Limbaugh Blasts Bachmann for HPV Vaccination Criticism: She ‘Jumped the Shark’
- Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:21pm by
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Tuesday morning, our own Meredith Jessup posted a clip of Michele Bachmann retelling a supporter‘s story alleging that the HPV vaccination Gardasil caused mental retardation in the supporter’s daughter. The criticism came after Monday’s GOP debate and as a result of TX Gov. Rick Perry’s order mandating the drug for young girls. Here’s the clip:
The claim is suspect, and others have started to pick up on it. Among the detractors are none other than Rush Limbaugh. During his radio show Tuesday, he blasted Bachmann and accused her of “jumping the shark.“ He even went as far as to use the word ”shame” to describe her claims. The Daily Caller has part of his thoughts:
“There was an opt-out,” Limbaugh explained. “If anybody didn’t want to take it they didn’t have to… So next time I’m going to have to issue another warning. Next time – not only don’t bother with this Social Security ‘Ponzi scheme’ stuff, but forget this vaccine business. This is ending up being a giant distraction. Now I said that [Michele] Bachmann may have jumped the shark. It’s just a gut a feeling.”
“Alright, now she had scored the points in the debate,” he added. “But now this comment has become a news item for Bachmann today, rather than what she said at the debate last night. That’s what I mean by ‘jumping the shark.’ She scored the points and should have left it there.”
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PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:22pmBachman should have gone after Rick Perry on his Muslim problem
Rick Perry Muslim Problem Forcing Sharia/Muslim studies in the classrooms
Report Post »http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/perrys_problematic_pals.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/all-traces-of-perryaga-khan-curriculum-removed-from-web.html
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:26pmBachman could have picked any one of the Perry problems below
14 Reasons Why Rick Perry is NOT a Conservative and Why he would be a BAD President
Report Post »http://www.infowars.com/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president-2/
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:29pmBachman didn’t get a chance to rip into Perry about his anti-border policy. I think Romney got the most time on that.
Perry Repeats Opposition to US-Mexico Border Fence
Report Post »http://www.theblaze.com/stories/perry-repeats-opposition-to-us-mexico-border-fence/
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:43pmBachman got him on just ONE PART of his crony capitalism – the HPV vaccination businessman giving Perry $5000 and Perry makes an executive order forcing girls to get that vaccine.
BUT Perry’s crony capitalism goes into more than just that situation. Bachaman should bring up some of one Perry did in this article from the Wall Street journal.
Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem
Report Post »http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576428262897285614.html
rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44pm@PoliticalJunkieToo
A little bit of a stretch there, on the porn accusation. Movie gallery renst all sort of movies, it is not a “porn” only company.
One might invest in circle K gas stations, circle K gas stations may sell porn mags……
If you apply this same logic across the board, you may be able to find fault with all manner of investors in all manners of business
Report Post »godhead
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:08pmRangerP:
How may times have I heard Obama admit a mistake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cpv1_XT4jI
Just Google “Obama admits mistake” and you’ll see just how uninformed, unfair, and disingenuous your statement is.
No need to thank me. It’s my pleasure.
Next!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:55pm@godhead
No need to worry about a thanks, as there is no need for one.
this little clip may seem clever to you, but I am far from impressed. The lib leaning creator got to pick and choose out of hundreds of hours of interviews. You could do the same, and have Obama looking like a fool. Notice that most of the times in the little clip, you never get to see what Obama is admitting as a mistake. Was Obama care a mistake? Most Americans think so. Was 20 years in the congregation of Rev Wright a mistake? The man was anti-American, anti Jewish, pro black liberation theology. Was declaring his run for the senate seat in the house of a known terrorist a mistake?
If you want to debate with me, you might have to dig a little deeper that youtube clips. Start with the Bible, jump to the constitution, and work your way from there.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:56pmGHead…
Report Post »There’s a difference between giving lip service to yourself and attempting to make yourself look humbled , and being honest. Obamas about as honest as Benedict Arnold.
Any means to an end is what his communist ideology trained him for. Don‘t think he’s not using all his leftist education to twist even an apology into a political point..
rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:03pm@TURDHEAD
He smart guy, you seem to like the youtube clips. I am not a big fan, but figured I would post one for you. Try to figure out if there should be any obama apologies here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfu1_Scgyow&feature=related
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:07pmRick Perry is capitalizing on jobs for one because he is housing illegals in prisons and dunning the Feds for it..hence our tax dollars. at work. If we took away all the illegal aliens “benefits” 338.3 billion…denied them driver’s licenses etc. they might go home. Also Rick..what about getting that Supreme Court Decision of the government having legislated legal theft of our Social Security Money .How about you change that? Oh and Rick, that health care where the people have to buy their insurance but are responsible for a bigger portion of the bill..what’s that? And what about those higher taxes? Michelle..I saw on the net where you are for pulling entitlements from illegals..good for you. But as for you wanting to take away social security and medicade. not good. You show no compassion for the American people. No heart. There are people out there suffering excruciating pain and can’t afford $500 a month meds. If there were competition, there would be no $500 meds I can just hear you saying..let them suffer. So far, I haven’t heard anyone I really like. We need someone who has compassion for our people, who will root out enemies from our government, stop these insane wars with total idiots, and set us fiscally right with that drill here and now with no trading or selling our oil to other countries, and someone who will “stand with Israel.” with enough sense to know that…Islam is a worldwide problem and they are here.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:52pmEven Limbaugh gets it wrong from time to time:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/13/what-limbaugh-missed-about-perry-and-gardasil/
godhead
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:51pmRangyP . . . You got caught out stating something that is demonstrably false. It hurts, I know. Nobody likes to look foolish. Here’s how you avoid that in the future. Don’t lie. Pretty simple, really.
that’s the last freebie. The next course correction for your character will cost you. Capiche?
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:05amI am glad you posted this information because your posts confirms things that I have heard about Perry from friends who live in Texas. They send their children to private schools because the public school system is terrible. I do support the tea party platform and I am quite shocked that the Tea Party people are excusing Perry for illegal immigration,big government,crony capitalism and government mandated shots. I wonder if Geroge Soros bought off the Tea Party. On top of all of this I think Perry can not clearly articulate a thoughtful response to debate questions,(with the exception of the death penalty question the other week). Everything with Perry is all swagger and buzz phrases that appeal to the tea partiers . Perry is playing the Tea Party and the tea party leaders had better wake up before they lose their loyal base!
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:11amI agree with Limbaugh 99.6% of the time… But what about an opt-in Mr. Limbaugh?
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:17am@SLR4528 nice try you’re not fooling any one.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 5:12amThe great Rush Limbaugh knows how to talk politics AND make people laugh, and so I listen in regularly. However here I respectfully, yet TOTALLY disagree. Vaccine issues are huge bucks, huge lobby issues. There is NO WAY Perry was not aware of what this meant for Merck. This was not just a little “sorry I won’t do it again” mistake. Even in the PARALLEL UNIVERSE where Perry was unaware of the gold mine this would be for Merck, he showed incredible ignorance of medical issues surrounding this vaccine AND the public awareness of those issues. To anyone who knows the ins and outs of this, Perry’s answers were weak at best.
Rick Perry was the AL GORE of vaccines: “Since the public is unaware that all if their precious 12-year-olds may die this horrible death, I am ordering you to….“ As for the ”opt out” I don’t know how this is dealt with in Texas, but elsewhere the option of NOT being injected with vaccines which are on the official list (for school or whatever) is an option many parents are not even made aware of.
That Limbaugh weighs in on this, fine. But he didn’t just weigh in. He spent a lot of time defending Perry and trying to convince us that this is not really important. Things turned into a kind of damage control ad for Perry. C’mon Rush! We need you for political insight and laughs, not damage control for your favorites.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:42am@TURDHEAD
“How many times have you heard Obama admit to a mistake?”
I stated a question (above). Thus there is no lie, nor is there anything free from you.
there is nothing free from any lib. Libs take what belongs to others (the hard working), and redistributes to the lazy.
Try again, you failed on this one.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:42amwatch out Rush or she will bring up your Hillbilly Heroin addiction
Report Post »and how you served no time for it.
godhead
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:32amRangerPee . . .keep treading water. Its’ fun to watch. While you’re blubbering away, think about how to avoid instilling the same faulty values and lame excuses you exhibit in your kids. Sure would hate to see a fine patriotic family torn asunder by weak moral fiber.
Report Post »brainpimp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:45amThanks for the update from the Ron Paul Cuckoo camp.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 10:46am@TURDHEAD
Now that you realize that you got the electronic smack down, you go back to ignorant unsupported chatter, and strange accusations concerning my family.
Once again, if you want to debate a topic, make a statement, back it up with facts, history, statistics…. and I will answer you, otherwise, you ware wasting time.
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:33pm@Rangerp and Godhead
Report Post »Why do you guys try and defend these politicians? They are all crooked (99%) and there is virtually no reason to suspect that they do anything that isn’t just trying to get them elected. With that being said, Obama is one of the worst as was Bill Clinton and GWB…probably because they had the most power as president. No amount of apologies will cover their a$$es. Ron Paul and a few others are probably the most moral and dutiful civil servants, but for paul, he happens to be a wingnut with fringy followers who believe in wild world governments, and buying silos in montana, and all that other wacky stuff that makes libertarians kick. I prefer the honest to the liar but can’t we agree that they are all megalomaniacs with selfish aspirations. I guess it’s all relative.
rangerp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:43pm@Nlitend1
I posed a question, not a defence of any politician. Never mentioned Bush.
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:49pmeh, i’m tired, just skimmed. Somebody defended somebody I think. sorry if I implicated you.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 7:11pmBachmann was right, as poorly as she said it.. Palin was right, too. As a Texan, I know that Limbaugh is for once wrong in defending Perry’s (very obvious) cronie capitalism traits..
“First, let’s consider this from the point of view of a conservative parent. What Michele Bachmann was implying about “innocent daughters” is very much the point. It isn’t a matter of criminal guilt or innocence, as the bizarre Mark Davis seemed to suggest today, but the matter of a different sort of innocence most conservative parents would like to see preserved in our daughters until adulthood and marriage. What Bachmann was clumsily trying to imply while stating it in gentler terms is that the innocence of these girls was very much on the line. When I heard the announcement of Rick Perry’s intended policy, I went ballistic, and began placing calls to every Texas politician who I could contact. There were many busy phone lines, so I left voice-mails or called back as need be, but the other parents I spoke with were incensed because the implication of Perry’s policy was that our 6th-grade(or older) daughters must be promiscuous, or at least have inattentive parents. After all, HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. For our daughters to be “at risk,” they would first need to be sexually active. The implication of this policy caused many Texas parents to express outrage on this basis alone.”………
http://markamerica.com/2011/09/13/what-limbaugh-missed-about-perr
Report Post »loveliberty83
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:13pmdrug companes make lots of mstake drugs are sold to people for years before they find out people are dyng-they care only about money- was on a drug for years whch i found out was banned n EU finally they took it off the market- it caused heart attacks
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:43amlike Oxycontin ??? what happened to mandatory 5 yr drug sentencing ? Or was that just for
Report Post »Pot ?
Cynic-clinic
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:09pmWhoever is slamming Bachmann misses the point entirely: Ms. Bachmann is standing up to government in their attempt, innocent or otherwise, to dictate and control our lives–a true conservative principal.
Government, and in this case the State, has many avenues to inform and help educate their people on health issues which the medical community feels are important. It is not either the choice or the authority of the State to dictate medical mandates irregardless of the perceived future benefit that may come of their intentions. Communicable diseases and the prevention thereof are a state responsibility but not some personal future benefit that does not directly affect the community. Parents are the authority the state must look to in their righous zeal especially when the state takes no responsibility for any future unintended consequenses.
Report Post »If the State can mandate injections for little girls, can they mandate that we drive Chevy Volts because they’re preventing lung cancer caused by fossil fuels? Think about it.
cripplecreek
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:12pmAgreed. This isn’t about whether the vaccine is dangerous or not. Its about government forcing its will on people and the cronyism involved.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:16pmShe took the argument a bit to far, and I believe it came back to bite her.
Perry admitted that he would not do it the same twice. How many times have you heard Obama admit to a mistake?
try to send a kid to school without a polio, measels, mumps shots, and see what happens. It was a shot, and parents could opt out. It was not Obama care, it was a shot.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:27pmCynic-clinic
Report Post »Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:09pm
Whoever is slamming Bachmann misses the point entirely: Ms. Bachmann is standing up to government in their attempt, innocent or otherwise, to dictate and control our lives–a true conservative principal.
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So Bachmann supports a woman’s right to choose, without hte interference of the government or moral crusaders? I didn’t know Bachmann was pro-choice, I wonder what her church would say.
jakartaman
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:38pmShe is a mother of daughters – good for her.
Report Post »Perry is a RINO – Bachman is a conservative and so is Palin
joe1234
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:00pmhey encicom, what about the BABY’s right to choose?
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:14pmWhen Palin was gov. her state took federal money to expand the accessibility of Gaudisil to girls in her state. (http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/13/sarah-palins-alaska-took-federal-funds-to-increase-access-to-gardasil/) The issue is not the drug, nor is it how mandating vaccines is done, the root question is if you choose to send your child to a tax payer funded gov. school is it the scope of the state to put conditions on it?
Report Post »If you say yes, then no problem, if you say no, then under what manner does the state have the right to say who can and cannot attend their schools? Think illegal immigrant or hoodlum who’s parents are paying property taxes (the main funding for public schools in Texas)? Brings up a lot of issues.
vehoae
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:33pmDitto and Kudo’s to CrippleCreek and Cynic-Clinic!
Lord, come quickly.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:23pm@encinom
Are you really that dumb, and do not see the difference? Take copious notes, and see if we can clear it up for you.
She believes a woman and man (parents) can chose not to have a shot given to their daughter, for a disease that is transmitted via sex. She does not have a problem with public schools requiring shots for communicable diseases such as mumps, polio….
She believes that if you make a decision to have sex, and that sex creates a human being inside of you, you do not have the right to kill that human being. I think we generally agree that life ends when there is no longer a heart beat. I also (and so does Bachmann) believe that there is just as much a definition of life when a baby in the womb has a heart beat. When your choice kills another, it is a bit further than just “woman’s choice”.
Is it that hard to understand? I thought you libs were supposed to be more educated and free thinking than us conservatives.
Report Post »ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:34pmSo it wasn’t conservative to control polio and smallpox the way we did?
Report Post »TXProud
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:51pmThen Ms Bachmann shouldn’t have made it a medical issue. Sometimes less said the better.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:14pmWell said!!!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:36pmThere is no baby in a woman’s womb, just a fetus. A heart does not develop for weeks. Again, the government has no place imposing outdated christian morals on its citizens. Its a woman’s body, its her decision, the government has no place dictating what medical procedures she should or should not have. Likewise the government has no place in defining what is or is not a marriage.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 12:59amHOW BOUT WE ABORT ENCINOM.
ALREADY GOT A PLACE TO THROW HIM IN THE TRASH.
WE GET TO ABOORT HIM FOR FREE.
But he might be amicable to this, leave the white people alone, abort everybody else.
encinom
Report Post »Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:36pm
There is no baby in a woman’s womb, just a fetus. A heart does not develop for weeks. Again, the government has no place imposing outdated christian morals on its citizens. Its a woman’s body, its her decision, the government has no place dictating what medical procedures she should or should not have. Likewise the government has no place in defining what is or is not a marriage.
rangerp
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 6:47am@encinom
calling the destructin of a baby in a woman’s womb murder is never outdated.
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:17pm@Encinom
Report Post »Why do you think the government has no ‘right’ to enforce morals? You call killing an antiquated christian moral, but I’m pretty sure the government has a place enforcing laws against it. The argument that it is christian is silly, life is a universal value. But you do make a good point that a fetus is not a life yet…but even this is arguable.
Anyway, sidenote: Did you know that Democrats used to be anti-abortion and conservatives believed in a woman’s right? Ideologically, it is consistent because Republicans want to limit the powers of government rather than limiting the individual liberties from the citizens. Today it‘s flipped but that’s because the value of life is something considered more important than this liberty to exercise one’s own privacy. Marriage is different but since governments give benefits to those who are married, they have the right to define how those benefits are given and who those benefits go to. Abortion in itself is not a good thing, it may be a better thing than the alternative for that individual, but is objectively bad as a value for society. If you don’t agree with me, think about how the argument is shaped…pro choice, pro life, pro life except in cases of incest or rape. What other debate has a third option that is based on a horrible crime as its exception. I think we all know that abortion is not ideal, and something we should strive to overcome.
PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:09pmWhen I heard her say that during the debates, my first thought was CHILDREN HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF MANDATORY VACCINATIONS to get into public school.
Bachman missed the point entirely. The point was Perry did NOT have the AUTHORITY to bypass his Texas congress which makes Texas law and use his executive powers to force girls to take that HPV shot. Perry apologized for it and said it was a mistake. At least he ADMITTED he made a mistake unlike Romney who still insists it is just fine for a state government to mandate someone buy RomneyCare.
I cannot stand Rick Perry. Romney was the worst candidate choice until Perry showed up. God help us – 2 RINOs are in the lead. Our country has it head up is a&&.
Go Cain, Santorum, Paul, Bachman, Johnson.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:13pmAlso he was “associated” with those selling the drug .. that is a very BIG issue! I agree .. I don’t like executive orders forcing citizens to do anything!
Report Post »PoliticalJunkieToo
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:20pmCATB
Thanks I forgot about that tidbit.
Ah yes the vaccination businessman who gave Perry $5000 in campaign funds. Perry never denied getting the money – only that it wasn’t enough to force him to use his executive pen to force a girl to take that HPV shot. That stinks on a smaller scale than Jeffrey Imalt/Jobs Czar (who paid no taxes and is sending jobs to China sitting next to Obama while Obama complains about fat cat companies not paying taxes and sending jobs overseas but Perry’s cozy relationship with that drug manufacturer still stinks.
Report Post »Canyouhearus
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:53pmAmen to that. Santorun, Backmand and Cain! All great and none seem gto be in bed with any groups… not shown to be yet! Get rid of Obama and instead get his shadow with Romney or Perry! Is it Perry’s stiff collar that has everyone swooning? Google and bit and see what you find!
Report Post »Nauss
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:01pmBachmann and Paul are better conservatives than Perry. It’s a shame they are below Perry in the polls.
Report Post »meddlehead
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:52pmI agree the bigger issue is that Perry used executive orders to funnel thousands of little girls into getting a shot that retails in the $200 ballpark. There is a clear linkage between Perry and the manufacturer of the drug. If the opt out was so easy to obtain, why the executive order? This blatant conflict of interest will be a dragging anchor on his presidential bid as it should be.
Report Post »Gazoiks
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 9:05amTo all you Perry supporters who continue to parrot the line that Perry admits his mistake, and humbly bowed to the legislature when they challenged him, read this article, http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/16/rick-perrys-bad-obama-style-medicine/ Since Day One, President Obama has short-circuited transparency, public debate and congressional oversight. How can Perry effectively challenge the White House’s czar fetish, stealth recess appointments, selective waiver-mania and backdoor legislating through administrative orders when Perry himself employed the very same process as governor?
Report Post »Not only did Perry defend going above the heads of elected state legislators, but his office also falsely claimed the legislature had no right to repeal the executive order. “The order is effective until Perry or a successor changes it, and the Legislature has no authority to repeal it,” Perry spokeswoman Krista Moody told The Washington Post in February 2007.
When both the House and Senate repealed the law six weeks later, Perry did not — as he now claims — listen humbly or “agree with their decision.”
Human shield demagoguery. In response to the legislature’s rebuke, the infuriated governor attacked those who supported repeal as “shameful” spreaders of “misinformation” who were putting “women’s lives” at risk. Borrowing a tried-and-true Alinskyite page from the progressive left, Perry surrounded himself with female cervical cancer victims and deflected critici
Nlitend1
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 2:57pmAll the candidates have huge flaws and I don’t think any of them is capable of reaching everyone under the conservative tent. I would love to see Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or Colin Powell jump in but it seems too late. It‘s too bad R’s couldn’t cooperate for long enough to get a real ticket out there. Every one of these candidates (whether I agree with them or not) is destined to lose.
Report Post »mikenleeds
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:07pmyour so right Michelle , i have two teen-aged daughters and they try to shove that crap down my throat by saying things like i must be a bad parent if i don t give my girls that shot , so i researched it and found many side effects and today i think God i did nt do it ..just because it s government approved don t mean jack **** to me as a parent
Report Post »crookedcreek
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:06pmShe definitely should not have “left it”.
The medical community has known for over 50 years that the human body, less environmental suppression, is nearly immune to bacteria and diseases.
Being that governmental issues, orders, taxation and strange regulations are the chief source of suppression to a population, politicians weird solutions should be called to account for strange solutions, pushed on the population, to benefit the bottom line of an unethical corporation.
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:05pmWe here in Texas lived it. My two granddaughters were forced to endure these 3 injections, which they said were quite painful, in order to remain in school as if it were any other common vaccination. I’m in total agreement with MB on this one.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:15pmnews said it was an opt out program…and the injections are not painful
he presented what the medical community felt was the best..and it was offered as a yes or no..so if your school did not..sue the school for misrepresenting it…
Report Post »shirelover
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:26pmMILS – you quote someone as saying the shot did not hurt, yet the gentleman above stated that his granddaughters said it did…who to believe? The honest truth – if they had not taken the shots, they would have not been allowed at school “pending”… wannt guess how long that would have taken? wanna guess how much they would have missed…not been able to graduate?
I love TX, but am really, really glad I homeschooled my two girls! BTW, one of them scored so well on the Navy entrance exam that the head of schooling from the Pentagon called to find out why! woo hoo, that was a heck of a call – “Hello, this is the Pentagon calling…”
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:36pmDon’t get it guys — I’m a Texan also —- this was NOT passed —- the Senate didn’t approve (too many protests from the people) and Perry didn’t push it after that; not law !!! Plus there was the opt out clause for most schools if it had.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:51pmmy daughters had the shots…the “it didn’t hurt” comes from them….
Report Post »ScienceIsNotEvil
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 10:35pmshirelover
When someone leads with the lie that the shots had to be taken then it makes everything else they say suspect.
Report Post »Bete Noire
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:05pmIn very rare occasions the Gardisil vaccine can trigger Guillain–Barré Syndrome. One of the outcomes of GBS is lesions on the brain stem. This causes significantly reduced concentiousness that may be interpreted as “brain damage” I’m sure the woman who spoke to Bachmann absolutely believed what she was saying about her daughter becoming “mentally retarded”. But Michelle Bachmann should have done additional research before throwing it out there anecdotally on television…just saying…Rush out to shut up and do his homework too.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:11pmI agree .. I think the REAL story was that Perry was associated with the company selling the drug when he signed the executive order .. and I am NOT big on executive orders being forced on CITIZENS. This and Perry’s in state tuition for illegals .. should make people very uneasy with voting for him.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:13pmThe point is it is NOT the governments job to give anyones child a vaccine, this was a big government RINO at work and lets not forget the big pay off the drug company recieved Michelle should have drummed home BIG GOVERNMENT
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:26pmBachmann’s problem is she made the debate about whether Gardisil is a good thing or not. That’s not the question. The real question is who should decide who gets it. Bachmann should have stayed focused on the executive order nonsense. That way she sticks Perry with the stigma of having his trust in govt and mistrust of the people revealed in his actions. Perry’s conservative credentials took a big hit in the debate, but now Bachmann’s common sense (rigor in researching facts, wisdom in picking battles, recognition of scientifically proven public health benefits of vaccines in general) has come into question.
Report Post »Doobin
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:02pmIn Texas, students have to verify every year that all their shots are up to date, or they are not allowed into school. Every year, kids and parents are lined up around the block waiting to get their shots at the last minute. State mandated shots have been the norm for at least 50 years. There is no choice, no opt out, unless you home school.
Report Post »Cynic-clinic
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:54pmThere is a BIG difference between shots required for school students to prevent proven COMMUNICABLE DISEASES and an unproven vaccine mandated by well-meaning school officials who will refuse any liability of their actions or any liability for future unintended consequences. If they won’t put up multi-million dollar bonds, why should parents put the future safety of their children in the hands of people who can walk away from the potential consequences.
Report Post »Doobin
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 9:22amSo the issue is not parental rights or choice, it is the danger associated with the vaccine. If the vaccine was safe, then it would be okay to mandate it?
Report Post »mamabearCali
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 3:11pmSorry, you are incorrect. There is an opt out clause for three reasons medical, religious, and philosophical in TX. That is the law. You do not have to resort to homeschooling just to keep your kids from vaccines you find unacceptable. You do have to fill out some paperwork–ie under which clause you are opting out and in the case of communicable diseases that you understand that your child can be barred from school in case of an out break.
Report Post »Alex
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:59pmI was so annyoyed at Bachman at the debate, she was on my last nerve.
Probably that helped with my reaction today when Palin also got on my last nerve.
Perry was starting to look pretty good to me. Now he looks even better.
Can’t imagine Bachman leading the country (same as to arm chair pundit Palin).
I think Bachman — for the meantime at least — pushed me where she didn’t want us to go — to Perry. I’m in.
DeVain
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:59pmI don’t see the big deal. She said someone came to her after the debate and told her the Vaccine caused retardation in their daughter. Whether there is “scientific” proof is debatable, but the fact the person believes the vaccine responsible is not. Bachmann just repeated something she was told without having the opportunity to look into things. Are things really so bad we are expected to look things up on Google before we repeat things? Seriously…..
Report Post »db321
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:04pmI hear MSNBC is going to offer Bockmann a Show of her own – she makes the women on the View look Conservative.
Report Post »Salamander
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:09pmProbably a Thimerosol freak! The governor made a mistake, he admitted it, he wouldn’t do it again, he meant well, and he listened to his advisors–his biggest mistake and the most valuable lesson of all–question boldly the advice of those nearest you–look at Obama and the Solar guru’s–was that ever bad advice!
Report Post »Big Texan
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:58pmMy daughters were on Perry’s hitlist , my wife and I screamed to every media outlet we could denouncing Gardasil. Rush is extremely flippant on this issue , I guess having no children to lose makes it easy to judge, maybe that’s why Bachman is adament about it.
Republican or Democrat …. Left or Right …… Progressive or Conservative it doesn’t matter …
With today’s media you must pray fervently for discernment , I am conservative but Rush, Beck , Hannity and O‘reilly all have agendas they’re pushing just as hard as those idiots on the left.
Nothings changed since Mark Twain said ” If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed , if you do read the newpaper you are misinformed.”
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:14pmTrue. Rush and Glenn generally are in sync with most of us. When it comes to a phoney birth certificate, Rush is more open-minded than Glenn.
Report Post »I hope everything comes out about ALL the candidates. Maybe we’ll get a halfway decent one, this time.
wisehiney
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:45pmDid you opt out?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:58pmIMO, it was PERRY who jumped the shark, when the Texan pretended to be “taken aback” by the Tea Party crowd, and sniffled… :b-b-but, we’re the party of life. right, guys?”
Report Post »Teleologicus
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:56pmPerry has an awful lot of baggage that is not going to go away. Imposing this vaccination on every girl in Texas was incredible overreach, regardless of good intentions and no matter whether he apologized. It shows very bad judgment and an alarming inclination to statism. It is difficult to imagine a real conservative even thinking of something like this, which smacks of Big Brother. The excuse that there was an opt out is nonsense. It is disappointing to hear that from Mr. Limbaugh. There should have been an opt in, not an opt out. The fact that a former staff member was a lobbyist for the drug company is more than a little fishy. I don’t like this at all. And Mr. Perry has a number of other problems, not least his former support of Al Gore. One cannot just keep “apologizing” for misjudgments and bad choices in the past and expect to have people act like nothing ever happened. There are legitimate concerns about someone capable of the HPV fiasco and also of support of Al Gore. And there are other issues, all of them still unresolved. This man has too many warts, too many rough edges, too many past mistakes to be a viable candidate. He appeals strongly to his fan base. He could never possibly win the presidency. He should withdraw now to allow others to develop their campaigns.
Report Post »Johnnyp1958
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:56pmRUSH, Drop Dead you fat sausage fingers Media Lapdog Pig….
Report Post »Bete Noire
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:55pmLimbaugh is struggling to remain relevant. Threatening to take Bachmann “to the woodshed” so to speak” is a desperate act by what is quickly becoming a marginal voice. He’s so far in the tank for Perry as to be absurd. One distant voice on the radio does not a democracy make. It’s a process Limbaugh, you speak for yourself, the microphone in front of you is not the voice of the rest of the nation.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:58pmRush is “da bomb” he has more brains than Newt…. He has my vote.
Report Post »Bete Noire
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:10pmWhat’s Rush running for again?
Report Post »riverat1970
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:13pmThis is not a “democracy”, it is in fact at democratic republic. learn the difference.
Report Post »sambachico
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 11:42pmCompletely agree on relevance. McCain was their absolute last pick, kind of like Ron Paul. Talk radio has lost the ability to sway the electorate as many listeners have lost trust. Endless wars and carrying water for the Republican party way too long. Limbaugh has admitted to this. I like Jerry Doyle’s show these days. I listened to Limbaugh for some 10 years when I considered myself a neoconservative. It was the Internet and the Ron Paul revolution of 2008 that changed my views. Since then, I’ve canceled my television subscription and only use internet for news and entertainment.
Newt is a very smart politician, well informed and well spoken. However, he has too much RINO in him for me to be swayed his direction. At one time Limbaugh embraced people like Walter Williams, who I respect a great deal on economics and history. Limbaugh was late to the tea party, and he simply has lost his edge. He’s just in it for the money and ratings. His personal life has been a disaster, and he’s no moral authority. I think we need people who are leaders who can actually have moral authority, not just be entertainers.
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:48pmIt’s over the top shark
Report Post »nannyatnannydotgov
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:48pmWell, Limbaugh is an idiot if he thinks he can keep from looking like an idiot on this one!
The truth is, RICK PERRY DID SIGN IT INTO LAW. It was overturned by the state legislature a few months later. The opt out clause was added by the legislature because they new Rick Perry out of bounds on this play. Rick Perry wanted it to happen, mosty likely because he’s in bed with the makers of the vaccine.
Rush, do your freakin’ homework before you run your big mouth. Are you eatin’ Bilderbergers for lunch?
JediPatriot
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:55pmPerry’s former chief of staff was a lobbyist for Merck (the company that produces Gardasil). Just like how Al Gore has some interests in his “green” machine. He’s apparently not doing it for free.
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Ron_WA
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:46pmThe vaccine made an adolescent girl mentally retarded?!?!?! Come on!
I can’t believe Bachman is dumb enough to fall for that but to go on TV & repeat such obvious crap is unbelievable. I’d sooner believe Rush was a closet liberal than that line of bull.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:13pmP.S. I’m absolutely opposed to a mandatory vaccine in this case; I’m definitely not backing Perry on that decision.
Report Post »platitude
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:45pmSo clearly limbaugh is in bed with perry, and anyone who criticizes him is “jumping the shark”.
Report Post »Jaxco
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:42pmBachmann is dead-on right on this one.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:18pmno she is not right.
Report Post »i will no longer consider her a candidate that i might vote for, right up there with paul. And now that Romney has pawlenty on his side..he’s out too. a loser backing you is a joke and you have to be pretty desperate.
Jaxco
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:21pmMils, we have to agree to disagree, my friend. Bachmann is the most honest of all of the current candidates. I love Rush and I am a Rush 24/7 subscriber as well as a premium GBTV subscriber but Rush screwed the pooch here.
Report Post »Canyouhearus
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:59pmShe was absolutely right! Government has NO right to tell us what our children have to have… I thought eveyone here was for less government infringement in our lives. 1st event comes up and she’s the bad girl! He’s the one that interfered in the lives of chldren! And who is he to do that?. Like Onama care, do ya? Perry is a globalist! Do some checking before ya throw Michelle under the bus!.
Report Post »021021
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:40pmMy Letter to MS today
Dear Mrs. Bachmann,
I am a physician and I studied Gardasil before I gave my twin 12 year old girls the series of injections. I consider Gardasil an medical advance on par with all other immune therapies taken together have been the medical professions greatest contribution to human kind.
Gov. Perry was well advised and was doing a good service for his constituency with the mandated HPV with the opt out. He was saving lives. God bless him for that.
I believe you are using the issue in a way that will hurt you and will find very limited appeal.
I think that all of you should take Mr. Gingrich’s lead to heart and focus on removing the worst president in the history of America.
Truly
Report Post »thinkinghuman
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:51pmIt is a purely political reason for bringing it up.
Report Post »Big Texan
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:01pm……. so the deaths associated with it did not bother you ?????????? Sorry …. I love my kids way too much !
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:54pmWhenever you vaccinate a child whether it is for measles, mumps, chickenpox or… pick one, about 1% of the population has a negative reaction (this drug was no different you can check it out at the CDC). It is the responsibility of the PARENTS to check out all of the facts on every vaccine before you allow it to be given to your child; if you want the freedom to choose, you must also take responsibility. If you have concerns, discuss it with your doctor, if you can bring them a LEGIT medical reason for not innoculating, they will give you a waiver to take to the state. At least in Texas, your pastor can do the same. The other option you always have is to not enroll them in public schools.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:54pmsoo…it bothers you…do not take/give the shot…simple..
Report Post »Oregonian
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 5:48am021021:
This is the best comment on this issue that I have read so far. Thank you for your attempt to refocus the candidates on the task of defeating Barack Obama in 2012. Michele Bachmann has not just damaged Rick Perry’s campaign, she has given the mainstream media organizations a talking point that they can use ad nauseum to drown out the legitimate attempts by the other candidates to differentiate themselves and their solutions to America’s very real problems from the destructive policies of this administration over the last 2 1/2 years. If you had taken a poll of likely voters last week before the debate on the most significant issues facing the next President, the issue of Gardasil, executive orders which were never implemented, and a charge of “crony capitalism” because Merck makes a safe and effective vaccine used in at least 40 states AND gave a $5000 campaign contribution to Perry would not even have been on the radar!
Newt Gingrich and 021021 are right: let’s get back to the real issues that differentiate the candidates from Barack Obama and his administration. Michele overreacted badly, and I hope she gets her focus back soon. Rick Perry is not the problem; Barack Obama is!
Report Post »MatthewChapter24
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:40pmDear Physician:
Are your 12 yo daughters having sexual intercourse?
Report Post »70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:35pmRush Limbaugh is actually the one here doing the criticizing. He is showing his true colors. I knew it was only a matter of time before he started to become a RHINO again. Last presidential election it was him and Hanity that lead the Rhino charge. They have been pretending to be conservative until now they are going to defend Perry at any and all cost. Mark my words they are the reason we have Mccain. They will never let the Rhinos come to the conservatives its ALWAYS the conservatives have to sell out to the RHINOS. While the democrats have been moving to the socialist and now the communist. DO NOT SELL OUT no matter what talking head I will tell any of them to shove it if they try to make me sell out. No way I’m TRUE TEA PARTY.
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Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:44pmBachmann may have exposed Rick’s Achilles. Along with the border issues, there are going to be a lot of digging done. The people hate cronyism.
Report Post »Whether or not you can accept Perry’s apology, is up to the individual. Bottom line is, he did it by an anti-Constitutional EO. THAT says it all.
Rush, this is one time I wish you’d kept the pie hole shut.
wisehiney
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44pmYou’re really missing it if you think that Perry and McCain are in any way similar.
Report Post »EQUALIZER
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:32pmObama’s 3 GAY lovers all executed in Chicago 2007, I wonder why????
Report Post »YepImaConservative
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:51pmLol, heard about those stories that he’s bisexual. Obama still has a gay lover out here who is alive and well… Cwissie Maffhews. But I don‘t think he’s Obama’s type, so he‘ll just have to remain Obama’s gay lover from afar… tingley legs and all.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:55pmPerry is gay. Or bi. We don’t know which yet.
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:17pmIf perry did not EO the Gardisil , It would have never made it on the market…Now it is worldwide and ugly.
Live Free . Dle Well …
Btw …The Border is Wide open…
Report Post »Drakkhanlord
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:18pmactually only 2 executed…3rd died of aids.
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44pmHis # 1 sneak is still RuPaul.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 6:32pmWhooooops. Bachman must be on the way out. Rush won’t telll the truth when it applies to winning repubes. And, if God told Bachman to run, and she loses, she was listening to someone else obviously.
Report Post »glassaudioguy
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 7:44pmNot necessarily. I‘m sure you couldn’t classify any of the biblical prophets as “successful” in any earthly sense. Even if she loses she could still change a lot of the debate. And if anyone has jumped the shark it’s Limbaugh. I listen to Dennis Prager in his same time slot if I’m within listening distance of a station carrying him.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 8:49pm@Glassaudioguy. Excellent point. I retract my statement.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 13, 2011 at 9:54pmRush is often right, but this time he’s plainly wrong:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/13/what-limbaugh-missed-about-perry-and-gardasil/
Winedude
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 1:33amAll these references to God are just plain silly. Perhaps one exists but consider the following: “Either God can prevent evil but chooses not to, which means he is not all-good, or he wishes to prevent evil but cannot, which means he is not all-powerful.” What more can I say?
Report Post »glassaudioguy
Posted on September 14, 2011 at 11:23am@Winedude- like those are the only two options? God is all good and all powerful, but part of that goodness was to allow free will, something He knew could be misused. Without it we’re just robots. And if He were to intervene anytime someone steps out of line even just a little, that too would be seen as dictatorial and coercive and wouldn’t allow people to reach their full potential for good or evil. How man can have free will and God still have ultimate sovereignty is one of those mysteries we’ll never solve this side of heaven.
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