Listen to Steny Hoyer Shout at John Boehner House Floor Over Payroll Tax Cut Extension
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The following is audio from the House floor where Democratic Minority Leader Steny Hoyer can be heard challenging Speaker John Boehner. Hoyer is featured below shouting, “Mr. Speaker, we’d like to ask for unanimous consent that we bring up the bill to extend the tax cut for 160 million Americans as you walk off the floor, Mr. Speaker.”
“Mr. Speaker, you’re walking out. You’re walking away just as so many Republicans have walked away from middle-class taxpayers” Hoyer shouted to the then-empty chair where the Boehner sits.
WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Careening toward a politically toxic tax hike, President Barack Obama implored House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday to get behind a two-month stopgap until a longer deal could be struck early next year, calling it the only real way out of a mess that is threatening the paychecks of 160 million workers and isolating House Republicans.
In a weary Washington, the outreach accomplished little. All sides seemed to end the day where they began, with heavy political and economic consequences at stake.
Boehner remained insistent on a full-year extension of the existing payroll tax cut before Jan. 1, urging Obama to haul Senate Democrats back to town to talk to his chosen negotiators. “Let’s get this done today,” Boehner told Obama, according to a speaker’s aide, who required anonymity to characterize a private conversation.
But the Capitol was emptying out fast, and the Senate showed no inclination to return, having already passed a bipartisan two-month tax cut it thought had settled the matter.
For taxpayers, and for an economy starting to show some life again, the standoff was all holiday gloom.
Barring any action by Congress, Social Security payroll taxes will go up almost $20 a week for a worker making a $50,000 salary – that’s $40 less for a typical paycheck or $1,000 over the whole year. Almost 2 million people would lose unemployment benefits as well.
The political risks seemed only to deepen, too, particularly for House Republicans. They appeared poised to take the biggest blame for a tax increase even while pushing for a deeper one.
The reliably conservative editorial page of The Wall Street Journal blasted both Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell, the GOP leader, for how they handled the matter. “The GOP leaders have somehow managed the remarkable feat of being blamed for opposing a one-year extension of a tax holiday that they are surely going to pass,” the paper’s editorial said.
In a year of legislative brinksmanship remarkable even by Washington standards, the latest fight spilled into the lap of Republican candidates running for president.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich chastised Congress, particularly the Senate, for failing to extend the 2 percentage point tax cut for a full year.
“They can’t figure out how to pass a one-year extension, so the Senate leaves town?” Gingrich remarked while campaigning in Iowa. “It’s an absurd dereliction of duty.”
Rival Mitt Romney refused to take a position, again steering clear of Washington’s hot policy debate.
“I’m not going to get into the back-and-forth on the congressional sausage-making process,” the former Massachusetts governor told reporters after events in New Hampshire. “I hope they’re able to sit down and work out a solution that works for the American people.”
But the White House made clear the time for talks were over for this year.
“The negotiating has happened already,” presidential spokesman Jay Carney said, referring to the Senate bill the White House insists was sealed with Boehner’s blessing.
Boehner disputes that he ever gave a nod of support to the two-month tax cut that many in his caucus oppose.
He and other House members call it a poor and unworkable tax policy.
Obama also called the Senate’s Democratic leader, Harry Reid, and praised him for the bipartisan tax-cut bill with McConnell that passed the Senate.
Obama did most of the talking in his 10-minute call to Boehner.
The president made clear to Boehner that this was essentially his last legislative chance: There was no other option under consideration except the two-month tax bill, no surprise last-minute deal, and no real chance that Reid was calling the Senate back, according an administration official who spoke anonymously to describe the private phone call.
From Boehner’s perspective, the only real progress was that Obama had shown engagement with the speaker that he had not in weeks, according to an aide who also spoke anonymously to describe internal thinking.
Obama for months has called for a year-long extension of the tax cut; he would prefer that it be deepened, too, although that idea never went anywhere in Congress.
The stalemate has centered on how to pay for another year’s tax cut without adding to the deficit. That is the debate ahead – if the two-month deal gets done first.
Boehner’s reaction gave no hints of a breakthrough, even though House Republicans appear increasingly isolated. They’re not getting support from Senate Republicans and are battling against a president whose approval numbers, while not impressive, are better than theirs.
Earlier Wednesday, the combatants on Capitol Hill continued to fight over a battleground that’s already well worn.
Reid started with a letter to Boehner urging him to bring House lawmakers back to Washington – most have left by now – and approve the bipartisan Senate measure. Reid said he was fully confident Congress could agree on a year-long tax extension, but not before the House acts to prevent a tax increase on Jan. 1.
Minutes later, Boehner and other top House Republicans invited reporters into a meeting where they urged Reid to bring senators back to town so they can negotiate over a yearlong extension of the tax cut and jobless benefits. The bill would also postpone a scheduled Jan. 1 cut of 27 percent in payments to doctors who treat Medicare patients.
“All we’re asking for is to get Senate members over here to work with us,” Boehner said.
In a moment of political theater, Democrats tried to get the House to consider the two-month extension of the payroll tax cut as the chamber convened for a ceremonial session at which no formal business was scheduled. But acting speaker Rep. Michael Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., adjourned the chamber and walked out.
Obama was to have left Washington by now for a Christmas vacation in Hawaii, where his wife and two daughters have been since the weekend.
Instead, after speaking to Boehner and Reid, he found a different escape from the White House.
He took his dog, Bo, and went holiday shopping.
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Comments (261)
finadena
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:30pmThe Dem controlled senate have already taken off and gone home for the holidays. The issue of the Payroll Tax Cut has not yet been resolved. The senate changed the bill, sent it back to the House and expect it to be approved for a 2 months extention. I was under the impression that congress were to stay in Washington until the issue’s in the bill were resolved and as the prez requested for the full year. I guess if its your party, the 2 months extension is just fine forget about the full year. REALLY CONFUSED ON THIS ONE.
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:35pmDon’t be confused. Just another dem smoke and mirrors scam.
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:32pmHave you NOT been watching the news?? John Boehner praised the Senate amendment last Saturday and indicated that it was a ‘done deal’. The protocol is now that the House take up the Senate Amendment and either vote it UP or DOWN. However, Boehner has refused to bring the Senate motion to the floor. Without an Up or Down vote NO ONE can do a thing. Not even the President! If/when the House brings up the Senate amendment and votes it down then YES everyone can go to conference. Until then the point is mute – and everyone is at a standstill. Even John McCain, Rupert Murdoch’s Wall St. Journal, and many other Republicans (including Carl Rove and Newt Gingrich and many Republican senators (including Tea Party types – Marco Rubio, Scott Brown et. al.) are pleading for Boehner to bring the Senate Amendment up for a vote. Blame John Boehner for this one. He is GIVING the 2012 Presidency back to Obama BEFORE the Republican candidate is even chosen. Sorry!!
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:45pmThis is NOT a TAX CUT… this is a CUT in FICA, the INSURANCE, for funding SOCIAL SECURITY!
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:59pmHEY STENYDUDE-
My family’s medical bills have sky rocketed—-thanks to you and your merry crew of Peelooski/DingyHarry and Obummer.
SHOUT all you want you LOSER
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:03pmThe masks of these evil people are coming off more and more everyday. Boehner is on the wrong side because he’s a progressive, but he’s not fully immersed into the hate filled cult of the technocratic Marxists. Of course they are going to rail against him. They need him to shepherd the right wing into this goofy utopian nonsense.
My reaction? M E H! The more they scream their pathetic message, the closer they are to facilitating their end.
For all you left leaning dolts, and atheists, your time in America is coming to an end. You have already lost, and that‘s why you’re out there with maniacal looks and raving lunacy. The dust is about to settle and you will be cut off. The United States belongs to God and His Christ, and to His people. Your days have been measured and justice is about to come to pass. There won’t be enough mountains for you to try and hide under. Maybe you all can petition scientistics to whip you up a spaceship and whisk you away to a technocratic society all your perverted own. I hope you’ll each hold your breath in anticipation of that happening!
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:03pm“On behalf of Americans for Tax Reform, I am pleased to support the tax cut extension package you unveiled on Friday. It cuts taxes and cuts spending….” Grover Norquist
Read more: http://www.atr.org/atr-supports-house-legislation-payroll-tax-a6637#ixzz1hDlJKVRP
It’s a tax cut. Who’s lying to you?
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:27pm@ tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:03pm
“On behalf of Americans for Tax Reform, I am pleased to support the tax cut extension package you unveiled on Friday. It cuts taxes and cuts spending….” Grover Norquist
Read more: http://www.atr.org/atr-supports-house-legislation-payroll-tax-a6637#ixzz1hDlJKVRP
It’s a tax cut. Who’s lying to you?
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…re sheep sheep sheep. Save your BS links for your progressive clic.
AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:39pmSteny and Barf Obama are both as phony as a three dollar bill.
Report Post »Amma K
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:54pmI am a staunch conservative, but my husband is an independent. Tonight he was saying that he hates what Obama is doing but what the republicans are doing in the house is just wrong. I tried to explain that the Democratic senate changed the bill and then left town – that it wasn’t the republicans, but he said that wasn’t how it looked. I’m afraid that he could be right. Our country can’t afford to have Obama reelected!!!!!!! We need to have some ADULTS running our country – not these jokers. I am blaming both parties – figure out what is good for the country – not your political careers!!!!!
Report Post »historyforgotten
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:38pmBOTH PARTIES Left Town.
Report Post »I Blame Conservatives, for Wanting to make Obama Fail(Which means America will Fail)….AND I Blame Democrats, for NOT Giving ‘Specific’ Explainations, for their ACTIONS.
bikerr
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:24pm@historyforgotten—-Obama’s failing all on his own doing. You really have forgot!
Report Post »jzs
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 11:55pmCertainly he was grandstanding to make to the point of the the Speaker of the House while the Senate bill was left at the alter. Okay, that’s for show, I’ll give you that. But the House member’s point was that that the Republican leadership of the House would not let the bill come up for an up or down vote. Why do suppose that would be? Hello! Because the bill would probably have passed, with a lot of Republicans voting along with their Senate brethren, who thought a deal had been reached.
Face it: Tea Party House members don’t care if the average American gets a tax break. They are looking after their rich benefactors, not their constituency, which is you, me, the average American.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:05amIt’s the pipe line, PERIOD !! Obama and the Dems thought they could snake out of it with this 2 month deal. Too many promises have already been made by the house repub’s, so they are not budging. Obama and Reid don’t want to harm their lefty loons who environmental wack jobs. Everybody knows it and old slick Harry Reid just thought he would change the bill and send the senators home. This is Obama and Reids Fault. I stand with Bohner and the House….. H
Report Post »michael48
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:09amnice try , comrade jzs…next..
Report Post »smackdown33
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:15amHomer Hoyer has been a loser for years. Who listens to that blabbering fool?
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 7:49amif i was still running a business i would not be able to react to the stupid things that the government is doing. idiots like hoyer should have been put out to pasture years ago .the man is a total fool.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 9:04amI don’t need to listen to a jackass bray to know it is just a loud noise that ought be ignored. what the
Report Post »democratic Party and the enemy in the Executive have done is like a loud fart in a closed space–very smelly and an embarrassment but when the door opens and fresh air comes in and a body can separate from the offender– hey all that is left is a bad memory. I AGREE with the House Republicans in this stupid political GAME the DemoRATS are attempting to force feed America.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 11:47amI must admit, they kinda lost me at “Listen to Steny Hoyer…”
My eyes glazed over and my hearing just dimmed to a complete silence and I started daydreaming and then started dozing off…
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:22pmWould like to know where his voice was when the deficit was heading to 15 trillion? I am not sure why the Republicans are running away from the ‘No” vote they passed on payroll tax. With Obama and his so called everyday people in attendance…. I would like to know what those everyday people in attendance make hourly and if they are not working, what they made before they were layed off. It is shere stupidity to think that a 2 month fix is the gold pot at the end of the rainbow. Why not hammer out the deal and get it done with. Pushing it off is exactly why nothing is being done. The Senate needs to read their job duties again and recognize that they need to stop passing everything off for another time and maybe, just maybe, get a balanced budget together.
Report Post »coindexter
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 5:02pmJZS…you supertard. the tea party is in control of the house??? the tea party is the party of the rich???… are you debbie Vasserman-schultz (yes, pronounced like a true nazi). the “bigger the lie” theory is being tested equally by the two of you.
Report Post »IMPEACH GEORGE SOROS!!
Posted on December 23, 2011 at 4:11amNo, I didn’t wast my time by watching the vid but I can guess what was basically said in so many words.
Stenkie Hoyer: How dare you evil Republicans not do what we say so we can give the little people their crumbs!!!
Report Post »doodlebugger
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:29pmSteny Hoyer is a douchebag, no offence to douchebags.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:36pmBut these RINO’s keep falling for his played out ****. The republican leaders are a ignorant as the democrats voters are.
Report Post »Scarybones
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:36pmCouldn’t have said it better.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:41pmHoyer and Pelosi refused to allow the GOP to attend Obama care meetings and debate. Steny you will know what is in the bill when it becomes law.
Report Post »orkydorky
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:44pmThey are all douche bags, especially the one that went holiday shopping instead of Christmas shopping!
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:46pmWHY DID STATE RUN MEDIA RUN THIS VIDEO?
The House was shut down. No one was there so who was he talking too. Barney Franks did this several times to GOPers. Hoyer did this to GOPers too. Its time to cry.
Report Post »Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:48pmSomeone please tell Hinkley that Steny Hoyer and Harry Reid is pounding Jodie Foster!
Report Post »fixer
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:53pmLet’s just vote ALL this trash out in 2012..anybody with more than ONE term is GONE.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:11pmBoehner and Canter are handing the election to Obama! Sometimes I wish there were a third party because the Republicans are stupid! They are doing such a poor job that we may even lose the House AGAIN! Grrrrrrrrrr….God help us!
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:16pmHoyer is that gooey stuff that lines the inside of panties.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:34pmDOODLEBUGGER,
Tell me about it! I LIVE in Maryland!
Hoyer, Van Hollen, and every rep. we have here…, with the exception of Andy Harris , and Roscoe Bartlett, are jerk(with) off PROGRESSIVES!
Steny Hoyer and Chris Van Hollen werte instrumental in the passage of “OBAMACARE”!
This state is so gerrymandered by the Dems. they can do whatever they want. IT is disgusting!
Steny Hoyer has NO sense of serving this nation! He serves his PARTY!
Report Post »randy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:43pmPrepared, staged speech….Disgusting
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:49pm“Steny Hoyer is a douchebag, no offence to douchebags.”
Distasteful as they may be, douchebags do serve a useful purpose. Hoyer does not.
Report Post »PaulfromTexas
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:51pmLook at the booze schnozz on this guys,,,what a buncha lushes…crooks all of ‘em
Report Post »Publius Novus
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:52pmYes he is…very much so. But speaker “*****” is a tool too, if it were up to him this would have been a done deal…the freshmen TEA party Repub’s are driving this thing, thank goodness some people up there have some testicular fortitude!
Report Post »Publius Novus
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:56pmGood grief you can say douchebag but not “B_O_N_E_R? Thanks Blaze!
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:26pmCOMMUNIST DemonCrats
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:47pmWorld leaders are calling Obama the clown president. That could be said of the Democrats, they are the Clown Party.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:22pmHoyer…………. POS.
Report Post »Holland
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:20pmThis is what it looks like when democrats pitch a hissy fit because they can’t get their tax increase on the job creators. Van Holland pretty much admitted it on Neal’s show.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:28pmbecause its better to increase taxes on the workers, instead of the 1%.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:29pmmaybe…however, it now looks like the republicans are the bad guys…boehner should have stood up to the azz. but, we all know how republicans (don’t) fight back
Report Post »johnsell
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:47pmCan’t you see that this is how Democrats get the payroll tax increase they want without having to vote against extending it and hoping the blame sticks on the Republicans who wanted it to be at least a year long………Duh. We need to fire them all………
Report Post »Depressed_American
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:26pmIt’s not a Tax Cut!!! The are cuting the money from of Your, Mine, and every working American’s Social Security Account, the account that is about to run out of money. How is this going to create Jobs, as the President Keeps touting in the Media?
Report Post »VerySeniorCitizen
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:32pm@ DEPRESSED AMERICAN You may – or not – know that there hasn‘t been a ’Social Security’ ACCOUNT for the last forty years! Many years ago (because a special account would need to be invested – and the ups and down of the stock market wasn’t reliable) all the Social Secutiry money has been put into the nation’s GENERAL FUND; and that fund issued IOUs to pay for your, my and everyone else’s Social Security. The actual value of those IOUs at the moment is about $2.5 Trillion (with a T). And by the way Social Security has never added one thin dime to the debt or deficit of this country. So, to make the point ———— As the payroll tax cut allows folks to keep more of their own money, what is ‘lost’ to the ‘socual security account’ is IMMEDIATELY replaced with FULL VALUE IOUs. NOBODY loses anything from these payroll taxes. BELIEVE IT OR NOT! You’ve got a computer with a serch engine! Look it up.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 7:45amWhat kind of jackwagon goes by the name Steny anyway? Were his parents drunk or what?
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:17pmI doubt Steny and the Dumbocraps are worried about the 40 bucks a month increase in taxes, they are crapping their pants about their supporters not getting another taxpayer funded extension in unemployment so they can continue to sit on their butts or go and get recall petitions signed in Wisconsin until the election.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:29pmWe know the GOP is not worried, if you are not in the 1% you are of no concern to the GOP until election time.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:19pmEncinom – what a joke. Obama has more rich donors than anyone. Pelosi is one rich woman since she came to the Senate. They are all corrupt and rich.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:37pm@From Virginia
Again, you run from the issue, facts are that the GOP has done nothing but to block relief for the middle class and the workers. The GOP has assaulted the rights of minorities and the workers, they have passed addtional burdens on the middle class in order to to stay faithful to their oath to Norquist. The GOP has shown that it care about hte 1% and only the 1%.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:40pmENCINOM, you inspired me to check the Norquist tweets. True to form he’s sending thinly veiled threats to pledge-signers who denounce it. Not everybody wants to be henchmen for the 1%, like he does.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:17pm@Encinom – the dems have not passed a budget in 3 YEARS!!!!! Wake up, dude!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:57pmFor crying out loud….IT”S ONLY FOR 2 MONTHS…. it does nothing and changes nothing. All I hear is some big mouth little brained person putting on a show that’s all about him, saying hey, look at me standing up for you.
Report Post »crazyrightwingmom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 10:43pmEncinom is a troll…his purpose in life is to try and confuse those who want to have intelligent conversations. Ignore him.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 12:12amgranny left the lemming cage open again..comrade insanom is loose again…hide the puppy chow.
Report Post »lhvd6639
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:16pmHe talks about the hard working middle class what about the four million vacation his boy is taking on the backs of the hard working middle class. Give me a brake
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:16pmWhere was the shout? (WaPo unofficial poll: 94% blame Boehner 6% blame Obama that 160M lose the tax cut.) btw, did you hear Mitt on this? Every word that leaves his mouth sounds like there’s a “take-backs” clause.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:21pmThat’s because the only people that read WaPo are communist leftists.
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:25pmLol. Assclown.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:26pmHow is the Social Security deduction a tax? Haven’t we been told all these years it is a retirement fund deduction? How is this supposed to help anyone if it takes money out of the Social Security “Trust Fund” for our future retirement? How does this help if the solvency of Social Security is already in trouble? How does the additional $4.00 each week in my paycheck help? Am I supposed to rush out and buy a coffee at Starbucks to stimulate the economy?
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:15pmBlackhawk is correct. Nobody reads that rag here. They can’t even give it away. I know – because they gave me a year of Sunday papers for free even though I told the guy I didn’t want them – for free! They dropped em off anyway. I used them for my bird cage.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:40pm@From Virginia
Nobody on the Blaze reads anything that isn’t from Fox News or Glenn Beck approved. The average poster here is nothing more than a good little sheep, bahing along as Beck commands.
tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:47pmFROM VA, circulation= 545,345 Daily, 764,666 Sunday
Report Post »Chances are if you can’t stop the free delivery you may not be able to understand it anyway. :P
From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 8:21pm@Tifosa – or their numbers are inflated BECAUSE they are dumping them on a public that doesn’t WANT them.
@Encinom – I don’t watch Fox news. Too liberal and won’t even SAY the word terrorist. Never watched Beck’s show and I only know of this site because it was linked to another site I read. The other site has normal people on it and not a bunch of brainwashed liberal numbskulls – so this site is more fun to watch you people’s heads explode.
Report Post »Michael61
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:15pmMiracle!!! So, now Obama and Democrats believe that TAX CUTS would help the US economic recovery??? Who would imagine???
Well, of course most everybody else including John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan believed it as well…
“It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now … Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus.” – John F. Kennedy, Nov. 20, 1962, president’s news conference
“Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government.” – John F. Kennedy, Jan. 17, 1963, annual budget message to the Congress, fiscal year 1964
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 6:11pmDidn’t the foxfolks tell you that President Obama has cut taxes lower than the bush did?
Report Post »LeeroyJenkins
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:14pmMr. Hoyer… We would like you to vote on the gas pipe lines and the extensions to search in American water and land for OIL! We would like to stop being taxed 3 dollars a pack of cigarettes Mr. Hoyer! Right there as you walk away look at ya…You cannot cut the middle class any breaks especially not the working poor. What about those people who could be making 30k a year on unemployment instead of the 17k per year they make now MR.HOYER?!? What about the people who have been doing it for 4 years with NO RAISE MR. HOYER?>!? Is that Mr. Speakers fault or Mrs. Speakers fault? Or Is it ALL OF YOUR FAULTS?!? I choose ALL OF YOUR FAULTS. Quit stealing 4k a year from my 17k a year SIR!
Report Post »conservativeblackman
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:13pmSteny doesn’t like it when the tables are turned.
Report Post »Depressed_American
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:17pmIt’s about time the Democrats get the same treatment they gave when Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House. The Democrats STILL haven’t accepted that the American People rejected their approach to governing in the Nov 2010 election……..
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:21pmThe house republicans already passed a payroll tax cut extension, but unlike the democratics in the senate, it was for a whole year. Now the step would ordinarily be for the house and the senate to iron out the differences in conference. However a conference is not possible because the democrats in the senate went home. The democrats are so much better in developing their talking points, read lies, and smashing the republicans over the head with them ever chance they get. The republicans need to get their message out in a much more forceful and meaningful wahy.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:34pm@Shasta
Lets not lie, the GOP House passed a bill that they knew the Senate coul dnot pass and the White House would veto. They passed a bill that would fund the payroll tax breaks on the back of the workng americans, sparing the 1% from paying their fair share.
The OGP has made it clear, tax breaks are only for the 1%, while the working and middle class must bear additional burdens and taxes.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:12pmDemocrates are masters at turning things onto the Republicans. When are the Republicans going to start shooting the truth at Democrats? I am so sick of the twisted, crude Dems. They are always angry, angry, angry. One day maybe they will look in the mirror and be horrified at how ugly they have become and will notice how very long their noses have grown.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:15pmshouting the truth – sorry, would never want them to shoot the truth at the Dems, lol.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:17pm@NHWINTER – a long time ago one did when he yelled “Liar!” to President Obama. No greater truth may well ever been spoken than that–and look what happened then. He ended up apologizing!
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:21pmJustpeachy – I do remember that and I thought it was great. He was proved right and should never have apologized, but I guess it was improper in that particular setting. More should be shouting liar at all the Dems. say, every day.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:09pmHoyer is a modern day communist. This “IS” how they behave. Then they call for tolerance and decorum.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:17pmTouche’; I agree. Hoyer passed ‘Obamacare’ and it cut medicare to “pay” or it; where were you then Stenny? The Dems caused the mess last congress…………Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Report Post »1773patriot
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:09pmHey Steny… you are now telling us that what we pay into Social Security is actually a TAX? I thought we were paying into a fund to be used in our retirement years… but now you call it a TAX? And since you are all for cutting this TAX, does that mean you SUPPORT DE-FUNDING SOCIAL SECURITY? Oh wait, no, you just want anyone that can afford to buy a house to pay for other peoples social security by imposing a tax on home buying. Steny, you are a P.O.S. liar.
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:09pmHoyer just earned himself a special payback from “Dear Leader” Obama for his loyalty and partisanship.
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:08pmBoehner/Hoyer – dumb & dumber
Vote them both out – help save our country from these corrupt, incompetent politicians.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:06pmThat 4% payroll tax will affect medicare etc. It is not the tax cut that bothers the republicans. it is the fact that the demos will not make a budget and want to keep nickle and diming the moneys month after month. The democommies know that if they make a budget and show it …people can see the waste and the theft they have been doing these past years and to the present. They are also afraid they will not get their usual billion dollar pay-offs to their cronies passed.
Report Post »Phreqguru
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:05pmsigning a two month extension makes about as much sense as voting yet another “continuing resolution” to keep the DOD floating. They can’t seems to get a budget passed? They are all fired, clean the house again. Wake up America.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:18pmEver feel like they’re all just putting on a “show” for us. . . just in time for Christmas–much like last year. . .
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:25pmBy having this battle every two months, the democrats will try to keep this issue alive through the elections. Most politicians are totally despicable.
Report Post »bernbart
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:01pmYes the House republicans took the bait and are now in Obama’s mouse trap. Love it.
Report Post »Depressed_American
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:24pmYeah the only problem with your analysis is Americans have seen/been watching this Obama Administration and Harry Ried Senate NOT produce a single serious budget in THREE years!!! The House has done the job they were voted to do. They have approved bill after bill, only to have HARRY RIED BLOCK it in the Senate, and then Him and President Obama have the gall to blame the Republicans for NOT doing their job……..
Report Post »encinom
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:43pmDepressed_American
Report Post »Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:24pm
Yeah the only problem with your analysis is Americans have seen/been watching this Obama Administration
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HAte to break it to you but with the stunt the GOP is pulling, Obama’s poll numbers are on the rise. It looks like Americans have woken up from the tea ****** coma, and realized the error of their ways. It started in Ohio with the vote to repeal anti-worker law. it is continuing in Wis. to fire Walker.
Depressed_American
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 9:15pmencinom,
What have they done!!! There has not been a budget in the 3 years that Obama has been President. The Senate will NOT worked on hardly any of the bills that the House has PASSED. 47% of this nation does NOT pay any taxes, so what is the definition of “fair” share when the top 5% of income earners in this country pay 40% of this nation’s taxes. Lets see… He has put this country in more debt than ANY of the previous President in America’s history. The list could go on and on……
So you keep your faith in Obama and the Democrats…. I hope things work for you and your fellow Liberals in 2012…. I think you and the orhters are going to greately disappointed, just like Nov 2010, but that is just my opinion…..
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:00pmBoehner needs to grow a set and tell Mr. Hoyer to STFU. This lame piece of legislation ended up just where it should…in the trash.
Report Post »mils
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:08pmwe agree!!…grow some balls boehner…But Republicans never answer back..losers all
Report Post »still of the opinion republicans want to lose..look like they’re trying to win, a little bit
..but planning to lose
HKS
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:08pmYa, I’m not feeling this as a good thing, gutting social security even more for a two month fix? They just ripped out 1/2 a trillion with Obama care. I guess it’s not going bankrupt fast enough they need to slow down the input a bit. That way in a few years your social security will be at the pleasure of the king.
Report Post »Skippy Toes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:59pmLike watching teenagers.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:20pmOn behalf of teenagers everywhere I think you owe them an apology, Skippy Toes! lol ;-)
Report Post »bernbart
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:58pmThe Tea Party republicans in the House are acting like 8 year old school yard bullies. The House now lacks the leadership it needs to get anything done. The Tea Party republicans have pretty much led the republicans down a road of self destruction for 2012.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:00pmYou want Bullying to whine about? You got it. Now sit down and shut up you geek-ass Democrat! Think that was “bullying? Wait until November 2012.
Report Post »Skippy Toes
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:04pmNope. Your wrong.
Report Post »SteveSD
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:09pmThat’s like saying the people jumping into the life boats as the Titanic sunk were headed for utter destruction.
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:11pmIs that what you are? I figured you for a school kid…but a little older than 8.
Report Post »For an eight year old you communicate fairly well. You lie and you make little sense, but you’re relatively articulate for an eight year old.
Bonnieblue2A
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:12pmPerhaps you’d like to explain what sense it makes to repeat the proven failure of the payroll tax cut for only two months? The paperwork it will cause employers alone at this late date is insane! If it is going to be done, and make Social Security less solvent in the process, it should be done for a year or not at all.
This is pure political theater, nothing more. Throw all the bums out!
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:18pmThe Tea party is what has saved this country from being taxed and spent to death….No one seems to understand that this SS “tax cut” is a load of crap….you still have to pay the full tax come tax time…So all it does it makes people pay a lump sum instead of taking it out of each check painlessly. Those who get money back each year will know this, because you see a smaller return due to having to make up for the 2% that wasn’t deducted as normal. It is just more Obama smoke and mirrors and the IDIOTS are buying it……2012 can’t get here soon enough….
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:19pmAgreeing with President Obama on a two month Tax Extension? To quote the great Admiral Ackbar “IT’S A TRAP!”
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:29pmWhy is it ok for the democrats in the senate to refuse to take the house bill up for a vote, or to send the senators home before a possible conference can take place, but if the republicans in the house do not vote for the senate bill, as is, they are obstructionists? The ol double standard raises (or lowers) its ugly head again.
Report Post »From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 7:25pmThe House has passed bill after bill. The senate dems keep tabling them. What the he11 do you want from them? The dems haven’t passed a budget in THREE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:57pmSucks to be in the Minority. Sucks to be you, Mr. Hoyer.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:57pmI haven’t seen you on the site in some time, glad to see you posting. BTW, I still have the best quote about the obama’s posted in my office, which has certainly generated some interesting discussions.
“Everything the obama’s have someone gave them, every misfortune in their life is someone else’s fault.”
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piper60
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:54pmSpeaker works for Obama, clearly. Really disappointed.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:02pmYou sound exactly like the Brain-Dead-Rubes I laugh at every day on the Daily Kos. No one cares if you’re “really disappointed”.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:10pmpiper60
You must have gone to Public School if you think the Speaker works for Obama or any other President. Ever hear of the separation of Powers in our Representative Republic? Your probably another uniformed Democrat that thinks we are a Democracy.
Report Post »bringiton
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 5:32pm@ BLACKHAWK: Clearly!
Report Post »Mrs. Bowers
Posted on December 21, 2011 at 4:53pmAll for show.
Report Post »brewmaster
Posted on December 22, 2011 at 10:27amyes it is,,, all show… this wasnt nothing but a sound bite for the Obama camp to use in their election ad
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