stopped.
Report Post »TROONORTH
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:28pmHOO-RAH FOR THIS BRAVE AMERICAN. He has grit. TRUE GRIT! So fill your hands media matters!
Report Post »Rowgue
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:30pmThat‘s why these aren’t really boycotts. A real boycott happens naturally as former customers turn away from your company and take their business elsewhere.
These fake boycotts are not people simply taking their business elsewhere. The people “boycotting” were never even consumers of their products. They are political activists that never had and were never going to be customers. They‘ll never come to the actual business or his house because then they’d have to reveal that it’s just a dozen schmucks mass emailing from phony email addresses.
A real boycott doesn’t need people to make threats or flood email boxes and phone lines. The actual loss of sales speaks louder than any threat.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:39pmWell to the degree what this guy said is true, I and most Americans reject those tactics. That is horrible and offensive.
But I doubt whatever emails this guy has gotten or any worse than those threats or otherwise objectionable emails received by Francis Piven or Sandra Fluke or anyone else. There are fringe people from all parts of the political spectrum who do this kind of thing and they are cheered on by “certain” websites. That’s the world we live in. It’s not good and I hate it. The internet is great, but there are bad things too and I hate them, but can’t change them.
But let’s face facts. there are probably 100 companies who have requested that their commercials not be aired on Limbaugh’s show, just as they did with Beck’s show. Companies don’t want their commercials on programs that offend their target audience. Really folks, it’s pretty simple. Companies don’t advertise on shows that offend the people they are trying to sell products to.
Face it, AOL, IBM, Exxon, Visa, and so on didn’t drop Rush because they got emails from angry people. Nope! They are big boys. They just don’t want their brand associated with Rush.
Sorry folks. You can keep up your imaginary ideas, but when people like Rush are so offensive that companies don’t want to be associated with them, well, they eliminate the association. Ya gotta love the free market. This is America folks, not a communist country.
Report Post »TexOkie
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:30pmlillymckim,
Good post, but I think you should know the saying goes “Toeing the Line”. I used to make that mistake also.
Report Post »ruoncrack
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:35pmWhat about the protesters freedom of speach? Boycotting is no different from marketing. If you can get others to take up your cause, good for you. When the pro-life folks terrorize doctors and pro-choise institutions ou don‘t seem to have issue but when people react to things you don’t like you seem to have a different opinion. What’s up with that?
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 11:24pmBeing boycotted by leftist rarely hurts your business, leftist don‘t work so what little they have to spend comes from their food stamps so unless you’re a grocery store in the projects you have little to lose from a leftist boycott and no reason to bend to their demands. On the other hand if you bend to leftist threats and anger the hard working tax paying right you risk being boycotted by the people who earn and spend….ask Susan B. Komen and Carbonite how that worked out for them.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 11:27pmJZS
Those first two paragraphs maybe the most accurate thing I have seen you post. The third was good but lacked in comparison. However, you missed one thing.
You said, “…didn’t drop Rush because they got emails from angry people. Nope…”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but advertisers dropped Rush after exaggerated liberal pressure. I mean, if what your saying is true, you could post a link right? Tell us who is claiming Rush is losing advertisers for reasons other than Liberal pressure and exaggerations.
You have denied liberals are out to silence the free speech of those they cannot compete with. You also claimed there is no boycott attempt but that is just not true.
Let me preface my next post with this. You can cherry pick quotes from websites to make your point. In no way am I trying to make a blanket statement with my next post. My only point is to show you there is a concerted effort by SOME on the left to silence the voices of those with whom they can’t compete with or those holding different political views.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 11:29pmJZS
This is the only website I went to concerning this topic. These are a few quotes. So please do not continue to deny the liberal effort to remove or silence the speech of people who they disagree with. If you want to debate they number or effectiveness of like minded individuals who hold the same views as those below, fine. But from here on out, please be honest and call it what it is. Also, please drop “the free market at work” pitch. It is just not true.
“Go to the website of the local radio station that airs Rush Limbaugh and go to his “page”. See what banner ads appear there and contact them to tell them to drop their advertising”
“Yes I did that! And to think of what they wrote under his introduction!! Makes me want to throw up ALL that I’ve eaten for the past year! Smh!”
“Excellent! We’re keeping the pressure on. Rush’s days are number…Tell us which ones have NOT dropped him, so that we can up the pressure.”
“I didn’t realize Netflix was an advertiser. They are a HUGE target. The impact of a boycott could cripple them”
“You see…liberals can do something if we put our minds to it…”
“What are the names of the remaining advertisers?”
“I think he’s starting to realize that there are some things you just can’t say…That there are people who WILL slap you down.”
All quotes from http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/06/438585/five-more-advertisers-drop-rush-limbaugh-bringing-total-to-20/?mobile=n
Report Post »jzs
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 12:08amHey Speck. Honestly, did your read my post? We’re both argumentative types but seriously, you expect me to post a link where companies explain why the dropped Rush Limbaugh, as though companies routinely explain and justify why they drop programs? Are you serious? A company is going to issue statements about why the dropped Limbaugh’s program? Well, okay, a few have, and you know that. Here’s the link: http://pinterest.com/thinkprogress/companies-no-longer-advertising-on-rush-limbaugh/ Some give their reasons, most simply have dropped the show.
Speck, no doubt “liberal” groups (“liberal” meaning in this context someone who was offended by Limbaugh’s remarks, which includes most women) have contacted Limbaugh’s advertisers and expressed their offense at his remarks. So, when people say they are offended by Limbaugh that’s “exaggerated liberal pressure?” People don’t have a right to contact advertisers? Limbaugh can say whatever he wants to millions of people but individuals don’t have a right to object? If you wouldn’t suppress their First Amendment rights, then exactly who do you suggest they express their disagreement to?
Reread my post. This is an issue of the free market and freedom of speech. Speck, it’s really simple. Corporations don’t want to advertise on shows that offend their customers. IBM and AOL (and other international companies) haven’t been brought to their knees by MMA. They just want to make money. I love this coun
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 12:49amJZS
“you expect me to post a link where companies explain why the dropped Rush”
No, I didn’t expect you to post a link showing advertisers suspending advertising (losing money) before the manufactured outrage occurred because that link doesn’t exist.
You said, “Limbaugh can say whatever he wants to millions of people but individuals don’t have a right to object”
Never said that. If I receive bad service at a restaurant and choose not to patronize that place of business that is fine. There is also nothing stopping me from calling them up and claiming to own 200 businesses country wide, all of which will stop patronizing their place of business unless they do x, y, and z.
Here is what you are missing.If I bolster the alleged amount of business I do with a company I could probably cause a shift somewhere along the line. That might work in the short term but will fail down the road because it is manufactured outrage. Rush will not be damaged long term by this because of that reason.
However, if a significant amount of people supported removing voices of opposition, he would already be gone. So we can go back and forth, but at the end of the day as with other issues, not enough people believe in what the liberals are pushing to make a long term difference.
Look at the link you provided for goodness sakes, its telling. How many companies do you think the posters Kathy Otsman-Magnusan and Darlene Fields have actually done business with?
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 1:28amEverything that is happening in this country at this time is because of Obama. All these thugs are taking their cue from the White House. All of them. Obama is a hustler, just like Al Sharpen and Jesse Jackson.
Did these guys not also run for president? Obama was just a better liar. He has no class and no American values. Just because he became president does not mean he IS presidential.
What is happening is exactly what community organizers do. This man is a shame and a black mark on this country. No pun intended. If he were a white man, which one half of him is, I would say the exact same thing.
As a matter of fact it is a sorry state, that one has to even give an explanation for why or what is being said.
There is no sensitivity. It is all about control. Political correctness is nothing but speech control.
Please God, do not let this man be re-elected.
Report Post »dutchy
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 3:51amAmazing guy, doesn’t take the crap from these thugs!! We all support you and others like you. God will bless you when you do the right thing. God bless him!
Report Post »hogtrashhd
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 10:43amthese things aren’t hissyfitting over the company or Rush.. they just love to feel the hate…. and most people get over it and move on.. except for blacks who seem to not be able to dig themselves out of this hatefulness , well hell.. look at what they call leaders.. these “leaders” are and have for years lead the blacks down the primrose path and they just can’t figure it out.. fool me once shame on you… fool me twice shame on me..
Report Post »Flag-Man
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:49pmWhere is the SS, FBI, DOJ, DA, DHS, Sheriff or the Police
Report Post »Anamah
Posted on May 10, 2012 at 3:02amThis is the mafia behavior to hurt others. What an uncivilized and dishonest practices, commonly used by Media Matters and Democrats who like to divide bully and isolate… as Allinsky rules say but it seems they are going to have a big surprise…All this fascist should go to jail and our society must reject that kind of abusive tactics.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:54pm“possibly even including death threats.” He’s not sure? lol
Report Post »Mapache
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:14pmthreats can be made such as “you better watch your back,” ; “better maintain the brakes on your car” “be careful where you go after dark” that can be veiled threats. My favorite is “If I every see you again, nobody will ever see you again.”
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:37pm“your people are in trouble”. “Mark you’re in danger”. Not life threatening enough for you champ?
Report Post »helena
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:52pmWOW, I am impressed. Someone is finally coming out against these bullies. It is about time. Why should the country have to bend over backwards for a group of people we don’t agree with.
Other advertisers should follow suit. GOOD JOB AND WELL DONE. Keep it up!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:48pmWhatever Rush’s sponsors are selling, I will go out of my way to purchase extra…… And Sandra can go Fluke herself !
Report Post »starchaser75
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:24pmI have decided to support all of Rush’s sponsers with my dollars and by calling them and telling them that i am glad they are not giving in to these terrorists.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 5:49amLOL This is hilarious.
What a great new term.
Fluke yourself.
Well I guess she asked for it. You step into the public arena, you better be able to handle the reactions.
Report Post »robert
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:48pmThere is no way these people can be neutralized without having a civil war.
They’re homosexuals, and other flakes oddballs and misfits who want a society that looks like the space bar patrons in the old Star Wars movie.
Because they’re deranged only intensifies their efforts.
Report Post »Masterjanitor
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 12:54amDido!!!!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:43pmASK YOURSELVES: What do 2 year old kids do when they are told “NO” ? They pitch a hissy fit, they stomp their feet, they threaten everything. These Liberals have the mental maturity of a 2 year old. They have been promised all sorts of things from the character-corrupt Liberals led by the most dangerous President (plotting with Ruskies under our nose) ever to hold office. He thinks he can pull it off. I’m praying that there are enough of us who are ADULTS. ENOUGH who will stand up for AMERICA, enough to SAVE AMERICA.
Report Post »Turtleman
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:36pmLove your comment Patty Henry We have to stand up and be the adults!
Report Post »ProObamaAgenda
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:38pmi have no comment about the story except i dont agree 100%….im here to actually compliment Glen Beck..even though i dont agree with anything he say I LOVE the fact that Glen allows liberals to come here and debate unrestricted…hes a free speech champion…thats why i dont mind listening to him on radio or coming to this site…i take great exception to many things i read here BUT i like that opinions are freely expressed…that what america is all about..i do agree with conservatives on that point…so CARRY ON GLEN BECK DO WHAT YOU DO…i wish you were a liberal sometimes because youre the absoulute BEST at making a point…Maddow even agrees with that…now MEDIAITE is a different story…unlike you Glen, Dan Abrams sucks and doesnt allow liberals to debate points…as if hes afraid…this name i carry got me banned there…keep going Glen…good luck to ya and see ya in November at the polls
Report Post »luckyme
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:29pmwow! I am glad to see there is one reasonable Liberal! good for you! are you sure you are a liberal?
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:50pmIf you want to continue to stay and voice that Liberal opinion, at least spell his name correctly, it is Glenn – two N’s. LOL
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:53pmWe will forgive your flaws ProObama. Most Liberals are afraid to debate the issues. They would rather call us names, insult our momma’s or our intelligence. Sometimes we return in kind. Sure you are Liberal?
Report Post »ruoncrack
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 10:45pmActually, that’s not true. I would estimate that about 30% of comments get through the censors here. If you make clear statements againsts some of the inane comments with 100% acceptable language there is a very good chance the comment won’t last 15 minutes. But hey, most of the audience is incapable of dealing with the modern world of pluralistic views and perfer to live in their imaginary world.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:35pmIt’s all about freedom.
Another whining conservative that wants the freedom not to have to face the responsibilities of his actions.
Report Post »drago
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:43pm@marybethencinom.
Report Post »Does media matters pay you that much, that you spend every waking hour on here posting under well over a dozen screen names?Moron….
scuba13
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:43pmYou really are a lunatic.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:51pmYup. You’ll notice whenever repubes are frustrated they automatically devolve into hate speech against their adversaries. Hence Obama=communism, destroy America, muslim, gay, etc…Here free speech=terrorism.
Report Post »Belchfire V-8
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:29pmActually, Liberals do the most name calling. As to Muslims, I have been to a number of Muslim countries with the military. We were told to not even take pocket Bibles, as this would upset our “Allies”. If you love them so much, MOVE THERE, and try to do your liberal whining there. They have unique punishments for any one that disagrees with their fair and tolerant religion of peace.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:36pmNot sure if you noticed MARYELIZABETH…but Mark Stevens didn’t do any “actions” to have any “responsibilities” for. Idiot.
Report Post »You stupid lefties just say “stuff” don’t you? No seriously MARYELIZABETH..what has Stevens got to be “responsible” for sweetie? Or should he be intimidated into submission by lefties just because you have a vendetta against Limbaugh?
AvengerK
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:42pmNot sure if noticed EXREPUTABLE…but Obama just caught got on a hot mic assuring Medvedev he’d cooperate with the Russians on missle defense if he gets re-elected because he won’t be accountable to the electorate at that point. If that’s not a matter of national concern, a reason to question his aliegance to the U.S. and the acquiescing of American security to the Russians champ….you tell me what is. Or should we just do your routine..put our fingers in our ears and cry “la la la I can’t hear you”?
Report Post »Forward
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:42pmIn what way are threats other than, “I won’t shop from the advertisers you represent” okay. If people are indeed berating and threatening people because they work at a marketing firm that places ads on Limbaugh’s show that is vile. Boycott the advertisers, fine. Attack the employees personally, not fine.
Quite frankly, any attempt to claim the moral high ground in this conversation by liberals has now been lost by these anonymous callers suggesting that they will do something other than shop elsewhere. “Advertise on Rush’s show? He called Sandra Fluke a nasty name. Now we crush your business and threaten your well being and your family.” In what possible mind set is that anything other than way over the top?
Liberals, I would strongly suggest that you come forward and call this out for something that is not in keeping with your tolerant ideas. Many conservatives have come out strongly against Limbaugh for both the actual language he used and the harm he caused to conservative causes through his indiscipline. To keep pace, liberals need to do the same with their lunatic fringe. Unfortunately, this rarely happens.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:43pmAvengerk I guess you are right
I turn on the tv or radio and the commercials are already there. It must be automatic. There couldn’t be any actions or decision making involved in the commercials being there.
Report Post »oregon scott
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:45pmExrepublisheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:51pm
Yup. You’ll notice whenever repubes are frustrated they automatically devolve into hate speech against their adversaries. Hence Obama=communism, destroy America, muslim, gay, etc…Here free speech=terrorism.**************************
Report Post »See I know you are not being honest. There is no way you ever could of been a republican if you think Facts are hate speech. He is a Muslim, he wants to destroy America, he wants this country to become Communist more then any thing, I have never heard any one call him Gay, so can’t speak on that issue. He is the worst thing this country has ever seen in that office. I saw some where today that he ended the Iraq war, (had to laugh) he stayed with the President Bush’s plan the entire way including when to bring the troops home. The difference is Bush did not make the announcement to our enemy each week so they could know when to it was going to happen.This man is a joke. Watch the NBLA very closely as we get near the election. Please.!!!
COFemale
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:58pmSince when is it freedom to send threatening emails to someone MaryBethEliz (aka serial killer name). It is okay if you want to boycott a Conservative talk show or radio advertiser, that is your right, we are not against that. Although, we think you are dumb for doing it. You do cross that line when you threaten bodily harm. Also, notice it is the lefty’s that threaten violence, why is that MBE or Encinom.
When I boycott a company, they never know, until they send me a notice, saying you haven’t used your credit card in five years, if we do not hear from you, we are going to deactivate your account. What you didn’t get the clue after the 1st year?
Report Post »Masterjanitor
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 1:06amWhat else would a Dumbacrap say??
Report Post »wolverine
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 2:02pmI am a conservative and I will face these mobs if they want to come to my house but I also reserve the right to invite a few friends of mine to join the party and we will see who is afraid
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:28pmRush should hire Blackwater to take out the people behind these terrorist actions.
marybethelizabeth
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:38pmIs Media Matters paying you to post violent comments to discredit the website?
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:11pmOh that is funny coming from you MaryBethEliz.. He is getting paid just like you are. In fact, I’d bet you are sitting in cubies next to each other to see who can say the most vile and outrageous statement.
Report Post »Both of you are a joke.
9635kari
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:24pmAm I reading this right? Someone has some balls to stand up and take on these cowards. They are the minority and they sit behind their computers and send out threatening emails. Why are the police not called in on this? This absolutely is terrorism. We are in a civil war between the ideologies. The majority of us do not act out like this. Why are there so few men who stand up to these bastards?
Report Post »football lady
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:39pmabsolutely
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:57pm@9635kari. Didn‘t you just do what you’re complaininmg about?
Report Post »michael48
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:43pmsheep…lemming chow and kool-aide in grannies basement…clean your paws…
Report Post »Mojoron
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:23pmWhat does his company sell? I buy a case.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:35pmMe too! As I have with other Rush advertisers ..
and btw Two if by Tea .. especially Blueberry is the BEST Tea!
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:43pmMaybe he sells American Flag avatars to replace the one you have. But you can get one for free I’m sure. Disgusting and disrespectful avatar no matter your politics…
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:22pm““Let them come,” Stevens said. “Something is going on here that has to be addressed because the country’s at risk. If I can’t advertise where I want to advertise, my business, because of a small group of people who – you can tell, because the vast majority of the emails are in support of us, Rush, the constitution, the American way – a small portion of people, that I call the hissyfitters, who are like children. When my kids were little, they used to go on a screaming fit, and they lay down on the floor and slapped their hands on the floor. My wife and I had a choice, whether to give them an ice cream cone or make them go to their room. Too much of what‘s going on in America right now is we’re giving these hissyfitters an ice cream cone. We have to stop it, and I’m not afraid, and bring on the buses.”’
Report Post »Notice how the “hissyfitters” are always only those protesting things which you AGREE with–they’re “patriots” when they are protesting something you find detestable.
momrules
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:25pmBoo Hoo back atcha………
Report Post »Selfreliance
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:27pmIf you are going to post repeatedly, I do with you would at least make sense. It’s obvious that “protesting” and “boycotting” (especially when the latter describes a contact campaign on a radio show’s advertisers, much less threats to same) are not synonymous. In the same vein, all “protests” are not equal. Consider, for example, the difference between Tea Party “patriots” protesting overgrown and intrusive government by peacefully assembling in a public space, lawfully behaving while there, and picking up after themselves before leaving. Compare this with another “protest,” OWS… where they illegally camp, defecate on everything in sight, destroy public property, and threaten police.
Personally, I prefer the term “chickenshit” to describe people who cannot engage in public discourse but instead work underhandedly to silence voices that do not agree with them. That, sir, is the domain of the left in this country. If you agree with it, simply own up to that and show your true colors.
Report Post »xCalix
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:55pmoh look ^ another cry baby liberal.
Report Post »Lt_Scrounge
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 9:40pmThat’s because the people throwing hissy fits are the liberals. Conservatives aren’t the ones out there pouring buckets of urine and feces in the lobbies of banks, or taking union provided buses to the homes of business executives and then trespassing and scaring their children. That’s all libs there.
BTW good thing they didn’t try that at my house when I was 14. A few of them would’ve found themselves staring down the barrel of a loaded rifle. Or worse, my granddad coming out of his house next door with his shotgun.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:20pm““They’ve called my people and my company, they’ve called the women at my company, and told them they’re women haters, the most horrible terms,” Stevens said. “They’ve told me — these are tens of thousands of emails, by the way, most of them are positive but the small group — they’ve told us that we’re under surveillance. The email subject line says ‘citizen of the internet,’ ‘police of the Internet,’ ‘Mark, you’re in danger,’ ‘your house is going to be surrounded by buses,’ ‘your business is going to be destroyed,’ ‘your people are in trouble.’ This is terrorism. Why don’t we start calling it what it is?”
Limbaugh himself recently lent support to Stevens on his show, fingering the group Media Matters as the one responsible for the “boycott” on his show, which has spilt over onto Stevens’ business.”
Report Post »Well, if you didn’t want people to stop buying your products, maybe you shouldn’t have advertised with an incendiary fascist.
notasheep
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:58pmIt is not that he cares if people buy from him it is the abusive and threatening messages he is getting. Boycotts are fine. Telling people they are going to die is totally not fine.
Report Post »Forward
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:49pm@Third
No one is complaining about the boycott. Did you even look at the article. People at the marketing firm, which has indeed publicly stated that they disagree with Rush’s language, are being threatened! A purchase decision is fine and advertisers may indeed decide not to advertise because they believe it will result in fewer sales. I don’t think that anyone on this thread will disagree with that. But threaten the well being of the employees and family of marketing firms because they place advertising on a show, that is truly beyond the pale.
What if conservatives decided to threaten the employees of HBO until they defunded Bill Mahre? To keep the moral high ground, here’s a hint: Disavow the lunatics who are threatening these people. The longer it goes without such a disavowal the more it seems you agree that such threats are reasonable. If you think so, that is much worse than calling Sandra Fluke any names you can think of.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:36pmYeah–accept EVERY TIME this happens, there will ALWAYS be idiots to make stupid threats, most of which won’t be followed up on. Are they wrong for doing so? Yes. Is (stupidity) solely a problem of one political ideology? No–it can happen to anyone who isn’t vigilant.
I trust the police to be competent enough still, to at least sift out which threats are credible and investigate them, and I also have faith in the ability of Limbaugh et al. to ignore pressure from people to change when these people obviously never liked them (nor really made this a secret, and Limbaugh and co. have somehow survived all these OTHER years, when I’m assuming stupid people where threatening them with violence semi-regularly as well).
My point is that this is a non-story; a boycott against a political opponent is non-unique and common. It happens all the time, all political ideologies do it. Moreover, threats of violence are also non-unique, and unfortunately likely will always be present in some distasteful proportion of ANY political subgroup. Some on the Right will be idiots and call in death threats on abortion doctors, or legislators who vote for gun control laws, or vote against public religious displays, etc. and some of the Left will be idiots and threaten violence against laws they perceive as environmentally too destructive, politicians who pass laws curtailing the rights of labor unions, etc.–some proportion of people will likely always make poorer decisions.
Report Post »garak99
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:11pmA Boycott is a proper way to handle a protest of a offensive on air personality
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:26pmYup–it’s NORMALLY conservatives who are ALL ABOUT boycotting economic firms they disagree with; hell, isn’t that their catch-all response to ANY criticism one EVER has about capitalism? “Oh, you don‘t like company x’s policy of doing y? Well then just don’t shop there, jeez–use your ‘dollars’ to vote in the ‘democracy’ of the marketplace.” In fact, I seem to recall a rather strong call to boycott Lowe’s not too long ago in fact over THEIR advertising on a little show called “All-American Muslim,” so was that economic terrorism too? Or are you all just a bunch of big hypocrites who can’t keep your facts straight?
rationallyurs
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:40pmI can assure you we won’t be boycotting on election day as we get rid of the hood-in-chief
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:45pmYou two remind me of the “occupiers”. They take up residence in a public park, defecate all over the place, trash the entire property and prevent the PUBLIC from using it. Then they say “We’re just protesting/”.
Report Post »Forward
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:55pmIt is NOT the boycott, it is the personal threats. I can‘t believe that you don’t understand that. Maybe in your world a boycott is synonomous with threatened beatings of individuals and their families. That isn’t the case in my world.
When I boycott something, I just don’t buy it. I may eventually cause a company to fail but in general I am only exercising my right to buy or not buy a product (well it may be my right, we’ll have to see what the Supreme Court says about Obamacare), when I threaten someone else’s life and/or well being I have gone well beyond a right and am now intruding on their rights.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:46pmIt‘s not that I didn’t READ about that intimidation, it‘s just that I don’t care or sympathize with Limbaugh and co.’s self-indulgent griping about what happens ALL THE TIME to people on BOTH SIDES. It’s in poor taste to intend to intimidate someone, and depending upon what you say it can also be illegal. Nevertheless, some people will probably ALWAYS allow their tempers to get the best of them, and make a poor decision to do so–the overwhelming majority never have any intention or take any action, to follow through with their threats. And realistically, even if we could arrest and punish all of them, to do so for EVERY OFFENSE probably wouldn’t be socially desirable. It’s not tasteful, it shouldn’t be encouraged or taken lightly, but the rude fact of the matter is that it ALWAYS happens, ALL ideologies will have SOME members whose judgment lapses and they attempt to intimidate others. It is wrong, but let us not pretend that it is uncommon, or one-sided. So it’s not really a “boo-hoo feel sorry for me” problem that only Limbaugh and Co. have, and in fact since they’ve PROBABLY been dealing with semi-regular death threats hitherto (seeing as how Limbaugh as a rather unpleasant person), there’s really no reason Limbaugh should be an exceptionally sympathetic “victim” figure. Yes, we should condemn political intimidation from ANYONE–no, Limbaugh is not a martyr of political intimidation.
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Posted on March 27, 2012 at 8:27am@Third
To be clear, any of this type of intimidation accompanying a boycott is wrong. Plainly, clearly and indubitably wrong. I don’t care about the politics, religion, race, ethnicity, religion, gender or sexual orientation of the “victim”, I care about the idea that in this age of super-heated rhetoric ANY violent words or actions are taken as something that “happens all the time”.
I thought we were supposed to be cooling down the public discourse. In what way is threatening a marketing firm’s employees and their families cooling down? I can and do decry conservatives who are over the top, many of whom have responded on this topic. I expect any reasonable individual to do so regardless of whether they agree with the ultimate aim of a statement or not.
To avoid doing so merely makes one a hypocrite, which is the point of the article in the long run.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:09pmThe people who threaten his business should be dealt with as economic terrorists.
Report Post »dannyo
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:04pmliberalism is a mental disorder which attacks feeble-minded insecure bigoted indoctinated democrats who don’t believe in themselves and/or get an ego boost from their feelings of superiority over those less “fortunate” and/or those poor folks on the permanent democrat plantation (see: any inner city and outlying area near you)….
Report Post »soisay
Posted on March 27, 2012 at 9:29pmI though we were supposed to be discussing the article.
Nutjobs sending threatening e-mails, calls, letters, need to be investigated, found, punished whether they are sending them to Limbaugh advertisers, Govt agencies, elected reps, Air America/Maddow advertisers, or just ordinary people. Everybody here agrees that the outlying 1% or .1% or .01% (on both sides) needs to be addressed.
But we need to accept people of all opinions if we don’t want our site to become a choir or football cheering section where everybody just shouts the same thing. The whole point is to bring different ideas and find the parts where we agree and disagree. I remember that in one city the TEA and OWS people met CIVILLY and found they agreed almost half the time. THAT is progress,
Not a paragraph of calling people mentally ill, bigoted, indoctrinated, ego centric without even saying one word about the article. If you feel very strongly that way, then you cant help the conversation, and your words can only bring out the worst in the rest of us.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:56pmI heard Rush talking about this on his show this morning. Stevens is right. This is terrorism and I agree Media Matters is the culprit behind it. Disagree with the agenda the left has and you automatically become a target just like the school kids in Wisconsin became targets of the unions for daring to voice a different opinion from theirs.
Mark Stevens is another American hero in my opinion.
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:22pmBoo hoo
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Report Post »Forward
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 7:00pm@ Third
So I gather you are all for threatening physical harm to individuals because they disagree with you? This is the general argument of the radical left. “Agree with me or I will beat you until you do.” Is it any wonder that a free thinking population will ultimately reject liberal arguments, when their most vocal proponents have this “technique” or getting their point across?
Report Post »The Third Archon
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 8:53pm“Is it any wonder that a free thinking population will ultimately reject liberal arguments”
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one–that is, of course, why the history of politics, in western civilization at least, has trended towards “more liberal,” rather than less, over time (in both the classical and contemporary senses).
That’s also why, of course, gay marriage has gotten LESS AND LESS politically popular, as time has gone on, and why WHEN WE WERE FOUNDED anyone who is over 18 and legal non-felonious citizen of the United States could vote in federal and state elections, but NOW, of course, only 21 year old white men who own at least 10 acres of land who can vote…
Yup, conservatism tends to win in the end all right–we DEFINITELY get less liberal over time.
Report Post »kyrealtor
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:56pmGlenn Beck correctly does not call for a boycott of other “journalists.” I am not a journalist. I am part of the #1 minority targeted by left-wing boycotts. I think my people will be subject to severe pograms or even another holocaust if the Jew-haters are not stopped. Teach the anti-Israel and anti-conservative boycott leaders a lesson: they started the boycott war, not us. We cannot have a Republic unless we make most news fair and balanced. It is time to boycott left-wing extreme biased “news” sources such as MSNBC and the New York Times. The left has allied themselves with radical Muslims who are killing thousands of innocent civilians and thousands of American soldiers. It is time to start boycotts against news organizations that support our enemies, and against their advertisers. The left has endorsed boycotts as a valid tactic. It is time for centrists and conservatives to boycott the leftists, who are in fact 20% of the American population. The 80% centrist and conservative Americans can bankrupt any company that supports OWS, radical militant Islamists, and any company that has boycotted centrist Fox News or conservative Rush Limbaugh. It’s time for the 80% to put the 20% out of business.
Report Post »SageInWaiting
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:09pmIt’s hard to boycott companies and organizations that produce products that you find loathsome and ALREADY do not consume. By providing clips of MSNBC and CNN (et al) programming, TheBlaze is multiplying their “viewership” many times over. …and as far as their advertisers, I haven’t a clue who they are; let’s just leave it that way, thank you.
Report Post »kyrealtor
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 6:13pmSometimes, boycotts don’t work. Sometimes they do. In the case of BMW, just 100 few car sales would make a noticeable difference in quarterly results, and buyers of Mercedes and Volvo would likely stick with their new brand for life. BMW dropped their anti-Israel pro-Palestine stance in face of the real likelihood of significant lost sales. MSNBC is unfortunately a tale of two networks in one: the reporters with a brain get to report financial news during the daytime hours. I am open to suggestion of the #1 anti-Israel, anti-Conservative, anti-Republican company where a boycott could make a difference.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:55pmThey call it ‘Community Organizing’… I call it the Gangster Protection Insurance racket! Al Capone meet Barry Obama… Frank Nitti meet Van Jones…
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:00pmI’m a (yo) Italian from (yo) NJ that drives a (yo…sup?) Lincoln town car… nuff’ said?
Report Post »TRONRADIO
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:55pmThese libs are approaching critical mass; we will beat the lying left, I feel assured.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:53pmI always like to follow up a “left” with a good “right”!!!
Report Post »hi
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:51pmI love it that we are fighting back the insane libs.
Report Post »smokeyridgerunner
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:02pmI just don’t understand why would someone want to fire bomb Media Matters
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:51pmWe have got to stop this community organizing intimidation that Media Matters has been doing… They are following ACORN’s playbook.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:48pmAccording to our Justice Department, Liberal extortion is legal. enough said. If you don’t like it, elect a new President.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 4:45pmOne fine American…
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