Local Boy Scouts Troop In Trouble for Using Patch Depicting ‘Fleeing Immigrants’
- Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:45am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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A local Boy Scouts troop in Milwaukee, WI is under fire for an “unauthorized” patch it’s been using depicting fleeing immigrants.
Troop 11 has been using the patch for the last 10 years as a symbol of one of its patrols (each troop is divided into patrols). The name selected for the troop? The Border Patrol.
Photo via LatinoRebels.com (© LatinoRebels.com)
But while that may strike some as odd, especially for a troop that includes Latinos, one of the scout’s leaders explained that it was actually former troops who came up with it.
“The patch is used to symbolize that a scout is part of the ‘border’ patrol,” Assistant Scoutmaster Bradley Schultz told the blog Latino Rebels, which has dubbed the patch “racist” and has been leading the charge against it. “The image was chosen by the patrol as a whole, but a scout of Mexican decent, who was visiting family in Texas when he saw the iconic signs, is the who originally thought of the idea to use the image. We knew we wanted to be named Border, but we wanted an image to go with it.”
The blog has also posted an alleged email from Ryan Antczak, another assistant scoutmaster for Troop 11, explaining that the troop is made up largely of minorities who do not want to be associated with illegal immigration:
This had nothing to do with US BORDER PATROL. This was the name of the patrol the boys picked out that they wanted. The majority of the troop &the patrol are Mexican. They wanted this because they didnt wanna be associated with those that come to our country illegally. This has been part of our troop for almost 10 years. We are located in a very diverse area were the majority of Latin decent. No one has been offended till this day. We are not embarrassed by a branch of our government that serve this country proudly who put their lives on the line. [Errors are original]
The Boy Scouts’ National Council has weighed in and told the Huffington Post, “Neither the United States Border Patrol or the Boy Scouts of America were involved in the naming of the patrol, or the production or distribution of the patch.”
It’s also apparently told the troop there must be a change.
“We have been told by our council that if we don’t change the NAME of the patrol the troop will be disbanded as a whole,” Schultz told HuffPo.
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Comments (91)
Sayre
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:50amGod forbid the Boy Scouts object to the breaking American law. (or is it Allah… errrrr Obama forbid, oh well…)
Get real. At the nominating convention for AlGore in 2000… the Dem’s invited the Boy Scouts to the convention only to use them, and to boo at them, while on stage. This, to press their homosexual agenda. The simple understanding of the Lefts hatred of the Boy Scouts is found in the Boy Scout pledge… you know, the “… for God and Country” thing. I remember at the time, Rush compared the Boy Scouts, to “canaries in the coal mine” .. Back before they had explosive and poison gas meters, they would put canaries in the coal mines. If the atmosphere became so poisoned that the canaries stopped singing, it indicated a serious problem. The coal mine is America, and when the atmosphere becomes so poisoned that they boo the Boy Scouts. Well, when innocent children whose highest honor is to God and country, find themselves being used by evil, because of their refusal, to bow to evil. Something is bad wrong in America. For the Scouts to have this patch, is not racist… It seems strange, but it only seems that way. Honor is still alive in America, and can be found, at the local Boy Scout troop.
Report Post »judymac10
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 12:51pmOh you forgot obama didn’t honor the 100 year anniversary of Boy Scouts
Report Post »because they don‘t allow ****’s to camp out and teach the boys new tricks.
Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:20pmI’d tell the Council to take it up with the national organization (BSA). The BSA doesn’t authorize those patches, nor is their approval required. These boys are clearly taking an interest in current events and politics, and their views support their country. Those are key elements of the program.
The Scout Master should go over the head of the Council President. I’d give him 60/40 at having BSA side with him.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:21pmRight on, Judy. We were at the ScoutQuest 100 celebration in Forest Park. Of course, we’re just outside St. Louis, so it wasn’t a long trip or anything. Still, it’s a great organization and teaches self-sufficiency and leadership.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:27pmThe Boy Scouts’ National Council has weighed in and told the Huffington Post, “Neither the United States Border Patrol or the Boy Scouts of America were involved in the naming of the patrol, or the production or distribution of the patch.”
It’s also apparently told the troop there must be a change.
“We have been told by our council that if we don’t change the NAME of the patrol the troop will be disbanded as a whole,” Schultz told HuffPo.
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It’s not clear whether it was the National Council or the local Council that told them to remove the patch. The official statement by the National Council is typical – “We neither support nor….”
From Shultz’s wording, “…told by our council…”, I’d bet it was the local Council demanding they remove the patch. Local Councils are twitchy and can be cowardly. National takes their job really seriously.
Report Post »OhioRifleman
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:21pmWhat I want to know is, where can I get a copy of the patch? Popcorn is one thing (and on my list of upcoming investments), but that patch is kickass! I’d like to add it to my wall display of kickass patches from the world over!
Report Post »FrankD
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:28pm@Jaycen – not necessary. Neither BSA national nor the local council have anything to say about a patrol patch. Every troop is OWNED by a Charter Organization and they are the ones who say what patrol names/patches can be used. They should tell them to shove off.
Report Post »mjazzguitar
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 11:51amObama couldn’t make the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts because he had to be on tv.
Report Post »PCDoctors4u2
Posted on April 8, 2012 at 1:26pmIn Southern California most of the Local, third generation, Latino Americans, with USA citizenship have voiced their disapproval of our countries lack of immigration law enforcement by producing and wearing T-Shirts with the affectionate term “Frijolero” (Beaner) it is similar to the term, that “N” word that can only be used by members of that community. I do not advise any non Latino to banty about this term “Frijolero” but it sure is interesting and humorous to see these T-Shirts at the local super market!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:40am.
Buy more BSA “Pop Corn”…..
It’s a good thing their Boy Scouts, they’ll have on clean drawers when Holder has them detained for a Hate Crime……..
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:27amJust ordered some more popcorn. The Boy Scouts are a private organization. Let them do what they want.
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:24pmYes, please purchase the popcorn. Even if you don’t care for popcorn, you can purchase a tax-deductable gift that will be shipped to a soldier. The company the BSA is using currently gives 72% of each sale back to the BSA, and a large chunk of that comes back to that scout’s local council. I think it ends up being 30% of the total that comes back to the local council. Those are really good numbers.
This year, the company switched from metal containers to plastic containers so you’d get more popcorn for the same price. They really are a good company that keeps the consumer in mind.
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:31amThe irony is, this image is taken directly from a sign off the freeway by San Diego. I lived there for most of my life and drove past the sign all the time. I had, at one time, been tempted to steal the sign because it was so funny to me.
Yes, that image is a REAL sign found off the freeway by San Diego warning people to watch out for, basically, illegal immigrants running across the freeway.
Report Post »thekuligs
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:27amThey have them in Arizona as well.
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:28amI thought it meant speed up..
Report Post »Black Tiger
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:02pmYup! Plenty of signs on SR 289 outside of Nogales and SR 80 out of Douglas.
Report Post »AZRACISTBIGOT
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 5:32pmIt’s a real sign alongside a real freeway depicting a real situation. It probably saves lives.
Report Post »I don’t understand what is hatefull about it
wordweaver
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:31amI’m a lifelong scout leader, and this is a no-brainer. It was insensitive and poor judgment to allow this patrol name and patch to ever be created. Scouts are routinely allowed to come up with names for their patrols, and it is a boy-led organization, but this is a good example of why BSA has adult leadership watching everything and guiding the boys. Had I been a leader in this troop, my message to the boys would have been that there is a very good chance that some folks would be offended by their name, and that they should move on and come up with something else.
Report Post »Tom K
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:40am@ WORDWEAVER : Great tag name since you can certainly ‘ weave ” something into your words. I strongly detect a large dose of political correctness in your posting. The patch was chosen by this patrol in the “ boy led ” Boy Scouts of America. The patch reflects a real sign on the U.S. – Mexico border. The only ones that would be offended by the patch OR the sign would be law breakers entering our Country illegally and a few namby-pamby politically corrected wussified liberals ! I sopport the B.S.A. with my time and money; my grandson is a Scout; BUT I carefully follow news about the B.S.A. to make sure the Scouts and their leaders are true to their motto and Scout Laws.
Report Post »mdeputy7
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:57amWhy does everybody feel they have to worry about “offending” someone else? Nobody is ever going to be able to make everybody happy. Nobody. Stop Trying! The only people that should be offended by this are illegal immigrants…..WHO SHOULDN’T BE HERE ANYWAY!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:39pm@Tom K
There are a number of BSA leaders who are wishy-washy and rather Progressive in their world-view. It’s been seeping into the organization for years. I think it’s because the whole country has been sliding that way for so long.
I disagree with Wordweaver, but his approach is valid. He didn‘t say he’d force them to change it, just that he’d bring up the point. He’s right that some people would be offended, but offending people and being strong enough in your beliefs that you can stand to the criticism is also an important life-lesson.
The boys are now living that lesson in real-time. I hope they come out on the other side stronger for the experience.
Report Post »sbmmomma
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:06pmpolitical correctness would also mean that the boys could no longer honor god, country or family. It would mean that they were homophobs and anti-Allah and jesusfreaks. Stick to the Boy scout law and leave the boys alone for loving their country. If our leaders did, this nation would be better off. On my Honor I will try to do my best for God and my country….
Report Post »rickbob
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 4:52pm“Life long leader”?? Then you must have missed the part where the troop is a boy led organization. This patrol has not violated ANY bylaws of the national BSA, or, apparently, of the chartering organization. Note that this patch was created TEN YEARS ago and copied a sign on the Mexican border and is still approved by the largely Latino troop. Get the sign(s) taken down, then maybe some one will have an issue. GAL!
Report Post »FrankD
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 6:26pmNonsense. Neither BSA national nor the local council have anything to say about what a troop names its patrols. Each troop and pack is OWNED by the Charter Organization and it is they that set said policy. As long as the CO approves of the patrol patch they are good to go.
Report Post »snufy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:41pmWell, Wordy, my man, I have two words for that. Screw sensativity. That’s what is wrong with this country. Everyone is sensative. So what? This isn’t a feel good, lolly pop and ice cream world. All this sensativity balogny is causing our relationship with The Living God to fracture to the point of self destruction. He will only put up with so much, and society has stepped over the line. He has given us warnings to turn back to Him, and they’re being ignored. If we are to continue under His blessings, we must become militant about following His ways. That means to repent and follow Him, or He will destroy this nation, as is already happening. Society is listening to the Great Deceiver, Satan. Read His Word.
Report Post »Don39
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 3:27amI say keep the Troop, find a new sponsor! The BSA gets more like the feminazi controlled GSA everyday!
Report Post »mjazzguitar
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 11:56amI personally have a lot of respect for the Border Patrol and the job they do for The United States of America. I don’t know why a Scout leader should feel otherwise.
Report Post »wordweaver
Posted on April 7, 2012 at 7:50pmBSA scouts wear a small circular purple patch above their left breast pocket. It is the International Scouting patch, and reminds them that Scouting is an international organization. As such, it is open to boys of all races and creeds around the globe. Even Mexico. I am not one who is prone toward political correctness, but this patrol patch patterned after a road sign warning people of border patrol agents rounding up illegals to me seems inconsistent with the aims of the program and the brotherhood of scouting. The fact that they have been wearing it for ten years without any blowback is surprising to me.
Report Post »reboard
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:30amTime and again it has been re-affirmed, BSA’s First Amendment right to the freedom to associate with other like-minded people. Now if you are not one of them get the hell out, and form your own group.
Report Post »MBA
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:16amThe problem with this country is the liberals won’t let anyone tell the true without punishment. Sounds like n a z i Germany to me.
Report Post »G-WHIZ
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:06amIn some countries…they stans at the border with guns…they shoot all illegals…they don’t give them “special services” they just invest them with cold-steal, lead and brass.
Report Post »NOT A CRAZY
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:59amWhere can I get one. USA, USA, USA!!!! Call me a racist all you want, you racist bastards. The facts are that “latinos” or hispanics or whatever PC name they want to name themselves fall into different categories. Most AMERICANS who are here legally don’t want the illegals coming here and stealing our jobs, money, education, health care, welfare and everything else. Get a clue.
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:50amAgreed!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:00pmThey went to a company that makes custom patches. All BSA units do this. Most patches aren’t “official”, they local.
Report Post »Cavallo
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:59amBSA, Caving in to PC. Sad. All it takes is one crack in the wall and the dam will burst and the BSA will mean nothing.
Report Post »sbmmomma
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 2:07pmLike the Girl Scouts
Report Post »searching for the Truth
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:52amActually, it’s a family of three “ rushing ” across the hwy. to get to a store in Brownsville, Texas – the store is having a sale , it’s getting dark, and they are avoiding heavy traffic.
Report Post »Mapache
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:52amHow about the “Fast And Furious Patrol”, “Gun-Runners Troop”, TISH (The illegals stop here) . I am sure the libs can’t have a problem with those names.
Report Post »scrapadapolis
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:52amOk they have been using the patch nearly ten years so why the PC crap now?I putting a white guy beating a slave put on my vest to show support for captive man of the USA through government.
Report Post »teddyc73
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:48amThe racist claim has gone to new heights of absurdity. Pretty soon, if I have a chocolate ice cream cone I’ll be labeled racist.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:22amAmen to that
Report Post »Inlandmar2
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 1:42pmHeaven fobid you should eat fried chicken, collard greens or watermelon.
Report Post »bigfatslob
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:45amCome on, the Boy Scouts shouldn’t cave to the lib PC press ! My sons’ patrols are autonomous in naming as well as creating their own Patrol Patches. This Patrol has a sense of humor about an absolutely OUT OF CONTROL situation in the U.S. enabled by a worthless President and Uncle Janet.
Report Post »GO S BOY SCOUTS !
IndyGuy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:42amTell the Boy Scouts to stuff it and start your own group with an American Patriot theme…Rock on kids…
Report Post »JamesA
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:28amI like it.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:47amLet’s be clear there is only one way to cure the majority of the illegal immigrant problem. That is fine all the businesses that hire them $250,000 per illegal employee. While I appreciate focusing on the poor illegal who comes here looking for work, their desire is not the root of the problem. It is the businesses that hire them off the books for lower than market wages. The business owner is guilty of hiring them, in most cases knowingly, avoiding payroll taxes and probably a host of other labor laws. Time to go after the owners of landscaping, maintenance, construction, cleaning, etc. companies. The blaze could actually do something useful by highlighting the companies and individuals who employee larger numbers.
Report Post »bobora
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:19amCertain parts of the road have signs letting people know to be careful because there’s deer crossing or donkey crossing. This part of the road there just happens to be illegals crossing so drive with caution.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:59amWe have those deer crossing signs all over around here. Of course there are a few deer whining about it.
1) They believe their civil rights have been violated because cars aren’t obligated by law to stop or even slow down when deer make a last second decision to leap out of the shoulder ditch.
2) They believe they are being unfairly depicted as a group because not all deer have the suicidal desire to become bumper-burger
3) They believe they are racially targeted & discriminated against because there are many other critters that run across the road. And they are demanding that an equal number of warning signs depicting skunks, ‘possums, raccoons, cats, dogs, coyotes, foxes etc be put up.
4) They want the signs changed to show only SOME deer etc are illegal roadcrossers.
5) They are also offended by people wearing clothing with logos such as Mossy Oak, Realtree, North American Hunt Club and Venison – It‘s What’s for Dinner.
6) They say that unless their demands are met they willl bring summer vacation & fall harvest travel to a halt by blocking roads with massive protests, demonstrations and illegal encampments. Note: encampment kitchens will not give out food to homeless cats
I‘m betting they’re not all that commited to their cause and the protests will die out when hunting season opens.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:13amWhy “assume” that all illegal immigrants are Latinos, hmmmm?
Most illegal immigrants are muslimes. Hasn’t anyone noticed that? Check out the wh.
What we need now (not really) is a patch that has the same message but with the folks with sheets and burks….. That was tacky, but true. While I’m on it, we could have a patch with arrogant people dressed in expensive suits and dresses (members of congress, anyone?) and call it the “traitorous patrol”. I mean we could go on and on. It’s not Latinos. It’s not Blacks. It’s not Whites. It’s illegals and traitors of all colors, races and creeds.
Go, Boy Scouts!!!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:54amI couldn’t have said it better Kick! Go Boy Scouts! USA!
Report Post »Joisey
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:12amToo bad for the critics that there are S. Ct. decisions that uphold the Scouts as a private organization with rights of free speech, and free association. Now sit down and shut up.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:16ambecause some people hate the scouts, they hate what they stand for, they will find anything they can to make them look ba or try and tear them down without a thought or care to the children they are harming
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:11amThey are a troop on the Northern border. Would those depicted be fleeing Canadians?
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:22amThat’s what I thought. Must be Canadians escaping from their socialist country. Maybe they should add a maple leaf so the message is clear.
Report Post »DBCrader
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:05amIf I’m not mistaken, isn’t there actually federally-approved highway signs down near the border that look pretty much like those badges???
Report Post »Trance
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:29amYes, that picture is the exact same one you will see on signs on the freeway near San Diego. It’s basically telling drivers to watch out for illegal aliens crossing the freeway.
Report Post »Darla_K
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:03amDon’t like our boy scout patches? Take a hike.
Report Post »Inlandmar2
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:00amPC mind control strikes again. I guess the highway department will have to take the signs down, too. How much longer are we going to tolerate this PC crap?
Report Post »calonzap
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:29amThis PC crap will be with us until there is someone in authority with the backbone to STOP it. Right now, the outlook for having someone in authority like that isn’t good. The pendulum will swing back one day.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:54am“may strike some as odd, especially for a troop that includes Latinos” Why? Are we to assume that all American Latinos support illegal activity? I find that attitude offensive.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 9:48amThe troop should just tell any complainers that it is a Taco Bell themed patch, and they are “making a run to the border!”
Report Post »Funny though, and kids will be kids, even Boy Scouts. My son made Eagle many years ago, and they had a sense of humor too.
reboard
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:36amThat patch has no reference to Latino’s. It is you making that assumption. Now, when is the attitude of protecting our great county with a border patrol racist or wrong?
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 8:48amHahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Report Post »hatchetjob
Posted on April 6, 2012 at 11:57amI love that patch. One day they may be worth millions too. People need to get a life.
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