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BlazeCast Rewind! Historian David Barton Answers Critics and Takes Questions

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  • donaldchar
    Posted on August 14, 2012 at 2:17am

    In my reading of the book I found little to criticize. Every writer is free to speak his opinions. Isn’t it strange that some of the books that Mr Barton mentions in his book have no basis in fact, yet are taken as the truth because of their status in academia?
    No one questions them. How is it that all these other writers voice their opinions and findings and their publications are never pulled from shelves. This seems like a vendetta against a leading authority.
    If this comes down to the criticism of the Calvinists, how dare they act as if they are the only true Christian view point and somehow have a right to burn at the stake all other Christians.
    Be sure that it‘s not just a ’Barton roast‘ you’re after. Isn’t it strange that those with differing views are not satisfied to state their points and let things go. They have to destroy anything that they disagree with.

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    • williambrucecar
      Posted on August 16, 2012 at 4:20pm

      The state religion of Virginia was Anglican genius. Any source of church info on Thomas Jefferson would come from Calvinists! Stop reading revisionist history, go to THE SOURCE, as Mr. Barton does, and perhaps you might learn that you do not know what you do not know, and perhaps then you would not have to receive an educational spanking in such an open forum.
      The Truth In Love,
      GOD BLESS YOU!!!

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  • ChristianHistorian
    Posted on August 4, 2012 at 4:16pm

    Former11Bavo,

    Read about case precedence and what the law says under the 14th Amendment.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-rubio-birthers-should-read-the-law/article/1312051

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  • dylan
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 11:19pm

    Chrome is my ‘useful idiot’!

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  • cassandra
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:26pm

    when the atheiest sue over a cross I wish David Barton would go to court on behalf of the Constitution and the right to show our faith in the 1st amendment

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  • Buck-Farack
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:33pm

    If you are having any issues with the stream — we understand that the Chrome browser works very well with this technology

    Didn’t Beck warn against using google? So why now promote it?

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  • beckNcall
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:30pm

    David Barton needs his own show! How about it Glenn? Blazin‘ America’s History with David Barton as your host! What say you??????

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    • GoodStuff
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:39pm

      Been saying that for awhile. What’s the delay Beck? Give this guy his own show!

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    • ComradeAdam
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 3:02pm

      He may not want a full time show. But, it would be well recieved if he had one.

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    • 65Plus
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:14pm

      I Second it. Third it. Barton with his own show. Once a week for a year would be just fine [he has to sleep sometime.]

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  • LINKSTER
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:34pm

    David Barton is the best. Whenever I hear he is going to be on GBTV I am going to be there. I don’t know anyone who is more knowledgeable on the American Constitution and who has such a nice way of communicating.

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    • ChristianHistorian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:23pm

      Barton is knowledgeable and well read. Also, for clearer information check out “The American Constitution:A Biography” by Akhil Reed Amar, “The Words We Live By:Your Annotated Guide to the Constitution” by Linda Monk (also check out http://ratify.constitutioncenter.org/constitution/index_no_flash.php she is very favorable to religios freedom) and finally, winner of the Pulitzer Prize, “Original Meaning:Politics and Ideas in the Making of the Constitution” by Jack N. Rackove.

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  • BloodSweatandTears
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:44pm

    I heard only David’s answers, not the moderators questions. Anyone else experience such problems?

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  • dlivelli
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:33pm

    That was great, Thanks David, Scott, Billy! WE have to meet like this more often!

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  • condor655
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:32pm

    Why dont ANY Conservative Leaders or Pundits every bring up the Natural Born Citizen reqt for POTUS that most Street Conservatives believe that Obama and Rubio/Jindal do not meet?

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  • Leopold
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:24pm

    As I was listening to David Barton explain that our rights come from God it occurred to me why the freedom from religion group is pushing so hard to get God out of the picture.

    His authority HAS to be eliminated so that the rights we have can be revoked.

    First and Second Amendment.

    That is the purpose of them pushing so hard and relentess to get ANY reference to God out of the way.

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    • JimL
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:37pm

      The decision making life arbitrary split the Declaration from the Constitution. The Constitution is now relative and a historic interpretation of it must be fought, continuously, in the culture war.

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    • ChristianHistorian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:48pm

      As long as the Establishment Clause remains in the First Amendment we will never take God out of America but the government can not make any reference to any religion without violating the Establishment Clause and likewise may not prevent private citizens from praying or reading their Bible or Koran on government property as long as there is no pressure to force religious views on coworkers or customers. Let them whine. I like the fact that they are spending copious amounts of $$ on a lost cause.

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    • ChristianHistorian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:59pm

      As long as Christians and NRA members like me live and breathe the Bill of Rights is safe. There are more of US than them.

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    • 65Plus
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:16pm

      Believe you are correct. Thanks for the clear thinking.

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  • UnreconstructedLibertarian
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:18pm

    David and Glenn’s treatment of Nathan Bedford Forrest on July 20th, did great damage to my confidence in these men. A confidence they will not regain until they face their opponents on this topic.

    Anything less, is cowardice.

    I can’t say more.

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:37pm

      Huh? I live in Tennessee – I know the truth about NBF – what did Glenn or David say that was false? Or do you own and maintain the ridiculous memorial to NBF off I-65 near Harding Place?

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:49pm

      Two US Congressional investigations and a separate one done by Sherman himself (while during the war) did not convict Forrest of the things Glenn and David did.

      This is all recent revision

      Let’s see these guys refute the actual Forrest historians face to face. They’ll cling to one source, so I’ll cite one source. Which is antithetical to what these men proposed Forrest was all about.

      Read “The Fourth” article at this newspaper, preserved by the Library of Congress.
      http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045160/1875-07-06/ed-1/seq-1/

      Note to whom the Keynote speaker is speaking to?

      Ignorace is as ignorance does. Forrest is an example far more than the “american evil…” pronounced by Beck/Barton.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 5:35pm

      Who the hell cares about Nathan Bedford Forrest. It is past news. We know he was KKK so it is very well possible he did massacre the black soldiers who tried to surrender. We will never know. This was a war, what is perceived by one is perceived differently by another. Only Nathan Bedford Forrest knows what was in his heart at the time and he is DEAD.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 6:14pm

      If nobody cares, then why the hell have David and Glenn made an issue of it?

      Forrest was NOT found guilty of these things, by any body of inquiry at the actual time! Be that the Radical Republicans of the war, William T. Sherman, or even the “council of terrorist activity” of 1871! So, of all these entities, who would have more than welcomed such demonization, could not find Forrest guilty – tell me how these idiots 150 years after can be the wiser?

      Lies are LIES! This conjecture of Beck/Barton can NOT be substantiatiated by fact – so then why do they bring it up? Slavery? Well, to take their stance negates about 2/3rds of the “Founders”, including Washington and Jefferson.

      Forrest spent his last dime on racial equality. The majority of donations for his re-interrment in Forrest park was by black organizations of the time. His actual funeral was attended by many leaders and members of black organizations, while all such was forbidden to attend Lincoln’s funeral.

      Who should be more revered? Forrest or Lincoln? At least Forrest stood for conservative constitutional principles – Lincoln certainly did not. If you even think anything Lincoln stood for was Constitutinal – PROVE IT!

      You might want to examine Lincoln’s state of the Union addresses before you reply – they certainly don’t jive with modern “Conservative” thought.

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    • ChristianHistorian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:21pm

      Interesting NY Times article after NBF’s death in 1877.

      http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0713.html

      All people can remember is his raid at Fort Pillow that later made attempts to atone for, and him as a co-founder of the KKK, but nobody talks about him trying to disband the KKK once he realized how violent the organization was in 1869.

      “His plantations had been wrecked during the war, and slave-trading was over, but Forrest resumed farming and dabbled in railroads. (Perhaps he knew enough about how to wreck them he could run them effectively.) After the war, Forrest helped found the Ku Klux Klan, but tried to disband it in 1869 after realizing the its violent nature. He died in Memphis in October 1877 reportedly of diabetes complications.”

      http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/PeopleView.cfm?PID=32

      This extraordinary general had more good than bad of which he worked hard to right.

      Regardless of which side you support, he is a part of our collective history and must be examined from all perspectives rather than condemning him for one event that he later showed his contrition for.

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    • UnreconstructedLibertarian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 10:51pm

      Forrest was not a founder of the KKK, in fact was elected in absentia as a leader. The KKK at the time was more occupied with counteracting the Union League, which was as terrorist as any group you’d want to examine. Union League activity was examined and mentioned in the 1871 Congressional hearings – reckon why you haven’t heard of them? Not unlike the reason you’ll not hear of the NBPP in the future.

      In Forrest’s Tennessee: Parson Brownlow was actively using the martial Federal Forces to exact his own version of vengence. Once Forrest realized the KKK was too far beyond its original intent – he single-handedly disbanded it. It did not exist for 30 years, until resurrected in the early 20th Century.

      Forrest was no choir boy, that’s for sure. I would sure hate to be Glenn Beck or David Barton if Forrest was alive to hear their comments. But, there is much to be admired about the man – moreso than otherwise. Should we remember Glenn Beck for being a dumbass morning shock-jock and drunkard moreso than anything accomplished since? Yeah, maybe we should.

      Andrew Ward’s book, which is the sole basis of Barton”s opinion – is not well recieved by the historians of the era – on either side of the argument (North or South). Even if you examine the book alone, somehow Beck/Barton gloss over the atrocities of the Federal garrison at Ft. Pillow leading up the attack by Forrest. Ever read the book?

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    • brother_ed
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:02am

      all I know about the man is: He is the one Mrs. Gump named her son after.

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    • Former11BRAVO
      Posted on August 4, 2012 at 12:14pm

      I was extremely disappointed when I saw that, as well (Beck & Bartons’ take on NBF). Surely given both mens’ insistence on reading period writings, they should know better than to spout such revisionist nonsense. Unreconstructedlibertarian is spot on in his analysis regarding both Ft Pillow and Forrest‘s attempts at Klan redemption AND Mr Lincoln’s disdain for constitutional rule of law. His attitudes on the power of the State and black Americans are abundantly clear – to those who seek original source materials! You might start with the “Back to Africa Movement”. A quick search for Lincoln’s abandonment of Habeous Corpus will prove valuable/enlightening too.

      Mr Beck, Mr Barton (and all other interested parties), I suggest you gentlemen expand your reading lists a bit. (I just spent an hour trying to find the book on Forrest I read only last year – to offer it up as a suggestion. Sadly, I couldn’t find it! Testament to the size of my personal library, I guess!) Americans may be a simple lot, nowadays, but they’re not stupid. They can handle the whole truth – I promise.
      F11B

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  • Fuddy_Duddy
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:14pm

    there is a way to get around that, download photon flash player browser in the app store…. but you have to fork out 5 bucks for it.

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  • Ch
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:14pm

    Do you guys know if there could be a law submitted that grandfathered all religious historical monuments, (structurally -cross and in writing-10 commandments) that they are history and may not be questioned. That the items will stand.

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    • JimL
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:21pm

      In the age of feeling– artifacts, football recors, are troublesome.

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  • Huguenot Descendant
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:12pm

    We all know that the term Liberal was stolen by the Progressives in the early 1900′s, but in my history class in college the professor I had tried posting Abraham Lincoln as a progressive even though he was a Republican. Was Lincoln more of a big government type of president or was he more of a limited government president?

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    • All Pro
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 4:17pm

      Dishonest Abe was America’s first fascist president. That makes him the for-runner of American progressives.

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    • ChristianHistorian
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 7:26pm

      Lincoln was focused on preserving the union but in his first inaugural address he supported states rights and later said if he could preserve the union with or without freeing the slaves he would do it. (Letter to Horace Greeley August 22,1863)

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  • The-Real-Enrico
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:08pm

    I wonder if David Barton would consider help produce programs,films,tv shows etc on our American history and founders?

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    • JBaer
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:34pm

      I would absolutely be all for that! I’ve learned a lot from listening to David Barton. Bless you brother!

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  • hereandnow
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:58pm

    Constitutional Education 101

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  • JimL
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:56pm

    Is it time to reread, ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS X ON THE DOCTRINES OF THE MODERNISTS?

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  • americanfirst
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:41pm

    How can a citizen remove an Constitutionally unqualified man currently usurping the power of the office of the Presidency of the United States? How can a citizen remove and hold liable those elected representatives vested with the responsibility of protecting and defending the Constitution that did not effectively stop the advancement of an unqualified Presidential candidate or a knowingly unqualified man/non-American citizen acting as President of the United States?

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    • gentilezionist
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:41pm

      impeacment, but are likely see him called god as abc did. all we can do is vote right and hope we are not outvoted by dead people or those who vote in multiple places. of course this is all assuming he doesn’t declare martial law and cancel the vote. problems you face in dealing with pure evil

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on August 3, 2012 at 2:37pm

    Darn iPads don’t support Flash Player.

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    • ERP
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:08pm

      LOL, Android all the way!

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    • Fuddy_Duddy
      Posted on August 3, 2012 at 3:17pm

      there is a way to get around that, download photon flash player browser in the app store…. but you have to fork out 5 bucks for it.

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